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Chad and BlackJack Reunite to discuss NBA Playoffs and Beyond · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

0:08
Speaker 1: Look up, Fads, I'm your house chat. I am the host,
0:23
Speaker 1: Chad Noman. You're not allowed to mock me in front
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Speaker 1: of me. You two were almost insane podcast. That's like,
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Speaker 1: it's it's disrespectful. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: I'm not that nasily. Am I that nasily? Now you are?
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Speaker 1: You know what's nice? You know what's nice? Black Jack?
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Speaker 1: You and I together again, staring into each other's eyes,
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Speaker 1: me getting a close look at your chest hair and
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Speaker 1: gold rope chain behind your gold lemon jackie it in
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Speaker 1: which you are wearing no shirt, no shirt together again.
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Speaker 1: Oh how I've missed you for the first time in
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Speaker 1: like months. Actually, yeah, you know what happened. I blame
1:12
Speaker 1: Matt Ford, the producer. I'm blaming matt Ford for not
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Speaker 1: being the room right now. So I'm blaming Thatt Forward
1:17
Speaker 1: for not being here and leaving Antonio to mock me.
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Speaker 1: If Matt was HERERI would have mocked you worse. So true.
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Speaker 1: Um no, but Matt Ford somehow decided to tear us
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Speaker 1: apart in sort of the way we did the podcast,
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Speaker 1: and I, being a leader, was like I'm putting my
1:36
Speaker 1: foot down. There's all more more crap. You call it
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Speaker 1: being a leader. I'm just gonna say you were jealous
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Speaker 1: that me and Lduca became closer than me and you.
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Speaker 1: You and Lduca have a very popular radio show on
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Speaker 1: Shannon Lady seven, the Fantasy Network on Sirius every morning
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Speaker 1: from nine to eleven a m. Eastern CC that comment
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Speaker 1: to my agent, you don't need uh, you don't need
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Speaker 1: more pack past time. You and I, however, you know
2:03
Speaker 1: what we need to do. This is like were like
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Speaker 1: couples counsels thing and more like preseason, like we're getting
2:09
Speaker 1: into it, like we gotta get ready for the NFL
2:11
Speaker 1: season because the last one went so well. You and me, baby,
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Speaker 1: You and me? You think the song is you and I?
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Speaker 1: So that's proper grammar? No nobody baby but you. I
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Speaker 1: think it's like you're just making something up. No, it's
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Speaker 1: by Penny in the Quarters. Okay, that's not a thing.
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Speaker 1: How much you want to bet? I'm literally looking at Antonio.
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Speaker 1: Are you looking it up? All right? Both of you
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Speaker 1: guys can look it up. Are you ready to do
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Speaker 1: some hardcore gambling conversation? Hard core? Because if you're not
2:44
Speaker 1: hard we got Eastern Conference finals tied to two. We
2:49
Speaker 1: got Western Conference finals sweep. We got NBA finals that
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Speaker 1: we got to discuss. We got Stanley Cup Finals that
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Speaker 1: we got to discuss. You had Dale Earnhardt Jr. On
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Speaker 1: The Show and the Serious Show. There's a couple of
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Speaker 1: questions I want to ask you about that. Do you
3:09
Speaker 1: feel like talking to any baseball I made a baseball
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Speaker 1: features that. Sure, what do you want to talk about? First?
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Speaker 1: You want to talk about NBA? We should probably go
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Speaker 1: with what's relevant topically and go with the NBA. Look
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Speaker 1: at you, You've got a radio show and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, I know what we should do
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Speaker 1: on something? Someone talk about something relevant topically, Like you've
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Speaker 1: never used that phrase in your life. Somebody has to
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Speaker 1: be the adult in the room, and somehow that's become me.
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Speaker 1: Why are you looking at Antonio when you say that,
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Speaker 1: because he knows he knows people see what's going on?
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Speaker 1: Six months? Still have your job over under me? Ye?
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Speaker 1: Six months to any of us have a job question?
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Speaker 1: You've made me become the adult in the room. Uh,
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Speaker 1: what's the what's a line on that? You said? Six months? Under?
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Speaker 1: Six months until I'm head of content at the Action
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Speaker 1: Network minus one. I would take the plus money on that.
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Speaker 1: Good luck with that, buddy. You don't realize I'm slowly
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Speaker 1: usurping your role. It's not slow. This is a is
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Speaker 1: the long con. I'm so keen politically. I know how
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Speaker 1: to maneuver. I'm glad you think. So what do you
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Speaker 1: think of the Bucks Raptors? Uh, let's talk about it
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Speaker 1: for a second. Can we be real here? Wow? Look
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Speaker 1: all right, you're taking too long. I like Toronto was
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Speaker 1: on the Bucks last night. At everyone else at this
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Speaker 1: company was um, not me and not Paula Duca. Paula
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Speaker 1: Duke had forty units on the Raptors. I was not
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Speaker 1: quite that heavy on them. But the Raptors. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: like Toronto. Um, I think that this. I said it
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Speaker 1: from the beginning. I thought this was seven games. I
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Speaker 1: still think it's seven games. Toronto displayed last night to
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Speaker 1: be a lot of toughness, like mental toughness, because I wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I thought after Game three, even though they won Game three,
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Speaker 1: I thought they were done because it took everything in
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Speaker 1: the world to go right for them, y honest, to
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Speaker 1: score twelve points and double over time for them to
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Speaker 1: get a win. That felt like a recipe for disaster
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Speaker 1: and then they come out in Game four and they
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Speaker 1: control it. I mean, they controlled that game start to finish,
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Speaker 1: and I love what they did in what was Kawai
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Speaker 1: Leonard's worst game of the playoffs. So why do you
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Speaker 1: But I don't really understand why you were betting on
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Speaker 1: the Raptors if they needed all those things to be true,
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Speaker 1: because Milwaukee shouldn't have been a favorite on the road
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Speaker 1: in that game. It shouldn't have been a three point favorite.
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Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I did think it was weird.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was like a massive over adjustment, and
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Speaker 1: I thought it was weird when sort of some of
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Speaker 1: the sharpest people at Action Network started betting in Milwaukee too,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, man, this seems a little weird.
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Speaker 1: And I went with it just because I hadn't done
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Speaker 1: my research yet and the people I thought were really
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Speaker 1: smart were doing it, and that's how I live. I
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Speaker 1: gotta get some action. Yeah, well, I mean they they
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Speaker 1: listen to the bench. Production for Toronto was outstanding. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Norman Powell, how the hell does he shoot thirteen threes
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Speaker 1: in the game. I don't. I didn't even though he
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Speaker 1: had that shot in his arsenal let alone thirteen. There
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Speaker 1: was a stat last night during the game that this
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Speaker 1: was the most points he had had since the two
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Speaker 1: thousand seven in a playoff game, since two thousand seventeen.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a random fact, Like it's only
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Speaker 1: two years ago and it's Norman Powell. It's not like
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Speaker 1: it's Michael Jordan's scoring seventy five and he normally scores forty.
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Speaker 1: It's Norman Powell, who might normally score like fifteen at
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Speaker 1: the most, getting twenty five in the first half or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Like that wasn't a stat that was like barstool always
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Speaker 1: does that saber metrics thing. That felt like saber metric. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think I still like Toronto because I think I
6:55
Speaker 1: think Toronto, over these last few years of kind of
6:58
Speaker 1: getting their ass handed to him by Lebron James in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, I think they've developed a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a thick skin. I think they're tougher than than we
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Speaker 1: give them credit for. Particularly Kyle Lowry. I've become a
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Speaker 1: big fan of Kyle Lowry in these playoffs. Guy's a
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Speaker 1: bulldog man, plays defense, hard nosed. You know, he's the
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Speaker 1: guy that'll get out there. He'll take a charge, he's
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Speaker 1: he's enthusiastic on defense, and when he's putting up twenty
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Speaker 1: five points, you're not beating the Raptors. Do you feel
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Speaker 1: like Kyle Lowry is thinking that this is a bittersweet
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Speaker 1: experience for him because without to Rosen, without to row
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Speaker 1: De Rosen, But like, Kawhi Leonard is so good. He's like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy Kauai versus I kind of
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Speaker 1: wish my best friend was here. I'm sure there's a
7:39
Speaker 1: little bit of him wishing to Rosen was there. But
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Speaker 1: I also think, I mean, it's no secret Kawhi Leonard
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Speaker 1: Kauai not Kauai. Kyle Lowry doesn't really have a great
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Speaker 1: relationship with the Raptors front office, and I think that's
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Speaker 1: been well documented. But you also have to recognize this
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Speaker 1: is probably his best chance to win a title, and
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he knows that. So yeah, if you can,
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Speaker 1: I Kawhi Leonard into the finals, and you know, give
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Speaker 1: it a run. See what happens. I do love the
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Speaker 1: way both of these cities, this is not gambling specific,
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Speaker 1: but in Toronto they've got Jurassic Park and in Milwaukee
8:13
Speaker 1: they've got what do they call it, like the Deer Something,
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Speaker 1: Deer Valley or whatever. The outdoor experiences that these fans
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Speaker 1: are having, it makes the game so much bigger. It
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Speaker 1: makes them feel like such. It's a magnificent events, it does.
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Speaker 1: And that that's the thing that I've really enjoyed about
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Speaker 1: these playoffs without Lebron in because if Lebron was in
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Speaker 1: this on Cleveland or whatever, you knew, you knew what
8:35
Speaker 1: was happening, it would have taken a monumental upset. But now,
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Speaker 1: like all these cities are kind of into it. Everyone's
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Speaker 1: been really into it. You saw it even in Portland.
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Speaker 1: You know how how excited that city was to make
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Speaker 1: it back to the conference finals. Toronto has been so
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Speaker 1: enthusiastic about supporting the Raptors Milwaukee. It's it's added excitement
8:55
Speaker 1: having a little bit of unknown. Yeah, No, it's great.
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be an opposite of who we
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Speaker 1: think wins this series though, You've got you know, it's
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Speaker 1: now a best of three series and I'm going to
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Speaker 1: be in Milwaukee. Here's the problem with that, I think
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Speaker 1: Milwaukee is that is that what you're saying. No, I
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Speaker 1: think Milwaukee wins Game five. I don't think they cover
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Speaker 1: I think that line is stupid. Is Milwaukee man seven
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Speaker 1: for Game five? Oh my god, are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look in the Action Network gap, which is
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Speaker 1: what free it's right? Uh, it's Milwaukee minus seven. It's
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Speaker 1: an insane number to have out there. That is nuts. Alright,
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Speaker 1: So I probably won't bet Milwaukee minus seven. It's but
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Speaker 1: I do think Milwaukee wins the game. Um, they played
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Speaker 1: differently at home. Your honest is going to get more
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Speaker 1: calls at home. They'll play better there. I think the
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Speaker 1: Raptors hold court in Game six, and then listen, if
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Speaker 1: you're giving me a Game seven. I love the Bucks.
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Speaker 1: They're a great team. Your honest is great, But the
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Speaker 1: Raptors are a team that's been tested. They've been down
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Speaker 1: this road before. Kawai Leonards a guy with championship experience.
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Speaker 1: You saw how important that was in Game seven against
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Speaker 1: the Sixers. I don't think Milwaukee has that level of
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Speaker 1: experience to get it done in the game seven. I
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Speaker 1: don't care that it's in Milwaukee. I would take Toronto
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Speaker 1: in a Game seven. I don't think Kawi Leonards letting
10:19
Speaker 1: that team lose a Game seven. I don't. I don't
10:20
Speaker 1: think it's happening. He might not be able to function
10:23
Speaker 1: by Game seven. That's true, but I think that the
10:25
Speaker 1: Raptors have also found a way to limit Janice's effectiveness.
10:29
Speaker 1: You're not gonna stop him, but like, can we talk
10:32
Speaker 1: for a second about how bad he is from the
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Speaker 1: free throw line? Chad? He had two air balls? Yeah?
10:38
Speaker 1: What was that? Almost third? This guy is an all
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Speaker 1: world player. And I'll be perfectly honest with you, I
10:46
Speaker 1: didn't realize he was this bad from the free throw
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Speaker 1: line until this series. And I think Toronto has figured
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Speaker 1: it out that if he gets in the lane, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna hit him. You're gonna hit him pretty hard. Make
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Speaker 1: him make the free throws or settle for a jump
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Speaker 1: shot because he's not a jump shooter either. He's all right,
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Speaker 1: but he's not great, and I think they figured out
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Speaker 1: how to limit him a little bit. I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: think of something that rhymes with freak, that could be
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Speaker 1: like hack a shack um. On the radio show today,
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Speaker 1: Paul started referring to him as Janice. I can't hit
11:17
Speaker 1: the hoopto That's what he was calling. I gotta say,
11:23
Speaker 1: almost fears like a rare moment of clarity for Laduga.
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Speaker 1: Uh No. The rare moment of clarity was when he
11:30
Speaker 1: accurately corrected the grammar of a newsday reporter on Twitter.
11:33
Speaker 1: That was a shocking moment. He did that too yesterday.
11:37
Speaker 1: I was stunned. Maybe he's learning from us, that's not likely.
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Speaker 1: Um broken clock, my man? How many? So Janice? His uh?
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Speaker 1: I mean his his um props are always kind of amazing, right,
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Speaker 1: because they're so bloated there, like over under thirteen and
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Speaker 1: a half rebounds, over under twenty seven and a half points,
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Speaker 1: um over under five and a half cists for a
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Speaker 1: guy who plays in the paint and it's you know,
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Speaker 1: seven seven, eight hundred pounds. So, but it's hard for
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Speaker 1: me to look at these numbers and never think, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's going over. The only one that actually looks even
12:16
Speaker 1: hardest to me is the rebounds. Like I look at
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Speaker 1: the seven and a half points in a game five,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, of course he's gonna have rebounds. To me, though,
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Speaker 1: that feels like an under. It's a lot too because
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Speaker 1: they have a lot of big bodies on that that
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Speaker 1: Now I know a lot of a lot of their
12:32
Speaker 1: bigs play out on the perimeter, but there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys on that team that hustle for rebounds. I mean, hell,
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Speaker 1: that kid off the bench, Connat, I mean that that guy.
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Speaker 1: Love that guy. My god, have you seen anybody make
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Speaker 1: more of the minutes they're playing in a playoff game
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Speaker 1: than him? I just wish he'd hit a shot. It's
12:48
Speaker 1: not this thing you do. He's like t J McConnell,
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Speaker 1: just taller. I really wish he'd hit a shot. I
12:53
Speaker 1: just feel better for him. Uh. The other one I'm
12:55
Speaker 1: looking at is Eric Bledsoe, Eric bledso what is going
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Speaker 1: on there him? I expected him to be a lights
13:05
Speaker 1: out superstar in this series. I thought this would be
13:09
Speaker 1: a coming out party for terrible, terrible performance. So his
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Speaker 1: totals are all depressed, Like eleven and a half points,
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Speaker 1: four and a half assist, three and a half rebounds,
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Speaker 1: like one and a half, three point field goals made,
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Speaker 1: like these are the right numbers based on playing man
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Speaker 1: he's been. He's been atrocious. He's been really bad. I
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Speaker 1: mean he he's playing worse than Kyrie Irving did in
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Speaker 1: the last round against Milwaukee. He's having just an awful series.
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Speaker 1: And again, I think a lot of that credit cost
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Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry. He's played really good defense. So they're gonna
13:42
Speaker 1: play the Warriors. Somebody's gonna play the Warriors, So we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be on opposite sides for the rest of the series.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on Milwaukee. Um, I think it's gonna
13:50
Speaker 1: be a seven game series. You're gonna be on Toronto.
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Speaker 1: You basically think Kauai is gonna best nice in game seven,
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Speaker 1: which is interesting. Feeling a little set a mental about
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Speaker 1: the Bucks to um. You know, they just feel like
14:03
Speaker 1: a fun seventies and eighties team. To me, I'm excited
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Speaker 1: about sort of Milwaukee becoming a basketball town in Toronto
14:09
Speaker 1: is a better city. Toronto is a pretty great city.
14:13
Speaker 1: Toronto is a great city. Yeah, I can't argue that
14:19
Speaker 1: it's a great town. Canada is a great country. I
14:21
Speaker 1: love Canada. I love Toronto. Toronto is New York without
14:24
Speaker 1: any of the bad stuff. Now it's more like Chicago. Dude.
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Speaker 1: People aren't getting gunned down all over Toronto. Buddy, Look,
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Speaker 1: you're an idiot. It's all the good things about New
14:33
Speaker 1: York without the bad. It's the world's third largest English
14:36
Speaker 1: speaking theater district. You could say that about then you
14:39
Speaker 1: could say it's Chicago to like, people aren't getting goune.
14:41
Speaker 1: It's it's like all the things about Chicago. Okay, yeah,
14:45
Speaker 1: but let's be honest. New York's got more going on
14:47
Speaker 1: in Chicago does really. It's the reason it's called the
14:50
Speaker 1: second city. It's not because it's second to New York.
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Speaker 1: It's because of the politicians. You're gonna make a case
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Speaker 1: for Chicago over New York. I'm going to make a
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Speaker 1: case why is this company headquarters in Chicago. I'm going
15:03
Speaker 1: to make a case for betting on Serge Ibaka under
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Speaker 1: nine and a half rebounds? Where am I going to
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Speaker 1: make a case for over night and a half. That's
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Speaker 1: a crap shoot and it's not a bet that's really
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Speaker 1: worth taking it is. You're right, could go either way,
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Speaker 1: it's not there's no value there. I think jan is
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Speaker 1: under thirteen and a half and over twenty seven and
15:24
Speaker 1: a half is the best place. I would like both
15:26
Speaker 1: of those. Yeah, I go over on the point. Could
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Speaker 1: you agree with me? So when we get to the
15:29
Speaker 1: finals and they have to play the Golden State Warriors,
15:34
Speaker 1: this is silly. No one's being right. So how do
15:39
Speaker 1: you bet that series? Then do you start betting it
15:40
Speaker 1: like a bet, how many games Warriors in. If it's Milwaukee,
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Speaker 1: I think it's Warriors in five. Um, if it's Toronto,
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Speaker 1: it's Warriors in six. Okay, I think it's Warriors in
15:54
Speaker 1: six against against the Bucks. I mean you can think that.
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Speaker 1: That's fine. Do you want to bet right now? That's
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Speaker 1: what it's going to be. Um, you want, here's what
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Speaker 1: we can do, here's what we can do. We should
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Speaker 1: probably wait till next week once the Eastern Conference finals
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Speaker 1: are over. But I mean, if you want to be premature,
16:10
Speaker 1: that's your thing. I will tell you. Oh, I get
16:12
Speaker 1: what you're doing there. You think you're so funny, like
16:17
Speaker 1: you make you make a joke. You make a joke,
16:21
Speaker 1: and then you look around. You're hoping Antonio noticed. Guess
16:24
Speaker 1: what Antonio, once he was finished mocking me, stop paying
16:27
Speaker 1: attention to the podcast, he started looking at his phone.
16:30
Speaker 1: He's returning emails, he's working on something else. He was
16:33
Speaker 1: not thinking, or what's the sophomore of jokes. Connor Davidson's
16:37
Speaker 1: here and he has the you know, sense of humor
16:40
Speaker 1: of a six year old. So I'm good. Connor always
16:43
Speaker 1: looks like he's smiling. He wasn't listening to you either.
16:45
Speaker 1: Oh he heard it. He heard it. Besides, I don't
16:49
Speaker 1: know what you' talking. What I'm gonna say is when
16:51
Speaker 1: we bet the finals, we can just bet double or
16:55
Speaker 1: nothing on what you owe me from the n C
16:56
Speaker 1: double A tournament. Okay, do you want to do that
16:58
Speaker 1: when we actually know the finals? Fine, but you still
17:00
Speaker 1: haven't paid me. Well, you know I could say the
17:03
Speaker 1: same to you. Is it because you're trying to buy
17:06
Speaker 1: a shirt? Ah? This is a choice, my friend, This
17:10
Speaker 1: is a choice. Is it a choice not to pay
17:11
Speaker 1: me for my bet? Is I need to get female
17:14
Speaker 1: listeners on this show somehow? Dude. The last couple of
17:16
Speaker 1: events we've had his Action Network, the female population has
17:19
Speaker 1: risen exponentially. We've only had two of them, and the
17:23
Speaker 1: first one we had like five or six, and the
17:25
Speaker 1: next one we had about twenty one, was in Las Vegas.
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Speaker 1: All right, So what are we doing here with the West?
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Speaker 1: Are we talking about the West? You just said you
17:33
Speaker 1: want to talk about the West. We're twenty minutes and
17:35
Speaker 1: we've we've covered one series. Well, there's left to say
17:39
Speaker 1: about the West. There's no reason for anybody to bet
17:42
Speaker 1: anything other than Golden State in the finals, right, of
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Speaker 1: course not. I mean without Kadi. We didn't experiment uh
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Speaker 1: on the Action Network, in which we um to sort
17:53
Speaker 1: of to make the debate about Warriors with or without
17:57
Speaker 1: Kadi tangible. We simulated down NBA two K Warriors with
18:02
Speaker 1: and Warriors without and that's real sound logic, video game simulations. Great.
18:07
Speaker 1: And what was the result? Sean Corner, a k a.
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Speaker 1: The odds maker on Twitter, probably the most brilliant person
18:16
Speaker 1: working at the Action Network, created a line for the
18:20
Speaker 1: game after watching a bunch of games, and he set
18:22
Speaker 1: it at seven and a half with the Kady Warriors.
18:25
Speaker 1: The Kady Warriors of the six games we played, won
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Speaker 1: by an average of eighteen and a half points. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I mean that's video game world. Video games don't take
18:35
Speaker 1: into account like the actual change in style of that
18:39
Speaker 1: team without Kevin Durant. Of course they do, no, Chad,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't do that. That's not how fucking
18:46
Speaker 1: video game works. Why are you getting so because seven
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Speaker 1: and a half? Listen, I love Shawn Corner and he's
18:52
Speaker 1: he's great at what he does. But you cannot tell me.
18:56
Speaker 1: I know most of these Warriors games happened past your bedtime,
18:59
Speaker 1: but you have seen some of them. I've watched the
19:01
Speaker 1: first half of all. You can't tell me that this
19:04
Speaker 1: team doesn't look more comfortable, more engaged, and more fluid
19:10
Speaker 1: without Kevin Durant. Listen, the ball does not stop. I
19:14
Speaker 1: don't like it does when he's there. I don't deny
19:16
Speaker 1: any of that. I don't deny a single thing that
19:19
Speaker 1: you just said. All I'm saying is that the video
19:23
Speaker 1: game takes you to account piece of play, takes into
19:26
Speaker 1: account style of play, and in this scenario that k
19:30
Speaker 1: D Warriors were better by seven and a half. So
19:32
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, do you think this team is better
19:34
Speaker 1: with or without Kevin Durant, this team with I will
19:39
Speaker 1: disagree with you. I think that Steph Curry, I've had
19:43
Speaker 1: this conversation with Rob Perez. Steph Curry is has to
19:47
Speaker 1: be the most unselfish superstar in the last He's amazing
19:51
Speaker 1: the fact that he has voluntarily taken a back seat
19:56
Speaker 1: to bring Kevin Durant in. And now that Durant's out,
20:00
Speaker 1: we all kind of sit back and say, oh, ship,
20:02
Speaker 1: Steph is really good. Like, look at what he's doing
20:06
Speaker 1: thirty plus every night, and he was not having a
20:10
Speaker 1: good playoffs before this, like up that first series and
20:13
Speaker 1: a half steph Curry was not playing well. Durant goes down,
20:16
Speaker 1: he steps right up. Draymond Green. Draymond Green, that dude
20:21
Speaker 1: has played out of his mind. Contract here, it's not
20:25
Speaker 1: a contract here. It's not Katie and Clay are free agents.
20:31
Speaker 1: One more when it's Draymond next year. Man, he's banking
20:35
Speaker 1: in right now. Draymond Green has played outstanding. I think
20:38
Speaker 1: this team's style is more suited to not having an
20:41
Speaker 1: ISO player. Yeah, that is clear, That's always been clear.
20:45
Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that a team is going to
20:47
Speaker 1: be better without the greatest player in the world who
20:50
Speaker 1: can do things that are so freakish that nobody can
20:53
Speaker 1: stop him. Sore not. They lost four playoff games with
20:57
Speaker 1: Durant and none without. You're never going to convince me
20:59
Speaker 1: that this is a better team without Durant. I just
21:02
Speaker 1: told you they lost four playoff games with him, none
21:04
Speaker 1: without him. The ball can bounce, the ball can bounce.
21:08
Speaker 1: They're like thirty two and one without Kevin Durant. It's
21:12
Speaker 1: a better team with Kevin Durant. Disagree when Steve Curse
21:15
Speaker 1: says to me, we're better without Kevin Durant. Steve Kurr
21:18
Speaker 1: is not gonna say that when Steph Curry want to
21:20
Speaker 1: resign it, we're better without Kevin Durant. Why would they
21:22
Speaker 1: say that? Why would they say that? If if there's
21:24
Speaker 1: if they know so much better without Kevin Durant, why
21:27
Speaker 1: are they even gonna try to sign? Because Chad, it's
21:29
Speaker 1: an issue of depth. You want as many great players
21:31
Speaker 1: as you can have, so that should getting hard depth
21:34
Speaker 1: without Kevin Durant. No, you do not, because their cap
21:37
Speaker 1: situation the way it's structured, they can't replace Durant with
21:40
Speaker 1: a guy of Durant's value. That's not the way the
21:44
Speaker 1: NBA cap works. They're over. They will still be over
21:49
Speaker 1: if Durant's gone because they're gonna have to give Clay
21:51
Speaker 1: and Max Steel, So they can't replace Durant. Let's say
21:54
Speaker 1: it's thirty million dollars with another thirty million dollars, they
21:57
Speaker 1: don't have it. What do you set the adds at that?
21:59
Speaker 1: Ken and Durrant's days in in Gold State. I think
22:03
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's gone, but I don't get it. Man.
22:06
Speaker 1: It's something that I will never understand. Like if you
22:09
Speaker 1: look at it from forget basketball just as like a
22:12
Speaker 1: life decision. You're living out in the Bay Area. You're
22:17
Speaker 1: making as much money as you can make anywhere else, right,
22:20
Speaker 1: there's no there's no more money you can make somewhere else.
22:23
Speaker 1: It's the same money. You are working with the people
22:26
Speaker 1: that are the absolute best in your field, and you're
22:32
Speaker 1: succeeding at the highest possible level every single year. Why
22:36
Speaker 1: would you give that all up to go and work
22:38
Speaker 1: with lesser coworkers in a lesser environment and have less
22:44
Speaker 1: success for the same money. Well, I don't know. Let
22:46
Speaker 1: me think about this. Once upon a time, I ran
22:51
Speaker 1: h editorial for ESPN Digital out of business. I had
22:57
Speaker 1: a massive office with a best in class company and
23:01
Speaker 1: about five hundred people that worked for me, and was
23:04
Speaker 1: making like so much more walking right into so much
23:09
Speaker 1: more than I'm making now to go work with yah
23:11
Speaker 1: who's like you keep coming in and office space that
23:15
Speaker 1: like you picked. By the way, it's falling apart every day.
23:18
Speaker 1: People make those bad choices all the time. And let
23:20
Speaker 1: me ask you, a year and a half in, would
23:23
Speaker 1: you go back and do it again? Totally? No, you wouldn't,
23:26
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I completely Would you regret that decision
23:29
Speaker 1: every day? I regret. Regret When you get everything, I'll
23:35
Speaker 1: regret it then, but until then, I'm not gonna regret it.
23:38
Speaker 1: But seriously, why would you leave Golden State if you're durnt?
23:40
Speaker 1: Like what why would you do that? Why do you
23:42
Speaker 1: leave ESPN if your moment Well, because ESPN the magazine
23:45
Speaker 1: was going out of business. I was in then. I
23:47
Speaker 1: wasn't even running ESPN the magazine. I was running something
23:50
Speaker 1: bigger who already ran that into the ground. So I
23:52
Speaker 1: wanted to try to save it. I think I made
23:56
Speaker 1: my point, right, You made a bad decision. So Kevin
23:59
Speaker 1: Durance going make one. You make the decision, because sometimes
24:01
Speaker 1: you want to go off and strike on your own.
24:03
Speaker 1: Like he didn't get it done in Oklahoma City, he
24:06
Speaker 1: got it done in Golden State. He seems to be
24:08
Speaker 1: a very prideful person who takes snipes at people on
24:11
Speaker 1: Instagram when they're sort of making comments about this. So like,
24:15
Speaker 1: I think he wants to go out and prove that
24:17
Speaker 1: he could do it himself. But let me ask you something.
24:19
Speaker 1: Would you disagree that he seems soft personally. I'm not
24:22
Speaker 1: talking on the court. I mean like he seems to
24:25
Speaker 1: be bothered by like the noise and what people say
24:28
Speaker 1: about him soft. I think he seems sensitive. Okay, then
24:31
Speaker 1: is New York the place to go? Chad? This is
24:34
Speaker 1: the place to go because I've heard people say he's
24:37
Speaker 1: going to New York. That's what everyone is saying. Let
24:41
Speaker 1: me ask you, is that the place for an athlete
24:43
Speaker 1: like that? Definitely not. No, it's not go back to
24:47
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City? All right? Well, we both agree we're gonna
24:50
Speaker 1: be on Golden State regardless of whether or not Kevin
24:52
Speaker 1: Durant place. Uh. Here's something I want to ask you
24:55
Speaker 1: from your and it's gambling related from your show on
24:59
Speaker 1: Serious Dale Learn how Jr. Was on the show and
25:02
Speaker 1: he talked about how when he was driving some days
25:06
Speaker 1: he would like check in with his you know, pit
25:09
Speaker 1: manager or whatever pit crew on how his teams were
25:12
Speaker 1: doing fantasy team's favorite teams. I have two thoughts on that. One,
25:19
Speaker 1: knowing that, does it make you think differently about how
25:21
Speaker 1: you want to bet on NASCAR drivers? And two do
25:26
Speaker 1: you feel like it's cool that Dale Arnow was so
25:28
Speaker 1: into fantasy that he's checking on his team while he's
25:31
Speaker 1: driving a hundred eight miles an hour. Yeah? I mean
25:33
Speaker 1: it blew my mind to hear the audio because we
25:36
Speaker 1: had the audio on serious Um of him in the
25:39
Speaker 1: car driving around the track and asking his pit crew
25:43
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Redskins game, and they're like,
25:45
Speaker 1: the Lions are up seven nothing. Stafford just threw a touchdown.
25:48
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, man, you know, but who caught it?
25:50
Speaker 1: You know? I don't. I don't know. I've got Golden
25:52
Speaker 1: Tate on my fantasy team. And it's like, it's wild
25:54
Speaker 1: to think that this dude is driving, like you said,
25:57
Speaker 1: a hundred eighty miles an hour and he's just having
26:01
Speaker 1: a normal back and forth conversation like we would driving
26:04
Speaker 1: down the highway. How is it even possible, Like, if
26:06
Speaker 1: you're driving a undred eighty miles, I feel like you
26:09
Speaker 1: have to be full on concentrating the entire time. I
26:13
Speaker 1: guess it just becomes second nature to him. I don't know,
26:16
Speaker 1: but he was. I mean, we had the audio of
26:18
Speaker 1: him talking about it, and it's like, that's what he's
26:20
Speaker 1: asking about on a Sunday. He wants to know how
26:22
Speaker 1: his Redskins are doing. Huge Redskins fan wildly knowledgeable about
26:26
Speaker 1: the Redskins. UM makes me really think about betting NASCAR
26:30
Speaker 1: because it's a little strange. We have a at the
26:34
Speaker 1: Action Network. We have a huge we have a nice
26:37
Speaker 1: partnership going with NASCAR. You should go check out nascar
26:40
Speaker 1: dot com. Go check out our stuff on nascar dot com.
26:42
Speaker 1: They have really cool contests going on, like free to
26:45
Speaker 1: play contests that we're writing about. UM As an organization,
26:48
Speaker 1: they're really smart about betting and really thinking forward about
26:50
Speaker 1: how to engage the fans. And the NASCAR is great
26:52
Speaker 1: about that because they give you a lot of access, right,
26:54
Speaker 1: I mean, NASCAR gives the fans a lot of access.
26:57
Speaker 1: It's a great sport. Like you can you can so
26:59
Speaker 1: on the website, on the Serious channel and listen to
27:02
Speaker 1: the in car audio, which is something you don't get
27:05
Speaker 1: anywhere else. No, that's amazing. It's true. I'd slap you.
27:08
Speaker 1: I didn't say shut up. I'm not rude. The thing
27:11
Speaker 1: about NASCAR, the thing that's betting. That's cool about betting Nascar.
27:15
Speaker 1: It's a little bit like getting betting golf, Like matchup
27:18
Speaker 1: that's cool vaive like betting golf. Why do you keep
27:21
Speaker 1: looking at your watch because I'm getting alerts their Action
27:24
Speaker 1: Network alerts. Chat, I've got a bet on Cincinnati Milwaukee.
27:27
Speaker 1: Oh nice, I'm covering right now. All right. Secondly, since
27:32
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Reskins, I have two more things
27:34
Speaker 1: I want to cover and then we gotta go. Uh
27:37
Speaker 1: we just started, Yeah, but I gotta get back to
27:40
Speaker 1: the office. UM. Number one, have you made any NFL
27:45
Speaker 1: futures bets? I feel like we're gonna have to start
27:47
Speaker 1: thinking about that for a show soon. I have not,
27:49
Speaker 1: I have. It's too soon. No, it's not. It's it's
27:53
Speaker 1: not too soon. To bet on the Colts. I bet
27:55
Speaker 1: a bet eighteen to one. Now they're down to like
27:56
Speaker 1: twelve to one. No, I know you don't you know
27:59
Speaker 1: why Sharp? I don't hate the cults. I think the
28:02
Speaker 1: cults have a really, really nice, nice shot. Um. I'm
28:08
Speaker 1: delivering the Sharp Report as we speak. Network product feature. UM,
28:14
Speaker 1: get it in the app? Did you just want to
28:16
Speaker 1: come back on this podcast to make it an infomercial?
28:20
Speaker 1: I've done less for the Action Network today than you've
28:22
Speaker 1: done from NASCAR on this podcast. Um, I've been on
28:25
Speaker 1: the Action Network radio show for two hours telling people
28:28
Speaker 1: to go download your apps. I was at the office
28:31
Speaker 1: before you were on the radio show. Seriously, doubt that, sweetheart.
28:34
Speaker 1: Doing things that are bigger and better than anything you
28:37
Speaker 1: can do on the radio. All right, well, then I
28:40
Speaker 1: guess doesn't matter if I don't show up tomorrow. Second question,
28:44
Speaker 1: have you made any MLV future bets during the season. Um,
28:49
Speaker 1: I've got some bad future bets in baseball, let's hear
28:52
Speaker 1: about it. I got the Mets to win the NL
28:54
Speaker 1: you do not, and to win the World Series. Wow?
28:59
Speaker 1: Did Luduca convince you? Oh no, he wants nothing. He
29:01
Speaker 1: says the Mets are horrible. He wants no part of that. Um.
29:05
Speaker 1: I talked to Alex Hyacinth in our office for far
29:08
Speaker 1: too long and convinced myself that the Yankees are seventy
29:11
Speaker 1: nine win team and the Mets are going to the
29:13
Speaker 1: World Series. Um so yeah, I've got those Mets futures,
29:17
Speaker 1: holding a Rockies future that one's not looking round. But
29:22
Speaker 1: I do have a Cubs future. When they were picked
29:24
Speaker 1: to finish last in the NNL Central, I was like, this,
29:27
Speaker 1: Cubs are better than this twelve something like that. I
29:33
Speaker 1: bought the Boston Red Sox at twelve to one when
29:37
Speaker 1: they were sort of mired in a little bit of
29:39
Speaker 1: a streak, and now they're coming out of it and
29:42
Speaker 1: that price is going to go much lower, and I'm
29:45
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about it. Where does Dallas Kaickel sign?
29:49
Speaker 1: That is a very good question. I don't know. Oh, look,
29:52
Speaker 1: who the funk it is? This guy giggles, Thanks for coming, producer,
29:57
Speaker 1: Giggles the Chuckler. Well, I guess we're out of time today.
30:03
Speaker 1: I just asked you, where's Dallas Kaiko going? I don't know.
30:06
Speaker 1: Give me a guest, Luduca. Who's he played for? Now? Nobody?
30:12
Speaker 1: He's unsigned? Is a picture? Fucking done? This has been
30:21
Speaker 1: the favorites from the Action network. Black jas just walking off?
30:27
Speaker 1: Just what did you give me? He's just done? Who's
30:30
Speaker 1: he played for? Is he a picture? You run a
30:38
Speaker 1: sports media company? Maybe I did it Jesus to make
30:42
Speaker 1: you angry. I might have your job at three months.
30:48
Speaker 1: You're so on edge today? Are you kidding me? You
30:52
Speaker 1: don't know who fucking Dallas Kike is. I know who
30:55
Speaker 1: Dallas Kiko is. You don't know that he's an unsigned
30:58
Speaker 1: free agent. I know all the is Blackjack, I know
31:01
Speaker 1: everything apparently not. I also know that if like I
31:05
Speaker 1: play as dumb as I possibly can, it's not hard
31:08
Speaker 1: for you. It's good for it's good for the podcast.
31:14
Speaker 1: Dallas Kickle should be a San Diego Padre. I think
31:17
Speaker 1: that's probably the right choice. They could use some pitching
31:19
Speaker 1: big park. He's a flyball pitcher. I mean, I think
31:21
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake Machadow made was signing with the Padres.
31:26
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna knock him three million dollars to live
31:28
Speaker 1: in San Diego for ten years. Not great for your career,
31:32
Speaker 1: great for personally. Do you think that Bryce Harper should
31:35
Speaker 1: have signed somewhere with better weather? Is that your point? Um? No,
31:40
Speaker 1: But it depends on what your goals are. I mean,
31:42
Speaker 1: when Bryce Harper signed with the Tigers, I was shocked.
31:45
Speaker 1: But I hate everyone in this room right now. Um listen.
31:56
Speaker 1: Lifestyle is a factor. Okay, it's a factor. I don't know.
32:03
Speaker 1: If I were Kaiko, i'd try to go to what
32:05
Speaker 1: do you think and what do you think that'll do
32:06
Speaker 1: to the Padres? Adds, I don't think he'll sign in
32:09
Speaker 1: San Diego. I think he should, but I don't you will.
32:11
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a New York Yankee, is
32:13
Speaker 1: what I think. I think Jay HAPs gonna get smacked
32:16
Speaker 1: around one or two more times, and then the Yankees
32:20
Speaker 1: will bring him in on a one year deal after
32:22
Speaker 1: the draft in the first week of June, because then
32:24
Speaker 1: they won't owe the compensatory pick and Dallas Kiko has
32:28
Speaker 1: always pitched very well in Yankee Stadium. Granted it's been
32:31
Speaker 1: as a visitor, but he's always pitched really well there,
32:34
Speaker 1: So I think the Yankees will wind up bringing him.
32:36
Speaker 1: What do you think that will do to the Yankees? Ads? Yankees?
32:40
Speaker 1: I will drop him a little bit um. But I
32:43
Speaker 1: think this Yankees team is not the team we're going
32:45
Speaker 1: to see going into the postseason because when Stanton and
32:48
Speaker 1: Judge and Gregory is get back, they're gonna have some
32:51
Speaker 1: tough decisions to make with some of these guys who
32:52
Speaker 1: are playing really well right now. And I think they
32:55
Speaker 1: wind up trading some of these guys for help in
32:57
Speaker 1: their rotation. So Yankees will drop it, not by a lot,
33:01
Speaker 1: all right. That is something for us to discuss next
33:04
Speaker 1: time on the Action Network podcast. This has been the
33:08
Speaker 1: Action Network podcast. That's not the name of it. No,
33:11
Speaker 1: you're right? So true? Is this? Is there like a
33:16
Speaker 1: fucking hidden camera in here? Is this for real? The
33:21
Speaker 1: Action Network podcast? Do you know what happened? I was
33:26
Speaker 1: checking an email while I started talking, and it said
33:28
Speaker 1: Action Network, there and um, and then I just sort
33:31
Speaker 1: of sentod this has been the favorites from the Action Network.
33:41
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33:43
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