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Credlin | 23 December · Credlin

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  Speaker 1: Peter Kredlin live on Sky News Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Caroline Marcus filling in for Peter Kredlin. Here's what's
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  Speaker 3: coming up on the program is Labor the grinch who
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  Speaker 3: stole Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Australians are doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Tough this festive season, all while the government pushes its
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  Speaker 3: fantastical green ideology over to Washington, where concerns mount over
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  Speaker 3: Elon Musk's influence over the Trump administration. Could his relationship
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  Speaker 3: with the next president be under strain already? And finally,
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  Speaker 3: our exclusive interview with a Jewish host who claims she
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  Speaker 3: was axed from a radio station for refusing to support
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  Speaker 3: Hamas but first Welcome to Australia. At the end of
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, Neo Nazis so emboldened they not only
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  Speaker 3: feel at home spewing their vile jew hatred and bigotry
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  Speaker 3: in public, but on the very steps of the Victorian Parliament,
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  Speaker 3: about twenty of them marched on Spring Street holding a
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  Speaker 3: banner reading Jews Hate Freedom, spouting their menacing message for
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  Speaker 3: close to four minutes.
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  Speaker 2: This country should not belong to the Jews.
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  Speaker 1: That should belong to.
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  Speaker 2: The white Australian people that built it.
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  Speaker 4: White man?
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  Speaker 5: Why man freedom with the white man, freedom for the white.
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  Speaker 2: Man, and just because it's so important.
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  Speaker 3: To expose who these people are.
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  Speaker 2: Here's more from.
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  Speaker 3: A clip the group's leader, Joel Davis posted himself to
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  Speaker 3: X Why does.
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  Speaker 5: The point sent the Australian population the Jews dictate the
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  Speaker 5: story of what now? Freedom?
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  Speaker 4: Should?
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  Speaker 6: It should not be?
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  Speaker 7: I tell you what?
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  Speaker 5: Then?
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  Speaker 4: The money?
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  Speaker 5: Now?
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  Speaker 3: There were brave Australians who stood up to these bigots,
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  Speaker 3: heroes who called out these cowards for what they are.
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  Speaker 3: And I can exclusively reveal tonight Victoria Police have executed
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  Speaker 3: a search warrant at an address in one Turner South
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  Speaker 3: in relation to the anti Semitic sign and a number
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  Speaker 3: of items were seized, Yet no arrests have been made.
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  Speaker 3: Police are still investigating. I have so many questions. Why
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  Speaker 3: didn't Parliament's own security move on these thugs? Why no
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  Speaker 3: arrests after three days? Three days since their leader Joel
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  Speaker 3: Davis helpfully identified himself for authorities. The Australian has described
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  Speaker 3: mister Davis in July as an emerging figure on the
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  Speaker 3: far right whose social media reach had skyrocketed since October seven,
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  Speaker 3: as has his anti Semitism, Yet the police response gave
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  Speaker 3: the impression that catching him and his followers seemed all
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  Speaker 3: a bit too hard.
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  Speaker 2: Security at the Parliament House called for Becker.
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  Speaker 3: And then as soon as the police arrived, the men
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  Speaker 3: all ran off and dispersed into fit through gardens. Even
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  Speaker 3: the Victorian opposition took a swipe, after being too.
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  Speaker 2: Distracted lately with false.
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  Speaker 3: Accusations its own former party member Moira Deeming associates with Nazis.
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  Speaker 1: How is it right that we can have people wander
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  Speaker 1: up the steps of Parliament, roll out of banner your
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  Speaker 1: hatred for over three and a half minutes, wander off
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  Speaker 1: and still be on the streets today.
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  Speaker 8: I was very concerned to see officers not responding to
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  Speaker 8: this in the way we need them to respond.
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  Speaker 3: It's also unclear why federal police haven't taken full carriage
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  Speaker 3: of this despite all the fanfare in Prime Ministers Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Albanesi's big announcement that there would be an anti Semitism
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  Speaker 3: task force earlier this month, following the firebombing of the
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  Speaker 3: Adah Synagogue in Melbourne, as former Treasurer and Australia's most
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  Speaker 3: senior Jewish politician tweeted, this is what Victoria has become.
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  Speaker 3: Days after a synagogue was firebombed, hooded thugs openly promoting
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  Speaker 3: due hate on the steps of our Parliament, this government
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  Speaker 3: has failed yet again to protect our community. It's a
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  Speaker 3: disgrace to truly understand how we got to this point.
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  Speaker 3: As the year draws to a close, we need to
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  Speaker 3: consider how the government has paved the way for these
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  Speaker 3: exact incidents in the past fifteen months. Almost immediately after
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  Speaker 3: the October seven attacks in Israel, the first response from
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  Speaker 3: our Foreign Minister, Pennywong was to urge restraint and protection
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  Speaker 3: of civilian lives. The onus was immediately placed on the
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  Speaker 3: Jewish state, which had just been subjected to the worst
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  Speaker 3: terror attack in its history, and this truly set the
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  Speaker 3: tone for the government's shocking treatment of Israel and its
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  Speaker 3: negligence on the anti Semitism that's been spiraling out of
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  Speaker 3: control since, from the increasingly hostile motions it's supported at
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  Speaker 3: the United Nations to the failure of authorities to act
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  Speaker 3: on Islamic hate preachers, let alone the many other brazen
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  Speaker 3: acts of due hatred and extremism that we've reported right here.
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  Speaker 2: On this network.
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  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister acknowledges statements like from the River to
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  Speaker 3: the Sea of Violent yet the slogan is an outlawed
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  Speaker 3: instead chanted openly tauntingly on the streets of Sydney and
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  Speaker 3: Melbourne weekly and across university campuses for months. Mister Albanezi
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  Speaker 3: announces a tokenistic special envoy for anti Semitism and has
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  Speaker 3: the HOODSPA to announce one for Islamophobia in the same speech.
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  Speaker 2: And he took.
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  Speaker 3: Days to call the fire bombing of the Melbourne Synagogue
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  Speaker 3: a terror attack, and even longer to get to the
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  Speaker 3: scene of the crime. Hey, he was too busy playing
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  Speaker 3: tennis in Perth.
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  Speaker 2: I had six appointments on Saturday.
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  Speaker 6: After they had concluded late in the afternoon, I did
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  Speaker 6: some exercise.
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  Speaker 2: That's what That's what people do.
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  Speaker 3: The Victorian government hasn't been much better. Premierges in to
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  Speaker 3: Allen has also been criticized for taking too long to
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  Speaker 3: respond to the synagogue attack. She was even more reluctant
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  Speaker 3: than the Prime Minister to admit it was terrorism.
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  Speaker 2: And unlike here in New South.
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  Speaker 3: Wales, protesters don't need permits to rally in Victoria, and
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  Speaker 3: they've been doing so often with Hamas and Hezbola symbols
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  Speaker 3: openly displayed for more than a year. Meanwhile, there's been
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  Speaker 3: a three hundred and sixteen percent increase in anti Jewish
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  Speaker 3: incidents in the year to September thirty compared to the
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  Speaker 3: previous year.
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  Speaker 2: More than two.
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  Speaker 3: Thousand incidents have been reported, according to the Executive Council
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  Speaker 3: of Australian Jury.
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  Speaker 2: But why should anyone accept Jews care.
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  Speaker 3: Well, obviously, it's simply the morally right thing to do
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  Speaker 3: to stand up to Nazis and anti Semites. The standard
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  Speaker 3: you walk past is the standard you accept indifference staying silent.
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  Speaker 3: That's how the Holocaust happened. But Jews are the canaries
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  Speaker 3: in the coal mine, these far right and far left thugs,
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  Speaker 3: and they are two sides of the same coin.
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  Speaker 2: First they come for the Jews, then its others.
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  Speaker 3: They hate our freedoms, they hate democracy. They thrive on
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  Speaker 3: social discord and violence. And as detestable and sickening as
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  Speaker 3: Neo Nazis are, at least they don't try to conceal
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  Speaker 3: their jew hatred. They don't hide behind words like Zionists
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  Speaker 3: instead of Jews, Israel instead of Judaism. The least you
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  Speaker 3: can say about them is their honest about their anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 3: and now it's time for our governments to be honest
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  Speaker 3: about how we ended.
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  Speaker 2: Up here in the first place. Well, we've been.
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  Speaker 3: Covering issues of anti Israel bias and terror apologism in
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  Speaker 3: the media for more than a year now, but what
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  Speaker 3: I'm about to reveal on tonight's show is one of
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  Speaker 3: the most extreme examples that I've seen. Nicole was a
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  Speaker 3: radio host for Sydney community radio station skid Row, hosting
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  Speaker 3: a Latino music program in Spanish. She's a Jewish Australian
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  Speaker 3: with Mexican and Israeli heritage. This is what she posted
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  Speaker 3: online on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, everyone, it just came out of a meeting with
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  Speaker 4: Radio skid Row eighty eight point nine FM, Sydney, where
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  Speaker 4: I was doing my radio show. Though it was supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be a station that's all about peace, all about justice,
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  Speaker 4: all about you know, representation, and they basically just told
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  Speaker 4: me that if I cannot support the October seventh attacks
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  Speaker 4: as resistance and as something positive, basically saying also that
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  Speaker 4: it's not true that anybody got killed or burned or anything,
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  Speaker 4: that if I cannot support the hostage.
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  Speaker 9: Is being kept, then I don't align with their values,
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  Speaker 9: and I cannot be there if I cannot support the
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  Speaker 9: fact that Israel doesn't have a right to exist and
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  Speaker 9: that Jews don't have a right to be in Israel,
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  Speaker 9: I can no longer be at their station.
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  Speaker 4: And when I started to cry because I was trying
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  Speaker 4: to have a respectful conversation about agreeing to disagree and
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  Speaker 4: respect each other's views even though I absolutely don't support
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  Speaker 4: terrorism and aggression and murder, today basically told me we
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  Speaker 4: don't appreciate your white women tears.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: It all began when Nicole was called into a meeting
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  Speaker 3: with the station manager on Friday after covering up this
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  Speaker 3: free Palestine sticker on station equipment with a record album
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  Speaker 3: during the recording of one of her shows. When Sky
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  Speaker 3: News contacted station manager Manu Montero, he did not deny
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  Speaker 3: Nicole's claims, simply saying no comment. Today, he sent Nicole
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  Speaker 3: an email saying her actions amount to serious misconduct and
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  Speaker 3: the station have chosen to end the volunteer relationship between
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  Speaker 3: her and skid Row. He's also banned her and her
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  Speaker 3: guests from entering the station indefinitely due to quote our
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  Speaker 3: ongoing concerns for the safety of staff and volunteers. He
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  Speaker 3: reminded her, you have the responsibility to respect the cultural,
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  Speaker 3: racial and religious backgrounds of your co volunteer workers and
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  Speaker 3: to ensure Radio skid Row is a safe and inclusive
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  Speaker 3: workplace for everyone. This Marrickville based radio station is in
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  Speaker 3: Sydney's Inner West, right in the heart of the Prime
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  Speaker 3: Minister's own electorate, and I tell you what it has
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  Speaker 3: some form when it comes to anti Israel hate. It
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  Speaker 3: broadcasts a weekly show called Red Inverted Triangle Resistance Intervadit Taria,
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  Speaker 3: hosted by a Palestinian activist, the red and verted triangle,
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  Speaker 3: of course, being the symbol harmas users for its military targets.
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  Speaker 3: In March, the station's Instagram account published a post glorifying
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian terrorist Laila Khaled, the first woman in the world
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  Speaker 3: to hijack a plane in nineteen sixty nine, before she
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  Speaker 3: went on to participate in another hijacking the next year,
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  Speaker 3: and among many other anti Israel posts, it promoted a
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian rapper wearing an f Israel T shirt on its
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  Speaker 3: airwaves and on social media. Now, for the part that
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  Speaker 3: should outrage you even more, you are helping to pay
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  Speaker 3: for all of this. On its website, skid Row credits
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  Speaker 3: the Community Broadcasting Foundation, which administers millions in federal government
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  Speaker 3: funding every year to community broadcasters. Communications Minister Michelle Roland
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  Speaker 3: declined to comment when we contacted her office today, but
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  Speaker 3: it's understood the government can't direct or influence how the
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  Speaker 3: Foundation awards grants to community broadcasters as it acts independently.
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  Speaker 2: Skid Row also receives.
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  Speaker 3: Support from the City of Sydney Council. A council spokesperson
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  Speaker 3: said the station was awarded a ten thousand dollar lagrant
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  Speaker 3: last year to produce a documentary series, but has no
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  Speaker 3: involvement in the station's day to day operations, adding the
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  Speaker 3: City of Sydney does not tolerate displays of hate or discrimination.
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  Speaker 2: Now for more on.
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  Speaker 3: This story, I'm pleased to say that Nicole joins me. Now, Nicole,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for your time tonight.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you for having me on these unfortunate circumstances.
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  Speaker 3: Now, for full disclosure, I will say that Nicole is
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  Speaker 3: a friend of mine. But any viewer who's been following
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  Speaker 3: the work that I've personally been doing and that Sky
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  Speaker 3: News has been doing over the past fifteen months will
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  Speaker 3: know that this is the type of story we would
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  Speaker 3: cover regardless. Nicole, it was a very upsetting video that
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  Speaker 3: you posted online.
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  Speaker 2: How are you feeling now?
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  Speaker 10: I still can't believe it actually happened the way that
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  Speaker 10: it happened. I'm glad I meet the video because now
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  Speaker 10: I have second guests. Can it even be that what
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  Speaker 10: they do and that room is real, because it's just unbelievable, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't delied.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, as I pointed out your claims, tell me
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  Speaker 3: what happened, because you were invited to this meeting under
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  Speaker 3: the guise of it being a casual discussion with your manager. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I had had my first show that I was hosting
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  Speaker 10: and that was going to be recorded, and while I
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  Speaker 10: had always seen their stickers up in the station, I
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  Speaker 10: assumed it's just one of the many people that use
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  Speaker 10: this movement because they're just they cannot believe what they
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  Speaker 10: see in the news, and they think that they're doing
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  Speaker 10: this to speak up and stand up for something. But
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  Speaker 10: when it was going to be my show, I wanted
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  Speaker 10: to cover those up because I don't represent that, and
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  Speaker 10: I also don't know what my guests are going to feel.
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  Speaker 10: And I did it casually so the manager saw it
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  Speaker 10: when he came into the show and he told me
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  Speaker 10: if I could come in for a chat, and I
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  Speaker 10: told him I was excited to talk to him because
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  Speaker 10: I had been wanting to talk about this for a while.
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  Speaker 10: I was just waiting to get a little bit more
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  Speaker 10: report because I was still at the same it's a
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  Speaker 10: very difficult and nuanced conversation to have. And he said, oh,
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  Speaker 10: don't worry, it's just a casual conversation. He said, there's
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  Speaker 10: going to be a third person in the room, and
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  Speaker 10: I said, well, this doesn't sound casual. That makes me
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  Speaker 10: a bit nervous. He said, you can bring someone to
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  Speaker 10: but don't worry. You have nothing to worry about. It's
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  Speaker 10: just casual. So I went in and my whole shpiel,
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  Speaker 10: everything that I wanted to say was just I'm not
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  Speaker 10: here to talk politics. I'm not here to impose my
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  Speaker 10: views on you or vice versa. I just want to
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  Speaker 10: talk about respect. I'm sorry I covered it up without
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  Speaker 10: talking to you before. I hadn't had the chance. But ultimately,
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  Speaker 10: as a Jewish person who has had family that has
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  Speaker 10: died in the Holocaust, who is being affected now at
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  Speaker 10: this point, there was the woman that was in there
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  Speaker 10: who I had never met before, started laughing at me,
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  Speaker 10: and I was crying because I don't do well with confrontations. Difficult,
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  Speaker 10: and you know, the station manager Manu said nothing about that.
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  Speaker 10: He just let it continue.
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  Speaker 3: And I laughed about you as she was finding how
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  Speaker 3: upset this mighty and about your own families experience with
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  Speaker 3: the whole CAUs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: She also laughed when I said it's because of these
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  Speaker 10: slogans and people using this movement for hate that there's
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  Speaker 10: things like fire bombings in Melbourne and cars being vandalized
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  Speaker 10: and Jewish people feeling uneasy and unsafe in Sydney. And
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  Speaker 10: she continued to laugh and I even asked her, why
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  Speaker 10: are you laughing? And she just never stopped. It never stopped,
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  Speaker 10: so I kept my cool and I just They started
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  Speaker 10: trying to make it political and started saying we don't
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  Speaker 10: stand up for colonialization and if there wasn't it, that's
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  Speaker 10: why we don't have Australian flags, we'd rip it down.
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  Speaker 10: If it was an Israeli flag, we'd rip it down.
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  Speaker 10: They said, we don't believe that Israel has a right
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  Speaker 10: to exist, and that from the river to the sea,
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  Speaker 10: Israel has to be Palestine, and the Jews shouldn't be there,
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  Speaker 10: and you had.
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  Speaker 2: To get on bool with those views as well.
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  Speaker 10: Exactly. That's where I asked them. My husband came in
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  Speaker 10: with me, so he witnessed it, and I was really
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  Speaker 10: caught up. I was hard to think of what to
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  Speaker 10: even say. I couldn't believe they were saying this. And
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  Speaker 10: my husband even said, if she was to stay on
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  Speaker 10: and just do her show, which is about Latin community
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  Speaker 10: connection and not talk about politics and not cover anything up,
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  Speaker 10: could she continue. They said no, she would have to
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  Speaker 10: actively support our cause, speak about it, and attend our rallies.
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  Speaker 10: And they also mentioned that October seventh didn't even happen.
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  Speaker 10: They had their background in the picture of one of
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  Speaker 10: their radiothons. It was the Cafie. I told them, this
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  Speaker 10: is triggering for me. I can't share it with my
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  Speaker 10: Jewish friends. This is what a lot of the terrorists
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  Speaker 10: that came in on October seventh were wearing. They tried
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  Speaker 10: to turn it around on me, telling me that I'm
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  Speaker 10: calling the Kafia terrorists spin my words. I said no,
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  Speaker 10: I said that's what they were wearing. That's when they
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  Speaker 10: started denying October seventh entirely. I said, I can't do that.
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  Speaker 10: I said that I'm not going to stand up for that.
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  Speaker 10: I said that I can't support that, and they basically said,
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  Speaker 10: maybe we could find someone to teach you, and I said,
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  Speaker 10: I'm not here.
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  Speaker 2: To be taught. They wanted to re educate you.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to re educate and Nicott, we're only using
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  Speaker 3: your first name tonight, which you've asked us to do because.
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  Speaker 2: You do feel scared. I why do you feel scared?
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  Speaker 3: And why did you choose to speak out anyway?
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  Speaker 4: I feel scared because what I thought were kind people
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  Speaker 4: who wanted peace and justice and representation, which is what
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  Speaker 4: the station said it was about, turned out to be
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  Speaker 4: the same people that are the ones who are inciting
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  Speaker 4: this sort of violence promoting again. And it was terrifying
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  Speaker 4: to think that you never know who the person next
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  Speaker 4: to you is, especially as a Jewish person in this
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  Speaker 4: climate lately, and I don't know what they're going to do,
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  Speaker 4: like to me with my information. I have two children,
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  Speaker 4: I have a husband, so of course I feel responsibility
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  Speaker 4: to them.
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  Speaker 10: I wouldn't be able to not do this though. I
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  Speaker 10: would not be able to not come and do this
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  Speaker 10: because this is not a world that I want from
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  Speaker 10: my kids and.
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  Speaker 3: We thank you for speaking up. We're out of time,
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  Speaker 3: but I really appreciate it. And it's the courage of
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  Speaker 3: people like Nicole for speaking up about this that we
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  Speaker 3: hear these stories in the first place and are aware
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  Speaker 3: of some of the more extreme elements that are.
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  Speaker 2: In the community.
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  Speaker 3: Now after the break, John Persudo's leadership is in serious
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  Speaker 3: trouble after Liberal contenders emerge for the top job.
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  Speaker 2: Plus Nick Cata's response to Teal MP.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Zally Steggel's energy assessment, he joins me and Kosher.
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  Speaker 2: Garda does as well.
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  Speaker 3: After this, welcome back to Kredlin. Let's turn to Victoria now,
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  Speaker 3: where embattled Liberal leader John Persuto's position is in doubt
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  Speaker 3: after contenders such as state shadow Minister Brad Batten emerge
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  Speaker 3: for the top job. Now this comes after the Liberal
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  Speaker 3: leader backflipped on his decision to refuse ousted MP Moira
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  Speaker 3: Deeming readmission to the party after using his casting vote
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  Speaker 3: last week to essentially keep her locked out. Mister Persuto
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: has now called for a party room meeting to readmit her. Honestly,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it is hard to keep up, so to help me
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: break it all down, let's bring in Menzies Research Centers
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: senior fellow Nick Cata and Sky News contributor Kosher Gada,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Welcome to you both, now, Kosher, do you think John
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Persudo's position is tenable now after all of this.
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: Great to be with the Caroline, It seems that he
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: is certainly in a mess, and I think it's tough
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: to see that it is very tenable. Many would say
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: it's a mess of his own making for a few reasons.
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: It's really multi layered. I think, first and foremost, for
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: the state of Victoria to be in the situation it is,
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: with uncon debts and deficits most lockdown city on Earth,
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: culture wars, and everything else, were so many serious problems
• 21:06
  Speaker 11: and fundamental issues that the Liberal Party has and should
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: be going after, and instead he's wound up in the
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: circular firing squad going after one of his own with
• 21:14
  Speaker 11: the home more redeeming saga. The second is when she
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: won the defamation lawsuit, it just didn't make sense. It
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: was a logically incoherent for him to then cast that
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: deciding vote to keep her out when she won the
• 21:26
  Speaker 11: very lawsuit that was the basis of why he expelled
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: her to begin with. And the third is just the
• 21:30
  Speaker 11: personal objects. You know, that's a big deal in politics,
• 21:32
  Speaker 11: and the wishy washings and flip flopping that he's demonstrated.
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: It's often hard for political leaders to come back from
• 21:38
  Speaker 11: that because it just signals a lot of weakness and
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: lack of clarity and is thinking, well, look.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: It just seems vengeful when he used his casting vote
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: to basically keep her out, because at that point he
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: should have just been like, owned his mistake, the decision
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: was against him in the court and just readmit her.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: But Nick, what do you make of this whole debacle.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: It's just been circus for the Victorian Liberals and in
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: that time has distracted them from being able to provide
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: any real alternative government there.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: Look, I mean John Basuto has failed the leadership test.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: He failed it from the very start on this issue,
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: and it got worse and worse. I mean, the idea
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: you pursue this defamation proceedings in court without when he
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: could have settled beforehand, is ludicrous. I just don't know
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: what is going on in the man's head. And now
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: he's going to stretch it out even further by pushing
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: it into next year. I think for the best thing
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: for the Party, and the best thing for Victoria incidentally,
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: because they need a strong competitive opposition. The best thing
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: is he just steps away before Christmas and just puts
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: it a whole chapter behind the party and they can
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: get on with the real job, because which is trying
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: to defeat the Labor government.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Look, speaking of new look parties and alternative governments, Peter
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Dunden is set to unveil his new look front bench
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: after Christmas and made a push from Conservative MPs for
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: greater representation among senior ranks.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Kosher, who do.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: You think deserves a promotion to the front bench?
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: You know, I would just take a big picture look
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: at this, Carolina. I think it should be people that
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: first of all represent the constituency of the Liberal Party,
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: because there's all this discussion of the two people that
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: are retiring that's leading to this reshuffle there for more
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: of the moderate faction, and so there's thinking of sticking
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: with more moderates. That's I think an outdated framework Moderate
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: versus Conservative doesn't really track with where the constituency is.
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: It should be someone who's good at that, somebody who
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: brings I think a little bit more contrast to the
• 23:45
  Speaker 11: other side because there's definitely this increasing feeling that the
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: Liberal Party is different, but not sufficiently different, not offering
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: sufficiently contrasting positions to the very serious problems facing the
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: nation versus labor. And then the third in just this
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: era that we live in, somebody that is good at
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: communication and television and reclaiming and reframing narratives. So there's
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: a few names out there. I wouldn't want to get
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: in front of it, but people that take those three
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: boxes should be his driving factor.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Well, Nick Kosher has been very diplomatic there, But do
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: you have any names in mind for who you.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Would like to see on the front bench in the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: new year?
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: Look at it be unfair, it would be unfair. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: think there's a number of talented members who are often
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: some in their first term, so they need that experience
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: behind them. Who will make excellent cabinet ministers. I must say,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: for me, the big question here is who Peter Dutton
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: pickses his new Foreign minister shadow foreign minister, because we've
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: got Simon Birmingham is stepping down. This is crucial, This
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: is absolutely crucial because right now we have a foreign
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Minister who is the most dangerous, the most reckless foreign
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: minister I've ever experienced in my time Australia, and it
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: is vital that we have a strong candidate to replace
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: her at the next election, hopefully, because we cannot allow
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: Australia's foreign policy to be dragged through the mud as
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: it is at the moment.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, both of you very diplomatic there. I will
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: throw in a few names. I think James Pattison would
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: make a great foreign minister, a shadow for Rohmnist, although
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: he's great on chadawhome affairs as well. Maybe Dave Shama,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Julian Lia. They've been really strong, especially on the issues
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: to do with the Middle East. Now let's move on
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: to a piece that you wrote, Nick on the Skyinese
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: website in response to Zali Stegel's concept of base load power,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: which in her own words she's called antiquated and old fashioned. Nick,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you wrote, this is the real world which MPs like
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Stegel are prepared to ignore. Base load power cannot be
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: imagined away. And if Stegel wants us to stop burning
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: coal and gas, nuclear and is the only energy source.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Capable of holding up the.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Grid, Nick, can you tell us why her mindset is
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: so problematic.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: I was astounded by a comment it just shows a
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: complete energy illiteracy. I would cor it really have put
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: it that way, because you know, there is no grid
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: in the world that I've come across that is running
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: on one hundred percent renewables, with the possible exception of Norway,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: but then they've got so much hydro electricity they don't
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: know what to do with it. We don't have that.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: So every country has a baseload power source because you
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: need it. And I noticed the other morning, when I
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: was actually writing this piece, you can go on to
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: a emo's app and it'll tell you in real time
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: what's who's burning what in which state. We were ninety
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: two percent coal at that point in New South Wales.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Now Zali Stek was saying, we don't need baseload because
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: what is coal, it's spaceload. What we're going to replace
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: that ninety two percent with. She's just I think, not
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: across the detail here, and it's extremely worrying because she
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: and the other teals could be extremely influential in this
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: debate if there was a hung Parliament.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Now to some news very close to home, in a
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: landmark deal worth three point four billion dollars. News Corp
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: subscription giant Foxtel has been sold to British sports network
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: DOES own now. This marks the end of news corpse
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: long running ownership of Foxtel. It's set to shake up
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Australia's media and sports landscape. Kosher, what are your thoughts
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: on this new ownership.
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: Yes, I think the name of the game in the
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: media industry globally in Australia is no exception is skill
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: because it's time that we live in. You're competing against
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: both traditional media giants and really the new digital giants,
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: the Amazon's and netflixes of the world that have hundreds
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: and hundreds of millions of eyeballs coming to their platform
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: every month. And the only way to really compete against
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: platforms with that scale and be able to afford the
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: very expensive sports rights, which is what DOES owns bread
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: and butter is as well as other content rights, is
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: to see more consolidation and so, barring regulatory approvals, which
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: will take some time, but everybody expects they're going to
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: go through. This is the kind of thing that you're
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: going to expect to see globally and within the Australian landscape.
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: It's certainly an expected broadly speaking, but a shakeup in
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: the landscape because Foxtel has been sort of a feature
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: and fixture over here. It's not going to change the
• 28:31
  Speaker 11: day to day experience of consumers of Foxtel, but it's
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: now going to be part of this bigger global conglomerate.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Well, it will be interesting to see what happens, if
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: only from our perspective. Is Sky News a personnel here,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: but we assure you will keep bringing those stories at
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: home and those opinions too.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Sydney Stardus could miss out on the city's famous
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: New Year's Eve fireworks after the new South Wells government
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: has threatened to cancel the event should union workers carry
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: out its threatened strike. Here was Premier Chris Men's today.
• 29:06
  Speaker 12: At some point the union leadership has to say, well,
• 29:08
  Speaker 12: we've been given a fair offer.
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: We can't hold the people of Sydney hostage.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Nick.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Aren't you just so sick of these union strikes? Is
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: there anything they won't hijack?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Now it's the fireworks, that's right.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: And it's strange, isn't it. These things always tend to
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: happen under labor governments. I think the unions think they
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: can try it on and get away with it. The
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: labor government. I think it's disgraceful behavior by the union.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: I think the New South Wales government has no option
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: but to cancel the fireworks because it would be dangerous
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: and impossible to get people in and out of the city,
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: certainly out after the fireworks without public transport. I mean,
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: I'll take my hat off to you know, the bus drivers,
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: the ferry drivers, the train drivers who have to work
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: through the night, probably with penalties, but that's their job
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: and can they Are they committed to their fellow citizens
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: or do they just want a few extra dollars in
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: their own pocket and they'll do anything to keep it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: I think it's disgraceful behavior by the unions and I'm
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: glad that Chris Mins is at least showing he's prepared
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: to stand up to this.
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: Well.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Hopefully they will still be able to go ahead and
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Sydney Siders will be able to enjoy them in full.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Neck Kocher, thank you both for your time, and I
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: hope you both have a wonderful New Year and a merry.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Christmas as well.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Now, after the break, concerns mount over how much power
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk has in the Trump administration. Political journalist John
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Fund will join me next. Welcome back to the program.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Let's turn to Washington now, where Elon Musk is already
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: causing a stir with people questioning how much influence the
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: billionaire will actually have on Trump's administration. This comes after
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Musk torpedoes Speaker of the House Mike Johnson's initial end
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: of you measure to extend government funding. Joining me now
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: is political journalist John Fund. John, Great to see you.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Trump actually responded to the scrutiny around Mask.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: He is on that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: Good.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: It saved a lot of lives.
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: So we want to thank him.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: But no, he's not going to be president. That I
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: can tell you, and I'm safe.
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: You know why he can't be.
• 31:26
  Speaker 14: He wasn't born in this country.
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: Ah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Now, because of Mask's intervention, the US government almost went
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: into shutdown.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: What did you make of all of this?
• 31:38
  Speaker 14: Well, first of all, a government shutdown in the US
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: is not really a shutdown. Almost everything continues as before. Secondly,
• 31:45
  Speaker 14: Elon Musk did complicate matters because he opposed the original
• 31:49
  Speaker 14: bill that Speaker Johnson and the House had proposed. However,
• 31:54
  Speaker 14: despite all of the anger and the controversy. We ended
• 31:59
  Speaker 14: up in a better place than we would have been
• 32:00
  Speaker 14: if we passed that original bill. The bill is skinnier,
• 32:04
  Speaker 14: i e. Cheaper than it was, and Elon Musk can
• 32:07
  Speaker 14: take some credit for it. Now is it unorthodox for
• 32:10
  Speaker 14: a billionaire to intervene?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 32:13
  Speaker 14: Yes, On the other end, he wasn't the only one
• 32:14
  Speaker 14: interviewing intervening. Millions of Americans contacted their members of Congress.
• 32:19
  Speaker 14: Elon Musk was just the transmission belt through Twitter for
• 32:23
  Speaker 14: them to learn what was in a fifteen hundred page
• 32:26
  Speaker 14: bill that no one had the time to read. And
• 32:29
  Speaker 14: I think it showed that While Elon Musk may be
• 32:32
  Speaker 14: causing Donald Trump's some difficulty because of all the attention
• 32:35
  Speaker 14: He's getting, I think Trump appreciates the power that Elon
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: using Twitter can have, which, when it's combined with Donald
• 32:42
  Speaker 14: Trump's ability to threaten Republicans with primary challenges, is what
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: I call a force multiplier.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, Trump is sadly no stranger to using
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Twitter or x now as it's called himself. So in
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: that respect, I guess there's not too much difference between
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: the two, is there.
• 33:00
  Speaker 14: Well, Donald Trump does have a habit of falling out
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: with friends. The Democrats are just predicting. You know, it's
• 33:07
  Speaker 14: only a matter of time before they rub each other
• 33:09
  Speaker 14: the wrong way. On the other hand, in the first
• 33:12
  Speaker 14: one hundred days of the Trump administration, almost all of
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: what's going to come up is stuff they agree on,
• 33:18
  Speaker 14: government efficiency, government cutbacks, or at least reductions in the
• 33:23
  Speaker 14: rate of growth of spending. And I think that we're
• 33:26
  Speaker 14: going to see them dancing together peacefully for quite some time.
• 33:31
  Speaker 14: If there's a breakup, it'll be later in the year.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we'll see what happens in your predictions whether
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: they come true.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Trump's controversial peak for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: He's still facing a.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Tough battle for confirmation, with senators now pushing to see
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: his FBI background check. John, do you think that Pete
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Hegseth will make it to confirmation and be confirmed.
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: It's unclear. He's done a fairly good job visiting senators
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: and calming some of their concerns. However, there's a lot
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: that's out there, and the hearing is on January fourteenth.
• 34:11
  Speaker 14: They're usually in a controversial nomination like this, as it
• 34:14
  Speaker 14: was with Brett Kavanaugh, who was nominated for the Supreme
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: Court in twenty seventeen. There's usually a last minute surprise.
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: When Brett Kavanaugh appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee, there
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: was a break in the normal procedure that only senior
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: senators got to look at the FBI background check. Other
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: senators were allowed to look. I think that is going
• 34:35
  Speaker 14: to happen with this. There's several senators who say they
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: don't want to vote a pdeg seth until they find
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: out what the FBI has learned, and in this case,
• 34:43
  Speaker 14: for something as conventional as just checking into someone's background.
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: I think the FBI still has a good reputation, so
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: I don't think they've been completely discredited in that regard.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Look, how long can we expect this process to take,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: because there's been a lot of discussion about Pete Heggs.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: But when do you think we might see his confirmation happen,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: or that at least the confirmation hearing.
• 35:08
  Speaker 14: I think it's unlikely that he will be confirmed before
• 35:10
  Speaker 14: January twentieth, when Donald Trump takes office. These things always
• 35:14
  Speaker 14: take longer than you predict if the nomination is controversial.
• 35:20
  Speaker 14: I believe it's a fifty to fifty debt right now
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: that peak head Seth is confirmed because, as a previous
• 35:28
  Speaker 14: cabinet official once said, there are known unknowns and there
• 35:32
  Speaker 14: are unknown unknowns out there, and there's more to probably
• 35:36
  Speaker 14: come on Pete egg Seth, whether or not he can
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: combat it as a separate story.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, we'll be watching all the way from here now.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Since the election campaign started, Trump has vowed to protect
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: women's spaces, in particular keeping biological males out of women's sports.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Here's some of what he's had to say on that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: With a stroke of my pen on day one, We're
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: going to stop the transgender lunacy and.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: We will keep men out of women's sports.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: How has all of this been received in America? Do
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you expect to see protests after he is inaugurated?
• 36:18
  Speaker 14: Oh, I'm sure there will be protests, but nothing like
• 36:21
  Speaker 14: there would have been five years ago. Most Americans do
• 36:25
  Speaker 14: not believe the trans issue is the most important thing
• 36:28
  Speaker 14: facing the country or even in the first few slots.
• 36:32
  Speaker 14: In addition, the basic rights of trans people are protected.
• 36:37
  Speaker 14: We're talking about things which, shall we say, a little
• 36:41
  Speaker 14: unusual and a little different than most civil rights that
• 36:44
  Speaker 14: we discussed in the United States. And finally, things have
• 36:48
  Speaker 14: moved five years ago. This week was the week that
• 36:53
  Speaker 14: JK Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter book series,
• 36:55
  Speaker 14: the most popular book series in modern history, first sent
• 37:00
  Speaker 14: out her tweet saying sex is sex, gender is gender,
• 37:03
  Speaker 14: and people should go to the bathroom that birth dictated. Well,
• 37:08
  Speaker 14: you know what. She was pillaried, she was boycotted, she
• 37:11
  Speaker 14: was smeared, but she's standing tall and she's basically been vindicated.
• 37:16
  Speaker 14: In Britain, there's been a wholesale retreat on gender reassignment
• 37:20
  Speaker 14: surgery being mandated or tolerated, and I believe that the
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: same thing is happening in America. So I think this issue,
• 37:28
  Speaker 14: while it certainly gets a lot of clicks on the Internet,
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: has largely been resolved. We're going to give trans people rights,
• 37:35
  Speaker 14: but we're not going to basically deny biological science and
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: basically promote theories that simply don't bear out.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting you mentioned five years. I didn't know
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: that since J.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: K Rowling made that momentous tweet. It's only a very
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: different situation in Australia with our laws here. But I
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: think you're right there has been a shift over there.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: It's hard to remember that Trump isn't president. Yet with
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: all this John not only due to the command he's
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: taken on US and foreign politics already, but also because well,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden is simply missing in action. Here's what the
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: White House Press secretary said about that.
• 38:14
  Speaker 15: That is the next time that people.
• 38:15
  Speaker 13: Will hear from the president.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into hypotheticals. What type of
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: response was that.
• 38:25
  Speaker 14: I've never heard anything like that from the Post White House.
• 38:29
  Speaker 14: The Wall Street Journal last week had a thirty eight
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  Speaker 14: hundred word piece heavily documented, basically showing that the cover
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  Speaker 14: up of Joe Biden's infirmities and cognition problems began the
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  Speaker 14: day he took office. And I'm just astonished at the
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  Speaker 14: media's inability to go back and re examine their behavior.
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  Speaker 14: How they let this happen. We all most at a
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  Speaker 14: situation where the country elected a president who would have
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  Speaker 14: been manifestly incapable of responding in a crisis. There's no
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  Speaker 14: one right now. I think, looking at Joe Biden and
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  Speaker 14: the rare sightings we've seen him in the last few weeks,
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  Speaker 14: that think that he could have served a second term
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  Speaker 14: as president, I think there has to be a reckoning here.
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  Speaker 14: This is one of the major reasons that people in
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  Speaker 14: the twenty twenty four election voted for Donald Trump because
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  Speaker 14: they said, if the media will lie about something this
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  Speaker 14: important the fitness of someone for office, what else are
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  Speaker 14: they lying to us about?
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  Speaker 3: So true and just as to be said, for the record,
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  Speaker 3: we certainly didn't lie about it here on sky Ney's Australia.
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  Speaker 3: We told it to people straight right from the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: John Fund, thank you for your time tonight and as always,
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  Speaker 3: thank you. After the break is labor the grinch who
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  Speaker 3: stole Christmas and the winners and loss of twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: four as we look back to the year that was,
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program. Now we're not in this
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  Speaker 3: job for the thanks. Here at sky New our job
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  Speaker 3: is to report the truth and present opinions without fear
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  Speaker 3: or favor. But hey, it sure is nice to be acknowledged,
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  Speaker 3: especially when so much of the mainstream media has exhibited
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  Speaker 3: such a strong anti Israel bias. So it was humbling
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  Speaker 3: to see this video today from leading Jewish advocates to all.
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  Speaker 15: Those who have been the beacons of moral clarity and
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  Speaker 15: truth telling over the last year, particularly the journalists from
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  Speaker 15: Sky News Australia and the Australian Newspaper.
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  Speaker 8: We see you, we hear.
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  Speaker 10: You, and we thank you.
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  Speaker 15: To everyone at Sky News Australia and the Australian Newspaper,
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  Speaker 15: I want to say.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you for your professionalism and for your integrity.
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  Speaker 8: If there would be an a warrant from Media of
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  Speaker 8: the Year, I would like to nominate Sky News Team
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  Speaker 8: Australia and The Australian Newspaper as the Journalists of the Year.
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  Speaker 16: For their unparalleled level of speaking the truth.
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  Speaker 8: You guys rock.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone who have been truth tellers over
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  Speaker 3: the past year, especially the journalists as Sky News Australia
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  Speaker 3: and Australian Newspaper.
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  Speaker 13: I want to thank the team that Sky News Australia
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  Speaker 13: and The Australian for their first class reporting and for
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  Speaker 13: shining a light on the sinister rise of antisemitism.
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  Speaker 4: In this country.
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  Speaker 15: I'm sending this message to express my heartfelt gratitude for
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  Speaker 15: the exceptional journalism and unwaving support for the Jewish community
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  Speaker 15: you have shown in the past twelve months now.
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  Speaker 3: The clip follows a recent visit from News Called chairman
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  Speaker 3: emeritus Rupert Murdoch and his wife Elena chan Lachlan Murdoch
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  Speaker 3: and his wife Sarah to Central Synagogue in Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Chief Rabbi Levi Wolfe again.
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  Speaker 16: Over the last fourteen months, it feels like we have
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  Speaker 16: been living in a world that has completely gone mad.
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  Speaker 16: But just when I think the world has gone ms Sugar,
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  Speaker 16: as they say, I turn on Sky News Australia and.
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  Speaker 5: My faith in humanity is restored. There is a voice
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  Speaker 5: of reason that it's verberated. That voice of reason is
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  Speaker 5: thanks to.
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  Speaker 16: The extraordinary man that we are honored to have here today.
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  Speaker 5: In mister Rupert Murdoch and his wife Elena.
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  Speaker 3: And Rupert Murdoch expressed the deep gratitude I know so
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  Speaker 3: many of us here at Sky News Australia feel for
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  Speaker 3: the support we get from you, our viewers.
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  Speaker 7: Chuck, Rabbi and all you here today. So men came
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  Speaker 7: up today to express their thanks. I feel really humble
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  Speaker 7: part Israel in the last four years has been alone
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  Speaker 7: on the front line of Western democratic chevialization, leading them
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  Speaker 7: in church. I just pray starting another month in America
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  Speaker 7: gets back. Thank you so much. It's been a great
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  Speaker 7: pleasure meeting so many old friends and new ones. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: As we say amen to that and it's an honor
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  Speaker 3: to work at Sky News and a privilege to be
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  Speaker 3: one of the truth tellers. Now let's head back to Victoria,
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  Speaker 3: where in battle Liberal leader John Persuito is set to
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  Speaker 3: face a major test within his own party as other
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  Speaker 3: leadership contenders emerge. Joining me now is Sky News contributor
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  Speaker 3: Roco Loissano.
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  Speaker 7: Rocco.
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  Speaker 2: I know I've just mispronounced your.
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  Speaker 3: Name horribly there and I didn't know how to say it,
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  Speaker 3: so apologies.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you the chance to correct me on air.
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  Speaker 3: But do you think Persuito's leadership is in real trouble here?
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  Speaker 12: Oh? No, worries it all, Carolyn, you deverial. Look, he's
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  Speaker 12: he's in big, big trouble. And it's very said. Not
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  Speaker 12: only did he lose on all five points according to
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  Speaker 12: the judgment that was issued in favor of MOI redeeming,
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  Speaker 12: but he stood up against one of the great moral
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  Speaker 12: causes of our time. And we see in America, we
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  Speaker 12: saw Donald Trump today say that he's going to make
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  Speaker 12: sure on the first day he signs his executive orders
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  Speaker 12: ending this transgender lunacy. Yet in Australia we're way behind
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  Speaker 12: and trying to the Liberals in Victoria for the last
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  Speaker 12: ten years have been scared of their own shadow, scared
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  Speaker 12: of trying to stand up to Daniel Andrews, scared of
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  Speaker 12: trying to appease people who will who will never vote
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  Speaker 12: for them, And this is where it's ended up.
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  Speaker 2: Thankfully.
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  Speaker 12: It looks like there are people in the Liberal Party
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  Speaker 12: who standing up for what is right and it's the
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  Speaker 12: pig hiddenist that, as Peter Crilin called on behalf of
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  Speaker 12: John Bersuda to try and save his own leadership has
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  Speaker 12: been extraordinary.
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  Speaker 1: Look.
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  Speaker 12: I refer to another Victorian Liberal in John Gordon, who
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  Speaker 12: when half of the party were in voted against him,
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  Speaker 12: knew his town was up as leader, and he cast
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  Speaker 12: a vote against himself. And I think that's probably the
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  Speaker 12: way John Bosuto is going to go. And congratulations to
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  Speaker 12: Morow Deeming.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, let's.
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  Speaker 3: See what happens in the new year when this meeting
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  Speaker 3: is actually called. I dare say he may not be
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  Speaker 3: around for long now. Staying in Victoria, I spoke at
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  Speaker 3: the top of the show about there's appalling rise in
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitism that's unfortunately been allowed.
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  Speaker 2: To festa in this country.
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  Speaker 3: Men dressed in black clothing and Balaklava's held up a
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  Speaker 3: neo Nazi sign outside the Parliament House in Melbourne's CBD.
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  Speaker 2: Not even a.
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  Speaker 3: Month has passed, Rocko since we witnessed the horrific terror
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  Speaker 3: attack on the Adas Israel Synagogue. It's all just so sickening.
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  Speaker 3: But when are we going to see real action being
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  Speaker 3: taken against such hate.
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  Speaker 12: Well, the government has had fourteen months to try and
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  Speaker 12: take a reelection, Carolyn. I mean I said last week
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  Speaker 12: and I'll say it again, it should have happened on
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  Speaker 12: October the ninth after Sydney Opera House. We have not
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  Speaker 12: seen one hate preacher deported. We've not seen one hate
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  Speaker 12: preacher prosecuted for saying things like October the seven was
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  Speaker 12: a day of joy and ad to a day to
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  Speaker 12: be proud of. Unfortunately, we've got laws at the moment
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  Speaker 12: against hate speech which are not being applied, and we've
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  Speaker 12: seen neo Nazis, but we've also seen in the same
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  Speaker 12: breath people took politicians and leaders talk about anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 12: but in the same breath try and talk about Islamophobia,
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  Speaker 12: which I believe is a non existent concept. So until
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  Speaker 12: we get some kind of backbone and spine from a
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  Speaker 12: leaders who are prepared to act on this. We're going
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  Speaker 12: to keep seeing these kind of sad incidents which I
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  Speaker 12: never thought in my lifetime i'd see in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, you know, just to pick up your point,
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  Speaker 3: I think they've certainly been some incidents of racism and
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  Speaker 3: hatred towards members of the Islamic community. To equate the
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  Speaker 3: two types of hatred, especially over the past fifteen months,
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  Speaker 3: I think has been a massive failure on the government.
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  Speaker 2: Look, let's move.
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  Speaker 3: On now to the fact that we are now two
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  Speaker 3: nights away from Christmas, and while it's a season of
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  Speaker 3: joy and festivities, Australians are finding it a bit hard
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  Speaker 3: rocko to get into the spirit with rising power bills
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  Speaker 3: and this enduring cost of living crisis. And yet the
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  Speaker 3: Albanesi government's priorities still don't seem to align with voters
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  Speaker 3: as it persists on pushing this green ideology after pledging
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  Speaker 3: seven hundred million dollars in extra funding to fuel a
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  Speaker 3: new power plant entirely with green hydrogen, yet it's failed
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  Speaker 3: to deliver on its own promise. A rocco, even the
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister can't commit to his own pursuits.
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  Speaker 12: No, and look, The evidence around the world is in
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  Speaker 12: on this net zero insanity. I mean, in Denmark last
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  Speaker 12: month there was an auction for offshore wind and there
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  Speaker 12: were no bidders because there were no governance subsidies. On
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  Speaker 12: other we've had a Germany, the German government fall over
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  Speaker 12: on the basis of this net zera madness, which has
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  Speaker 12: caused a recession in Germany, and just last week Volkswagen
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  Speaker 12: had to sack ten thousand people because of rising energy costs.
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  Speaker 12: This government is living in an ideological parallel universe to
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  Speaker 12: the rest of us. And don't forget this is the
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  Speaker 12: same government that tried to divide us from the basis
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  Speaker 12: of race and tried to spend and spent indeed nearly
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  Speaker 12: half a billion dollars doing it. So their priorities are
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  Speaker 12: not where every day working Australians priorities are, and hopefully
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  Speaker 12: at the next election Australians will see that and vote accordingly.
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  Speaker 3: Look very quickly, Rocko, because we're going to have to
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  Speaker 3: own the show soon. But give me your look back
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  Speaker 3: of the year. That was who is your big winner?
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  Speaker 3: Who is your big loser?
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  Speaker 12: Well, the big winner undoubtedly is Donald Trump. But through him,
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  Speaker 12: hopefully we see a victory for freedom for common sense.
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  Speaker 12: We get a tree for common sense out of that,
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  Speaker 12: and the loser, hopefully that will be corporate and governmental
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  Speaker 12: overlords who with their work ideology, are continuing to divide us.
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  Speaker 12: But the silent majority, if it stays silent, will no
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  Speaker 12: longer remain majority. So even though we've had a big
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  Speaker 12: victory of sorts in twenty twenty four, the fight definitely
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  Speaker 12: isn't over.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope.
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  Speaker 3: So Okay, Rocco Leocano, thank you so much for your time,
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  Speaker 3: and Merry Christmas to you.
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  Speaker 2: That is it for me. Tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Next is the Bolt Report with James McPherson, and you'll
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  Speaker 3: see me here again right on this set tomorrow night
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  Speaker 3: at six o'clock. Thank you for your company tonight, and
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  Speaker 3: have a wonderful Christmas week