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Why Gas Companies Don't Want You Driving On Water (Gashole) · Under the Docs

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  Speaker 1: You can just put water in your car and now
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  Speaker 1: it's free, and they've been making it so that you
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  Speaker 1: can't do that because they want your money.
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  Speaker 2: Under the docks, Yeah, under the docks, very favor with
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  Speaker 3: The dogs under the docks, under the ducks, Yeah, under
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  Speaker 3: the docks, under the docks, Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And in this episode, we're gonna have a skull and
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  Speaker 1: Bones member tell you to drive your car off of McDonald's.
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  Speaker 4: The film Gaso a twenty ten film directed and narrated
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  Speaker 4: by Scott D.
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  Speaker 5: Roberts.
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  Speaker 4: This came out right after the two thousand and eight
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  Speaker 4: financial crisis, when gas hit four to five dollars.
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  Speaker 5: Some people are like, has it ever went down? Right?
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  Speaker 4: Like some depending on what part of the country you're
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  Speaker 4: like it still is five dollars maybe, and people were
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  Speaker 4: really really mad and they were going after big oil.
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  Speaker 4: At the time, everything was you know, oil, oil oil.
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  Speaker 4: It was fresh off, like you know, the Iraq and
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  Speaker 4: Afghanistan stuff as well to where you're like, oh, we
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  Speaker 4: just went there for oil in this financial crisis and
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  Speaker 4: big oil is the problem.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad we're done with all the Middle Eastern
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  Speaker 1: oil wars and we're out of all the financial crises.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's long behind.
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  Speaker 5: Plotting the course.
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  Speaker 4: Gaso argues that oil companies and automakers in Wall Street
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  Speaker 4: and even government actors deliberately suppress high efficiency oil barrel
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  Speaker 4: prices and electronic electric vehicle technologies to maintain profit control
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  Speaker 4: and energy. So they're saying that big oil may have
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  Speaker 4: killed alternative energy as far as electric cars or even
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  Speaker 4: solar or wind power right, and some of the claims
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  Speaker 4: they make, like the electric car was deliberately killed.
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  Speaker 5: They talk about in.
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  Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety California ZEV mandated pass nineteen ninety six, General
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  Speaker 4: Motor releases an EV one and then two thousand and
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  Speaker 4: three GM repossesses and crushes an evy one one vehicles.
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  Speaker 4: This is their claim of the oil companies conquering big
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  Speaker 4: electric cars and trying to maintain their field of which
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  Speaker 4: is interesting in retrospect of what has happened in the
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  Speaker 4: last couple years, Like and you're like, dang, how things
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  Speaker 4: swayed back and forth in the world we live in.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is twenty ten, right, based on research from
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  Speaker 1: like the mid two thousands, probably at the latest. And
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  Speaker 1: it does have a little bit of that Al Gore
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  Speaker 1: Inconvenient Truth feel where they're saying, yeah, it's the oil
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  Speaker 1: companies and they're causing all these problems, price fixing, they've
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  Speaker 1: they're destroying alternate fuels, destroying the cars, and they're causing
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  Speaker 1: pollution that's gonna make the ice caps melt and the
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  Speaker 1: polar bears are gonna die. Like it kind of blends
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  Speaker 1: all that in and as soon as they start mentioning
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  Speaker 1: oil and the polar caps, I just felt like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, Like I know what year this came from, right,
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  Speaker 1: Remember that five to ten year period when that was
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  Speaker 1: just the focus of everything.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of was like, dang, I almost got wrapped
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  Speaker 4: up into that, Like that's what I was thinking, because
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  Speaker 4: it kind of catapulted a lot of these films, Like
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  Speaker 4: I watched this on Netflix, and this is relatively new
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  Speaker 4: when Netflix was new to streaming right when they started,
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  Speaker 4: maybe the first couple of years of it, so they
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  Speaker 4: had a lot of these like documentaries like this, and
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  Speaker 4: then listening to Alex Jones and and uh.
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  Speaker 5: Jordan Max when it came out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw this when it came out, so I
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  Speaker 4: was just say what, big boy. So I was very
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  Speaker 4: easily influenced. I could have been one of these crazy
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  Speaker 4: like uh anti like oil people, Like I'm not that
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  Speaker 4: on ford to oil companies or anything. I mean, if
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  Speaker 4: they the dollars, right, I mean they can, I can
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  Speaker 4: be bought right, But.
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  Speaker 1: They sponsor this show, so I hope not. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: got out the show.
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  Speaker 5: Shout out the show.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Then they explore a couple of these inventors, right we've
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  Speaker 4: always here nowadays about the combustible engine and water being used,
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  Speaker 4: and they go through the reference. The whole film starts
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  Speaker 4: out with in the nineteen twenties and fifties around that
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  Speaker 4: timeframe that people were making and designing engines to like
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  Speaker 4: run off one hundred miles for one gallon of gas.
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  Speaker 4: And then we're like, hey, this is thirty four miles
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  Speaker 4: with a gallon pretty good, man. So it struck me
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  Speaker 4: at the time even so like relevant where I'm like, dang,
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  Speaker 4: at that time, we were only getting like twenty two,
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  Speaker 4: like twenty three miles per gallon. You're like, how did
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  Speaker 4: this guy already get one hundred miles to the gallon?
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  Speaker 4: And then he sells the patent to show and then
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  Speaker 4: we don't hear nothing about it.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and then he turns up dead in the desert
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  Speaker 1: or something, or that was someone else. But that's so
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  Speaker 1: the so I think just the surface, what the ultimate
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  Speaker 1: claim is that they're making is that oil companies could
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  Speaker 1: make more efficient cars even though the oil in the
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  Speaker 1: car companies. So now you have to have all car
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  Speaker 1: manufacturers in the in bed with all oil manufacturers, and
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  Speaker 1: the car guys are being like, look, we'll make our
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  Speaker 1: cars really inefficient, so they have to buy more gas
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  Speaker 1: and use more oil. So the oil companies like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: do that because we want to sell more oil and
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  Speaker 1: more gas, and that if something were to come onto
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  Speaker 1: the market, that's like, hey man, you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: fill up anymore. You could just you can get one
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles out of this tank. And again, like we're
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. Now do I swear I just
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  Speaker 1: saw like a Volvo ad that said something like six
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles to a gallon, right, But they're saying that
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  Speaker 1: the reason that the gas companies were not allowing any
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  Speaker 1: of this to come out because it would hurt their sales,
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  Speaker 1: and ultimately that for over one hundred years, the car
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  Speaker 1: companies and the gas companies, and I think logically you
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  Speaker 1: would say any energy company, one that uses energy at all,
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  Speaker 1: have also been suppressing the idea that you can get
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  Speaker 1: one hundred even two hundred miles to a gallon on
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  Speaker 1: gas or hell even water. You can just put water
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  Speaker 1: in your car and now it's free, and they've been
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  Speaker 1: making it so that you can't do that because they
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  Speaker 1: want your money.
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  Speaker 4: And part of for me, like the argument is that
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  Speaker 4: it's going to that they're suppressing technologies that could surpass us,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's electric. That's what in the first part they
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  Speaker 4: do what a lot of these documentaries do where you're like,
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  Speaker 4: they're like, this guy was mysteriously killed, right, or he
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  Speaker 4: mysteriously died, and then you start it perchs you up
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  Speaker 4: right where you're like, yeah, well they do kill people
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  Speaker 4: over knowing things and I think they don't answer some
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  Speaker 4: of the questions, like if it can run off water.
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  Speaker 4: One question I've always had with my brother, we talk
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  Speaker 4: about living in a cold state.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, what happens when it freezes?
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  Speaker 4: Like right, Like, what happens when the car freezes at
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  Speaker 4: night overnight and you're running this water? Like sometimes your
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  Speaker 4: wind schew wipers, the spray to clean your windows will
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  Speaker 4: freeze if it gets too cold. It happened to me,
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  Speaker 4: and I have a brand new car, right the brand new.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like, oh it's been old, it froze over.
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  Speaker 4: So I think sometimes they kind of are misleading in
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  Speaker 4: these directions. I understand, but they had me at first
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  Speaker 4: with they talk about like Tom Ogle in the eighties,
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  Speaker 4: who who invented comes and he mysterious, he dies, and
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  Speaker 4: then they talk about another guy who was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I was also working on that, And then they started
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  Speaker 4: giving me weird looks, and I was like.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, I'm just going to stay away.
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  Speaker 4: Like they paint this picture of government manipulation and big
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  Speaker 4: oil stepping in and killing people for these technologies, which
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  Speaker 4: is believable. Don't get me wrong, I think that I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't hold anything against anybody, but sometimes they don't explain
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  Speaker 4: the full picture.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple specifics. So they bring up a guy
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  Speaker 1: called David Blackmore, and it's like retired Shell scientists. They
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  Speaker 1: say it really fast, like he worked at Shell for
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  Speaker 1: five years. And then I was like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: you say only five years he worked here? Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's not bad, but this he was an old dude,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm sure he worked at a million other places
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  Speaker 1: and he had a short little stint there. But this
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  Speaker 1: is the appeal to authority, like, oh, here's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that worked at the company so and he said that
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  Speaker 1: that there was a nineteen forty seven Studa baker they
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  Speaker 1: got one hundred and fifty miles to a gallon, and
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  Speaker 1: that it was based on a prototype from a nineteen
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  Speaker 1: thirty nine that had fifty miles to a gallon. And
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  Speaker 1: then he said that the one thousand, one thousand mile
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  Speaker 1: per gallon barrier was broken in the late nineteen seventies.
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  Speaker 1: So he makes all those claims, but they just kind
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  Speaker 1: of stay like that as claims. Then they interview a
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  Speaker 1: guy called ken Kunt, which doesn't have any proof, but
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  Speaker 1: he does know about a thing a guy told his
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  Speaker 1: dad fifty years ago, and now he's repeating what his
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  Speaker 1: dad told him to you, so that you'll repeat it
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  Speaker 1: to someone else's dad. You know. Me, Like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the evidence and the proof here is like, ah, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know I had this buddy twenty years ago that
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  Speaker 1: knew this other guy twenty years before that that like
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  Speaker 1: had a car that could get one thousand miles per gallon.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy, you know. And then so like some of
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  Speaker 1: the proof is like a guy told me, A guy
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  Speaker 1: told me.
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  Speaker 4: Guy, Yeah, my dad told me that he was helped
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  Speaker 4: the architect the whole internet back in like the forties.
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  Speaker 4: And and then it's just this like you gotta believe me,
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  Speaker 4: believe this guy that. And then you know the telephone
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  Speaker 4: game where you're like, I don't know how much of
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  Speaker 4: that has been embellished over the years because once the story,
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  Speaker 4: because one thing people forget is once the story becomes
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  Speaker 4: good and people like telling it, they tell it multitude
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  Speaker 4: of times, and they could see which parts their brain
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  Speaker 4: starts condensing it and to the point of where you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is the best part.
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  Speaker 5: Oh people react to this.
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  Speaker 4: So you kind of change and embellish things over the
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  Speaker 4: time to kind of really because this is a drunk
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  Speaker 4: story that you go around at the well, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: my granny, you know, she used to know this guy
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  Speaker 4: that had a combustible engine running off of vegetable oil, right,
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  Speaker 4: like that's where it all started. And then they kind
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  Speaker 4: of I think one of the peaks to me the
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  Speaker 4: claim that they make, and this is also a claim
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  Speaker 4: that I'm like, yeah, I can stand behind this. I
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  Speaker 4: think a lot of this whole film is almost Edward
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  Speaker 4: Brenet's esque, as if you think of like cigarettes, right
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  Speaker 4: when he wanted to try to get everybody smoking and
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  Speaker 4: he attached himself to the women's liberty movement where he's like, ah,
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  Speaker 4: women can't smoke, Like that's crazy, Like women should be
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  Speaker 4: able to smoke, and then was able to boost the prices.
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  Speaker 4: I think at this when they talk about the two
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  Speaker 4: thousand and eight oil prices being artificially inflated, I think
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  Speaker 4: they use this as their catapult to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we should go everything electric, we should go solar, we
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  Speaker 4: should this.
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  Speaker 5: Green New deal.
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  Speaker 4: This and remind you that this is the beginning states
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  Speaker 4: of the Green New Deal. So you can see these
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  Speaker 4: seeds being planted. They took something of the time that
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  Speaker 4: they knew was relevant, and they're like, Yeah, everybody's pissed
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  Speaker 4: off about these gas prices.
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  Speaker 5: Let's push them towards the green New deal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So this documentary goes through a few different phases. So,
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  Speaker 1: like the very first part of the documentary, it's basically
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  Speaker 1: about the suppression of technology. Water being used for cars,
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  Speaker 1: propane being used for cars, all sorts of vapor systems
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  Speaker 1: that convert the gas into a vapor before it goes
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  Speaker 1: into the carburetor, and like does all So a lot
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  Speaker 1: of it is about the suppressed technology. And there was
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  Speaker 1: two other ones you already mentioned Tom Ogel, who apparently
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  Speaker 1: had this car that could get like one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty miles to a gallon. There was an article he
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  Speaker 1: did it in his Forward Galaxy in like nineteen seventy,
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  Speaker 1: and he sold the patent. He immediately lost all the
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  Speaker 1: money in the patent in a pool game apparently, and
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  Speaker 1: then he's found dead in the desert on a drug overdose.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the last you hear Tom Ogle. But it's like,
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  Speaker 1: did the industry do that? Did Big Oil do that?
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  Speaker 1: Did the Ford Company do that? And then there's a
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  Speaker 1: guy that knew Tom ogle or knew someone that knew
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  Speaker 1: tom ogole. And his name's Ernest Pierce. He's just a
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  Speaker 1: retired mechanic. He's like your friend's dad, right that like
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  Speaker 1: has stories. And he's like, I saw it, man, I
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  Speaker 1: saw that with my own eyes. And he showed me
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  Speaker 1: how it worked. And he was like, here, let me,
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  Speaker 1: let me show you something. And he opens up the
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  Speaker 1: hood of a car and I was like, hell, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: finally they're gonna talk to one person in the entire
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  Speaker 1: world that's like, and here's the car that runs on
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  Speaker 1: water or propane or whatever. Right here it is. And
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  Speaker 1: he opens it up and he's like, now, this is
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  Speaker 1: just a normal car, but if you imagine, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, come on, man, this is the documentary.
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  Speaker 1: You're the guy saying that you knew a guy. You
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  Speaker 1: just went and opened up a hood. Don't tell me
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  Speaker 1: use your imagination. You know. It's like, well, if you
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  Speaker 1: had some propane here in a vapor system, you'd be
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  Speaker 1: getting one hundred and fifty miles a gallon and this
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  Speaker 1: car right here. And my first thought was like, and
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  Speaker 1: if you put wheels on Grandma, she'd be a bike.
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  Speaker 1: But like, like, none of that makes any sense right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you get a lot of that throughout this film,
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  Speaker 4: where they're like, they are its. You gotta believe me.
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  Speaker 4: Because even then when they talk about like the I
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  Speaker 4: think it was tom Ogo, whether they're like and his
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  Speaker 4: family doesn't want to be on camera and you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: they just didn't want to. Maybe they disagree with your premise, right,
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  Speaker 4: because maybe they do know him.
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  Speaker 5: They know him.
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  Speaker 4: There is this thing that happens when people die too
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  Speaker 4: that people that are not in that tight circle are like, well,
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  Speaker 4: and they must have been killed by big oil. And
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  Speaker 4: then the family knows, hey, he had a problem, right,
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  Speaker 4: maybe you did have a problem.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe he wasn't ALKI maybe, And.
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  Speaker 1: Then what's the response going to be. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they got to you man, the Tavistock Institute, they got
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of like where there's bait and switch
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  Speaker 4: of like that you have to believe me like kind
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  Speaker 4: of deal because you have to believe what they're saying
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  Speaker 4: throughout this thing to really kind of go over the timeline.
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  Speaker 4: And when it kind of concludes, there's there more conclusion
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  Speaker 4: of it is that like the way we can move
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  Speaker 4: forward is going green, right, getting electric cars pushing these
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  Speaker 4: in there. Throughout the film, there's again the first half
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  Speaker 4: is kind of trying to hook you in by like, look,
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  Speaker 4: did the government and suppress this with the help of oils?
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  Speaker 1: Could we be getting one thousand miles a gallon? But
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  Speaker 1: the government killed this man and left them in the desert.
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  Speaker 4: And then they show you examples of all these multitudes
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  Speaker 4: of people that they're like, look, this guy died, this
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  Speaker 4: guy died, this guy was looking up this And then
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  Speaker 4: they kind of show you some of the vague things
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  Speaker 4: that have gone over time, and then they're just like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, now we should get electric cars and get
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  Speaker 4: solar panels and win meals and they're talking about all
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  Speaker 4: and I think at the time I might have bought
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  Speaker 4: into it. I know I did buy into that, but
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  Speaker 4: now I'm like over time that I'm like, ah, you
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  Speaker 4: guys didn't see what happened in the past sixteen years
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  Speaker 4: and all the stuff that we didn't think about.
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  Speaker 5: They don't address any of that in this film.
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  Speaker 4: They just give you this hope and this dream of like,
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  Speaker 4: if you build it, they will come kind of like,
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  Speaker 4: if you get electric cars, we will save the planet.
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  Speaker 4: Because they start little by a little nudging you into
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  Speaker 4: that climate change zone.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so it goes through the three phases. The first
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  Speaker 1: one is the technology suppression. Then it gets into price
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  Speaker 1: fixing and how the oil industry raises prices unfairly and
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  Speaker 1: they keep production down so they can charge more. And
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  Speaker 1: that's all these political antitrust monopolies going on, which I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent all that's true. Of course. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: Rockefellers monopolized the industry and they did price fixing and
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  Speaker 1: they went to court over it and then they had
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  Speaker 1: to be split up. That's happened to Microsoft, that happened
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  Speaker 1: to Bell Laboratories. It happens all the time everywhere always,
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  Speaker 1: and the whole premise too of like them just not
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  Speaker 1: being fair, Like it's not moral the way that the
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  Speaker 1: oil industry operates. There was a couple examples where one
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  Speaker 1: of them is like, yeah, well they made this oil
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  Speaker 1: or they made this guy. They refined the oil and
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  Speaker 1: they made the gasoline, and then Katrina hit and now
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  Speaker 1: the production costs went up. But why are they charging
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  Speaker 1: this more because they made it when it was cheaper.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like these guys haven't heard of just standard accounting.
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  Speaker 1: And like first in first out or last in first
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  Speaker 1: out accounting, where you evaluate the value of your inventory
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: based on the latest cost of good. I'm not gonna
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: get into a whole thing, but like, that's how normal
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: businesses operate. They don't look at it like, man, we
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: had that thing made, you know, five years ago, and
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: five years ago it costs this, so I guess we
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: can just sell it for a lot cheaper, even though
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: if I had to replace it today it would cost
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: me three times as much. I'm not saying that's how
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: that works, but to use that as the example of
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: they're being so unfair to us. Man, they're they're overcharging us,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and none of that's really illegal. And then and then
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the third part, so it goes from technology suppression to
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: oil companies are mean and unfair to and biodiesel and
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: electric cars are going to solve everything. And I think
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: they even lean harder into the biodiesel than they do
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: into the electric car angle, because again this is twenty ten,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: and the electric car, like no one knew how to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: solve that. But everyone was like, man, but you're saying,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I could just take my used oil from like when
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I deep fried my turkey on Thanksgiving and I can
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: just drive around on that. Man, they're trying to suppress this,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know you like people, I've known people
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that converted their car they could run on biodiesel, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: they did the thing where you would like drive to
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: restaurants and ask them for their old oil and they
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: put in their car and they drive around. You could
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: like smell them coming and go in.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it also focuses on the biofuel aspect of their like,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: see they are suppressing it. It was at this gas
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: station and then they bought it and this guy and
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: then the guy that's telling you is like his dad.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, why didn't you buy it from your dad?
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Why didn't you work something? There's obviously some reason.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: You don't want to run the guy He's like, yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: that sucks, man, Like what can I do? Man? My
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: dad's selling it. And it's like, well, couldn't you keep it?
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Like he doesn't have to sell it. If it's this
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: big old conspiracy where you truly believe in this biofuel,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: then why wouldn't you like find a way to find
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: another company that could buy it?
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: If your dad's just selling it for money. Hidden Treasures
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: and Overboard moments. I do think there is hidden treasures
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: in here. I do think differently looking through the twenty
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: twenty six lens compared to twenty ten Seawan, right, Like
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: the lens is different, like I'm putting it on a scope,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: and I like where they break down, like some of
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: the oil prices and just divaulsing into Rockefeller. I think
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: it's always good to throw Rockefeller's name out there and
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: big Oil, But I do have a lot more overboard moment,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: so I'll let you go with the hidden treasures first.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I mean the mention of Rockefeller and Standard Oil is
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the biggest hidden I guess hidden so hidden, like if
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you haven't heard about Rockefeller and oil companies being a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: thing yet. But anyways, that was big. And then I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: do like that it does kind of give you a
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: reference for all the different claims of people that said
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: that they've made cars that add hundreds or thousands of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: miles of you know, per gallon efficiency, or could run
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: it on vapor, could run it on water. You kind
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of get a decent index of all those different claims
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: early on in this movie. So that's and then also
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: one of the experts that they have on the screen
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: is a kid from Mighty Ducks, so you know, whatever
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: he says has got to be true.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: And then in the overboard moments, obviously the easy low
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: hanging through the beginning. This is maybe a hidden treasure
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: as well, depending on how you look at it. This
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: beginning propaganda of climate change, This is the beginning seeds.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: And obviously at the time I had not really thinking
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: about it. I know they were talking about because at
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: that time it was still global warming I think right,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: it wasn't fully labeled and branded as climate change. It
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: was hey man, it's gonna be so hot, we're all
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: gonna die. Now it's climate change, where it could be anything.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: You see the seeds being planted. And then when they
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: go to the solution, which I have no problem with
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: electric cars, but they didn't propose any of the problems
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: that that may as well bring us. Like even to
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: this day twenty twenty six, people can't answer the question,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: like what happens if everybody goes electric? What happens to
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: the power grid? I mean, I have some speculations what
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: will happen, And I'm thinking that where I'm headed is
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: pretty close because our infrastructure is not great. So if
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: everybody comes off work at five pm and plugs in
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: their car, which we will probably see in California shortly,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: because I know they're supposed to be in twenty thirty.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Everybody's supposed to have electric vehicles. You're probably gonna lose
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: power all the time. So they don't talk about any
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: of the problems. They just say make it paint as
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: their solution is the answer because big, big oil suppressing
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: and when there's probably like a middle ground. I've always
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: personally thought like they should have stick with like the hybrids, right,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: partially electric, partially gas. Get it on the best, but no,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: each side is like no, you either go this way
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: or that way.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Also, some of the claims that they make, like.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: The thousand miles per gallon, they don't super prove it
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: to me. They're like, yeah, this guy, look there's this documentary.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: All right, there it goes and you're like Golden.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Deeps wrote about in the paper in nineteen seventy three. Look,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't just write this two paragraph article if this
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't true and there was no pictures or proved for
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: evidence or anything else.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just believe them.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: And that's like throughout this film, you get a lot
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: of that like it just you gotta take my word
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: for my my grandpath.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: You wouldn't lie to me, right, That's what you kind
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: of get in this.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And it's it's such a binary true or false thing.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Either you can make an engine that does this or
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you can't. Right, And I'm not gonna go on a
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: whole tangent on like how batteries and like it. You
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: don't fix a battery, you replace a battery. Well, now
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that battery is how in nature, you know, like some
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: dolphins gonna choke on a battery at some point, Like
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you're you're swapping one problem for another. But so my
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: overborn moments have nothing to even do with what they're
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: suggesting as solutions. So the biggest one, actually I don't
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: even know if I can put them in order. Biggest
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: They all have their own problems. So one of the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: problems is they're talking about how Standard Oil was doing
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: these unfair business practices where they would sell their oil
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: for less than they could even get it for uced
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: they would lose money on selling it just to put
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: their competition on a business. Because if I'm losing a
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: doll dollar on everything I sell and I'm the best
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: at it, and the biggest, and I know you're going
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to be losing three or four dollars and if I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: can keep that up for months or years, you're just
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: going to use all your savings, all your everything go
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: out of business. And then after you're out of business,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: then I can hike my prices back up to what
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: they should have been. And it's like, this is horrible
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and this is anti trust, Like, dude, do you not
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: use Amazon? Like Amazon literally does this to every major product.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: They'll oh, toilet paper is selling really, well, hell, we
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: should make our own toilet paper and sell it for
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: cheaper than Like that literally happened. You know how Uber
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: works at a loss where they lose money in order
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to make sure that you order their their service, and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: then once delivery drivers stop being able to get jobs,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: then they're like, Okay, well now we're going to hike
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the price up. And there's no other like this happens
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: in every single industry. It's always been happening. It's never
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: not going to happen, So none of that's unique to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the oil industry. The other big one, too, is that,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: as I'm why if you were watching this in twenty
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: ten and you're on this like they killed the electric
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: car because a big old oil and bush and you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Halliburton and all this, Then you might miss the logic
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: on like bro It's engines are way more than in
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: just cars, right, Like anything that needs to generate energy
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: is using either ural fossil, natural oil, natural gas oils.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: They're using pro pain, they're using all this technology. If
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: there was something out there that let you get one
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: hundred miles per gallon on water, that would be used
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: in every factory across everywhere, like it would be used everywhere,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: like right now, even in twenty twenty six. The way
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that they're doing like AI training and they spin up
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: graphics cards and they do all this calculation and stuff like.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: That's also not using water. You don't think that China
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be like generating AI data off water if there
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: was a cheaper way to do it. They don't care
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: about pollution, and they're still using the same thing. So
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: all of that was kind of an overboard for me
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: because none of it gets addressed at any point. None
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of the claims they make these one hundred two hundred
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: mile per gallon engines from the thirties and seventy none
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: of those you see any evidence of other than like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: here's an image of some patents. I look those patents up.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: There's people that have tried to reproduce it and they're
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: just not efficient. And then at the end they start
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: making this pitch towards biodiesel and they're like, here's the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: new way. It's it's biodiesel, it's clean, it's efficient, or
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: reusing our waste, it's better for the environment. None of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that's true, right, Biodiesel is not better for the environment.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: It still creates particulates that are going to go and
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: clog some squirrel's eyes somewhere, right, Like, animals still die
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the same way. It still has the same inefficiencies. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: as soon as they lead to that conclusion, my first
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: thought was like, bro, what about the thousand mile per
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: gallon water engine? Like why are you saying, like, look,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: here's the best way to fight the system is to
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: get that same twenty miles per gallon on French fry
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: oil versus Hey, what about that two hundred mile per
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: gallon thing that create no ways? Like, why aren't we
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: hyper fixating on that? Why are we talking about French fries.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: And you don't have one person with the built engine.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: When we've seen and heard throughout the internet ages of
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: like this guy died, like the one of the shootings
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: in I think Buffalo and the grocery store where the
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: guy did a mass shooting and killed people. That're like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: you didn't know that one of those guys he had
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: a water engine. And I'm always certain I've seen people
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: build it online, like you could watch it. But I'm like,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: you couldn't even give us an example. You couldn't even
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: throw in fool us around. This is twenty ten, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: you couldn't have an engine a little bit running off water.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, dang, that is true.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: And if you think they couldn't make money off of it,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: you think they wouldn't sell it to the military industrial complex.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: You think they're not gonna have tanks that could just
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: like go so fast on like the little amount of
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: oil and run for days on end. They would love
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: that man. Then they could they could take everything they wanted.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: So yeah, there's a lot of holes in their story.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: And this is like a socialist nut job climate change seating,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: cloud seating.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see if you think this is
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: a sink or a swim.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: It's about that time, sink or swim.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm not just saying this because this show is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: sponsored literally by the Shell Corporation, which I'm contractually obligated
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to mention is the eighteen ninety Royal Dutch petroleum company
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that then turned into eighteen ninety seven Shell Transport Company,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: which owns Jiffy Lou, Pennzoil, and Quaker State. They all
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: sound really American, right, Well, it's a Dutch company. The
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: logo represents sun worship. It's actually the sun coming over
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the horizon. It's not a Shell the funny, it's called
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the Shell Company. Anyways, they sponsor this show, so I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: have to give this one a sink, otherwise they'll kill
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: me for me.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I like some of the aspects.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I think like you can get with like the Rockefeller
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: and the big oil company. He's like, there is some
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: good information there. It's like you gotta dig for it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: My problem is, if it was twenty ten, Shawn, it
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: would be a swim, probably because I would be so
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: hyped up.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I was young, partying and I'm like, you can't believe
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: big oils taking over everything.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: But now being twenty twenty six, I gotta give it
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: a sink. I just think that it fails to meet
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: the requirements that we're looking for, and it's more of
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: a propaganda puff piece if you really think about it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: It's not something that I'm going to suggest to somebody
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: because I think it would lead them down the wrong road.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Even though there is information and kernels in there they
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: could get. I think people will get swept back into
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: it and be like, see, that's why we should have
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: been electric cars years ago, and they don't. They're not
• 28:42
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