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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 15) (5/16/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're gonna pick right back up where
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  we left off with the Galain Maxwell deposition, So let's
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  get right back to it. McCauley, Is it an obvious
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  lie you had sex toys in Jeffrey Epstein's pom Beach house.
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  Mister Pakliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  can you repeat the question, McCauley, Is it an obvious
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  lie that you had sex toys in Jeffrey Epstein's pom
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  Beach house. Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  did Virginia say that? McCauley, I'm asking you a question.
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  Is it an obvious lie that you had sex toys
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  in Jeffrey Epstein's house? Maxwell? I don't recall any sex
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  toys McCauley. If someone said you had sex toys, would
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  that be an obvious lie? Mister Pagliuca objection to the
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  form and the found Maxwell, Like I said, can you
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  be more specific about the house or whatever? What exactly
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  you are referring to? What's a sex toy? McCauley, Yes,
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  How would you define a sex toy? Maxwell, No, I
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  need you to define a sex toy. I don't have
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  enough knowledge of sex toys. Oh yeah, I'm sure McCauley.
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  I will define it based on the Dictionary's definition, which
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  is an object or a device used to sexually stimulate
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  or enhance sexual pleasure. Maxwell. What's your question, please, McCauley.
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  The question is is it an obvious lie that you
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  had sex toys in Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach house. Mister Pagliuca,
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  Sam objection. McCauley, you can answer Maxwell like I said,
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  I do not have any recollection of sex toys in
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  Jeffrey's house. McCauley, is it a lie? Is it an
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  obvious lie that you took pictures of nude girls? Pagliuca
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  object to the full and the foundation. Maxwell. We already
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  covered this girls. We are not referring to. I can
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  only testify to taking pictures of adult people, and I
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  already testified they are not nude per se. That every
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  picture that I ever took, and which they were very limited,
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  always by request the people would be covered, or it
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  would be a hand or a foot. There were never
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  any pictures that I took of people that would only
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  have been in mainstream type of magazines, and any photos
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  I took could have been very happily then expected to
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  be displayed on your parent's mantlepiece or grandparents mantlepiece. Talk
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  about a bunch of bs. I guess if you're taking
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  pictures of naked little girls and your grandparents are you
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  know Lord mount Batten and Jimmy Savell McAuley. Is it
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  a lie that you approach females to bring them to
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  Jeffrey Epstein? Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the Foundation? Maxwell, Well,
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  can you please ask the question again? McCauley, sure, is
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  it a lie that you approach females to bring them
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  to Jeffrey Epstein? Maxwell? I don't know what you're asking me, McCauley.
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  I'm asking you if it's a lie that you approach
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  females to bring them to Jeffrey Epstein. Mister Pagliuca objection
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  to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell, you are not
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  asking me a good question. Sorry, McCauley. You don't get
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  to choose the questions. Maxwell. I would like to answer
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  your questions, but you are not asking me a question
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  that I can answer. McCauley, What about that is causing
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  you pause when you can't answer the question. Maxwell, you
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  are trying to trap me, and that's not fair. So
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  I already testified that I hire people across the board.
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  So I would hire architects, decorators, pool people, exercise instructors, gardeners,
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  cook chefs, cleaning people. So I, in the course of
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  a very long time, when I would hire people, I
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  hired people to work for Jeffrey. Well, I'm happy to
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  testify to hiring people for every possible, conceivable, proper job
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  that you could conceive of within the context of Jeffrey's
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  life and home. McAuley. Is it a lie that you
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  approach females to bring them to Jeffrey Epstein for the
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  purpose of performing massages? Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form
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  and the foundation. Maxwell, Again, I have already testified to
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  that part of the job that I had to hire
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  lots of different types of people in terms of whatever
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  very small part of my job, Jeffrey enjoyed getting massages.
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  I think that is something we can all agree in
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  this room, and within the context of that, very infrequently
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  I would go to spas and myself happily receive a
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  professional non sexual massage from a man and or from
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  a woman, and if that massage was something that I
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  thought was something that was good, I would ask if
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  that man or woman would come back and does home visits. Yeah,
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  how many men did you have running around the house there,
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  Elaine Maxwell? If that person said that they did, they
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  would sometimes come from time to time, but not always
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  come back to the house to perform a non sexual,
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  professional male or female massage. McCauley, were any of the
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  exercise instructors you hired under the age of eighteen? Maxwell? Again,
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  I don't hire We've already established that I don't hire people.
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  I interview people to see if they are competent in
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  the job that they do and or whether they are
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  someone who seemed that they do home visits. At that
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  point where I can think that there is somebody that
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  has can either be whatever the job may be, pull gardner,
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  chef and or exercise instructor, and I think that they
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  could be good at whatever it is, at whatever skill
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  that they had, and they did a home visit, which
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  would obviously be mandatory, and mister Epstein would meet them
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  and decide if you wanted to have whatever skill it
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  was that he would do, and then he would then
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  either have them come back or hire them. Talk about
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  word salad. McCauley. Were there any exercise instructors that worked
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  at the home that were under the age of eighteen?
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, Again,
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  I keep coming back to this that the people that
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  I employed, or not the right word, the people I
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  would meet to come and work at the house under
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  any guys whatsoever. Again from any of the many positions
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  that I filled, were all over We're all adults McCauley.
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  When you say adults over the age of eighteen, Maxwell,
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  I think we can establish what adult would be. McCauley.
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  You never interviewed or I know you don't want people
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  to use the word hired. Whatever your role was, you
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  brought in an exercise instructor that was under the age
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  of eighteen to work at the house. Mister Pagliuca object
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  to the form and the foundation. Maxwell. I have already
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  testified that what I was responsible for was to find
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  people who had competencies in whatever area I was looking for.
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  The competencies I was looking for were professional and adult McCauley.
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  So there was no exercise instructor that worked at the
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  Palm Beach House, or the New York House, or the
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  New Mexico House or the USVII under the age of eighteen,
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  Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I can only testify to when I was at the house. McCauley, Yes, Maxwell,
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  I can only testify to the years when I was present. McCauley, right, Maxwell,
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  And I can only testify to people I personally either
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  met and or work with and or invited. To find
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  the correct word, I don't know what the correct word
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  is to come do exercise or whatever it was at
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  the house of the people that I male or female,
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  that I brought were all appropriate and age appropriate adults
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  McCauley over the age of eighteen. Maxwell. We've established them
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  as an adults McCauley. So are you saying appropriate adults?
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  So we are clear you didn't hire or bring in
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  or know of any exercise instructors that were under the
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  age of eighteen at any of those homes. Maxwell, I
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  am also testifying that when I was present at the
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  house and with the people that I brought in were
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  all age appropriate adults. McCauley. How do you define age
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  appropriate adults? Is that over the age of eighteen? Can
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  we agree to that? Mister Pagliuca objection to the form
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  and the foundation. McCauley, Are they under the age of eighteen? Maxwell?
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  We already established that you can be a massuse in
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  Florida at age seventeen. That does not make it inappropriate. McCauley.
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  I'm not saying appropriate or inappropriate. I'm just asking if
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  there were any exercise instructors that were under the age
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  of eighteen. Maxwell. I am not aware if anybody was,
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  but I don't want to full out and say you oh,
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  she said, we already established you can be a seventeen
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  year old massuse and have it not be something that
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  is not appropriate. Have we really established that though? I
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  mean because you say it, galein Maxwell doesn't make it true.
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  How many of you out there have had a massage
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  before professionally? How many of those messuses we're seventeen. No
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  need to answer that question. I already know the answer.
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  So when you say that and then you go, well,
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  you come back and say something. Now we can establish
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  that Virginia was seventeen, but you can be a seventeen
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  year old legal massuse, but I am not aware. To
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  your point, McCauley, who are the other seventeen year old
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  messuses that you were aware of? Maxwell, I'm not aware
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  of any. McCauley. Were there any sixteen year old messuses
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  that you were aware of? Maxwell? I am not aware, McCauley,
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  any fifteen year olds. Maxwell, I just want to be clear.
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  The only person that I I'm aware of who claims
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  to have been uh, we have to we establish Virginia
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  now is seventeen, given she has changed her age so
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  many times. The only person that I'm aware of that
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  was a masseuse at the time when I was president
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  in the House was Virginia McCauley. Isn't an obvious lie
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  that Jeffrey Epstein had a sexual preference for underage miners?
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  Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation? Maxwell, can
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  you ask the question again, McCauley, isn't an obvious lie
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  that Jeffrey Epstein had a sexual preference for underage miners?
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  Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation? Maxwell, can
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  you ask the question again? McCauley, Is it an obvious
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  lie that Jeffrey Epstein had a sexual preference for underage miners.
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  Mister Pagliuca, object to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I cannot testify to what jeffreys McCauley, You don't know
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  his preference. Maxwell, you had to be a stack of
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  papers from the fleet reports, and that's what I've read.
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  But I have no knowledge, direct knowledge of what you
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  are referencing, McCauley, So you don't know. You don't know
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  in your own mind that Jeffrey Epstein had a sexual
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  preference for underage miners. Is that correct, mister Pagliuka, objection
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  to the form and the foundation. McCauley, Is that correct? Maxwell,
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  Please ask the question again, McCauley, you don't know in
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  your own mind that Jeffrey Epstein had a sexual preference
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  for underage miners. Mister Pagliuka, objection to the form and
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  the foundation. You have to pause. Let me object answer
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  the question. Listen to her question. Pause. I object. You answer, McCauley,
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  So you don't know in your own mind that Jeffrey
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  Epstein had a sexual preference for underage miners. Mister Pagliuka,
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  objection to the form and the foundation. McCauley, you can answer, Maxwell,
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  I cannot tell you what Jeffree story is. I'm not
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  able to McCauley. Did Jeffrey Epstein have a scheme to
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  recruit underage girls to use them for the purposes of
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  sexual massages? Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell.
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  Can you ask me again, please, McCauley. Did Jeffrey Epstein
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  have a scheme to recruit underage girls to recruit them
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  for sexual massages? Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and
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  the foundation. Maxwell, can you ask it a different way, McCauley.
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  Did Jeffrey Epstein have a scheme to recruit underage girls
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  for sexual massages? Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form and
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  the foundation. McCauley. If you know, Maxwell, I don't know
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  what you are talking about. McCauley. Isn't an obvious lie
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  that Virginia Roberts was a minor the first time she
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  was taken to Jeffrey Epstein's house. Mister Pagliuca objection to
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  the form and the foundation. Maxwell. So we've already established
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  that Virginia was and we established that her mother brought
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  her to the house, and that she came as a
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  messeuse aged seventeen, which is legal in Florida. So we're
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  going to wrap up right there for this part, and
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  we're going to continue in the next episode with the
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  next part. But imagine using this as your excuse. Oh well,
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  she was seventeen, so you know, the abuse is okay,
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  what a disgusting, vile individual. All of the information that
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  goes with the episode can be found in the description box.