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- 0:09Speaker 1: From the Australian. This is the weekend edition of the
- 0:11Speaker 1: Front Unclaire Harvey. Wuthering Heights is the most polarizing cinema
- 0:17Speaker 1: event of twenty twenty six. Reviewers have thrown at five
- 0:21Speaker 1: stars or one, audiences have loved it or walked out
- 0:25Speaker 1: of the cinema. One thing people agree on is that
- 0:28Speaker 1: Emerald Fanelle's adaptation of Emily Bronte's story of love and
- 0:32Speaker 1: Revenge is for women, specifically young women. So joining me
- 0:37Speaker 1: today is Bianca far Marcus, content director of Culture at
- 0:41Speaker 1: The Australian and a young woman and spoiler alert, she
- 0:45Speaker 1: hated it. What should you do here?
- 0:56Speaker 2: Well, if you were rich supposor and do all Richmond
- 1:03Speaker 2: live in a big ouse?
- 1:06Speaker 3: It be cruel to my servants.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Take a wife, a wife? What wife?
- 1:15Speaker 4: Hi?
- 1:19Speaker 1: The Australian's got a new chief film critic, Nikki Gammel,
- 1:22Speaker 1: and she announced herself in the role with a pretty
- 1:25Speaker 1: startling review Wuthering Heights.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, five stars, my first ever five star review.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Bianca far Marcus is The Australian's Content director of Culture
- 1:40Speaker 1: and Bianca, it's safe to say Nicki loved this movie.
- 1:43Speaker 5: Yes, she absolutely loved the film. I think it's one
- 1:46Speaker 5: of the most exciting reviews I've read of Wuthering Heights,
- 1:50Speaker 5: and our audience loved either agreeing with her or getting
- 1:54Speaker 5: into a debate, which this film seems to be sparking
- 1:57Speaker 5: a lot of.
- 1:58Speaker 4: Emerald Fanelle has electrified the franchise. I watched the nineteen
- 2:04Speaker 4: thirty nine Wathering Heights you know, Lawrence Olivier mil Oberon
- 2:09Speaker 4: with my heart. I watched the very Door Overly Yearness
- 2:12Speaker 4: twenty eleven Andrea Arnold version with my head. I watched
- 2:17Speaker 4: this one.
- 2:18Speaker 1: With my groin. Bianka, you got Nikki and a few
- 2:24Speaker 1: of our other experts, Jordi Gray and Melanda rout into
- 2:27Speaker 1: the State Theater to have a deep dive into who
- 2:31Speaker 1: loved Wathering Heights and who hated it.
- 2:34Speaker 4: We are at the glorious State Theater in Sydney. We're
- 2:38Speaker 4: just a couple of weeks ago. Wathering Heights made its
- 2:42Speaker 4: Australian premiere quite divisive ever since. I think we should
- 2:48Speaker 4: turn to bi Anchor.
- 2:50Speaker 5: Let me just start by saying I don't think Wathering
- 2:52Speaker 5: Heights is necessarily a bad movie. I would say it's
- 2:55Speaker 5: the worst film I've ever seen.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Banker.
- 3:01Speaker 5: Now, I know I'm surrounded by fans here, and I
- 3:03Speaker 5: would just like to kick off this conversation by saying,
- 3:06Speaker 5: what was it that you actually enjoyed?
- 3:09Speaker 1: I loved It's audacity.
- 3:10Speaker 6: For me, It's about women being audacious and breaking through
- 3:16Speaker 6: with boldness and daring, just as Emily Bronte did in
- 3:20Speaker 6: eighteen forty six eighteen forty seven. Emerald Fanelle has seized
- 3:26Speaker 6: the ip, the original product and made something electric and
- 3:31Speaker 6: alive and Dann sexy.
- 3:33Speaker 4: I just take off my hat to her.
- 3:38Speaker 1: The ankle. We're gonna look at what some other people
- 3:40Speaker 1: thought of this movie, but I need to know more
- 3:41Speaker 1: about why you hated it. Why did you hate this
- 3:43Speaker 1: movie so much?
- 3:45Speaker 5: It's three things. Firstly, all style, no substance. Secondly, and
- 3:50Speaker 5: I really hope I'm not deported for this one, but
- 3:53Speaker 5: Margot Robbie and Jacob e Loordi cannot act together. They
- 3:56Speaker 5: were hopeless.
- 3:58Speaker 2: I have not broken your heart, have broken it, and
- 4:02Speaker 2: in breaking it, you've broken minds kussas broth Betun.
- 4:19Speaker 5: Thirdly would be the positioning of this film as a
- 4:22Speaker 5: great love story, which has caused a lot of drama
- 4:24Speaker 5: for a lot of different reasons. People are upset that
- 4:27Speaker 5: it deviated so much from the original text. People are
- 4:30Speaker 5: upset that it kind of ignores the whole domestic violence
- 4:33Speaker 5: element to it. My main gripe was that if you're
- 4:36Speaker 5: going to position something as a love story, you need
- 4:38Speaker 5: to get actors with the slightest bit of chemistry, and
- 4:41Speaker 5: the symbolism used was just the most lazy and boring
- 4:46Speaker 5: kind of hints at subtle sexuality. I think I've ever
- 4:49Speaker 5: had the misfortune of watching for two and a half
- 4:52Speaker 5: hours of my life. I cannot tell you how much
- 4:54Speaker 5: I hated this movie.
- 4:55Speaker 1: I really don't want to see it because I, as
- 4:58Speaker 1: a devoted Jane Austen fan fine the Bronte sisters and
- 5:01Speaker 1: their gothic running around on the moor's kind of ripping
- 5:04Speaker 1: your clothes often crying novels really tedious. I also found
- 5:09Speaker 1: really tedious Saltburn, which is the movie that everyone loves
- 5:12Speaker 1: by Emerald Fanell. Hello Oliver Darning, Oh beautiful eyes, Oh.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Wonderful No, I told you it wasn't a Minger Oh,
- 5:23Speaker 4: but Darning your kind about everyone you can't be trusted?
- 5:27Speaker 1: Did you like Saltburn?
- 5:28Speaker 5: I found Saltburn fine personally. I thought it was a
- 5:31Speaker 5: poor man's Tom Ripley and just focused more on the
- 5:35Speaker 5: depravity than anything else. It had interesting bits, and I
- 5:38Speaker 5: think visually she is an impeccable filmmaker, and I think
- 5:42Speaker 5: culturally she is one of the most interesting filmmakers of
- 5:45Speaker 5: our time and really shows like kind of this new
- 5:48Speaker 5: generational shift of how we're watching films. My personal favorite
- 5:52Speaker 5: was her debut promising Young Woman.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Oh you Hi, I'm back because I think you gave
- 6:01Speaker 1: me a fake number.
- 6:02Speaker 2: The other day.
- 6:05Speaker 7: I'm not really looking to date anyone at the moment, Yeah.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Me, neither.
- 6:11Speaker 4: Would you.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Be interested in a friendship And I'm secretly pining for you.
- 6:17Speaker 2: The whole time.
- 6:20Speaker 5: The substance, the nuance of it, every single element of
- 6:24Speaker 5: that film was just a work of art. I don't
- 6:28Speaker 5: know what's happened since. I think for anyone wanting to
- 6:31Speaker 5: know whether they should see whether in Heights or not,
- 6:34Speaker 5: I'd say read a Vogue, drop a cardon of eggs
- 6:37Speaker 5: on the floor, and look at someone you find attractive
- 6:41Speaker 5: from a distance, and think about what it would be
- 6:43Speaker 5: like to be with them for five minutes. You pretty
- 6:45Speaker 5: much just saved yourself two and a half hours and
- 6:46Speaker 5: ten minutes that's what you get.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Throw a bucket of cold water on yourself and pretend
- 6:50Speaker 1: you're on the Yorkshire Wars. Let's read a review by
- 6:53Speaker 1: The Independence Clarice Lowry. She gave it one star. She said,
- 6:57Speaker 1: adaptation or not, it's an astonishingly hollow work. Some of this,
- 7:02Speaker 1: it can be argued, was already signaled by the film's
- 7:04Speaker 1: casting and the choice to obliterate any mention of race,
- 7:08Speaker 1: colonialism or ostracization in the telling of Pseudo Siblings Kafyine
- 7:12Speaker 1: Heathcliff's destructive codependence. Heathcliff, who's ethnically ambiguous appearance is of
- 7:19Speaker 1: great concern to every other character in the book, is
- 7:21Speaker 1: played by white Australian actor Jacob Alaudie. Now this has
- 7:25Speaker 1: been a thread of the commentary about Jacob Elordie's performance.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not, there's a critique that
- 7:31Speaker 1: he's too basically. I think that might be a little
- 7:34Speaker 1: bit unfair. I mean, yes, he is not a gypsy
- 7:38Speaker 1: as Heathcliff is described in the original text, but he's
- 7:43Speaker 1: also not blonde with blue eyes.
- 7:45Speaker 5: I think people getting hung up on the fact that
- 7:47Speaker 5: it's not directly a representation of the book are missing
- 7:50Speaker 5: the point that Emerald Fanell intentionally put it in inverted commons.
- 7:54Speaker 5: We know it's wuthering heights in her interpretation, and I
- 7:57Speaker 5: also just think it riscins the ability to move on
- 8:01Speaker 5: from the text, Like there are versions of the book
- 8:05Speaker 5: that's turned into a film that is very loyal to that,
- 8:07Speaker 5: and I think it's important, But I also don't know
- 8:09Speaker 5: why that's become such a sticking point when there's plenty
- 8:12Speaker 5: of other things to hate about this movie.
- 8:15Speaker 1: There are certainly ways to adapt iconic novels without being
- 8:17Speaker 1: faithful to the text. Clueless is a great example of that,
- 8:20Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties movie that's an adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma.
- 8:25Speaker 7: You're like, I go out like that are share?
- 8:28Speaker 2: I get in here?
- 8:29Speaker 4: What's that? Daddy?
- 8:29Speaker 1: What the hell is that?
- 8:31Speaker 3: Address?
- 8:32Speaker 1: Says who Calvin Klein.
- 8:34Speaker 2: It looks like underwear.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Go upstairs and put something over it.
- 8:38Speaker 4: So I was just going to.
- 8:41Speaker 1: It managed to be funny and incisive and different, but
- 8:45Speaker 1: it didn't get itself into the same jam that Emerald
- 8:49Speaker 1: Fanell's now in, And maybe inverted commason on enough to
- 8:52Speaker 1: distance you from the original text.
- 8:55Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, my personal favorites ten things I
- 8:57Speaker 5: Hate about you The Taming of the Shrew.
- 9:01Speaker 4: All right, anyone braving up to read theirs aloud?
- 9:05Speaker 7: I will lord, here we go. I hate the way
- 9:14Speaker 7: you talk to me and the way you cut your hair.
- 9:17Speaker 7: I hate the way you drive my car. I hate
- 9:19Speaker 7: it when you stare. I hate your big, dumb combat
- 9:23Speaker 7: boots and the way you read my mind. I hate
- 9:25Speaker 7: you so much it makes me sick. It even makes
- 9:28Speaker 7: me rhyme.
- 9:31Speaker 5: I guess what those achieved was taking it completely out
- 9:33Speaker 5: of the world that it was said in, whereas Emerald
- 9:35Speaker 5: Fanel kind of does this sort of lazy flirtation with
- 9:39Speaker 5: it and then just ignores everything else. So it's a
- 9:43Speaker 5: balance of which parts that she ignored that you really
- 9:45Speaker 5: take an issue with.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Now, Emerald Fanil is a millennial, but only just she's
- 9:52Speaker 1: forty years old. Yes, she's getting much closer to my
- 9:55Speaker 1: end of the spectrum then to yours. But there's a
- 9:58Speaker 1: lot of talk about how she's reinventing cinema for a
- 10:01Speaker 1: new generation, and she's making this relevant for young women.
- 10:04Speaker 1: You're a young woman. Why did that not connect with you?
- 10:08Speaker 5: Other than the fact that it was beautiful to look at.
- 10:10Speaker 5: I think it had absolutely nothing to really hook into,
- 10:14Speaker 5: And I think this one was kind of a failure
- 10:17Speaker 5: in ways to make a film for young people because
- 10:20Speaker 5: it did have those sexy celebrities editing that makes the
- 10:24Speaker 5: whole thing kind of look like a TikTok. At the
- 10:26Speaker 5: end of the day, it just felt really shallow and
- 10:28Speaker 5: hollow and overtly reliant on things that appeal to young people,
- 10:33Speaker 5: rather than in the past, where she's genuinely made films
- 10:36Speaker 5: that really connect to younger audiences.
- 10:39Speaker 1: The New Yorkers Justin Chang wrote this in his review.
- 10:43Speaker 1: The actors generate sparks of passion, but no deeper air
- 10:46Speaker 1: of tragic or romantic inevitability, no sense of a bond
- 10:50Speaker 1: forged between souls, and only a smidgen of the corrosive
- 10:54Speaker 1: rage that makes Wuthering Heights as much of a hate
- 10:57Speaker 1: story as it is a love story. You hated it,
- 11:01Speaker 1: obviously that you're bringing the hate. What about the sex?
- 11:04Speaker 1: Was it sexy? Ah?
- 11:06Speaker 4: Not? Really?
- 11:09Speaker 2: Do you want me to stop?
- 11:14Speaker 5: It was just lazy. It was like, let's rely on
- 11:17Speaker 5: two attractive people to sell a sex scene. It's like, well,
- 11:20Speaker 5: they have to actually do something and it can't just
- 11:23Speaker 5: be random staring across the yard sticking your fingers into
- 11:27Speaker 5: a fish. Also, the thing that I find quite interesting
- 11:29Speaker 5: about this is she didn't change the historical context of it. Right.
- 11:33Speaker 5: This is in the eighteenth century, a pre refrigeration period,
- 11:37Speaker 5: might I add, So the kind of the idea that
- 11:39Speaker 5: everyone's getting off by smash dairy and rotting fish is
- 11:43Speaker 5: just ridiculous to me.
- 11:44Speaker 1: What was the thing about the eggs? Behind the eggs? Please,
- 11:48Speaker 1: you gotta tell me these eggs. Everyone's talking about eggs.
- 11:50Speaker 5: These eggs in this economy is what bothers me the
- 11:52Speaker 5: most about this film. It's just like it's a symbol
- 11:56Speaker 5: that Heathcliff keeps leaving her smashed eggs in her bed
- 11:59Speaker 5: on the floor, or there's eggs smashing everywhere, and apparently
- 12:02Speaker 5: no one in this village is starving because they just
- 12:05Speaker 5: get to smash eggs all the time.
- 12:06Speaker 1: The eggs could be about fertility, about sort of smashing
- 12:09Speaker 1: her fertility. There could be about you know, bodily.
- 12:13Speaker 5: Fluids, honestly, and I'm like, I'm meant to believe that
- 12:18Speaker 5: that's sexy. Really, I mean, don't get me wrong, I
- 12:21Speaker 5: love and implied sort of sexual reference in everything. I
- 12:25Speaker 5: think It is very appealing and it does kind of,
- 12:27Speaker 5: particularly for women, tap into that whole thing of like
- 12:29Speaker 5: we want to think about it rather than just see,
- 12:32Speaker 5: like you know, full on sex scenes. But also, I
- 12:36Speaker 5: just did nothing for me. I just cannot fathom that
- 12:39Speaker 5: these two people had any chemistry whatsoever. It's like confirms
- 12:44Speaker 5: my firm belief that there should always be one ugly
- 12:46Speaker 5: person in a relationship, because then you know they've got
- 12:50Speaker 5: something else driving you there to stay with them. These
- 12:53Speaker 5: are two gorgeous and might I add, very talented actors
- 12:57Speaker 5: that should never again be in a film together.
- 13:00Speaker 1: They've taken the chemistry or unfortunately not the eggs to
- 13:04Speaker 1: the red carpet as well. Every time I see them
- 13:06Speaker 1: on a red carpet, they're kind of all over each other.
- 13:08Speaker 1: They're posting social media videos with matching rings. That is
- 13:14Speaker 1: sort of breaking the fourth wall in a quite old way.
- 13:16Speaker 1: I mean, we meant to believe that Margot and Jacob
- 13:18Speaker 1: are actually obsessed with each other in real life.
- 13:21Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think this is a masterclass in marketing.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Alison told me about Alex Cameron, who I know know
- 13:29Speaker 3: Alex Cameron loves modern day meet Look, why have we
- 13:37Speaker 3: never spoken about.
- 13:44Speaker 2: The way.
- 13:45Speaker 5: They clearly did all these things just to build the
- 13:48Speaker 5: hype around it, and now we have things like Jacob
- 13:50Speaker 5: Elordie wearing his silver tooth with the initials of the
- 13:54Speaker 5: characters engraved on it. It's just a marketing ploy, and
- 13:56Speaker 5: it's a very good one, but it doesn't do anything
- 13:59Speaker 5: for the film other than build hype around it and
- 14:01Speaker 5: then spurn a thousand think pieces talking about how bad
- 14:05Speaker 5: it was.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Is it going to win any awards? Is this an
- 14:08Speaker 1: all school worthy film?
- 14:09Speaker 5: Do you think I think it's a Razzie worthy film
- 14:13Speaker 5: if you're not on the judging fannel, no, I know
- 14:16Speaker 5: not yet, but look, I think there are definitely accolades
- 14:20Speaker 5: to be paid for the costuming and the set design
- 14:22Speaker 5: is incredible. But yeah, I'm going to give it a
- 14:25Speaker 5: solid note for the Oscars. Also makes sense for why
- 14:28Speaker 5: they released in February, because they completely missed the season
- 14:31Speaker 5: and they will most certainly not be making it the
- 14:35Speaker 5: next year.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Bianko far Marcus, I think you've made up my mind.
- 14:39Speaker 1: I'm not going to see it, and I'm really happy
- 14:41Speaker 1: about that.
- 14:42Speaker 5: Wait till streaming.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Thanks for coming.
- 14:44Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Biancher far Marcus is Content director of Culture at The Australian.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Every day you can read the best of arts, entertainment, music,
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- 15:05Speaker 1: the Front was hosted by me Claire Harvey and co
- 15:08Speaker 1: produced with Jasper League, who edited the episode and also
- 15:12Speaker 1: wrote our theme. Thanks for joining us on the Front
- 15:15Speaker 1: this week. Our team includes Kristin Amiot Leat Sammaglue, Tiffany
- 15:19Speaker 1: Dimac and Joshua Burton.