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Eighth Ball · Caught on the Mike...

• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Caught on the Mic.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I am pumped.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_02: I have been talking with my friend Carter about making this happen for a few weeks now.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: So this is gonna be dope.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: Today on the show, I am hanging out with one of the young bands carrying the Southern California reggae ska and punk tradition into a new generation.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: Eighth Ball came together through surfing, friendship, and a shared love of bands like Sublime and Bad Brains.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: And they've already gone from local shows to the Sublime Fest stage.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Now, with new music coming and sunburnt behind them, they're taking their shot.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Eighth Ball.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: I am joined by Chris and Carter, and Gabe's gonna be joining us at some point.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_02: How the hell are you guys?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: Great, Mike.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: How are you doing, man?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, I am so pumped.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: I I can't wait to hear the new single.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna talk about that here in a few moments.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_02: But let's let's start at the beginning.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: You guys literally met while surfing.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: Take me back to that moment how a group of guys met in the water, eventually became a band that became Eatball.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I've known Chris for probably like five years now.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: We met at a gas station.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: I've I had a surfboard in my car, and he like came up to me.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: There's like a mutual friend there.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Oh, I like your board.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: And we started jamming.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: He taught me like everything I know pretty much about music to that to besides like open chords that I already knew.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: Playing really playing a guitar, he taught me everything, and we became friends, and we were trying to kind of start a band for a while, and uh we were looking for a drummer.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna play bass, he was gonna play guitar, and my dad sent me this video.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: This is maybe like four years ago now.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: This video, this kid named Roman, who's our drummer, and it's a video that Sublime posted of him like doing a Sublime cover.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: My dad's like, you should hit this guy up to be your drummer.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: At the time, we had no intent of doing like reggae or ska or anything like that.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, Dad, like Sublime's posting this guy, like this guy's like way out of our league to be our drummer.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_05: Straight up.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: And we never hit him up, and that was that.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe about a year later, we were at Bolsa Chica State Beach in Huntington.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, me and Chris paddled out with a bunch of our other friends, and there was friends of friends there.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: And Gabe, who's a singer of Eighth Ball, paddles up to one of our friends.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: He had already kind of like started the groundwork for Eighth Ball.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, nothing much had like happened at that point, but he asked a mutual friend, and he's like, they had kind of like lost a bass member at the time, like who was gonna be the bass member of the band.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, Hey, do you know do you know anyone out here that plays music?
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: He asked my friend Josh, and he goes, Yeah, Chris and Carter down there, and he points down the beach.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: So Gabe, our singer, just paddles up to us in the water.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Hey, what's up, man?
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, heard you guys play music.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what what kind of music do you like?
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: Or I think he asked Chris first.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, What kind of guitar do you play?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, dude.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: He was hitting me up, asked me what kind of music I like to listen to.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: We like we bonded over blues and uh a little bit of sublime, but mainly Gabe and I used to love that Steve Ray Von, like, yeah, scratch sound, and then he kind of had a different relation with Carter.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: He asked me what I like, and I'm like, I gave him a one-word answer.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, sublime.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, dude, you're gonna get like a load of my drummer.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I can't wait for you to see my drummer.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: And we paddle in, we're like hanging out at the car.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: He pulls up this drummer's Instagram, and I'm like, dude, this is so random.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, my dad sent me a video of this guy playing like a year ago, and he was just so taken away, like, dude, this is meant to be like you know who Roman is, you know, like that's like my brother.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I love Roman, blah blah blah.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: And we were wearing like the same outfit too.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: We were wearing like jeans and like a jacket, so we were just tripped out, like just tripping, like, whoa, like we are just so much aligned in the world, and like we're just now meeting, and the rest is history, it's just yeah.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_02: Serendipitous moments, man, they are real.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care where a person falls as far as their belief and faith or whatever it has.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: There, there are two things that I believe in firmly serendipity and karma.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: I think those two things are the most real things in the world.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_02: What you put out in the world is always gonna come back to you, and like things that are meant to be are meant to be.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Chris, I gotta ask.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: This is an off-the-wall question.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: But and I'm just leaning into my own experience as a retired musician myself.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_02: Is this the first time you've had to teach a friend to uh to form a band?
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, definitely.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: It was fun, it was a fun time, dude.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, just being stoked to go and work with your guitar with your mate the whole day, like it just flew by so quick, and it's crazy to see my student just like kicking it, like it's awesome, dude.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: That is that is one of those things.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: I lived in the sticks in the Midwest, and like if I wanted to form a band where I lived, I had to teach people around me.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, all right, you're gonna be my bass player.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is what's called a root note.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_02: Right, a lot of covers, a lot of fun stuff.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_02: Shit, yeah.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_02: So the name Eighth Ball has this idea behind it.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: The last ball on the table is your chance to win or lose it all.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: So you better give it your best shot.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: When you guys started the band, what did that philosophy mean to you?
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: And what does it mean to you now that things are actually happening?
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because we're gonna get into the weeds about some big things that are happening with you guys.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: Gabe kind of came up with that name before meeting us, I think like a month or so before meeting us.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess he was just like sitting, there's this beach in San Clemente.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: There's like train tracks that run right on the beach.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: He was just sitting there, the train went by, he's like, Eighth ball, that's it, I got it, with that idiom or whatever you may call it in his head of like the meaning behind the band name.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: And uh first starting the band, I think we took it in a sense of perseverance and just really trying to give music our best go and about trying to like make it as musicians and like really just being like, wow, like we have like a unique yet familiar sound, and we need to hone in on this.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: And there's there's a community of you know, people like that love this kind of music that you know we could just merge right into and like do great and be successful.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's definitely changed over the past three or four years of us being a band.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think the way we take it now is is definitely more like success is if we're having fun.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, none of us ever thought we would be where we are today, playing alongside some of our idols and and that's with our idols.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: With our idols, yeah.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like opening four, like all of our greatest bands, like just happened this past year, and and I think that is like that's the cap of like success in a sense.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like giving it your all now represents just creatively and and trying to get trying to get creative and and trying to have fun and keep writing process exciting and and new and bringing some new stuff to the table as compared to where we have this drive as like we're gonna do it, we're gonna be, you know, super successful and doing all this crazy stuff.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think it it definitely now represents just having fun and enjoyed in the presence of one another.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: We got a lot of smack for that name.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, a bunch of people thinking that we're a bunch of druggies, shruggies or something like that.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've never done that in my life.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Neither is Chris.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: And uh no disrespect to anyone that has, but but uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: But everybody will hear Eighth Ball and be like, oh, the band.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: Associated in a different way.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_02: Did that ever give you guys a moment of pause where you thought, man, well shit, man, maybe we should change the name?
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when when when we first got introduced, I mean, my dad, a lot of older people I looked up to were like, oh man, like that's that's not that's you know, like you guys should find a new name.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: People are just automatically g gonna assume the wrong thing about you guys.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I think we stuck with it, and I think locally at least as of right now, I think like what Chris said, you hear eighth ball, and you know, you think of you think of us, which is which is cool.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I and I love that idea too of like of being able to like rewrite what people would assume something means, and you know, there's only so many words and phrases and our dictionary and the minds, and you know, we just landed on one and it came preloaded with a logo for us, you know.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: We got like the little eight-ball, didn't even have to do much thinking behind that one.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um but worked out, but yeah, it it worked out.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: It definitely, it definitely did, and I don't I don't ever see it changing now.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, see, band names are a tricky thing, and like you know, kind of getting deep for a moment, talking about the original concept that Gabe had with the meaning behind the name and the serendipitous nature in which you guys came together, and the fact that you're already establishing yourselves and doing some big things under that name, it would be a foolhardy thing to change it at this point.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: And just to give you a personal anecdote, back in the band days when I was playing, I was in this band and I'd had this band going for about four or five years, and we had some serious momentum, but we weren't the same band as we were when we started and established ourselves under that name.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I reached out to a friend of mine, her name's Sophia John.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: She's a programming director here in the Midwest.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_02: She was the manager that discovered Slipknot and got them signed.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, hey, Sophia, I'm thinking about changing the name.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: She said, Don't you do it, don't do it at all.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: Guess what I did?
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: I changed the fucking name and I regretted it almost immediately after doing it because then I had to re-establish myself all over again.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I think you guys are in the right, and that's why I personalized that story for a moment because I think double down on what's already working because it's only going to move you further.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: A big thing, too, I guess, like in recent nature, uh uh an acquaintance to me and Chris too, uh, but a close friend to Gabe, his name was John.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he passed away a few weeks ago.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: And at one of our like first shows ever, it's just in this backyard, there's like a skate bowl.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: All of our homies were skating, we're playing in the backyard.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Someone had like a voice memo on their phone.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: It might have been John or just someone standing near him.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: But in the middle of the recording, you hear him go, eighth motherfucking ball.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: And from that moment on, it that became like a second extension to the name.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like in all of our posts, like we do hashtag EMFB, and we've been doing it for years, and and there's definitely no way now, like that is like cemented into history as like a saying of its own.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: We made some shirts that said emfb on it.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: And and yeah, this, you know, like a a friend that is gone too soon, you know, like he he just impromptly said that solidified it, solidified it in the history.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: So that there's another good reason for us not to you're gonna have to re work that into a recording on a future album.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's funny, uh, we actually are trying to like sound bite just the audio from it, and we're gonna try to line it up with exactly because when he said it, it was in the middle of a song, and just from listening to it so many times over and over, this like voice memo of this backyard show, it's like almost a part of the song.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: So, with with the song, when it gets released, we're gonna try to have it be in the same part of the song where he said it as if it was just so you're listening to like a a better, more mastered and professional version of that backyard show.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: Second version, it definitely will, and it will be his words coming out of his mouth saying that in our song.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: See, there it is, another serendipitous moment right there.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: There's obviously a strong Southern California DNA running through your sound with Sublime Long Beach dub all-stars and bad brains, but you also pull from bands like Led Zeppelin and as you mentioned, Stevie Ray Von.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: What do those rock and blues influences bring to Eighth Ball that you might not get from a straight reggae ska punk approach?
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: This guy's playing all day.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um Led Zeppelin is a shared love between Gabe, Roman, and I.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Carter's, I mean, he he he like he appreciates it, he gets it, but it's not his thing.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um Led Zeppelin is definitely deep in the roots of our sound.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it might be hidden hidden sometimes.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: But a key factor is like Roman's 26-inch bass drum.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's got this big bonzo kit thumping away at every show like in your face.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's like insanely important to our sound.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: And thankfully, John Joseph at San P uh San Pedro perfectly captured it.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: And it's gonna be coming out in our in our new album.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's freaking awesome.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: But um, other than that, you know, I mean, as a bassist, John Paul Jones has always been up there.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: The reason I got my jazz bass.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: Gabe is deep in the roots of Zeppelin too, he got his Les Paul.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: But uh Stevie was mainly on me.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: When uh Carter and I were looking for our bands before Eighth Ball, um, I was listening to a lot of Stevie, and that's how Gabe and I kind of did our thing.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: But definitely now I'd say that the Zeppelin is taking over.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, I tell you, Stevie Ray Bond's Life by the Drop is one of my most favorite songs of all time, and I I think it's terribly underappreciated how good of a song that is.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got my Stratocaster because of Stevie.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: So that's definitely some um inspiration that's in our sound for sure.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: You guys have gone from house shows and local California gigs to playing festivals alongside Sublime and becoming part of this emerging Sunburnt community, which I absolutely love.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: When did you first have that moment of realizing holy shit, we're actually becoming a part of this scene?
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was the first show we we played for Sunburn event.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: It was no guess list in Dana Point.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: And we got a homie, shout out to Cammy, who worked at this venue that they were doing the Sunburn No Guess List uh thing at.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: She worked there, and the they were trying to look for like a local band to put on the bill.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess someone asked Cammy, whoever was organizing it, was like, hey, like, do you know any good local bands that would like supplement the Jacob Noel, his personal project from Sublime very well?
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the way she told the story to me, she was like, it was like a no-brainer.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: She was like, Eighth ball.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Those were the first words that left her mouth.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's the band you need.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta call it work.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: She called me and hit me up, but that was so.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think I think I was in Australia and just like freaking out.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: And we play the show, there's like this, there's like a crazy like origin story to to Eighth Ball and Sunburn and how we are where we're here today.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: It was very rocky, but at the beginning, you know, we get on stage and still to this day, I think that was the best set we had ever played.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think we had it like set in our heads before we were well aware of what Zayn and Jake were doing with Sunburn, and we knew that if there was like any kind of collective or label that like we needed to be a part of, it was gonna be Sunburnt.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: And we probably practiced more in the span of two weeks than we had in like six months prior to that.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and every day just just showed up so hot, killing it.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: We did a sublime song in the middle of the set.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um and STP.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: We did the STP, yeah.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: And Jacob in the middle of the song just ended up like impromptu, like got on stage and sang it with us, which was like a huge moment.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Before that, like I had only like shook his hand, like and like you know, introduced ourselves and you know, told us he told us to have a good show or whatever.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of the song, he there's like videos of it.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: It gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: The adrenaline was he was like, You guys are killing it.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Please sign to my record label on the spot, like on stage, not even halfway done with our set being played, and it was just like, whoa.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like we we just kind of like did what we had like set out to do like with picking up this gig and and yeah, it was it was such a surreal moment.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: I like I like it's it was so surreal it like it lost it like left my mind in a way.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like I can't even close my eyes and think back.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like I could I see like the videos that I've seen of it like super clear, but I can't even think back and like picture it in my head like what I was seeing and hearing with my ears when it happened because it was just like whoa, like that's crazy.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like we knew like there wasn't any better place to be.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, there's there's some some speed bumps, conflict, some conflict that happened that luckily brushed over with Grace, and uh and yeah, we're good.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: We're good, we're here, and that's they're family, completely family.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh boy.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: I I travel with them a lot, um, just for work and stuff, and so um yeah, we're we're all family.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's nothing's changed.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, I want to get into the sunburnt scene a little bit more later on here in our conversation, but I do want to have a little bit of a Zane Jacob Love Fest for just a moment because those two dudes like can make you feel like you're the only person in the room when you're in the moment having a conversation with those guys.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: Totally.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: And like I, you know, I got the the pleasure of hanging out with those dudes at Fiddler's Green back in August.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, oh, you were there?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was there.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: Were you there?
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was there.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm surprised we didn't meet.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I am too, because I met Max and I met like Max and G-Lord.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dude, and and it was just like it was such a good time, and the vibes were so good at that show.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I have been trying to replicate that experience since.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: But like some of my best moments were hanging out with Jake and Zane, and to the point where my wife even made the comment, she's like, I didn't feel like we were hanging out with dudes from Sublime, I felt like we were just hanging out with a group of your friends.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like that is just an amazing feeling, you know.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: I tell I that's like my exact way I've like worded it to so many people is that when I talking about that that first show we did, I wouldn't say I was nervous or like starstruck by either of them, really.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god, look who just arrived.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: The man of the hour.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: I I wasn't necessarily starstruck.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Pull up a chair.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I'm leaving.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: What up, game?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I wasn't I wasn't necessarily starstruck but it going into it, but as soon as we like sat down and had like our first conversation, not even sitting down, just like a passing conversation, like you said, like it just immediately feels like you're talking to a friend that maybe you haven't seen in a while, so you're like kind of catching up, getting to see what each other has been up to lately.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like it felt like that, like a sense of familiarity, and like I fully had their attention and they fully had mine.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't like this big ego where he felt like, oh, I should be backstage talking to talking to whoever, doing whatever.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it just felt so generic, and that's what set the tone for me, like to really like be certain, like wow, like I think Sunburn is the route.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like these are these are genuine people, like these are amazing, genuine people.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: And and you know, Jacob in his own way is like a river to his people, and even besides Eighth Ball, like I've been lucky enough to to travel around with Castle and Sublime and do a lot of their media and stuff because he just wants to put on all his friends.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: He has this like line he'll say live in Incinata sometimes, like during the scratching part.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: He has this like ab lib kind of thing.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't do it in the recording, but he says, When I get on, I put on all my people, and it's so true.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like that guy just wants all of his homies to be involved and like bring all of his homies up with him because he's just a genuine, good, good guy and like cares a lot about cares more so about like good company than about having the best of the best being surrounded by him at all times and like the top of the chart.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: He just cares about having cool, like minded people around.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: We kind of are echoing each other throughout this conversation because what you just said is exactly how I felt after hanging out with the dudes.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, yeah, I was stoked to have Jake on the podcast.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Earlier the summer and get get to know him.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: But after hanging out with he and Zayn and having that experience, I kind of decided that like I am at Sunbird's disposal whenever they want.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like I could have freaking Dave Chappelle on my show, and I'd be like, sorry, Dave, the the Sunbird guys need me.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because these guys are my friends, you know?
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: And and honestly, that's what it boils down to.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's like, who I and I say this out of love.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's like, who gives a shit about the accolades for five minutes?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: Let's and what art somebody's creating.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: If you're a good fucking human being, like you are in my circle, and I hope to God that I'm in yours as well.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: All the music, all the music aside, I would still be friends with those guys if if if it wasn't for music.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: They'd still be my friends, no matter their title or what they're a part of.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: So, Gabe, welcome to the show.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, man.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I'm I'm so so excited to see you here.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm supposed to ask, what is this thing about your triangle?
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, so um but we're uh we're just playing a festival out in we got it right here.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: This is an interesting yes, well we lost a drill bit, but uh when uh you get it now?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_03: So we were playing this festival out in Utah called Electric Honey.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_03: It was rad.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um unfortunately our drummer couldn't make it, but we had our homie Burns fill in, and uh he found this triangle in the back of a uh some like hippie band there, and it was like 2 a.m.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: Bum rushed the stage when one of the DJs was like headlining and whatever.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm sure people were annoyed by it.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_03: I was just fucking there.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'll send I'll send I'll send you some clips so you can overlay because he literally went there's a full-blown DJ, people jumping, he's just on stage.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: Will Farrell and the cowbell bit, but with the triangle?
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, exactly.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_03: But here's what gets real funny.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, did you drip ask?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_04: Um everyone's part.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_04: Did we talk about this part?
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_04: You want to talk about this part?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: Talk to it to an extent.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_03: Basically, long story short, I was hiding in the bushes with this thing afterwards.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like when people were walking back to the campsite, I was jumping up, oh my god!
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_04: And I'd scared the shit out of them.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_04: I just want to show you my triangle, you know.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_04: They're like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_04: We're on mushrooms, and I'm like, sorry, me too.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_05: You're like me too.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_05: I'm on mushrooms, too.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the new single, Coco's, is coming out November 13th, and both the single and the full album were recorded at Harbor Martyr Studio with John Joseph, who most recently worked with Sublime on Until the Sun Explodes.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: What was that recording experience like, and what did John bring out of Eighth Ball that you might not have gotten somewhere else?
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, John.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: What up, John?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um he really like he pushed us along, like we were kind of just like, you know, just uh rough like jam band going in there, and then he was like, No, this is how it works.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm not gonna let you guys do your thing.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: You guys gonna do it this way?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, like not not exactly that, but just like kind of pushed us really into uh really got all the music out of us.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like he didn't leave any time to sit around and he's really productive, super efficient, efficient, yes.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was awesome.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't even know how to explain it.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: I've never had someone uh push us along like that, and uh it's been it's been great having his support.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_03: The other night we went uh lobster diving the other and uh you went lobster diving with John?
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_03: You had a lobster?
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and that's also the reason I'm late is because he gave me a new spear gun and I had to go get it rebanded, and I thought I had time, but I didn't.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's the difference between a producer and an engineer, though, right?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like an engineer is just gonna record you as you are, but a producer is gonna like push you to be the best version of yourself possible and unlock things that maybe you didn't know you had within yourselves.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's weird because um, you know, before working with John, we worked with our friend Eric, who's right here.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: Eric, pop your head in.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Pop your head in, Eric.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Eric, what's up, dude?
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: Eric is 8-Track Studios.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Go check out 8-track if you're not familiar.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: But we did three songs with Eric, and it took us 11 months.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: And that's nothing against Eric, because Eric, Eric did a good job at being a friend, and he let and and he was patient, and he let us do every single thing that we think we needed to do to make those songs the best they could.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: And what John really instilled in us, he's like, dude, you guys have been playing these songs for a while now.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: You guys are so in your head of the way that each little part should exactly specifically be, went to a generic ear, it's you're not gonna notice the difference.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's you guys he's John told us we're getting two in on the nitty-gritty, and you know, of course, we've had Eric in pretty much, I think, on almost all the sessions that John's we we trust Eric in his ear more than anyone.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: Eric's been an OG since day one, knows our sound and our and our vibe, and he's been a proven of of everything that John's doing, and it just goes to show that John has worked with so many like big bands, and he's a master, really, at like getting what like the best out of people and the best out of bands.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: And and he just knows what he's doing, man.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like every edit he makes is just so efficient, he's just he's a professional, and necessary too.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said, like we're also we're we're punk band at the core.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: We're we should be sloppy and we shouldn't be too tedious, and we should just let it be what it comes out.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: And John, you know, is on about just making the changes that need to be done, and if it doesn't need to be done, it's a beautiful mistake that someone might love.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe we don't hear it that way, but someone else might hear it.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: You still have the triangle?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm never letting anything go.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: Don't ever let that triangle go.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: Let him the day we got back.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_03: My first time.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: Carter, I understand that you actually got to record all of your guitar parts for Coco's through Bradley's old guitar amp from the 90s.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: Bradley Knowles.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: What's the story behind that amp, and what was it like knowing you were literally putting your guitar through a piece of Sublime History?
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, it was You felt it in your balls.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: You really did feel it in your balls.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: That amp is just unlike any amp I've ever played.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I remember like my first time going to Harbor Martyr was maybe about almost a year before Eighth Ball was in there, and it was at the time that Sublime was doing the Until the Sun explodes stuff, and I remember walking into the tracking room and seeing it there, and I was just like, whoa, like this is Brad's ant.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: This is a piece of history.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's all those records and live recordings I'd watched that are like post like '93, I want to say, were like done with that amp.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I would just remember tripping out.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Even before that, it was like the first Sublime Reunion show for the HR benefit.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: I remember like seeing Brad's guitar and the triple rectifier sitting there on stage.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: I like took a this is three, maybe almost four years ago now.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: I remember seeing it on stage.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: I took a photo of it.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: It was like my phone wallpaper, this amp.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Before I'd met Jake, before I'd met Zayn, like my phone wallpaper, like, damn, that's sick.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: And we go into record like the first day with Eighth Ball, and I'm like lugging in, me and Chris's amp.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: And John's like, hey, uh, I think I got something in the other room that you might want to use.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I walk in, there it was, triple rectifier.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, what the fuck?
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: That amp has like a form of presence.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like even when it's not plugged in, even when it's just sitting facing a wall in like a room, it feels like this like presence of a being is in it.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's crazy, though.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: That thing is a monster.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: It has so much headroom, it's like insane.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: It just gets so loud.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it's so loud when we're tracking.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: And John does it never clips, like it never clips the mics.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: John just does like such a great job at recording and like capturing the bigness of how big that ant gets.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: And it's displayed great through the new Sublime album.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I also think it's great displayed through our new songs that we're gonna put out too.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: But it's just it's magic.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's just it's unreal to think that I gotta record on that.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's a piece, it's a piece of history, and it's part of what made me fall in love with Eighth Ball was Sublime and that music and honestly.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: It feels like you're you're playing with like a toy that you shouldn't be.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_03: You're like, is this legal?
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: I am excited for fans of your band to watch this episode and listen to this episode, but more so I'm excited for you guys to watch and listen to this back.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you're all hyperconsciously aware of how many, and I'm gonna repeat my phrasing, serendipitous moments you have as a band, but just in the 30 minutes that we've been talking, I've counted about four or five.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like nothing is accidental with you guys, it seems like everything is with full intention and purpose.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah, yes.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: At the same time, though, like a lot of things they just kind of like fall like right into our laps, and it like happens, it's it I don't know, they just really fall into place, and we just have to just kind of play with the cards a little bit, and it's all good, dude.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, just like a triangle.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_02: Ding to that.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's your cue, homie.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: So this release is gonna be a pretty big milestone because Cocos makes Eighth Ball the first band outside of projects involving Jake and Zane to release music through Sunburn.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like you guys are kind of a unicorn in that sense.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but what does that opportunity mean to you?
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_02: And what do you think Jacob and Zane heard in your band that made them want to bring you into the family?
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: I have no clue, honestly.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why they would.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, one, we have a Roman.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, one, we've got Roman.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: Roman's a beast, Roman's not here with us right now.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um but he is just he's he's second to Bud, you know.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: Literally, Eric Wilson calls him Bud Light.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because he's just yeah, he's that second to Bud.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's so good.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's like a defining factor.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, Chris, I feel like has done his fair share of studying and um just is a bitch and bass player.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: Gabe's just got this voice that fills a room.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's like crazy.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Gabe has this like super powerful voice, and you know, I just do my job.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: But with without an ego to like come across, but I feel like I mean they've told me before, but like we're second to sublime, like we're this generation's sublime.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there's there's a bunch of good bands that fucking they kill it and they do a great job.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh reggae ska and doing their thing, and I think we're just the lucky cats that kind of squeezed in the door, and we're we're able to catch their attention.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: And we like I said before, like there's no better place we could be.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like the best the best circumstance for us, like music-wise, for us being in the sublime circle, but like we were talking about earlier, the best circumstance in a sense of friendship, and like the people we are actually working with Zane, Jake, Max Gray, all the castle cats, Freshie, Ian Foreman, like they're all like amazing people, and we wouldn't want to work with anyone else unless other people are great people and want to work with us and our new friends at some point, you know.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, I'm gonna tell you, you know, and I'm not trying to stroke ego myself here, but having this conversation with the three of you guys is very similar for me what it was like like standing backstage at Fiddler's talking with Zane and Jake.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_02: And so I I don't think again, another serendipitous moment, I don't think it's accidental, and I don't think it's strictly to the music.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think it is a what you guys bring to the community as people.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: And speaking of community, there is a really interesting community developing around Sunburn.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's a movement, and it's a movement that I I just having this conversation with all of you guys, Strange Case, you guys, uh Jake, you know, I feel privileged to be witnessing firsthand from inside Eighth Ball.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_02: How would you describe what's happening between bands like you guys, Castle, Strange Case, and the people surrounding Sublime?
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: Does it feel like a scene is being built in real time?
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: We're growing.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, we're growing, dude.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: All I can think about is that night in uh where was that?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Portland or Salt Lake hanging out with all those fools, man.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh dude, those guys are just families straight up.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: So many homies.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's unreal.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like it just there is there is a scene being formed.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I think for all of us, we're just stoked to have people that love the music we're creating.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I think all of us, all these bands, Jacob and Jacob's Castle and Strange Case, like everyone's making the type of music that they want.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I think everyone's really happy and satisfied with the fact of that.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: So where when fans and stuff grasp on to what they're doing and enjoy it, it's there's no better feeling, and it's unique and authentic and and unreal.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's been crazy to be a part of it.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's yeah, like you could have told me this that this was happening like a year and a half ago, I'd be like, dude, you're lying.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like this is we were going for scunk.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, years ago, I would say like 10 years ago and beyond, and I've brought this up a million times on my show, like people used to be really adherent to the lanes of genre and like staying within those lanes.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: One thing that I think was a big appeal for bands like Sublime and like one of my favorite all-time bands, The Clash.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I talk about those two bands in particular.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: The Clash is like my most favorite band of all time, is a sense of genre fluidity.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like audiences are really kind of starting to embrace that again and why bands like Sublime are having a second and third renaissance right now.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: And maybe to your point, you guys making music for the love of the sound that you want to create is more important now than probably has ever been.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like striking while the iron is hot, right?
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_01: Totally, yeah.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_01: There couldn't have been a better time for us to be making this kind of music, and there's also stuff that's like we've got a song called World War III, and I feel like that's just so far left field of anything that Sublime's done, but it's it's something like we were talking about Zeppelin earlier, like these guys breathe and live that music just as much as they do Sublime, and it's like cool, we're gonna play like the sickest freaking rock and roll song straight into like a Sublime cover.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Fuck it.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what we're doing.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, there's we're we definitely like, and we like plan on you know, breaking that mold even more.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: Roman, our drummer, he's like really big in some sick, like old school funk.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think we've all like talked about experimenting into some like funk stuff and seeing how we can incorporate that and like what we're doing, and maybe like you said, like the the genre fluidity of like even like within a song, like how sick would it be to like have this funk breakdown in a ska song?
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, that'd be sick.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there's this really fun story behind the artwork of Coco's that and I've heard it's basically your version of something that's pretty biblically accurate.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: What exactly is going on in that cover and how did that idea come together?
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: You want to talk about that?
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, so I don't know.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we wanted to go play this uh this little bar up in Mammoth.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's called Liberty Bar, and we were doing uh the opening day of like snowboard season or whatever.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it was a skate event.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it was a skate event, okay.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and um played that up there a couple times for different reasons.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, yeah, that this was the first time we played up there, anyways.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_03: The days we were about to take off, like Roman is like, yo, I'm gonna ride up with my homie Noah.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_03: And like I've known Noah for years since high school.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_03: Fucking dipshit, fuck that dude if you're listening.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck you, man.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um and uh so he rides out with uh with Noah out to Tahoe like the day before, and they go camping, whatever, stay at his grandma's house.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what the fuck they're doing, and so then they get back to where we're camping at in the hot springs off of like the Benton Crossing, and they pull up in his truck and whatever, everything's going all good, and then the like that night fucking no got all weird and was like, hey dude, I'm going back home.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_03: Like, it's like, what do you mean?
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we have all our stuff in your car and whatever.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: And he's like, Yeah, dude, I want to sleep in my bed.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm gonna come drive back.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_03: And it's like that makes no sense.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: You're gonna drive back home just to sleep and drive back to Mammoth.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: And this is like a six-hour drive.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a six-hour drive from home.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_03: So we had to like stay up to like four in the morning, talk him out and not leaving.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: And he's like, Yeah, you know what, you're right.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_03: These guys are cool, it's alright.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_03: And then fucking, yeah, guy ended up being a prick.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_03: The next morning, uh, like he and he and Roman are just fighting.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_03: Noah's throwing all this shit out onto the ground.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: He thought that Roman put his drums on top of the city.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was gonna say it's about the phone.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: We have some cloud cover in the garage.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and uh, but yeah, that's basically long story short.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like on the side of the 395, and uh Noah's getting pissed at Roman because he thought he fucking buried his phone and they're going at it, and we had to tear the entire truck apart to find his phone, which was just underneath his seat, by the way.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_03: And just what a baby.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: So threw all these drums out of his truck.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: All of Roman's drums were like throwing these drums out of his truck just on the side of the highway.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_03: Like when I got back home from that trip, I was just like so emotionally exhausted.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, you know, fuck everyone, fuck all this bullshit, like whatever.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_03: It was uh fuck you to the uh to like uh, you know, all those egotistical dudes who just think that their name means something or whatever, like think their place and whatever they're doing is better than you or whatever, and so they can't really kick it.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_03: So that's what the song's about.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, yeah.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I hate being in those moments, those like emotional vampires, those type of people, they're the absolute worst.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like you you drama queen, dude.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_03: Shut up.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: So you guys have already experienced what it's like to play in this sunburnt ecosystem from festivals to sharing bills with bands that help establish your sound.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: When you look at something like the Sublime Reef Madness Cruise and the larger world that's developing around this music, does it feel like the kind of world Eighth Ball is trying to become a part of in the grand scheme of things?
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_03: We're we're stoked to be getting out of state and traveling and I don't know, just I think uh I definitely do think there's some differences.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think what Sublime is doing right now is really cool, but they're also a legacy band.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: I think what Jacob is doing with the castle stuff is way more aligned with like what I think we want to be doing as a band, just like not to say that the cruise isn't sick, but it's like we're still young and we wanna we wanna party and we wanna have fun and like tear the roof off a small club and um but also I think more so about like you know the music too.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's uh I'm I'm very fortunate for this for this scene and I'm I'm stoked to be a part of it.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I I just cannot wait to be putting out a message to the world that you know I think that it'd be good for everyone to hear.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, not trying to force an opinion out there, but just trying to show a way of life that's really does work for for us and and there's a lot of beauty in life, and I think that it's uh you know, we're fortunate enough to live it.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_03: I think we should tell people about it, you know.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: Hell yes.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: Is there a band on the cruise that you guys haven't played with before that you're super stoked to be playing with?
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm really stoked to be playing with Dylan Katron.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Dylan's a Homie from Florida.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: I've had the pleasure of kicking.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think all of us have kicked it with Dylan.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: He's just the homie.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: And he has such a cool, like, this just like mixture of like kind of like Jack Johnson mixed with slightly stupid.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like denim kind of.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's just like he's awesome, and he's like a genre blender too in that kind of way.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_01: And just beyond his music, he's just the homie.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm stoked to be kicking with him.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think Zayn is gonna be playing with him on the cruise, playing guitar for him.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I'm uh yeah, I think Dylan is I'm most stoked to be to be playing alongside Dylan.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the elevators are also on that cruise, and they recorded with uh with John as well on their latest release, and that their latest album is sick, Shark Belly Motel.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's so good.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: I still haven't gotten a chance to listen to it.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, dude, dude, the elevators are crushing it right now, though.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: They're huge.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: My dad, my dad loves them.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: My dad loves the elevators.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure my dad's heard it.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: He'd probably have nothing but like the best to say about it.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't heard it, but I just know like, especially with John, like anything that John works on is is amazing.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: They've evolved, like they've gone from having like more of a a so-called cow reggae sound to being more of like a fucking soul throwback band, and that's I I fuck with that pretty hard.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_02: So if eighth ball really is a part of the next generation of Southern California reggae, ska, and punk, what do you want to add to the story that bands that came before you may have started?
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: And five years from now, what does eighth ball look like if you've gotten everything that you're chasing right now?
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_03: And five years from now, if it's everything we're chasing from now, I think we'll have like, you know, a fan base that we could actually, you know, like a big, bigger platform fan base we could play for.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_03: I think if it's everything that we're chasing for, if we're putting out new music that, you know, means something to people.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, even if that's just a handful of people, if it makes a difference in the world, then they can go make a difference.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's just chasing for uh new perspectives and for the scene to move together as one, for there to be a shared direction, for you know, people to not be so scared and timid of you know what what life is bringing right now.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's so it's so stressful with you know like a world of inflation and flock cameras and social media, you know, someone being able to point a phone at you and film you doing whatever you are, it's a surveillance state.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's it's really hard.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's it's weird.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_03: Then like we're all just kind of thrown into the deep end and it's like all the rules that we were taught for our generation, it just kind of doesn't apply to society anymore.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: So I just would like to see, you know, um I know a change of attitude and in the people you know around us and you know move forward and and upward and and create something beautiful.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: Unity is a big thing.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bringing everybody that we play with with us, and everyone just works together and it's all part of the community.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, I absolutely love that.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, guys, almost 50 minutes has flown by because we have had nothing but a fucking blast hanging out here.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_02: My closing question today that I ask every single guest that does my show and keep it simple.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: What's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today through your eyes and your experience one at a time?
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_03: Never change.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um two things.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: Never change and go pick up a piece of trash.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: Again.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: Two things live for today.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, live like today's your last day or your first and just make the most of today.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: If you're too worried about the future and what's to hold, then then you're not living to your full fullest potential in the moment and never change.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_03: Also on forgiveness.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_03: You fucking release that all that from yourself and it's all good now.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_03: You know, if you're full of resentment or anger towards people, it's just only setting you back because they might not be pissed off, they might not think twice about it, and you're thinking about it all day.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_03: So just forgive them and move on.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_02: I love that guys.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_02: I have thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you tell anybody that's watching this or listening to this where they can find Eighth Ball online and tell them what's coming?
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: You check out Eighth Ball Instagram, 8th Ball period underscore.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then on streaming splat on streaming platforms, platforms, the streaming platforms you can find.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's just eighth space ball.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: Around the table, that's all I guess.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: Around the table, yeah, around the table, YouTube, uh Apple Music, Amazon Music.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_03: You just kind of gotta check.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_03: I can't even find it out the time.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's yeah, EP out right now, but then yeah, Cocos, the single is out November 13th.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_02: Well, guys, like I said earlier in the uh in the podcast, you guys know that we're family now.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: So anytime you guys need anything, you guys reach out.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_02: Even if I have Dave fucking Chappelle on the show, I'll drop him to hang out with you dudes.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_01: So it goes both ways.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you need us, you know.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: You need a you if you need a theme song, you need an intro song, let us know.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: If you just want to write one, I might use it.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, if you spoke down, we record it right now with a triangle.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Chris Carter, Gabe, guys, thank you so much for doing the show with the world.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's a much better place than you and it.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you guys and your friendship.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Mike.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: Back to you.