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Governor Jon Favreau? (Subscription Show Preview) · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Terminally Online, the Crooked Subscription Show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Elijah Cohn.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm Priyanka Arabindi. I co-host What A Day. Thank
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  Speaker 4: you all for having me here today. This is so exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: Great to have you, Priyanka. Been overdue.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. Very, very.
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  Speaker 2: This is a chance for us to commiserate about being
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  Speaker 2: way too online as we make the shows here at
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  Speaker 2: Crooked Media and cover the news. Let's just kick things
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  Speaker 2: off right away with some audience Q & As. Dan
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  Speaker 2: and John, Jared wants to know, what is the most
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  Speaker 2: frustrating narrative you had to deal with when you were
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  Speaker 2: in the White House?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, what a question. It's a good one, Dan.
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  Speaker 3: That if Barack Obama played more golf with racist Republicans,
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  Speaker 3: more would get done. More golf is a real one.
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  Speaker 1: More everything. More dinners.
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  Speaker 3: If he had a bourbon with Mitch McConnell, if he
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  Speaker 3: went to a tanning salon with John Boehner, any one
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  Speaker 3: of those things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is related to that one. But just the
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  Speaker 1: whole idea that Obama was too aloof, too aloof. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know a more personable, charismatic politician in our
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  Speaker 1: lifetimes than the guy who was too aloof. And the
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  Speaker 1: argument for why he was too aloof is because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't like the typical Washington bullshit that you do when
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  Speaker 1: you are a president or politician in Washington, which is like,
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  Speaker 1: go to cocktail parties and schmooze and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That was evidence. that he was too aloof, when in reality,
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  Speaker 1: he just thought it was fucking stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Too aloof to go to Cafe Milano with several ambassadors
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  Speaker 3: and some fundraisers.
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  Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: We have a follow-up to that question. Do you have
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  Speaker 2: a favorite political or media narrative that's happening right now,
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  Speaker 2: just one that you particularly enjoy?
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  Speaker 3: Legitimately enjoy or hate watch?
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  Speaker 2: For me, Ron DeSantis' being unlikable and it being a
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  Speaker 2: feedback cycle of, unlikableness and then another story about it
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  Speaker 2: is something I particularly enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying like Donald Trump just continually incriminating himself just
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  Speaker 1: in public, coming up with new excuses that are probably
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  Speaker 1: only be used against him at trial. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I probably with Elijah that I very
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  Speaker 3: much enjoy just the Ron DeSantis clowning himself every time
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  Speaker 3: he goes up there. It's pretty perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I also genuinely enjoy chris christie kicking the shit
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  Speaker 1: out of donald trump just.
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  Speaker 3: Get back on the lincoln project youtube page over there.
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  Speaker 1: Yes yeah no i enjoy it because i think he's
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  Speaker 1: a hero who should be that president yeah look you
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  Speaker 1: like donald trump you want to defend donald trump i
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  Speaker 1: understand that you don't want him to get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of criticism so that's fine but i think that people
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  Speaker 1: should criticize him you.
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  Speaker 4: Know i want credible criticism I was served a Chris
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  Speaker 4: Christie TikTok, like not from an official Chris Christie account,
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  Speaker 4: but like something trying to make him like doing this
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  Speaker 4: look cool. And I was like, wow, what have I
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  Speaker 4: done on the Internet that they think I need this content?
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  Speaker 4: Made me question a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: But it is.
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  Speaker 1: Priyanka, that is the best evidence yet that the Chinese
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  Speaker 1: government is in control of TikTok.
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  Speaker 4: It's in there with all the other outfits of the
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  Speaker 4: day that I'm normally served.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that'll wrap up our audience Q & As
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  Speaker 2: for the week. Let's go ahead and jump in to
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  Speaker 2: the Terminally Online segment here. Dan, when did you realize
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  Speaker 2: that you were terminally online this week?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was yesterday, I guess. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: probably yesterday. Unlike John, I really still use my phone
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  Speaker 3: and I'm very proud of it. And I was scrolling
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  Speaker 3: through Twitter and I stumbled on Somehow, I'm not even
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  Speaker 3: sure how I found it, but it was a old
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  Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis tweet from 2015. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Already.
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  Speaker 3: In honor of Casey DeSantis' birthday, which was also this
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  Speaker 3: week because he was doing a bunch of really cheesy, terrible,
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  Speaker 3: promoted tweet fundraising ads on Twitter for his wife's birthday.
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  Speaker 3: Because if you really, there was even one that was
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  Speaker 3: something like, Casey's birthday is only has six more hours
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  Speaker 3: left and we have not yet hit our petition.
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  Speaker 1: Oh God.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Which is a sign of true love is hitting
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  Speaker 3: your petition goal. And I stumbled on this picture. It
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  Speaker 3: is a picture of Ron DeSantis and Casey DeSantis in
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  Speaker 3: front of a green screen beach. It appears. Yep. Definitely
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  Speaker 3: green screen. He is wearing an ill-fitting shirt. short sleeve
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  Speaker 3: blue button down that makes him look a little bit
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  Speaker 3: like detective Sipowitz in NYPD blog. And the text on
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  Speaker 3: this footage says Casey to Sandus colon, a man of
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  Speaker 3: integrity and honor.
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  Speaker 1: It does look like they are modeling clothes for TJ Maxx.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think it's very, it's just, they look like it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's really, it's wild.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much here. It's just an odd choice.
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  Speaker 3: They don't look human. They look quite photoshopped. He at
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  Speaker 3: the time was running for Senate in Florida, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: And so it seems like if you were running for
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  Speaker 3: office in Florida, you could find a beach to use.
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  Speaker 4: A real beach.
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  Speaker 3: A real beach, not the green screen at your local Sears,
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  Speaker 3: which is where I think this was taken. And then
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  Speaker 3: somehow they allowed there to be printed on this photo.
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  Speaker 3: Casey DeSantis, a man of integrity and honor. Now, in
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  Speaker 3: defense of the 2015 era Ron DeSantis social team, above
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  Speaker 3: this in the tweet was a quote from Casey DeSantis
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  Speaker 3: calling Ron DeSantis a man of integrity and honor, but
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  Speaker 3: that does not translate to the picture, which seems to
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  Speaker 3: imply that Casey DeSantis is a man of integrity and honor.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, also, but even, forget the picture for a second.
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  Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis just tweeting a picture of tweeting a quote
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  Speaker 1: That was an endorsement from his own wife about him
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  Speaker 1: is fucking weird. I'm just going to tweet a quote
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  Speaker 1: from Emily. Emily, you know, Jon Favreau is the best.
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  Speaker 1: I love Jon. He's great. He's so smart. My wife.
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  Speaker 3: She would never say that.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I would have to make it up and
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  Speaker 1: tweet it.
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  Speaker 4: It reminds me of Chris Pratt. And when his wife
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  Speaker 4: had to be like, you know, when everyone was like
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  Speaker 4: saying Chris Pratt was the worst of all the Hollywood
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  Speaker 4: Chris's and his wife had to be like, he's this
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  Speaker 4: great guy. And it was like, why would you ever
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  Speaker 4: think that this was the appropriate response? That is what
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  Speaker 4: it made me think of. I also saw that photo
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  Speaker 4: with zero context and was like, I'm perplexed because Casey DeSantis,
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  Speaker 4: to my knowledge, is not a man. But I too
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  Speaker 4: was not Once again, not inspired to do any further research.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, no, I'm leaving this here.
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  Speaker 3: They obviously did this at a photo studio with a
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  Speaker 3: green screen. Like what was the backup choice? Was it
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  Speaker 3: the two of them in old timey Western clothes in
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  Speaker 3: a black and white photo? Like what was going to
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  Speaker 3: happen here?
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  Speaker 1: It was that or fucking Cinderella's castle at Disney.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, another option.
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  Speaker 1: That was it where they got married.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What do you guys think of the DeSantis campaign strategy
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  Speaker 2: to just be like, you know, who people don't hate?
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  Speaker 2: is Ron's wife. You know, you hate him, but what
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  Speaker 2: about his wife? Is that a winning strategy?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's a winning strategy.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably a better strategy than using him all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Like every once in a while when you have a
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  Speaker 3: candidate who is not connecting with voters the way you want,
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  Speaker 3: what you do is you go out and get friends
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  Speaker 3: from their life and send them out to knock on doors.
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  Speaker 3: John Kerry very famously had a lot of his Vietnam
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  Speaker 3: vet friends who would go door-to-door in Iowa, New Hampshire,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera. But what do you do if the candidate
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  Speaker 3: has no friends?
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  Speaker 1: You make him a wife guy. Bring out the wife.
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  Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis, famous wife guy. That was brutal.
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  Speaker 2: I think going from the fundraising in present day back
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  Speaker 2: to 2015 puts you in at least a hospital out
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  Speaker 2: of four for how long.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that. Can I just say one
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  Speaker 3: thing that I've been wanting to say for a long
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  Speaker 3: time about Ron DeSantis' Disney wedding? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 3: So I was at Disneyland with my family for my
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  Speaker 3: son Jack's... Second birthday. And we were staying at a
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  Speaker 3: hotel and there was a Disney wedding taking place on
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  Speaker 3: the property.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy.
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  Speaker 3: So we watched from the balcony. And what we saw
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  Speaker 3: was the bride arrive in a giant horse-drawn Cinderella's carriage.
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  Speaker 3: So what I need to know.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a picture of Casey DeSantis?
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  Speaker 3: And they left. And then the bride and groom left
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  Speaker 3: in said Cinderella carriage.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, we need it.
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  Speaker 1: I also think it would have sort of double the impact, right,
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  Speaker 1: if we get this picture. Because on one hand, most
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  Speaker 1: of America will think they look like buffoons and they
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  Speaker 1: will be correct. But the people who are with Ron DeSantis...
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  Speaker 1: who know that he has taken on the woke scolds
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  Speaker 1: at Disney, they will not be happy to see pictures
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  Speaker 1: of Ron DeSantis and Casey DeSantis having a Disney wedding.
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  Speaker 4: It's the ultimate lose-lose.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, America will accept hypocrisy and they will accept buffoonery
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  Speaker 3: from their politicians. They will not accept it.
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  Speaker 4: Not both. Wow, that's for next week. I hope someone
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  Speaker 4: can come back with that photo. I feel like if
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  Speaker 4: anyone could, it would be one of you two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, these are Trump's tax returns. This is the 2024
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  Speaker 2: version of it. Do we agree that Dan is a
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  Speaker 2: four here?
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  Speaker 3: Do we want to put him all the way terminal?
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  Speaker 4: I'd say like three.
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  Speaker 1: Three, yeah, I think that's a three. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a three.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, just go to the doctor. John, what was the
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  Speaker 2: moment you realized that you were too online this week?
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  Speaker 1: All right, here's where I realized I was too online.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, someone at Crooked, I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember who, posted a video in the Slack from Twitter
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  Speaker 1: where Roseanne Barr says that Donald Trump was the first
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  Speaker 1: woman president. There's no explanation for why. There's no context
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  Speaker 1: you're missing there. She just said that. So later on,
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  Speaker 1: I went back to look for the clip and found out,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, that it was actually an old clip
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  Speaker 1: from 2020. Then I noticed that two of Twitter's top
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  Speaker 1: trending topics were Roseanne and Holocaust. Anytime Holocaust is a
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  Speaker 1: trending topic on Twitter, it's not good. It's not good.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when I discovered that a bunch of popular
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  Speaker 1: resistance accounts, your John Coopers, your Krasensteins, had tweeted a
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  Speaker 1: clip of Roseanne's recent appearance on comedian Theo Vaughn's podcast,
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  Speaker 1: where she said the following.
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  Speaker 5: And nobody died in the Holocaust either. That's the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It should happen. Six million Jews should die right now
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  Speaker 5: because they cause all the problems in the world. But
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  Speaker 5: it never happened. But it never happened.
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  Speaker 1: As you can imagine, these comments caused a stir. They
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  Speaker 1: were widely condemned. The Holocaust Museum Twitter account put out
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  Speaker 1: a statement. Anti-Defamation League put out a statement. But then
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  Speaker 1: Roseanne's son, And Theo Vaughn, again, this comedian who's the
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  Speaker 1: host of the podcast she went on, said that it's
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  Speaker 1: obvious Roseanne was being sarcastic and that the clip was
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  Speaker 1: taken completely out of context. So Vaughn tweeted a longer
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  Speaker 1: version of the clip. Here it is.
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  Speaker 5: The truth is that Biden got 81 million votes by
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  Speaker 5: winning 36 counties. And that is just incredible.
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  Speaker 4: It really, really is.
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  Speaker 5: And, um, that of these 81 million supporters who gave
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  Speaker 5: him more votes than any president has ever gotten before,
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  Speaker 5: he came with a mandate. You can't say that like.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there was an election.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all a lie. The election was not rigged.
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  Speaker 5: 36 counties can give you 81 million votes.
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  Speaker 4: That's a fact. Because you're part Jewish, right?
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  Speaker 5: Part of your family is Jewish?
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  Speaker 1: I'm all Jewish.
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  Speaker 5: You're all Jewish.
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  Speaker 4: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of Hollywood is Jewish, yeah?
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  Speaker 4: It's like a.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of Hollywood is a Jewish business, really.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they started Hollywood.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But so was it weird?
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  Speaker 4: Just like rap.
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  Speaker 5: Black people started rap.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But, you know, and people should be glad that it's Jewish, too,
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  Speaker 5: because if Jews were not controlling Hollywood, all you'd have
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  Speaker 5: was fucking fishing shows.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: I wish people could see our faces the whole time
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  Speaker 2: that clip was playing. Dan literally disappeared from the frame.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to ask you guys, do you think
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  Speaker 1: the context helped or hurt her case?
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  Speaker 3: I think it definitely changed my Pulitzer vote for Theo Vaughn.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't seem to be really good at follow-up questions.
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  Speaker 3: That is unreal.
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  Speaker 4: I'm more confused. I'm more confused than ever with that context.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think I want any more
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  Speaker 4: context ever again.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so I, of course I was, this is when
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  Speaker 1: I was terminally online. I like went deep into all
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  Speaker 1: the tweets about this. And there's a lot of stories
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  Speaker 1: about this, a lot of headlines about this, not just
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  Speaker 1: the United States, but all over the world. As you
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  Speaker 1: can imagine, many headlines in Israel about this. So here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. If we're going to believe her that she
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  Speaker 1: was just being sarcastic about the Holocaust, which is again,
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  Speaker 1: something you always want to be sarcastic about. You always
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  Speaker 1: want to tell a lot of jokes about the Holocaust.
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  Speaker 1: That usually is a good thing. Then, She was also
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  Speaker 1: being sarcastic, of course, about the fact that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: did win the election and was just spouting a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of nonsense about Joe Biden in the election, which, of course,
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  Speaker 1: she was. He did not win 36 counties. He won
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  Speaker 1: many more counties than that. And also, you don't get
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  Speaker 1: 81 million people out of 36 counties, you fucking idiot.
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  Speaker 1: The 81 million people is all people all across the country.
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  Speaker 1: You don't just get the votes of the people in
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  Speaker 1: the counties you win in, you dumb.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sad that most people will only, like most of
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  Speaker 3: our content, will only hear this and not see it.
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  Speaker 3: So they will miss the fact that during this interview,
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  Speaker 3: Roseanne Barr is both smoking a cigarette and drinking some
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  Speaker 3: substance out of a pink toddler sippy cup. Yes, what
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  Speaker 3: was that?
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  Speaker 4: What was that? I was very distracted by that throughout
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  Speaker 4: the whole experience. The beginning, it was kind of giving
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  Speaker 4: Elon Musk on Joe Rogan. I was like, what's happening here?
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  Speaker 4: And then very quickly, it becomes a sippy cup. It's
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  Speaker 4: all very confusing.
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  Speaker 1: And then she goes from the election denial to the
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  Speaker 1: Holocaust joke and air quotes here, and then just seamlessly
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  Speaker 1: goes into Jews control Hollywood, something about fishing movies, and
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  Speaker 1: then black people and hip hop. I mean, it was wild.
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  Speaker 3: It was really bad. So I saw this organically as well.
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  Speaker 2: I saw both the Roseanne Barr video where she says
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump was the first woman president. I went down
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  Speaker 2: that same wormhole and then ended up with this video.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, as a Jewish person, I'm
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  Speaker 2: very offended by this. I went and watched and was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I guess I can see how she's joking. I hadn't
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  Speaker 2: seen like this whole clip though. And just like this,
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, I watched way too much of
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  Speaker 1: that whole interview because I was trying to find the
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  Speaker 1: part because I didn't see the Theo Vaughn clip of
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  Speaker 1: the whole context. First, I was just looking at the
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  Speaker 1: full interview and I was trying to find the right
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  Speaker 1: part of it. There's a lot of other crazy shit
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  Speaker 1: in there, let me tell you. And it was a
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  Speaker 1: big waste of my time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I do it all for the show.
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  Speaker 3: So five, did you do it for the show because
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  Speaker 3: you knew you had to have something here or you
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  Speaker 3: were in the middle of going down the rabbit hole
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  Speaker 3: and realized it could also be used for the show?
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I would say as soon as I went from the
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Trump is the first woman president clip to first seeing
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: her talk about the Holocaust. I was like, oh, that
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: could be a terminally aligned thing. But then I started
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: doing my research because I do my own research. Of course,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: that's what you're supposed to do.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: As you do, Kyrie Irving.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And then I went out. Then I really went down
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: the rabbit hole to just try to figure out, like,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: is it a joke? Is it not a joke? What's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: going on? And so that's when I had to watch
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the whole.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I agree with the ranking on you, which is not great.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: But I would say on one hand, I'm a zero
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: because I didn't even see this in Slack. So I
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: missed the whole thing. I am living in blissful ignorance
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: of Roseanne Barr's comments, this Theo Fawn person, any of that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: I'm also a five because I knew that in 2020,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Roseanne Barr said that Donald Trump was the first woman president.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, you did know that? Okay.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I did know that. Yeah.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: That's cool. That's cool.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, John, definitely terminal.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I'm terminal. Okay.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Am I supposed to be rating myself for that? Because
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I also am kind of in Dan's camp. Like this
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: did not even cross my radar. And if it had,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: I would not, I would have been the opposite of
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: inspired to go do my own research. I would have
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: been like, I don't want to touch that with a
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: 15 foot pole, fully the other direction. But yeah, I'm sorry, John,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: there's no coming back from that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Nice. That's what I was hoping for. Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: This one does fit on just something you guys talk
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: about on Pod Save America all the time. It's just
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: polarization is a real thing. Theo Vaughn is an incredibly
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: popular comedian. I see his clips pop up on my
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: algorithm every now and then. And there's a lot of
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: people who are just sitting there nodding along, just being like, yep,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: preach it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd never heard of him before this.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You see him on TikTok, Twitter, Instagram. Where do you
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: encounter Mr.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Vaughn?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: TikTok.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: TikTok.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: And it always has, Priyanka, you know, it always has
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like a video game under it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes. That's how they keep you watching like the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: things that can become a little boring or like start
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: to not make sense is they like have half and
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: half of a screen and And it's like, whatever, Candy Crush.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Not Candy Crush. It's like Temple Run. Like some kind
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: of video game like that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Subway Surfer.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. It's very weird.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: So I feel like we're all terminal for this.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: We're all just revealing we're very terminal for this. So
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: thanks for bringing out the worst of us, John.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm here for. Priyanka, when were you terminally
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: online this week?
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, after the last 20 minutes, I don't know
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: if I'm calling myself terminally anymore. I think my time
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: online has changed very drastically over the last few years.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: So terminally online, but in a different way. But for
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the purposes of the show, I feel like maybe the
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: past day or two when all the Barbie marketing has
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: kind of coincided with this Oppenheimer thing, marketing to become Barbenheimer.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: It is now in the New York Times. So I
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: feel like that probably brings me down to a zero.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I have never heard of this term.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: What?
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Never?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Before I saw you put it in Slack today.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Oh my God. No.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I've seen all the Barbie marketing and all the stories
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: about the Barbie stuff. I didn't know about the Oppenheimer thing. Okay.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, let's back up for a second. There's a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Barbie movie coming out. And on the same day that
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Barbie comes out, a movie called Oppenheimer about the atomic
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: bomb comes out. And these movies could not be more different.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you for explaining that. The movie about Barbie is
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: different than the movie about the atomic bomb is what
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's much grimmer. It's much more grim.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: But apparently there are all these people who are prepping
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: for the release day. I think it's like July 21st.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: They're prepping for this release day and they're trying to
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: do a double header and they're trying to decide like,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: which do I watch first? Which do I watch second?
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: How do I do it? They're making t-shirts. They're like doing,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: they're very committed to being fans of both, which I
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: found fascinating. I too did not know anything about Oppenheimer
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: until until I was online and was like, what are
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: all these people talking about? But yeah, apparently it is
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: called Barbenheimer. They're calling it, or Boppenheimer, your kind of
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: pick here.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I have so many questions about this. Someone tell me
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the Venn diagram of people who are so excited about
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the Barbie film that they are preparing for it a
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: month away, but also so excited about a film about
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the atomic bomb that they are also preparing for it
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a month in advance.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Can I help you here? Yeah. Yeah. So one, the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: American theater experience is dying. People are looking for reasons
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: to go to the theater. Marvel comic book movies, which
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: had been driving theater going are sort of falling before
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: our eyes. And so this, you have two movies from
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: two of America's greatest directors, Greta Gerwig on Barbie. Yeah.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: And Christopher Nolan on Oppenheimer.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a Christopher Nolan movie. Okay. Yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: And Christopher Nolan movies are event movies. And do I
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: seem interested in either of these?
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: No.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: But you can sort of see how this becomes a
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: thing for people to do who really like movies and
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: have been wanting non-Marvel DC fare to come to the
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: movies and happens to come on the same day.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Do these people have jobs?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: They work at Crooked. A lot of them work at Crooked.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: All of them are employed by you, actually.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You might as well just make July 21st some
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: sort of. day off or something because I wouldn't do
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: any pods that day.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Look, I want to see both movies. I mean, I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: don't know that I need to prepare right now. It's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: only June 28th, but I do want to see both movies.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Well, people are preparing their schedule. They're trying to decide
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: which tickets do I buy first? Because I think there
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: was one tweet that was like, people who are doing
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Barbie first are crazy. It's got to be like, you
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: have your coffee, you have your cigarette, you see Oppenheimer first,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: then you go to brunch, like decompress a little bit,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and then you do Barbie, and then you have like
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: a fun evening. So people are really kind of thinking
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: about how to approach... This double header. I also think
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: now that it's such a thing online.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Feature. Double, double feature. I got to say.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Double feature. I found a shirt. There are shirts on Etsy.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: They're like half and half. It's yeah, there's a lot here.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: There's a lot.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: There's some great online memes about this.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I presume none of these people have small children.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Probably not. Between the cost of a movie and the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: cost of a babysitter and the opportunity to spend what
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: would add up to almost six hours without your children.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure anyone with children would spend it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Before Charlie was born, I was talking to Ben Rhodes
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: about having kids and I was like, so what changes?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And he goes, here's the biggest thing that will change.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: You will never go to a movie again for years.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: He goes, it's a very specific thing because should you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: get out of the house and find a babysitter at
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: some point and you have a whole bunch of options,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you will select dinner with friends, parties. The last thing
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you will select is We will just go sit in
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a movie theater with this one night that we got
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: off from parenting. And he was right.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I know I've been in the movies one time since
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Kyla was born five years ago. And it was to
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: see DC super pets with Kyla. Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: We went to see Clifford, the big red dog with
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Charlie and he left after 20 minutes.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I heard that was scary
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: for kids.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: He just, he was over it. He wasn't scared.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: He wasn't into it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Get me out of here. Cause he, cause they can't,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: they don't sit still. For longer than 20 minutes.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, I thought I was bad. I'm like not usually
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: a regular moviegoer, but I did make it this year
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: to see Megan. So I guess I had something.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think you're very online, Priyanka.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I know. I don't think so either.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I'm very excited about the prospect of going to see
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: this double feature just for the meme, just because it
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: seems like such a.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Unique experience.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I just want to speak in defense of Priyanka here.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I think she is a little bit online for this.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I think, Elijah, you are too online to make that judgment.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Most people in this country, if you ask them what
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: fucking Barbenheimer is, they would not know. I would say
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: 95% of people have no fucking idea what that is.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: John, I appreciate that. I appreciate it. But I know
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: that this is kid stuff. So guys, but I know
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: that I'm terminally online and in very different ways. Like,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I'm terminally online in that, like, I have very... I
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: don't know. I'm on the real, real... Every day at
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. when they upload their new
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: things and I have all my saved searches. Like, I
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: don't know. I'm terminally online for shopping and... not Twitter anymore,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: which I think is good for me, but it hasn't
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: really solved the problem.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I call that progress.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: This is a very important point that relates to possibly
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: the core flaw in this show is being really, really,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: really online about one thing does not mean that you
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: are not online. If you're unfamiliar about being online with
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: a narrow set of interests is not better than being
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: online with a wide set of interests.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: That is true.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: But we're in agreement that the Holocaust denial Jews in Hollywood,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: that's a five.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: If you watched a YouTube video of Roseanne Bard doing
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: an interview with a MAGA comedian, that's a five.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: That's a five.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, John, your point is well taken. I was with
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: friends the other day. A friend asked if I wanted
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to go see Oppenheimer with him. And I was like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I want to go see Barbenheimer. And he said, what
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: are you fucking talking about? So yeah, Priyanka, we'll put
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you at a three. Maybe go to a doctor because,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you didn't know that story inside and out.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Go ahead and wrap up with mine. It's different.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: It's about other people being terminally online. It's not about
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: something I saw. It's a story that I've been Wanted
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: to tell for a while. John is a little bit
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: more familiar with it. It's about how a week or
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: two ago I went to the North Carolina GOP convention
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: because they were having it here in my hometown and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump was speaking right after he'd been indicted. So
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I thought I'd go, you know, I just like the content.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I just want to see what happens.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Is that a ticketed event? Did you go as media? Like,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I'm so curious.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: So I just rolled up, you know, I was just
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: at a Sheraton here in Greensboro, North Carolina, drove over,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: walked in. I said, hey, can I watch? And they said, yeah,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: there's an overflow room for uncredentialed people. So I went
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: in there and I was just sitting there with a
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: bunch of Republicans. There was a guy sitting in front
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: of me with what I would describe as like a
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: MAGA Hawaiian shirt. The woman sitting next to me had
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: a bunch of like Jesus X Trump gear on, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: crossover clothes. There were some guys in suits who were
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: clearly party officials. And so I was just kind of
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: watching it. And shortly after I got there, the convention
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: had their election for the state party chair. And the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: incumbent got up there. He made a speech about how
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: awesome he was and how much he'd accomplished. And then
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the challenger got up there. And it was clear that
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: he was running to the right of the incumbent. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: he was focused 100% on elections. This is where things
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: start to get online. The line that stuck out to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: me in this challenger speech was, much like Bud Light
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: has tainted their brand by endorsing extreme LGBTQ positions, the
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: NCGOP's brand is tainted by their stance on elections. We
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: don't even use paper ballots. So I thought that was
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: quite some rhetorical flair there.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: And then they moved on.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: To the voting for this position. And this is where
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: things started to go off the rails is because they
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: used an app. to do their voting for this.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Uh-oh, shadow app. Shadow app. Oh, God. Electronic ballots. And
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the app malfunctioned.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Of course it did.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: And the room turned on itself like crazy. They were
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: like fighting.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: You know, some woman, she interrupted and she said that
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: she was appalled and she felt like she was in
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a third world leftist country. People were demanding to nullify
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the votes. In the room I was in, people were
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: trying to, you know, get on the app and like
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: vote themselves to prove that it was like corrupt, that
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: it didn't work. And this went on for hours and
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: it was so tense. People were fighting around me. And
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: in the end, you know, they said that the incumbent won.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: but the challenger refused to concede. And he said that
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: this is a disgrace and that it was, this is
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the new Maricopa County.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Which by itself is quite an online thing to say.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And they didn't get through everything they needed
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: to get through.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: They needed to vote on a new party platform. They
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: needed to vote on a vice chair. They just didn't
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: do it because Trump was coming and this broken election
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: app took all their time and Everyone was disgusted.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: It was tense.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And they all like stormed out of the conventional to
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: get dinner. And I was like, wow, this was quite
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: something to see. And I guess what I was most
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: struck by was how every accusation was a conviction and
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: how this party that had well this kind of rhetoric
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: into its platform just ate itself in real time. It
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: was wild to see. So that is my term we
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: online this week.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Dominion strikes again. That who made the app?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: They did not say who made the app, but I
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: don't think it was Dominion.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Did the ghost of Hugo Chavez come and... Did he
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: grow up?
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Again, that's very online. That's very good.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Look, it worked its way in. All the jokes that
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: we have about it were right there in the.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Room, like playing out before your eyes. That's like terminally
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: online seeping into your offline life. That's a wild, rare.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: He has to be a zero, right? Yeah. He told
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: us a story about literally leaving the house.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: That's fair.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I understand the instinct to knock off a point for that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: But he's so aware of everything that's happened in the
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: real world and also online to see the patterns in
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: what happened in his offline life. He's then thinking about online.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: So I don't know. Your brain never left online.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I understood every very online reference they made. When they
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: said new Maricopa County, I was like, oh, yeah, I
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: get what you're talking about.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Unfortunately, we all get that.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I just feel like however we score this, we should
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: just recognize that we want to create an incentive structure
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: for Elijah to leave the house. Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: This is what I never know about this game. Is
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a high score good? Like, I came in today wanting
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: to get a five. And I fucking got it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: You won. Like, there's been a couple weeks in the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: past I felt a little embarrassed that I wasn't as
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: online as everyone. Everyone's like, of course, I saw that. Whatever,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you know? So I was like, you know what? This
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: is my week. step up.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, the last time I did the show with you,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: you spent the first seven minutes talking about how little
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: online you were and brought you back to a screen time.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Twitter is not on the phone.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Mazel tov.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Congratulations on your well-balanced life.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I just did an interview for offline and then I
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: came into this studio to do terminally online. So there's
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a lot going on in my life right now.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Every day, I just want to congratulate you for moving
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: from an iPhone to an iPad.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. It's not on the iPad. It's not on the iPad.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like I deserve some credit here that my
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: love of content made me go over to this event.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I put on a little disguise.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: That's true. That's what inspired you.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no. The VSA team's applauding you.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I put on khakis and like a polo shirt for
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: it so I would blend in better.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Look, you did original reporting from Crooked Media, which does
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: not happen often. You are a roving correspondent.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: My one note is the next time you go to
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: a Republican event like that, you should check in at
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: the media table and say, Elijah Cohn, Crooked Media. And
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: they'll be like, yeah, I bet.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Man, I was trying to hide it. Like, I was
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: really trying to hide it. I was like, I just
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: want to watch.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Just a guy.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Just here to watch. Just a politics enjoyer.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Just here to watch.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: I would love to be a fly on the wall,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: not just for your convention experience, but the experience of
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: you like trying to get dressed and looking at your
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: closet and being like, what will help me blend in
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: the most with this crowd? I feel like that would
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: be something I would enjoy.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like I have a window into this because
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: not to break down the fourth wall here, but we
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: had a meeting that Elijah was in one hour ago
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: and he was wearing a different T-shirt in that meeting.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: He was wearing a Budweiser T-shirt. But then he decided
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: to dress up for this by putting on a circa
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: 2017 Pod Save the World shirt. Yeah. Pre-AirPods. These AirPods
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: have wires in them. Oh, wow.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: A shirt so old that has wired AirPods on it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: You're lucky you didn't wear that woke Budweiser t-shirt to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the North Carolina event.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, what a world where just like six months ago,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: you would have chosen the Budweiser t-shirt as proof that
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: you were a red-blooded American. Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: No Target, no Budweiser.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: No Chick-fil-A.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: No Chick-fil-A.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're like six months away from not being
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: able to wear your Donald Trump shirt.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: To one of these things. Or, you know, Ron DeSantis
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: because he got married at Disney, you know.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Look, the real reason I took off the shirt was
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: because I have a meeting with our CEO and CFO
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that just got put on right after this, and they're
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: not going to like the Budweiser shirt. I don't want
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: to have to explain that one, so.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I think Lucinda would absolutely love that shirt.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: We'll never know.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: We'll never know. So what's my rating? Where did we land?
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Zero or I don't get any credit here?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get credit. I'm going to give you a two.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. I give it that. Okay. So I'm
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: a two. Deal with it at home.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: But at heart, you're like a five, just as a person.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: You should know that.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You're still the most terminally online person. Yes. Yes.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I don't want you to feel sad that you got
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: a two this week.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: In the best possible way. In the best possible way.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It's a compliment.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I feel so fulfilled. So, I'm a two.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I'll just deal with it at home. Dan and Priyanka
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: are threes. They just should go to a doctor, but
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: it's not that serious. And John, congratulations. The host of
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Offline is terminally online. That was bleak.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Don't tell Max.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I won't.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: He's so offline, he'll never know.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: He will know, yeah.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll go ahead and wrap up the show here
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: with an installment of the advice column, the best name
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: segment at Crooked Media.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Oh, right.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I forgot about this.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I didn't even know about this.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: How fun.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Dan knows when I name segments because it's political experts
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: react or advice column.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: No fun puns.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: No.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: It's time to the YouTube algorithm. Yeah. Stay Once.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: That's their name on Discord. Subscriber named Stay Once wants
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: to know, I'm a licensed attorney in Utah. And I'm
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: eyeing politics as a future. Given that I'm a liberal
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: leading moderate in a state where I appear to be
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: far left, would it be wiser to enter a traditional
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: electoral race or apply for an upcoming judicial opening? And
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: if you guys don't have an answer to that, just
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: what office would y'all.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Run for and where?
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Wow. I'd maybe apply for that judicial opening. No, I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: think unless they want to run in Salt Lake City.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: It really depends what city you live in.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to run for, you want to be
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: mayor of Salt Lake City? Maybe. I wouldn't be running
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: for anything statewide in Utah, unless the last name is Romney.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I have to know more about the judicial hiring process
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: in Utah to know. Is that a government appointment? Is
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: it magistrate, judge sort of thing with the civil service?
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Who knows? But I agree with John that if you
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: are living in a blue area, start local, right? Run
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: for your school board, run for city council. There are
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: blue areas. I mean, up until quite recently, Utah had
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: a Democratic congressman that could happen again.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Utah's weird. It's always a little bit more moderate.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So what offices will we run for and where? Dan
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: is now waiting out Chris Coons to retire in Delaware
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: because we got people running for Carper's seat, Lisa Blunt Rochester.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: We got now someone running for her seat, whose name
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: is Sarah McBride.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Sarah McBride, yep.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: There's only one more statewide Delawarean left there, and that's
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Chris Coons.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I would say Lisa Blunt Rochester and Sarah McBride are
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Highly qualified, highly appealing, actual residents of Delaware.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: You guys have joked about this Dan running in Delaware
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: so much that I think you're serious.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: I was wondering. I was like, oh, are we, is
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: that happening?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I like to keep stringing the audience along.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: That's also, it's a little bit of psychological torture for
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: my mom, who would like me to move home. Dan
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: has never said no.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'd want to run for Congress. I
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: think I'd want to. Like if there was one office
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to run for, it would be like governor.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, interesting.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Why is that? What's your logic?
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: If you're a governor, you can get a lot of
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: shit done. If I was younger, maybe, right? Like if
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you were going to live your whole life in Congress
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: and just kind of go up through the ranks. Yeah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that's one thing. But I don't know. I think it'd
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: be more fun to be a governor somewhere.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Any state?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: California is kind of a big one.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Hawaii.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Hawaii.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing is, no, you need a state. Well,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: you don't.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Need a state with a capital that would be a
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: good place to live. Right. Because some state capitals are
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the biggest city and that's great. But like, you know,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's living in Sacramento. How fun is Sacramento?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Hey, we sell out shows in Sacramento.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Sacramento's great.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I'm here to defend Sacramento.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Light the beam.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: You know what? I had one work trip to Sacramento
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: that was just in the middle of the summer where
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I got a bad vibe. But I should go back
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: with people who know Sacramento. I bet I would have
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a great time.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like you've opened up a content door to
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Sacramento now, and this won't be the last we've heard
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Priyanka, where would you run? What would you run for?
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I honestly feel like, I don't know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: if you were like governor, I would be like, oh, cool.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I'll come work in your office. Like, I don't know
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: if I feel like I want to be like the
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: one making the big decisions.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I hear you. Let me just say you're hired.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I like being on a team. I think it's fun.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I think I have good vibes. I think that is
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: like something I actually really would enjoy. That's probably what
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I would do.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Elijah, are you running in North Carolina?
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: You know, start a local North Carolina. Love Greensboro. Love
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: my city and my state. But if I was going
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: to be involved in politics outside of media, it'd definitely
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: be like ambassadorship to like, you know, France or somewhere cool.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Those are the best positions, appointed positions. That's the one
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you want to go for. Those people, they are the
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: ones who really got it figured out. And then you
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: just got to hope you're not like Gordon Sommelin and
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: get called to testify for some weird thing.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, a Gordon Sondland reference in 2023.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Terminally Online.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Or knowledgeable about his industry.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: That's on the top of the dome, too, I will say.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So that'll go ahead and wrap up Terminally Online this week.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you all so much for your questions. Thanks for listening.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: And we'll see you all next week. Bye, everyone.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Bye. Thanks for listening to Terminally Online. New episodes come
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: out each Saturday. And again, you can get more episodes
• 39:19
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