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8/17/26: Outrage Over USS Lincoln, Navy Retreats After Bases Destroyed, Trump Unapologetic On Gas Prices · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 2: have not been at sea nearly long enough. We've got
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  Speaker 2: to this situation of food shortages and these miserable conditions.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to go ahead and start with this
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  Speaker 1: disaster aboard the Abraham Lincoln, the record setting deployment of
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  Speaker 1: this aircraft carrier, where sailors report living in squalor. They
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  Speaker 1: are jumping off the ship in some cases, their family
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  Speaker 1: members are absolutely losing it on Navy officials. The wife
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  Speaker 1: of one of those sailors actually joined CNN to lament
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  Speaker 1: these conditions and to clap back at Donald Trump. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what she had to say. He didn't think the USS
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  Speaker 1: Lincoln's deployment has been quote long enough.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, I don't think the man thinks before
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  Speaker 5: he talks. And I'm just I'm really hoped. I was
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  Speaker 5: really hoping that at some point there would be a redemption.
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  Speaker 5: Try to redeem yourself at least a little bit with
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  Speaker 5: everything that you do and everything that you say, and
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  Speaker 5: try to redeem yourself. Have some sympathy, some empathy, take
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  Speaker 5: some accountability for what's going on with your military, your ships,
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  Speaker 5: in your war, in your war. It's infuriating. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we heard what Hegsath said yesterday. What the president is
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  Speaker 5: saying today, it's infuriating. It's saying, essentially saying that families
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  Speaker 5: are lying and service members are lying, even though the
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  Speaker 5: proof is right here on my phone. It is no fabricated.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody is lying. Everybody is is. It's infuriating that they're
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  Speaker 5: not taking accountability and not having any sort of sympathy
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  Speaker 5: for our service members that they claim to scream and
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  Speaker 5: shout that they support when it's politically you know, sound
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  Speaker 5: for them to use. Support our troops. Support our troops
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  Speaker 5: until our troops need support.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Support our troops until it's actually time to support them,
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  Speaker 1: and whenever you need them in a useless war. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what the President said that really set her off, saying
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  Speaker 1: that the deployment actually hasn't gone on for long enough.
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  Speaker 4: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 6: Well, no that ship is going to know that or not.
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  Speaker 7: That ship is moving.
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  Speaker 6: Right now, well very shortly, and it's being replaced with
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  Speaker 6: another very similar ship. No, no, no, not nearly long enough.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you everybody.
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  Speaker 1: So that was the president's say, it's actually not been
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  Speaker 1: long enough. And if you want to know what life
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  Speaker 1: aboard us, some of these carriers actually looks like let's
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  Speaker 1: put some of this actually up here on on the
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  Speaker 1: screen to be clear. Some of these we have labeled
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  Speaker 1: the source for what they actually come from. In some
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  Speaker 1: cases they're either unauthorized like posting. But this is a
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  Speaker 1: general flavor of what life aboard a US Navy vessel
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  Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty six can look like.
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  Speaker 4: This is from the US s.
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  Speaker 3: George Washington, I don't even know what I'm looking.
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  Speaker 1: At clearly labeled there, and obviously, I mean some of
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  Speaker 1: this has been released by a friend of the show,
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  Speaker 1: Seth Harp. You can actually see in some of those,
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  Speaker 1: you know, remember covering some of these images in the
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  Speaker 1: past from a similar record deployments or long times at sea.
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  Speaker 1: For the poor rations and food that are available. To
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  Speaker 1: put it into context, it is genuinely extraordinary. This carrier
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  Speaker 1: has not had a port call in two hundred consecutive days.
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  Speaker 1: One sailor in July said he had not stepped off
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  Speaker 1: the ship in all of twenty twenty six. After more
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  Speaker 1: than two hundred and fifty days deployed. They have officially
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  Speaker 1: set a US carrier record, which was previously.
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  Speaker 4: Set by the Dwight D.
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  Speaker 1: Eisenhower during the COVID nineteen pandemic. And remember, they were
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  Speaker 1: not actually engaged in continuous military operations. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that I think we should really
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  Speaker 1: highlight is it's not just about them being deployed at sea.
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  Speaker 1: It's also that they're actively engaged in the war effort,
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  Speaker 1: and so they are working round the clock. They barely
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  Speaker 1: get a day off it's like, you know, several hours
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  Speaker 1: on and off they get zero breaks. All of us
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  Speaker 1: can say, oh boohoo, you know, that's what you signed
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  Speaker 1: up for. What I was not aware of is that
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  Speaker 1: even the annals of World War two and others, you
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  Speaker 1: had many ships where if they were continuously you know,
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  Speaker 1: deployed in combat operation like this three to six months
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  Speaker 1: was considered insane. These people are on board obviously eight
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  Speaker 1: nine months now at this point. And remember, yes, the
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  Speaker 1: conditions obviously are better than they used to be in
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  Speaker 1: terms of supply, et cetera. But you know, nothing is
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  Speaker 1: going two hundred and fifty days basically with no breaks,
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  Speaker 1: continuously working round the clock. And of course you look
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  Speaker 1: in some cases having to shoot things down at the
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  Speaker 1: lawnch planes on the idiot will take a serious, serious toll.
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  Speaker 4: And I've said.
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  Speaker 1: Before, if we are engaged, like I said, against the Japanese, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the sailors would mind.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the American public would be outraged.
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  Speaker 1: This is for a ridiculous war to reopen the Strait
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  Speaker 1: up Hormoved, which was open the day that the war
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  Speaker 1: was launched, to denuclearize Iran, which was denuclearized the day
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  Speaker 1: before to you know, regime change Iran, whose regime is
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  Speaker 1: stronger today than it has been you know, honestly probably
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  Speaker 1: since the time of the protest, in which ostensibly this
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  Speaker 1: was all larged. I think that's why these family members,
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  Speaker 1: they have such a right to be furious, these sailors,
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  Speaker 1: their lives being used or their you know, their time,
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  Speaker 1: their valuable time, their lives being used purely as just
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  Speaker 1: chum for Trump and his you know, ridiculous egotistical nonsense,
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  Speaker 1: and then for them to downplay.
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  Speaker 4: What life is like for them.
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  Speaker 1: It's just disgusting.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's why it's captured the hearts of the
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  Speaker 4: nation completely.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean I feel I feel very much for
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  Speaker 2: the sailors that are on board. I feel almost war
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  Speaker 2: deepally for the family members because I would be sick
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  Speaker 2: with worry. I mean just thinking about what is their
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  Speaker 2: mental health. They have very limited communication to know what
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  Speaker 2: is going on on board these carriers, so it would
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  Speaker 2: be horrifying day after day just thinking about what is
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  Speaker 2: my loved one going through out there. I don't even know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with Trump, like he knows nothing about the military,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about how he's gotten out this
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  Speaker 2: cockaming the idea of like, oh, I want to move
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  Speaker 2: this tower on the carrier so it looks more like
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  Speaker 2: the World War II carriers, just because I like the aesthetic.
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  Speaker 2: Like that is the way this man thinks. And he's
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  Speaker 2: used to being CEO of a company where he can
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  Speaker 2: just act as a dictator and his dictates go out
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  Speaker 2: and then it's on everybody else to figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: And he's running this war the same exact way, where
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  Speaker 2: it's like, just go do it without having to think about, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: well there's a logistics supply chain, and here's how it works,
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  Speaker 2: and here's how long they've been at sea. I mean
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  Speaker 2: we already had the the Jared Ford which carrier, which
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  Speaker 2: is the newest one. This is the first one of
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  Speaker 2: the Ford class carriers had to be removed from the
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  Speaker 2: region because they had been over by Venezuela. Then they
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  Speaker 2: were marshaled over to the Middle East. They'd been on
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  Speaker 2: there forever and people were starting to lose, you know,
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  Speaker 2: lose it. And then this is again the new carrier.
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  Speaker 2: The toilets weren't working, there was a fire on board
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  Speaker 2: or something happened, and they had to be pulled from
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  Speaker 2: the region we want, they want the Trump regime and
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  Speaker 2: the country wants to be fight. Well, we don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be fighting this war, but they want to fight
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  Speaker 2: this war. But pretend like we're not at war. There's
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  Speaker 2: no public support, there's no you know, marshaling of the
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  Speaker 2: country behind it, so that we would be willing to
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  Speaker 2: endure the sacrifice for a long time. Of course, the sacrifice,
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice of service members falls on a very very small
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  Speaker 2: group of people. So it's like we just okay, we'll
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  Speaker 2: just send these people out. We don't really care what
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  Speaker 2: happens to them. I'm talking again from the elites in
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  Speaker 2: this country perspective, and we're not going to require from
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  Speaker 2: the country the pain and the sacrifice that would actually
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  Speaker 2: take to execute this war the proper way, because there's
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  Speaker 2: no support for it. So, you know, Trump thought, oh,
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  Speaker 2: before day and we be in and Ona here. That's
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  Speaker 2: clearly what they planned for. Aroan had other plans, and
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  Speaker 2: now we're in this disastrous situation with you know, knowing
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  Speaker 2: in sight for these sailors or for our country, or
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  Speaker 2: for the war.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just checked.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, seventy nine days is the longest deployment in the
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  Speaker 1: second World War the USS Essex then two thousand and two,
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  Speaker 1: the USS Theodore Roosevelt was one hundred and sixty days,
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  Speaker 1: and that was considered crazy at the time, and now
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  Speaker 1: we're at two hundred and forty four.
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  Speaker 4: Just to put it into perspective for what.
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  Speaker 1: These people are going through, and you know, in terms
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  Speaker 1: of what they've done, it says that they have launched
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand sorties, they have dropped one point five million
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  Speaker 1: pounds of ordinance, and that the carrier has spent two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty days deployed. I mean, to keep that
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  Speaker 1: machine running is insanity. I mean probably cost billion, probably
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  Speaker 1: literally tens of billions of dollars, probably just a month
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  Speaker 1: in order to keep that thing afloat. Now, let's put
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  Speaker 1: a four up here on the screen. In terms of
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  Speaker 1: what the family members are saying. This was one which
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  Speaker 1: was reviewed by distouched. They said family member here, family
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  Speaker 1: and friends on the boxer. This is another ship have
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  Speaker 1: been out for so long and are not receiving care packages.
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  Speaker 1: Women have run out of feminine hygiene items due to
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  Speaker 1: no resupply. They pack enough in some extra for deployment,
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  Speaker 1: not all for extension, no port call. They're begging us
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  Speaker 1: to send them more extra pads and tampons so they
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  Speaker 1: could share them out. None of our packages are delivered.
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  Speaker 1: The Navy is denying this. Has put a five up
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  Speaker 1: here on the screen. Sent Coom put out this report.
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  Speaker 1: Reports emerging saying this are false. The ship has had
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  Speaker 1: four port visits since departing San Diego in March. The
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  Speaker 1: ship crew has been at sea for less than two months,
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  Speaker 1: including a ship store and medical office of Boxer Amphibious
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  Speaker 1: Group remains fully equipped and prepared to execute all aside missions. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: Boxer has also done a significant amount of combat actually
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of the missiles and other things that
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  Speaker 1: they have launched. We have similar reports now that are
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  Speaker 1: coming out to deny a lot of these things that
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  Speaker 1: are beginning to filter out from these family members. Sent
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  Speaker 1: Coom itself found it such a crisis that they actually
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  Speaker 1: dispatch the commander of Sencom Admiral Cooper to the USS
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  Speaker 1: Abraham at Lincoln. Let's put his statement up here on
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  Speaker 1: the screen.
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  Speaker 4: He says, my.
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  Speaker 1: Time aboard Lincoln yesterday was all inspiring. I wish every
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  Speaker 1: American could see the crew in action. You would be
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  Speaker 1: with absolute pride when witnessing their Camaradie, teamwork and resilience.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Admiral, let a crew on board, let some
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  Speaker 1: journalists on board, and let's talk to them. Why not
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  Speaker 1: let let a crew on board. No cameras could stay off,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk to him a little bit and we'll
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  Speaker 1: see what they actually think. Here's what he says. An
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  Speaker 1: important fact of the Navy's eleven carecraft carriers, of Lincoln
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  Speaker 1: currently has the lowest number of cases related to mental health.
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  Speaker 1: One speculation I saw is because those who have been
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  Speaker 1: suffering mental health episodes were actually taken off the ship.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, in terms of the number on the ship,
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  Speaker 1: it might be true.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that all is perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Find any of the nearly four million veterans today and
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  Speaker 1: they will likely tell your service to see it for
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  Speaker 1: long periods isn't for everyone. It's uniquely challenging and tough.
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  Speaker 1: Every single one of us, including me, reacts to stressors
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  Speaker 1: in a different way. I've long believed mental health is
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  Speaker 1: another aspect of individual health and requires our attention just
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  Speaker 1: like physical health, and I have applaud their leadership for
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  Speaker 1: stepping up and making mental health crew resilience a leadership
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  Speaker 1: priority to all our sailors keep up the great work,
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  Speaker 1: fair winds and following seas on the journey home as
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  Speaker 1: it is now finally dispatch. But the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: had to bring this ship home after so long deployed.
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  Speaker 1: I think that when they dock and that when they
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  Speaker 1: get out and can talk to the local reporters in
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  Speaker 1: their port, I mean, it's going to be we are
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  Speaker 1: going to learn some horrific things I think that happened
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  Speaker 1: aboard that ship. Let's put the last one up here,
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  Speaker 1: a seven USS Abraham Lincoln. Families have pressed the Navy
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  Speaker 1: over sailors mental health. I know that this was covered
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  Speaker 1: last week, but it is really important to go through
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  Speaker 1: some of the things that have been brought directly to
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  Speaker 1: Navy leadership at one point things, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: pretty crazy. The family members aboard actually god an audience
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  Speaker 1: with the Acting Secretary of the Navy hung cow and
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  Speaker 1: their senior officials in some of these town hall meetings.
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  Speaker 1: So it doesn't happen every single day. In one case,
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  Speaker 1: spouse tearfully told officials she said received messages from her
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  Speaker 1: husband saying I hope he does not wake up tomorrow. Officials,
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  Speaker 1: then presiding over the meeting, did not directly respond, but
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  Speaker 1: stressed the sailors aboard the ship had access to mental
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  Speaker 1: health workers as well as chaplains and doctors. The officials
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  Speaker 1: also said the service isn't working to send more mental
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  Speaker 1: health professionals to the ship. I mean, when you have
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  Speaker 1: to come out with a statement basically saying, yeah, life
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  Speaker 1: aboardership is hard, we command, you know, commend them and
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  Speaker 1: all that. You know, things have got to be bad.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that there's enough reports. Now. You got
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  Speaker 1: people who have jumped off the ship in an effort
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  Speaker 1: to try to get evacuated and finally just end their service.
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  Speaker 1: You have all of these active duty sailors families that
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  Speaker 1: are coming out. One guy's watching his kid be born
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  Speaker 1: on FaceTime. I mean, it's just a nightmare for all
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  Speaker 1: these people. So I think what this does again is
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  Speaker 1: captures the futility of the war itself. If the entire nation,
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  Speaker 1: you know, wants to suffer hardship, and we have ration
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  Speaker 1: at home and a draft and we're fighting an enemy
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  Speaker 1: that we can all agree on in Congress has declared war,
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  Speaker 1: it's one thing. But this is just executive for no function,
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  Speaker 1: for no reason, which has left us less safe pay
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  Speaker 1: and higher gasoline. These poor guys, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you just have you have to feel for them, because
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  Speaker 1: they genuinely, you know, instead of using ground troops, we
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  Speaker 1: just think, oh, there's no sailor, they're not being killed.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the toll. This is the toll that's
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  Speaker 1: being taken on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. And it's also indicative of how
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  Speaker 2: little strategy and thinking we put into this and how
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: much our leadership class doesn't care about service members.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the truth.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: If you again, I come back to the Epstein files
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: and the way that the people in those emails, in
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: the Epstein class, the way they talk about the rest
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: of us, they don't see them fully as human beings.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Think about Trump in his life, I mean, he got
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: out of Vietnam service because he was rich and he
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: was able to find a doctor say oh yeah, burnt
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: bonespurs because you know, he doesn't think that he should
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: have to serve. So he was able to get out
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: of the draft, whereas people who were lower socioeconomic were
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: not able to avoid service the way he is. So
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: he has no empathy for these people.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: He says they should be out there even longer for him.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it's all about his ego, it's
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: all about him being a great man in history, and
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: he doesn't think at all about what the toll is
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: going to be. And as you're about to see in
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: this next segment, the morale among our war fighters does
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: not seem to be very high. They don't seem to
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: be at least a number of them too bought into
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: whatever the project is here with Iran. Where again, any
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: of the original objectives that were stated, we are further
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: away from accomplishing those objectives than we were before we
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: ever launched this insane war.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so and yeah, he'll go down in history,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: all right for sure. How are our boys feeling out there?
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: And boys and girls? Boy, what a Trump wants to say?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Boys and in some cases girls. So let's put this
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: up here on the screen from our great friend of
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: the show, Treja Parsi. He says, this image was sent
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: to me from the field. These are the messages that
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: servicemen and the Persian Gulf have scribbled on the dust
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: of an aircraft flap. As one service member told me,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: what people in media don't understand when they compare pass
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: conflicts to this one this operation has no morale behind it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: That makes a world of difference to the service members
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to deployed to undesirable place locations indefinitely.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: So let's zoom in.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Let's take a little bit of a look here, let's
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: go to the next one. So here we have Bebe's cocks,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I heartflock cameras.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: What else do we have here? Sucks wieners, that's typical, sucks.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Wieners and balls. Be a good gooy and do what
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Israel tells you to do, and then spaghetti whenever somebody
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: was playing Hangman. Some more Peace deal number sixty four
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: incoming dot dot dot all this for the Holy Land.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I love Israel, Good goy, Operation Epstein Fury. Do we
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: have any more that we can highlight here? Yeah, there
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you go, Wolt. We've been trying to figure that one out.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: We're not entirely sure what it is.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: What did you say?
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: That? Waste of living tissue?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe waste of living tissue?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Again, not a really hopeful sentiment being expressed there.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: If you want to, if you want to reach out
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and tell us what Wolt means, please please do so.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what morale looks like. Also, here's the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: numbers that I have in front of me, there's no
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: official tally. Exit polls reveal that sixty five percent of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: American service members voted for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: so probably the most pro Trump demographic outside of like
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: boomer white men.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Honestly, maybe even that might be floor.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So just to put it into perspective, also, I'm just
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: going to take a guess that these are enlisted men.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: The exit polls show that the enlisted men probably voted
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: eighty percent for Donald Trump, something along those lines. Again,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: just to put you there's probably again the most pro
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Trump like coalition ever in history. So for them to
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: be upset about this is it makes sense. Their lives
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: are literally the ones on the line, Yeah, suffering out
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: there dodging missiles for nothing.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: And of course this has an impact on your mental
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: state when you know you're asked you're stuck on this
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: aircraft carrier indefinitely. The leadership class is telling you it
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: hasn't gone long enough. Are denying reality just outright like
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: claiming that your spouse's and loved ones are lying about
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: what's going on. And you know, if you were engaged
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: in a fight that you felt really proud of that
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you were really passionate about, and you're like, Okay, this
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: is tough, but I'm doing this for my country keeping
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: people safe. It's a righteous cause that has a major
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: impact on your mentality when you're like, I'm doing this
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: for Operation Epstein Fury and because Israel like has blackmail
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: on the president or strong armed us, or because Trump's
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: such an.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Idiot that he bought that.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: You know, if we didn't do any they were going
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and bomb ran without us, and then
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: we'd be at risk, and so we have to do
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it too. Like that is the way they're thinking about this.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: They're like, we're here for Israel. We're not even here
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: for our own country. What is going on? They literally
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: are like, we have been sent to die for Israel,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm asking being asked to suffer indefinitely on this
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: carrier and eat you know, three hundred calories of complete
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: disgusting slop at every meal. Imagine how taxing that is.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is again, this is not they're just
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: hanging out on a ship. That would be terrible too,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: even with the you know, with the situation. But they
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: are engaged in rigorous wartime activities. They are the ones
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: who are responsible for dealing with this blockade and any
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of the tit for tat that's been going on. This
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: is all run from these carriers. That's that really is
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the center of you know, how this operation is unfolding
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: at this point. So this is very taxing situation and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you're doing it for a cause that you do not
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: believe in, that you do not even think is good.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: For our country.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: That's that alone is devastating mentally, that you're sacrificing and
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: suffering for something that you don't even believe in.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: And that's what this is indicative exactly.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And you know, you don't have to be a historian
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to say, if that end mass happens, some crazy stuff
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: begins to happen in your society. I was thinking too
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: with the aircraft flap. Again, we don't know exactly where
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to assume that it's on the ground,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: but just considering the dust. But if we think about that,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: these guys, remember it's not just carrier like, oh, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I've been deployed to see some of them have died
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: like many Actually the majority of those casualties have come
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: from either drones or missiles. Incoming to an air base,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: like those three servicemens just recently died in that attack
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: in Jordan. So imagine like you're not only just like
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: fixing up an airplane, like your life is on the line.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: You might know somebody who died. You might have been
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in proximity to a serious attack for a war that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you don't even necessarily believe in or want to. And
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: it's just the casual nature which you're like, life is
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: being used in this game, which is a tale as
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: old as time. But in today's world, in a democratic
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: society like that is supposed to have consequence, and I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: think that it obviously should. And just to give everybody
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: an idea. Again, in the cavalier nature in which Trump
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: is willing to embrace this again is returning to threats
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: against Oman saying that will bomb the shit out of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: them if we get in their way, along with a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: long die tribe issue. To Fox News this morning, let's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: take a listen.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, guys, good morning.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: I just got off the phone with President Trump, who
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: discussed the situation with Iran as the sixty day Memorandum
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: of Understanding expires. The President told Fox News Iran should
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: raise the white flag of surrender. He went on to say,
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: I have no time schedule. I'm not in a hurry.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: The President indicating that the US naval blockade is continuing
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: to put new economic pressure on the Iranian regime despite
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: what the Iranians have said publicly. He said they're good
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: poker players, but they're dying, and that the midterms in
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: the United States have nothing to do with the President's thinking. Now.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I asked the President.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: About these parallel talks that are taking place between Iran
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: and Oman about control of the Strait of Hormuz, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: the President told Fox News, if Oman gets in the.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Way, will bomb the s out of them.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: We went on to talk about a variety of different
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: regional topics, including the US stockpiles of weapons that are
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: currently stationed in the Middle East. The President says, what
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: we've used so far is peanuts. He went on to
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: say the United States has a lot of mid level
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: weapons and that many of the more advanced systems. The
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: President says, we're given away by President Biden to Ukraine,
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: for example, when we're talking about air defense that is
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: needed right now in the Middle East.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Biden's fault.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Oh look, I mean plenty of smoke criticism here for
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the last five years about the number of munitions that
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: we pissed away to Ukraine. But no, there is no
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: objective reality where you can even remotely compare the two,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: especially whenever it comes to the more critical munition like
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that and others.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, well, and also okay, so the stock files
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: were low, So then don't launch an unnecessary war that
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: has been a complete disaster.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Like you made your choices here, Obviously, I don't think
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: anyone is buying this like, oh, it's Biden's fault on
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the economy or on the stockpiles situation.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Bullshit.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: And the other thing, Salary that I've been thinking about is,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: you know, part of the problem too, is the fact
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: that Trump has built a culture of yes men around him.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So any of these challenge logistical challenges are, hey, we
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: don't have the ships, we don't have the munitions, we
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: don't have the supply lines to be able to pull
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: off what you want to pull off. People are too
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: afraid to say that because they know if they tell him, well,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that's not possible, they're going to be fired. They're going
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to be at the very least on the ounce and
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: have all of their power diminish, and very likely they'll
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: be pushed out entirely. And we've seen that with a
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: number of top military brass throughout the Trump regime.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: So this is what happens.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can go back to any sort of
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: like authoritarian kind of You look at the Soviet Union
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: and you know the way that their ability to communicate
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: leadership falls apart. This is what happens when you create
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: that climate where you will not brook any descent, you
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: will not accept any bad news. All you want to
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: hear about is rainbows and sunshines and puppies and yes, sir,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: how high sir.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: This is what that leads to.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Having done my own you know, I talked about that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: in the early days of the war. And then obviously
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan's book is the best of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the subject because they can literally recreate I do not
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: think that there is a modern disaster in American history
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that had less pushback in the situation room than this one.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: There was more descent over Vietnam inside the White House
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: than there was over this one. There was more descent.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean Colon Powell, for all of his crimes before
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the United Nations lying about WMD and yellowcake uranium inside
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Lornce Wilkerson, who we could talk to actually maybe about
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: this in the future. They were inside being like, this
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: is a nightmare, this is a disaster. The Army Chief
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of Staff, General Eric Shinseki testified for Congress, this will
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: not work and we will need four hundred thousand troops
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: in this case. General the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Staff,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: you know, General Kine. He gave a very tepid pushback
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: in the oval or in the situation room, barely gave anything.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: By the reconstruction of what's happened, there was one comment
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: from JD in the lead up where he's like, I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: don't think you should do this, and it's not gonna
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: workport you. But also I mean, hey, what else is
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: he going to do? It works for the guy, But.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I mean it shows you how even the most like
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: that's the furthest that.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Anyone would go, yes, that was it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Even that has to be of course wrapped in. But sir,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: whatever you want, sir. Of course you're the great leader
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: and you'll under you know best what to do, so
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: of course all support.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: There was one flash change. Joe Kent's resignation and no
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: disrespect took a tremendous amount of curren sub cabinet official.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: It's not somebody all the way up at the top.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: That was it and we got nothing else. And to
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: this day it's honestly worse with Pete Hegstath and they're
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the reels that they put together for him. It's like
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: AI slop but military, where he just Trump goes into
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a trance watching shit blow up. It's just like Johnson,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you know, looking at various different things and trying to choose, oh,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: we blew this up today, we blew that up today.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: It's like for what to what end? But that's how
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: it's the situation.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Was right now, I was thinking less of Johnson and
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: more of like your boomer parent or grandparents scrolling Facebook
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: and thinking that the AI videos of like the fat
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: lady collapsing the bridge is real or whatever. That's more
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: what I would equate it to, Like, that's the world
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: he has constructed for himself. True, he doesn't want to
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: live in reality. He wants to construct his own reality.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: He wants to be fed only fake information that supports
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that reality. And guess what when you decide to get
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: into a war. When you decide to commit our nation
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: to a war, there is an actual reality that you're
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: going to have to deal with, and of course the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: people who are going to have to face that reality
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: head on first and foremost are going to be our
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: service members on the front line.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Right, Let's talk about the reality with logistics. Let's get
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to it. Turning now to the logistics crisis, how did
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: all of this happen? It again demonstrates the fragility of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the American Empire and how Iran really was able to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: show all of the cracks within it. Let's put this
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: up here on the screen. The navy carriers problems are
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: tied to attacks on the US base early in the war,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: so basically on the war's very first day, when Iranian
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: missiles and drones destroyed much of the US Navy base
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: in Bahrain. It had served as the key logistics hub
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: for decades. With that hub gone, along with several other
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: regional ports like Flujehira in the UAE within all Iranian
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: missile range, the Pentagon was forced to shift its main
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: resupply point to Diego Garcia, which is obviously in the Maldives.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: So that means twenty two hundred miles from where the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: carrier strike groups are operating is where their main logistics
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: base was, as opposed to a few hundred miles. So
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the reason why, then that the deteriorating crew conditions and
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: all that are linked is because you just have a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: shortage of basics suppli It's gotta come from thousands and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: thousands of miles away. And so when you go nine
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: months without the port, it's because the port they would
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: go to was the Bahrain. So when you put those
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: two things together and you have Diego Garcia obviously being
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the main logistics hub, you add several layers of logistical
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: complication even bigger than that. And this makes sense. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: kept wondering, I go, why is Trump so obsessed with
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Diego Garcia. He was constantly hammering the British for like
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: giving it away and changing the treaty under which it's
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: under which it's administered. Now it all makes sense, is
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that we have been so pushed out of those Middle
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: East and logistics bases that Diego Garcia becoming the number
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: one hub for logistics, which again none of us really
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: knew anything about. This means that for once you can
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: see an actual forcible retreat of the United States military
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and changing of logistics is what threw this entire thing
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: into complete chaos.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And it actually could have been even worse, is what
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: that reveals. Because Starmar originally did not want to let
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: us use Diego Garcia, and you know, Trump really like
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: bullied and cajoled him into doing it. But no, the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: reality is that we have to we have to get
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: ships from the from Asia all the way to Diego Garcia,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: which is just this little island, and then be able
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: to you know, to supply carriers from there.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: So you've got this very long distance to travel.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: By the time the goods even get to Diego Garcia,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: you're already having to deal with shelf life issues. So
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the real key here is that we did not anticipate
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: that Iran would be able to destroy our bases throughout
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the region. You know, our entire logistics supply chain strategy
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: was built on this basing approach. So when that basing
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: approach was taken off the map, we were left scrambling,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and that leads directly to the situation that our sailors
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: find themselves in today. We've both been watching sal How
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: do you say his last name Markagliano.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know his last name.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: We'll go with that.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Shout out to you, sal We were trying to get
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: him on the show today.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Hey, let's do work on that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: But in any case, he has a great YouTube channel,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: he says, shipping and logistics expert, former military himself understands.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: The stuff so deeply.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Can put this tweet from him up on the screen
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and really go and watch the video that is linked
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: in this tweet because you will understand both the problems
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: today and also the historical context you were bringing up
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: how even in World War Two they we didn't have
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: this long of sailors being on board ships. We had
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to figure out a supply chain. It worked much more
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: effectively than what is working here. In any case, he says,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: is logistics the US Navy's greatest weakness. The Lincoln case
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: study and analysis of the USS Abraham Lincoln's two hundred
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: and sixty six day deployment, including two hundred days in
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: a combat zone and the reported mental health told on
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the crew due to prolonged operations and resupply delays. So
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: here's what he points to. Wartime tempo versus peace time support.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: US Navy is currently conducting wartime level op ration strikes
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: and blockades with a logistics infrastructure designed for peace time.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: The gutting of the logistics fleet A look back at
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: the nineties policies shifts that replace Navy crude auxiliary ships
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: with civilian crewed military sealift Command vessels, merging station shuttle fleets,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and reducing overall capacity. So this was after the end
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of the Cold War. All Right, we don't need all
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: of these extra ships that do the supply chain all
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: of that stuff, So we're going to just rely on
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the basis and get let those ships come out of service.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Loss of forward bases Why. The loss of Central Persian
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Gulf basis has forced the Navy to rely on distant
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: hubs like Diego, Garcia and Singapore, drastically increasing resupply transit time.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: So that's as a result of the Iranians effective strategy here, the.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Tyranny of distance.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: A comparison of modern logistics challenges in the Arabian c
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: versus massive dedicated replenishment groups used during World War Two
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: campaigns like Okinawa and the Invisible Force. Why logistics remains
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the bottom end of military finding until you find yourself
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: in a situation like this where food, fuel, or ammunitions
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: start to run low, and why that mindset must change
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: maintain a viable global fleet. I am by far not
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: even close to military expert. I am a complete group
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: when it comes to this stuff. Even I know that
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the first rule of war is make sure that you
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: can supply the troops. And we failed on even that
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: very first basic level as evidenced here. And you know
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Starmar is no longer the prime minister in the UK.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: You've got burnhaman now who's trying to position himself as
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: war of a progressive and can see you know, sentiment
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: in the UK which is also very very against the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: traditional relationship with Israel, very opposed to the Iran war.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And so there's no guarantee that Burnham continues allowing us
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to use Diego Garcia the way that we have been.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So we are incredibly, incredibly vulnerable here through our own
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: faulty thinking, lack of strategic planning, and complete failure.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the designers like General Marshall and these people, they
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: are rolling in their at this disaster. It honestly boggles
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the mind that this could happen in the year twenty
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: twenty six, but it was all predictable. We had no
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: drone preparation, we had no ability to counter them. In
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the beginning. We launched the war thinking that they were
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a paper tiger, and they showed us on day one.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: And now you got guys out in the middle of
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the ocean. Honestly, I worried you got no fresh food.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's scary, like scurvy.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean maybe you could take vitamins
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: these days.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor or anything, but mount nutrition and
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: working twenty hours a day, it seems going to take
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: a toll on anybody, no matter what kind of medical
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: resources that you have access to. Put B three also
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: up on the screen, just to underscore all of this.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: The US, I honestly, I cannot believe this. The US
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: has now pulled its last aircraft carrier in Asia as
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Trump has to focus on Iran and the Western Hemisphere.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: So what they show is that the USS George Washington,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: is now departing the Pacific and is expected to replace
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the link in the Middle East. The Lincoln's time at
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: sea had originally had to be extended, like we talked
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: about earlier, but as they show, now the lack of
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: a US carrier in the Pacific will be short lived
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: for the next couple of months, but it does show
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: how open ended operations with Iran are running the sailor's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: ragged and that they're going to have to get to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: get another carrier to the Asia Pacific. They're going to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: have to sprint and force another group of sailors to
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: probably suffer in exactly the same way that these guys.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: If this shows you, I mean, this is the crown
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: jewel of the American Empire is its ability to project
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: power on a blue water ocean. That's why we have
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it in the first place. And it's not for you know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: just for the military industrial complex. It's so that we
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: all get to buy cheap televisions and we get to
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: enforce the free trade, which is obviously not free. But
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the entire reason that most people were okay with it
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: in the post World War two era is yes, it
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: protects our ability to prosper as a nation.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Obviously been huge chinks in all that over the years.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: But if you were to choose Iran or South Korea,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: let's for no reason at all, I'll bring up that Iran,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Israel or South Korea which one would you choose? Which
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: one would you choose? Would you choose the eleventh largest
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: trading partner with the United States, which has been an
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: ally for literally decades, which bled with America in Vietnam,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: which we defended, literally died tens of thousands of Americans
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: died trying to defend South Korea, and which is vitally
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: important to the US economy. Or this place which has
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the Holy Temple and ways okay, all right, and which
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: we have to fund the entire or I mean, honestly,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: even just look at a balance sheet, look at Iran
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: versus Israel in the long run. Which would you rather
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: actually take a look at and say, oh, we should
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: have better relations with this country. I mean, it is crazy.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: And yet between this move and I cannot let this
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: go be six. Let's put it up here, because this
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: is the this is what our future is going to
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: look like. Trump, based on my very good relationship with
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Kim Jong un, I am not happy with the fact
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that the United States has long ago agreed to participate
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: in joint military exercises with South Korea. These exercises are
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: not only costly, which much of these costs paid for
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: it by the United States, but send a signal that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: totally inappropriate and hostile to a country that, as long
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: as Donald J. Trump has been president, has been unthreatening
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: and respectful. Therefore, and based on the fact that it's
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: too late to cancel, I have instructed the Secretary of
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Warpete Hegsett to substantially reduce the joint military exercises. While
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: somewhat unrelated question mark, I recently asked the President of
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: South Korea if they would like to join us in
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: the denukerization of the Islamic Republic. They said, no, thanks,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: thanks for your attention to this matter.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Can't blame them.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the country which we economically nuked with their
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: stock market for their AI nonsense, which we destroyed their
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: consumer sector with their energy prices, which provides Samsung and
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: memory chips to the entire globe, we're saying, oh, that's
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: not worth it. Oh and by the way, where did
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: we strip a bunch of bad missiles out of South Korea?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: And now this is the future the neocons have bought us,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: this future. We have no carrier in Asia, we have
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: no bad missiles, and North Korea's got a nuke. So
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: guess what you gotta you know, you got to give
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it up. And I'm not even saying I don't support
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: better relations with I supported the summit. I think doing
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a deal with Kim Jong un is the only rational
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: thing because he has a nuclear weapon. But just think
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: about the downstream consequences. We cannot defend South Korea now,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: we probably never could, but now we especially can. And
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: now what does it mean South Korea has to choose
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: we get a nuke, which is very likely now in
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: my opinion, in the next decade, I think they'll have
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon or or they're just kick us out
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: and they have to do a better deal with China.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: And remember they got so much shit back into I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: think it was twenty eighteen when we deployed that bad
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: radar to South Korea. China cut them off and economically
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: waged war on them. They'd stopped all their tours from
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: going to South Korea. They took a several billion dollars
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a year hit inside Korea. The government said it's worth
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: it for our long term security relationship with America. We
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: just fucked them triply. I mean, it's over, and so
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: think about what the future.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: What is time if.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: You're Taiwan or South Korea or Japan. Good luck to
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you man, seriously. I mean, it's one of those where
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you've got your security of relationship with America, but you're
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: going to start seeing all kinds of side deals because
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I read the Asian press every day. The Japanese and
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the Australians are signing things, They're doing all kinds of
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: security meetings and things between the two of them. I mean,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the Empire is shattering before our eyes, and it's all
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: because you rung on An Israel. It's insanity, but we
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: would choose this over them.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I mean Iran and Israel.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: The Iran War has revealed how weak and retrograde the
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Empire really was. We turned out to be the paper tigers, truly,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and it's very difficult to wrap your head around what
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: that is going to mean for the future because our
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: entire ability to basically scare the world into compliance. Oh,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: we've got all these you know, bases all around the world,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: and we can project power anywhere. We could protect our allies.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: You better not cross this like it's done. That world
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: is over. And so we've talked to here a lot
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: about preparing for a multipolar world and being in a
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: multipolar world and how that's going to go, and what
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: that's going to look like, how the US should change
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: and adjust. There is very much a possibility of that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: we are heading into a unipolar world where we are
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: not the uniporl I mean, that is very real direction
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: that is possible on the table at this point because
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: we are doing such an incredible job of shattering every
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: useful illusion about the American Empire that exists. So yeah,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: if you look at China's technological advancement, where they are,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: they are so far beyond us in terms of drones,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: They're so far beyond us, in terms of ev there
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: may be six months behind us in terms of frontier
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: AI capabilities. We had to start thinking a lot differently
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: about the way we comport ourselves in the world. But
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: on this North Korea South Korea piece in particular, this
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: just strengthens the logic of acquiring nuclear weapon exactly where
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: in North Korea they clearly made the right play here.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Over the long term, South Korea's got to feel like fools, like, Okay, well,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I guess that's the path we need to pursue.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Iran.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: The whole supposed reason we're in here is prevent them
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: from pursuing a nuclear weapon. The logic for them to
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: get a nuclear weapon has never been stronger than it
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: is right now, and they are going to be countries
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: all over the world that are thinking the same exact thing.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: This is the ultimate way to preserve our sovereignty, to
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: get it so that you know, the US doesn't mess
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: with us, and that we have an ability to, you know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: maintain our own domestic policy and conduct ourselves in the
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: world the way we want to. So it truly is
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the dawn of a new era. And it's very difficult
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: to predict how all of these dominoes are ultimately going
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: to fall, because there's already been a lot of things
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: that have happened that I could never have predicted, you know.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: And Iran at the beginning was like we want the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: US out of the region in particular. I think everybody
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: looked at that and like, wow, that's joke. That's what
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: a joe Like, who are you to be able to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: say that. You don't have the strength to be able
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: to say that. That's a delusion, that's like a religious
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: fanatics delusion. And now here we are like it's basically done.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: We're having to We've had to retreat all the way
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: to Jordan, and our service members are getting blown up there.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: You know, they got they were We had significant casualties
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: and deaths there, and that's basically what has led to
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: this new pause in the war because we didn't want
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: to take further losses.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: So those bases that.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: We had in the Middle least like that's never coming back,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: not certainly in the way that it was. And those
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Arab allies do not want us back because it made
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: them a target. They're desperate, most of them for this
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: war to end because they see the dire consequence.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: And look at what happened. You have the Saudi deal
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: with Turkey and Pakistan, So say, zact Rowdy has now
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a side defense.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Is it real?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we'll find out. I hope
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: not to find out.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: We might.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: You have all these reports that Egypt was strong armed
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to not join into this pact. I mean, that would
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: be a serious Egypt It's been so long we forget.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: But you know the balance of Egypt and Israel is
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the traditional American foreign policy. You pay off both corrupt
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: governments and hope that they don't fight each other. Well, now,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: what I mean, we're living in a world where post
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: CC he could die at any moment. What's it going
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: to look like? Nobody has a clue for this critical lynchpin.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I'll just come back to you know, the final thing
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: on the pivot to Asia. It is so it's not disappointing,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: it is a genuinely insane because I will tell you, like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the chief goal of Bridge Colby, who is the number
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: three at the Pentagon, was to avoid war and entanglement
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: in the Middle East and to pivot to Asia.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's the literal.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Head of policy at the Pentagon. So for this to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: happen on his watch is insane. And I mean several
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: members of the Cabinet and of the Trump administration's national
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: skirity they write in their documents about how they want
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to prioritize Asia and here at home. Now what I
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: mean this is what the war has destroyed all of it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: It's also it's not just South Korea. We really have
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to think the entire world is going to get nukes
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Like Australia. You were going to see you were going
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: to see multiple countries which previously were very dependent on
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the United States for their security. Umbrella like Poland, for example,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: has expressed an interest in a nuclear weapons program because
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: of their proximity to Russia. South Korea is going to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: get a nuclear weapon. You are almost certain to see
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Japan and Saudi Arabia, and I mean any of these
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Middle Eastern countries. They might not get a nuke themselves,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: but they will definitely sign more of these defense packs
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: with side nuclear weapons powers. This gives tremendous power too,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: North Korea to all of these other countries, and the
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: strategic logic of a nuclear Iran only makes more sense today.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Which is why all of the.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Reports that are coming out of you know, who knows
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: how much of it is true or not, of the
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Supreme Leader being like, yeah, actually I'm not as opposed
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: as my father to a nuclear weapon.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you be. Look at Kim Jong el or
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Kim Jong noun.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: He can do whatever he wants, literally whatever he wants,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: because he can hit the United States with an intercontinental
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: ballistic missile.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: So one other thing I want to mention here, because
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: there's a report out in the Wall Street Journal about
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: how while while we were during the Memo of Understanding time,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: we were like, okay, sort of living on hopium like oh,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: it's going to work out, and not really doing anything
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: to prepare if it didn't work out. The Ranians went
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: in with the assumption that it was not going to
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: work out, that this was all a ruse from the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: US in order to buy time, because we were getting
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: our butts kicked on the battlefield. And so they worked
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: vociferously during that time to reprepare themselves, dig out the
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: missile cities, make sure they're manufacturing drones, think strategically about
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: what they would do. And now there is reporting. Again,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: it's very hard to say whether this is true or
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: not that they are thinking of going on in more
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: offensive footing. Now, it does make some logic for them,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: some logical sense, because number one, they know that we've
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: got we're on the back foot, like our sailors are
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: here starving. We've got, you know, a very low morale.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Munition stockpiles are a disaster. We've had to retreat from
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the reach all the way to Jordan, where you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the Iranians are still able to hit and cause damage
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: and service members loss of life. You know, the Gulf
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Arab allies are like sick of this. They are feeling
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: very vulnerable themselves, and they are incredibly exposed because this
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: is a region that cannot sustain life without desalination plants
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: and also without lots of imports. So they know that
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: they have a lot of cars that they could play here.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, the US strategy is to sort of like
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: bleed them out slowly. So why would you let us
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: do that? Why would you just sit there and take that?
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: That doesn't seem logical. So I do buy some of
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the reporting that we're seeing, you know, in the Wall
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Street Journal in other places that says, hey, they are
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: taking a more offensive approach, and they are planning ways
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: themselves to escalate rather than just waiting to see what
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the US is going to do next.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I think that's very much possible.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Bringing back to the analogy I gave last time about
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: World War One and the Germans, you know, shifting to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the unrestricted warfare and submarine, which is ultimately what really
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: escalated the conflict brought the United States, And it's the
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: same line, why would you sit there and be bled
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: especially that time. At that time, it was a relatively
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: novel situation where you had the asymmetric ability to strike
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: back at a blockade.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: What Iran I mean to.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Be honest, their leadership often seems much more educated and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: history uh not, and more knowledgeable of history than ours.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Does it not even close?
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: You mean compared to Trump.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like when we killed lar Jani, I didn't
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: know much about him. I'm reading, but they're like, oh,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: he wrote a you know, a biography and series of
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: essays on fuku.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: You're like, what, Like, I can't think.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I cannot think of a single person in senior leadership,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about both elite parties Democrat and Republican
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: who was remotely comparable at an intellectual level of something
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: like that. So, yeah, I don't know.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: That's that's what we're doing. So they can look.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: They know to allow themselves to be squeezed by the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: blockade would be suicide in the long run. So they
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: have the ability to escalate and to try and change
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the situation in their favor. Why wouldn't you I think
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: they would, especially considering the gambles that they've taken have
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: almost all come up on the right side for them,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: at least so far in this war. Okay, let's get
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to the.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Economy, all right, Let's turn down to some of the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: economic fallout of the war. By the way, oil prices
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: going up this morning, so we will keep an eye
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: on that. But President Trump meanwhile is unrepentant about the
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: consequences at the gas pump. For all of you, let's
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: take a listen.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: For you to pay a tiny little bit more for
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: your guess, Helene, just remember you're doing it so that
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: a very evil country cannot have a country. Really, it's
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: the number one state sponsor of terror in the world.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: We don't want to have them have a nuclear weapon.
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: So remember that when you have to pay a little
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: bit more, you're at four dollars. It's okay. I mean,
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: I'm not our ever apologize.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I did the right thing.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I'll never apologize. And there I think he's telling the truth.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Soger. I don't think he ever will never apologize. Yeah.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I think actually what it demonstrates too is that this framing,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: this all in problem is exactly the same thing that's
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: been deviled every previous American president. Because you can see
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: exactly how any opposition party seeing this was like, this
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: is the greatest ad in the history.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Of the midterms.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: And if you're Iranians and you're saying, remember that when
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: you're paying four dollars. He go all right, well he's
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: not feeling the pain yet. You got to turn the
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: screws up, exactly what we were just talking about. They're like, oh,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: he seems fine with four. Let's try five, let's try six,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: let's try seven to fifty if we really have to
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: go as far as we can. This demonstrates like multiple things.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Number one is he has to be all in. And
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: remember he changes his tune every single time he talks
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: about it. So in this case, he goes, we have
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon. Over the weekend,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: he had a true social post where he said that
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: essential denuclearization has already happened with here, and he's like,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: it's eventually been denuclearized. Oh now god. This morning, this
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: morning he has a new truth social post out which
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: says Iran can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Who says the number one.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Goal and is and always will be that Iran cannot
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: have in any way, shape or form and nuclear weapon.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you for your attention to this matter. So it's
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: been essentially denuclearized, it has been it cannot have a
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. Also, you have to be grateful for paying
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: four dollars a gallon to be able to stop them
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit more the nuclear weapon to stop think
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: getting the nuclear weapon that we told you in June
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five was completely unattainable.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, put all these things.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Old enough to remember when the nuclear program was thoroughly
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: obliterated during the Twelve Day War. And yet here we
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: are being told that we must pay endless amounts of
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: increases in gas prices to denuclearize Iran, when in reality
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: the war has only made it more likely that a
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: run will pursue a nuclear weapon. Bravo all around, sir.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at how Americans are feeling about
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: having to pay more at the gas pump and about
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: his economic choices in general. This is from the Financial
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Times and they found most US voters say they are
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: worse off under Trump. This is according to their poll.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: So let me go ahead and give you these numbers.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: So the overall numbers are fifty three percent, so majority
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: of Americans say they are worse off, twenty six percent
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: say about the same. Only twenty one percent say they
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: are better off, and that is overwhelmingly Republicans, by the way,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: that are in that category. Democrats, seventy eight percent say
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: they're worse off. Even among Republicans, though almost a quarter
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: twenty three percent admit they are worse off under Trump,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: given the amount of loyalty the Republican base has had
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: to him, that is a pretty extraordinary number to actively
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: come out and say, you know what, I'm doing worse
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: now under Trump two point zero. Among independence again, you
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: have a clear majority fifty seven percent saying they are
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: worse off and only fifteen percent saying they are better off. Again,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: coming back just to the Republicans, only forty two percent
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: of them, so much less than a majority says they
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: are better off under Trump. So even many Republicans having
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: to admit to themselves that when they're looking at their
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: bills and how they're making it month to month, this
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: is not going well. If you look at the numbers
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: on is the economy going in the right direction or
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: the wrong direction, they're even worse. Sixty four percent say
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: that we are going in the wrong direction. Only twenty
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: five percent say the right direction. Democrats is almost unanimous.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Independent sixty seven percent say wrong direction. And again with Republicans,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: more than a third thirty seven percent say the economy
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: is going in the wrong direction. And as we've discussed
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: before on previous presidencies, there's a confluence of factors that
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: contribute to the economy. The president doesn't have total command
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: control over either the domestic or the global economic situation.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: However, between the.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Tariffs and the Iran war, I don't know that we
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: have in our lifetime had a president who was more
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: directly responsible for the economic conditions that Americans are living through.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: And he doesn't really even deny it. I mean in
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: that clip that we just played where he says, I'll
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: never apologize for you having to pay a little bit
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: more at the gas pump in order to denuclearize Iran,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: he is taking credit for the economic the dire economic
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: circumstances that people are facing. And how could you deny
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: that he was directly responsible for. Like, if you look
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: at the trend lines going into he was handed a
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: pretty good situation of.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Things for recovering.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: You had manufacturing output increasing, you had inflation that was
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: coming down. Now we have inflation backup to numbers that
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: are higher than when he took off this.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say it was a good situation.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: It was still high inflation came over us.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: For mine, yes it was prime too, but it was
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of jobs have been created, Inflation
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: was coming down. There was a lot that was sort
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: of going for him and very likely to have a
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: pretty solid four years. If he had done nothing, be
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: in a much better situation.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: I agree with that.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I still don't think it was. I would just say
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: it wasn't good now to your point, though it was.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: There are several voluntary things that Trump has done which
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: have made the situation worse.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: Gas is the most obvious.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: The national price of gasoline this morning four dollars and
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: six cents a gallon Brent crude, roughly around ninety dollars
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: a barrel. That's with no hot war, so we're primed
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: for some sort of major Iran attack or escalation which
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: could easily send it well above over one hundred, and
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: if the trend line continues, it'll be roughly around that
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: within the next few months.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: So that's one thing. Number two is interest rates.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I actually think that was one where in some ways
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Trump was fucked no matter what, because interest rates were
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: not coming down from the what six seven percent Now
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: they could back to where they were when he was
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: president two percent something like that. That's never happening again
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: most likely. But with what he did, which was has
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: made the situation or at worse. It was voluntarily increase
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: inflation via tariff and via gas prices. Then the third thing,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: and this is probably the one that he had most
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: in his control outside of the war, was the big
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: beautiful bill, was the extension. I mean, look, every time
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: you touch the tax code and you don't give a
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: dramatic amount of manufacturing or resupply credits or whatever to
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: actually try to boost production over the long term, you're
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: not helping yourself whenever you're actually just giving large tax breaks,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: largely to the corporate class and to the existing stock
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: buybacks and you know general financial architecture system. So if
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: you put those together, I think that you can see
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: that at every term where he had the ability to
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: voluntarily switch things up in his favor, it just didn't
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: work for him and has made things dramatically worse. That's
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: where you know, structurally, the way things were under Biden,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I mean it was bad. I think when Trump took office,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of people genuinely did hope. Maybe naively they're like, oh, well,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: we hope all they wanted to see is a reduction
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: and grocery prize. I actually think that alone, as you said,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: if he did nothing and did something along those lines
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: and got it interest rate, I don't know what was
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: it six fifty or something and six point five percent
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: and he gets it down to four, I mean, that
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: would have been considered a victory modestly at least know
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: better than Biden. But he screwed himself.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you could see that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: All over the data.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: My point is just the trend lines were had it
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: in the right direction he took office, and now the
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: trend lines are headed very much in the wrong direction
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: since he's taken office. And so and again, it's something
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: you really can't bullshit people on. They have their own
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: experience with it. Meanwhile, let's focus on what Trump is
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: actually spending a lot of his time thinking about, because
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: it's certainly not your pocketbook, your wallet, or your bank account.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: It is his ballroom. Let's put C three up on
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: the screen. He says, Now the White House needs this
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: military complex. As courts have blocked this construction. I mean,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: this is entirely predictable that he should have had to
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: have gone through Congress before demolishing a significant part of
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: the White House building this complete monstrosity. He just thinks
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: he can do whatever he wants to do. And remember,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: originally this was all going to be paid for by
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: private donors, which has its own issues. It is now
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: going to be, you know, significantly taxpayer funded. And so
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: the reason he's now framing this as a military complex
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: is so that he can invoke national security requirements, which
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: allows him to have more power in the hands of
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: the executive I mean, this is a tool that they've
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: used for a number of different purposes throughout the Trump administration.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: We're concluding the tariffs, by the way, where they would
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: claim some national security justification and use that in order
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: for Trump to get his way. So they're trying the
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: same trick here now with his beloved ballroom quote.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Here I missed this. Army Secretary Dan Driscoll writes, if
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: there was ever a drone attack on the White House,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the ballroom would be a sacrificial outer cover to protect
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: the people in military complex underneath. You know, you got
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: to be honest, those conspiracy people in the beginning who
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: said that the ballroom was a data center project or something, Yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: they might be right. The entire time.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: There were certainly closer to reality than maybe many of
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: us thought it.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guys out here saying that this is
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: some vital military complex. Although this is where I just
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: think it's nonsense and he just wants either taxpayers to
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: fund it. But this is his obsession. Maggie Haberman gave
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: an interview and they asked her. He said, what percent
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: of Trump's mind share does the ballroom and his Lincoln
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Memorial or Lincoln Reflecting Pool projects occupied. She was like,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: probably like sixty percent. And I was like, yeah, tracks
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: tracks from what I've been able to, I mean, that's
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: where his heart is. That's his passion, is the reflecting pool.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, look how obsessed he is with this whole
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Janine Piro thing, saying that she needs to go back
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: to law school. We'll talk about Dodd blanche here in
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit. He's in a tough spot on that one.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: But he's got the lit reflecting pool and the ballroom.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: But this is his genuine obsession, is recreating thought. No
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: president since Truman has touched the White House in the
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: way that Trump has. Trump. Truman at least went through
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Congress and had like his historical you know, commission and
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: other things that redesigned it in a decent way. This
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: is purely to his own aesthetic taste, which is part
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: of the reason that so many Americans are so repulsed
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: by it.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the truth is if he had bothered to
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: go through currents, probably talking what he wanted or less.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't want to have to deal with the
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: messiness of democracy and having to ask anybody for anything,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: so he just does it all on his own. But
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: this is part of him wanting to leave his stamp.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: This is part of his obsession with his legacy and
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: you know, making his.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Reign here in d C a permanent.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Fixture that we all have to think about and deal
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: with just visually from the way that he changes the
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: skyline here in the city. He also his other obsession
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: is posting weird AI slop and so we have an
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: example here to put this up on the screen where
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: his ballroom obsession and his weird AI boomer slop obsession
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: come together. He posts, thank you George, George Washington. He's
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: got an AI slot video of him and George Washington
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: together touring the new ballroom. Thank you George for some
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: of your brilliant ideas on this great military complex slash
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: ballroom President DJT. So the full boomification of the White
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: House has happened, complete with the Aislop obsession, and it is.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Grotesque to watch.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because he could probably have not picked another
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: president that was worse. For the example, I cannot even
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: imagine what George Washington would think about building a palatial
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: ballroom for visiting heads of state on the White House grounds.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: He himself who refused the title of like his imperial
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: or his majesty, which was proposed while he was the president,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: and insisted on being like the ultimate kind of like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: non noteworthy citizen, like the extraordinary average Joe I guess
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: if you will, And his total unremarkability is like the thing,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: though probably is the most important thing about Washington, kind
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: of an everyman citizen soldier who voluntarily leaves the presidency
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: and wanted specifically to not be imbued with both the powers,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the titles, and the imagery of the European monarchs and societies,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: which he despised more than anything. So yeah, I'm sure
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: he palatial gold Versailles style ballroom would probably send him
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: into genuine his students.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I bet he also would have thought about the logistic
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: supply chain of the sailors who are stranded in the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Middle Easies.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Yes and no.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: You know, Washington's track record as a general is not
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: as good as we try to remember. But it's fine.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Everybody needs their own mythos