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This Isn’t Old Man Music: Kool & The Gang · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I Am all in.
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Speaker 2: You.
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Speaker 1: This Isn't Old Man Music with Scott Patterson Everything You've
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Speaker 1: ever wanted to know about the music of Gilmour Girls.
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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all of Them Podcast
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Speaker 1: one eleven Productions. iHeartRadio Media, iHeart podcast. This Isn't Old
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Speaker 1: Man Music, Episode two, and I have a very very
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Speaker 1: special guest, the one and only founder of Cool and
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Speaker 1: the Gang, Robert cool Bell. Welcome, Robert. Let me tell
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Speaker 1: everybody a little bit about your accomplishments, and buckle up everybody,
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Speaker 1: because it's gonna take a while. He's a co founder, leader,
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Speaker 1: and master bassist for the legendary Grammy winning rock and
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Speaker 1: roll Hall of famers Cool and the Gang. Cool and
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Speaker 1: his family emigrated to Jersey City, New Jersey, in the
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Speaker 1: early sixties. Shortly thereafter, Cool and his brother Ronald joined
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Speaker 1: neighborhood friends Spike Mickens, Dennis Thomas, Ricky Westfield, George Brown,
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Speaker 1: and Charles Smith to create a distinctive musical blend of jazz,
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Speaker 1: soul and funk. At first calling Spells the Jazzy Acts,
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Speaker 1: and the band went through various name changes, New Dimension,
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Speaker 1: the Sole Town Band, and Cool in the Flames before
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Speaker 1: settling on Cool in the Gang, nineteen sixty eight multi
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Speaker 1: platinum selling group. The most sampled band of all time,
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Speaker 1: Cool in the Gang has sold over Get This eighty
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Speaker 1: million albums worldwide and influencing music of generations with twenty
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Speaker 1: five top ten R and B hits, nine top ten
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Speaker 1: pop hits, at thirty one gold and platinum albums. Classics
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Speaker 1: include the one and Only Jungle Boogie which I just
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Speaker 1: figured out on my guitar, Hollywood Swinging Ladies' Night, and
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Speaker 1: the number one hit Celebration. The band were recently inducted
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Speaker 1: into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Cool's business
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Speaker 1: ventures include a successful Lay Cool Champagne uh and, with
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Speaker 1: his departed wife Sekina I hope I got that pronounce
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Speaker 1: Yester right, it co founded a nonprofit music education initiative,
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Speaker 1: the Cool Kids Foundation, which is currently overseen by his sons,
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Speaker 1: Haquem and Mohammad. Just such a pleasure to have you, Robert,
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming. And what do you
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Speaker 1: remember most about those early days in Jersey City when
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Speaker 1: when Cool in the Gang was just getting started well.
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Speaker 2: In Jersey City and also downtown on the Village of
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Speaker 2: New York. We used to play and uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: they dropped a little money in the basket, you know
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Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Who were young having fun at
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Speaker 2: the time. And then we ended up working over the
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Speaker 2: Cafe WA in New York where on weekends every Saturday
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Speaker 2: and Sunday they were having they call who Danny And
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Speaker 2: that's one different groups like Richie Havens and other artists
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Speaker 2: were like Starist, but we was like the young artist
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Speaker 2: going up. So that was the early days working in
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Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey. And then we used to
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Speaker 2: work in New Jersey. We came up with the name
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Speaker 2: the Jazzy Acts, and uh we were into jazz. My
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Speaker 2: brothers into John Coltrane, d T was Canniball Alley, George Phi,
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Speaker 2: Philly Jones, Charles West Mctgummy Spike was then too, uh
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Speaker 2: you have it, and Ricus Herbie Hancott. Yeah, jazz and
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Speaker 2: I played based. I was with us excuse me on
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Speaker 2: Carlon jamieson some of the other basics right right.
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Speaker 1: For those of you listening who do not know, jazz
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Speaker 1: was very prevalent in the seventies, especially on the East Coast.
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Speaker 1: I used to spend weekends up in New York City,
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Speaker 1: My sister was living with a with her boyfriend up there,
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Speaker 1: and so I used to spend summers up there, and
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Speaker 1: I used to come up on weekends as well during
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Speaker 1: school sometimes, and the jazz clubs were filled with great players.
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Speaker 1: Cafe you mentioned Cafe Wah. I know that was a
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Speaker 1: very famous spot. Tell us a little bit about Cafe
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Speaker 1: wa and some of the legends that used to frequent
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Speaker 1: that place.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like Ritchie Havens mil came. He played drums. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: a lot of different lot it was a fun day.
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Speaker 2: Was on Sunday, right, Okay. I learned how to play
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Speaker 2: at the bass after my bullet told me you should
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Speaker 2: try to play the basement this one song, uh as
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Speaker 2: Caffrey walk now Spike Mickens brother play guitar. So I
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Speaker 2: learned how to play one song on one string. It
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Speaker 2: was called coming Home Baby, and all you have to
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Speaker 2: do is go up and down the East Ring. And
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Speaker 2: so when I replanted, I said, well don't you try
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Speaker 2: to playing that one song? I would bout that guy's
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Speaker 2: base and I did, and that was the beginning of
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Speaker 2: my bass plan.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well you started banding out playing jazz, uh,
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Speaker 1: how did that evolve in the funk and then the
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Speaker 1: soul sound.
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Speaker 2: We know today, well we're playing jazz. But when we
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Speaker 2: started playing for what happened was there was an organization
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Speaker 2: in Jersey City, Uh we called so the Souletown Review.
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Speaker 2: They were trying to be like the Motown Review. So
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Speaker 2: we became the Soultoime band, and we would have to
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Speaker 2: learn the various RV song mostly Motown songs, you know,
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Speaker 2: and that's how the jazz kind of kind of transmitted transits.
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Speaker 2: This is into the trying this into RV side.
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Speaker 1: Cooley Gang has been sampled by so many artists from
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Speaker 1: hip hop to pop, you name it. Do you have
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Speaker 1: a favorite sample of one of your songs?
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Speaker 2: I would say some of the Madness because Will Smith
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Speaker 2: came up with Summer Time, went platinum with number one,
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Speaker 2: and became a movie star. Right. There's others, I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, try called Quest the sample of music, a
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Speaker 2: lot of other groups sample of music, but that one
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Speaker 2: Coon sticks out some.
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Speaker 1: Of Madness and is the idea behind that song. There's
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Speaker 1: no lyrics, it's just this beautiful, easy listening song. What
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Speaker 1: inspired that song?
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Speaker 2: It started off with a song called you Don't Have
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Speaker 2: to Change Mike Mickens wrote that song and at the
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Speaker 2: end of the song there was a vam and my
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Speaker 2: brother was in the studio one day. He said, you
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Speaker 2: know that vamp. I want to work with that van
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Speaker 2: and uh. He had just got the art synthesizer, so
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Speaker 2: he was in there fooling around with it. And that
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Speaker 2: part that you talked about that and then that became
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Speaker 2: some of Madness because Spike said, oh he was gay,
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Speaker 2: all right. I told me we'll call this. He said, well, well,
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Speaker 2: let's call it some of badness. So we didn't know
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Speaker 2: that song was gonna be called the Smell it ca.
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Speaker 2: I mean the movie Rocket, Uh, sevests the onest thing
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Speaker 2: there across the big the box that have a fight
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Speaker 2: that next day, and he listened to he listened to
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Speaker 2: some of that, right, So I went from there to
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Speaker 2: Will Smith to a lot of people, a lot of
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Speaker 2: samples on some of that.
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Speaker 1: Yes, So let's talk about celebration that was in the
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Speaker 1: season finale of Gilmore Girls, and it's such a timeless anthem. Uh,
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Speaker 1: did you know that it would become or had the
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Speaker 1: potential to become the ultimate party song when you were
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Speaker 1: recording it. Did the producer say anything like, guys, this
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Speaker 1: thing is just gonna go big. Everybody's gonna want to
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Speaker 1: play this song at their wedding parties and birthdays and
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Speaker 1: things like that. Did you guys have any inkling, Well, we.
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Speaker 2: Really didn't know. The journey started off with Ladies Night. Ladies'
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Speaker 2: Night was when my wife and I was hanging out
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Speaker 2: in New York and JG had just joined the band,
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Speaker 2: and we were at two of fifty four and Regimes
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Speaker 2: and some of the hotspots in New York, and we
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Speaker 2: realized that Friday nights the weekend with the Ladies Night.
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Speaker 2: So I went back to the guys. I said, wow,
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Speaker 2: you know it's a Ladies Night on the weekends in
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Speaker 2: New York. And my brother said, wow, there's a Ladies'
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Speaker 2: Night all over the world. So anyway, fast forward, so
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Speaker 2: we did Ladis Night. We end up doing two, were
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Speaker 2: getting two American music wars. I'll know it a Ladies Night.
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Speaker 2: The end of Ladies Night, this is your night tonight,
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Speaker 2: come on, it's all celebrate. My brother, Oh there's another song,
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Speaker 2: and he got together and came up with this concept. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Uh he played for us and they had that down
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Speaker 2: Hall Field to it, you know, uh, and uh that's
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Speaker 2: how he came up with the celebration part of it all.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's how Celebration was created. Not knowing we
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Speaker 2: thought Ladles, you know new Thayer, We thought that that
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Speaker 2: would be big. It was, but Celebration top of them all.
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Speaker 1: So of all the hits, which song still feels the
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Speaker 1: best to play live after all these years?
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Speaker 2: Best to play live?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Well, two sections one one section of I show I
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Speaker 2: call it the gang a session. That's when we do
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Speaker 2: John Go Boogie into Hollywood swing. No, we start with
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Speaker 2: funky stuff jungle boogie until Holly was swinging and the
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Speaker 2: story around that. With the record coman, he told us said, listen,
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Speaker 2: you guys are not really you got territorial hits. There's
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Speaker 2: a producer out there and there's a record out there
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Speaker 2: that's song Solvacusa, Mango DeMarco and their producer. They said okay,
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Speaker 2: So we had a meeting with him. We weren't filling him.
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Speaker 2: So we went down the baggage downtown New York and
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Speaker 2: we went in the studio about here o'clock in the morning,
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Speaker 2: and when we finished, we had created Bunky shir John
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Speaker 2: Go Boogie in Hollywood Swinging. Now John Go Boogie went
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Speaker 2: the top five. I believe Holly was swinging with also
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Speaker 2: in the top five the Funkys there for number one,
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Speaker 2: R and B for about seven weeks. So when we
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Speaker 2: play on our show, we played that part jungle boogie,
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Speaker 2: funcky stuff, jungle boogie. How I was swinging. The crowd
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Speaker 2: is up, then we slow down, go a little bit
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Speaker 2: of chairs, a little bit of summer madness, and then
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Speaker 2: we come back with Ladies Night. Get down on it
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Speaker 2: in celebration. If you ain't got the people moving by
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Speaker 2: then those three will get you up out of your seat.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, you will get up.
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Speaker 2: You know two errors there, right, answer your question?
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Speaker 1: Right? So you got the van. Just got inducted into
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Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame last year. Tell
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Speaker 1: us if you will, what that moment meant to you personally?
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Speaker 2: Well me personally, I feel very good about that. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: we all wanted to be in the Wackall Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: All my members have passed, my brother George Brown, all
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Speaker 2: of them. I was the last minute then so and
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Speaker 2: then of doing the song with JG. But the thing
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Speaker 2: about it was that, you know, we had tour with
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Speaker 2: Elton John. We have been told Elton John Brother, Roger Stewart,
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Speaker 2: uh and we did the four year shows with Van Halen,
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Speaker 2: ten shows with kid Ron, Dave matthews Man. He said,
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Speaker 2: all rock and roll any it called the rock and
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Speaker 2: Roll Hall Fan. I was born in Yukstown and Cleveland
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Speaker 2: was right up the street. So I said, how did
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Speaker 2: I give us no love? I ask you a question.
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Speaker 2: They finally came and gave us some love. That's what
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Speaker 2: I felt about that.
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Speaker 1: It is amazing that it took so long, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: Yes? It is.
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Speaker 1: It really is amazing, really is amazing. Why do you
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Speaker 1: think that is? Why do you think that it took
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Speaker 1: so long to intuct you in the rock and Roll
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Because it was it wasn't pure rock.
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Speaker 1: I mean the umbrella is pretty wide with the rock
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Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. Why do you think it
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Speaker 1: took so long?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you have the fans who vote for you,
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Speaker 2: and then you have these decision makers. So the behind
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Speaker 2: the scene guys is one of the big and final
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Speaker 2: of decision you know, because I mean you had like
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Speaker 2: try call well not of course, a couple of hip
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Speaker 2: hop acts Step was in the Alcohol Hall of Fame,
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Speaker 2: A couple other acts. But we're trying to figure out, well,
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Speaker 2: why do you think it's so long for us? That's
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Speaker 2: a good question.
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Speaker 1: Your songs are among the most recognized, instantly recognizable songs
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Speaker 1: in the history of modern music and jazz. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it is confounding, isn't it. It is really confounding. And
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Speaker 1: by the way, one thing when when I was re
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Speaker 1: listening to your songs before having you come on, is
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Speaker 1: the the intros to your song. The instrumental intros to
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Speaker 1: your song are brilliant. They're just they're like hooks in
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Speaker 1: and of themselves, so you know exactly what the song is,
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Speaker 1: you know exactly where you're going. You guys set up
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Speaker 1: a song better than anyone I've ever heard. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's really a question to ponder why it took so long.
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Speaker 1: It's just it's just amazing to me, just just astounding.
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Speaker 1: I mean, these are easily the most recognizable songs in
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Speaker 1: the world over the past fifty years.
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Speaker 2: All of the things, let's cut you off, is that
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Speaker 2: my mother should tell me, brother this. You always have
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Speaker 2: to come up with a melody that people can't remember,
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Speaker 2: you know, And you thought about that, and when you
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Speaker 2: look at what you know, then you got. Damn you
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Speaker 2: go to a circuit or whatever you can remember and
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Speaker 2: come up with memorable hooks.
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Speaker 1: What you just said, Yeah, just incredible. And when you
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Speaker 1: hear them, it's like you think, well, why didn't I
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Speaker 1: think of that? Well, it's because you didn't think of that.
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Speaker 1: It's it's just like they seem so simple, but they're
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Speaker 1: so difficult to come up with.
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Speaker 2: They are.
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Speaker 1: How would you describe, uh, the creative creative relationship between
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Speaker 1: you and your brother Ronald over the years. How did
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Speaker 1: that dynamic work inside the band? Were you guys the
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Speaker 1: principal songwriters?
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Speaker 2: Well, my brother in terms of the horns, all the
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Speaker 2: horn lives, that's what my brother came up with. Wow,
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Speaker 2: you know. And then uh, you got Charles. Now Charles
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Speaker 2: he was a Western gummy guy, you know. And you
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Speaker 2: hear that thumb Sunston too hot now, George rout it okay,
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Speaker 2: So all of different slavers. It was all about what
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Speaker 2: cooling gangs about. It was hard to give us the
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Speaker 2: title so well the full the R and B or
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Speaker 2: this is this and now they're pop, But we did Johanna,
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Speaker 2: Oh then they were too bubble of them now, Johanna
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Speaker 2: the bouncing ball We did what we felt. We wasn't
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Speaker 2: looking into what people would say about us. We had
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Speaker 2: a song called Coachy Junkie in a Country Junkie. So
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Speaker 2: we just did what we felt. We didn't tell to
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Speaker 2: go by what people say, well we should be, We
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Speaker 2: just didn't and it helped us a listen for that.
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Speaker 1: So it seems like when I'm listening to these songs,
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Speaker 1: the musical i Q of the band members is so high.
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Speaker 1: Did you did all of you guys study uh composition?
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Speaker 1: Did you study jazz or did you just grow up
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Speaker 1: listening to jazz and have this sort of innate talent
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Speaker 1: to incorporate it into your music? Which one?
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Speaker 2: We grew up listening to jazz, listening to R and
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Speaker 2: B and uh. We told each other, like Charles, my
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Speaker 2: guitar player, just show me here's a little line. But
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Speaker 2: it's a line. Uh, the Halls would do something intil
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Speaker 2: hobby to play it or whatever, or Mickey West. It
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Speaker 2: was just it was imagic that, you know, hard to
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Speaker 2: explain right what we would do. I mean, he's talking
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Speaker 2: about left the music, mind, love and understanding and who's
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Speaker 2: gonna take the weight? That's all different scenarios there. Who's
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Speaker 2: gonna take the weight. That's the whole story. Yeah, so
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Speaker 2: we were blessed for that. And then like with Ladies
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Speaker 2: Night and uh pobs about George and the girlfriend they
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Speaker 2: broke up seven feel high schools. He goes, that's all
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Speaker 2: by himself because he's the only one one to that.
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Speaker 2: So that's how you know, opens opens. Yeah, every fun
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Speaker 2: and fire that was like had the dominant horn you know,
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Speaker 2: yeah fire horn line, you know, and you compete with that.
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Speaker 2: So my brother came up with an idea and that
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Speaker 2: was what open. He said, We're gonna keep it on
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Speaker 2: the dance vibe, We're gonna swing it, but we're gonna
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Speaker 2: compete with whoever's out there. That that said, people say,
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Speaker 2: who couldn't even play that? What is they playing? What
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Speaker 2: is that end up being? In Saturday Night Fever sold
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Speaker 2: over twenty million, a record until Michael Jackson came along
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Speaker 2: with Dweller's Got's a Blessing? What can I say?
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Speaker 1: H Let me ask you this, when when you look
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Speaker 1: at how Funk and R and B have evolved, what
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Speaker 1: do you think is the biggest influence Cooling the Gang
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Speaker 1: left on the artists of today.
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Speaker 2: Well, I would say a style of thought when you
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Speaker 2: sounds like someone just asked me about that. At the
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Speaker 2: other day, Funcky Glenny said, what the hell is monkey Glenny?
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Speaker 2: Monky man? All those facts see it to an equility
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Speaker 2: breeds in soul. We just mixed it up UK with
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Speaker 2: a lot of bands. Study what we did. You know
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Speaker 2: I got I have to take my head off. George Clinton,
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Speaker 2: he calls us the master of the p phon and
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Speaker 2: we were the master of the p pong too. But
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Speaker 2: we can go out to the cherish. I wouldn't go
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Speaker 2: into rush. Oh we can go into too hot. We
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Speaker 2: can go into emergency. Rey Kaye's answer, You know, we.
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Speaker 1: Just did what we fell just a bunch of really
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Speaker 1: talented players putting it together in rehearsal and coming up
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Speaker 1: with great stuff. Huh. How often did you rehearse in
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Speaker 1: the early days did you Were you rehearsing all the time.
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Speaker 2: In earlier days? Yeah, yeah, put it all together right. Uh.
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Speaker 2: And the latter days on the road, we would do
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Speaker 2: like rehearsal at soundcheck. The soundcheck was almost like a rehearsal, sure,
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Speaker 2: and certain songs came from a soundcheck, like Reggae Danson
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Speaker 2: soundcheck and my other brother Mia started playing that little track,
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Speaker 2: you know, and then we came up with everybody was
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Speaker 2: just you know, uh chime in and then they're like,
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Speaker 2: oh lah, check it. You know, it was magic that
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Speaker 2: just happened. And that's what happened.
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Speaker 1: You also have an incredible foundation, the Cool Kids Foundation.
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Speaker 1: What kind of impact you seeing through the music education
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Speaker 1: programs your family runs.
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Speaker 2: But what happened was my wife, who up passed eight
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Speaker 2: years ago, she asked me, how come they don't have
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Speaker 2: music in the schools. So I was on the road
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Speaker 2: a lot, so I thought about it, and she was
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Speaker 2: doing trying to put something together locally, and uh, I said, well,
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Speaker 2: you you know what I said. When we were coming
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Speaker 2: up through grammar school, there was music in the school,
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Speaker 2: there were music teachers. You go in and uh yeah,
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Speaker 2: you uh pick up an instrument and you take it
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Speaker 2: home and etcetera extension that wasn't happening. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: had a melophone. I said, I ain't messing with that.
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Speaker 2: That's the one like a French hall. I said, I'll
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Speaker 2: bust my lip all of them. I took the violin.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't quite get into that. Couldn't quite get into that,
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Speaker 2: you know, I remember the base but one music was
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Speaker 2: in school. School. So that's when I came up with
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Speaker 2: a concept. Idea said called school to stay is cool?
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Speaker 2: Excuse me to stay in school? Chilli Coke get to
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Speaker 2: the table. I said, yeah, we like to prom was that?
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Speaker 2: So we did forty two City four and all those
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Speaker 2: kids that had good grades and uh nothing playing not playing,
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Speaker 2: I hope you from school and all that stuff. We
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Speaker 2: would meet them on the meet and greet and after
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Speaker 2: them and at the meet and greet, uh, four guys
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Speaker 2: came up to us and said, yeah, we're doing good
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Speaker 2: in school, but we want to sing something. And so
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Speaker 2: I said, okay, we listen, and they did a cappella
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Speaker 2: on four songs. You know that group became colored me bad,
24:41
Speaker 2: I want to sex you up. All that was about
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Speaker 2: the school thing. So that's what my wife wanted to
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Speaker 2: bring back so far. Next year will be our seventh
24:51
Speaker 2: Cool Kids Foundation. We're donating knowing into the schools, the
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Speaker 2: marching bands. Uh that's the whole thing about Cool Kids Foundation.
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Jungle Boogie. Tell tell
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Speaker 1: me about how that jam came about, because that is
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Speaker 1: just deadly. That is just the most lethal piece of music.
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Speaker 1: I think coming out one of the most lethal pieces
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Speaker 1: of music coming out of the seventies. It's just so
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Speaker 1: incredibly rich. How'd that happen?
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Speaker 2: We were under pressure. The record company came to us
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Speaker 2: and said, yeah, you guys got territorial hits Connecticut, maybe Virginia,
25:29
Speaker 2: Jersey and the Soma. So we'd say, Okay, we're gonna
25:37
Speaker 2: create our own so not that we're trying to do with,
25:42
Speaker 2: but there is and the Prussia we will song about.
25:47
Speaker 2: Let get your back of all the wall? How bad
25:49
Speaker 2: was on the wall? Okay, that's how y'all feel? And
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Speaker 2: Joe Oboden was the first one check this out, came
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Speaker 2: over them all line, we came up with it all
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Speaker 2: came together. It wasn't like a complicated song with a
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Speaker 2: lot of lyric ability.
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Speaker 1: It was no, it was you didn't need it with
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Speaker 1: with that riff, you just need to repeat it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was We have fun play.
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Speaker 1: And when do you play that in your set? And
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Speaker 1: what is the reaction in the crowd when you play that?
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Speaker 1: When do you usual? Where do you have that on
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Speaker 1: the set list?
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Speaker 2: Close to the middle of the set?
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Speaker 1: Middle?
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Speaker 2: Okay, when we go to the funk stuff. We played
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Speaker 2: funky stuff, jungle boogie, Hollywood swing, you know, and we
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Speaker 2: got them and that's that's the funky side. Then we
26:43
Speaker 2: go through some of that and then we come to
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Speaker 2: the end. But yeah, they really those songs. Sometimes a
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Speaker 2: song and in the biggests something else. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, people tell you after the show, like like
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Speaker 1: when you guys went into jungle boogie, that was like
26:59
Speaker 1: a moment for me, you know, right swinging to right.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So when when you look.
27:08
Speaker 1: Back on well not you let me rephrase this. When
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Speaker 1: people look back on cool in the Gang, let's say
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Speaker 1: one hundred years from now, what do you hope they
27:19
Speaker 1: remember Robert.
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Speaker 2: Well, some young guys from Jersey City coming up to
27:27
Speaker 2: JAD coming up through a R and B p H.
27:32
Speaker 2: We'll go to pop. Actually they call those pop outs,
27:38
Speaker 2: you know, I mean top ten pop records, you know,
27:41
Speaker 2: and it's like, I guess, slice it in something, Well,
27:46
Speaker 2: you can make it if you try. We never gave up.
27:49
Speaker 2: That's the same thing with the cool kids. You can
27:52
Speaker 2: become somebody. That's what the foundation is about, right, That's
27:56
Speaker 2: why we help them because a lot of the programs
27:57
Speaker 2: are not in school anymore. Right, So that kind of
28:01
Speaker 2: a thing. Uh. We had songs like Love and Understanding,
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Speaker 2: which was a big record for us, and uh, you
28:10
Speaker 2: know you need more love today, you need more understanding today.
28:17
Speaker 2: Look at what we're dealing with today. We had a
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Speaker 2: song called music is the Message that sings universal love
28:25
Speaker 2: for what and all. We were dropping some messages there.
28:29
Speaker 2: They were all about bump, you're closer, saying that's what
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Speaker 2: I want people to know.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful. So you're on tour, tell me what we can
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Speaker 1: expect and where we can see you.
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Speaker 2: Well, we just did thirty days in Europe just past
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Speaker 2: July and August, and we're going out again next year.
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Speaker 2: And h we have a concept I do anyway, the
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Speaker 2: Cool Champagne and I have to do with Akatron watches
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Speaker 2: the Cool Champagne and Akatron possesses the Cooling game Rock
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Speaker 2: the World Tour and I got a part to it.
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Speaker 2: What I want to do ten classical shows, a classic
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Speaker 2: evening with cool in the game. Because we've played with
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Speaker 2: Philemon books, so we want to pick ten cities. Well,
29:28
Speaker 2: we bring on sixty piece office. Wow. Also because we've
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Speaker 2: done them already, Wow, we want to do them again.
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Speaker 1: Next year coming to California. You're coming to Southern California.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we played with down Walk down there with orchestra.
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Speaker 1: All right, we gotta come out and see you if
29:46
Speaker 1: you come to Southern California, we gotta come out and
29:48
Speaker 1: see you because that would be an incredible show. And yeah,
29:52
Speaker 1: you also have your your lay cool Champagne. Uh where
29:57
Speaker 1: can people get this?
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Speaker 2: Well, right now, you can get it online who Champagne
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Speaker 2: dot com. Well it's sanatorial as who get into Champagne
30:10
Speaker 2: in different states? Right now? We have a new Jersey,
30:15
Speaker 2: we have Florida. We're working back again in Ohio, Las Vegas.
30:23
Speaker 2: You know, we're building the market.
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Speaker 1: Robert, thank you so much for taking the time talking
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Speaker 1: to us. You are a legend and Cooling the Gang
30:34
Speaker 1: is probably the coolest band coming out of the seventies.
30:38
Speaker 1: Just incredible music, incredible guys, and uh and thank you
30:43
Speaker 1: for all you do and keep doing it. And that's
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Speaker 1: going to wrap us here on on this segment. And uh,
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Speaker 1: Robert cool Bell, thank you Sarah for joining us, and
30:56
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