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Steve Price | 6 September · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price. Good evening, Welcome to Friday
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  Speaker 1: Night's well done to Aaron on her sit down interview
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  Speaker 1: with the Trumps. Make sure you watch the replay in
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  Speaker 1: full tonight. Get into a very fascinating stage at US election.
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  Speaker 1: And just like the last debate that ended Joe Biden's
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  Speaker 1: election ambitions, so much hangs on next week's Trump versus
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  Speaker 1: Harris debate. I think that's on Wednesday morning. Coming up
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  Speaker 1: on our program tonight. Anthony Albanezi and the entire federal
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  Speaker 1: cabinet now must realize the trouble they recruited when they
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  Speaker 1: thought it a smart idea to get Foreman new south Well.
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  Speaker 1: I was Liberal MP Matt Keane in to run something
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  Speaker 1: called the Climate Change Authority. More on that in a
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  Speaker 1: sec and also tonight, rebel ex union boss John Setka
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  Speaker 1: of the CFMU sticks his middle finger up at the
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  Speaker 1: Victorian labor government, turning up on state government building sites,
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  Speaker 1: big building sites to address his former groups, and guess what,
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  Speaker 1: he gets cleared by police because no one on those
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  Speaker 1: sites asked him to leave. And Friday Night regular Campbell
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  Speaker 1: Newman gets a chance to respond to TREASURER Jim Chalmers
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  Speaker 1: claim that he Campbell Newman gutted Queensland. But first, Matt
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  Speaker 1: Kean loves a headline. He loved it when he was
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  Speaker 1: a senior minister in the Beveragiclian and Periita state governments
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  Speaker 1: as a pretend Liberal, and now as the chairman of
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Albanese's Climate Change Authority. Keene and his outfit have
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  Speaker 1: released a report looking ahead to twenty fifty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: years from now, and they've made some wild predictions about
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  Speaker 1: what we Australians must do if we are to get
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  Speaker 1: to a spot where we decarbonize Australia. That's the great ambition. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the report must have been authored from the
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  Speaker 1: demented recesses of Adam Vance, the Green leader's mind, But no,
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  Speaker 1: this dossia from the federal government's own authority and could
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  Speaker 1: be something straight out of the how do we Lose
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  Speaker 1: the Next election playbook? By the way, here's Barnaby Joyce
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  Speaker 1: on Sky this morning, losing his mind, ripping this sing apart.
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  Speaker 2: What was it like in style in this Russia? I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: That's all right, We've got the Climate Change is already
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  Speaker 3: to give you a little look at it. They tell
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  Speaker 3: you everything to do. And yeah, Matt Kean, he's the
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  Speaker 3: one who's the prince. Look what's happened in our nation.
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  Speaker 3: Just look at this.
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  Speaker 2: We're telling you what powder is.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to run the place on windmills and solar
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  Speaker 3: panels and you're going to pay the price as the brightest.
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  Speaker 2: Glare of lunacy that actually is.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not enough.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're telling you what you can eat. So what
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  Speaker 2: you can eat?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're coming in all the time on your liberties.
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  Speaker 1: Well it was not just Barnaby farmers, the length and
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  Speaker 1: breakthaugh of Australia were ripping it apart. And I'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to the Farmers Federation later on the program, But in
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  Speaker 1: a nutshell, this is the mad mantra that we have
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  Speaker 1: to stop eating red meat from cows and sheep, stop
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  Speaker 1: driving petrol and diesel cars, and we've got to stop
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  Speaker 1: cooking with gas. Well in Victoria they're already making us
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  Speaker 1: do that. Look that sounds a whole lot of fun,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it. This CCEA manifesto claims that we will have
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  Speaker 1: to ban gas connections in family homes. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: move one hundred percent to electric cars by twenty forty,
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  Speaker 1: despite the fact that EV sales are in free fall
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  Speaker 1: and the resale value of things like secondhand Tesla's is
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  Speaker 1: absolutely zero. But no worry, Matt Keem will sort all
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  Speaker 1: that out. And once he's told you what sort of
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  Speaker 1: car you have to drive, he gets into your kitchen
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  Speaker 1: and he demands you eat chicken and pork and kangaroo,
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  Speaker 1: not bee for lamb. I'm not making this stuff up.
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  Speaker 1: Then he talks about growing five million hectares of forests,
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  Speaker 1: presumably on farming soil not already taken up by wind
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  Speaker 1: and solar farms. So much for growing our own food
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  Speaker 1: to eat with our kangaroo. So radical is this change
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  Speaker 1: to the Aussie lifestyle, No barbecued lamb or Sunday roasts.
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  Speaker 1: So radical is it that even the most radical of
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  Speaker 1: Albanizi's ministers, Chris Bowen, said, well, you know, it's an
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  Speaker 1: information and analysis report. But then he stuck the boot
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  Speaker 1: into nuclear again. Of course, Now if Bowen doesn't embrace
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  Speaker 1: this lunacy, then you know yourself it's very bad. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Fed up with this garbage. We
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  Speaker 1: do not want to be told by politicians what to eat,
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  Speaker 1: what to drive, how to cook dinner. We would much
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  Speaker 1: prefer it if you just tackled inflation, secure our borders
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  Speaker 1: and looked after those struggling to pay their mortgages. Now
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  Speaker 1: I'm tipping Matt Keane and his CCA report will find
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  Speaker 1: a dusty bottom drawer, and very quickly. Now I'm away
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  Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks and I'm out of
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  Speaker 1: the country, and I'm not sad to be away from Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to tell you Melbourne Ism bracing for mass
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  Speaker 1: protest at next week's Land Forces Military Expo. Now, these
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  Speaker 1: could be the biggest and most violent in twenty five years.
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  Speaker 1: I witnessed those ones twenty five years ago, twenty five
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  Speaker 1: thousand people took to the streets to protest the IMF.
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  Speaker 1: It was called the S eleven demonstration. It was violent.
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  Speaker 1: Now I can remember police forces being dragged to the
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  Speaker 1: ground after ball bearings were thrown under their hoofs. Tear
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  Speaker 1: gas was used, and I've got no confidence next week
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  Speaker 1: will be any better. Now. Sensibly, Victoria Police have been
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  Speaker 1: given the power to order masked protesters to identify themselves.
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  Speaker 1: This will be the police force's biggest operation in years.
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  Speaker 1: Officers will be using anti terror provisions and they will
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  Speaker 1: be able to request a person's identification. Joining me to
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  Speaker 1: discuss this and much more is Victorian Shadow Treasure at
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  Speaker 1: brad Rose. Well, Brad, good to see you again.
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  Speaker 4: Likewise, Steve, it's going to get ugly next week.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely little get ugly, Absolutely little get ugly next week.
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  Speaker 5: And frankly, Victoria is the protest capital of Australia is
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  Speaker 5: something that we shouldn't be proud of.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Next week is an opportunity to actually showcase them magnificent
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  Speaker 5: industry that we have here in Victoria, the magnificent things
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  Speaker 5: that our homegrown defense industry does, whether it's the bush
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  Speaker 5: Master in Bendigo, whether it's the vertical tail fins for
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  Speaker 5: the F thirty five's.
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  Speaker 4: Out of Morand in Morabin.
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  Speaker 5: And yet we're going to have a bunch of thugs
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  Speaker 5: making life a hell of a lot difficult and putting
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  Speaker 5: us further down the list of potential future work.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got to feel for the Victoria police and
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  Speaker 1: then they're going to have to be re rostered from
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  Speaker 1: all around the state, dragged in maybe you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be thousands of police officers required, and it
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  Speaker 1: will get ugly. I mean, you are going to have
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  Speaker 1: the propalest Indian protesters, you are going to have the
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  Speaker 1: Social Alliance, you are going to have the Rebellion Green protests.
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  Speaker 5: There are some estimates that are going to be a
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  Speaker 5: thousand police officers there. Other estimates go up to about
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  Speaker 5: twelve hundred or so. But I actually feel for the
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  Speaker 5: Victorian people, Steve, because you know, at a time when
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  Speaker 5: we were in the middle of the crime crisis and
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  Speaker 5: a youth crime crisis in Victoria, what you're actually doing
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  Speaker 5: is pulling a police resource away from the suburbs where
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  Speaker 5: they needed at the minute, into babysit and manage violent protesters.
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  Speaker 5: I completely agree with these laws. My point on these
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  Speaker 5: laws that are being executed during land forces next week
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  Speaker 5: is they should be ordinarily the case.
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  Speaker 1: You're in victim they've been on every protest for the
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  Speaker 1: last six months.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's a darn good question and the only answer
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  Speaker 5: I can give you at this point in time is
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  Speaker 5: that it's after ten years of label that this is
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  Speaker 5: the case.
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  Speaker 1: I should not be able to be in the street
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  Speaker 1: with a mask on, not identified and.
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  Speaker 5: Breaking the law, and Victoria police should have the ability
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  Speaker 5: to move violent protesters on and do so quickly, and
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  Speaker 5: they date at the moment unions.
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  Speaker 1: And I mentioned John Setgar has been to two big build,
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  Speaker 1: big build projects. Police investigated. Nothing to see here because
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  Speaker 1: no one asked him to leave. My question about that
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  Speaker 1: is why didn't someone ask him to leave? Why didn't
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  Speaker 1: the people running the project ask him to leave? Or
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  Speaker 1: were they too frightened to ask him to.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if you ever wanted a greater example to understand
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  Speaker 5: who's actually in charge in Victoria, it's not actually Premierture
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  Speaker 5: Ciner Ellen Steve, it is John Seca. He's lifting his
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  Speaker 5: middle finger, he's thumbing his nose to the guf and frankly,
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  Speaker 5: he's getting away with it. You know, it's not my numbers,
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  Speaker 5: it's the Master Builders Association that say thirty to forty
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  Speaker 5: percent of public sector construction cost is because of union
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  Speaker 5: involvement and union thuggery. Like Victorians are paying the price
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  Speaker 5: because Jacinerellant just can't get a handle jeople.
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  Speaker 1: Running these construction companies to intimidate it still, because I
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  Speaker 1: thought what happened was we put the CFME e u's
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  Speaker 1: construction arm into administration and there was one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven union official sacked. Well why are the people
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  Speaker 1: who are doing these builds still beholden to what the
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  Speaker 1: CFMAU when their sacked boss want them to do.
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  Speaker 5: Well, look maybe they are, but they've got a muscle
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  Speaker 5: up and they've got to get on with it because
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  Speaker 5: Victorians are paying the price for every second that unions
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  Speaker 5: are able to control these building sites. You know, right
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  Speaker 5: around Victoria at the moment, on these big bill sites,
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  Speaker 5: the CFMU flag is flying high. And if Victorians, if
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  Speaker 5: Australians had an example of who's actually in charge on
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  Speaker 5: those sites the Victorian taxpayers are paying for there, it is.
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  Speaker 1: Flags supposed to come down.
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  Speaker 5: Well yeah not, but again they're thinking that it's Look,
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  Speaker 5: we've got very good laws in Victoria to remove colors
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  Speaker 5: from biky gangs. A very sensible proposal would be to
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  Speaker 5: remove c FMEU flags on Victorian government billing sites.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's not a c FMEU project.
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  Speaker 5: Steve Yes, it's Victorian government project, but it's been paid
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  Speaker 5: for by Victorian taxpayers and it's about time their money
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  Speaker 5: was respected.
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  Speaker 1: So speaking of unions, the unions and Anthony Albernezi blue
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  Speaker 1: collar workers have worn labor, they could desert them at
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  Speaker 1: the next election. All because of the government's action against
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  Speaker 1: the Sea of Meu. Now you know Sedga was there.
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  Speaker 1: He appeared at those two building sites. It would appear
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  Speaker 1: that even the Labor government has a problem. Cinder Allen
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  Speaker 1: has been asked about this today. Let's have listened to
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  Speaker 1: what she said.
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  Speaker 7: Me unauthorized attendance on any work site is inappropriate, it's unlawful,
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  Speaker 7: and there is no place on Victorian government big build
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  Speaker 7: work sites for John Seca. We've made that absolutely clear.
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  Speaker 1: Fill you with confidence.
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  Speaker 5: Well, big words from the premiere, but let's see what
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  Speaker 5: the action, the follow up action is. And frankly Steve
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  Speaker 5: that the union movement can have an internal argument amongst themselves,
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  Speaker 5: and they can have an internal argument with the Labor Party,
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  Speaker 5: and that's all well and good, but that's not where
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  Speaker 5: my interest lies.
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  Speaker 4: My interest lies with the fact that Victorian.
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  Speaker 5: Tax payers are being ripped off off for every minute
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  Speaker 5: that you Cinda Allen doesn't put her hollow words into
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  Speaker 5: real action.
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  Speaker 1: So why isn't she? I mean, she's had it handed
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  Speaker 1: to her on a plate now she.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't because for the last ten years she's been on
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  Speaker 5: the receiving end of donations from unions such as the
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  Speaker 5: a CFMU. She knows where her bread is buttered. And
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  Speaker 5: you know, that's just the terrible state of things in Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: It's coming up to a year since Daniel Andrews resigned.
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  Speaker 1: Had written a column about that in the Herald Son,
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  Speaker 1: which is online now and it'll be in the newspaper
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  Speaker 1: to morrow, twenty sixth of September. I went back and
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  Speaker 1: revisited some of the quotes of people like Anthony Albaneze
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  Speaker 1: and just Indra all when Dan Andrews stood down, they
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  Speaker 1: haven't aged well. But when you go back over what
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  Speaker 1: he did in his three election victories, and whenever I
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  Speaker 1: write about this, people say, well, getting elected, someone must
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  Speaker 1: have liked him. But if you go back over East
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  Speaker 1: West Link billion dollars, ripped up Commonwealth games eight hundred
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  Speaker 1: million dollars, and we're now paying for Scotland to hold them.
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  Speaker 1: All of these things, Dan Andrews has walked out with
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  Speaker 1: a defined benefit superannuation scheme worth three hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: tax free a year for life, and the two hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollar package including a driver and travel.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I'm pleased to sitting down, but look,
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't a fan of Daniel Andrews, and many, many
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  Speaker 5: Victorians weren't fans of Daniel Andrews. And yes, we're pleased
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  Speaker 5: to see the back of him, But in the last
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  Speaker 5: twelve months, the question that needs to be asked is
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  Speaker 5: has anything improved in the last twelve months. You know
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  Speaker 5: in Victoria, Steve, we've got the highest unemployment in the nation,
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  Speaker 5: We've got the highest debt in the nation. We've got
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  Speaker 5: the highest taxes in the nation, highest business taxes, highest
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  Speaker 5: property taxes in the nation, highest inflation rate in the nation,
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  Speaker 5: lowest wage growth in the nation. These are all data
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  Speaker 5: points that have come out in the last twelve months
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  Speaker 5: since Daniel Andrews left. And the most sluggish real estate
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  Speaker 5: and that's not on Daniel Andrews, that is on Premier
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  Speaker 5: to Cinderellen. You know, she clearly doesn't have the same
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  Speaker 5: command and control that Daniel Andrews had, and she's stuff
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  Speaker 5: in the place even further. And it's Victorians who are
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  Speaker 5: paying the price for it.
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  Speaker 1: So everyone, when we prosecute this argument about how bad
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  Speaker 1: he was and where the just sender Allen is worse,
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  Speaker 1: people say, well, the opposition mustn't be very good if
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  Speaker 1: they can't get elected when this is such a mess.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's two years from the election and I'm here
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  Speaker 5: speaking to you, and I'm here speaking to your listeners.
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  Speaker 4: I'm out there every day as many sing I'm hearing
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  Speaker 4: the people sick of it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm hearing every states that the states broke, the States
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  Speaker 5: broke that we can't afford like the suburbans.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but every public servant five six hundred dollars for
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  Speaker 1: cost of living payment.
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  Speaker 4: Indeed, Oria bot labor.
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  Speaker 5: But it's Victorians, and the majority of Victorians are not
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  Speaker 5: public servants. And there's Victorians who are being fed in
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  Speaker 5: and punched in the guards and feeling it because they're
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  Speaker 5: the people with the higher bill, highest bills at the grocery,
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  Speaker 5: whether it be school bills, electricity bills, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: People are sick of it.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm just sorry to say, Steve, but it's now
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  Speaker 5: just over two years between now and the next date election,
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  Speaker 5: and chances are they're going to suff up the place more.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, we're going toms now and then and
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  Speaker 5: the rustbucket by the time you get into office.
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  Speaker 4: And that is our challenge. That is our challenge.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, I've got a choice when I wake
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  Speaker 5: up in the morning, Steve, I can fight them on
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  Speaker 5: the beaches or I can go back to sleep.
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  Speaker 4: And we've got fighting us in us and we do
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  Speaker 4: it for the right reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Brad. Thanks for coming in. Always a pleasure, mate, Brad Roosevelt.
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  Speaker 1: They're the shadow treasurer here in Victoria. It's head up
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  Speaker 1: to Queensland. Now, stay with politics where Jim Chalmers has
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  Speaker 1: had to dig At our Friday regular Campbell Newman, now
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  Speaker 1: apparently at a private gathering of the Transport Workers Unions,
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  Speaker 1: warned that Queensland opposition leader David christ Foley, who odds
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  Speaker 1: on will win the next election up there in October,
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  Speaker 1: that he would absolutely this is a direct quote from Charmers,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely gut Queensland like a fish if he gets the
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  Speaker 1: chance to do it, just like Campbell Newman did. This
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  Speaker 1: is what's at stake here in Queensland, Charmers said, before
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  Speaker 1: we go to a federal election. After that seems like
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  Speaker 1: he's running a bit scared. Former Queensland premier and the
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  Speaker 1: person who had his finger pointed at him, Campbell Newman
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  Speaker 1: joins me, nowt that was a bit nasty, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 1: From Treasurer Charmers.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, look it's very nasty. He said nasty stuff before.
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  Speaker 8: But really the most important thing, Steve is the hyperbole.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I think the media finding a waking up
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  Speaker 8: to who Jim Chalmers really is. He's got this nice
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  Speaker 8: boy image, but it wouldn't melt in his mouth. He's
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  Speaker 8: always smiling, but he delivers this sort of nonsense. Something
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  Speaker 8: once I saw a on the Insiders on a Sunday
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  Speaker 8: morning saying, referring to the atrocities of the Newman government,
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  Speaker 8: for the record, if Queensland was gutted, Well, I don't
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  Speaker 8: know what that really means, other than he's just there
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  Speaker 8: to support public sector unionized workers. Because what we achieved
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  Speaker 8: was the best performing hospitals in the nation, the best
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  Speaker 8: surgery waiting times, we're limited an ambulance ramping, we kicked
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  Speaker 8: the bikes out of the state. We've created a thirty
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  Speaker 8: year plan for Queensland, and the crime when we kicked
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  Speaker 8: the bikes out went down fifteen to twenty percent across
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  Speaker 8: all the serious categories of fences against people and property.
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  Speaker 8: So that's the record. We contrast that with the hyperbole,
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  Speaker 8: and really it's showing great desperation. That's really what I
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  Speaker 8: put it down to, because he's lashing out. Now he's
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  Speaker 8: got this fight going on with the Reserve Bank governor.
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  Speaker 8: That's all the distract from the fact that this guy
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  Speaker 8: has badly managed the economy and the finances of the nation.
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  Speaker 8: One other thing I'll just say, because it is a
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  Speaker 8: bit personal, I will debate Jim Charmers anytime he likes
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  Speaker 8: on the track record of my government.
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  Speaker 9: I bet you you won't show up because it's threadbare.
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  Speaker 8: He would not last half an hour with me, and
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  Speaker 8: I make that challenge him this evening. So let's see
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  Speaker 8: if he fronts up if he wants to talk about
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  Speaker 8: my track record. By the way, David Christoph fall he's
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  Speaker 8: made it very clear he's not Campbell Newman. And while
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  Speaker 8: I'm unclear about what he will do on a arrange
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  Speaker 8: thing of these issues, he has said to the Queensland
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  Speaker 8: Media Club that he won't be cutting the public service,
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  Speaker 8: so I don't know where.
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  Speaker 1: Think he's going. David Christopher was going.
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  Speaker 9: Saying, well, as you know, I've been a bit of
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  Speaker 9: a critic.
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  Speaker 8: I have criticized them for not articulating clearly their policies,
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: but over the last two or three weeks, he has
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: made some important policy announcements. They've also run some ads.
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: I think he's looking pretty good. So at this stage,
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: short of some sort of disaster, I think he will
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: become the next premiere.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: He. As you know, image is pretty important in election campaigns,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and he looks energized. He looks young, fit and energized.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: And I know that doesn't mean he can run the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: state properly, but compared to Premier Miles, he looks like
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: he's a bloke ready to.
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: Do it will He does look like that. And he
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: was a minister in my government, and he was a
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: good minister, and he achieved some really important things. And
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: one I point out is that he was in charge
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: of disaster recovery after the terrible flood event that we
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: had in Bunderberg back in twenty third e So I've
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: had a lot of time for him. That's why I've
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: sort of perturbed about this small target strategy because I
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: just don't agree with it fundamentally. But I saw a
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: guy when he was in office as a minister in
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: my government, with the goods, the ability to deliver, and
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: that energy you've just referred to, and he is aggressive,
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: and I mean that in a nice way. You've got
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: to have a level of aggression in politics, and he
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: wants to actually get stuff done and I'm pretty sure
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: of that. But again I'm not clear about what he
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: is going to do because on many occasions he hasn't
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: told Queenslanders and that does bother me.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Just back on Kembell, back on Jim Chalmers briefly. I
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: mean he's picked a fight with the Reserve Bank. And
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: now I don't know who's advising him politically to suggest
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that's a good idea. It might play I guess with
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: people who don't follow those things as closely as others.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: But I mean the Reserve Bank has made the point.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: The Governor Shell Bullock has made the point quite clearly
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: that when you look at the GDP and one of
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: the reasons why inflation is not coming down, it's because
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of the amount of dough that Charmers is dishing out
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in benefits to people to help with their energy builds
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and government infrastructure spending by state government. So on the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: one hand, she's trying to slow the car down. On
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the other hand, Jim Charmers and Treasury are trying to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: speed it up. The two things can't work together, can they.
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: Well they can't.
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: And I think one of the coalition front bench forget
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: who was but in the last few days, had the
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: analogy about when you do that to a machine or
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: a motor vehicle, you will blow the thing up.
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: And that's what Jim Charmers is doing.
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: It is absolutely without dispute that government spending has increased.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: It's beyond dispute that is a share of GDP, the
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: tax take has gone up to historically high levels. It's
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: beyond dispute that Australian's standard living is down by about
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: ten percent, and how soul savings gone to almost nothing.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: That's his doing. And he might want to fool people
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: by this sort of game of criticizing the RBA and
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: also handing out cash on the one hand, but I
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: think ultimately will come home to roost. People sort of
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: have this distrust of politicians and whilst public servants aren't
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: perhaps in the highest regard, they are held in much
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: higher regard. I can tear that right now than politicians.
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: So when someone in the post of the Governor of
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: the Reserve Bank is saying it's a problem, then well
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: it is. And I think Ultimately he loses that sort
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: of political fight.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Kevi.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Well, we talked about this hydro project in Queensland before
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: news out that fifty properties bought for that pumped hydro
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: project could be sold back to residents if the plan
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is scrapped. The government owned entity is not saying at
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: what cost? Now this is because coming less of a reality,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: this thing isn't it?
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: Well, it was always a fantasy, I'm afraid. And the
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: reason I've always said that I've set it to you
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: and your viewers before is that back in the two thousands,
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: when we had a drought in southeast queens and we
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: were running out of water, we were down to fifteen
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: percent of their dams and the Travison Dam, and this
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: is a repeat of the Traveston debarcle. The Travesten Dam
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: was stopped on environmental grounds by Peter Garrett and the
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: then Rudd government because of the lungfish. Now this valley,
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: the Pioneer River valley west of Mackay heading up to
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: the Angula sort of high range, is a pristine, beautiful valley,
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: cane farming and fantastic forest and it's a platypus habitat.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: Now there was no way, like just no way with
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: our current environmental laws that this would ultimately have got up,
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: it would have been stopped.
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, you just have to look.
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: Around the nation these any environmentally significant animal or plant
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: will be enough to stop projects. Now I'm not saying
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: that's right. I'm just talking about the practicalities the way
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: the law stands in Australia today. The environment comes first,
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: the needs of our society come second, and needs of
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: jobs and economic growth come second. But that's what's going
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: to happen here. It won't get up on environmental grounds.
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: It just won't.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: And I think they're going to end up with Traviston
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: having to sell a whole lot of property back to
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: some very lucky people because I'm sure they won't be
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: paying the same amount of money to get it back
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: that the government paid them to take it in the
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: first place.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Well, this is going to be part of the problem,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: isn't it. With our blind rush to renewables. I mean,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the amount of wind turbines required, the amount of solar
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: panels required. We saw that massive project that's been ticked
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: off outside of Darwin, eight hundred kilometers southwest of Darwin.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: This is going to be an issue going forward that
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the federal government, or the state
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: governments or local councils have even really thought enough about.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to have pro You've already got
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: regional farmers saying I don't want transmission lines through a property.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You can nick off. I don't want to. I don't
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: care what you pay me this. I keep talking about this,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: but no one seems to actually say, I'll hang on
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a minute. If we need all of this renewable energy,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: we've got to have places to put it. They're going
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: to have huge complaints from people, aren't they.
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: This Look, this is the industrialization of the Australian natural landscape,
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: whether it be the impact on great farming land, grazing country,
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: et cetera, or the natural areas, forested areas the top
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: of the Great Dividing Range where we're blasting those mountaintops,
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: building these massive towers, access roads and actually destroying the
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: habitat of protective species. I think it's going to come
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: to a head mate, because it just be stopped. My
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: Libertarian Party colleagues who are running for the Senate, you
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: will not lock later pointing this out. They've been out
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: there as I have saying, the alternative really has to
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: be nuclear. That's how if you believe in climate change,
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: and I am a skeptic, but if you do want
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: to go to clean power, lower missions, then ultimately we've
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: got to go to nuclear.
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: And rather than.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Destroy natural areas and farmland in this wholestyle way, we
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: actually concentrate using the existing footprints of our coal fired
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: power stations. Go from coal to nuclear, as Peter Dutton's
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: been saying, and that is the way to go, and
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: it is more environmentally responsible. I think as people start
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: to learn about what's going on, really they'll realize that
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: they've been sold to pop on this one.
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: It is incredibly destructive.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I think that's right. Have a great weekend, Campbell. I'll
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: talk to you in a couple of Friday's time. Thank you,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Campbell Newman. They're coming up after the break still ahead
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the one hundred and twenty year old Ossie business closing
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: its doors, another victim to the tough economic climate created
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: by this government. And next the Climate Agency coming after
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a stake the ludicrous advice being given to government to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: help the country reach net zero spring a climate change.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to the President of the National Farmers Federation.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: After this, welcome back to Price with you Denika de
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Giorgio coming up at the top of the hour. Now,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I mentioned the Climate Change Authority at the top of
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the program. This is the agency that is advising the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi on climate change. Now they are
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: suggesting that Australians need to cut back on eating red
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: meat in a bid to reduce the nation's greenhouse gas emissions. Now,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the Authorities review into ways to reach net zero by
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: twenty forty or twenty fifty was released yesterday, including a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: proposed pathway to decarbonize agriculture by steering consumers away. I'm laughing.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't be from higher emission products like
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: beef and lamb towards lower emission intensity products like chicken,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: pork and kangaroo. Now, understandably, the National Farmers Federation has
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: disagreed with this proposal. I've heard the President David Jahiki
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: speaking today, joins me. Now, this stuff, David is complete
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and utter madness, isn't it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, good afternoon, Steve. Yeah. Absolutely.
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: If we want to talk about agriculture and it's part
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: to play in carbon reduction, we've got to look back
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: and see how much advancement we've made already and the
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: fact that we are up for the challenge. But what
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: we do need is government to come up and help
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: us with the technologies to not only grow better pastures,
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: have better genetics in our animals, but then also understand
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: that some of the proposals being presented actually my counterproductive.
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: When we have red meat is one of the.
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: Most densest, nutritious, nutritional sources of protein that consumers can choose.
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: By discounting that versus the other options that we've got
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: to not only progress agriculture, make sure that we grow
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: animals that are adaptable to the climate, and when we
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: see alternatives such as the proposal of farming kangaroos, to
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: get real and have a realistic discussion around what is
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: actually achievable, how are we actually to be stewards of
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: the land to be able to manage such different alternatives.
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: But then also understand that consumers have a taste, and
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: we want to make sure that the consumers understand when
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: they buy our Australian products, they're not They're not just
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: buying the articles, They're buying a whole value chain that
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: goes behind that from the quality of the article itself,
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: but then also the stewardship the environmental regulations, the amount
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: of sustainability that go behind, that goes behind that that
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: isn't being told in this report.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Look, farmers are the greatest environmentalists we have in the country.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I've said that to you before and I firmly believe that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk kangaroos for a moment. What are
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: they this report? Is it suggesting we farm kangaroos or
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: we're going to live off culling kangaroos and eating the meat.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: These things are wild animals. They have worms. I mean
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you can't you can't corral them for a start. I mean,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's impractical beyond belief, isn't it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: Well I've never tried to load a truckload of kangaroos before,
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: but what I could say is it'ld be fairly interested.
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: But the reality is, once again, a lot.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: Of our Australian landscape is suited to sheep and cattle
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: and we do it very well. In fact, we've lifted
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: the environmental standards across the board and we're world leaders
• 28:52
  Speaker 10: in how we produce our animals and look after our animals,
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: and that's the part that doesn't get recognized in this conversation,
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: that we made massive changes and we are some of
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: the best at what we do. So what we want
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: to do is have a conversation around how can government
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: actually support the current industry which is already there, which
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: is already kicking massive goals, and let's start talking about
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: different technologies that we can use so that we can
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: grow these animals quicker, so that they don't have as
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: much environmental or carbon footprint, if that's what we're trying
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: to achieve, To talk about different types of pastures that
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: we should be promoting and how the government can incentivize
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: those schemes. But even to the fact that we need
• 29:34
  Speaker 10: to understand the Australia as agriculture goes is looked at
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: as being an offsetting mechanism for other industries, which will
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: absolutely devastate the production capacity of our nation and jeopardize
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: the sustainability of the different systems that we have already
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: in place. What we need is government to understand it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: They should support agriculture in its current state, get behind
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: us and actually talk about the future, not trying to
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: change just into something that isn't applicable.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: David, I find it ironic that in a week where
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: we've got some figures out of abaas about the value
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of the agriculture sector, it's spected to grow this season
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: by three point seven billion dollars. I mean, farmers are
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: in rich good farming is in rich good health at
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the moment, particularly cropping and also also the yields you're
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: getting off beef and sheep. You know, if we have
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: climate change, which we all accept is a reality, it
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: seems to be doing a pretty good job of making
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Australian farming pretty good at the moment.
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: Well, there's one thing I can tell you, Steve.
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: For everywhere that's doing well in Australia, there's always somewhere
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: else that's doing it a little bit tough. And we
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: are seeing that in the southern part, the southeastern parts
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: of Australia with some pasture growth that's a little bit
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: behind where it should be. That's causing farmers a bit
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: of distress around having to feed and potentially cut water
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: to their livestock in the near future. But there are
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: a lot of places where Australia agriculture has to be
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: recognized for the adaptation for the scientific advancements that we've
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: made and the technology that we've embraced, so that we
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: are for the challenge of this changing climate, that we
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: can produce more with less continually and also have it
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: so that the environmental standard is our sustainability financial is
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: actually increasing so that when a consumer once again buys
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: an article, we're trying to reinforce that when you buy Australian,
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: you're buying a whole value chain, and you may not
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: see that value chain, but the truth is in Australia,
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: we've got a high safety standard so you won't get
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: sick bading our products. We've got absolutely high environmental standards,
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: so when you are buying that product, you can be
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: assured that austrained farmers are adherent to absolutely massive amount
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: of regulation around how we run our farms and the
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: chemistry that we use is extremely scrutinized so that we
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: are making sure that we are producing extremely safe food.
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: So our story is a simple one. It is that
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: we are doing a great job. Through report recognizes that
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: there's some invitations around how much strain farmers can participate
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: in a carbon market, and we're fine with that because
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: we will push as far as we can go, but
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: we're not going to lose production capacity or the ability
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: for us to build our regional areas just because an
• 32:17
  Speaker 10: idealistic opinions put forward. We just want government to come
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: and talk to austrain farmers, come and talk to us,
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: talk to us how we can improve together, but understand
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: that some things aren't achievable and net zero and agriculture
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: by twenty fifty even by this report is an impossibility.
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: And we don't want to lose production capacity. We don't
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: want to see land taken out of production to grow
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: trees that is counterproductive to us producing food for this
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: nation and also the people we explort to.
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: But to also.
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: Recognize the absolute massive job that austrained farmers have done
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: and reward us by supporting us through more research, more development,
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: more technologies so we can be the cutting edge of
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: the frontier where our reculture can go.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: David, I love your passion. I appreciate you joining us.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I should point out to everyone there'll be a major
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: rally of farmers in Canberra coming up on Tuesday. David
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: will be there and let's hope that the federal government
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: goes and has a chat to him. David Johincki, thanks
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: for joining us as usual. Coming up, the coffee chain
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: going cashless, the customer backlashes, some stores do away with
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: paper notes. Plus mate Mark Knight joins us for his
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: take on the week in cartoons. Welcome back to Price
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: with you. The panel coming up shortly. But before all
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of that, let's look back at the stories that made
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: headlines with our wonderful cartoonist regular Mark Knight, who joins
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: us on a Friday night. We're going to start a
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: little bit differently this We're going to get to your
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: brilliant cartooning this week. There's so much around you must
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: be loving the news at the moment. It's a feast.
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: There's too many topics, and I actually have to say
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: that the hardest thing is choosing what actually draw, leave
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: out what cockup to draw?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Well, you very generously draw a cartoon on my column
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: in the Saturday heralds Saturday, Yes, which I love. This
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: week I've written about Daniel Andrews. On the twenty sixth
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: of September. This year it will be one year since
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: he resigned, and of course he ripped up a lot
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of money on the way out. He didn't build a
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: freeway that cost us a billion dollars, but the Commonwealth
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Games eight hundred million and the Saturday Sunday heralds un
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: broke story last week that the Scottish Commonwealth Games are
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: going to be paid for by Victorian taxpayers out of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the money Dan Andrews gave them. Now, what have you
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: drawn here?
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: Well, it's great that you grouped all of Dan's a
• 34:44
  Speaker 11: misdemeanors together. And when I read that we will be
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: paying for the twenty twenty six Glasgow Games, I thought, you.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Only get one Daniel Andrews in your life. That's what
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: they must be thinking. There he is on the wall
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and they have had theirs. There is a Scottish folk
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: saying to his mate.
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: Yes, you only get you only get one Daniel Andrews
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: in your life. And the other guy's going ay, and
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: we've had ours.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: And underneath is a bag of money.
• 35:09
  Speaker 11: There's a huge bag of Victorian that taxpayers cash. I think,
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: what was it three hundred and eighty million price?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Yet you miss miss Dan Andrews. I mean you portrayed
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: him so beautifully during COVID.
• 35:19
  Speaker 11: Even after his political passing, he's still the gift, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 11: he has that legacy which we'll live on.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I love him. I do miss him though.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Let's get to politics of the week. Jim Charmers have
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a bit of a fight with the RBA, Yes, but
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: he also released the gross domestic product figures this week.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: That's pretty dry for a cartoonist. What did you draw
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: it is?
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: Economics is the dismal science. I think they call it, Stephen,
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: They're a pretty dismal fight.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Love this one.
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: Well, it said that we've had the weakest growth since
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: ninety ninety one, and you and I would remember nineteen
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: ninety one. I had motion, we had to have That's right.
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: It's seventeen percent interest rates great time.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: So there there's Jim and his reflection is Paul Keating.
• 36:04
  Speaker 11: Well there is I see the similarity. High interest rates
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: are an economy in recession, tall blokes who were skinny,
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: I think, And I think Jim Chalmers models himself a
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: bit on PJ.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Keating.
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: I think he sees, you know, he likes sort of
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: Keating's hutzpa. But I've yes reflected him fantastic, Bill Shorten,
• 36:25
  Speaker 11: you would have drawn him a lot over the years.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: He shock announcement when he came out yesterday.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: It's a huge lot.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: And someone said on my phone, Bill Shorton's quit. I said, no,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: so he's decided to go off and triple his salary
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and work in the universe, into academia.
• 36:42
  Speaker 11: I love the way they just walk in into these jobs.
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: And I think he'll still get his pension.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Is that right? He gets? And I think he's on
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: one point one million as a vice chancellor of Canberra.
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: Well he's taken that job. But in this cartoon, I
• 36:54
  Speaker 11: thought there's another job.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Bill, big yeah, big big brain. Apparently he tell you
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 37:04
  Speaker 11: Well, I just figured that there is a better job going,
• 37:06
  Speaker 11: which I believe he should have took if he's always
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: wanted to lead the country. And the job that's going
• 37:11
  Speaker 11: is basically running the country, which is the secretary of
• 37:14
  Speaker 11: the c f EU.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Now that is vacant at the moment.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: I was just thinking Bill should have gone there.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: That would have begin to you. John Pursuto this week
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: he has been John Persuito has been called labor light,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: yes by Peter Dutton. Now I don't think John p
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Suto would like that much.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: But no, I jumped on that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I jumped on that. I love your
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Dutton again, he's your best.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Bring him to draw.
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: I love drawing Peter Dutton, and if he becomes Prime minister.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I'll be happy.
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: But nobody who likes light beer serious, no one, No,
• 37:48
  Speaker 11: there is poor old Peter Dutton sampling the Victorian John.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Berzuto light and well that's what he thinks of it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's what we all think of light beer. Now,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you've also had a crack at win farms this week.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: My favorite topic.
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: Oh, we had massive winds down here and the funny thing.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Blowing with they collect with Well that's the thing.
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: When the wind blows too much, if it's over one
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: hundred and twenty kilometers an hour. Over one hundred, actually
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: the windmills have to shut down, and we.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, you've got to turn them off. Look at those.
• 38:22
  Speaker 11: I use my cartoon this license here price He just
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: to sort of exaggerate to show that in huge winds.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: We're not going to generate any huge winds.
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: During the week, I thought we'd been making, you know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: heywild that the wind blew.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: But here you go, AFL finals have just started. Yes,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: how far out do you start draw the poster drawing
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: your premiership poster? Well, you know, it's crazy. We're eighteen
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: and I discounted Geelong. I thought they were just making
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: up the numbers. Well that just went out the window
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: last night.
• 38:57
  Speaker 11: So Geelong we're back in most sights. I can't you know,
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: Sydney GWS, who can pick that tonight?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Hawthorne and the Dogs. I don't know who's going to win.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: All those teams still in a bar. GWS have won
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: premierships in the not.
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: Too distant I've drawn most of them before, and I.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Have DRAWNS when they won three years ago.
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: Yes, twenty sixteen they won, I drew them Swany's twenty twelve.
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: I've drawn them Cats numerous times.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I'd love to.
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: Draw somebody new like GWS, but nobody in Victoria wants to.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: But WS too. It Mark night, Thank you very much,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and thank you for your efforts on the page this week.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you in a couple of weeks. Time
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: still to come. Would you give up your steak for
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the environment? I'll put that under my panel. Plus the
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: sad case of a century old dairy on King Island
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: shutting the doors. That's up next. Welcome back to Prize
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: with you on this Friday night. Let's bring in the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Friday Night panel Small business Women Australia's are and a
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Rose joins us every Friday Night and former Liberal MP
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Gary Hargrave, welcome to you both. I grew up going
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to the deli at my local market and buying King
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Island brie, Amanda. This business has been fantastic for Australia.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: It's a small population down on King Island. It's Suputo,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: a global dairy giant. It's going to shut it down.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Is this a signal on how much stress businesses are
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: under in this country of a company like that that
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: was so popular for so long can't survive.
• 40:37
  Speaker 12: Yes, it is, and it's part of Australian culture.
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: And they were lovely people.
• 40:41
  Speaker 12: I remember I went cattle driving on horseback and one
• 40:45
  Speaker 12: of the people in the group was actually from King
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: Island Dairy and they were so kind and pleasant and
• 40:50
  Speaker 12: they sent me a basket afterwards, which was even better,
• 40:53
  Speaker 12: so I liked them even more. But the thing was
• 40:55
  Speaker 12: is that this is part of Australian culture. And what
• 40:58
  Speaker 12: is disappointing to me is that there are calls for
• 41:02
  Speaker 12: the government to bail out Star City, but are not
• 41:05
  Speaker 12: calls for the government to bail out King Island Dairy,
• 41:08
  Speaker 12: which is a family business, and if it was kept alive,
• 41:13
  Speaker 12: then another family could take it up.
• 41:15
  Speaker 13: They just need the support in doing that.
• 41:16
  Speaker 12: I feel like society and in particular government, they just
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: don't value longevity. They don't value family business. They don't
• 41:24
  Speaker 12: value all the things that this business represents.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Gary Mander's right. I mean, you know, King Island Cheddar
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: is the other great cheese that they made. But I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: mean the reason that that product was so good, Gary,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've eaten plenty of it over your time.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: It was made out of milk from pastures that are
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: completely pristine. That island's out in the middle of bats straight.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: You could not get a cleaner product than that if
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you tried. It's really sad.
• 41:52
  Speaker 14: It's a double Brie and triple Brie and all sorts
• 41:54
  Speaker 14: of other great cheeses, and it was always the go
• 41:57
  Speaker 14: to brand for this household. I've got to say to you,
• 41:59
  Speaker 14: but it's no longer a family business. It's owned by Saputo,
• 42:03
  Speaker 14: this Canadian company. I say Suputo, I say Caputo because
• 42:07
  Speaker 14: the whole thing is Caput. They've looked at the cost
• 42:10
  Speaker 14: of electricity to make anything and everything and they just
• 42:14
  Speaker 14: decided the bottom line isn't isn't there.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: They don't care about.
• 42:16
  Speaker 14: The tradition, and so this mob became part of the
• 42:20
  Speaker 14: Australian business landscape. They've brought a few different businesses as
• 42:23
  Speaker 14: I understand it, but give it done. They just don't
• 42:26
  Speaker 14: give it done. And the problem here is that we're
• 42:28
  Speaker 14: going to lose the choice. I mean, you know if
• 42:31
  Speaker 14: it remember the Greens some years ago we were laughing
• 42:33
  Speaker 14: at it said we don't need farmers because we've got
• 42:35
  Speaker 14: wool worse than coals.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: This is the.
• 42:37
  Speaker 14: Reality green energy dream of renewables, which is all taxpayer
• 42:43
  Speaker 14: and subsidized through the wazoo. That's killed this business off.
• 42:47
  Speaker 14: And Saputo do not care. They just don't care. And frankly,
• 42:51
  Speaker 14: if they don't care, sell it to somebody who does.
• 42:54
  Speaker 14: Because I think we all want to buy this brand.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: We really don't.
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: Well, but no one can afford it. In this cost
• 43:01
  Speaker 12: of living crisis, people actually can't afford it and investments,
• 43:04
  Speaker 12: like you just said, unless there's a lot of profits.
• 43:07
  Speaker 13: People just don't care about it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 12: But all the employees that have been there for so
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: long are now going to lose their jobs.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: It's awful, just awful. Thank You's some sort of white
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: night comes along and actually buys it, someone like Gena
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Reinhart or someone like that, because you know Gena Reinhart,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: for example, has brought up a lot of those Australian
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: businesses that are so iconic. Maybe she might want to
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: get into a gara with a bit of luck. Speaking
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: about or Dick Smith, yeah, no, I think Dix had
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: his time with food. I don't think you'll be back
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: into it. Speaking of food, I spoke to the Farmers Federation,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: what about this Climate Change Authority report? Gary, Let's say, look,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: we've got to eat less red meat to help reduce
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: greenhouse gases to get to zero emissions. And what we've
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: got to do is start to eat hawk, chicken and kangaroo.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Gary, but I can't stand kangaroo.
• 44:00
  Speaker 14: First time I ever ate EMU was actually in the
• 44:01
  Speaker 14: Australian High Commission in Ottawa, so I.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Found that really all they thought it was an Australian dish.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I'm an appreciate.
• 44:09
  Speaker 14: I can't give the place a plug because it's so
• 44:12
  Speaker 14: well known and regardle. But when you come to Brisbane
• 44:14
  Speaker 14: next Steve I'll take you to Brisbane's worst vegetarian restaurant,
• 44:18
  Speaker 14: which is the Norman Hotel. It sells the greatest steaks.
• 44:21
  Speaker 14: A lot of them are Gina Reinhardt grown beef as
• 44:23
  Speaker 14: well on the plate there. So you know there are
• 44:26
  Speaker 14: people who actually want to promote the goodness that comes
• 44:29
  Speaker 14: out of red meat. I mean Hens Sam Neil, he
• 44:32
  Speaker 14: used to talk about us.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Eating more red meat, and now.
• 44:35
  Speaker 14: We've got the greens again saying, you know, let's eat
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: bugs instead.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: You have to be joking.
• 44:40
  Speaker 14: There is nothing more healthy in moderation for people to
• 44:44
  Speaker 14: have good red meat. It builds the protein base our
• 44:47
  Speaker 14: body needs, It builds our muscles, heavens, I'm starting to
• 44:50
  Speaker 14: sound like Sam Neil. Just go and eat red meat
• 44:53
  Speaker 14: and tell these people that, well, sod off.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's the polite version, absolutely it. I mean,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: there's nothing like a good stake, Amanda. Cashless Society, it's
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: coming to add us at a great rate. Gloria Jeans,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the coffee operation, which apparently has faced some sort of
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: backlash because their stores, some of them, are going to
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: go cashless from next week. It's a trial only affects
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: stores operated by the corporate entity, not the franchises. But I,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I go and buy a coffee every morning
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: costs me, you know, five dollars, five dollars ninety. I
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: always tap. It sort of feels weird. You should probably
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: give them cash, but cash is really not very popular
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: among small businesses anywhere any anymore either, because it's hard
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to deal with.
• 45:38
  Speaker 12: Well, the thing is, it's like balling the frog. They've
• 45:41
  Speaker 12: kind of forced us to avoid cash. They've said, we'll
• 45:44
  Speaker 12: make it easier for you that tap and go, but
• 45:46
  Speaker 12: don't forget all the fees the banks are collecting every
• 45:50
  Speaker 12: single time you tap, so they're making money off the
• 45:54
  Speaker 12: cushless society move. We're losing it a small business owner.
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: So eventually, when the franchise are forced to do it,
• 46:02
  Speaker 12: people won't buy from them. They might say, I'm going
• 46:04
  Speaker 12: to boycott Glory Jeans, and then a small business owner
• 46:07
  Speaker 12: is suffering.
• 46:08
  Speaker 13: But guess who.
• 46:08
  Speaker 12: Makes money every single time we tap the banks, We're
• 46:12
  Speaker 12: not getting it the small business.
• 46:13
  Speaker 13: The franchise is and getting it.
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: And that is what people need to remember that every
• 46:17
  Speaker 12: single time you avoid cash, you're actually hurting the small
• 46:21
  Speaker 12: business and giving the big conglomerates and the banks more money.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: You pay cash for anything.
• 46:28
  Speaker 13: Yes, cash is king.
• 46:30
  Speaker 12: I come from a trading family, you know, it's always
• 46:33
  Speaker 12: you've got to have cash on hand. You pay cash
• 46:35
  Speaker 12: as much as possible. And also, if you talk about
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: cash to society, think of all the tradees that live
• 46:40
  Speaker 12: off cash and pay and earn money with cash and
• 46:43
  Speaker 12: things like that. That's going to disappear. And people don't
• 46:46
  Speaker 12: realize that until it happens, and then they can't pay trading,
• 46:49
  Speaker 12: or they stop working, or they've changed how they work.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Gary, the only time I pay cash is the fortnightly
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: cash that I give to the cleaner. It comes to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: clean the house. So I'm not sure that anyone's using
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: cash normally. Do you use cash? Not really?
• 47:05
  Speaker 14: And so I'm a bit like you, Steve. The tap
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: and go has kind of got me in. I use
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: even this sort of thing on the iPhone. But look,
• 47:12
  Speaker 14: I think that Amanda's Amandarres' point is absolutely correct. But
• 47:16
  Speaker 14: the point here is we've got a marketplace, a lot
• 47:18
  Speaker 14: of coffee makers, a lot of coffee vendors, and you know,
• 47:21
  Speaker 14: Gloria Jeans wants to try it. Then maybe the verdict
• 47:25
  Speaker 14: will come in and they realize it's a mistake and
• 47:27
  Speaker 14: unless we actually say to them, hey, you got this wrong.
• 47:31
  Speaker 14: Get if this shows operations, but go and support your
• 47:34
  Speaker 14: local small business coffee maker. That's the point. You know,
• 47:38
  Speaker 14: there's a variety of people out there. Some of them
• 47:41
  Speaker 14: make fantastic coffee. Some of them maybe need another job,
• 47:44
  Speaker 14: but most of them are really good and they work
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: really hard at it. And five bucks ninety, I think
• 47:49
  Speaker 14: about five point forty we crash it, Risbon. And after
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: five bucks ninety, don't talk like that, Steve, people will
• 47:54
  Speaker 14: put the prices up.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Evans, well, I think they are going up, Amanda. I
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: noticed raygun Rachel Gunn gave an interview on The Project,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: my Monday night TV program on The Project this week.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: He's what she had to say, have Lo, I.
• 48:10
  Speaker 12: Am very sorry for, you know, the backlash that the
• 48:13
  Speaker 12: community has experienced, but I can't control how people react.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Did you genuinely think you are the best female breaker
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: in Australia. Well, I think my record speaks to that, Amanda,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Just briefly, I feel sorry for her. I mean, I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: think the pylon was too harsh.
• 48:35
  Speaker 12: Oh look it was, but the reality is she wasn't
• 48:37
  Speaker 12: the best and they made it very difficult for others
• 48:40
  Speaker 12: to actually be included, and they you know, so therefore
• 48:43
  Speaker 12: they didn't have the best representing Australia. But the reality is,
• 48:47
  Speaker 12: she knew she was going to lose, and she admitted
• 48:48
  Speaker 12: that she knew she was going to do a bad job.
• 48:50
  Speaker 12: But so therefore you're going to get people saying you're
• 48:54
  Speaker 12: kind of ruining the reputation of an entire industry that
• 48:57
  Speaker 12: a lot of our youth rely on for activities outside
• 49:01
  Speaker 12: of school.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I know, but I do feel sorry for a Gary Amanda,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us tonight. We'll talk
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: to you shortly. Don't forget, folks, ten o'clock tonight. The
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: full interview that we had with the Trump's, the Trump Family,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: we airon MOLIN. That'll be aired at ten o'clock tonight.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Make sure you watch the whole thing. It was a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: great get. Denika is up next.