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Steve Price | 13 February · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live.
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Speaker 2: This is Steve Price.
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Speaker 1: Good evening, working to the program. Steve Price with you,
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Speaker 1: and it's been one of those days in politics. Angus
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Speaker 1: Taylor removes Susan Lee, but is he the answer time
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Speaker 1: will tell. Interestingly, many of my colleagues on Sky I
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Speaker 1: still believe the Liberals will have another leader by the
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Speaker 1: time we get around to the next election, with Andrew
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Speaker 1: Hasty's name, of course, still being tossed around. Here's what's
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Speaker 1: coming up on Friday nights. Tonight, National Senator Matt Canavan
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Speaker 1: will join us on the Liberal deck chair shuffling what
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Speaker 1: the resignation of Susan Lee will mean for the Nats
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Speaker 1: in the by election now needed in her seat of Parah,
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Speaker 1: and what he thinks of the new Liberal leader and
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Speaker 1: where that leader will take them. Friday regular former Queensland
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Speaker 1: Premier Campbell Newman on what the federal Liberals actually need
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Speaker 1: to do now, and I'll get his view on a
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Speaker 1: labour attack ad that has taken a personal swipe at
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Speaker 1: Angus Taylor before the ink was even dry, on his
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Speaker 1: new job contract and Jim's Mowing founder Jim Penman will
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Speaker 1: join us, a vocal critic of the Dan Andrews COVID
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Speaker 1: lockdowns as we all were. He's decided it's time to
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Speaker 1: join the political franchise as a candidate for the Victorian
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Speaker 1: election in November. I can't wait to hear what Jim
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Speaker 1: thinks of the CFMAU scandal that broke yesterday. Plus we'll
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Speaker 1: talk to Shadow Minister for Industry Relations Brad Roswell on
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Speaker 1: where next following those revelations and with the panel tonight,
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Speaker 1: just how bad is the Australian economy going? When icons
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Speaker 1: store barbecues Galago's belly up and it's reported today that
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Speaker 1: people are being asked to pay wait for it, seven
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Speaker 1: dollars fifty for a coffee. But first, if Angus Taylor
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Speaker 1: thought removing Susan Lee to take the top job with
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Speaker 1: the Federal Liberals was mission accomplished, he was in for
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Speaker 1: a rude shock moments after winning the vote, which was
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Speaker 1: thirty four to seventeen. This morning, Labor and its slick
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Speaker 1: social media outfit drop this little gem.
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Speaker 3: So who is new Liberal leader Angus Taylor? He's just
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Speaker 3: another Liberal. He's a leftover from the Morrison government, a
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Speaker 3: shadow treasurer with Peter Dutton. Taylor was the architect of
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Speaker 3: Liberal policies for higher taxes, biggot deficits, more debt, getting
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Speaker 3: rid of work from home, sacking of tens of thousands
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Speaker 3: of frontline workers, and a six hundred billion dollar taxpayer
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Speaker 3: funded nuclear scheme. And Taylor worked from day one to
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Speaker 3: undermine the Liberals first female leader, Angus Taylor, just another
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Speaker 3: Liberal would.
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Speaker 1: Might have been of fact checking there, But that's a
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Speaker 1: window into how tough the alban Easy government intends to
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Speaker 1: play this political game between now and the next election,
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Speaker 1: starting with a by election of course, in Susan Lee's
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Speaker 1: Seed of Farrer, which could potentially be a five cornered contest.
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Speaker 1: Now One Nation have already revealed it will stand a candidate.
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Speaker 1: The seat is held by around six percent. The Liberals
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Speaker 1: will try and hold it, so will the Nationals. They'll
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Speaker 1: have a candidate presumably, and word is Independent's going to
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Speaker 1: stand as well. Now, what Taylor doesn't want is an
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Speaker 1: early loss in his new job, and boy does he
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Speaker 1: have some hurdles coming up. I suspect the South Australian
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Speaker 1: election result for the Liberals won't be much good either.
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Speaker 1: Susan Lee ends a twenty five year political career today
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Speaker 1: and I've said before that, I think the way she
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Speaker 1: handled herself post BONDI was very well done. I think
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Speaker 1: she covered herself in glory after that. She understandably got
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Speaker 1: emotional today, as you would expect after that time in parliament.
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Speaker 1: Here she is.
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Speaker 4: When I came to the leadership of the Liberal Party
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Speaker 4: nine months ago, my mother had just died. One of
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Speaker 4: the things she said was, when something ends in sadness,
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Speaker 4: don't dwell on the disappointment. Be grateful that you had
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Speaker 4: it at all. I'm not sure what comes next for me.
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Speaker 4: I look forward to stepping away completely and comprehensively from
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Speaker 4: public life.
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Speaker 1: Classy now, given her lengthy political career, suis and qualifies
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Speaker 1: under the old politicians superannuation scheme that has been watered
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Speaker 1: down these days. Looks like she is going to qualify though,
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Speaker 1: because she's in the old pension for a pension of
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Speaker 1: around two hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year for life,
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Speaker 1: unless she chooses, of course, to take a lump sum,
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Speaker 1: and that money is tax free. So not too many
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Speaker 1: tears when you learn that. Predictably, ex Liberal Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: Malcolm Turnbull chose his mediate outfit of choice the ABC
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Speaker 1: and showed his character these days, using an abusive term
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Speaker 1: to describe Angus Taylor.
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Speaker 5: The curious thing about a lot of people say about
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Speaker 5: Angus Taylor is he is the best qualified idiot they've
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Speaker 5: ever met. I mean, this is a tough thing to say,
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Speaker 5: but what they're saying is, this guy's got all these degrees,
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Speaker 5: He's got all of these qualifications. Is Rhodes Scholet Mind you,
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Speaker 5: there are dim a dozen look at me and Tony Abbott,
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Speaker 5: But the bottom line is that he has not delivered
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Speaker 5: the sort of the positive policy agendas, the real achievements
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Speaker 5: in government that you'd expect from somebody with those qualifications.
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Speaker 1: I mean this, of course, from the bloke that lost
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Speaker 1: all of the seats that Tony Abbott won. This is
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Speaker 1: the bloker wouldn't come out of his harbor mansion days
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Speaker 1: for hours and hours on the night that he managed
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Speaker 1: to win the election by one seat. I mean, Malcolm
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Speaker 1: Turmle is a disgrace. And to call Angus Taylor an idiot,
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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Malcolm, I mean even you surely
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Speaker 1: have got more class than that. And hours after the
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Speaker 1: new leader took over, he gave us all a glimpse
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Speaker 1: I think of what the new Liberals might look like
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Speaker 1: for a start, six Australian flags behind him. That gets
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Speaker 1: a tick. I would say that Taylor's seven minute address
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Speaker 1: was delivered nervously, which is understandable. But I would make
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Speaker 1: one small point, and I'm trying not to be pedantic.
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Speaker 1: Here Angus Taylor read from a written speech. He kept
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Speaker 1: looking down to make his points. Now, I would have
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Speaker 1: thought if you were up there and you've just taken
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Speaker 1: over as the leader of the Liberal Party, and you
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Speaker 1: were speaking from a place of passion, from your heart,
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Speaker 1: speaking from the heart, speaking you know you're honesty, then
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Speaker 1: in my view, you don't need notes. I mean here
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Speaker 1: he was on one of the points I think he
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Speaker 1: needs to keep hammering.
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Speaker 6: Well, united and focused and put the Australian people first.
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Speaker 6: We can confront the challenges of the times. And there
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Speaker 6: are many, so many Australians can't afford to buy a home,
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Speaker 6: Australians who are working two jobs, juggling whether they can
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Speaker 6: feed their families or pay their electricity bills.
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Speaker 1: For god, say stop looking down. I mean, if you
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Speaker 1: feel strongly about this stuff and it's part of your
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Speaker 1: central theme of what your new government's going to be about,
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Speaker 1: just look at the people and say it.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 1: Now his job is policy. Can I be so bold?
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Speaker 1: Orders to give him a couple of tips in starting
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Speaker 1: the long road back for the Liberal Party. Taylor and
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Speaker 1: his colleagues need to tell voters who have left for
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Speaker 1: one nation and other places answers to these questions and
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Speaker 1: what they're going to do about it. Tell parents and
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Speaker 1: grandparents of Australian children what they will do the Liberal
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Speaker 1: Party to get those youngsters into a house, a unit
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Speaker 1: of flat, to get a roof over their head. What
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Speaker 1: will Taylor and his colleagues do to make sure Australia
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Speaker 1: uses all of its resources cole gas, uranium, win sun
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Speaker 1: to make energy here cheap again and save Australian businesses.
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Speaker 1: What will he do to change the immigration policies that
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Speaker 1: are swamping the country and crippling our big cities. What
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Speaker 1: migrants will he target? How many? What's the number? When
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Speaker 1: will he tell us that? And where will these people
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Speaker 1: go to live? How he will give Australian taxpayers, and
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Speaker 1: this is very important and small businesses relief from crippling
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Speaker 1: tax hikes and red tape energy tax migration. Will he
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Speaker 1: be bold enough, tough enough, smart enough, time will tell
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Speaker 1: for me though the jury is still out. Okay, on
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Speaker 1: such a big day in politics to bring in Queensland
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Speaker 1: National Senator Matt Canavan Senator, always great to see you,
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Does the new leadership team make
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Speaker 1: it easier or the same for your colleagues to work
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Speaker 1: in coalition with them?
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Speaker 2: Look, we've got.
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Speaker 7: RBH go down to the tunnel control centers.
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Speaker 8: It's going to continue on the same.
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Speaker 2: Way it has always been.
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Speaker 8: I've always worked well with Susan, but I've worked well
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Speaker 8: with Angus as well. There's no doubt It's been a
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Speaker 8: tough time for the coalition after the worst election we've
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Speaker 8: had since World War Two, and it was always going
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Speaker 8: to be tough to rebuild.
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Speaker 2: But look, I'm not too worried.
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Speaker 8: About who I'm working with or who's in particular positions.
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Speaker 8: What we need now the policies that are going to
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Speaker 8: make people's lives better. That's why I'm in politics, That's
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Speaker 8: what we should be focused on. I thought Angus and
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Speaker 8: Jane did very well today outlining their priorities about what
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Speaker 8: they want to do, and obviously there's time now for
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Speaker 8: them to develop the detailed plans and put those to
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Speaker 8: the austrained people ahead of the next election.
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Speaker 1: Well, you'd hope some of those detailed plans matter already there,
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Speaker 1: that they've been working on them from some time back.
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Speaker 1: I mean I mentioned and I know you agree on this.
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Speaker 1: I think housing, energy, tax, red tape, all of those
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Speaker 1: things are what Australian people want to hear about, aren't
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Speaker 1: are they not?
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Speaker 8: Well sure, but those plans have to be properly adopted
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Speaker 8: through the normal process as we go through. I'm sure Angus.
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Speaker 8: I've worked with Angus and cabinet. He's a collegiate guy.
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Speaker 8: He's extremely intelligent across his brief he's been very successful
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Speaker 8: in business and I think right now, given the economic
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Speaker 8: conditions we face, Australia could do with somebody who has
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Speaker 8: that success, that track record in business. And like in
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Speaker 8: any team, we've got to take the whole team with us.
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Speaker 8: So those plans and policies, of course will go through
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Speaker 8: a shadow cabinet, they'll be discussed with colleagues and then
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Speaker 8: we'll put them out to the Australian people. As I say,
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Speaker 8: there's plenty of time for that, there's no need for
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Speaker 8: do that on day one.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Angus Taylor and his team understand
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Speaker 1: the arguments around energy and that it is a bit
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Speaker 1: of a conflict where you say you don't agree with
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Speaker 1: NED zero, but you're still a signatory to the Paris Agreement.
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Speaker 1: I mean, is that a starting point.
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Speaker 8: I'll go back, I'll go there's two elements there. There's
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Speaker 8: probably no one in the Parliament that knows more about
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Speaker 8: energy than Angus. He was Energy Minister. He's got a
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Speaker 8: very clear at eye view about what we need to
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Speaker 8: do as a nation. I've discussed these matters with him
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Speaker 8: many times, so I've got great confidence in him as
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Speaker 8: leader in taking up the fights, as he said today,
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Speaker 8: the fight to a Labor Party that's presiding over a
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Speaker 8: shockingly failing energy policy for our country. In terms of
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Speaker 8: the detail of the coalition getting out of NED zero
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Speaker 8: will as Angus said today, we're against all kinds of taxes,
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Speaker 8: new bad taxes from the Labor Party, including those on
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Speaker 8: our manufacturing sector. These carbon taxes that are smashing our
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Speaker 8: mining and manufacturing industries. They'll go under a coalition government.
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Speaker 8: And that doesn't mean, though that we can't still cooperate
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Speaker 8: with other countries around.
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Speaker 2: The world and do the right thing. Be a good nation.
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Speaker 8: The Paris Agreement does not require us to impose the
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Speaker 8: kind of taxes that the Labor Party is imposing the
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Speaker 8: austrain economy, and that will be the key difference between
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Speaker 8: Labor and the Liberal and National Parties at the next life.
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Speaker 8: If you do want higher taxes, higher charges, well the
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Speaker 8: Labor Party have got plenty of those.
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Speaker 2: They've got a whole menu of those. More coming, I'd.
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Speaker 8: Say soon with the cash grab tax, the so called
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Speaker 8: changes to the capital gains tax. But the Liberal and
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Speaker 8: National Party will always stand for those lower taxes and
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Speaker 8: that's what we'll be offering to this train people.
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Speaker 1: When you see the people that are drifting away from
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Speaker 1: the Liberal Party and you know the one nation vote increasing,
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Speaker 1: you hear so many Australians say, look, we're rich in resources.
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Speaker 1: We've got as much coal and gas that we need
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Speaker 1: to run the country forever. We should be using uranium,
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Speaker 1: we should be looking at nuclear And that comes into
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Speaker 1: the AI argument. Do you think that the Party under
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Speaker 1: Angus will go down that road hard enough?
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Speaker 2: Well, look I'm not.
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Speaker 8: I can't pretend to speak for Angus and I'll let
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Speaker 8: him map out his own plans. But last year, when
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Speaker 8: the Colors did dropt zero made it very clear that
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Speaker 8: we wouldn't be putting unnecessary restrictions on any type of
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Speaker 8: energy production. The simple, simplest and quickest way to bring
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Speaker 8: down your electricity bill is to make sure that we
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Speaker 8: increase the supply of all forms of electricity, because when
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Speaker 8: you increase supply, you lower prices. It's a simple economic law.
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Speaker 8: And as you say, we have enormous resources as a
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Speaker 8: country of almost every type of electricity generation. For some
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Speaker 8: ridiculous reason, we completely ban the use of uranium, despite
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Speaker 8: having the world's largest uranium reserves. And of course we
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Speaker 8: have a de facto ban on coal and gas now
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Speaker 8: under this labor government. So when you restrict the supply
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Speaker 8: of those so important energy sources, you are almost necessarily
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Speaker 8: going to get higher electricity prices. And that's exactly what
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Speaker 8: we've seen under this labor government. Keep in mind, people
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Speaker 8: now predict that we could be facing another twenty four
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Speaker 8: percent increase in electricity prices, household electricity prices this year.
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Speaker 8: This has got to stop, and so the Colorist has said,
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Speaker 8: we would do that. We'd make sure that we'd use
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Speaker 8: all types of energy, we'd have the best fit of
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Speaker 8: an energy source for.
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Speaker 2: Whatever its particular use is.
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Speaker 8: So there is a role for solar and wind in
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Speaker 8: some locations on your roof, good luck. But we also
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Speaker 8: need large spinning things that can stay on all the
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Speaker 8: time to keep a manufacturing sector in this country so
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Speaker 8: we can have good jobs and defend ourselves.
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Speaker 2: And as you also mentioned.
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Speaker 8: So we take these opportunities with AI and data centers
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Speaker 8: without having some reliable form of power generation, we're just
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Speaker 8: not going to have those. We'll miss out in that
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Speaker 8: investment and data security will go elsewhere.
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Speaker 1: Yep, Well, it looks like it's a new start. It
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Speaker 1: was good to catch up with you, Matt. Thank you
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Speaker 1: Senator Mat Canavan there from Queensland. Now coming up after
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Speaker 1: the break, we will take you inside the story of
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Speaker 1: what happened in Victoria this week with the CFMU and
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Speaker 1: how does a premier actually survive the sort corruption in
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Speaker 1: the big bill projects that we learned of yesterday involving criminals,
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Speaker 1: motorcycle gang members, strippers and payoffs costing fifteen billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: That's next, welcome back. Incredible yesterday. What we learned about
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Speaker 1: the CFMU and the cover up, we'll get to that
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Speaker 1: in a moment, but I first want to get an
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Speaker 1: opinion on Angus Taylor's top job liberal leadership today from
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Speaker 1: our Friday night regular guest, former Queensland Liberal Premier Campbell Yuman.
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Speaker 1: Was great to see you on a Friday night. What
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Speaker 1: did you make of the change at the top today?
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Speaker 9: Well, I had to be.
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Speaker 7: Done, and regular viewers your show would know that I'd
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Speaker 7: sort of made that very clear in the past that
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Speaker 7: there needed to be regime change.
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Speaker 9: There can be a reset.
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Speaker 7: I'm not sure about Senator Jane Hume is the Deputy
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Speaker 7: I think she has not in the past been true
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Speaker 7: to a Liberal Party value of small business and private enterprise.
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Speaker 7: She decimated on her watch small businesses which provide financial
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Speaker 7: advice to middle Australia, So just throw that one in.
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Speaker 7: I thought the press conference had some of the right
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Speaker 7: messages in there today. I've had feedback from some people
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Speaker 7: whose opinions I value, who felt it wasn't strong enough,
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Speaker 7: and you know, i'ld reserve judgment on that, but I'm
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Speaker 7: glad that a number of important points were made which
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Speaker 7: needed to be made by Angus Taylor. So I think
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Speaker 7: it's a reasonably good start.
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Speaker 1: What about to my point, and without being pedantic. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you are speaking from the heart, passionately about how
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Speaker 1: you want to make Australia a better place and go
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Speaker 1: back to what it was like prior to the two
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Speaker 1: terms of the alban Easy government, you really want to
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Speaker 1: be looking down and reading from notes. Doesn't it come
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Speaker 1: from here?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: Look, that's one of the criticisms that I've I've sort
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Speaker 7: of received from a few people that it should have
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Speaker 7: been you know, from right here, that you know, this
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Speaker 7: is what I'm really about, but you look just to
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Speaker 7: sort of give viewers a bit of an insider sort
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Speaker 7: of view, like it's really hard to do this stuff.
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Speaker 9: Despite the appearance I've gone.
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Speaker 7: Harm from people, it's it's mate, it's nerve wracking staff
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Speaker 7: Like I'm quite happy to share every time I went
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Speaker 7: in front in front of the media, except particularly the
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Speaker 7: queens and media who just fair all in my day
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Speaker 7: it's terrifying.
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Speaker 9: So you know, look, it would have been good for
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Speaker 9: him to just do it.
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Speaker 7: From you know, from from from the heart and not
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Speaker 7: have to look at notes.
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Speaker 9: But come, let's give the guy a go.
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Speaker 7: It's day one and it's more about what he serves
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Speaker 7: up in the coming weeks and months that we really
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Speaker 7: should focus on and what he had to say, the
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Speaker 7: content is what we should fain us on right now,
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Speaker 7: because it's the policy issues that I depend on whether
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Speaker 7: the Liberal Party get back in front of one nation
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Speaker 7: or not. Because you know, you can change the leader.
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Speaker 7: That hasn't been the problem. It's the rubbish policies and
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Speaker 7: positions that their Liberal Party has adopted over the last
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Speaker 7: five or six years, and I think that's really lost
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Speaker 7: them all support.
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Speaker 1: I thought Pauline Hanson had one of the quotes of
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Speaker 1: the day. Have a look at how she described the
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Speaker 1: change of leader.
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Speaker 10: For nine months, the biggest issue was about migration and
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Speaker 10: the mass migration, and neither party have addressed it, and
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Speaker 10: even the Labor Party continue to bring more people in
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Speaker 10: the country regardless of how the Australian public felt about it.
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Speaker 10: And you've got nearly seventy plus of people want a
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Speaker 10: lower immigration and nothing's been done about it. So, like
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Speaker 10: you said, different jockey, same.
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Speaker 1: Dead horse, Different jockey, same dead horse. I mean that's
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Speaker 1: pretty brutal. It is bruial line.
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Speaker 7: She's well out in front of this issue. She's well
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Speaker 7: out in front of this issue, and you know it's look,
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Speaker 7: it's it's a it's a trek to the highest peaks
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Speaker 7: of the Himalayas. For for Angus Taylor and Senator Jane Hume,
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Speaker 7: there's there's so much ground to be recovered. And look
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Speaker 7: on this issue, Pauline Hanson and One Nation own it.
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Speaker 9: They actually own it.
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Speaker 7: So you know, the Little Party in contrast have no
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Speaker 7: credibility these days with the people that have defected. So
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Speaker 7: again it's going to be a long, hard slog. We'll
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Speaker 7: see how he.
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Speaker 1: Goes hows as a former state premier. I mean, how
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Speaker 1: does Jacinda Allen, the Premier of Victoria survive what we
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Speaker 1: learned yesterday incredibly out of a Royal Commission held in
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Speaker 1: Queensland with an investigation by an sc from New South
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Speaker 1: Wales that the Victorian government should have should have known.
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Speaker 1: He did know that the CFMU were linked to corruption,
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Speaker 1: organized crime. You had bikeis, you had drug dealing on
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Speaker 1: the big build projects. He even had strippers at night
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Speaker 1: doing their act in the in the in the in
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Speaker 1: the mess hall on the on the project. I mean,
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Speaker 1: how I remember when Barrio Farrell lost his job for
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Speaker 1: taking a free bottle of wine Baris Gladys burrigically and
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Speaker 1: lost her job for having a relationship. Jacinda Alla just
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Speaker 1: sits there and goes, well, you know, everything I knew
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Speaker 1: I gave to the authorities and nothing to see here.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, it's implausible and I think for viewers, you know,
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Speaker 7: what everyone needs to understand is that this is a
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Speaker 7: theft of taxpayer money.
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Speaker 9: Is it's grand lascening. Is it is.
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Speaker 7: A cozy deal that allowed these outrageous roughts to occur.
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Speaker 9: You know, criminality that's been alleged.
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Speaker 7: And you know, the people of the state of Victoria
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Speaker 7: and arguably the whole of Australia through federal tax revenues
21:01
Speaker 7: and contributions to projects, they've paid as well.
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Speaker 9: So it does need to be investigated. The media in
21:08
Speaker 9: Victoria did.
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Speaker 7: Not do a good job during the Daniel Andrews period
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Speaker 7: in holding to your account. And now I just say
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Speaker 7: to anybody in the media in Victoria every day now
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Speaker 7: when you go to a press conference, you should be
21:19
Speaker 7: continued to prosecute this issue. Meantime, my other little message
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Speaker 7: is that Iback should be right up this, you know,
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Speaker 7: show us that you're not just some paper tiger. And
21:31
Speaker 7: for that matter, the Federal Anti Corruption Commission may have
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Speaker 7: a cause to actually invest out.
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Speaker 9: I alluded to federal failure.
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Speaker 7: In federal money exactly if somewhere in the Federal Criminal
21:46
Speaker 7: Code of Australia or some other piece of legislation, there
21:50
Speaker 7: is there is an angle there. That's what they should
21:53
Speaker 7: be going after. This is criminality on a massive scale.
21:56
Speaker 7: This is massive misuse of taxpayer funds ultimately and wastage
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Speaker 7: of funds, and it cannot be swept underneath the carpet.
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Speaker 7: The media can't let her get away with it, but
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Speaker 7: neither can those anti corruption bodies.
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Speaker 9: They have to go after this.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope they do, and let's hope somebody is
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Speaker 1: held to account because at the moment it's just like
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Speaker 1: an organized crime racket.
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Speaker 7: Well, by the way before you wind out, but by
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Speaker 7: the way before you wind up. In twenty fifteen, in
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Speaker 7: the election campaign, I was ridiculed by the media here
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Speaker 7: in Queensland for drawing a link between bikies, the CFMEU
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Speaker 7: criminal behavior and the Australian Labor Party taking donations. So
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Speaker 7: those members of the media who thought that I had nothing, well,
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Speaker 7: eat your words. Now reflect on you allowed eleven years
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Speaker 7: of this sort of behavior to go on, and it's
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Speaker 7: cost Australian taxpayers and it has not made our country
22:56
Speaker 7: a better, say or fairer place.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well said very pre interview back then, good on you.
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Speaker 1: I'll see you next Friday night, Campbell Newman there, well
23:03
Speaker 1: you know this next bloke is the face of the
23:05
Speaker 1: hugely successful franchise Jim's Mowing. But this week entrepreneur Jim
23:10
Speaker 1: Penman has announced that he's going to run for the
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Speaker 1: Libertarian Party in the ultra marginal Victorian seat of Northgood
23:17
Speaker 1: in the November state election. He plans to challenge Labour's
23:21
Speaker 1: cat Theophanus on a platform attacking state taxes, regulation and
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Speaker 1: the cost of living under this Labor government. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: he'll also have something to say about what I was
23:31
Speaker 1: just talking to Campbell about. Jim Penman joins me, good
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Speaker 1: to see you again. Jim. I've got to say, if
23:37
Speaker 1: I go to Northgood, I probably get things thrown at me.
23:41
Speaker 1: Why choose Northgot.
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Speaker 11: It's a deep Green seat.
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Speaker 12: It's going in to the heart of the enemy and
23:50
Speaker 12: I've got to attack.
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Speaker 2: Them, that's all.
23:52
Speaker 12: I just think that the Labor Party had messed up
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Speaker 12: badly in government, the Greens would be vastly worse.
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Speaker 11: I have to say.
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Speaker 12: The problem really is that the Liberal Party is better
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Speaker 12: on business, but the one subject I'm really passionate about
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Speaker 12: is zoning, and the Liberal Party is no better than Labor.
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Speaker 11: On that one.
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Speaker 12: They are no intention, it seems to me, of loosening
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Speaker 12: our ridiculous zoning laws which are forcing out the prices
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Speaker 12: of housing and rents.
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Speaker 11: And that's the biggest thing I'm against.
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Speaker 1: So you're talking about zoning for real estate development, for housing.
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Speaker 12: Residential zoning, yes we have. Our housing is double the
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Speaker 12: cost it should be.
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Speaker 1: Basically, if you look.
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Speaker 12: At a low zoning regulation like say Houston and Texas,
24:38
Speaker 12: if we have the same kind of zoning as then
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Speaker 12: our housing price to be half what they are. That's
24:43
Speaker 12: an appalling, appalling burden on people who want to buy
24:48
Speaker 12: a house, and those who can buy a house are
24:50
Speaker 12: going to pay an extra half a million dollars, which
24:53
Speaker 12: is like thirty thousand dollars a year for thirty years
24:56
Speaker 12: because of this ridiculously over regulated mark. We need to
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Speaker 12: lift the zoning. If anything, Labor is not as bad
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Speaker 12: as the Liberals. They've made a slight attempt to change it,
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Speaker 12: but they're not good enough. It's an appalling situation we
25:10
Speaker 12: are taking money from ordinary people, from Battler's from there
25:13
Speaker 12: or many people, and giving it to the ultra rich
25:15
Speaker 12: property owners, and it's just appalling.
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Speaker 1: We talked a lot during COVID. You were very vocal,
25:21
Speaker 1: as many of us were, about the longest lockdowns in
25:24
Speaker 1: the world and the crazy, ridiculous things that you know,
25:27
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let a gym's mowing man go and mow
25:31
Speaker 1: a lord on his own out in the middle of
25:32
Speaker 1: nowhere in the fresh air. What was the actual trigger though,
25:36
Speaker 1: that made you decide to put your hand up and
25:39
Speaker 1: enter the grubby world of politics.
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Speaker 12: Because I've just come to realize how bad the situation
25:45
Speaker 12: is with zoning. I've got kids who are wanting to
25:49
Speaker 12: buy houses and the actual extraordinary difficult of the years. Look,
25:53
Speaker 12: one of my daughters and a partner wanted to go
25:55
Speaker 12: and rent a house, not as ship, but they wanted
25:57
Speaker 12: to rent a flat forty people to forty people to
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Speaker 12: try and rent this very high price apartment. I actually
26:05
Speaker 12: wrote to the agent and I said, listen, I will
26:09
Speaker 12: pay a year's rent in advance in cash so my
26:12
Speaker 12: daughter can rent a place.
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Speaker 11: And even that wasn't good enough. It's just a ridiculous situation.
26:17
Speaker 12: We could have ample housing at a low cost, we
26:19
Speaker 12: could have low cost rent, We could get the homeless
26:22
Speaker 12: people off the streets into resident if we just allowed
26:25
Speaker 12: the market to have its way. And no political party
26:29
Speaker 12: right now is coming to grips with this issue, which
26:31
Speaker 12: is why I've chosen libertarians. And the only part of
26:33
Speaker 12: it has a sens sensible policy on this matter.
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Speaker 1: Is that a state or federal issue?
26:40
Speaker 11: This?
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've got the state government now
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Speaker 1: saying they're going to build, you know, allow medium to
26:47
Speaker 1: high rise apartment developments along transport routes. Is that the
26:52
Speaker 1: sort of change that you are happy with.
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Speaker 12: It's the right direction, just doesn't go far enough. Look,
26:59
Speaker 12: our housing prices are like that, they're at least double
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Speaker 12: what there should be. Maybe they'll they'll stop the rent
27:06
Speaker 12: from going out quite so much, but they're not gonna.
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Speaker 11: They're not gonna. It's not good enough. It's not enough.
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Speaker 12: There's really no good reason to have zoning at all.
27:15
Speaker 12: We were much better off if we simply let the
27:17
Speaker 12: market decide. Now, maybe small things like you don't put
27:20
Speaker 12: in a factory in the middle of a residential zone,
27:23
Speaker 12: but most of zoning is just an incredible waste of time.
27:26
Speaker 12: It stops people building the houses they want. It stops landlords,
27:30
Speaker 12: It stops owners from building what they want to. It
27:33
Speaker 12: stops people buying where they want, living where they want.
27:35
Speaker 12: They have to move further out, they have to have
27:37
Speaker 12: cars when they don't need cars, because the councils as
27:41
Speaker 12: you've got to have the space for cars, even if
27:43
Speaker 12: you're next to the station. Don't mean stupid things. It's
27:46
Speaker 12: just awful the suffering that comes in. And the only
27:50
Speaker 12: benefit you can see is that really rich people.
27:52
Speaker 11: Like myself get even richer. Just give you an example.
27:55
Speaker 12: I bought two properties next door to each other twenty
27:59
Speaker 12: three years ago. Okay, they cost me just unders three
28:01
Speaker 12: million dollars. Now, based on inflation, they were probably worth
28:04
Speaker 12: about five and a half million dollars. There worth more
28:07
Speaker 12: than ten million dollars. Somebody has gifted me a multi
28:11
Speaker 12: millionaire with four and a half million dollars worth of
28:15
Speaker 12: extra assets, which frankly I don't need because I didn't
28:17
Speaker 12: not sell them anyway. And it's so unfair that young
28:21
Speaker 12: people can't afford to buy a house, people can't afford
28:24
Speaker 12: to rent because these stupid, unfair policies which screw ordinary
28:29
Speaker 12: people and only helped some wealthy landowners. It's just wrong.
28:33
Speaker 12: We're a democratic country. Why don't we run it for
28:35
Speaker 12: the benefit of ordinary people and instead of just looking
28:37
Speaker 12: for the elites, whether they're the elites of the landowners
28:40
Speaker 12: for the liberals, or whether they're elaps of the unions
28:44
Speaker 12: who want a featherbed contract and corruption and stuff like that,
28:47
Speaker 12: about what about policies actually help ordinary people have a
28:50
Speaker 12: better life.
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Speaker 1: I love your passion, Jim, good luck with the campaign.
28:55
Speaker 1: We'll see how you go and North get Jim Penman.
28:57
Speaker 1: They're making out of a lot of sense. After the break,
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Speaker 1: take you to the UK laterst time here starmake and
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Speaker 1: he survive or is he on borrowed time? That's up next?
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Steve Price with you. Well, the clock
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Speaker 1: is ticking on, sir Kiirs Starmer will get to the
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Speaker 1: UK in just one moment. But I want to come
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Speaker 1: back to the biggest story of the week out of Victoria.
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Speaker 1: And I've got to say, even for me, this is unbelievable,
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Speaker 1: astonishing revelations that the Victorian labor government absolutely tried to
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Speaker 1: cover up allegations that more than fifteen billion dollars in
29:33
Speaker 1: funding into big build projects has been siphoned off to
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Speaker 1: criminal networks. Bikey's organized crime. It's just extraordinary. Joining us
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Speaker 1: in the studio, Victorian Shadow Minister for Industrial Relations Brad Roswell. Brad, welcome,
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Speaker 1: thanks to these numbers. Fifteen billion. Is that the extent
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Speaker 1: of it or could it be more?
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Speaker 13: Well, you know, you had Jeffrey Watson on the stand
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Speaker 13: saying that it's fifteen to thirty billion dollars, So you've
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Speaker 13: got the premiere yesterday j Justintera Allen who's either been
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Speaker 13: responsible for the infrastructure projects will be in the premier
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Speaker 13: of the state for close to a decade now saying
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Speaker 13: yesterday that she thinks the numbers are a bit fudgy rubbery.
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Speaker 13: She can't confirm whether that's the case.
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Speaker 1: It's a legitimate any time.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, but I think a legitimate question in reply is well, premiere,
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Speaker 13: even if it's fifteen billion or not thirty billion, even
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Speaker 13: if it's one billion, even if it's ten dollars, Steve,
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Speaker 13: the point is this Victorian taxpayers money should be respected
30:30
Speaker 13: and under labor and they've been there for eleven years,
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Speaker 13: almost twelve years. Hard working Victorian taxpayers money is not respected.
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Speaker 1: Well, here's the runted out of the Dan Andrews schoolbook
30:41
Speaker 1: of how to have a media conference and a look.
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Speaker 14: Actually, fifteen billion dollars has been added to some of
30:47
Speaker 14: these major projects from corruption, potentially even thirty billion. How
30:51
Speaker 14: can taxpayers be confident that your government is doing enough?
30:54
Speaker 14: There's thirty billion dollars potentially billions more flowing into the
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Speaker 14: hands of criminals.
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Speaker 15: I want to be and I appreciate you've raised this
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Speaker 15: at the outset. I want to be absolutely clear that
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Speaker 15: that is a claim that the administrator has said is
31:10
Speaker 15: not well tested or properly founded. So let's be clear
31:15
Speaker 15: that is not a claim that has been substantiated by
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Speaker 15: the administrator.
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Speaker 1: Let me be very clear. She said about it when
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Speaker 1: if we've heard that before the detail I mean, she
31:27
Speaker 1: keeps going back to a date in twenty twenty four
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Speaker 1: when I think sixty minutes and the Age newspaper broke
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Speaker 1: this original seat in MEWS story. What about the five
31:37
Speaker 1: years prior to that that she was the minister in
31:39
Speaker 1: charge of these big bill projects.
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Speaker 13: No, no, indeed, she has absolute responses.
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Speaker 1: She read the Age, she knew nothing about it.
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Speaker 13: She has and Jeffrey Watson, again on the stand, said
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Speaker 13: that if Victorians know about this, there is no reason
31:52
Speaker 13: why the Labor government and Labor government ministers don't know
31:55
Speaker 13: about this. Now, the premier's response to that very good
31:58
Speaker 13: question by a Sky News journalist is absolute rubbish insofar
32:03
Speaker 13: as that same unit administrator was appointed by a federal
32:08
Speaker 13: labor government and that same administrator of the CFMU is
32:13
Speaker 13: the same person that Jeffrey Watson on the stand in
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Speaker 13: Queensland earlier this week said had redacted his report to
32:21
Speaker 13: a point where the figures, the fifteen billion dollar figure
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Speaker 13: was redacted until Jeffrey Watson himself was on the stand
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Speaker 13: and actually gave voice to the claims that he has.
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Speaker 13: They have tried to hide it. But we can talk
32:36
Speaker 13: about the internals of this, Steve. The real life impact
32:40
Speaker 13: of this is the thing that I think Victorians and
32:42
Speaker 13: those around the country will be most concerned by. That
32:46
Speaker 13: fifteen billion dollars is effectively just Cinder Ellen going up
32:50
Speaker 13: to a househole in Victoria, tapping on the door and saying,
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Speaker 13: hand over five thousand dollars. If five thousand dollars, CFMU
32:58
Speaker 13: tax a tax on every Victorian household.
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Speaker 1: So let me simplify this. I mean, clearly what's happened
33:05
Speaker 1: is these big bi projects launched by Daniel Andrews, whether
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Speaker 1: it be the east Link, or whether it be the
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Speaker 1: Westgate Tunnel, or whether it be the suburban railroap in.
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Speaker 1: Somebody within the union movement has worked out that if
33:19
Speaker 1: they can get union ownership of all of these sites,
33:23
Speaker 1: they're going to have jobs for life, and they're going
33:26
Speaker 1: to be able to turn it into a money making
33:28
Speaker 1: exercise for them like an organized crime racket.
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Speaker 13: Which is precisely the accusation which Labour now denying is
33:35
Speaker 13: the case, and Wonde establish a Royal commission into investigating
33:39
Speaker 13: and uncovering because it frankly doesn't suit them, their political mates,
33:43
Speaker 13: their union mates, or their political narratives, and all the
33:46
Speaker 13: while it's Victorians who are worse off because of their inaction.
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Speaker 1: Where's Iback in this?
33:51
Speaker 13: Well, my expectation upon Iback, I think Victorian's expectation is
33:55
Speaker 13: that they would have investigated this, would have there would have.
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Speaker 1: Been a self reference.
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Speaker 2: They didn't do that.
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Speaker 13: The opposition has written two Iback. We understand that they
34:03
Speaker 13: are assessing those claims. But my response to that is
34:07
Speaker 13: whilst the rest of the country has determined this is
34:09
Speaker 13: worthy of investigation. We've got the integrity watchdog here in
34:13
Speaker 13: Victoria is still assessing whether these claims are worthy of investigation.
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Speaker 13: I don't think that that is good enough. I don't
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Speaker 13: think that passes.
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Speaker 1: When I was in New South Wales was the corruption
34:21
Speaker 1: Commission up there. Barrio Pharaoh lost his job because someone
34:25
Speaker 1: left a bottle of red wine on his doorstep, and
34:28
Speaker 1: Gladys burrigicalarly and lost her job because of a relationship
34:32
Speaker 1: you had with another member of parliament.
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Speaker 13: Well, there are standards and then there are Victorian standards.
34:37
Speaker 13: And sadly, this government has been at the helm for
34:40
Speaker 13: eleven out of the last how many of the years
34:43
Speaker 13: on track to be twelve years, and they have underfunded.
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Speaker 1: IBACK year on year.
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Speaker 13: IBACK itself has been relying upon Treasurer's advance after Treasurer's
34:51
Speaker 13: advance just to meet budget. Labor Minister's time and time
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Speaker 13: again are at pains to undermine and dismiss reports from
34:59
Speaker 13: the Ombitsman and from other integrity agencies. There's a Victorian
35:03
Speaker 13: standard and then there's a standard expected by the rest
35:05
Speaker 13: of the country.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope that the public now are across this
35:09
Speaker 1: and you know, come the time when we get to November,
35:14
Speaker 1: there they're angry about it.
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Speaker 13: Well indeed, and look, we're not waiting to November to
35:19
Speaker 13: come up with solutions for these sort of things. Right,
35:22
Speaker 13: We've already said that there should be a Royal commission.
35:24
Speaker 13: We've established a Royal commission. We've already said that in
35:26
Speaker 13: place of the Federal Labour government scrapping the Federal Building Watchdog,
35:30
Speaker 13: that we would established a Victorian building Watchdog. And you
35:34
Speaker 13: know from opposition, Steve, what we're trying to do is
35:36
Speaker 13: present as an alternative government and provide those policies and
35:39
Speaker 13: that assurance Victorians right.
35:40
Speaker 1: Now plumbing Mount Kelban, Jerald talk to you about that
35:43
Speaker 1: at another time. No worries, look for a trade effort.
35:45
Speaker 1: Now I want to turn to the future of the
35:47
Speaker 1: British Prime Minister. Critici is saying that kids Stamer's time
35:50
Speaker 1: as the Labor leader is up. His political decisions have
35:54
Speaker 1: betrayed voters, joining us on the line as he does
35:56
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Skyne News contributor Adrian Hayes tonight
36:00
Speaker 1: he's beck in Dubai. Adrian, great to see you again.
36:03
Speaker 1: How long Starma got.
36:06
Speaker 11: Oh, how long is a piece of string? Steve.
36:08
Speaker 16: Look, most people are sort of betting after the local
36:11
Speaker 16: council elections in May that he will be gone. But
36:13
Speaker 16: there's no obvious successor because the whole of the front
36:17
Speaker 16: bench is full of rather unleader like leaders and that's
36:22
Speaker 16: the whole problem he's got. It's probably the best we
36:24
Speaker 16: have a right at present.
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Speaker 1: Is he the most unpopular British Prime Minister you've ever
36:31
Speaker 1: lived under?
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Speaker 16: Yes, and I'm older than you probably think, but you
36:37
Speaker 16: know I've lived under quite a few. And to be fair,
36:40
Speaker 16: I always like to think give people ten percent of right.
36:43
Speaker 3: You know, the last logo.
36:46
Speaker 16: We had a succession of pretty incompetent leaders and it
36:50
Speaker 16: just shows that we've got the weakest leaders I think,
36:53
Speaker 16: not just in politics, across all sectors of industry that
36:55
Speaker 16: we've had in a generation. But I mean, I think
36:58
Speaker 16: the article you're going to put up is about a
37:00
Speaker 16: decent man Underneathan All but I think a lot of
37:02
Speaker 16: British boss would use some other choice words that begin
37:04
Speaker 16: with D. Deceitful, deceptive, distrusting and perhaps desperate. I mean,
37:10
Speaker 16: he is, and it's just it's just a thing called judgment.
37:12
Speaker 16: Seev of that's the greatest quality of leaders. We need
37:16
Speaker 16: sound and excellent judgment. It's been one thing after another
37:19
Speaker 16: that's brought himself down due to his owner decision making.
37:24
Speaker 1: You're a tough guy. He's chinless. I see him and
37:27
Speaker 1: I say, a chinless man.
37:31
Speaker 2: He's not a leader.
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Speaker 16: And this is the whole point. I think that that
37:34
Speaker 16: human rights lawyers, which I think have lost their credibility
37:37
Speaker 16: big time.
37:38
Speaker 11: He may have been a good lawyer.
37:39
Speaker 16: I'm surprised because lawyers you think are very detailed people.
37:43
Speaker 11: But he doesn't see no have of that either.
37:45
Speaker 16: There is not the courage, the conviction, the competence that
37:48
Speaker 16: you need to be.
37:49
Speaker 11: A prime minister.
37:49
Speaker 16: Whether it's Australia, whether it's Uganda, whether it's UK, it's
37:53
Speaker 16: it's just sadly, sadly lacking. But as I said, I
37:56
Speaker 16: think it's across the whole board and not just the
37:58
Speaker 16: Labor Party.
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Speaker 1: I I want to talk about. One of the richest
38:02
Speaker 1: men in the UK is the co owner of the
38:04
Speaker 1: Manchester United English soccer team, Jim Ratcliffe's name. He's apologized
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Speaker 1: for his choice of language after saying the UK had
38:14
Speaker 1: an immigrant problem and it had been quite colonized here
38:17
Speaker 1: he is don't afford.
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Speaker 17: You can't have an economy with nine million people on
38:22
Speaker 17: benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in. I mean
38:27
Speaker 17: that the UK has been colonized. It's costing too much money,
38:31
Speaker 17: it will cause it will the UK has been colonized
38:36
Speaker 17: by immigrants.
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Speaker 2: Really, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: Basically not wrong? Is he no?
38:44
Speaker 11: Look a choice of words. It's a colorful word.
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Speaker 16: As some people may say, oh because the other side
38:50
Speaker 16: that like the decolonization on the top of a gender.
38:53
Speaker 16: But if he said, look, we have got uncustration. It's
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Speaker 16: affecting greatly our economy, our society and culture and our environment,
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Speaker 16: most people would have agreed with him. And it's even
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Speaker 16: including Kirs Starmer.
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Speaker 2: He used.
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Speaker 16: Of course, they've attacked him for using this word, and
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Speaker 16: he has actually apologized. But when you think, you know,
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Speaker 16: it's not about immigration, it's about a numbers game. And
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Speaker 16: this is where when sustainable immigration becomes unsustainable, twelve million
39:22
Speaker 16: people in the last twenty years or so, your have
39:25
Speaker 16: impacts and effects in the UK is suffering greatly from it.
39:30
Speaker 1: Just before you go, the Epstein story won't go. Why
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Speaker 1: bucking In Palace verged authorities to search files and emails
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Speaker 1: linked linked to Andrew. The Royal family really are going
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Speaker 1: to have to rid themselves of Andrew, even more than
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Speaker 1: they have already. Why haven't they? Won't they?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 16: The news gets worse every day, the latest one being
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Speaker 16: that the late Queen, Prince Philip and even Prince Charles
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Speaker 16: helped bell Andrew alf for his twelve million dollar loan
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Speaker 16: to Virginia Guffrey. But it's worse and worth child trafficking
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Speaker 16: or people beings flown to the UK.
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Speaker 2: I mean, where does he go?
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Speaker 16: I think, to be honest, I think if I was him,
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Speaker 16: and I feel sorry from some stage, I would take
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Speaker 16: a few years in exile just to just to really
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Speaker 16: let the dust settle, because it's not going away any
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Speaker 16: moment soon.
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Speaker 1: Adrian, it was good to catch up with You might
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Speaker 1: see Andrew there in Dubai at some point, Thank you
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Speaker 1: very much for that. Coming up next, we'll dive into
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Speaker 1: more news of the week with our Friday night panel.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait. Favorite time of the week, Welcome back Rondine.
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Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour. Friday night
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Speaker 1: panel time, my favorite time of the week. Jimmy Tonyini
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Speaker 1: of GT Communications joins us and Sky News contributed to
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Speaker 1: Joe Hilde Brown Grays, great to see you. It's not
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Speaker 1: much news been happening today. It's been one of those
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Speaker 1: sort of quiet, slow old days. But our old, our
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Speaker 1: old mate, the smartest man in the room, if you
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Speaker 1: ask him, Malcolm Turble, well, he couldn't help himself. This morning.
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Speaker 1: He fronted up at his favorite media outlet, the ABC,
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Speaker 1: as usual to take another swipe at Sky News but
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Speaker 1: also the outlook for the Liberal Party under the leadership
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Speaker 1: of Angus Taylor. Here's the miserable ghost.
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Speaker 5: I mean, the curious thing about a lot of people
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Speaker 5: say about Angus Taylor is he is the best qualified
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Speaker 5: idiot they've ever met. I mean, this is a tough
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Speaker 5: thing to say, but what they're saying is this guy's
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Speaker 5: got all these degrees, He's got all of these qualifications.
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Speaker 5: Is Rhodes Scholet Mind you, there are dimer dozen look
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Speaker 5: at me and Tony Abbott. But the bottom line is
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Speaker 5: that he has not delivered the sort of the positive
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Speaker 5: policy agendas, the real achievements in government that you'd expect
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Speaker 5: from somebody with those qualifications.
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Speaker 1: Jim and I don't know what the corrugated iron is
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Speaker 1: all about. He's presumably in the shed of one of
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Speaker 1: his farms somewhere in Region Australia. This is the bloke
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Speaker 1: you lost sixteen seats when that Tony Abbott had won.
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Speaker 1: Refused to come out of his his mansion on Sydney
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Speaker 1: Harbor on election night until about two o'clock in the morning,
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Speaker 1: so we all had to stay on air talking about him,
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Speaker 1: and he's out there bagging Angus Taylor. I mean, is
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Speaker 1: this guy, I mean, why doesn't he just shut up
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Speaker 1: and go away?
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Speaker 4: Well, only he can answer that, I suppose, because there's
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Speaker 4: people like people being the National Broadcaster who are still
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Speaker 4: willing to give him a platform when he's essentially irrelevant.
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Speaker 4: But you know, he said, oh, it's a tough thing
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Speaker 4: to say, saying that about Angus Taylor.
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Speaker 12: I would go I would actually take.
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Speaker 4: A different view on that, Like, it's an incredibly unkind,
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Speaker 4: ungracious and fundamentally unnecessary thing for mister Turnbull to say.
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Speaker 4: Why he would choose to say it? Only he can
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Speaker 4: answer that. But I would just make this observation, as
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Speaker 4: you said, he was responsible for an absolute electoral disembowment
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Speaker 4: for the Liberal Party, swore that he wouldn't be a
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Speaker 4: miserable ghost and has broken that promise to the Australian
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Speaker 4: people day in day out. Since he was turfed out,
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Speaker 4: you would think a little bit of I just don't
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Speaker 4: understand and how a person with so much to give
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Speaker 4: chooses to say things like that. I think it's unhelpful,
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Speaker 4: it's unedifying, and it's beneath the filmer Prime Minister of
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Speaker 4: this nation. As probably one of the last five women
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Speaker 4: left in Australia who wants to vote for the Liberal Party,
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Speaker 4: I wish Hangus Taylor well and I want them to
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Speaker 4: succeed because I genuinely believe the policy platforms that have
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Speaker 4: been delivered by the Albanese government, particularly under Treasurer Jim Chalmers,
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Speaker 4: have been devastating for this country.
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Speaker 1: Joe, if you want to go back and trace the
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Speaker 1: DNA of the beginning of the destruction of the modern
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Speaker 1: Liberal Party, it could start no better than that bloke
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Speaker 1: in the pink shirt. Yeah.
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Speaker 18: Look, I think the solution to the Liberal Party as
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Speaker 18: to whether it moves to the left or the right
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Speaker 18: has to be both. And we have seen that when
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Speaker 18: it moves too far one way or the other, it
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Speaker 18: gets in all sorts of trouble. So you know, witness
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Speaker 18: Peter Darton at the last election, witness Malcolm Turble at
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Speaker 18: the twenty sixteen election. And so as long as it
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Speaker 18: can sort of as you know, and again I've been
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Speaker 18: saying this since I was telling Blue in the face,
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Speaker 18: it has to be what John Howard called the broad church,
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Speaker 18: and it has to be led by someone who can
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Speaker 18: straddle both the more moderate and conservative wings, who is
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Speaker 18: trusted by both of those wings, even if they don't
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Speaker 18: necessarily agree with every decision that's made, and that both
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Speaker 18: of those wings have the good sense and the decency
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Speaker 18: and the intelligence to just shut the hell up and
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Speaker 18: put the interest of the party first, because otherwise there
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Speaker 18: is no way they will find their way back into government.
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Speaker 18: And for Malcolm turned I mean, the thing is, you know,
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Speaker 18: as we have said, and I remember years ago after
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Speaker 18: he first I think after twenty sixteen, I was talking
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Speaker 18: to a labor strategist made of Mind, and he said,
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Speaker 18: he said, what people keep forgetting is that Malcolm Turnbull
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Speaker 18: is terrible at politics. He is just no good at
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Speaker 18: pol politics. And we saw that, well, you could argue
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Speaker 18: we saw that when he first you know, managed to
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Speaker 18: stack the seat of Wentworth. Then when he was opposition
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Speaker 18: leader and he fell for ute Gate.
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Speaker 2: Then when he.
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Speaker 18: Had his second coming and you know it was he
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Speaker 18: had just approval ratings, you know, political capital to burn
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Speaker 18: and he burned it all but for nothing, for no
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Speaker 18: real sort of policy at that one good point of
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Speaker 18: finger out And so you know, and now and again
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Speaker 18: because if he destroys the Liberal parties he seems intent
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Speaker 18: on doing, then One Nation will be the next opposition
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Speaker 18: party of Australia.
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Speaker 1: Is that what he wants? He just loves the sound
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Speaker 1: of his own voice. That's part of the problem. I
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Speaker 1: want to talk about this garage sale that suddenly we've
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Speaker 1: got to have around these defense assets everywhere. I want
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Speaker 1: the better self interest to you, I must say. Swan
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Speaker 1: Island off Queens Clave in Victoria is a top secret
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Speaker 1: military training base. They won't tell you what goes on
45:51
Speaker 1: there and if you go on to Swan Island you've
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Speaker 1: got to show your driver's license, drive over a little
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Speaker 1: single lane bridge to get there. But it's the home
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Speaker 1: of the mind Queenscliff Golf Club. Now, are we really
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Speaker 1: that desperate for money in Canberra that we're going to
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Speaker 1: flog off this beautiful golf course? Gemma on the side
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Speaker 1: of Swan Island, which is one of the great places
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Speaker 1: in the world.
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Speaker 4: But this is sort of speaks to my earlier point
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Speaker 4: about the economic mismanagement of Jim Chalmers's treasure, like you
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Speaker 4: don't sell Every Italian will tell you, Steve, you don't
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Speaker 4: sell land, You bank your land.
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Speaker 1: Every every person in this.
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Speaker 4: Country is not in an agreement you keep your land
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Speaker 4: assets jokes aside. It is the sign of quiet desperation
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Speaker 4: if they're looking to flog off this kind of strategic locations,
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Speaker 4: their defense locations underfunding and the neglect of the Defense
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Speaker 4: Service has been well reported under this government's watch. It
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Speaker 4: is a terrible decision. Is it is not a strategic decision?
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Speaker 4: And what do they do when they run out of
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Speaker 4: things to sell? Like, come on, stop spending. Every household
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Speaker 4: in Australia, every more business owner in Australia knows what
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Speaker 4: it's like to live within their means. If you can't
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Speaker 4: afford it, you don't buy it. Stops in the industries,
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Speaker 4: well exactly, stop Victoria.
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Speaker 1: They everything, They've got nothing else, They've got nothing else
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Speaker 1: to sell. I mean, seriously, Joe, I want to Sorry, Joe,
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Speaker 1: I've got to get into this most depressing piece of
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Speaker 1: economic news that I've heard in the last fifty years.
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Speaker 1: How can it be that Barbecue's Galore has gone into
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Speaker 1: receivership amid liquidity problems. This is Australia. We invented the barbecue,
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Speaker 1: well we sort of did. How can this be a thing,
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Speaker 1: Barbecue's Galaw going broke? Really? Yeah, this is one of
47:42
Speaker 1: those things.
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Speaker 18: And you see this with all these iconic Australian brands
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Speaker 18: that go under, and I have the same visceral reaction.
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Speaker 18: I think Barbecuess Galaw going under, and then I think,
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Speaker 18: when was the last time I actually set foot in
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Speaker 18: a Barbecue's Glaw?
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Speaker 1: And I can't even I know.
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Speaker 18: No, I'm saying I'm taking responsible.
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Speaker 1: Tell of them.
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Speaker 18: I reckon, I reckon, It's I reckon, It's Bunnings. I
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Speaker 18: reckon Bunnings.
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Speaker 2: Now just.
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Speaker 11: My mind.
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Speaker 4: You read my last hebecues I got from Bunnings.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, I won't hear that Barbecues Glore has a bigger range.
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Speaker 1: You can buy the little wood chips, you can buy
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Speaker 1: all of the things that you know, the side things
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Speaker 1: that you need to have a great thing. Next thing. Please, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm then I'm on board. Barbecues Glore. Thank you both
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Speaker 1: very much. Have a barbecue on the weekend, even perhaps
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Speaker 1: go and buy a new barbecue from Barbecues Galore and
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Speaker 1: try and save that magnificent business. Thank you, Joe, Thank
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Speaker 1: you Jemma. Coming up next, we have, of course, the world.
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Speaker 1: According to Rowan Deane, it's going to be very interesting
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Speaker 1: to see what Angus Taylor and his new deputy actually
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Speaker 1: get up to tomorrow. I'll see you next Friday night.