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American’s Gun Debate | FCC Chair Calls for ‘Equal Time’ · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: John kf I AM six forty Bill Handle Here. It
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Speaker 1: is a Monday morning, January twenty sixth as we open
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Speaker 1: up the week and Neil and Heather and the rest
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Speaker 1: of the crowd are here. And when we talk about
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Speaker 1: the polarization of what's going on in the country, nothing
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Speaker 1: is a better example of that than what happened during
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Speaker 1: the weekend in the shooting of Alex Pretty, the ICU
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Speaker 1: nurse in Minneapolis, and the ICE and in general federal
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Speaker 1: authorities have been accused of overreacting and it's and really
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Speaker 1: costing the administration some points in terms of approval. Even
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Speaker 1: those people who are in favor of controlling illegal migration
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Speaker 1: and controlling the borders are saying this, this is way
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Speaker 1: too much. I mean, you'll see a single migrant illegal
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Speaker 1: or not, surrounded by twenty agents and we see them
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Speaker 1: breaking into how well, one breaking into a house picking
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Speaker 1: up one kid, and of course a story gets huge
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Speaker 1: news and this becomes okay, look at what they are
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Speaker 1: doing well. It's a question of this happened once, and
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Speaker 1: when you think about it, there really have been two
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Speaker 1: of these shootings. But look what happened, and look at
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Speaker 1: how the administration is dealing with it. That's the problem.
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Speaker 1: And the administration is basically prepared to outright lie to us,
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Speaker 1: but so blatantly, so obviously that you have to shake
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Speaker 1: your head and saying, what where's the credibility here? And
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Speaker 1: this had to do with Alex pretty who was at
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Speaker 1: a demonstration. He had a weapon on him. He had
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Speaker 1: a nine millimeter gun and a holster. He had two magazines,
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Speaker 1: and he had a permit to carry that weapon.
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Speaker 3: It's an open carry state.
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Speaker 1: And so as he is videoing what's going on with
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Speaker 1: the police officer, I think they get into some kind
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Speaker 1: of altercation and down he goes. They go ahead and
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Speaker 1: at that point not even arresting him, they're pushing him
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Speaker 1: down a group of agents and now ten shots are fired.
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Speaker 1: And what the administration are saying, he came to massacre.
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Speaker 1: Agents never took the gun out of the holster.
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Speaker 3: Never.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you see one of the
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Speaker 1: agents walking away from the altercation with what appear to
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Speaker 1: be the same gun, a nine millimeter gun. As he
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Speaker 1: walks literally away from a ten shots rang out and
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Speaker 1: you have a pretty being shot and he was killed
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Speaker 1: right there on the spot. Christineam in a press conference
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Speaker 1: said he came there to slaughter the agents, and she
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Speaker 1: was asked over and over again did he brandish the gun?
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Speaker 1: Her answer, he was there to slaughter the agent. He
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Speaker 1: is a domestic terrorist. Okay, did he brandish his weapon.
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Speaker 1: He was there to slaughter the agents. You don't come
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Speaker 1: to a demonstration with a weapon. It is illegal. It
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Speaker 1: is not illegal. She just makes that up. And here's
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Speaker 1: what's going on, unfortunately with the administration, and I have
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Speaker 1: said that go out in the rain and have the
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Speaker 1: administration say the sun is out, and you have a
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Speaker 1: number of Republicans saying, yes, the sun is out as
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Speaker 1: they are drenched with water, but the sun is out
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Speaker 1: because I'm told the sun is out. He pulled out
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Speaker 1: his weapon. He was there to massacre.
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Speaker 3: He didn't know, he didn't. They made that up.
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Speaker 1: The other problem is is that what the administration is
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Speaker 1: saying is that these demonstrators, all of this is a
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Speaker 1: Democrat operation. The Democrats are doing this and law abiding
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Speaker 1: citizens are not. And basically, we are at war with
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Speaker 1: these demonstrators who are domestic terrorists, and that's what the
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Speaker 1: administration called Alex Preddy a domestic terrorists.
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Speaker 3: By the way, has he ever been accused of that?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: Was he on the radar screen of the FBI. No,
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Speaker 1: he's a nice to you nurse who was out there
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Speaker 1: and was demonstrating. I mean, he had a real problem.
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Speaker 1: What was going on?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 1: Was he an idiot for carrying a weapon, an open gun,
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Speaker 1: I mean on a holster guy? Yeah, I mean I
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Speaker 1: would never do that, not with a craziness out there.
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Speaker 1: So Minnesota, Minnesota Attorney general called well accuse Trump and
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Speaker 1: the top officials of putting out a flat out insane
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Speaker 1: narrative regarding the shooting. And you had ICE Commander Gregory
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Speaker 1: Bovino straight out say he attacked the agents. You had
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Speaker 1: Christy Nomes straight out say he attacked the agents and
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Speaker 1: he was there in a massacre those agents, and they
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Speaker 1: shot Preddy in self defense, straight out. And most the
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Speaker 1: vast majority of Republicans in Congress are either not saying
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Speaker 1: anything or they're agreeing with the administration. Yes, he is
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Speaker 1: there a massacre agent agents. That was his motivation. Did
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Speaker 1: he post anything No, Did he say anything no? Did
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Speaker 1: he have a permit to carry the gun? Well, they
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Speaker 1: can't say no to that one. Did he brandish the weapon?
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Speaker 1: Not if you look at any of the dozens of
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Speaker 1: videotapes or the dozens of recordings that were made by spectators.
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Speaker 1: But once again, the sun is out, the sky is blue,
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Speaker 1: even though it is pouring rain. That's how crazy it
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Speaker 1: has become. Now back to what happened over the weekend,
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Speaker 1: and this was the shooting of Alex Preddy, which is
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Speaker 1: the second major shooting that happened in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks. And it is well, as you know, the
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Speaker 1: controversy has not stopped. The demonstrations are going on throughout
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Speaker 1: the country. There is obviously a huge disconnect between what
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Speaker 1: the government is saying and what those who watched the
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Speaker 1: videos are seeing. We see a man who did not
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Speaker 1: brandish a gun. We see someone who looks like one
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Speaker 1: of the Ice agents is taking the gun away from
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Speaker 1: his holster that he had and then within a second
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Speaker 1: after that, ten shots rang out and he is killed.
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Speaker 1: And as we know, the government's position it was a
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Speaker 1: justified shooting and they were defending themselves because he was
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Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist, who is there to massacre the ICE agents?
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Speaker 1: I mean, just crazy stuff. And the investigation there is
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Speaker 1: no investigation. Both the White House and Department of Homeland
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Speaker 1: Security as well as Isis said outrights justified were done.
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Speaker 1: They were defending themselves against the terrorists. Okay, now here
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Speaker 1: is the problem is he had a gun permit. And
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Speaker 1: even I think it was Christinoams said that he should.
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Speaker 3: Not have been there. It was illegal.
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Speaker 1: Os Patel who said it was illegal for him to
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Speaker 1: be at that demonstration with a weapon. Wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: this was a man who had a license to carry
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Speaker 1: that weapon, didn't brand brandish, it just was walking around.
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Speaker 3: By the way, that is going to pan out.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no issue the administration, As the Attorney
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Speaker 1: General of Minnesota said, the administration is.
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Speaker 3: Insane, just insane.
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Speaker 1: I mean they're looking at this and pointing to somebody
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Speaker 1: else and pointing to a different time, a different place.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're describing what happened in a way that's
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Speaker 1: simply untrue. But you've got the NRA, You've got gun
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Speaker 1: advocates who are saying, wait, we have always said that
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Speaker 1: if you have a permit to carry a gun, if
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Speaker 1: you are a legal, law abiding citizen, and even an
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Speaker 1: open carry state where you are allowed to have those guns,
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Speaker 1: you can't shut that down. You can't argue it is
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Speaker 1: illegal to carry a gun simply because an administration an
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Speaker 1: administration arrest program is going on. So you can't carry
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Speaker 1: a gun only when you are protesting the administration and
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Speaker 1: ICE attacks on people.
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Speaker 3: No, you can't do that.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have a second Amendment, and effectively, what
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Speaker 1: the administration is saying, people who are anti Ice, anti
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Speaker 1: government do not have a second Amendment.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: Hey, let me tell you the NRA and gun advocates
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Speaker 1: are getting pretty pissed off about that. Even people who
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Speaker 1: are fanatically pro Trump and gun owners were I mean
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Speaker 1: by a fast overwhelming majority or pro Trump are pro Trump,
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Speaker 1: even them, even they are looking and saying, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: this was an ICE operation. Granted, no problem the ICE agent.
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Speaker 1: They won't even say the ICE agents aren't legally doing
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Speaker 1: what they can. They will not argue because they're so
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Speaker 1: pro administration. They will not argue if ICE is overreacting.
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Speaker 1: They are not offended that twenty agents are going after
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Speaker 1: one illegal migrant, and they're just not offended by that.
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Speaker 3: They get it.
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Speaker 1: But saying that you can't carry a weapon in a
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Speaker 1: state that's open carry with a permit. Now you're treading
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Speaker 1: on our ground if you have a second Amendment, which
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Speaker 1: they rely on, and the government is saying you don't
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Speaker 1: have a right to that second amendment. If you in
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Speaker 1: any way oppose our move, well, let me tell you
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Speaker 1: there are some real problems going on there, and now
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen as a result of that, not much,
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Speaker 1: because what will end up happening is will there be
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Speaker 1: other shootings? Of course, these ICE agents aren't trained very well.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a thirty seven day training period basically
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Speaker 1: a month's we're five weeks worth of training as opposed
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Speaker 1: to six months that normal academies have. I don't think
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Speaker 1: they're going to argue with twenty people overwhelming one migrant.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to argue very much with
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Speaker 1: separating families. Where there was that issue of that five
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Speaker 1: year old, and that is legitimately in discussion. Were the
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Speaker 1: ICE agents protecting that five year old? Did his father run?
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Speaker 1: Did they knock on the door asking if anybody inside
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Speaker 1: would take care of the child? We really don't know
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Speaker 1: the answer to that, Okay, so I'm open to discussion
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Speaker 1: on this one. But the shooting of Alex pretty you
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Speaker 1: tell me how controversial that was. In terms of interpretation,
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Speaker 1: there is no controversy. We saw what we saw. And
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Speaker 1: then there's a great line that's being said over and
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Speaker 1: over again, who are.
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Speaker 3: You going to believe.
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Speaker 1: Your statements, what you say, or my lying eyes? And
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Speaker 1: that basically says it all. So what's going to happen
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Speaker 1: with the gun supporters and the administration? Not nothing, But
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Speaker 1: when you have an administration that loses its base, or
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Speaker 1: loses part of its base, or offends this part of
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Speaker 1: its base, I don't know. So let's say we have
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Speaker 1: the next Democrat who runs for office and is a
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Speaker 1: staunch supporter of gun rights and who said, if you
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Speaker 1: are an American and it doesn't matter if you're protesting
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Speaker 1: or not, if you are legally allowed to have a
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Speaker 1: gun and are exercising your Second Amendment rights, then I
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Speaker 1: should be elected, as opposed to the Republican who backed
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Speaker 1: up the administration in saying gun rights are only for
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Speaker 1: those people that are on the side of Ice. If
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Speaker 1: you're against Ice, you should not be able to have
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Speaker 1: a gun. Ooh, we think that's a problem with the
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Speaker 1: Second Amendment just a little bit, all right, Hey. Equal
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Speaker 1: time is a concept that's been around forever, and basically
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Speaker 1: what it says is, if you have a political candidate
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Speaker 1: on or make a political statement, equal time has to
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Speaker 1: be given to the other side equal time. If you
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Speaker 1: have someone on for five minutes, then five minutes has
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Speaker 1: to go to the other side. The rule still there,
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Speaker 1: It's just not used by anybody except now the FCC
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Speaker 1: chair Brendan Carr, has said, Okay, we're now going to
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Speaker 1: give equal time. And the issue is not talk radio,
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Speaker 1: where it's conservative for the most part. The issue is television,
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Speaker 1: where you have Jimmy Kimmel, we have Steve Colbert, and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, equal time should be given.
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Speaker 3: But here's the problem.
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Speaker 1: Let's say you have a candidate on or even make
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Speaker 1: a political statement, the other side has to be given
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Speaker 1: a chance.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if that means.
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Speaker 1: A monologue has to then be delivered on the Colbert
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Speaker 1: Show or the Jimmy Kibbles Show.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how that works. I do know when
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Speaker 3: it comes to candidates.
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Speaker 1: It used to be where when it was more enforced,
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Speaker 1: and I've been around a long time here in radio,
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Speaker 1: I would have a candidate on, and I have to
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Speaker 1: give equal time to the other side. Most of the
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Speaker 1: time they didn't bother, but it was here's the problem
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Speaker 1: with equal time. So you have a candidate on, Okay,
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Speaker 1: you have a Republican on, then you have a Democrat on,
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Speaker 1: and then you have particularly the run for governor. Here,
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Speaker 1: whenever there's an open seat for governor, thirty people show up.
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Speaker 1: Some crazy people show up who have filed. Do all
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Speaker 1: thirty of them get their five minutes?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 1: Some I've put on because they were so much fun.
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Speaker 1: Remember that porno queen, whatever the hell.
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Speaker 3: Her name was.
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Speaker 1: And then we had who's that little guy Webster who
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Speaker 1: played Webster on TV?
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Speaker 4: I don't think I think you're getting your small black
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Speaker 4: people confused. You you're talking about from different strokes?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, the little the guy who was in.
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Speaker 4: Webster Manuel Lewis, I think it was.
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Speaker 3: I think it was a man.
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Speaker 1: You'll get the really small black guy who was fairly chunky.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had him on Coleman, Jerry cole Maybe it
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Speaker 3: was Gary Coleman, right, I mean he was.
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Speaker 1: We had to put him on phone books to make
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Speaker 1: it up to the microphone and I had him on
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Speaker 1: and that was hugely entertaining, but it was only for
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Speaker 1: entertainment purposes. Now, legitimately, if you look at enforcing the
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Speaker 1: equal time rule, I would have had thirty people on
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Speaker 1: because it's that many people can.
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Speaker 4: I asked the obvious question here. Yeah, and I don't
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Speaker 4: know why people don't call out Trump and his administration
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Speaker 4: on this.
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Speaker 3: How is that not DEI oh, it's a good point.
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Speaker 4: And they did this with NPR as well, saying that
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Speaker 4: they had to have more convert conservative voices. How is
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Speaker 4: that not inclusion and equity and dicause.
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Speaker 1: Good way, I'll tell you why, because they don't look
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Speaker 1: at it that far, because it's pretty surface thinking.
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Speaker 3: I mean, because who's it nailed after?
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Speaker 1: It's after the liberal and late night is generally liberal
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Speaker 1: by the talk show host. Remember Jimmy Kimmel when he
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Speaker 1: made that statement about Charlie Kirk and it wasn't even
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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk advocates and the followers and those who
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Speaker 1: were Charlie Kirk fanatics, and the Trump administration went crazy
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Speaker 1: to the point where Carr, the FCC chairman, threatened, and
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Speaker 1: thank god, it's only a threat because there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of bomb bass that happened that comes out of the
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Speaker 1: administration threatened to yank the licenses of the stations that
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Speaker 1: carried ABC, and as a matter of fact, there's a
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Speaker 1: good chunk of the affiliate stations that did take him
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Speaker 1: all off because that statement about Charlie Kirk so offended
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Speaker 1: the administration, so offended those followers, and when you have
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Speaker 1: the FCC chair get into yanking licenses. Now, it didn't
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Speaker 1: go any place, but there were affiliates who said no.
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Speaker 1: I think Sinclair one of the biggest affiliates out there,
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Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, I stand corrected, but I
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Speaker 1: think Sinclair was one of the major syndication groups ABC
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Speaker 1: only owns.
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Speaker 3: I think ABC owns five.
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Speaker 1: They still have the O and O owned and operated stations,
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Speaker 1: where the major networks were allowed five in the major cities,
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Speaker 1: five radio stations, five television stations. I know in radio
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Speaker 1: you can own as many as you want, but I thought,
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Speaker 1: I'm only I know, maybe they raise it to eight.
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Speaker 1: The point is is that syndicated programming that you hear
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Speaker 1: is on hundreds and hundreds of stations, all owned individually
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Speaker 1: or by station groups, not by the networks, and so
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Speaker 1: they are I tell you, they're real susceptible to the
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Speaker 1: pressure that the FCC can bring down them, and the
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Speaker 1: power is incredible. And car said, we're going to yank it,
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Speaker 1: So are we going to go back? Well, I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you what is going to happen is that if this rule,
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Speaker 1: if the egal time rule, will be enforced, it will
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Speaker 1: not be enforced on Fox. That I guarantee you not
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Speaker 1: enforced on Fox. Now, I does you know I look
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Speaker 1: at CNN. I look at Fox every day, and if
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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, CNN does give more time to the
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Speaker 1: opposite side than does Fox the way I see it,
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Speaker 1: And when there are panels, they always have some conservative,
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Speaker 1: not real conservative, but some conservative that the other panelists
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Speaker 1: rip into when it takes real balls to be a
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Speaker 1: conservative on a CNN panel. I don't watch Fox enough
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Speaker 1: to know if they do the same thing, because my
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Speaker 1: go to is CNN because I think of all of
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Speaker 1: the politically motivated networks and I'm talking about MSNBC that's
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Speaker 1: insanely left wing.
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Speaker 3: I don't even pay attention to what they do.
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Speaker 1: So I compare actually Fox and CNN, and I go
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Speaker 1: to CNN because I think it is less biased than Fox,
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Speaker 1: even though it is biased, and then also BBC BBC
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Speaker 1: tends to be fairly unbiased as well as the networks ABCNBC, CBS,
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Speaker 1: I think are unbiased and I don't think they would
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Speaker 1: have a problem with equal time rule. I do believe
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Speaker 1: that we well, we always make it available to the
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Speaker 1: other side if we have a politic candidate on we
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Speaker 1: at least I always have.
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Speaker 4: You know, many many times and often let them say no,
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Speaker 4: thank you, yeah, and they.
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Speaker 3: Do for the most part.
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Speaker 1: Occasionally we'll have someone who is on the opposite opposite side.
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Speaker 1: But you know, it got to the point where I
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Speaker 1: didn't think the equal time rule was there anymore. I
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Speaker 1: thought it had been suspended or eliminated because of the
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Speaker 1: lack of enforceability.
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Speaker 3: I guess not. Okay, Hey, here's what's going on.
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Speaker 1: I love this story, and that has to do with
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Speaker 1: the ballroom, where the East Wing of the White House
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Speaker 1: used to be. And this is where the Trump administration
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Speaker 1: is running into some issues. The ability for Trump to
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Speaker 1: tear down the East Wing and put up the ballroom.
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Speaker 1: Can the president do that? Yes, but there are two
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Speaker 1: committee that have to weigh in by law, and he's
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Speaker 1: ignored both of them.
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Speaker 3: And here's what he said.
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Speaker 1: There was a four hundred and fifty word post on
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Speaker 1: True Social My God talking about it, and he talked
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Speaker 1: about that the ballroom is a done deal.
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Speaker 3: That's it.
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Speaker 1: It's over. You can say what you want, doesn't matter
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Speaker 1: what the courts do. We're moving forward on this. All
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Speaker 1: of the structural seal windows, doors, ac heating equipment, marblestone,
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Speaker 1: pre cast concrete, bulletproof windows, glass, anti drone, roofing, and
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Speaker 1: much more is already in place. So therefore it's too late.
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Speaker 1: By the way, he wrote that in big block letters
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Speaker 1: in bold, it is too late. There is no practical, practical,
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Speaker 1: or reasonable way to go back. So there's two issues
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Speaker 1: with this. There's two parts of the demolition in and
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Speaker 1: the construction of the ballroom. One is above ground, one
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Speaker 1: is below ground. What the administration is saying is that
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Speaker 1: all of it is national security. The part below ground
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Speaker 1: is because that has to do with setting up a
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Speaker 1: war room, if you will, center a large situation room
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Speaker 1: where right now everything involved in bringing the president, members
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Speaker 1: of a cabinet, etc. Into a secure place in the
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Speaker 1: White House is really antiquated. And so they're building a
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Speaker 1: modern structure under the structure absolutely, national security, no question
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Speaker 1: about it.
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Speaker 3: Tax Payer dollars one. I don't think anybody's bitching about that.
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Speaker 1: But the ballroom above that, that's a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a different.
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Speaker 3: Issue, and it is, and it's a question of just
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Speaker 3: it looks horrible.
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Speaker 1: Truman put the Truman balcony on the White House in
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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four. Teddy Roosevelt changed the facade. It's been
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Speaker 1: changed over and over, but hasn't been changed in seventy
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Speaker 1: five years. And we get used to We don't like changes,
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Speaker 1: especially in our national buildings. And I think the problem
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Speaker 1: is not so much that the president has a right
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Speaker 1: to do that, it's how the president is doing that.
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you once this ballroom is built, and it
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Speaker 1: will be built, nobody will ever accuse it of being
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Speaker 1: understated elegance. That is just not going to happen, not
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Speaker 1: in this day and age. And there are lawsuits flying.
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Speaker 1: And what's interesting is the president's position is that he
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Speaker 1: has the right to do it.
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Speaker 3: We're done.
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Speaker 1: Yet his lawyers are in court federal court, saying that, well,
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Speaker 1: we still have time to change it, and we want
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Speaker 1: the judge to review the project, or at least the
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Speaker 1: two federal advisory panels to review the project, but the
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Speaker 1: Prince is saying, no, I'm building it no matter come
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Speaker 1: hell or high water.
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Speaker 3: So that part is I think done. He's going to
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Speaker 3: build it, and.
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Speaker 1: Then the west wing he is also going to tear
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Speaker 1: apart because he wants the west wing to match the
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Speaker 1: East wing, and the east wing that building is bigger
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Speaker 1: than the footprint of the middle part of the entire
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Speaker 1: of the entire White House. So what you're going to
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Speaker 1: see is the white House as we know it, the
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Speaker 1: center part of the White House, and then you have
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Speaker 1: the porticos leading out to.
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Speaker 3: The various wings.
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Speaker 1: And you've seen that millions of times, presidents walking down
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Speaker 1: that portico with the columns from the residents in the
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Speaker 1: middle to the west wing where the office is. And
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Speaker 1: what you're going to see is a building as big
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Speaker 1: as the ballroom with this small middle part. And it's
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Speaker 1: certainly not going to look like the White House that
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Speaker 1: we as we know it, and the inside is going
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Speaker 1: to be changed, and every first family can do that.
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Speaker 1: It's changed certainly the residence part, and do they have
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Speaker 1: ability to change the rest of it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
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Speaker 1: Jackie Kennedy restored a lot of it and what you're
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Speaker 1: going to see is I think a complete restoration of
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Speaker 1: the White House, if you want to call it a restoration,
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Speaker 1: and the White House will look like mar A Lago.
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Speaker 3: That's what we're going to have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of gold, lots of columns, I mean his office.
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Speaker 1: If you look at how many flags he has behind him,
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Speaker 1: and if you look at all the gold trim that
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Speaker 1: he's put up, Yeah, it basically looks like an Iranian whorehouse.
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