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- 1:19Speaker 8: Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
- 1:21Speaker 9: And I'm Wesley.
- 1:22Speaker 8: And we're coming to you live, video to recording, from
- 1:24Speaker 8: directly in front of the Kentucky Theater.
- 1:26Speaker 9: The mean streets of Lexington, Kentucky.
- 1:28Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. The marquee says, Harry.
- 1:32Speaker 8: Dean Stanton Fest. Yes. We are once again bringing you
- 1:35Speaker 8: our coverage of the Harry Dean Stanton Fest.
- 1:38Speaker 9: This is my third, well actually my third consecutively. I
- 1:42Speaker 9: did come to one a long time ago when they
- 1:44Speaker 9: showed Repo Man at the Green Lantern. That's before I
- 1:46Speaker 9: really knew Lucy or anything, so I just kind of
- 1:48Speaker 9: drove up. I was living in Elizabethtown at the time,
- 1:51Speaker 9: so it wasn't much of a drive.
- 1:52Speaker 8: I think I... Well, no, I would say I've been
- 1:55Speaker 8: here every year. I've come every year. One year I
- 1:59Speaker 8: didn't make it here. Oh, yeah.
- 2:02Speaker 1: One, this is.
- 2:03Speaker 8: I had not the best luck heading to this specific
- 2:06Speaker 8: town for some reason.
- 2:07Speaker 9: The curse.
- 2:09Speaker 8: Let's see.
- 2:10Speaker 7: One.
- 2:11Speaker 8: Maybe three years back, I headed up here for the
- 2:14Speaker 8: big closing night ceremonies and got about halfway here and
- 2:22Speaker 8: the car died.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 2:25Speaker 9: You told me about that.
- 2:26Speaker 8: When I said died, like, I don't have that car anymore. Like,
- 2:29Speaker 8: it never went back to my home.
- 2:33Speaker 7: Dang.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Actually, I was close enough to Lexington. I had it
- 2:35Speaker 1: towed here. And then I found someone to.
- 2:38Speaker 8: Like, take it off my hands and shunk it. Too
- 2:40Speaker 8: bad you couldn't get an.
- 2:41Speaker 9: Alien to put in the trunk to hover.
- 2:43Speaker 8: Yeah, if I could open the trunk and just would
- 2:46Speaker 8: have disappeared, I wouldn't have to worry about that.
- 2:47Speaker 1: But, yeah, I don't know.
- 2:49Speaker 8: I thought that was rough. And then.
- 2:54Speaker 1: I believe it was last year on the way home,
- 2:57Speaker 1: my tire went out.
- 2:59Speaker 6: Oh.
- 3:00Speaker 8: Again, about, not when I was most of the way,
- 3:02Speaker 8: so I was about 20 minutes from home, just far
- 3:06Speaker 8: enough to not be able to do anything.
- 3:09Speaker 3: Oh.
- 3:10Speaker 8: So, yeah.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I also didn't, well, the jack I had was
- 3:14Speaker 1: bent and messed up.
- 3:15Speaker 9: Oh, that sucks.
- 3:17Speaker 8: And by the time we were done here, and then
- 3:19Speaker 8: they did some sort of party out, it was like
- 3:21Speaker 8: two in the morning. It was too late to be
- 3:23Speaker 8: calling random people. The jack was bent. I was at
- 3:27Speaker 8: a gas station.
- 3:28Speaker 9: So you just started walking.
- 3:30Speaker 8: Yeah, so the fact that I keep coming here tells
- 3:33Speaker 8: you how awesome Harry Dean Stanton Festival is.
- 3:35Speaker 9: Yes, it's my favorite yearly film festival, for sure.
- 3:38Speaker 8: It's a fight sometimes to make it happen, but I'm
- 3:41Speaker 8: committed and I do what I can every year.
- 3:44Speaker 9: Bless you, sir.
- 3:46Speaker 1: You as well.
- 3:47Speaker 8: You drive further than I do.
- 3:48Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm about three hours out. I live in Owensboro, Kentucky.
- 3:51Speaker 9: where I work at the public library. And Lucy came
- 3:54Speaker 9: down for one of my film things, which I was
- 3:56Speaker 9: honored by that because, you know, she's quite the community servant.
- 4:00Speaker 9: I love what she does every year. I know she
- 4:03Speaker 9: probably gets embarrassed because every time I'm on, she's like,
- 4:04Speaker 9: oh man, Lucy Jones is like the coolest person on earth.
- 4:06Speaker 9: But it's true. She's great. And I really love what
- 4:09Speaker 9: she does.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Well, see, I think, I assume everyone knows her.
- 4:13Speaker 8: So when I meet people that like oh, I lived
- 4:16Speaker 8: in Lexington, or I moved here, or, like, whatever. If
- 4:18Speaker 8: there's any connection to the city, I'm like, oh, well,
- 4:21Speaker 8: I'm assuming you know Lucy, right?
- 4:22Speaker 9: Did I ever tell you how I know her? Like,
- 4:24Speaker 9: I just, I started listening to the movie Belt and Out,
- 4:26Speaker 9: and I was like, oh, I'm going to start adding
- 4:27Speaker 9: some of these people. They seem cool. So I added you,
- 4:28Speaker 9: I added her. That show. And, like, I can't remember.
- 4:32Speaker 9: I may have not added Marlena until afterwards. So, yeah,
- 4:35Speaker 9: definitely you and Lucy, though.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Lord knows what Marlena is going to put on her page.
- 4:39Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah. She's funny.
- 4:40Speaker 8: Odd pictures of weird puppies and road trips.
- 4:44Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 4:45Speaker 8: But Lucy, I'm sure, has a very professional, upstanding feed.
- 4:51Speaker 9: It is true.
- 4:54Speaker 1: So, it's been a while. Perhaps the last earnings that invest.
- 4:58Speaker 1: How's it been for you?
- 5:00Speaker 8: Great.
- 5:01Speaker 9: Unfortunately, this was the only day I was able to
- 5:03Speaker 9: come up for. I was able to see Cisco Pike
- 5:05Speaker 9: for the first time, which I loved. It was really good.
- 5:08Speaker 9: And man, I didn't realize Chris Christopherson was so sexy
- 5:10Speaker 9: when he was young.
- 5:11Speaker 1: He's, yeah, he's a studly young man.
- 5:13Speaker 9: Those hair flips and everything.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 5:16Speaker 9: Devil May Care Oz.
- 5:17Speaker 8: I mean, there's a reason he was a rock star
- 5:20Speaker 8: and an actor. Right, right.
- 5:22Speaker 1: He could cover both ends of Look.
- 5:24Speaker 9: How Hot I Am. Yeah, and partly fiction. I didn't
- 5:27Speaker 9: realize that came from a song. Yeah. So that's pretty cool,
- 5:29Speaker 9: the documentary title. But yeah, the reason I only came
- 5:32Speaker 9: up once this time was because I'm about to get married,
- 5:35Speaker 9: which that's new.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:37Speaker 8: Yeah, that was not going on last time I talked
- 5:39Speaker 8: to you.
- 5:39Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
- 5:40Speaker 1: This is a whole new big thing I just heard
- 5:42Speaker 1: about today.
- 5:42Speaker 9: Yeah, so our wedding, our actual wedding is going to
- 5:46Speaker 9: happen in Hawaii on a beach, and the service will
- 5:49Speaker 9: be performed by an 18-year-old girl who was ordained online.
- 5:52Speaker 9: That's her younger sister. We're all three going down there
- 5:55Speaker 9: in September. At the end of this month, though, we're
- 5:56Speaker 9: going to do like a small thing in Owensboro for
- 5:58Speaker 9: a couple people basically so yeah getting married.
- 6:02Speaker 8: I'm assuming you want attack of the killer soundtrack to
- 6:05Speaker 8: dj your your after wedding fest too.
- 6:07Speaker 1: So feel free to fly me on over there.
- 6:10Speaker 8: Well we'll send out a private jet for you for
- 6:12Speaker 8: sure yeah i will gladly play nothing but weird movie
- 6:15Speaker 8: songs for the rest of your dancing activities.
- 6:18Speaker 9: Sounds good i don't know how taylor feel about that
- 6:20Speaker 9: but maybe i can sweet talk her into it but
- 6:22Speaker 9: uh yeah so it's been great you know we've uh
- 6:25Speaker 9: we've got a long history which i won't waste time
- 6:27Speaker 9: describing on here but yeah it's great she's a wonderful
- 6:30Speaker 9: person and she puts up with me you know i'm
- 6:32Speaker 9: not only am i getting married i'm also moving into
- 6:34Speaker 9: an actual house instead of an apartment.
- 6:35Speaker 1: That's a big adjustment.
- 6:38Speaker 9: Those are two things i didn't ever think would happen
- 6:39Speaker 9: even though i am 40 so my mom bless her
- 6:42Speaker 9: soul she's incredibly morbid person like her reaction when i
- 6:45Speaker 9: told her what was happening was i always hoped you'd
- 6:48Speaker 9: find someone before i die my mom's not dying or
- 6:50Speaker 9: anything so Thanks, Mom.
- 6:52Speaker 8: She just had almost given up hope, like my parents,
- 6:55Speaker 8: so it's fine.
- 6:55Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I had two, really. It's fine. But yeah,
- 6:58Speaker 9: that's the biggest development in the past year, I guess.
- 7:02Speaker 8: I mean, I guess that's equally as impressive as a
- 7:06Speaker 8: movie you.
- 7:06Speaker 9: Watched or whatever. Well, yeah, I mean, I have been
- 7:08Speaker 9: doing plenty of that. We were just talking as we
- 7:10Speaker 9: walked over to record about the new Spider-Man movie, which
- 7:12Speaker 9: I did watch and I enjoyed immensely.
- 7:15Speaker 1: If you go.
- 7:16Speaker 8: Back an episode or two, you can hear my ramblings
- 7:19Speaker 8: about it. Again, I think I liked it more than
- 7:21Speaker 8: most of our crew on the episode, but you said
- 7:24Speaker 8: you were okay with it.
- 7:25Speaker 9: Yeah, and again, I think I like it better than
- 7:27Speaker 9: the first one. I love Mysterio as a villain, and
- 7:29Speaker 9: those dream sequences are really cool. I'm sorry, that's probably
- 7:32Speaker 9: a spoiler, isn't it? Well, that's what I was just
- 7:35Speaker 9: about to ask you. Were you duped by Mysterio? Well,
- 7:37Speaker 9: you know, I mean, I know the Spider-Man comics. I
- 7:39Speaker 9: know his backstory, which is, you know, they really improved
- 7:42Speaker 9: that for the movie, but at first, like, man, I
- 7:44Speaker 9: really like the interplay between him and Peter. I think
- 7:46Speaker 9: this is cool, and I almost wish he would stay
- 7:48Speaker 9: a good guy.
- 7:49Speaker 8: Yeah, they were buddies, but it was one of those, like,
- 7:51Speaker 8: as we said, it was like, I'm kind of, like,
- 7:54Speaker 8: even if I didn't already know, because if you know
- 7:57Speaker 8: anything about the comic, like, That's when I was like, wait,
- 8:00Speaker 8: he's a bad guy.
- 8:01Speaker 9: What are we doing?
- 8:01Speaker 8: So even if I didn't know that, I would feel
- 8:04Speaker 8: like it was almost going too well.
- 8:06Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 8:06Speaker 8: I'm just like, I kind of call bullshit. This guy
- 8:09Speaker 8: is too nice a guy. Like something's up.
- 8:12Speaker 9: And I love the way like they plugged him into
- 8:14Speaker 9: the Iron Man story. That was cool.
- 8:15Speaker 4: I thought.
- 8:16Speaker 9: But yeah, I really loved it. I thought it was excellent.
- 8:19Speaker 9: And the Peter Tingle joke was great. That was one
- 8:22Speaker 9: of my favorite parts.
- 8:23Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:23Speaker 1: I mean, may please stop saying Peter Tingle.
- 8:27Speaker 9: Right. And I did see I took a detour from
- 8:31Speaker 9: the Harry Dean Stanton Fest and went down to the
- 8:32Speaker 9: Kentucky to see the Laurel Canyon documentary from Jacob Dillon.
- 8:36Speaker 9: And I think the guys like the president of Capitol
- 8:38Speaker 9: made it. It almost played like a commercial for the
- 8:40Speaker 9: album they did. They did some sort of anniversary show
- 8:42Speaker 9: for the birds and they played a lot of songs.
- 8:45Speaker 9: And he had a kind of an all star cast.
- 8:47Speaker 9: Beck was involved, Nora Jones and Gina Spector and a
- 8:50Speaker 9: few other people. It was really good. I love that sound.
- 8:53Speaker 9: And I didn't know a lot about those bands. I
- 8:55Speaker 9: feel like it could have went a little deeper. It
- 8:57Speaker 9: was kind of like, you know, just surface level stuff.
- 8:59Speaker 9: But it's cool. And it's always great to see Brian Wilson,
- 9:01Speaker 9: like new footage of Brian Wilson. They all play together.
- 9:04Speaker 9: Was he okay? Yeah, I mean, he was, you know,
- 9:07Speaker 9: he was a little rattled, I guess. But, I mean,
- 9:09Speaker 9: he plays well. I mean, he still plays beautifully. I
- 9:11Speaker 9: love the Beach Boys. Pet Sounds is one of my
- 9:13Speaker 9: favorite albums. And, like, he really kind of, he jumped
- 9:16Speaker 9: in there. He was correcting them on the key that
- 9:18Speaker 9: they were playing the song. It was kind of funny
- 9:20Speaker 9: to see them go back and forth. I like Jacob Dillon.
- 9:22Speaker 9: And funny enough, there's a Hayden Stanton connection to that documentary.
- 9:26Speaker 9: He's interviewing Tom Petty, Jacob Dillon. This is one of
- 9:28Speaker 9: the last things Tom Petty recorded before he passed away.
- 9:30Speaker 9: And for those parts and the driving scenes, Jacob Dillon
- 9:34Speaker 9: has on a Hayden Stanton shirt.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Nice.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Like musical or just from.
- 9:40Speaker 9: It looked like just a film still. I couldn't tell.
- 9:41Speaker 9: It may have been Paris, Texas. I couldn't tell exactly
- 9:44Speaker 9: where the film still.
- 9:44Speaker 8: Because that's why I'm like, I don't think he ever
- 9:46Speaker 8: toured enough to even have a shirt. He just played
- 9:50Speaker 8: probably when he was drinking, got up in the bar
- 9:52Speaker 8: and started.
- 9:53Speaker 9: Now, going back to Cisco Pike, was that song one
- 9:56Speaker 9: that they had recorded together Was it a Chris Christopherson song?
- 9:59Speaker 9: Or did they just make it for the movie? I
- 10:00Speaker 9: wasn't sure where that came from.
- 10:02Speaker 8: I think it is a Chris Christopherson song originally. Maybe
- 10:06Speaker 8: they just did. Yeah, I don't.
- 10:07Speaker 9: Yeah, they played off each other. Well, I wanted them
- 10:10Speaker 9: to do like a whole album or something.
- 10:11Speaker 4: That was neat.
- 10:12Speaker 1: They definitely both have that vibe.
- 10:15Speaker 8: It's a sound and a time period that was going
- 10:18Speaker 8: on that sort of worked. It was a weird crossover.
- 10:22Speaker 8: That's the thing. As I've said many times, I'm not
- 10:26Speaker 8: a huge country fan, but old school stuff I was
- 10:29Speaker 8: good with.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Chris Christopherson was right at that cutoff.
- 10:32Speaker 9: I love old school country.
- 10:33Speaker 8: Old school was badass.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Chris Christopherson's stuff was really great.
- 10:37Speaker 9: He's right.
- 10:39Speaker 8: In that, you know, perfect spot where it was still
- 10:41Speaker 8: kind of cool.
- 10:42Speaker 9: One reason I knew that my last girlfriend and I
- 10:45Speaker 9: weren't going to work out, one son, was that she
- 10:47Speaker 9: tried to get me to listen to Dierks Bentley. She
- 10:49Speaker 9: was like, you know, he's kind of like more traditional country.
- 10:51Speaker 9: I was like, no, he's not. Get out of my life.
- 10:54Speaker 8: There are a few that squeak through in the modern
- 10:58Speaker 8: era that I'm like, you know, you don't fit everything else.
- 11:01Speaker 1: And I don't. I have a problem with it, but
- 11:04Speaker 1: it's rare.
- 11:04Speaker 9: Some of the alternative country, like Golden Smog, I like
- 11:07Speaker 9: Sunvolt a lot. Those guys are great. But yeah, the
- 11:09Speaker 9: popular country, not so much.
- 11:11Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 11:13Speaker 9: But. What have you seen? I know you said you
- 11:16Speaker 9: weren't able to watch much lately.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Not much lately. I'm trying to think before.
- 11:21Speaker 8: Actually, I've got the running list here.
- 11:24Speaker 9: Oh, I saw Crawl while you're looking. I saw Crawl
- 11:27Speaker 9: and Child's Play. Taylor and I went to the drive-in.
- 11:30Speaker 8: I really was excited by the trailer for Crawl.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Does it live up to that?
- 11:34Speaker 9: No, it does not.
- 11:35Speaker 8: Yeah, see, that's the only response I heard online. It
- 11:38Speaker 8: was terrible. We both hated it. The last 15, 20
- 11:42Speaker 8: minutes were exciting, but it's an hour and 27-minute movie
- 11:45Speaker 8: about two people stuck in a hurricane trying to get
- 11:47Speaker 8: out of a house while being attacked by alligators, but
- 11:49Speaker 8: somehow it manages to be really boring.
- 11:51Speaker 1: See, yeah, that premise is like genius.
- 11:53Speaker 9: Yeah, the last 15-20 minutes are great, and it's almost
- 11:55Speaker 9: like two characters the whole time, which some movies can
- 11:57Speaker 9: get away with that, and this one not so much.
- 11:59Speaker 9: Child's Play was fun, though. I mean, it was stupid,
- 12:01Speaker 9: but it was a good kind of stupid. I did
- 12:04Speaker 9: not like all the changes that they made, but overall
- 12:07Speaker 9: it was pretty fun.
- 12:08Speaker 8: Almost.
- 12:08Speaker 9: It kind of had a Stranger Things vibe occasionally with
- 12:11Speaker 9: the kids kind of banding together, I thought.
- 12:13Speaker 8: Yeah, I do. I'm like, it is at least interesting
- 12:16Speaker 8: if they were going to do it because I thought
- 12:17Speaker 8: it was weird that they were doing another. There's so
- 12:19Speaker 8: many sequels that they're trying to do. Right, they're making
- 12:21Speaker 8: a TV show, right?
- 12:22Speaker 1: Kind of a reboot and a TV show.
- 12:23Speaker 9: Yeah, the original guy, I think, wasn't fond of the reboot.
- 12:26Speaker 8: No, I don't think anybody involved was a big fan
- 12:29Speaker 8: of it.
- 12:29Speaker 9: But we watched the original Child's Play last night, which
- 12:33Speaker 9: I think when I originally watched that, I was a
- 12:34Speaker 9: terrified child and didn't finish it. I was scared of
- 12:37Speaker 9: Ghostbusters as a kid. But yeah, it was fun. I
- 12:41Speaker 9: didn't realize that movie took place in Chicago. But yeah,
- 12:43Speaker 9: we met Brad Dourif. Was that last year, Brad Dourif?
- 12:46Speaker 9: I think so. No, it was the year before. So
- 12:48Speaker 9: it was fun seeing him up there. I didn't remember
- 12:52Speaker 9: that it was like a satanic sort of chant that
- 12:54Speaker 9: put his soul into Chucky, which is much more clever
- 12:57Speaker 9: than a rogue AI, which is what the new one is.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. That's the thing.
- 13:01Speaker 8: I was like, at least when they redid it, they
- 13:03Speaker 8: went a different way. That's what I hate is when
- 13:06Speaker 8: they almost beat for beat redo the same thing.
- 13:09Speaker 1: At least come up with a different take on it.
- 13:10Speaker 8: So this is.
- 13:12Speaker 1: More of the, you know, Skynet.
- 13:14Speaker 9: Skynet, like that app.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Yeah, computers are all going to take over our lives.
- 13:17Speaker 9: The company that makes Chucky and used to make drones
- 13:20Speaker 9: and military stuff.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Yeah, at least that's different.
- 13:23Speaker 9: The doll looks horrible, I will say. I don't know,
- 13:26Speaker 9: it looks like The original Chucky got plastic surgery, like
- 13:30Speaker 9: cheek implants and stuff.
- 13:31Speaker 8: The pictures I saw, that was kind of what I.
- 13:33Speaker 9: I was like, oh, that's different. Did you discover anything
- 13:37Speaker 9: on your list there?
- 13:37Speaker 1: I did look.
- 13:39Speaker 8: Yeah, I knew I had to go back a couple weeks,
- 13:41Speaker 8: because the only thing I've watched lately are the ones
- 13:43Speaker 8: we've done episodes about.
- 13:44Speaker 11: Oh, yeah.
- 13:44Speaker 1: But the only other one I did... I had a rewatch,
- 13:48Speaker 1: because I really had been wanting to see it, and
- 13:50Speaker 1: then I.
- 13:50Speaker 2: As.
- 13:52Speaker 8: As I will be discussing in the upcoming future, I
- 13:55Speaker 8: went to the public library, which is a good place
- 13:58Speaker 8: to pick up movies to watch. I don't know if
- 14:00Speaker 8: you're familiar with the library system.
- 14:02Speaker 4: Right.
- 14:02Speaker 9: I am familiar. And we do get the latest video games,
- 14:05Speaker 9: latest movies.
- 14:06Speaker 8: We get a little bit of everything.
- 14:07Speaker 9: But you should still support your local video store if
- 14:08Speaker 9: you've got one nearby.
- 14:09Speaker 8: If you have one. Oh, my don't.
- 14:12Speaker 9: Rest in peace.
- 14:12Speaker 8: Rest in peace.
- 14:13Speaker 9: If you're in the Lunsbury area, check out Star Trek's video.
- 14:15Speaker 9: They sell the finest VHSs and DVDs, and they get
- 14:18Speaker 9: new stuff.
- 14:19Speaker 8: They get old stuff.
- 14:20Speaker 7: It's great.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Next time I'm up there, I do want to go
- 14:22Speaker 1: and just go there and touch movies.
- 14:25Speaker 9: It's wonderful.
- 14:26Speaker 8: All the VHSs are like a dollar or two. They'll
- 14:27Speaker 8: be like, sir, please stop touching the movies.
- 14:29Speaker 9: I bought the original Star Wars trilogy there. It was
- 14:32Speaker 9: the original cut.
- 14:33Speaker 2: The real version.
- 14:33Speaker 9: Box set for like $ 10. Nice. So yeah, his prices
- 14:38Speaker 9: are amazing. Sorry.
- 14:40Speaker 8: Yeah, just plugs for the library and video stores everywhere.
- 14:44Speaker 8: But no, the one that I was just wandering around
- 14:48Speaker 8: trying to decide if I was even going to get something,
- 14:50Speaker 8: and I was like, man, I really want to re-watch
- 14:53Speaker 8: Baby Driver.
- 14:54Speaker 9: Baby Driver is so good.
- 14:56Speaker 8: And I liked it the first time I saw it.
- 14:58Speaker 8: I think I saw it in the theater when it
- 15:00Speaker 8: came out, but I haven't watched it since then. And
- 15:03Speaker 8: I was like, I knew I enjoyed it, but I
- 15:04Speaker 8: was like, I don't know. Again, Edgar Wright's stuff is like,
- 15:10Speaker 8: Some of them are so good. I was trying to
- 15:12Speaker 8: kind of put it in context and decide if I
- 15:14Speaker 8: thought it was up there with a lot of his
- 15:16Speaker 8: other stuff.
- 15:17Speaker 9: Hot Fuzz is my favorite.
- 15:18Speaker 8: Well, that's the thing.
- 15:19Speaker 1: I just kind of was like, yeah, it's pretty close.
- 15:21Speaker 1: It's up there.
- 15:22Speaker 8: And then watching it this time, it's amazing how much time.
- 15:27Speaker 1: And effort he puts into everything.
- 15:29Speaker 9: Right.
- 15:29Speaker 8: Not only, again, being soundtrack dork that I am, the
- 15:33Speaker 8: soundtrack is amazing. Absolutely. But on top of that, How
- 15:37Speaker 8: woven together all of the dialogue is so that everything,
- 15:41Speaker 8: like every little snippet that he catches on TV, he
- 15:45Speaker 8: uses later. Every, like, again, a line from a song
- 15:49Speaker 8: that will pop up. Well, again, the walk home or
- 15:52Speaker 8: the walk back with the coffee, like all of the
- 15:55Speaker 8: weird like visuals that he puts in that are timed
- 15:57Speaker 8: out with the song.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Like, it's so well choreographed.
- 16:01Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a tight filmmaker.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just, I was so much more impressed,
- 16:05Speaker 1: I think, this time.
- 16:06Speaker 8: I think maybe I didn't know what to expect the
- 16:09Speaker 8: first time, and I just went in and was kind
- 16:10Speaker 8: of overwhelmed by some of the cool action scenes and
- 16:12Speaker 8: how well that was choreographed.
- 16:14Speaker 9: He's so good at action. Like, even Hot Fuzz, you know,
- 16:16Speaker 9: is a comedy, but, I mean, it served as a,
- 16:18Speaker 9: you know, a 90s action film.
- 16:20Speaker 8: It essentially is, yeah. A badass cop drama that also
- 16:23Speaker 8: happens to be a comedy.
- 16:24Speaker 9: Absolutely.
- 16:24Speaker 8: It works as both, kind of.
- 16:26Speaker 9: And if I recall correctly about Baby Driver, like, I
- 16:29Speaker 9: know he had that idea for a while and he
- 16:30Speaker 9: made a music video out of that idea. And I
- 16:32Speaker 9: think the music video is actually playing on the TV
- 16:34Speaker 9: in one of the scenes.
- 16:35Speaker 8: Nice.
- 16:36Speaker 1: But yeah, even the.
- 16:38Speaker 8: Like, I do remember the first time thinking how much
- 16:40Speaker 8: it was almost a musical.
- 16:42Speaker 6: Not....
- 16:43Speaker 8: You know, singing and dancing music, but the fact that
- 16:46Speaker 8: maybe more music video, because it is like when the
- 16:48Speaker 8: gunshots are timed with the music playing and like, it's
- 16:51Speaker 8: so orchestrated, like it is a big musical that every
- 16:55Speaker 8: action scene is like a musical number that just happens
- 16:57Speaker 8: to have a lot of gunfire and cars screeching.
- 17:00Speaker 1: And like, I, it's so well choreographed.
- 17:03Speaker 8: I love him.
- 17:04Speaker 9: And like in interviews and stuff, you can tell he's like,
- 17:06Speaker 9: you know, one of the filmmakers that actually is in
- 17:08Speaker 9: love with making film.
- 17:09Speaker 8: He's, Yeah, he is such a movie geek that also
- 17:12Speaker 8: got to direct movies. Yeah, I think that's amazing. And
- 17:15Speaker 8: those are the kind of people I respond to and
- 17:18Speaker 8: I want to seek out more stuff that they do.
- 17:19Speaker 9: As much as I liked Ant-Man, man, if he had
- 17:22Speaker 9: made that movie, it would have been so much better.
- 17:24Speaker 8: You can still feel like those scenes, which I know they,
- 17:28Speaker 8: they claim other, you know, that, that other people were
- 17:31Speaker 8: involved in that. And it wasn't a hundred percent, but
- 17:34Speaker 8: I'm like, those are the times. And I'm like, yeah,
- 17:35Speaker 8: you can see where I was involved in this.
- 17:37Speaker 9: And Guzman's character, you know, that's, that's Edgar Wright.
- 17:40Speaker 8: Definitely. So yeah, it's the Ant-Man. It's fine, but it's, yeah,
- 17:44Speaker 8: I think it would have been so much better had
- 17:45Speaker 8: he got the finish, his vision of it.
- 17:47Speaker 9: Still got that Paul Rudd magic though. So that's one
- 17:50Speaker 9: of my favorite Marvel movies. Yeah.
- 17:52Speaker 8: It's not my favorite, but I can't hate on it
- 17:54Speaker 8: because it's Paul Rudd. There's so many fun moments in it.
- 17:57Speaker 8: I still don't love the story, especially the first one.
- 18:01Speaker 8: I think the second one is actually probably more impressive
- 18:04Speaker 8: as a story.
- 18:05Speaker 9: I feel like it was the first really funny Marvel movie.
- 18:07Speaker 8: It is genuinely funny. It's got some really good stuff
- 18:10Speaker 8: in it. But speaking of directors who are hardcore movie
- 18:16Speaker 8: geeks and film historians and somebody who's kind of one
- 18:20Speaker 8: of us that Grew up and got to make movies.
- 18:23Speaker 1: This week, we're going to talk with Alex Cox.
- 18:25Speaker 8: Yes. Who is kind of awesome.
- 18:27Speaker 9: It's a masterful segue, by the way.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Kind of awesome. Yeah, I didn't know I was going
- 18:31Speaker 1: there until I'm midway in going, oh.
- 18:32Speaker 9: That's how you know you're good.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Hey, this is one of those geeks that got to
- 18:35Speaker 1: make movies, too. And we love those people. So, yeah,
- 18:39Speaker 1: I say let's take our break.
- 18:41Speaker 8: And as we come back, we're going to sit down
- 18:43Speaker 8: with Alex Cox. Talking movies.
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- 19:48Speaker 10: Suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly somebody
- 19:53Speaker 10: will say, like, plate or shrimp or plate of shrimp.
- 19:56Speaker 10: Out of the blue, no explanation. No point in looking
- 20:00Speaker 10: for one either. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.
- 20:05Speaker 10: You eat a lot of acid, Miller, back in the
- 20:07Speaker 10: hippie days?
- 20:08Speaker 9: Yeah.
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- 21:29Speaker 3: When centaurs walked the earth and took the women of
- 21:31Speaker 3: their choosing, when men lived in the ribald revelry of paganism,
- 21:38Speaker 3: when myth and reality were almost one, then did Goliath
- 21:42Speaker 3: descend into the depths of the lost worlds to meet
- 21:45Speaker 3: his greatest challenge.
- 21:48Speaker 4: Goliath, the dream of desire of every woman in the land.
- 21:53Speaker 4: The talented and sought after dancing's wisdom.
- 21:57Speaker 1: Who are you?
- 21:59Speaker 4: Only to find herself enslaved by a passion beyond her control.
- 22:04Speaker 3: No man could match the king's cleverness or cruelties. No
- 22:09Speaker 3: man could match Goliath's might or Goliath's warmth. But when
- 22:17Speaker 3: his younger brother falls madly in love, the boy becomes
- 22:20Speaker 3: easy prey for the monstrous king, whose greatest pleasure is
- 22:24Speaker 3: inventing new ways to murder the unprotected and the innocent.
- 22:30Speaker 3: And bait a trap to bring Goliath to him. Deep
- 22:36Speaker 3: in the Earth's dungeons, Goliath meets the fire-breathing, man-eating, three-headed.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Dog of darkness. Then, with the might of a.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Thousand men, Goliath brings down the wrath of the heavens
- 22:49Speaker 3: on his enemies.
- 22:58Speaker 13: Don't you guys like horror?
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- 26:08Speaker 8: So now let's focus on director Alex Cox. So I
- 26:20Speaker 8: usually try to start, you know, early on and see
- 26:23Speaker 8: how everybody's like influences led them into their career. So
- 26:27Speaker 8: when you were a kid, how early on were these
- 26:30Speaker 8: like interests already setting? Were you a big movie fan,
- 26:33Speaker 8: like even that far back?
- 26:35Speaker 2: The first movie that I can remember seeing, my father
- 26:39Speaker 2: took me to, and I can still remember it because
- 26:42Speaker 2: there was a dinosaur in it.
- 26:43Speaker 3: Nice.
- 26:44Speaker 13: That's always a good start.
- 26:45Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 26:46Speaker 2: It was called Goliath and the Dragon, and I think
- 26:49Speaker 2: it was the last piece of work that Willis O'Brien did.
- 26:52Speaker 2: It was not a very good dinosaur. It was like
- 26:54Speaker 2: a Brontosaurus in a cave.
- 26:55Speaker 13: They were probably cutting the budgets by then.
- 26:57Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 26:58Speaker 2: It was one of those Italian gladiator movies, but it
- 27:01Speaker 2: had a dinosaur, so that.
- 27:03Speaker 13: Stuck with me that's that's enough for my kids and then.
- 27:06Speaker 2: One afternoon in england when i was a kid we
- 27:09Speaker 2: didn't used to have in those days long ago this
- 27:13Speaker 2: would have been the 1950s very early 60s they didn't
- 27:16Speaker 2: have television all day long and the only television came
- 27:19Speaker 2: on around about four o'clock and.
- 27:20Speaker 8: Went off at 11 i still remember it going off
- 27:23Speaker 8: and the beeping and the national anthem here and like
- 27:26Speaker 8: yeah all the weird stuff they used to.
- 27:27Speaker 2: Do and the um One afternoon, I turned on the
- 27:31Speaker 2: television for unknown reasons, because there wasn't any television at home.
- 27:35Speaker 2: But I turned it on and found the end of
- 27:39Speaker 2: Throne of Blood.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Nice.
- 27:42Speaker 2: In Japanese, with Toshiro Mifune being chased around this mansion
- 27:48Speaker 2: by arrows, pincushioned with arrows, and then dying in slow
- 27:53Speaker 2: motion in the dust. And I had no idea what
- 27:57Speaker 2: that was. That came out of nowhere. Why were they
- 28:00Speaker 2: playing Throne of Blood at 3 o'clock in the afternoon
- 28:04Speaker 2: on BBC?
- 28:05Speaker 13: They'd probably never seen anything like that.
- 28:07Speaker 2: It was just a test, and maybe it was for
- 28:09Speaker 2: some education. But anyway, so that was it. So those
- 28:12Speaker 2: are my two introductions to film, was the dinosaur and that,
- 28:18Speaker 2: and the climax of Throne of Blood. And then, of course,
- 28:21Speaker 2: I went to, you know, when I was a little kid,
- 28:23Speaker 2: But it was still in the cartoon cinema, so I
- 28:25Speaker 2: saw quite a lot of Popeye as well. Popeye was
- 28:28Speaker 2: pretty big.
- 28:28Speaker 8: Those are strange re-watching them now. When I catch those,
- 28:32Speaker 8: there's a lot of weird undercurrents going on.
- 28:34Speaker 13: I'm like, I'm not even sure what they're doing.
- 28:36Speaker 8: He's always muttering weird stuff to himself. It's very strange.
- 28:41Speaker 8: But yeah, that all kind of sets in. I guess
- 28:44Speaker 8: at what point did you start seeking out different films?
- 28:49Speaker 8: From that point on, were you already looking for stuff
- 28:51Speaker 8: that was sort of Not the norm, maybe. I mean,
- 28:55Speaker 8: we all kind of find our weird little sub-genres and everything.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Yes, as soon as I could, as soon as I
- 29:01Speaker 2: could pass for 16, I started going to see like
- 29:04Speaker 2: adult films, you know, because I was hoping to see
- 29:06Speaker 2: naked girls. Of course.
- 29:07Speaker 13: That's how all kids get started, I'm pretty sure.
- 29:10Speaker 2: But instead, I found myself like going to see like Dr.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Terror's House of Horrors and Dementia 13 and Italian, endless
- 29:21Speaker 2: Italian westerns. And even occasionally, weirdly enough, sometimes a quality
- 29:27Speaker 2: foreign film would somehow get distribution in England.
- 29:30Speaker 13: Accidentally.
- 29:32Speaker 2: Melville's The Samurai with Alain Delon, dubbed in English in
- 29:36Speaker 2: our local cinema. That's weird. I don't know how that
- 29:38Speaker 2: managed to sneak through. but yeah so that was it
- 29:41Speaker 2: really so it was sort of gradual you know immersion
- 29:47Speaker 2: in And I really, I loved films. I thought they
- 29:51Speaker 2: were just marvelous. It was the most fun I could
- 29:53Speaker 2: imagine was like watching a film or going to a
- 29:56Speaker 2: film or being part of a film somehow. But I
- 29:58Speaker 2: never expected I would.
- 29:59Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Some people
- 30:01Speaker 8: get started really early. By the time like looking into like.
- 30:06Speaker 13: Law undergrad?
- 30:08Speaker 8: Like, it seems like that was pretty far into your
- 30:11Speaker 8: run before it really took off for you.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Well, it was really, in those days, we were supposed
- 30:15Speaker 2: to be scientists. You know, the idea was we were
- 30:17Speaker 2: going to, like, you know, to have a proper job,
- 30:19Speaker 2: you should be a scientist.
- 30:20Speaker 13: I'm sure my parents still would like that for me.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 30:22Speaker 13: It's not going to happen.
- 30:23Speaker 2: My father was an engineer, you know, but I didn't
- 30:25Speaker 2: really have any... a great deal of ability in that area.
- 30:29Speaker 2: And so the fall back then was, oh, you'd be
- 30:31Speaker 2: a lawyer, you know? So I got, luckily I got
- 30:35Speaker 2: to go to, it's all changed now, but in those days,
- 30:39Speaker 2: the sort of the university system was partially existed to
- 30:43Speaker 2: kind of generally educate you. It didn't cost anything. You
- 30:46Speaker 2: went for free, of course, in those days. So I
- 30:49Speaker 2: kind of neglected my law studies almost completely from the
- 30:52Speaker 2: get-go and started doing plays, doing a whole bunch of
- 30:56Speaker 2: undergraduate drama, you know, as an actor and as a
- 30:59Speaker 2: director and a production designer. And so I filled up
- 31:03Speaker 2: those three years pretty solidly with amateur dramatics. And then...
- 31:10Speaker 2: One of the academics there, who was not a law professor,
- 31:14Speaker 2: but a modern language professor, said, you know, you should
- 31:17Speaker 2: try and go to film school because there's one in Bristol.
- 31:19Speaker 2: It's a year-long course. And you can see if you
- 31:22Speaker 2: like it. And I was lucky enough. I got into that.
- 31:25Speaker 2: There were then only two film schools in Britain. One
- 31:29Speaker 2: in Bristol and one in London. I didn't want to
- 31:31Speaker 2: go to London. I didn't like London. So I went
- 31:34Speaker 2: to one in Bristol. That got me started. And then
- 31:36Speaker 2: I got a Fulbright to go to UCLA. And while
- 31:40Speaker 2: I was at UCLA, I saw Cisco Pike with Harry
- 31:43Speaker 2: Dean Stanton.
- 31:44Speaker 8: That we were just right, and you just left the
- 31:46Speaker 8: screening here at Harry Dean Stanton Fest. But yeah, that's
- 31:50Speaker 8: one of those, as you were there and still in Bristol,
- 31:54Speaker 8: was it something that you specifically knew you needed to
- 31:57Speaker 8: end up in? In America or specifically L.A. or was
- 32:01Speaker 8: it something that just kind of happened?
- 32:04Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't have gone to the States at all
- 32:05Speaker 2: if I hadn't gotten Fulbright. I wouldn't have been able
- 32:07Speaker 2: to afford to go. So it was just luck. And, yeah,
- 32:14Speaker 2: I didn't. And, of course, Los Angeles isn't the ideal
- 32:16Speaker 2: place to be anyway. I mean, it's not the nicest
- 32:18Speaker 2: of cities, but it was cheap in those days. You
- 32:21Speaker 2: could live there expensively. Yeah, I don't think that's the case.
- 32:25Speaker 2: I lived just down the street from Cisco Pike. My
- 32:28Speaker 2: rent was $ 150 a month, you know, half a block
- 32:31Speaker 2: from the beach. You know, it's like a single room apartment. But, man,
- 32:37Speaker 2: it was a Liverpool. It was Liverpool.
- 32:39Speaker 13: Basically, yeah, that's impressive. And I could pay for my.
- 32:42Speaker 2: And after the fall break, right after the fall break,
- 32:44Speaker 2: I went back for nine months after the fall break,
- 32:45Speaker 2: I could pay for my education with a work-study job
- 32:48Speaker 2: in the archive at UCLA. So, I mean.
- 32:52Speaker 2: It was such a great time. People say the 70s
- 32:55Speaker 2: weren't good.
- 32:56Speaker 13: Don't believe them.
- 32:57Speaker 2: The 70s was the best.
- 32:58Speaker 13: I think it depends on what you're doing at that time.
- 33:01Speaker 13: Any moment can be good.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Well, actually, no, it probably was a good time to
- 33:05Speaker 2: be in prison, too, because there was still the idea
- 33:07Speaker 2: in the 70s that you would rehabilitate people and just
- 33:10Speaker 2: punish them.
- 33:10Speaker 13: We've lost that now.
- 33:13Speaker 8: But, yeah, I mean, looking at it, you know, then
- 33:15Speaker 8: at that point are you kind of, Because you start
- 33:17Speaker 8: picking up, I guess, like crew jobs and moving into
- 33:20Speaker 8: that territory. Did you already have it set that like
- 33:23Speaker 8: directing is where you wanted to go eventually?
- 33:25Speaker 2: I was never really a crew person because I don't
- 33:27Speaker 2: really have any talents. So the only thing I could
- 33:31Speaker 2: do is be a writer or a director or producer.
- 33:34Speaker 2: But I don't have any actual talents.
- 33:37Speaker 13: The arts is funny.
- 33:39Speaker 8: You know, you find the things that you're good at
- 33:41Speaker 8: that usually don't.
- 33:42Speaker 13: Apply anywhere else in life.
- 33:43Speaker 2: And there were people who were obviously going to be cinematographers,
- 33:46Speaker 2: you know, obviously going to be designers, or obviously going
- 33:48Speaker 2: to be actors, you know, because that was their calling,
- 33:53Speaker 2: their vocation.
- 33:56Speaker 8: Again, I think it's equally as interesting finding people that
- 33:59Speaker 8: find their way to it, that, you know, that maybe
- 34:01Speaker 8: it takes them a little longer. Some kids, you know,
- 34:04Speaker 8: grade school, they're already in plays. They're already like, this
- 34:06Speaker 8: is what I want to do with my life. But yeah,
- 34:07Speaker 8: I think it's equally as interesting.
- 34:09Speaker 13: It's a little.
- 34:10Speaker 2: Early to be, you know.
- 34:12Speaker 8: Finding your way to your place that you need to be.
- 34:15Speaker 8: So then I guess, again, you've mentioned writing. Were you already,
- 34:20Speaker 8: because it's not too far off by the time you
- 34:22Speaker 8: get to writing Repo Man. So were you, I guess,
- 34:24Speaker 8: starting like early on with screenplays or did you just
- 34:27Speaker 8: kind of jump in and end up with something new?
- 34:31Speaker 13: Amazing, like Repo Man.
- 34:32Speaker 2: Oh, no, I started writing screenplays as soon as I
- 34:34Speaker 2: got to UCLA because it was a, you have to
- 34:39Speaker 2: take various classes, you know, and obviously screenwriting, if you
- 34:41Speaker 2: like writing, isn't a hard class. although some of the
- 34:46Speaker 2: students made it difficult for themselves. I mean, screenwriting is
- 34:50Speaker 2: just like the best class. Because even if you're going
- 34:53Speaker 2: to write a feature screenplay, a lot of the students
- 34:55Speaker 2: didn't write features. But when I taught film, I would
- 34:58Speaker 2: always encourage them to write a feature. Because, come on,
- 35:01Speaker 2: it's only 90 pages. You've got like 8 or 10
- 35:03Speaker 2: weeks to do it in. You can write a feature.
- 35:06Speaker 13: I think some people, it just doesn't click.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Like they just.
- 35:09Speaker 8: I don't know where it comes from. Where, you know,
- 35:11Speaker 8: people that are just writers, it's ingrained in them and.
- 35:14Speaker 2: It just comes out. And the screenplay is a specific
- 35:17Speaker 2: form because the screenplay is not a novel. It's not
- 35:19Speaker 2: a short story. It's not a poem. It's something else.
- 35:23Speaker 2: It's not a work of nonfiction. It's a very specific
- 35:26Speaker 2: type of fiction.
- 35:27Speaker 13: Of its own thing.
- 35:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:29Speaker 13: Only existing in film.
- 35:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:32Speaker 13: Only existing in television.
- 35:34Speaker 4: Well, then.
- 35:35Speaker 8: Again, I guess jumping to Repo Man, that is such
- 35:39Speaker 8: an original concept, and then there's some very crazy things
- 35:43Speaker 8: that get worked in. But I was thinking back, I
- 35:46Speaker 8: was like, there's some very strange movies in every decade.
- 35:49Speaker 8: But at that point, there's a lot of stuff that
- 35:51Speaker 8: starts changing in the 80s that all of the movies
- 35:54Speaker 8: that come out at that time started to sort of shift.
- 35:57Speaker 8: But I guess what was it for you that sort
- 35:59Speaker 8: of made that kind of gel into what became the
- 36:02Speaker 8: story that you were telling?
- 36:04Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I was really interested in doing a
- 36:06Speaker 2: film about nuclear war.
- 36:07Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 36:07Speaker 2: I couldn't get a... No one was going to make
- 36:09Speaker 2: a movie about nuclear war, so I couldn't do that. So.
- 36:11Speaker 13: What everyone was kind of worried about at that point anyway.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so then, you know, I had
- 36:19Speaker 2: a friend who was a repo man, and I would
- 36:21Speaker 2: drive around with him and learn about that. And that
- 36:23Speaker 2: was a good story, too. So I thought, maybe you
- 36:25Speaker 2: can combine nuclear... repo thing, you know. But the problem
- 36:29Speaker 2: was then to get a movie on, it seemed like
- 36:32Speaker 2: every movie had to have a high school kid as
- 36:34Speaker 2: the protagonist to get made, you know. And so, okay, well,
- 36:38Speaker 2: we'll have a bunch of high school kids in it too,
- 36:40Speaker 2: you know. And, you know, and what do they do? Well,
- 36:42Speaker 2: they go and see punk shows, of course, because that's
- 36:44Speaker 2: what I did.
- 36:47Speaker 12: So that was it.
- 36:48Speaker 2: It was a kind of a melange of all of
- 36:50Speaker 2: those things. And really also a melange of Los Angeles,
- 36:52Speaker 2: of what I'd learned about Los Angeles, not realizing... But
- 36:56Speaker 2: that was kind of unique to that city, you know.
- 36:58Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 36:58Speaker 2: Because that was the only American city I lived in.
- 37:00Speaker 8: That is what I was going to ask. The music
- 37:02Speaker 8: aspect is definitely very important, specifically that. But again, it
- 37:06Speaker 8: is one of those things that's just, you start looking
- 37:09Speaker 8: at movies coming out at that point and it starts
- 37:11Speaker 8: like creeping into all these different, even things that aren't
- 37:14Speaker 8: like punk themed movies.
- 37:15Speaker 13: It kind of works its way into all these movies
- 37:17Speaker 13: at that time. So you were just like a band?
- 37:19Speaker 2: And the center of it was L.A. It really was.
- 37:21Speaker 2: It wasn't New York because I saw some of those
- 37:23Speaker 2: New York bands like television and stuff and they were boring.
- 37:26Speaker 13: Yeah.
- 37:27Speaker 2: Whereas the scene in L.A. was really vital and interesting.
- 37:32Speaker 13: That was X at their peak. Yeah.
- 37:36Speaker 2: An X who aren't in it.
- 37:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:38Speaker 2: Interestingly. Partially because they're so vocally rich.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:43Speaker 2: That you can't just kind of stick a bit of
- 37:45Speaker 2: soundtrack music oh no you have to listen to the
- 37:48Speaker 2: words as well yeah because they're so rich and so
- 37:51Speaker 2: there's no X song in Repo Man but X kind
- 37:54Speaker 2: of were like the the deity that over the LA
- 37:57Speaker 2: punk scene so you didn't really need X but literally
- 38:00Speaker 2: I mean Iggy had moved to LA from New York
- 38:04Speaker 2: because he thought there's something really interesting going on here
- 38:07Speaker 2: and why I'm wasting my time in Bleaker Street yeah
- 38:10Speaker 2: you know so there was a really a happening scene.
- 38:15Speaker 8: Yeah Again, I think it is all the timing of
- 38:18Speaker 8: everything coming together at that point, and your interest, and
- 38:21Speaker 8: the place that you were. So then, again, assembling that cast,
- 38:26Speaker 8: did you specifically find these people, or did they just
- 38:29Speaker 8: show up at a reading?
- 38:32Speaker 2: A couple of the actors, the executive producer was Michael Nesmith,
- 38:35Speaker 2: and he had produced.
- 38:37Speaker 13: Amazing in its own right. Monkey, and the son of
- 38:40Speaker 13: the woman who invented liquid paper. And that's where his
- 38:43Speaker 13: fortune came from.
- 38:46Speaker 2: He introduced me to Miguel Sandoval and Tracy Walter, because
- 38:51Speaker 2: they'd both been in this movie, Time Rider, that he'd produced.
- 38:54Speaker 2: So I met them through Nesmith. Mostly a process of casting.
- 39:01Speaker 2: The woman who cast Repo Man is a big celebrity
- 39:04Speaker 2: casting director now, but she'd never cast a film before
- 39:07Speaker 2: Repo Man, because we all wanted to be directors at UCLA.
- 39:11Speaker 2: So I said, well, if I'm the director of this film, Vicky,
- 39:13Speaker 2: don't you want to work on She said, yeah, but
- 39:15Speaker 2: what can I do? I said, well, why don't you
- 39:17Speaker 2: be casting director?
- 39:19Speaker 13: We do need people.
- 39:20Speaker 2: We need casting. And so she did. She became the
- 39:22Speaker 2: casting director of Repo Man, and then turned that into
- 39:24Speaker 2: an extremely lucrative career. As did Bob Richardson, who was
- 39:31Speaker 2: the second cameraman on the film. That was the first
- 39:33Speaker 2: feature he worked on.
- 39:35Speaker 13: Again, you do get great shots.
- 39:37Speaker 8: Are you attributing that to some of the other... How
- 39:40Speaker 8: much do you envision going into some of these projects
- 39:43Speaker 8: as far as visual styling and all of that? Or
- 39:47Speaker 8: do you just kind of have more of the plot
- 39:48Speaker 8: in mind and then... sort of address that.
- 39:52Speaker 2: I mean, I have a kind of visual aspect. I
- 39:54Speaker 2: don't like excessive cutting. If you can play a scene
- 39:59Speaker 2: in a master, it always seems much more interesting than
- 40:01Speaker 2: breaking it up into a whole bunch of mediums, close-ups.
- 40:06Speaker 2: So that's kind of consistent, I guess. But I don't
- 40:09Speaker 2: normally plan in very great detail the visual aspect, because
- 40:12Speaker 2: that's for the camera person. That's where they have their fun.
- 40:17Speaker 2: and I don't really mind what lens they use or
- 40:21Speaker 2: how they cover the scene as long as we've got
- 40:25Speaker 2: good footage that we can cut together.
- 40:28Speaker 13: And then do you like the editing process?
- 40:30Speaker 2: Yes.
- 40:31Speaker 13: That's kind of where everything really comes together. As long
- 40:35Speaker 13: as you get your good footage, yeah.
- 40:37Speaker 2: It's very naughty now because the software directors can be
- 40:40Speaker 2: editors as well, which is kind of unfortunate because it's
- 40:42Speaker 2: good to have an editor as a separate person.
- 40:45Speaker 8: Yeah, it used to be its own specific, you know,
- 40:48Speaker 8: when that was your job, it was a little different
- 40:50Speaker 8: than just, yeah.
- 40:52Speaker 2: And I did a couple of films which I did
- 40:54Speaker 2: myself just because technology made it so easy, but I've
- 40:57Speaker 2: gone back to working with editors. It's more fun to
- 41:00Speaker 2: have somebody else to bounce ideas off and somebody else
- 41:05Speaker 2: to interpret them.
- 41:06Speaker 8: The creative team kind of breeds more and more creativity. Yeah,
- 41:10Speaker 8: it's Well, then I guess, I mean, coming off of that, obviously, again,
- 41:14Speaker 8: you're steeped in the punk rock scene, so I guess
- 41:16Speaker 8: that leads to Sid and Nancy.
- 41:18Speaker 2: And we had the biopic of Sid Vicious and Nancy Sponger.
- 41:22Speaker 8: But, again, you're doing it in a very different style.
- 41:25Speaker 8: It could be a little more, you know, traditional biopic,
- 41:28Speaker 8: but trying to put, like, almost like an old-school Hollywood
- 41:32Speaker 8: romance spin on it is.
- 41:34Speaker 13: Very different. No, they're horrible.
- 41:36Speaker 2: I mean, they're a appalling pair. I find them even
- 41:39Speaker 2: more horrible now than I did then. I mean, I
- 41:41Speaker 2: think at that point, we had this kind of romantic
- 41:44Speaker 2: notion about, you know, all kinds of stuff about music
- 41:49Speaker 2: and drugs and love.
- 41:51Speaker 8: And you.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Just, as you get older, you know, you start to
- 41:57Speaker 2: be a little more, even more cynical if it's possible.
- 42:01Speaker 8: I'm there I was discussing yesterday how much I've given
- 42:05Speaker 8: up on most of those things it just becomes easier
- 42:09Speaker 8: as time goes on it's just it's all too much trouble.
- 42:13Speaker 2: And the problem is and the problem for me with
- 42:16Speaker 2: Sid and Nancy is I think it's not possible really
- 42:19Speaker 2: to the nature of making a drama tends to glorify
- 42:24Speaker 2: it tends to make it seem exciting even if it's
- 42:27Speaker 2: the most disgusting thing you could possibly imagine merely by
- 42:32Speaker 2: putting a frame around it, putting an artistic frame around it,
- 42:36Speaker 2: calling it art, putting it on, you know, theater or
- 42:39Speaker 2: cinema or something, it tends to glorify or kind of
- 42:44Speaker 2: give a patina to it. to the most gross things. Yeah.
- 42:49Speaker 2: So I don't find it a very successful film in
- 42:51Speaker 2: that way because for me the most important part of
- 42:53Speaker 2: Sid and Nancy is the scene with Cy Richardson who
- 42:57Speaker 2: plays one of the repo men who's the main guy
- 42:59Speaker 2: in Straight to Hell when he tells Sid and Nancy
- 43:01Speaker 2: they are completely full of BS because of this, you know,
- 43:04Speaker 2: they had this opportunity to start a revolution and they've
- 43:08Speaker 2: just become a junkie rock star. Yeah, which.
- 43:11Speaker 13: a lot of people did at that point.
- 43:13Speaker 8: And now it's, it's part of the trappings of all
- 43:17Speaker 8: of that fame and arts and.
- 43:19Speaker 2: All of it. And you see Cisco Pike and that's
- 43:21Speaker 2: how Harry Dean's character goes out. He just become a junkie,
- 43:24Speaker 2: you know?
- 43:26Speaker 8: Well, you, I definitely wanted to get to, to, and
- 43:29Speaker 8: you brought up straight to hell that that's one just
- 43:31Speaker 8: recently rewatching it. It's, it's kind of crazy.
- 43:35Speaker 13: I think it's great. I have no problem.
- 43:38Speaker 8: I didn't, it's one of those, like, I remembered from
- 43:41Speaker 8: years ago, but I had not watched it in years
- 43:43Speaker 8: and sat down to rewatch it.
- 43:45Speaker 13: It's so... It's just got so many different plates spinning
- 43:49Speaker 13: it at the same time. Have you seen the live version?
- 43:51Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it was the director's cut version that
- 43:55Speaker 8: you did.
- 43:56Speaker 13: That's good.
- 43:57Speaker 2: Originally, when we made the film, we produced it in
- 43:59Speaker 2: a lost heart and thought the film wasn't working and
- 44:04Speaker 2: people were finding it funny and he thought, cut some
- 44:07Speaker 2: stuff out and that'll make it better. So we cut
- 44:09Speaker 2: out a couple of scenes. Which I've put back now.
- 44:13Speaker 8: Again, I think the The things that are coming together,
- 44:17Speaker 8: but it is interesting. Like, obviously, you grew up watching
- 44:21Speaker 8: Spaghetti Westerns and all of that. So was it, again,
- 44:25Speaker 8: was it specifically the Westerns that you just wanted to
- 44:28Speaker 8: make a Western and then you wanted to put your
- 44:29Speaker 8: own spin on it? Or what, I guess, led you
- 44:31Speaker 8: to kind of piece together what all that became?
- 44:35Speaker 2: Well, we couldn't really do a straight Western because of
- 44:40Speaker 2: the number of musicians and the short time that we
- 44:44Speaker 2: had to shoot, you know. So the script was kind
- 44:49Speaker 2: of a potpourri that like Joe Strummer came up with
- 44:51Speaker 2: the idea. And then Dick Roode and I wrote the
- 44:53Speaker 2: screenplay in like two days or three days. And that
- 44:58Speaker 2: was it. And then we went and did it, you know,
- 45:01Speaker 2: because all of these people were like the Pogues and
- 45:04Speaker 2: Strummer were available in the month of August of that
- 45:08Speaker 2: year of 86. And so off we went to Almeria
- 45:13Speaker 2: and did this thing. We were supposed to shoot it
- 45:15Speaker 2: in three weeks. but I realized that we were going
- 45:19Speaker 2: to need a bit more time, and the producer was
- 45:21Speaker 2: a brilliant guy who went and got us a bit
- 45:22Speaker 2: more money so we could have another week of shooting.
- 45:25Speaker 2: Cy Richardson, who was playing the lead, didn't tell me
- 45:29Speaker 2: this at the time, but he had a real job
- 45:32Speaker 2: back in L.A. as well. He was a bank manager
- 45:35Speaker 2: working for Bank of America. They'd given him three weeks'
- 45:39Speaker 2: leave to come and bring him straight to hell, and
- 45:41Speaker 2: then he said... I need another week because the movie's
- 45:46Speaker 2: gone out in about a week. And they said, no,
- 45:48Speaker 2: you have to make a choice. You can either be
- 45:50Speaker 2: a bank manager or an actor. So you go, okay,
- 45:54Speaker 2: I'm going to.
- 45:55Speaker 8: Be an actor.
- 45:56Speaker 13: That's not fun at all. No, I want to go
- 45:58Speaker 13: shoot people out in the desert.
- 46:00Speaker 9: This is way better.
- 46:01Speaker 2: And so it actually worked. It actually worked out for him.
- 46:03Speaker 2: I'm surprised that he didn't get a bigger career, Si,
- 46:07Speaker 2: because he's always worked, but he hasn't become, he didn't
- 46:10Speaker 2: become Samuel L.
- 46:10Speaker 7: Jackson.
- 46:11Speaker 2: And I don't know why.
- 46:13Speaker 8: That's non-stop work i don't know that anybody wants to
- 46:15Speaker 8: be that man does not stop yeah he's got movies
- 46:20Speaker 8: out at the same time in the theater like he
- 46:22Speaker 8: overlaps himself.
- 46:23Speaker 2: He must just like it he must really like that
- 46:24Speaker 2: or else i mean you can't need that much money.
- 46:26Speaker 8: As long as yeah as long as he's been doing
- 46:28Speaker 8: it you think if he didn't want to he'd retire
- 46:30Speaker 8: but he is still lining them up man But yeah,
- 46:34Speaker 8: that one, I mean, I love the coffee angle. I
- 46:37Speaker 8: love the town, like everything. Was that town, was any
- 46:40Speaker 8: of that pre-existing or did you build?
- 46:41Speaker 2: The town was built for a Charles Bronson movie back
- 46:46Speaker 2: in the 60s or very early 70s. And it's a
- 46:52Speaker 2: terrible movie. It was called.
- 46:55Speaker 13: He made a lot of them too.
- 46:57Speaker 2: Caballos Salvajes. Joe thought it was called Savage Cowboys, but
- 47:01Speaker 2: I think it was called... Not Chateau's Land, but something else. Anyway,
- 47:06Speaker 2: some stupid, terrible American Western made in Spain. And they
- 47:11Speaker 2: built this town. And the thing was, obviously, Charles Bronson
- 47:14Speaker 2: wasn't very tall because they'd kind of made all the doors, like,
- 47:18Speaker 2: kind of lower than they really would be.
- 47:20Speaker 13: So he looks. It's all about appearance.
- 47:23Speaker 2: So he would look real good when he came through
- 47:24Speaker 2: that door, you know. And that was the location that
- 47:28Speaker 2: we refurbished because it was already kind of deteriorating. Yeah.
- 47:33Speaker 8: That building that's almost ready to go at any minute.
- 47:35Speaker 8: That's my favorite part.
- 47:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:37Speaker 13: It looks like it. Barely made it through the shoot.
- 47:39Speaker 13: It's all gone now.
- 47:40Speaker 2: Everything's falling down now. There's a few bits of Adobe
- 47:44Speaker 2: sticking out of the ground, but that set is largely vanished.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Whereas the other ones, the Leone sets, for a few
- 47:50Speaker 2: dollars more, and once upon a time in the West,
- 47:52Speaker 2: they're still there.
- 47:53Speaker 8: I mean, with Western, you just need that signature. Look,
- 47:56Speaker 8: it does seem like you could constantly just be bringing
- 47:59Speaker 8: in somebody else wants to shoot a Western, like, Just
- 48:01Speaker 8: change the signs a little bit.
- 48:03Speaker 2: That was how it was then. In the 60s and
- 48:06Speaker 2: early 70s, it was a huge industry. Italian westerns made
- 48:09Speaker 2: in Almeria in Spain.
- 48:13Speaker 8: Also, I definitely wanted to get into just sort of
- 48:16Speaker 8: the love of film in general. So looking at you
- 48:18Speaker 8: doing Moviedrome, that's another one of those that I think
- 48:22Speaker 8: we didn't get much of it here. But I'm looking
- 48:25Speaker 8: at all these people that reference how much that was
- 48:27Speaker 8: the touchstone for them and how they... became a movie
- 48:30Speaker 8: fan because of your, you know, introductions and sort of
- 48:33Speaker 8: the finding these obscure movies or, or just finding like
- 48:37Speaker 8: a way to appreciate things about them. So I don't,
- 48:39Speaker 8: I mean, that, that definitely is something that I think
- 48:43Speaker 8: is really interesting about anybody.
- 48:45Speaker 13: Like there are people that.
- 48:46Speaker 8: Just work in the film industry and it's their job
- 48:48Speaker 8: and they're not, but there are other, you know, there
- 48:50Speaker 8: are people that are just the passion for, for just
- 48:53Speaker 8: the love of film comes through. And so that, yeah,
- 48:57Speaker 8: I mean, what, What was it you were trying to
- 48:59Speaker 8: do as being involved in just sort of curating and
- 49:02Speaker 8: bringing these things to people?
- 49:03Speaker 2: Earn some money. Because the thing was, after I did
- 49:07Speaker 2: this movie Walker, I couldn't get a job in Hollywood anymore.
- 49:10Speaker 2: I was effectively blacklisted. Or not effectively, actually blacklisted. So
- 49:15Speaker 2: I had to make money in order to subsidize my...
- 49:19Speaker 2: hobby of being a filmmaker. So that was a way
- 49:21Speaker 2: of making money. But also it was kind of fun
- 49:23Speaker 2: because the BBC had all of these films under license
- 49:27Speaker 2: so they didn't know what to do with. So this
- 49:31Speaker 2: producer at the BBC called Nick Jones came up with
- 49:34Speaker 2: the idea that we would say it's a cult movie season.
- 49:38Speaker 2: And And then he would just put anything in there.
- 49:41Speaker 2: He'd just pile it all in. And the deal was
- 49:43Speaker 2: that if I didn't like something, I could say I
- 49:46Speaker 2: didn't like it.
- 49:47Speaker 13: And that was very different.
- 49:49Speaker 2: Only time I've ever encountered that where you can introduce
- 49:53Speaker 2: a film. I mean, if you look at Turner Classic Movies,
- 49:56Speaker 2: not to diss, Turner Classic Movies has some very good
- 49:57Speaker 2: films put together. But they have a guy in a
- 50:00Speaker 2: suit with a tie, you know, sitting in front of
- 50:02Speaker 2: a fake fireplace. And he has to say everything about
- 50:06Speaker 2: this film is just great, you know. And it's not
- 50:09Speaker 2: necessary to do that because the audience isn't stupid. The
- 50:12Speaker 2: audience knows that some films are less good than others.
- 50:15Speaker 2: And what I would try and do is find something
- 50:18Speaker 2: interesting even in a bad film, like Diva. So I
- 50:21Speaker 2: could say, well, there is one scene where they've art
- 50:25Speaker 2: directed the whole room so it looks like a packet
- 50:27Speaker 2: of Gitan. You know, this is very French. And so
- 50:31Speaker 2: there were always little things you could say even about
- 50:33Speaker 2: the worst film. You could find something to say about
- 50:35Speaker 2: the editing strategy or about the design or a performance. Like, say,
- 50:39Speaker 2: Cisco Pike, which we just watched. Harry Dean is a standout.
- 50:44Speaker 13: Harry Dean, always a standout.
- 50:47Speaker 8: But yeah, that is something that I really, especially just
- 50:50Speaker 8: watching movies, and then in general, once I started focusing
- 50:53Speaker 8: more on the show, we've watched so many bad movies
- 50:56Speaker 8: over the years. And I'm like, I don't disregard that
- 50:59Speaker 8: they aren't bad. There are many that are, but sometimes
- 51:02Speaker 8: I find the most interesting things in the worst movies. So, yeah,
- 51:07Speaker 8: I think it is one of those. I think all
- 51:09Speaker 8: of them kind of need to be, like, looked at
- 51:12Speaker 8: and reexamined. And, like, a lot of people just want
- 51:15Speaker 8: to brush those aside and look at the Oscar winners.
- 51:18Speaker 8: But I'm like, there's so many way more interesting films
- 51:21Speaker 8: out of there that probably got forgotten that, you know,
- 51:24Speaker 8: if you, I don't know, I think there's just so
- 51:25Speaker 8: much potential to finding stuff in other movies.
- 51:29Speaker 13: Lesser known films.
- 51:30Speaker 8: So, well, and then with, with something like that, do
- 51:34Speaker 8: you get into just like discussing film? Do you, cause
- 51:37Speaker 8: I know you've done teaching, you've written.
- 51:39Speaker 13: Books about it.
- 51:40Speaker 8: So how much do you enjoy just the, the like
- 51:42Speaker 8: passing on that knowledge or like bringing it, you know,
- 51:45Speaker 8: kind of discussing film, I think is just as important
- 51:48Speaker 8: as the filmmaking process.
- 51:50Speaker 4: Really?
- 51:50Speaker 8: I'm like, you can make the best movie in the world,
- 51:52Speaker 8: but if nobody wants to see it or talk about it.
- 51:54Speaker 13: So I think once now that we've got.
- 51:56Speaker 8: Sort of this culture that, enjoys you know engaging in
- 52:00Speaker 8: discussions about film i i don't know i i really
- 52:02Speaker 8: appreciate that so it's like what what is it you
- 52:05Speaker 8: try to bring when you're doing like yeah again like
- 52:07Speaker 8: curating a film festival or putting together a class for
- 52:10Speaker 8: someone about film.
- 52:12Speaker 2: Just what interests me i mean it's got to be
- 52:14Speaker 2: something that interests me to make to make a book
- 52:17Speaker 2: happen or to make a film happen it has it's
- 52:19Speaker 2: an innate thing that there's something that's interesting like um
- 52:24Speaker 2: I mean, for book-wise, it helps if you can do
- 52:26Speaker 2: an anniversary, like if it's the 50th anniversary of The Prisoner,
- 52:29Speaker 2: it's much easier to write a book and publish a
- 52:31Speaker 2: book about The Prisoner. But I was, I'm totally obsessed
- 52:35Speaker 2: with The Prisoner. It's the best thing that was ever
- 52:36Speaker 2: on television. And boy, you know, so I was lucky.
- 52:42Speaker 2: This is the 35th anniversary year of Repo.
- 52:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 52:45Speaker 2: Who knows?
- 52:47Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, with any of that, it does
- 52:49Speaker 8: seem like there's, There's a newfound wave of people looking
- 52:54Speaker 8: for that type of stuff.
- 52:55Speaker 13: Do you think there's a future in this new... Everything
- 52:59Speaker 13: is now available streaming and everybody... But it's not, is it?
- 53:02Speaker 13: I mean, well, there's so much more. Again, not necessarily
- 53:05Speaker 13: what we're looking for sometimes.
- 53:07Speaker 2: Tell me a film in black and white that's streaming.
- 53:09Speaker 2: Apart from Roam.
- 53:10Speaker 13: There are.
- 53:11Speaker 8: Well, I think you just have to look a little harder.
- 53:14Speaker 8: I have seen... There are a couple of new streaming
- 53:16Speaker 8: services that are catering to older and arthouse kind of stuff.
- 53:20Speaker 13: There's, oddly enough, near the library right now.
- 53:23Speaker 8: The public library started a weird streaming service that I
- 53:28Speaker 8: hope people get on board with and kind of support
- 53:31Speaker 8: that because I think they do find really good movies
- 53:35Speaker 8: and make them available.
- 53:35Speaker 2: But when I look at what's available on Hulu or
- 53:38Speaker 2: Amazon or Netflix, it's all English language films in color.
- 53:43Speaker 13: And a lot of recent stuff that you've never heard of.
- 53:46Speaker 2: And you don't want to know about.
- 53:47Speaker 13: Yeah, it's just weird. People that got the movie made, yeah.
- 53:52Speaker 2: And that was an unfortunate thing because Criterion and TCM
- 53:57Speaker 2: tried to have a streaming service, didn't they?
- 53:59Speaker 13: Yeah, and they don't. People just don't want to put
- 54:02Speaker 13: money towards it. Anything that they can go download for
- 54:05Speaker 13: free or cheap Netflix.
- 54:05Speaker 2: But the thing is, they're paying for their Netflix and
- 54:07Speaker 2: they're paying for their Amazon, you know, and they're paying
- 54:09Speaker 2: for their Hulu.
- 54:10Speaker 13: It's weird.
- 54:11Speaker 2: It is disturbing that because that... The combination of Criterion
- 54:17Speaker 2: and TCM meant that there was going to be a
- 54:20Speaker 2: place where you could stream films in black and white
- 54:23Speaker 2: and foreign language films. Gone. So we're kind of screwed.
- 54:28Speaker 13: You just never know what to expect from people.
- 54:32Speaker 8: Just when I think we've got a good fan base going,
- 54:35Speaker 8: sometimes they let the best stuff fall to the wayside.
- 54:38Speaker 13: So it's... I don't know.
- 54:41Speaker 2: And there's films that just, you know, I mean, there's
- 54:42Speaker 2: films that literally have disappeared. I mean, you know Francesco Rossi,
- 54:45Speaker 2: the Italian director? He made a film called The Matte Affair.
- 54:48Speaker 2: It's his best film. It's better than Salvatore Giuliano. It's
- 54:53Speaker 2: an absolute masterpiece. Try and find that. Try and find
- 54:56Speaker 2: The Matte Affair with Gian Maria Volante made in 1971.
- 54:58Speaker 2: And it's in color. But it's a film about the
- 55:03Speaker 2: guy who founded the Italian petrochemical business. And it's very political.
- 55:08Speaker 2: And it's a brilliant film. It's like Citizen Kane. But
- 55:12Speaker 2: with an even better performance. But it's just not available.
- 55:17Speaker 2: And partially it's screwed because it's owned by both the
- 55:24Speaker 2: Italian producer and Paramount. And so for anybody to bring
- 55:29Speaker 2: out a DVD or a Blu-ray, they would both have
- 55:31Speaker 2: to pay off the Italian producer and Paramount.
- 55:34Speaker 13: There's so many rights things that kill a.
- 55:36Speaker 2: Lot of those movies. Paramount have no desire to promote
- 55:39Speaker 2: a film which says that the American oil business is
- 55:43Speaker 2: deeply corrupt. It's almost like.
- 55:46Speaker 13: They're running everything.
- 55:47Speaker 2: They were owned by Gulf of Weston for a while.
- 55:52Speaker 2: So it's really problematic. And if you don't know about
- 55:55Speaker 2: the Matt Daly affair, how do you find it? If
- 55:58Speaker 2: you know about it, maybe you can find an illegal
- 56:02Speaker 2: bootleg of it somewhere. But if you don't know about it, how.
- 56:06Speaker 8: Do you do that? At least people connect. Usually it's
- 56:10Speaker 8: all the internet. Nobody leaves their house at this point.
- 56:13Speaker 8: Sometimes you do find stuff that's... They at least try
- 56:16Speaker 8: to find the good stuff on the internet.
- 56:18Speaker 13: There's plenty of bad out there too.
- 56:20Speaker 2: Like you said, the physical institution of the library. You
- 56:23Speaker 2: can go to the library and see what they've got
- 56:25Speaker 2: in their DVD collections. it's something good.
- 56:27Speaker 13: I brought that up recently.
- 56:29Speaker 8: I was like, I'm surprised sometimes the stuff I run
- 56:31Speaker 8: across that's like, they're still bringing in new film. They're
- 56:33Speaker 8: bringing in like criterion movies that.
- 56:35Speaker 13: Nobody's checking out cause they don't know they're there. So yeah, it's,
- 56:38Speaker 13: it's impressive. Yeah.
- 56:39Speaker 8: Well, and then as far as like filmmaking, you, you're
- 56:43Speaker 8: still directing. Is it something that you still enjoy that
- 56:47Speaker 8: as much as, as the writing or the hosting or,
- 56:50Speaker 8: or doing film?
- 56:51Speaker 2: The hosting I don't enjoy at all. That's a job.
- 56:54Speaker 2: But the, um, No, that was just to make some money.
- 56:57Speaker 2: But I enjoy every aspect of the filmmaking process. I
- 57:03Speaker 2: enjoy scheduling.
- 57:06Speaker 13: I enjoy doing the breakdown.
- 57:10Speaker 2: Except raising the money, which is very hard. But everything
- 57:12Speaker 2: else is just wonderful. It's just a wonderful process.
- 57:17Speaker 6: All right.
- 57:18Speaker 13: Well, have you got stuff in the works?
- 57:20Speaker 8: Or is there stuff you want to tell people to
- 57:22Speaker 8: kind of see what you've got going on?
- 57:24Speaker 2: I am very old And in five years' time, I
- 57:29Speaker 2: will be 70. That's it. Because I think when you
- 57:35Speaker 2: turn 70, you should stop driving and you should get
- 57:40Speaker 2: out and make way. You should probably do that when
- 57:44Speaker 2: you're 40. But in the ensuing five years... I would
- 57:51Speaker 2: like to do a sequel to Repo Man because I
- 57:55Speaker 2: now have the U.S. rights back. And so, unfortunately, if
- 57:59Speaker 2: I can't make a deal with the university, it means
- 58:01Speaker 2: I can't sell it abroad. And that makes it more
- 58:03Speaker 2: difficult to raise the money. But if I can, over
- 58:06Speaker 2: the next five years, I would like to do a
- 58:07Speaker 2: sequel to Repo Man and a movie about Billy the Kid. Nice.
- 58:12Speaker 13: Both of those are good options.
- 58:15Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 58:15Speaker 2: The sequel to Repo Man is called The Wages of Beer.
- 58:20Speaker 8: Well, and then there's a hole in that theory, though,
- 58:22Speaker 8: because as we just said, Samuel L. Jackson will not
- 58:25Speaker 8: stop working. He is pushing 70 right now. And he's
- 58:29Speaker 8: still doing action movies.
- 58:30Speaker 13: He's an actor.
- 58:31Speaker 2: Oh, I wouldn't quit being an actor because you might
- 58:34Speaker 2: need an 80-year-old guy in the movie. Well, there you go.
- 58:36Speaker 2: Except I won't build them in my lines. I'll have
- 58:37Speaker 2: to write them on the wall.
- 58:38Speaker 13: Just giant cute guys.
- 58:42Speaker 2: I acted in a movie last year. Not a movie,
- 58:44Speaker 2: a series for Mexican television, or Mexican streaming. A series
- 58:48Speaker 2: about the 1968 massacre in Tlatelolco, the massacre of students.
- 58:53Speaker 2: And I play the station chief of the CIA in
- 58:56Speaker 2: Mexico City, Winston Scott. So it's all scenes of me
- 59:01Speaker 2: in restaurants. Not all me, but all my scenes are
- 59:04Speaker 2: in restaurants, sitting around the table, talking, endless explaining what's
- 59:09Speaker 2: going on in Spanish.
- 59:11Speaker 8: That's more of what you get as doing the AG actors.
- 59:14Speaker 8: A lot of it becomes sitting at a desk, sitting
- 59:16Speaker 8: in a restaurant.
- 59:17Speaker 2: Jake the explainer, or Joaquin the explainer. Yeah, but it
- 59:21Speaker 2: was so much fun. It was so much fun because
- 59:23Speaker 2: I was working with some really good actors. There's a
- 59:26Speaker 2: Mexican actor called Daniel Jimenez Cacho was the lead. And
- 59:30Speaker 2: he's just a brilliant actor. And some of these guys
- 59:33Speaker 2: had a lot more dialogue than me. And boy, they
- 59:37Speaker 2: were like spot on. These were like really great. So
- 59:41Speaker 2: that was really fun.
- 59:41Speaker 13: That's impressive. I know I don't remember anything.
- 59:45Speaker 8: Anyone can remember their lines.
- 59:50Speaker 2: If you have, I'm not one trying to encourage you
- 59:53Speaker 2: to get an Amazon account by any means, but if
- 59:55Speaker 2: you did have one, you could find it online. It's
- 59:57Speaker 2: a series called Un Enemigo Extraño, A Strange Enemy. And
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: it's really kind of a cool series. It's eight episodes.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: Maybe it should only be five. But you know how
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: it is. I mean, it's whatever it is.
- 1:00:09Speaker 13: At this finish, again.
- 1:00:10Speaker 8: The system's changed so much now. If you want to
- 1:00:12Speaker 8: make 10, 12, 15 hours, if you get the money,
- 1:00:16Speaker 8: you can do it.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: Well, I'm kind of hoping. I mean, the director's talking
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: about doing a second season. So I hope they do
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: next year because then I can go back and be
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: the CIA station chief. Well, that's good.
- 1:00:28Speaker 13: You've got new stuff coming up.
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:00:30Speaker 13: Well, thank you for being with us.
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for having me.
- 1:00:33Speaker 8: All right.
- 1:00:33Speaker 13: Thank you.
- 1:00:52Speaker 5: The government gets over his throat.
- 1:00:55Speaker 9: Sutton first, major stroke.
- 1:00:57Speaker 8: Over at Newcompton.
- 1:00:58Speaker 9: Coup d'etat.
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: And this guy, CAA, is the name of the agency,
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: although I think they're all the same, said, you don't
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: want to work with Harry Dean. I said, I don't?
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: He goes, no, Harry Dean's past it. You want somebody
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: who's up and coming, and I've got just the person
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: for you. I go, ooh, Mick Jagger. Can you imagine
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: how this film would have turned out? You know? Nobody
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: would be sitting here tonight watching this movie with Mick Jagger.
- 1:01:39Speaker 9: You can't always get what you want.
- 1:01:44Speaker 8: You can't always get what you want.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:02:05Speaker 8: So thank you to Alex for sitting down and answering
- 1:02:08Speaker 8: my goofy questions and listening to me ramble on about
- 1:02:11Speaker 8: my love of movies.
- 1:02:13Speaker 9: And thank you for repo, man. That's probably my favorite
- 1:02:16Speaker 9: Hades Stanton film. I believe it's just so dang weird.
- 1:02:19Speaker 8: I mean, he, he's kind of co-lead. Like, he doesn't get,
- 1:02:22Speaker 8: you know, he's got two leads, essentially, and that's the most.
- 1:02:25Speaker 9: Sort of like Paris, Texas, and this, right? Paris, Texas,
- 1:02:28Speaker 9: I guess, the last.
- 1:02:29Speaker 8: Movie, and then this is probably the most screen time between,
- 1:02:33Speaker 8: you know, Lucky and Paris, Texas. Yeah, Repo Man's probably
- 1:02:36Speaker 8: the next round of, you know, the most screen time,
- 1:02:39Speaker 8: the most co-lead that he gets to play the rest
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: of his career.
- 1:02:42Speaker 9: He's just so crazy in it. This is, like, that
- 1:02:44Speaker 9: whole movie has got such a good vibe. It's like,
- 1:02:46Speaker 9: it's one of those that I keep thinking about long after, uh,
- 1:02:49Speaker 9: after I've seen it, like a, like, I love Donnie Darko,
- 1:02:53Speaker 9: I'm not ashamed. And it's one of those, I can
- 1:02:55Speaker 9: start Googling stuff about Donnie Darko long after I've watched it.
- 1:02:58Speaker 8: I want to do an entire episode. I've also got
- 1:03:02Speaker 8: at least one person in mind who is not a fan,
- 1:03:05Speaker 8: and I kind of think I need that.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: There to counterbalance, because I'm somewhere in the middle of.
- 1:03:09Speaker 9: I would drive to Louisville for that, so put me
- 1:03:10Speaker 9: on that if you need some money.
- 1:03:12Speaker 8: Yeah, if we can put that together. I'm definitely not
- 1:03:15Speaker 8: ashamed to say I like it, but I also want
- 1:03:18Speaker 8: to delve into it, because I think... That's another filmmaker
- 1:03:21Speaker 8: that I'm like, I don't know where he falls.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: He might be genius. He might just be a lunatic.
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with him.
- 1:03:27Speaker 9: I've heard Southland Tales is better than people give it
- 1:03:29Speaker 9: credit for.
- 1:03:29Speaker 8: I was recently discussing Southland Tales. It is insanity. Again,
- 1:03:35Speaker 8: in both directions.
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: It's amazing and.
- 1:03:39Speaker 8: what the fuck all at the same time so i'm
- 1:03:41Speaker 8: like i don't know what to do with it i
- 1:03:43Speaker 8: believe i read the comic and the comic was pretty
- 1:03:45Speaker 8: good yeah that's another one of those that was kind
- 1:03:47Speaker 8: of that era when like we're gonna do a tie-in
- 1:03:49Speaker 8: comic book that's not really like it's not the movie
- 1:03:52Speaker 8: done in comic form it's a tie-in that like you
- 1:03:55Speaker 8: have to know what's going on in the comic to
- 1:03:58Speaker 8: fully understand the movie i'm like that's going too far.
- 1:04:01Speaker 9: Yeah that's i understand if they went back and re-edited
- 1:04:03Speaker 9: the movie to put some of the comic book stuff
- 1:04:05Speaker 9: in so people weren't as confused I don't know that
- 1:04:08Speaker 9: that's really going to rescue it. Donnie Darko, the website
- 1:04:11Speaker 9: I set up real late, I remember in one of
- 1:04:12Speaker 9: my friend's dorm rooms, and we went through that whole website.
- 1:04:15Speaker 9: It's cached somewhere, so you can get back to it.
- 1:04:17Speaker 9: So I started going through it again. It's like, yeah,
- 1:04:18Speaker 9: I love that movie. Jakey G.
- 1:04:21Speaker 8: On the tie-in back to our Marvel discussion, I did
- 1:04:24Speaker 8: think it was kind of awesome. Again, talking about movies
- 1:04:27Speaker 8: that Harry Dean Stanton has tons of screen time in.
- 1:04:29Speaker 8: The Friday night festivities here, if you guys missed it,
- 1:04:32Speaker 8: they did an outdoor screening, brought in the big screen,
- 1:04:35Speaker 8: got everybody. It's family friendly, so everybody came out and
- 1:04:38Speaker 8: just kind of sat out in the park and watched
- 1:04:40Speaker 8: a movie outdoors. The movie was The Avengers.
- 1:04:43Speaker 9: Yes, the security guard.
- 1:04:46Speaker 8: I thought that was great. I was like, granted, I
- 1:04:47Speaker 8: want to go sit outside and watch The Avengers anyway.
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: But the fact that it's the Harry Dean cameo, essentially.
- 1:04:53Speaker 9: Yeah, last year they did Straight Story, which I thought
- 1:04:56Speaker 9: was great. I had not seen that one either. That's
- 1:04:58Speaker 9: one of the great things about it. I love Harry Dean,
- 1:05:00Speaker 9: but he's got so many movies or a lot of
- 1:05:02Speaker 9: them that I haven't seen.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: He logged in a lot of films.
- 1:05:04Speaker 9: Yeah, so Straight Story I thought was just a beautiful,
- 1:05:07Speaker 9: beautiful movie.
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:05:09Speaker 8: David Lynch at his least weird.
- 1:05:11Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:05:13Speaker 8: In his life, including his personal life, I'm pretty sure.
- 1:05:15Speaker 9: That was his only G movie, so yeah. I was thinking,
- 1:05:19Speaker 9: what did I see recently that I thought, oh, have
- 1:05:21Speaker 9: you seen the show Legion? On FX.
- 1:05:23Speaker 8: I hear nothing but good things. I've not had time
- 1:05:26Speaker 8: to delve into it.
- 1:05:27Speaker 9: Even if you don't like superheroes, this is like Mr.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: Robot.
- 1:05:33Speaker 9: It's got a bit of Pushing Daisies in it, which
- 1:05:35Speaker 9: I love that show. It's got a Lynch vibe to
- 1:05:37Speaker 9: it as well. There's some outright weird, crazy things that
- 1:05:40Speaker 9: go on. I think if he had directed an episode,
- 1:05:43Speaker 9: which I think this is the last season they're on now,
- 1:05:45Speaker 9: I think he should come in. I think he could
- 1:05:47Speaker 9: do an awesome episode of that show.
- 1:05:50Speaker 8: I've got a co-host that wants them to go ahead
- 1:05:54Speaker 8: and work that in as official like canon moving forward
- 1:05:57Speaker 8: into the new x-men.
- 1:05:59Speaker 11: That would be reboot whatever the hell they do with
- 1:06:01Speaker 11: it's just absolutely weird i mean it's aubrey plaza like
- 1:06:04Speaker 11: you know you've seen her in parks and rec but
- 1:06:06Speaker 11: man in this she's just outright insane and like in
- 1:06:09Speaker 11: a good way and she made me fall in love
- 1:06:11Speaker 11: with her more.
- 1:06:12Speaker 8: Yeah tie in for now she's there and child's play
- 1:06:16Speaker 8: but this is also like i said this the other
- 1:06:18Speaker 8: day Actually, we were, no surprise, as we're hitting used bookstores,
- 1:06:23Speaker 8: Misty's there, and I'm looking at the new or last
- 1:06:27Speaker 8: month's issue of Cosmo on the counter there, and I'm
- 1:06:29Speaker 8: just like, you know, if you go back and... told
- 1:06:32Speaker 8: me that weird, awkward girl in Mystery Team would someday
- 1:06:37Speaker 8: be on the cover of Cosmo looking super hot. I'm like,
- 1:06:40Speaker 8: I would have told you you were crazy because she
- 1:06:42Speaker 8: is such a weirdo. And by that, I mean I
- 1:06:44Speaker 8: love her. But she's so weird and unusual. So the
- 1:06:47Speaker 8: fact that she gets to kind of cross over now
- 1:06:50Speaker 8: into acceptable, normal, modern... she's getting magazine covers like it's
- 1:06:55Speaker 8: it's kind of amazing she's the best she's come that
- 1:06:58Speaker 8: far and yet is still.
- 1:06:59Speaker 9: Totally a weirdo at heart you should watch welcome to
- 1:07:01Speaker 9: sweden which is amy puller's brother's show she's on it
- 1:07:04Speaker 9: too like amy puller plays herself and it's about like
- 1:07:06Speaker 9: her brother like he i think he was like an
- 1:07:08Speaker 9: accountant for celebrities or something and he moves off to
- 1:07:10Speaker 9: sweden with his wife and he gets harassed by her
- 1:07:13Speaker 9: to come back and aubrey plaza is like stalking him
- 1:07:15Speaker 9: as aubrey plaza it's really funny Wait.
- 1:07:17Speaker 8: As herself?
- 1:07:18Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:07:19Speaker 8: That sounds about right.
- 1:07:20Speaker 9: It's kind of like one of those, I don't know,
- 1:07:21Speaker 9: entourage-y sort of inside baseball sort of things.
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: It's a fictional version of the real world. Right, right, right, right.
- 1:07:28Speaker 9: But yeah, she's the best. Speaking of Cosmo, are they
- 1:07:30Speaker 9: ever going to run out of sex tips?
- 1:07:32Speaker 8: I don't think so. I mean, I usually don't go
- 1:07:36Speaker 8: past the photos. Because it involves reading, and obviously I'm
- 1:07:39Speaker 8: not going to learn anything.
- 1:07:40Speaker 9: Absolutely.
- 1:07:41Speaker 8: Nor do I have a use for it.
- 1:07:42Speaker 9: Right.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: But, yeah, usually I'm just like, hey, what's this photo
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: shoot look like?
- 1:07:47Speaker 8: Oh, that's cool. That's cool.
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: All right, I'm done now.
- 1:07:49Speaker 9: I heard some people playing with a bop-it once, and
- 1:07:52Speaker 9: I thought maybe that's what they could use for sex tips.
- 1:07:53Speaker 9: You know, bop-it, push it. Actually, I've seen a video.
- 1:07:57Speaker 9: I spend a lot of time on the internet, let
- 1:07:59Speaker 9: me tell you. As previously mentioned, the evils of the internet.
- 1:08:02Speaker 9: I have seen one that.
- 1:08:03Speaker 8: Involved a bop-it. Thank you very much.
- 1:08:04Speaker 6: Oh, well.
- 1:08:06Speaker 9: Pornhub.com.
- 1:08:07Speaker 8: Evils of the internet. We're not sponsoring them yet, but
- 1:08:09Speaker 8: if they would like to.
- 1:08:10Speaker 9: Sponsor the show, I'm not too good for them. One
- 1:08:14Speaker 9: joke I wrote once was something about, I can't even
- 1:08:15Speaker 9: remember how it went, but what if there was like
- 1:08:18Speaker 9: a men's version of Cosmo and it'd be like, you
- 1:08:20Speaker 9: want to heat things up in the bedroom? Get this
- 1:08:22Speaker 9: new Kinstar energy heater.
- 1:08:23Speaker 8: I mean, guys are kind of dumb. You could just
- 1:08:27Speaker 8: sell them whatever.
- 1:08:28Speaker 9: Right, right.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: You're like, oh, really?
- 1:08:30Speaker 8: Okay, cool.
- 1:08:30Speaker 9: It's like Bob Bielas Cosmo. I want to see that.
- 1:08:33Speaker 8: GQ just doesn't cut it for you.
- 1:08:34Speaker 9: Right. No, I got to get some sort of tool-related things.
- 1:08:39Speaker 9: And that wasn't a euphemism.
- 1:08:41Speaker 8: You do with it what you want, guys. I mean,
- 1:08:43Speaker 8: whatever you need to take from it.
- 1:08:46Speaker 9: Yeah, but man, I love Lexington.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome.
- 1:08:50Speaker 8: I've had a good day. Just this run today has
- 1:08:53Speaker 8: been pretty awesome, and I've hit a lot of places.
- 1:08:56Speaker 8: I might have, as I was out there, if you're
- 1:08:58Speaker 8: in Lexington wandering around, I might have dropped a few
- 1:09:00Speaker 8: flyers as I was going. I'm trying to infect a
- 1:09:03Speaker 8: few more Lexingtonians and get them to be like, what
- 1:09:06Speaker 8: the hell is this? And then listen and be like, oh, hey,
- 1:09:08Speaker 8: they were at Aridine Staten Fest. So I want to
- 1:09:11Speaker 8: spread our love and goodness and evil that is when
- 1:09:15Speaker 8: we melt down to the rest of the cities of
- 1:09:16Speaker 8: the world.
- 1:09:17Speaker 9: Godspeed, my friend. I walked around and played Pokemon Go,
- 1:09:20Speaker 9: so I also got a nice little tour of the city.
- 1:09:22Speaker 8: That's equally as geeky in a separate direction.
- 1:09:24Speaker 9: And again, I am 40.
- 1:09:26Speaker 8: I don't think there's any kids out there playing. I
- 1:09:28Speaker 8: think it's just old, weird people like us.
- 1:09:30Speaker 9: I had a really weird, but I was in Owensboro
- 1:09:33Speaker 9: and there's an old building there. I don't know if
- 1:09:35Speaker 9: you saw it when you visited called Gabe's Tower. It's
- 1:09:37Speaker 9: like really weird. I don't know if you call it mid-century.
- 1:09:39Speaker 9: I'm not an expert in architecture, but like it's this
- 1:09:41Speaker 9: old round building. It used to have a Like, when
- 1:09:44Speaker 9: it was open, it was a hotel, and it had, like,
- 1:09:46Speaker 9: a bar at the top of it. There's a swimming
- 1:09:47Speaker 9: pool at the top of it. It was a pretty crazy, like,
- 1:09:50Speaker 9: odd building for Owensboro. And it's been closed down forever.
- 1:09:53Speaker 9: In Pokemon Go, it is a gym called Haunted Hotel.
- 1:09:57Speaker 9: Some terrible things have happened at this hotel after it
- 1:09:58Speaker 9: closed down. Or actually, it's still open. But anyway, I
- 1:10:03Speaker 9: was there on my bike. I have a little mount.
- 1:10:05Speaker 9: This is how nerdy I am. I have a mount
- 1:10:06Speaker 9: on my bike. It was on the bike when I
- 1:10:08Speaker 9: got it, but I figured out my iPhone fits in there,
- 1:10:10Speaker 9: so I'll drive around and play Pokemon Go.
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: This is a new level of nerdy.
- 1:10:13Speaker 8: I'll give you that.
- 1:10:14Speaker 9: But I was playing, and I took this gym. I'm
- 1:10:17Speaker 9: not going to bother explaining the premise of the game.
- 1:10:19Speaker 9: I think everybody gets it. But I took this gym,
- 1:10:21Speaker 9: and I saw while I was there fighting someone's Pokemon,
- 1:10:24Speaker 9: whatever the plural is, Pokemon. Pokemon eyes. As I was
- 1:10:29Speaker 9: taking these out, I do know you get an alert
- 1:10:31Speaker 9: if somebody's fighting your guys. I saw a black SUV.
- 1:10:34Speaker 9: It was almost like a government thing parked over to
- 1:10:36Speaker 9: the side. And after I won, I took off. And
- 1:10:39Speaker 9: just within a few minutes, I got a notification that
- 1:10:42Speaker 9: my Pokemon had died or came back to me. And
- 1:10:47Speaker 9: then when I went off, I saw the SUV was gone.
- 1:10:50Speaker 9: So I started fighting this guy's Pokemon again. And not
- 1:10:53Speaker 9: too long after that, the SUV comes up and parks
- 1:10:55Speaker 9: right behind me. And I finish up. And then I
- 1:10:59Speaker 9: bike off again. And sure enough, it was like, so
- 1:11:01Speaker 9: these people must not have much of a life. I
- 1:11:04Speaker 9: guess maybe they set camp out and wait for notifications.
- 1:11:06Speaker 8: And it's bad coming from the middle of this story.
- 1:11:09Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:11:09Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, I do other things, too. But,
- 1:11:11Speaker 9: you know, it was just funny, like, you know, twice
- 1:11:14Speaker 9: this mysterious government-looking SUV comes up next to me to
- 1:11:18Speaker 9: fight my Pokemon.
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: Were there unmarked helicopters hovering.
- 1:11:22Speaker 9: In the background? I didn't notice any, but I don't
- 1:11:25Speaker 9: know that I had my glasses on. Yeah, the truth
- 1:11:27Speaker 9: is out there. You got to watch your back. Amen.
- 1:11:29Speaker 8: So, my question... Are you supposed to ride and Pokemon Go?
- 1:11:35Speaker 8: Because I feel like that's dangerous.
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: That's like a don't text and drive kind of thing, right?
- 1:11:40Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:11:40Speaker 9: Well, on my bike, I've mastered the one-hand capture. But
- 1:11:46Speaker 9: if I'm riding, I don't usually play it a lot.
- 1:11:48Speaker 9: It's not until I stop that I get in these.
- 1:11:50Speaker 9: So I do ride a little bit. But I don't
- 1:11:52Speaker 9: play while I'm driving because I have one of those insurance.
- 1:11:54Speaker 7: Bugs, little.
- 1:11:55Speaker 9: That's very uncool. Discount me if I don't use my phone.
- 1:11:58Speaker 9: It actually says phone use. It'll duck me for phone use.
- 1:12:01Speaker 8: Kids, if you learn anything today, it's don't drive and
- 1:12:03Speaker 8: play Pokemon Go.
- 1:12:04Speaker 9: Yeah, and if you want any more reinforcement for that lesson,
- 1:12:06Speaker 9: I rear-ended somebody once from looking at my phone. Facebook,
- 1:12:10Speaker 9: you know.
- 1:12:12Speaker 6: Ugh.
- 1:12:12Speaker 8: The evils of the internet, except when going to heritagestantonfest.org
- 1:12:19Speaker 8: and finding out about next year's festivities.
- 1:12:22Speaker 9: Yes, please support this. It is such a great event. It's, uh,
- 1:12:25Speaker 9: The people who come, you'll usually get to hang out
- 1:12:27Speaker 9: with for a little bit. There's no formal meet and greets,
- 1:12:30Speaker 9: so it's all pretty casual. There's bars and there's things
- 1:12:34Speaker 9: around that you can get up.
- 1:12:35Speaker 8: She usually has at least one of it centered around
- 1:12:37Speaker 8: some sort of gathering, probably a bar that you can
- 1:12:40Speaker 8: just kind of hang out and just talk to other
- 1:12:43Speaker 8: geeks that are into movies.
- 1:12:44Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:12:45Speaker 9: Harry Dean even came and hanged out when he was alive.
- 1:12:48Speaker 9: That was awesome.
- 1:12:48Speaker 8: That was a pretty epic year.
- 1:12:50Speaker 9: I've seen video. I wasn't able to make it that year, sadly.
- 1:12:52Speaker 9: I know it was her dream to have him out.
- 1:12:55Speaker 9: That was a beautiful thing for her to be able
- 1:12:57Speaker 9: to achieve.
- 1:12:58Speaker 8: It was great. Again, it was the last few years.
- 1:13:02Speaker 8: We didn't know it at the time, I guess, but
- 1:13:03Speaker 8: it's not like he was getting younger. It was good
- 1:13:06Speaker 8: that before that happened, he got to come here. He
- 1:13:08Speaker 8: got to experience how much people appreciated him in more
- 1:13:11Speaker 8: or less his hometown and then You know, they gave
- 1:13:14Speaker 8: him the key to the city. Like, it was such
- 1:13:16Speaker 8: a great night. So, it's good that he got to
- 1:13:18Speaker 8: experience that while he was still around.
- 1:13:19Speaker 9: Absolutely, absolutely.
- 1:13:20Speaker 8: And now, I was even more, like, thrilled that... Because
- 1:13:24Speaker 8: once he was gone, I was like, oh... So is
- 1:13:26Speaker 8: that going to change the festival now? Because, you know,
- 1:13:28Speaker 8: that was kind of a weird thing to have happen. Normally,
- 1:13:32Speaker 8: if you're doing it in honor of someone, they're probably
- 1:13:34Speaker 8: long gone. And, you know, this is my Orson Welles
- 1:13:36Speaker 8: film fest. But when the person is still there, like
- 1:13:39Speaker 8: I'm like, that's a weird moment, you know. So I
- 1:13:42Speaker 8: was really glad to see After it happened, how much
- 1:13:45Speaker 8: Lucy was just going to carry on and continue to
- 1:13:47Speaker 8: do it like she always has.
- 1:13:48Speaker 9: I feel like nothing's changed at all.
- 1:13:49Speaker 8: It really hasn't. And if more, she's like equally as
- 1:13:52Speaker 8: driven to bring in even better guests, continue to put
- 1:13:56Speaker 8: on new and different. Like every year she puts on
- 1:13:59Speaker 8: a totally different other event kind of coupled with it.
- 1:14:02Speaker 9: Yeah, like the prom, which I hate that I missed that.
- 1:14:04Speaker 8: The 80s prom to go with the Pretty in Pink showing.
- 1:14:07Speaker 8: And yeah, so everything was kind of tailored just specifically for...
- 1:14:12Speaker 8: For this event, and it's mostly due to Lucy. So, again,
- 1:14:15Speaker 8: support Lucy and everything Harry Dean Stanton Fest related. Go
- 1:14:19Speaker 8: to their website and plan your trip here next year.
- 1:14:21Speaker 9: Yes, it's a wonderful city, and make sure you add
- 1:14:24Speaker 9: some time to go see the shops and the great
- 1:14:26Speaker 9: food that's around here. Taliho, what up? I know your
- 1:14:30Speaker 9: service is not always great, but your burgers make up
- 1:14:32Speaker 9: for it.
- 1:14:33Speaker 8: Parkette.
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: I'm a Parkette fan.
- 1:14:35Speaker 9: I don't think I've had that.
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: It's an old-school drive-in, and I'm not driving.
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: Oh, yes, I have.
- 1:14:39Speaker 8: Not a drive-in movie, as in drive up and eat
- 1:14:41Speaker 8: your food, which isn't a good idea, so you go
- 1:14:43Speaker 8: inside because there are tables now.
- 1:14:44Speaker 9: I think I had that for the first time or
- 1:14:46Speaker 9: the last year, and that was really good.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: That was a regular.
- 1:14:48Speaker 8: I think we recorded an episode sitting there many years ago.
- 1:14:52Speaker 9: Again, I keep derailing this, but the best burrito I've
- 1:14:56Speaker 9: ever had is here in Lexington. If you go McDonald's
- 1:14:58Speaker 9: as you come into Lexington, I don't know if you
- 1:15:00Speaker 9: come in the same way as me, but it's on
- 1:15:02Speaker 9: Versailles Road, Versailles, whatever. um depending on where you're from
- 1:15:06Speaker 9: i suppose there's like a little kind of mexican sort
- 1:15:08Speaker 9: of not a suburb like a street where there's a
- 1:15:11Speaker 9: lot of shops that uh but there's a burrito shop
- 1:15:14Speaker 9: in there it looks like it's an old gas station
- 1:15:15Speaker 9: or something and you know it's authentic you know there's
- 1:15:18Speaker 9: all kinds of stuff in there but their burritos actually
- 1:15:19Speaker 9: got voted a couple food critics from blogs traveled around
- 1:15:23Speaker 9: america to find like the best burrito in america and
- 1:15:24Speaker 9: that either came in number one or number two and
- 1:15:27Speaker 9: uh it was it's amazing like i was up here
- 1:15:29Speaker 9: for kpla the library conference and yeah we ate there
- 1:15:32Speaker 9: more than once and.
- 1:15:34Speaker 8: Again, not to do nothing but plug these places. But again,
- 1:15:37Speaker 8: if any of them would like to sponsor us, feel free.
- 1:15:39Speaker 8: But this, I wish I hadn't. As I talked to
- 1:15:42Speaker 8: you earlier, I was like, I'm going to go grab
- 1:15:43Speaker 8: some food and then we'll come and record, which we're
- 1:15:46Speaker 8: doing now. So when I'd already eaten, if not, because
- 1:15:49Speaker 8: I was wandering around after that just trying to find
- 1:15:51Speaker 8: stuff to do while I was waiting for the movie.
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: And I passed by Girls, Girls, Girls Burritos.
- 1:15:58Speaker 8: Oh, I heard about this place. And I'm like, you know,
- 1:16:00Speaker 8: just for name alone, this is genius.
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: I want to get on board with you guys.
- 1:16:03Speaker 9: I think my friend Ronnie was like a bike delivery
- 1:16:05Speaker 9: person for them or something. Here's the large burrito. Look
- 1:16:09Speaker 9: how big that is. Impressive.
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: Giant.
- 1:16:13Speaker 8: I do like giant burritos.
- 1:16:14Speaker 9: And that's a good visual aid for the folks at home.
- 1:16:17Speaker 8: It was very large. But yeah, so that one's one
- 1:16:21Speaker 8: I'm going to have to come back. So next year
- 1:16:22Speaker 8: when you're heading to, you know, Harry Dean Stanton Fest,
- 1:16:26Speaker 8: you can come have a burrito of one of their
- 1:16:28Speaker 8: many fine establishments in this town.
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: Sure.
- 1:16:30Speaker 9: Support local businesses, y'all.
- 1:16:33Speaker 6: I agree.
- 1:16:33Speaker 8: And Harry Dean Stanton Fest.
- 1:16:35Speaker 9: Absolutely.
- 1:16:36Speaker 8: On that note, I say we wrap it up. We
- 1:16:38Speaker 8: have rambled on about the wonders of Lexington for long enough.
- 1:16:41Speaker 9: Yes, it's an enchanting burg.
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: So, otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time.
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: Same geek read.
- 1:16:47Speaker 8: Thanks for listening. Bye.
- 1:16:59Speaker 5: When I lock my afterburners, I'm a bullet whizzing by.
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: I'm zero to sixty light years in the blink of
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: an alien eye.
- 1:17:07Speaker 5: I'm in a shaking, baking, stinking, smoking like the vertical climb.
- 1:17:10Speaker 8: If I was going any faster.
- 1:17:12Speaker 13: I'd be going back in time.
- 1:17:15Speaker 5: Leaving nothing but a paper train.
- 1:17:20Speaker 4: In my ride from outer space.
- 1:17:26Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:29Speaker 12: I can banter through a nebula and slingshot through the sun.
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: Don't look no further, bet it, cause you know I'm
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: number one.
- 1:17:37Speaker 5: On top that flame, that bomb, that field, you've got.
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: To trick it out.
- 1:17:41Speaker 4: When I burn through your dimension, you'll know.
- 1:17:43Speaker 5: What it's all about.
- 1:17:44Speaker 10: I can tell a.
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: Girl from that look there on your face. You're digging
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: my ride from outer space.
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: You know you're diggin' it, baby.
- 1:18:04Speaker 5: My ride from outer space My ride from outer space
- 1:18:12Speaker 5: My ride from outer space My ride from outer space
- 1:18:18Speaker 5: It's really.
- 1:18:24Speaker 8: Fast I am diabetic, so, you know, how we breathe
- 1:18:28Speaker 8: I hear you have really fancy shoes, though True.
- 1:18:33Speaker 9: And our socks are tight. Compression socks.
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: I think I have some, too.
- 1:18:37Speaker 9: Oh, they're good.
- 1:18:38Speaker 8: They didn't card me or anything when I got them.
- 1:18:40Speaker 9: Yeah, you don't have to prove yourself. My girlfriend's 18-year-old
- 1:18:44Speaker 9: sister wears those for some reason.
- 1:18:46Speaker 8: On the beach?
- 1:18:47Speaker 9: No, maybe. I mean, we are going to Hawaii soon.
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