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9-17-26 Hour 3 - Jeff Legwold/Concerned about offense not defense/A single game can't change your mind! · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: Laywald of ESPN.com joins us every single Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, Leggy.
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  Speaker 4: Morning, fellas.
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  Speaker 2: Your headphones look like they're strangling your throat.
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  Speaker 3: Just to let you know.
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  Speaker 4: I have a very big neck.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: He looks like he's ready.
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  Speaker 4: Leggy.
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  Speaker 2: Leggy.
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  Speaker 4: Bring it on.
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  Speaker 3: I got to ask you something. So what was the
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  Speaker 3: worst aspect of the game? Was it just the fundamental
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  Speaker 3: lack of wrapping up in tackling? Or was it the...
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  Speaker 3: four three and outs in the first six drives of
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's, it's hard to pick a winner there or the,
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  Speaker 5: or the loser as it were. I, you know, I,
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  Speaker 5: I think the thing that would sort of red flags
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  Speaker 5: me the most is they just spent an entire off
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  Speaker 5: season trying to deal with three and outs. I think
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  Speaker 5: they were 29th in the league last year. I think
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  Speaker 5: they were 27th the year before. So this isn't a
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  Speaker 5: new issue for them. And just, I thought that the
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  Speaker 5: first play from scrimmage, he took a really bad sack immediately.
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  Speaker 5: And that was just like the tone of the offense
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  Speaker 5: for the entire night. I mean, I've always been taught
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  Speaker 5: years and years, talked to quarterbacks my whole career, offensive coordinators.
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  Speaker 5: I've watched film with these guys. I've always been taught,
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  Speaker 5: replace the pressure with the ball. And the first sack
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  Speaker 5: of the game, Bo's got an unblocked off ball rusher.
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  Speaker 5: And if he just simply flips the ball to Jalen
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  Speaker 5: Waddle behind the, behind that rusher, it's, it's a, it's
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  Speaker 5: a football one-on-one play and maybe it gets six yards,
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  Speaker 5: maybe it gets eight, but it's not a sack on
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  Speaker 5: the opening play of the game. And I thought, that
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  Speaker 5: just like set the tone for the whole night that
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  Speaker 5: things weren't in.
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  Speaker 4: Sync because he immediately looks.
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  Speaker 5: Away from replacing the pressure with the ball, which is
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  Speaker 5: what I've always been told you do, and goes back
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  Speaker 5: into where the coverage has been rotated and he can't
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  Speaker 5: find anybody. And the unblocked rusher is in on him.
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  Speaker 5: So I just thought that offensively, The three and outs,
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  Speaker 5: the lack of commitment to a run game they talked
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  Speaker 5: all offseason about being committed to, I think those were
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  Speaker 5: two really big red flags.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's just go down the line.
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  Speaker 6: Two plays later, the interception, I was looking at the
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  Speaker 6: all 22, and he could have gone to.
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  Speaker 1: The left or to the right, shorter routes that were
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  Speaker 1: wide open. They were open.
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  Speaker 6: And it looked to me, Legge, that he had his
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  Speaker 6: mind made up before the snap that he's going to
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  Speaker 6: go to Cortland Sutton.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: No, and sometimes, Vic, you know, quarterbacks do that. They
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  Speaker 5: get the pre-snap, and they make a decision. But, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure, you know, that play is open. It's
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  Speaker 5: an easy undercut. He's not hidden. It's not a hidden defender.
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  Speaker 5: It's not the safety rotating to come in and make
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  Speaker 5: the play. That's the corner who has Cortland simply undercutting him, and.
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  Speaker 4: A rookie, no less.
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  Speaker 1: Like, he read it. He read the play.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean.
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  Speaker 5: No, he knew the route, as good corners do. You know,
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  Speaker 5: corners study. But, you know, and that said, I just
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  Speaker 5: think that drive was pretty much, you know, it's the
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  Speaker 5: first drive of the regular season.
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  Speaker 4: You've had the big buildup.
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  Speaker 5: You've, you know, and you go, you know, stack, middling play, interception,
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  Speaker 5: and suddenly you're all readied.
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  Speaker 4: Giving Mahomes the ball, momentum, the crowd is crazy.
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  Speaker 5: You've done everything you didn't want to do in a
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  Speaker 5: space of like a minute and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff, we talked about this ad nauseum on Tuesday, ad
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  Speaker 2: nauseum yesterday, a little bit so far today. Andy Reid,
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  Speaker 2: you knew he wanted to run the football, and he
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  Speaker 2: bashed the Broncos right in the face with it on
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  Speaker 2: that first drive. You know what I mean? I mean–
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  Speaker 2: Walkers had seven carries in the first drive for crying
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  Speaker 2: out loud, and Dobbins is in and out and so on. Jeff,
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  Speaker 2: you've got a three and one, a third and one,
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  Speaker 2: and you spread. You go empty five wide, and Brett
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  Speaker 2: pointed it out. Four guys were on patterns way down
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  Speaker 2: the field. Troutman's the only one who actually sat in
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  Speaker 2: a spot. Why not just hand the football off there
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  Speaker 2: and punch him in the mouth and get a yard, Jeff?
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  Speaker 2: Why are we getting too fancy and all this kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing?
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  Speaker 5: It's the same thing we've been talking about for a
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  Speaker 5: long time here, is this desire to put the quarterback
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  Speaker 5: in the gun all the time. I just don't think
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  Speaker 5: it's the move. And honestly, and look, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos should follow every league trend and they shouldn't
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  Speaker 5: think for themselves. I'm not saying that at all, but
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  Speaker 5: there is a reason quarterbacks were under center more in
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  Speaker 5: week one than we've seen in a very long time,
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  Speaker 5: 40 some percent of the snaps under center. And I,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I fully admit, I subscribe to the Shanahan Kubiak.
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  Speaker 5: It's tougher on a defense. If the quarterback's under center,
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  Speaker 5: it's also tougher on the quarterback and, and nobody, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: all you got to do is drive around and watch
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  Speaker 5: high school football.
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  Speaker 1: And Everybody's taking the snap.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's in the gun. Everybody's in the gun.
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  Speaker 5: So you're going to have to teach somebody to do it.
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  Speaker 6: And the reason, Leggy, if you could explain, is because
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  Speaker 6: when you're under center, your eyes come off the field because,
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  Speaker 6: you know, you have to take steps back. When you're
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  Speaker 6: in the gun, your eyes are always on the defense,
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  Speaker 6: and it's easier.
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  Speaker 1: To assess and evaluate. But you're so right.
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  Speaker 6: The lost art of being able to take a snap,
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  Speaker 6: go backwards, and then assess the defense.
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  Speaker 5: Because the options a defense has to consider is more
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  Speaker 5: under center, when a quarterback's under center. Now, it's also
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  Speaker 5: easier for the quarterback to get the ball out in
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  Speaker 5: the gun and get completions and all of those things,
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  Speaker 5: pile up yards. I mean, we've seen passing numbers like
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  Speaker 5: we never have with quarterbacks in the gun. But in
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  Speaker 5: terms of moment-to-moment pressure on a defense, making a decision,
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  Speaker 5: it's much more difficult if a team plays from under center.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll always believe that. And, yeah, you know, the.
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  Speaker 5: Only 600-point offense we've ever seen in league history was here,
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  Speaker 5: and the quarterback was in the gun a ton. But
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  Speaker 5: if anyone doesn't think Peyton Manning could go under center–
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  Speaker 5: and run some of the best play action stuff you've
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  Speaker 5: ever seen in your life.
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  Speaker 4: That's just ridiculous. He could do it. He was one
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  Speaker 4: of the best at it.
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  Speaker 5: And I spent countless hours on the practice field, watching
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  Speaker 5: him in his, you know, double digit years in the league, uh,
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  Speaker 5: practicing play action and selling the fake like nobody I've
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  Speaker 5: seen practice it before or since. So, uh, I just,
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  Speaker 5: And I guess I expected more because, and I said
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  Speaker 5: on the show the other day for the afternoon guys,
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  Speaker 5: that I think the thing that I wonder the most
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  Speaker 5: about is they didn't play that game Monday like they
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  Speaker 5: had practiced in camp. So it's sort of like a
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  Speaker 5: decision they obviously made.
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  Speaker 4: Going into the game week. And I'm curious about that.
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  Speaker 5: I've asked lots of people, but that's not how they
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  Speaker 5: practiced in camp. there was a lot more variety in camp.
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  Speaker 2: It's so interesting that you talk about the gun. I
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  Speaker 2: was watching Joe Montana in his heyday 49ers game about
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  Speaker 2: a week ago. And Jeff, it looks so foreign to me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about Montana under center, sprinting back
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  Speaker 2: into seven-step drop, right? And then rifling the ball downfield.
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  Speaker 2: But it just looked, it doesn't look like the same game.
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  Speaker 2: It's just kind of a... it's a weird thing to
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  Speaker 2: go back and watch film from 30, 40 years ago
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  Speaker 2: and the guys under center. And then, you know, what we,
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  Speaker 2: what we've got going on today where everybody's just trying
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  Speaker 2: to be so damn dynamic.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and it's, I mean, it's just easier to move
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  Speaker 5: the ball, you know, quickly to when you're, when you're
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  Speaker 5: going to spread receivers out in that, I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 5: you know, if you're going to, you should have that
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  Speaker 5: card in your deck.
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  Speaker 4: On offense, I think.
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  Speaker 5: And, and I think if, If you are athletic enough
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  Speaker 5: to play quarterback in the NFL, you're athletic enough to
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  Speaker 5: learn the footwork coming back from center.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it's not easy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not here to tell you it's easy.
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  Speaker 5: I've had long discussions with people who've played for Mike
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  Speaker 5: and Gary, and there's much different footwork. There's three different
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  Speaker 5: kinds of five-step drops. There's multiple seven-step drops in terms
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  Speaker 5: of depth and timing and where you end up. There's
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  Speaker 5: tons of things there, but I just think it makes
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  Speaker 5: an offense more powerful and more able to return the
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  Speaker 5: physicality to a defense that you're getting from.
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  Speaker 3: Time to time. Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com. All conversations with Legge
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of career, what do I make of this, Jeff?
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  Speaker 3: Because here's the funny thing. Bo Nix has had virtually
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  Speaker 3: the exact same week one for three straight years. They've
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  Speaker 3: all been bad performances in the first week, including multiple
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  Speaker 3: turnovers in each of those games, which he doesn't turn
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  Speaker 3: the ball over too much. But overall, Sean Payton teams...
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  Speaker 3: don't do well early in the season. And I looked
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  Speaker 3: this up. His Hall of Fame quarterback, Drew Brees, over
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  Speaker 3: the course of his career, had a record of 29-33
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  Speaker 3: in the month of September. How much does Sean Payton just,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say not care, but is unbothered
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  Speaker 3: by early losses in the season?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it would be wrong to say he's
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  Speaker 4: not bothered.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know how else to say it. Like,
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  Speaker 3: it's so consistent.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it's just weird.
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  Speaker 5: I think Sean and his approach, he runs camp differently
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  Speaker 5: than a lot of teams do. His guys play in
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  Speaker 5: the preseason. There could be all sorts of little tiny
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  Speaker 5: factors that add up into his September record, but they
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  Speaker 5: have spent a lot of time and effort about getting
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  Speaker 5: off to a better start this year. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: that's obviously not the first step they wanted to take,
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  Speaker 5: but there is something there. You can't deny that it it's,
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  Speaker 5: it's been an issue, not an issue, but it's happened
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  Speaker 5: many years before he got to Denver. And I think
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  Speaker 5: he just, he coaches hard and sometimes they, and I
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  Speaker 5: think he's more willing to sort of kick the tires
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  Speaker 5: in September to see what they can and can't do
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  Speaker 5: and get a, get the information.
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  Speaker 3: So to piggyback on that, are you concerned about how
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  Speaker 3: bad the tackling was in the first week, or is
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  Speaker 3: that a byproduct of maybe a training camp in which
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  Speaker 3: they didn't bring people to the ground?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's league-wide.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think you saw every defense we think
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  Speaker 5: is going to be good not be very good week one.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, was Houston very good?
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  Speaker 1: No, they were not.
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: They were not.
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  Speaker 5: And I think you can't say that's not going to
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  Speaker 5: be a good defense, I don't think. I just think,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we all watch camp practices and the defense
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  Speaker 5: looks ahead of the offense in those practices because they're
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  Speaker 5: in the right place. But we don't get to see
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  Speaker 5: the end of the movie, as it were. You know,
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  Speaker 5: would they have run through that tackle? Was he really
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  Speaker 5: squared up in the hole? You know, are the run
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  Speaker 5: fits really where they're supposed to be uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and they grade all that stuff, uh, when they watch
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  Speaker 5: the practice film every day, but it's still different when.
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  Speaker 4: You're bringing, trying to bring Kenneth Walker to the ground, uh,
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  Speaker 4: than if, while I was in the hole. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you did make the right move and you, you
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  Speaker 5: had the right fit, but we didn't get to see
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  Speaker 5: the end of the end of the show as it were. And,
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  Speaker 5: but I do think it was league wide. Now that said, uh,
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  Speaker 5: I look back through an awful lot of games. I
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  Speaker 5: chart everything and I had them for 19 missed tackles.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the highest number in a very long time
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  Speaker 5: for them. And I think I had four plays where
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  Speaker 5: they had two missed tackles on the play.
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  Speaker 2: All right, real quick, 30 seconds or less. What's the
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  Speaker 2: story with Harvey and Mims? Bad, not good. Okay. What
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  Speaker 2: do we think?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I have not seen him yet. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: haven't seen him moving around yet. So that's coming later today.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll, We'll see.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Marvin came back in the game after going to
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  Speaker 5: the locker room for a bit. So, you know, it
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  Speaker 5: may have been one of those cases where had they
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  Speaker 5: been on the field yesterday, they would have just given
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  Speaker 5: them the day off to ramp them up slowly. But
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  Speaker 5: we'll see today where, you know, if they're working with
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  Speaker 5: everybody or if they're on the side field that he
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  Speaker 5: no longer wants us to say who's on the side field.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff, the Jags feel real. They feel On both
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  Speaker 2: sides of the ball, they feel real. You've got to
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  Speaker 2: win this game, man.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 5: They're the only team to beat the Broncos here last year.
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  Speaker 5: So they already know they can do it because they
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  Speaker 5: just did it. They're going to have to be much
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  Speaker 5: sounder on offense. They've got to be– I think he
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  Speaker 5: summed it up after the game Monday, too many throws,
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  Speaker 5: not enough runs. Look, no one's advocating for them to
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  Speaker 5: run the ball 80% of the time or anything, but
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  Speaker 5: they've got to have a little more physical approach.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com, last thing for you. Take yourself back
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  Speaker 3: to when you were a kid. You got a toy
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  Speaker 3: you really liked on Christmas, and then it needed batteries,
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  Speaker 3: and you didn't have batteries. That's what I felt like
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  Speaker 3: watching Jalen model that first week. It's like, well, I
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  Speaker 3: was expecting this new toy to be fun. And between
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  Speaker 3: him and Cortland Sutton, it was three catches and what,
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  Speaker 3: like 15 yards or something. It was nuts. What happened?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's a, and that's where I think in game, you've,
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  Speaker 5: you've got to just do things just to get the
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  Speaker 5: ball in their hands.
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  Speaker 4: And if that means leaving, leaving the call sheet, that's
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  Speaker 4: what you do.
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  Speaker 5: You know, just cause you planned it doesn't mean you
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  Speaker 5: got to stick with it. Uh, I just don't think
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  Speaker 5: they were very adaptive in the moment. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Sean hinted at that after the game. And I think
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  Speaker 5: they will be a lot smoother this week in that regard.
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  Speaker 4: You know, now will the plays function any better? Will
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  Speaker 4: they get more yards? I can't say that.
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  Speaker 5: But I think they have spent time this week on, okay, we,
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  Speaker 5: you know, got to be a little more adaptive and
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  Speaker 5: be ready to get off the plan if it's clearly
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  Speaker 5: not getting the ball where you want it.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com, joins us every Thursday. Always appreciate it, Leggy.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: See you, fellas.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com, joins us every Thursday. One final keyword
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  Speaker 3: for you guys coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: You just said that.
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  Speaker 3: All right, one final keyword today, a chance to get
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  Speaker 3: Cool with that?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna do it anyway. This from Paul Sheehy. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: The level of sheer ignorance of Broncos bloggers and self-proclaimed
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  Speaker 3: journalists continues to amaze and has never been higher. I
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  Speaker 3: get it. Rage baiting a passionate fan base gets clicks,
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  Speaker 3: but it doesn't take away from the ignorance or incompetence
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  Speaker 3: on display.
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  Speaker 7: Hmm?
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  Speaker 3: That is Alex Singleton's agent who threw that out there.
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  Speaker 1: What's the problem? Is he catching a lot of heat?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't think we mentioned his
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  Speaker 1: name once on this show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we did.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't call us out in particular. He said Broncos, bloggers,
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  Speaker 3: and journalists. Alex Singleton has taken a lot of heat
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  Speaker 3: since the first game because Alex Singleton led the team
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  Speaker 3: in missed tackles.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: He also led the team in tackles.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Yes. Your own little internet shows are driving me crazy.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: The numbers that I saw on NextGenStats were he had
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: 15 tackles in the game, but he had five missed tackles.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: That means a quarter of the tackles he could have made,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: he missed. That's still a pretty large number.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, listen.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: If you're going to whittle the game down to Alex Singleton,
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: are you watching the game?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't say that. No, no, not you, not you,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: not you. I'm talking about the people who are in
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: this uprising. Watch the game. Everybody was terrible. They all
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: missed tackles.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Well, this is part of, I think, his problem. We
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: talk about this a lot. Every team has the punching
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: bag of the team, right? Everybody's got one. The Avs,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: it was Sammy G for a long time. The Nuggets,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: it was Will Barton for a long time. MPJ, whoever.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Alex Singleton's kind of been that for the Broncos. He's
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: been the guy. Him and Riley Moss kind of get
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: beat up a lot.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: But he leads them in tackles every single season.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Every game.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Well, he should.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: He's the inside linebacker. He should lead the team in tackles.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I think he's pretty effective at what he does.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Can they play better on the inside?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Can they play better?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: But so could a lot of other players could play better. Correct.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I guess the way I look at it is I
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: don't think Singleton had an especially good game. He had
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: a pretty bad game, as most of the Broncos' defense did.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: And I would just, to me.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: On that touchdown run, just to stop you, on the
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: touchdown run by Mahomes... He got fooled pretty badly on
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: that play.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: And went with the receiver across middle of the field,
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: vacated the middle of the field, and it opened it
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: up for Mahomes.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: But, you know.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: There's moments in the game where everybody got fooled.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Correct. I don't think anybody should be defending. Any agent
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: should be defending anybody on that defense after that game.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe wait for another one to take that opportunity. But
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: this one, everybody on defense, all 11 or how many
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: ever– you know, other rotational people went in the game, 15,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: 16 people, you all need to say we played terrible.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Because if I asked you guys, is there one guy
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: on the Broncos defense that you would say played well?
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I might, maybe even Zach Allen, like kind of unnoticed
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: in the game. I don't think there was a single guy.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jaquan made a nice pass breakup, but then
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: missed the tackle, and Travis Kelsey led to a 60-yarder. Like,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: everybody played poorly.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Safeties looked a little off and slow. It's just, I mean, God,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I'm stuttering here. The whole thing gets compounded because you
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: didn't tackle. So then everything else looks even worse.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: If there's one thing that I would say this about
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: in the Jags game, would you guys agree or disagree?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: If there's one thing that I am almost assured will change,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: they will tackle much better.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I would hope so.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: Because it's going to be a long season if they don't.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Now, everything else, and I like that we spent the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: bulk of that time with Jeff Laywald, who, again, for
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: my money, is as knowledgeable and as smart about football
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: as anybody that talks to us or anyone else in town.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I love that we spent the majority of that on
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the offense. Because, guys, this is a problem. When you
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: are one of the league's worst at three and outs
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: for consecutive seasons, multiple. And you spent the entire off
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: season on the emphasis of that will not happen again.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: And four of your first six drives to start the
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: season did just that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: It happens again.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: That's a major issue. And it should be a major concern.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: If this offense wants to be any better than it
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: was last year. And when I say better, I think
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: we all know that translates to more consistent.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because there are times when it can look incredibly dynamic.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: That needs to change because of this. Your defense played
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: bad on Monday, right? Couldn't tackle. You know what's really
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: bad for that? Three snaps and they're back on the field.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: That's bad.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: You need to be able to bail them out. Maybe
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: give them a chance to reset for a second. before
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: running back out on the field. If you're on and
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: off in three plays, four out of the first six
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: drives of the game, that's a major problem.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: How many drives did the Broncos have in that game?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: How many drives? How many drives?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I'll give it to you in just a second. Hang on. Nine.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: They had six in the first half. I know that
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: because for the first six drives, blah, blah, blah. So
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: after that, it was seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 11 drives.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: So 11 drives, 11 possessions.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: When you have the football in your hands and a
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: chance to do some damage How many of those drives
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: were actually impressive?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: The second one.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: One.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: One.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You're one for 11.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Do you want to hear the total yards on each
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: one of their drives?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You're one for.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Hey, if you break it down like that, one for
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: 11 is not only awful, it's god-awful.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: It's F-. I want to break it down the total
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: yards on each drive.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Okay? Negative one.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: 68. That was the touchdown drive.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: That was such a good... Can I say this? That
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: was a very, very good drive.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: 19, 8, 9, 5, 20, negative 8, 4, 5, 13.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: They didn't have a single drive outside the second one
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that netted over 20 yards.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: That is absolutely terrible.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: I would contend, and I don't know how bad last
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: year was, that's worse than any game last year.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Let me go back. The only one I can think
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: of is maybe the Jets game. The Jets game, maybe.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Let me see.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: I can't recall a game that was that bad.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: This is your opener.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: They were 10th overall in yards per game last season.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Isn't that weird?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Pretty good. Let's see where they were in points. Because
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: they averaged more points per game.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: They were.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: They were tied for 13th, essentially, in points per game
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: with Houston.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I was just looking up the Jets game. The Jets
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: game is pretty bad, but they had, at least in
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: that game, they had a 23-yard drive, a 69-yard drive,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: a 30-yard drive, a 65-yard drive. So they had a few.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: They had a few.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Boy, now you're getting my excitement level up here. Now
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: you're getting me going. Let me check it out. I'm
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: trying to be Brett Cain. I'm so bad at this
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: compared to you, bro.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Well, if you just tell me what you're trying to find,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I can find it quicker than you.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: But I like to learn.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Bottom line is, that is actually remarkable. That you had
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: a single drive that went over 20 yards in that
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: first game.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: The remarkable is not the word. That's not the word.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Let me go to the AFC title game.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: In fact, give me another team in football that was
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: that bad on opening week.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: You know what? Let me see the Browns.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: No, look at the Rams.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: See what they did.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Hey, Vic, AFC title game. Sloppy pig mess at halftime, right? Yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Here's their drives.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: One yard, 59 yards, 22 yards, 43 yards, minus five yards,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: 14 yards, 15 yards, six yards, three yards, 17 yards,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: five yards, one yard, end of the game.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Second half was also a total.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, but Stidham, dude, Stidham against the Pats,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, they had those drives at 49 yards, 43.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: They had.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Multiple drives and multiple yards.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: It is now Thursday.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: And the more we go back and break down Monday
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: night's game, the more we go back and look at it,
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: the theme Tuesday was tackling.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And it was just poor tackling. It was embarrassing tackling.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: But every day that goes by, you guys see the shift.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: Because I've been talking about this for a while. The
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: problem with the Denver Broncos is on the offensive side
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: of the football.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: It's the reason they lost the AFC title game. And
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: it's been a reason they lost a lot of other games.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: This offense gets bogged down, gets uncreative, gets boring, gets three-and-outed,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: doesn't go anywhere. And it's coached by offensive-minded people, which
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: is stunning to me.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: So then what's the common denominator here, Vic?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're banging our heads against the damn wall, seemingly.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: every other week about this. What's the common denominator? Is
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: it the playbook? Is it the quarterback? Is it brain
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: damage sessions all week long where you get back to
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: three and outs and you take offensive penalties in the
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: most inopportune time? I mean, what is it? Or is
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: it just, it's always something? Until it isn't, like you
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: scored 33 points in the fourth quarter against the New
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: York Giants. But it seems like it's always something until
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it isn't. Always something. And then you figure out a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: way to get something done.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It's got to be.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And again, guys, you put yourself in an 0-2 hole.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: We know how difficult that is to bounce your way
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: back and make the playoffs. Again, I don't have. I'm
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: trying to do this from memory because I've seen this
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: stat so many times. I think it's like 11% of
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: teams that go 0-2 make the playoffs. I don't know
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: how many. of that 11% have a week three game
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: against a team that is the Super Bowl favorites entering
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: the season.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that percentage then goes to, but again,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I'll bring back something that I said yesterday. I'm not
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: going to say the actual words, but it rhymes with
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: bust pin. I'm not going to say this game is that,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: but it's pretty damn close.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Didn't we settle on frust friend or something like that?
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Frust friend.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Flush Flynn, Frust Fran, whatever.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Brett, I was able to look it up. Somebody said,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you want to learn? Let Brett look it up from
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: now on. Hey, you know what?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: You shut up.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: From the 4952, look it up and move on.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: That's Mike.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: It's 10.1% to 12.8%. I mean, it just depends on.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, about 11%.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But how much of the 11% that start the year
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: 0-2 play against the Super Bowl favorites in Week 3? Yeah.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: It's a little more difficult from there.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And then the next week, it gets the team that
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: beat the snot out of them down under. Then the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: next week, against a division rival who's probably going to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: be pretty torqued off. And then the next week, the
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: defending Super Bowl champions.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I think the Broncos offense is, the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: more I think about it? Wears a lot of makeup.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Try to be pretty. No natural beauty. They aren't pretty.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying about that?
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, but I'm agreeing with you. Like, here's what he,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: in offense, that is not pretty. Here's what it looks like.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: You've spent the most money on offense on your offensive line.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: You have repeatedly, what's going on in your house? You
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: have repeatedly. Repeatedly.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, my wife's go crazy because Dante passed the bar exam.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: That's Dante. You're a good kid.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a good kid.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Good kid.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That's a big day.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: In the Lombardi household.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Congrats, Vic.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: We got a lawyer. You raised a smart boy.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Um, I might need a lawyer.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I'm on the radio.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't like that yet. Oh, I did. I've
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: heard that dude, that tone. I've heard that tone directed
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: at me before. And I was scared. I'm scared for you.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Here's what an offense that doesn't look pretty is built.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Like you're talking to my guy all wrong. It's wrong tone.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: You spend all of your money on the offensive line.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: You invest in another running back. That's the, Third consecutive year,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: by the way, or I guess second consecutive year, but
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: it's Dobbins. You spent a second rounder on RJ Harvey,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: a fourth rounder on Jonah Coleman. You have wide receivers
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: who are six foot four and you like to bring
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: them on the roster because they block really well. That
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: ain't some sort of greatest show on turf offense, okay?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: By the way, how big is this weekend's game?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Historically?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Let me give it to you. Hey, Vic, you talked
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: about it. The 93 Cowboys won the Super Bowl after
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: starting 0-2. So did the 01 Patriots and the 07 Giants.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: A 1% success rate, and that's it. That's how big
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: this flipping game, if you want the Broncos to win
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, they're going to have to do something
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: if they lose to the Jacksonville Jaguars that three teams
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in history have done that happens 1% of the time.
• 31:16
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• 31:18
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• 31:22
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• 31:23
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• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, Vic.
• 31:47
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• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, no, no, no.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Vic, Mosher just looked at me as the intro music
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: is playing. And he said, how long do you think
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: it would take with our current means of travel to
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: get to Pluto? You know, okay.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: But hang on.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I said.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Said.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: What?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: No, that's good stuff, man. So stop everything. 100% pure stuff.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: When people ask, hey, you know, I love your show. Yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: we're all friends. We get together. And when people say,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: so what's Moe's really like? I always try to describe.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Just think of the craziest mindset you've... Like, a guy
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: that just thinks so far off.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: The beaten path. that you can't even imagine where his
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: mind goes. Double that, and that's Mosher.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I went to pee during the break, came back in,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: music's about to start, does start, Mosher gives me the hand.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: The hand of like, hang on, before you put your
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: headphones on, I need to relay something to you.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Something very important.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: How long with our current means of travel would it
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: take for us to get to Pluto?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And I said, Mosher, our current means of travel, not
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: like today?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Hang on, Vic. And I said, Moj, I have no idea.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: And he goes, 91 and a half years. And then
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: he stared at me, and I put my headphones on
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: and started to do the show again.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And right now, you're a little bit smarter than you
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: were five minutes ago, and you're welcome.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: You're welcome. Yeah, because that's going to come into many conversations.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Hey, I got, yeah. I mean, I, you know, when.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm in one today.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Why don't you throw that out at your wife today?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Knock her socks off. Hang on.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Texter says, T texted in, six hours each way.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, here's a good text. You know what, Moshe?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: This goes back to that whole space exploration crap.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: And why I don't care about space. And people make
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: fun of me. I don't care about Mars and Pluto
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and Venus and the moon.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: You guys do all that exploration you want. Now, if
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: you can improve my commute from Golden... to a wrap
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: a whole road on a daily basis. I'm in let's talk,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: but you're telling me 91 years. I don't care how
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: long it takes to get to Pluto. I care how
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: long it takes to the places I go to every day.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, I just saw this. So Moj is in
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: his slacks and his polo shirt for the abs training camp.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: That's happening after the show today. But Moj is going
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: to be doing some TV stuff. That makes sense. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: then Raj walks in. What is Raj wearing? Slacks and
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: a polo.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: These hockey guys are all the same.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: You hockey fellas.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: They're all the same. They just fall in line. Here's
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the thing.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding, Vic. The first game, it's back
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: in 2019 that I went to, first Avs game that
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I went to since starting the show. I said, you
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: know what? My wife's still in Nebraska. She hasn't moved
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: here yet. I'm going to go to the game tonight.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: And it was, I don't know, January, February, something like that. Cold,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: outside cold. I was like, it's cold outside, and then
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go inside where there's ice, and it's
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: going to be cold in there. I'm going to wear
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: a hoodie and sweatpants. And I took the elevator up
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: to the press area, and I looked around, and I go,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: why does everybody look like they're dressed to go to
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: the Oscars tonight? And I am in a hat and
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: a sweatshirt and sweatpants.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: You're on the other side of the ledger. You're just trash.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: We're covering a sporting event.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I know, but you showed up.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: You showed up at a very, very elite golf course
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: wearing the most ridiculous outfit I've ever seen.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Jelly-stained ripped shorts. So don't... You're an absolute pig.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: You don't understand how this works.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Why can't people just be casual? Like I said, you
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: frauds out there, I'm just myself, okay? I'm always myself.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I'll always be myself.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: You know what? There's got to be a certain... That's fine.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: You can be yourself. It doesn't mean somebody else... Has
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: to like it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Look, if I'm going to the White House or something, yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I'll wear the appropriate attire. If I'm going to church,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: I'll wear something.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: That was my next question because I went to church
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: last week and I saw a couple people wearing things
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: and I was like, what are you doing?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to church in flip-flops. I can promise
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you that.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, the guy in front of me was not only
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: wearing flip-flops. He was wearing jorts.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: You're kidding.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Catholic church?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: That's odd.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Don't judge, but I judged.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: There are way more lax churches out there, depending on
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: what your non-denominational, where you can just kind of go
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: there in a football jersey if you want to. It's
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: a different vibe. If I'm going to a Catholic church,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not wearing gym shorts. You know what I mean?
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: But going back to your Pluto thing, Moshe, like we're so.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Trying to get us off the Pluto thing, but I can't,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: No, because we spend so much money on how long
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: till we get to Mercury and Mars and Pluto and
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: Can we just get from Castle Rock to Fort Collins
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: in a reasonable time?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Can we focus on that?
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Why didn't we build a frigging train to the mountains
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: when we had the chance, man? Can we focus on
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Denver to Vail? Before we get Denver to Pluto, can
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: we go Denver to Vail?
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Baby steps.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Sounds good.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Hey, Kaner.
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: A very good text here from the 0621. What's up?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's been discussed since Monday. It was
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: less than a month ago. Vic and Brett are getting
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: mad at Mosher for not being excited about Bo Nix.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Mosher had to defend himself that he likes him, but
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: wasn't excited about him.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: You know what? You're right, Moshe. No, you're not. It
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: was a single game. No, he's right.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Why are people reacting like that was the season yesterday
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: or on Monday?
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Because, you know, you got to give credit where credit
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: is due. Maybe Mosher saw this coming.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Hey, am I excited about Nikola Jokic? This season? Are
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: you excited?
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: What if he has a 13-point game in the first game?
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Does that mean I'm not excited about Jokic anymore?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: If that happens, I'm going to text him to a
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: radio show.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: God, this is what I'm talking about. What is it
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: about football and quarterbacks that make people react this way?
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: That a single game means this is exactly who the
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: guy is. And you can do the I told you
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: so game. It's a single game out of a 16-game season.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: 17-game season.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm going to do. All year long,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: after every single game, I'm going to pose the $ 55
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: million question to you every single time. And I'm going
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: to chart your reactions.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Well, Moj, my answer is going to be the same
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: until we get about halfway through the year. So maybe
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: you can save it until like week eight or nine.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: All right, week eight or nine.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Moj, what if they cut the time it takes to
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: get to Pluto in half? Would that change your argument?
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: It's only 45 and a half years, man. It's still
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: too long. Still too long, bro.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Tell you what, the Broncos defense sucks. I saw it
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: on Monday. They're terrible, aren't they?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: They're not.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: They're the worst in the NFL, actually. Statistically, the worst
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: and the worst at stopping the run. I bet you
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: that's going to happen 16 more times this year.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Brett, what I'm... Or.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe, maybe it was 60 minutes of a season.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly right. It was 60 minutes of a season.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: What I'm trying to tell you, Joker's going to have
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: 81 more games to try and do better than 13 points.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: The difference is Joker's a three-time MVP.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: He's got the pelts on the wall.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: And this guy... And you know what's coming. And if
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: you're going to pay this guy $ 55.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Million a season, he's going to have to win... He's
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: going to have to play better than that. He'll have
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: to play better than that.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: But if they go 0-2 to start the year, this
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: is not good, bro.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, let me... Let me disagree.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Let me reach across the aisle for a second. If
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you were.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Already in the anti-Bo Nix camp and you thought he
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't good, you have every right to feel that way today.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: You have every right.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: If you thought that Bo Nix was good and now
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: you don't, you're being a fool.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Listen to me. Listen to me.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: This is very important information that I'm about to share.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: And I need your ears to perk up a little bit.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: This is very important for everybody.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: You can write this down.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: If you say something about Pluto.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: No, it has nothing to do with that. It has
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: to do with the Broncos game this Sunday. I want
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: you to pay attention to something, and this is very important.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: It's not whether or not the Broncos lose. Must-wins don't
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: exist this early.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: It's how. Let's say they do lose. How they lose.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: How they lose will be important.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: If the Denver Broncos cannot get anything going offensively and
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: they lose again that way, I will be very, very concerned.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: How they lose.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Not whether they lose.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: If they lose this Sunday to Jacksonville, I don't know, 32-28,
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: and that offense is zooming, you know what? I'll walk
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: away from that going, okay, okay. We can fix some
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: things defensively. We've seen it before.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: But the offense woke up.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: If they win the game 7-3, I might sit here
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: on Tuesday and go, what the hell's going on?
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Okay. Let me give you one thing before we have
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: to get out of here, and I will continue this tomorrow.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: The texture says, how many times does Bo have to
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: play bad before you realize that he's bad? Bo Nix,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: in his record in statistics in September, in his career,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: he is four and five record-wise. He has nine touchdowns
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: and nine picks in the month of September in his career.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: You know what he is in October? He's seven and
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: one with 15 touchdowns and two picks. Is that good?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: In November... He's 6-2 with 12 touchdowns and 5 picks.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Do you take that? 100%. In December, he's 5-3 with
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: 15 touchdowns and 8 picks. Is that good enough?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: You bet.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, Brett, what I'm trying to tell you— This is
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: every year in September, and people are acting like this
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: is what happens all year.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Damn it, Brett. I'm telling you. That may be all
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: fine and dandy. October, November, December, good, good, good, good,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: good stuff. Good stuff. If you play like this again
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: in September, bro, those months aren't going to matter at
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: all because you're going to be out of it. You're
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: going to be chasing your tail and everybody else for
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the rest of the damn season.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: But they've been this way in September. They've started both seasons.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: They've had an easier schedule.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: They've started both seasons one and two, and what I'm
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: telling you is he's going to play better because that's
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: the evidence that's in front of you.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: You better hope your ass he does.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this right now. Bo Nix, as far
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: as beginning of the season to end of the season,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: feels a lot like Jamal Murray. How many times does
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Jamal start the season terribly? And then it comes to
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: games that matter, and he plays really well.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you, but you better be right.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're 22 years old. You're an astronaut.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: The government approaches you and says, it's going to take
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: you 60 years to get to Pluto. And you're obviously
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: not going to come back alive.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: It's 90 years.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm going to shoot it to 60. You'll
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: be a national hero. They'll be talking about you for
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the end of time.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Pass. Pass. Well, you say, what am I going to
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: do when I get there?
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Pass.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Do you consider it?
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: No. No.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Not for a second.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I would laugh so aloud if somebody came to my
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: house and said, would you consider this, sir?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, one thing real quick. You're going to love this name.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: The winner who's going to the Avs opening game is...
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Swan Evans.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: That's nice.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Swan. Congratulations to Swan Evans.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I like that. You forgot the first name. And Swan Evans.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: And Swan Evans. Sorry. And Swan Evans.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Who came in second? Julie Meadowlark Jones?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Reminder to you guys, Thursday night football tonight, Lions and Bills.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: DMACC's going to be at Stoney's Uptown Joint starting at 6. Nelly,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: quick fact checker for us.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's Fact Checker. Fact Checker.
• 44:08
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• 44:13
  Speaker 7: Brett was giving us his live read for Surfside and
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: almost proposed a less than ideal scenario for the golf course.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: You get that Cool golf weather now. Maybe a little
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: bit of a 70-degree day with a little bit of
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: a breeze.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: Brett, granted, I'm not you guys, so I'm not a
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: golf expert. I wouldn't like to golf in 70-mile-an-hour weather.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I pulled it together. I didn't go forward with the
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: whole thing. I almost got got. But I don't get.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: All right. Find the podcast.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I like that shirt, though, Moj.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: That looks nice.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Thanks, buddy. It's a nice shirt.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: You bought it on Pluto.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Spotify. Moshe Lombardi and Kane have a wonderful Thursday. We'll
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: talk to you tomorrow.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Love you. See you.