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Charlie Manuel, Larry Bowa & Tom McCarthy join The Phillies Show LIVE from Ocean City! · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: The Philly Show Live at Manco and Mango and Ocean City.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Manuel Larry Boa, We're excited to have him, Larry.
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  Speaker 1: Larry Jim asked Charlie earlier about Trey Turner at the plate.
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  Speaker 2: You know, defensively, he's had some struggles this year.
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  Speaker 1: You played the position as well as anybody in baseball history.
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  Speaker 3: Really, what do you think is kind of going on?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think he can do it in the
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  Speaker 1: second half to be a little bit more of that
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  Speaker 1: lockdown shortstop that you gotta have.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think I've seen him make great
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  Speaker 4: plays this year, but I've also seen him I think
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  Speaker 4: a lot of it comes to concentration and he's really
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  Speaker 4: upset with his offensive where he is right now because
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  Speaker 4: this guy's hit three hundred almost every year. And I
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  Speaker 4: think sometimes I he's never said this to me, but
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  Speaker 4: this is just me. I think sometimes he might take
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  Speaker 4: a lasted bat out there, or maybe Babe bases loaded
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  Speaker 4: and pop up a pitch that he thought in the
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  Speaker 4: next pitch next time up ground ball. Mentally, he's got
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  Speaker 4: the skills and the guy works. I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: hear people say he doesn't work. He takes his ground
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  Speaker 4: balls every single day. Last year, I thought he did
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  Speaker 4: tremendous at short stock and this year so far, he's
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  Speaker 4: taking a step back. But I expect him to get hot.
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  Speaker 4: You know, people always getting on his defense. But I
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  Speaker 4: asked a couple of people yesterday, how many games do
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  Speaker 4: you think and I'll ask you guys, you guys watched
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  Speaker 4: all the game, how many games do you think we've
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  Speaker 4: lost because of his defense?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question. That's a good question.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he's put some he's put some heat on
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  Speaker 5: the on the starting pitchers and their pitch counts, right.
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  Speaker 5: I agree that, in particular with Chris Sanchez a few times.
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  Speaker 5: But as far as losing actually losing, maybe just a.
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  Speaker 4: Couple that's that's that's the point I try to make.
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  Speaker 4: But you're right about the pitch count. But when they say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: he's lost a ton of he hasn't lost a ton
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  Speaker 4: of games. And he's gonna get hot offensively, and I
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  Speaker 4: think they go hand in hand once he's swinging the
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  Speaker 4: bat the way we know he's capable of. Last night,
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  Speaker 4: he got a home run late in the game. Hopefully
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  Speaker 4: it'll carry over Tomorrow we have a day game against
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  Speaker 4: the Mets. But once this guy gets rolling, not only
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  Speaker 4: is he gonna it's gonna solid it by his defense,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna make our lineup much better too. When he
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  Speaker 4: gets on, all kinds of stuff happens. And you know
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times when he's not hitting Schwarb and
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  Speaker 4: Harper coming up with nobody on there, but he's he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna hit. This guy can hit, and I think he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna have a good what we call second half. There's
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  Speaker 4: about what seventy games left. I think he's gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I want to go.
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  Speaker 5: Down memory laying a little bit here, Charlie, and I
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  Speaker 5: want to talk to you about the uh your tenure
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  Speaker 5: as a manager here, I mean, obviously had an amazing run.
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  Speaker 5: What was your shit other than obviously winning the World
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  Speaker 5: Series in two thousand and eighties, what was like your
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  Speaker 5: favorite thing to do while you were managing? Because you've done.
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  Speaker 2: Everything, a lot of things in the game.
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  Speaker 5: You've been in Japan, you played in the major leagues,
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  Speaker 5: You've done a whole bunch of stuff. But as far
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  Speaker 5: as what was your for some of your favorite moments
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  Speaker 5: over the last you know, over over.
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  Speaker 3: Your career, during the course of your career.
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  Speaker 6: I think, uh, first of all, I love the game.
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  Speaker 6: I love the gamut the game ever since I was
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  Speaker 6: a little bullet, and I've been very fortunately lucky to
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  Speaker 6: be able to stay around any game one time. And
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  Speaker 6: uh I I the peacher, and I love to communicate
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  Speaker 6: with the players. WILL like to most normal and I
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  Speaker 6: like to like. But at the same time, I want
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  Speaker 6: to be streaked enough we can be this one enough
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  Speaker 6: to handle the game and being more be I like
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  Speaker 6: specialist professionally.
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  Speaker 3: I like this.
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  Speaker 6: I think if if you a good this one person,
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  Speaker 6: then you when you have a discipline was at the
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  Speaker 6: play there in the field, when you play play on
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  Speaker 6: the game. I think if you don't have no discipline,
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  Speaker 6: that you're gonna have a hard time. I think that
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  Speaker 6: when you go go up to plate the hit, I
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  Speaker 6: think it's you be negative, not positive and things in
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  Speaker 6: the run run doing your mind like well you you
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  Speaker 6: know you hit yep and things, but you gotta be
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  Speaker 6: totally relaxed thinking what she's want to do. And actually, uh,
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  Speaker 6: I think if you really get down on that, when
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  Speaker 6: you really concentrated, who's pitching don't really matter.
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  Speaker 5: I totally agrees. So I'm just gonna say this, I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna throw this commercial with that. I spent a lot
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  Speaker 5: of time with Charlie. Charlie was my hitting coach when
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  Speaker 5: I was playing for the Cleveland Indians at the time.
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  Speaker 5: I will tell you that Charlie Manuel was the hardest
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  Speaker 5: working the hitting coach I'd ever seen. He not only
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  Speaker 5: worked with me he was a terrible hitter, but he
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  Speaker 5: worked with guys like Manny Fears and albut Bell.
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  Speaker 2: And uh Jim told me and made them right rate hitters,
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  Speaker 2: and in a lot of cases he helped make them
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  Speaker 2: Hall of famers.
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  Speaker 5: So I appreciate everything that you've done in the gage, Charlie,
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  Speaker 5: and what you did for me and those players as well.
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  Speaker 2: And Ruben and Charlie go way back. Ruben, I think
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  Speaker 2: I quinn.
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  Speaker 6: I think I.
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  Speaker 2: Wool for guy.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody who play baseball. You know me, when I see
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  Speaker 6: supposed to guy, I'll say something. Micro pitcher mad.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, I used to be in the minor leagues, but
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  Speaker 7: I played in the minor leagues, said Charlie was the
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  Speaker 7: manager for a team in Colorado, trans who's a Triple
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  Speaker 7: A affiliate for the Cleveland Energy and Idiots, And when
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  Speaker 7: other guys on other teams on our team would hit
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  Speaker 7: home runs.
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  Speaker 3: He would stand up and cheer for.
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  Speaker 2: This starting pitcher's hating me problem. Charlie used to have
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  Speaker 2: an expression, uh coach killing by you work with a
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  Speaker 2: guy and he never gets any better. He's a coach killer.
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  Speaker 3: That's what are you referring to?
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  Speaker 4: Jimmy?
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  Speaker 3: Who are you referring to?
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  Speaker 6: Ruben Well? The man in Cleveland and somebody asked him
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  Speaker 6: want a player? And Uh yeah, I didn't fall was
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  Speaker 6: down on my marred or didn't like him, but I
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  Speaker 6: do well.
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  Speaker 3: He worked hard.
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  Speaker 2: Personality, So let me ask you both know Ruben in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different ways.
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  Speaker 8: But Larry, when you managed the ball, ball called the
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  Speaker 8: assistant cham when you managed ball Cub Charlie, he's the GM.
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  Speaker 8: What is the interaction like between the manager and the
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  Speaker 8: GM in the front office at this time of year
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  Speaker 8: when you have a good team that has flaws or
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  Speaker 8: holes and the trade deadline is approaching.
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  Speaker 2: Are you in there every day saying give me this,
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  Speaker 2: give me this?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: I had when I managed I had Eddie Eddie Way.
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  Speaker 4: I thought he did a great job. He was great
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  Speaker 4: with me. He would come down and we talked before
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  Speaker 4: every game. It wouldn't be a long chalk maybe five minutes.
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  Speaker 4: And then if we're on the road. He didn't go
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  Speaker 4: on every road trip. He would call and check in.
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  Speaker 4: But as far as what you need and everything, it
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  Speaker 4: has a lot to do with the money. Like when
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  Speaker 4: I had that team, they didn't have the payroll wasn't
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  Speaker 4: that big, and we were close in the three or
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  Speaker 4: four years. We needed a little jolt and we really
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  Speaker 4: didn't get it. One thing about John and the new owners,
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  Speaker 4: they have that that money and they know that this
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  Speaker 4: window here, I'm not saying it's closing, but it's it's
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  Speaker 4: starting to go the other way.
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  Speaker 3: And we got it.
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  Speaker 4: We got a good lineup, we got good starting pitching,
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  Speaker 4: and we got to fill in these voids here going
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  Speaker 4: down the stretch. There's no question about that. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think you don't have to ask the manager what
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  Speaker 4: they need. I think they're very knowledgeable up there. They
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  Speaker 4: know they know exactly what the Phillies need. Eddie knew
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  Speaker 4: what the Phillies needed, and he was honest with me.
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  Speaker 4: He says, we just we can't spend the money. Which hey,
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  Speaker 4: as long as he was honest, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: You can do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Larry Charlie, thanks so much for coming on the show.
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  Speaker 2: We really appreciate a lot of fun. Legend.
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  Speaker 1: Eli's Legend, Charlie, Manuel, Larry Bow, thanks so much, guys.
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  Speaker 2: We got Tom McCarthy, Hey, Tom McCarthy.
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  Speaker 3: Coming on the Police Show My Pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about that. You're not a good listener.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm gonna me your boss you Yeah. It is
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  Speaker 3: in a pizza place at Maco Manco's with Jim Salisbury
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  Speaker 3: Sandsbury TMC. Did you enjoy the All Star We I did.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was awesome. I thought everything I loved,
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  Speaker 3: how good, how great the city looked. I really did.
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  Speaker 3: I loved everything about that. I thought the stadium looked great.
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  Speaker 3: Read I read somewhere that it's aged beautifully, and it
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  Speaker 3: has aged beautifully. I thought Tyler Kettner's story about David
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  Speaker 3: Montgomery was right on. I thought that was awesome. I
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  Speaker 3: love that Fox acknowledged David as much as they did,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's a credit to the commissioner and
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  Speaker 3: to Chuck Torres. You know, kind of you know, laid
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  Speaker 3: that groundwork. So I think all everything that we always
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  Speaker 3: thought was great about the city and about the stadium,
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  Speaker 3: I think was was on display.
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  Speaker 2: John count the Stellar Games.
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  Speaker 5: Are there any particular call for Chig made and her
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  Speaker 5: career that stand out more than the moments?
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  Speaker 2: You see so many different moments?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the mccallis, like, maybe top four or five
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  Speaker 5: moments that you've had to call your career.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Halliday's Perfect Game is number one, because that was
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  Speaker 3: that was such an adrenaline rush to do that, And
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  Speaker 3: it sounds strange to say it, but when he did it,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't really have access to all the information that
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  Speaker 3: we have now from a computer standpoint, so everything was
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  Speaker 3: sort of filtered through Chris Wheeler's mind in all honesty
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  Speaker 3: as far as the history of the game goes. So
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  Speaker 3: we were kind of just going from there. But that,
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  Speaker 3: to me, that was one of the greatest opportunities as
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  Speaker 3: a broadcaster to do. And then the other game, even
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  Speaker 3: though I wasn't on the call, I was on the
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  Speaker 3: call was two thousand and eight when the Phillies clinched
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  Speaker 3: the divisional crown. I was doing the game on Fox,
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  Speaker 3: but they sent me down to the clubhouse to do
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  Speaker 3: the interviews. So then Timmy did play by play McCarver
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  Speaker 3: of the last out. Now, I would have loved to
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  Speaker 3: have called the double play between Rollins and Utley and Howard,
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  Speaker 3: but it was mcarver that did it. But the moment
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  Speaker 3: was truly unbelievable to be part of. It, really was
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  Speaker 3: truly unbelievable to be Farder. And then you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: so many of them that in reality I probably have
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  Speaker 3: forgotten more than I can remember. But the Harper Grand
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  Speaker 3: Slam against the Cubs when the Phillies were just awful,
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  Speaker 3: it was pretty cool because it was it was uh,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was a game winning ground sledge, and
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  Speaker 3: to watch him run around the bases was pretty neaty
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  Speaker 3: on air.
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  Speaker 5: When Derrett phill made an amazing catch in New York,
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  Speaker 5: tell me about that catch.
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  Speaker 3: That he made in the first inning, Well, that was
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  Speaker 3: that is one of those where you always, like every game,
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  Speaker 3: you have to realize that something special can happen, and
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  Speaker 3: it can happen in the first inning. You know, to
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  Speaker 3: see him do that and you can see it sort
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  Speaker 3: of unfolding. It was kind of like his catch the
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  Speaker 3: other day in Detroit where he made the diving play
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  Speaker 3: in the gap in left center feet So to me,
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  Speaker 3: that was a great I thought it was a great
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  Speaker 3: education for any broadcaster to be ready at all times
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  Speaker 3: because it was so early in the game. But to
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  Speaker 3: watch it unfold, it was pretty neat.
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  Speaker 2: It was pretty neat, right stump in a press box
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  Speaker 2: and watching him close in on that ball and he's
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  Speaker 2: probably like fifty feet away, and I'm saying to myself,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going to get that ball.
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  Speaker 3: The way his stride was and everything. I agree with
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  Speaker 3: you on that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, second half just started on Thursday night.
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  Speaker 8: Tom.
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  Speaker 1: What has you, I guess, excited or optimistic about the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies going to these final sixty plus games or so,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the number is.
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  Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is the big three at
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  Speaker 3: the top of the rotation, honestly, because I think that
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  Speaker 3: they are doing something collectively that we haven't seen probably
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  Speaker 3: since Halliday Lee Hammills. That group there, and it may
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  Speaker 3: even exceed that. You know, the the er for Zach
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  Speaker 3: Wheeler before the All Star break is second in Phillies
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  Speaker 3: franchise history, and I think that he has knocked on
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  Speaker 3: the cy Young door and it could be a special
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  Speaker 3: second half for him individually.
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  Speaker 1: I was joking the other day, you know, because Zach
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  Speaker 1: obviously took it personally when a couple of weeks ago
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  Speaker 1: and Don took him out of the game, went out
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  Speaker 1: away from the wind, and now I was getting the
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  Speaker 1: All Star snub. I said, JT's just got to tell
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  Speaker 1: him in the bullpen before every game you realize you're
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  Speaker 1: not an All Star, right, realize they're not good. Get
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  Speaker 1: him nice and angry, get him lathered up, get him angry,
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  Speaker 1: and have him go out mad.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe he's one of the truly great stories
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  Speaker 3: in Philly's history. The ascension of Zach Willard coming here.
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  Speaker 8: It changed his whole career. He's just taking it to
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  Speaker 8: a whole different Do you notice the difference in him dishes?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So I have always felt, who's one of the better
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  Speaker 3: people I've met in this game. He is a He's
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  Speaker 3: an everyman person. They'll have a conversation about Chick fil A,
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  Speaker 3: he'll have a conversation about Mike and Ike's, and he'll
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  Speaker 3: have a deep conversation about baseball, do you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean? And you can speak to him kind of
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  Speaker 3: like you could speak to Greg Maddox the day of
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  Speaker 3: the game. It's no big deal, like he's out in
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  Speaker 3: the dugout the whole time. But I have noticed an
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  Speaker 3: even better appreciation of everything around the game this year,
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  Speaker 3: and I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's enlightening for a lot of people, No doubt,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's I think that's exactly. I think he
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  Speaker 3: thought his career was over and he would not be
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  Speaker 3: able to come from behind straight.
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  Speaker 8: Him on in Cincinnati the other night after the game, right, yes,
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  Speaker 8: And that was a great interview with him.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know if they would do
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  Speaker 2: this four years ago.
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  Speaker 3: He will. He would normally do it if he completed
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  Speaker 3: the game, but he would not normally do it if
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  Speaker 3: it was seven innings. He would come back out, And
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  Speaker 3: I know that, and I'm okay with that. I'm okay
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  Speaker 3: with that.
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  Speaker 2: So were you were you stunned them when he came back?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, No, I knew that he had
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  Speaker 3: Oh he had something to.
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  Speaker 2: Say, that's right. That was after the All Star snubbs.
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  Speaker 3: I knew that there was something on his mind.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't, but I did discuss it with somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: Were you wondering what how exactly far he would go,
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  Speaker 1: and Buddy, he would say.
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  Speaker 3: He actually knew that he would keep it within you know,
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  Speaker 3: within a within reason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I agree with you, Tom. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's a lot of fun to talk to. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there was a couple a couple of years ago before
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  Speaker 1: I think the NLDS against the Braves. I'm in the
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  Speaker 1: dugout and he comes down and he just starts talking
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  Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, oh God, I hope no one
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  Speaker 1: sees this is bad because they're gonna blame me for
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  Speaker 1: talking to the starting pitcher. But obviously he went out
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  Speaker 1: and pitched well.
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  Speaker 2: But he he is that type of guy. He's not
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  Speaker 2: don't look at me, don't talk to me before I pitch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I've had a few fast food conversations with him over
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the years.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: And you need to have exact change if you want
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: to buy snacks from his locker.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Question to Tom, because he have relationships and you built relationships.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: With a lot of people in the game. With a
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: lot of players in the game, there are there a
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: couple of players.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Are a player that would steel like you have like
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: a really cool connection with that people would not know well.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I think he's one of them. Honestly, Zach, I really do.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: It's funny the last couple of weeks I've run into
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: people from my days in Trenton, Okay, you know, and
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I ran into you'll remember this one, Clyde pork Chop
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Hugh the other day. He's Tom Gordon's cousin, so he
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: was at the game the other day. So for me,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I try, I still try to keep in touch with
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: as many players as I possibly can, just to say, Hey,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: how's it going, or Hey, what did you think of this?
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Because I do think their perspective is really cool to
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: know those things.
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: So, Tommy, I want to ask you, because you are
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: a keen observer of this ball, give me the top
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: three reasons for the turnarofs from nine to nineteen to
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: where they are now. And you know, you know your
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: opinions on all of it, because opinions vary on this topic. Yeah,
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: what spring sprung boards this team?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I believe what strongboard this team was getting rid of
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the manager that shouldn't that they should have still they
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: should still have. Don's been great, but I think these
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: players were like, oh wait a minute, we got to
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: turn this on because in reality, this could change the
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: whole landscape of our clubhouse if we don't turn it around.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: And I think that it doesn't matter how old we are.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think it matters how accomplished
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: we are. That every once in a while we need
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: to get a right hook to the jaw. And I
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: do believe that that may have been one of the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I think we all thought this team was going to
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: play well now. I think they've exceeded expectations based on
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: nine to nineteen, but they haven't exceeded expectations based on
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: zero and zero in twenty twenty six. Yeah, I think
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: you know, just.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: That that shock to the system really got them gound.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: And you hear players say it's really not that much
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: difference with Don and Rob.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It's you know, you don't hear anybody like, well, this
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: is he's given us a kick in the butt that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: we didn't get before.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: It's they're kind of saying, that's you're kind of thing
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: that bigically bakeup wise, very similar. I think they're cut
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: from the Joe Tory cloth. I will say there's a
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: couple of things that I've noticed that are different. Don
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: does handle the bullpen differently than Rob does. Guys get
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: up and get heated and don't come into the game.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. Rob would
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: never normally do that. If you get up, you're coming
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: into the ball game. I think that's a little different.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I do think one thing that both of them are,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: and I think maybe Don is exceedingly This is their frank,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Like they will say what is on their minds, and
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: he'll do it when he discusses things with you guys too.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: He doesn't sugarcrow, he doesn't come off the top roll no, no, no.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: But he also is, like you said, he's frank.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Did you say that for Ed? Is that why he
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: says that? Yeah?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I also think.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: Another reason is what you know, you make a train
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: the worst time one of mine dies, there's time on
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: of mic hold on, hold.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: On, Jimmy, well you can go.
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: That's you. You trade away Taiwan Walker and acquired Zach Wheeler.
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: That's a pretty fifth mortal.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's a good move.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Time good.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm all discompopulated with my microphone here.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: What's the first time you've ever used the microphone?
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: It is the first one time I've used one like this.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Well, we're very we're very advanced here.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I I think my ears are a
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: bit too big for this thing. Yeah, I do you
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: know your ears keep growing as you get older and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: a little colder. You do get colder, yes, well, Tom,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: thanks so much for coming on. Thank you guys,