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Missing 4-Year-Old Oakley Carlson Declared Dead Four Years Later | Crime Alert 6AM 10.22.25 · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Alert I Nancy Grace breaking crime news. Now Oakley
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  Speaker 1: Carlson has just been declared dead. Little Oakley's body has
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  Speaker 1: never been found lasting alive by someone other than her parents.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, her Washington State disappearance finally reported
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  Speaker 1: by a school principal who overhears Oakley's sister say her
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  Speaker 1: mom told her Oakley had quote gone out into the
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  Speaker 1: woods and had been eaten by wolves. Our Drew Nelson
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  Speaker 1: joins us with the latest hert nancy.
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  Speaker 2: Even as detectives continue to treat her case as an
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  Speaker 2: open homicide investigation, a judge declared Oakley Carlson legally dead.
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  Speaker 2: Her mother, Jordan Bowers, who was released from prison just
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  Speaker 2: weeks before the ruling, remains a suspect. Records show the
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  Speaker 2: death declaration came in Pacific County Superior Court nearly four
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  Speaker 2: years after Oakley was last seen at age four. The
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  Speaker 2: petition filed on behalf of her siblings. The ruling follows
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  Speaker 2: years of unanswered questions since Oakley disappeared from her parents'
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  Speaker 2: home in Oakville. The child had once lived safely with
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  Speaker 2: foster parents, but in twenty nineteen, the Washington Department of
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  Speaker 2: Children youth and families returned her to her biological parents,
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  Speaker 2: Bowers Andrew Carlson. Detectives said the couple gave conflicting and
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  Speaker 2: false statements when asked about their daughter's whereabouts. Both were
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  Speaker 2: later convicted of child and nagement for exposing their other
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  Speaker 2: children to meth. More recently, Bowers was sentenced in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three to forty three months in prison for identity
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  Speaker 2: theft and released last month. She remains on community supervision
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  Speaker 2: for one year. Detectives from the Grays Harbor County Sheriff's
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  Speaker 2: Office confirmed both parents are still considered suspects in a
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  Speaker 2: so called no body homicide case. Jamie Joe Hiles, who
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  Speaker 2: was Oakley's foster mother, says the declaration of death came
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  Speaker 2: as a shock. She spoke to Komo.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that they just keep seeing Oakley's face and
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  Speaker 1: maybe they just are like, okay, I need to come
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  Speaker 1: forward with what I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yles says she still speaks often with investigators and finds
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  Speaker 2: Bowers really unnerving. According to records, Oakley's six year old
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  Speaker 2: sister told investigators that their mother had told her not
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  Speaker 2: to talk about Oakley and that she had quote gone
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  Speaker 2: out into the woods and had been eaten by wolves.
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  Speaker 2: Detectives described that as one of several disturbing comments that
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  Speaker 2: made them fear Oakley had been killed. No physical evidence
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  Speaker 2: ever supported that claim, but it helped establish what investigators
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  Speaker 2: called suspicious circumstances around the disappearance and led to Bowers
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  Speaker 2: and Andrew Carlson being treated as persons of interest. Hiles
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  Speaker 2: continues to advocate for Oakley. I think that just keeping
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  Speaker 2: her relevant just kind of refreshes everybody's memory that yes,
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  Speaker 2: she is still out there, and it's important to keep
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  Speaker 2: her name alive. Oakley would have turned eight years old
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  Speaker 2: this year. The reward for information in her case has
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  Speaker 2: grown to one hundred thousand dollars. Anyone with information has
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  Speaker 2: urged to contact the Gray's Harbor County Sheriff's Office at
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  Speaker 2: three six zero nine six four, seventeen twenty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Drew. More crime and justice news after this.
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Giuffray's memoir Nobody's Girl is released six months after
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  Speaker 2: her death, describing how she was trafficked and raped by
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  Speaker 2: powerful men while trapped in Jeffrey Epstein's sex ring. She
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  Speaker 2: wrote that she feared she might quote die a sex
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  Speaker 2: slave Geffray says she was trafficked to quote scores of wealthy,
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  Speaker 2: powerful people. In one section, she described being taken to
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  Speaker 2: a quote well known prime minister, who she said, quote
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  Speaker 2: raped me more savagely than anyone had before. She wrote
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  Speaker 2: that he choked her until she lost consciousness and laughed
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  Speaker 2: at her, becoming fearful of him. Afterwards, she said she
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  Speaker 2: begged Epsteine not to send her back. Quote. I got
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  Speaker 2: down on my knees and pleaded with him. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if Epstein feared the man, or if he owed
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  Speaker 2: him a favor, but he wouldn't make any promises, saying
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  Speaker 2: coldly of the politician's brutality, you'll get that sometimes. The
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  Speaker 2: book also describes abuse that began when she was seven
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  Speaker 2: years old. Giffrey alleged that her father molested her as
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  Speaker 2: a child and traded her to a family only friend.
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  Speaker 2: Her father denied the claim. Her brother told NBC News
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  Speaker 2: that he confronted him, saying, quote, you sexually abuse your daughter.
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  Speaker 2: It's absolutely heinous what he did. Geffrey says she was
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  Speaker 2: groomed by Glaine Maxwell and trafficked by Epstein starting at
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  Speaker 2: age sixteen, forced to have sex with men, in politics
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  Speaker 2: and business. She mentioned a quote gubernatorial candidate who was
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  Speaker 2: soon to win an election in a Western state, and
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  Speaker 2: also quote a former US senator. She also described to
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  Speaker 2: being trafficked to Prince Andrew before they had sex for
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  Speaker 2: the first time. She said he guessed her age correctly
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  Speaker 2: seventeen quote. He was friendly enough, but still entitled, as
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  Speaker 2: if he believed having sex with me was his birthright.
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  Speaker 2: His lawyers later paid her to settle her civil case.
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  Speaker 2: In another part of the book, she wrote that Epstein
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  Speaker 2: and Maxwell bragged about their friendship with former President Bill
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  Speaker 2: Clinton and how easily Maxwell could reach him. Geffrey also
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  Speaker 2: said Epstein quote love to boast about his friendship with
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump and kept a framed photo of them together
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  Speaker 2: on his She wrote that quote the powerful men who
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  Speaker 2: used me were never punished, but she wanted her story
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  Speaker 2: told so others would know what she endured. Prince Andrew
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  Speaker 2: is under mounting pressure to leave public life forever as
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  Speaker 2: the new allegations deepen the embarrassment for the royal family.
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  Speaker 2: The book mentions Andrew eighty eight times. It also alleges
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  Speaker 2: his team tried to hire internet trolls to harasser. Andrew
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  Speaker 2: denies all wrongdoing. The pressure is also mounting over Prince
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  Speaker 2: Andrew's home at Royal Lodge and Windsor. A lease signed
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  Speaker 2: in twenty oh three says he paid a million pounds
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  Speaker 2: for a seventy five year lease and spent seven point
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  Speaker 2: five million dollars on renovations. In return, he has paid
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  Speaker 2: quote one peppercorn if demanded in rent each year. The
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  Speaker 2: Crown Estate would owe him about five hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: eight thousand pounds if he gave up the property before
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  Speaker 2: his lease expires in twenty seventy eight. MPs from multiple
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  Speaker 2: parties have called for an inquiry into how the arrangement
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  Speaker 2: was handled, since Crown Estate profits go to the Treasury.
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  Speaker 2: Royal biographer Tina Brown says Prince William and Princess Kate
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  Speaker 2: quote can't abide Andrew and want him and Sarah Ferguson
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  Speaker 2: to quote disappear from Windsor. Brown wrote that their presence
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  Speaker 2: near the new home of the Prince and Princess quote
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  Speaker 2: spoils life at their forever home. The King is said
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  Speaker 2: to have quote acted decisively, removing Andrew's remaining titles from
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  Speaker 2: the palace website and urging him to live quietly Scotland
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  Speaker 2: Yard has confirmed it as investigating claims that Andrew asked
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  Speaker 2: a police officer to quote dig up dirt on Virginia Gufrey.
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  Speaker 2: Her co author Amy Wallace says Guffrey quote would have
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  Speaker 2: viewed it as a victory that he was forced by
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  Speaker 2: whatever means, to voluntarily give them up. She called it
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  Speaker 2: quote a step in the right direction and said Prince
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  Speaker 2: Andrew should finally share what he knows about Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Drew for the latest crime and justice dease. Go
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  Speaker 1: find missing people, especially children, and help solve solved homicides.
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  Speaker 1: With this crime of art, I Nancy Grace