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His royal duke-less-ness; regular sweat-less andy · Journey to the Fringe

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to Journey to the Fringe. We're the strangest
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Anyhow, we're here on a Friday, 48 hours well
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after you've decided on your veganism. Here today
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with a Chelsea episode. We are your podcast host,
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Taylor and Chelsea. Just like letting Chelsea
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do her thing now. That was amazing. And it's
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official. We foretold the future regular person
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Andy is now regular person Andy. I believe our
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last update was on regular person Andy being
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able to travel again. What with the non -release
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of the Epstein files thing. But things are looking
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down. Way down for regular Andy now. The question
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is less can he travel and more should he travel?
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I think his future is looking really uncertain
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right now. He's really looking into brain again.
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And while we don't generally cover topical news,
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I think we're okay on this one to make an exception
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because we've been following him for quite a
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while now and I just want to revel in the downfall
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that he's... Currently going through can I just
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yeah, can I just add this point? I've learned
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so much about British Andy in this little bit
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of time Specifically that like his real name,
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which I can't remember in any way But he's got
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a real name a real full name that he has to go
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by it's not his real name It was a name that
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he is being forced to go by now and I think I
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don't think anybody knew it It was just they're
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like we got to give them something You don't
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think they mad lived it, do you? Because that
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does feel like... what the upper class British
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people might madly they might have because there's
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no circumstance in which regular person Andy
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was born into this world where he was ever gonna
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go by this and he found it so we'll talk about
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it today I thought I would do a full episode
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on what's going on up until this very point because
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I did update it today not only because this is
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a story we've been following since I think pretty
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much our inception but also because I've just
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finished The Rise and Fall of the House of York
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and the Virginia Jeffrey memoir Nobody's Girl
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both very different reads So in honor of my reading
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a book I have collected some articles to go through
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on this episode to highlight some of the goings
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-on of regular person Andy by the time this comes
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out there may be Many more things going on with
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him. So let's just jump right in October 15th.
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Andrew emails show contact with Epstein lasted
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beyond 2010 and I should tell you right now I've
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ordered these in chronological order. I'm giving
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you the title and then I'll give you a summary.
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Yeah and it's not when it's coming out it's when
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it happened correct? It would be the the date
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of the article so it would be So this one's from
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the BBC News, written by Sean Cullan. This article
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confirms that Prince Andrew continued corresponding
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with Jeffrey Epstein after 2010, despite publicly
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claiming he cut ties with the convicted sex offender
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that year. The BBC reports on emails from 2011,
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including one in which Andrew wrote, quote, I'm
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just as concerned for you. Don't worry about
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me. It would seem we are in this together and
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we'll have to rise above it otherwise keep in
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close touch and we'll play some more soon many
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exclamation marks and quote This email was sent
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the day after a photo of Andrew with Virginia
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Dufrey was published. He did publicly go on record
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on the BBC documentary, which I have a little
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treat for you later. That does say that he did
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cut ties with him prior to this. The messages
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were uncovered in court documents related to
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a separate US case involving former JP Morgan
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executive Jess Staley. They suggest that Andrew
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maintained a friendly and familiar tone with
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Epstein, even after his conviction and release
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from prison. Yes, he was pictured with Jeffrey
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Epstein after his release from prison. The article
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emphasizes that these revelations undermine Andrew's
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2019 BBC Newsnight interview where he insisted
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he had no further contact with Epstein after
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2010. The leak has intensified calls for accountability
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with US lawmakers and UK MPs arguing Andrew to
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testify. The BBC also notes that the monarchy's
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efforts to distance itself from Andrew, such
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as stripping him of titles, may not be enough
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to contain the reputational damage. In April
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2010, months after Epstein's release from prison
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for prostituting minors, Andrew emailed Epstein
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saying, quote it would be nice to catch up in
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person end quote and that he had quote no immediate
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plans to drop by new york but i think i should
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at some stage soon end quote october 17th we
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have a statement i grabbed this right from the
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royals website whatever the hell it is i can't
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remember they have their own website i did not
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know that so this statement's published on their
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website a statement from prince andrew quote
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in discussion with the king and my immediate
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and wider family, we have concluded the continued
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accusations about me distract from the work of
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His Majesty and the royal family. I have decided,
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as I always have, to put my duty to my family
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and country first. I stand by my decision five
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years ago to stand back from public life. With
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His Majesty's agreement, we feel I must now go
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a step further. I will therefore no longer use
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my title or the honors which have been conferred
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upon me as I have said Previously, I vigorously
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deny the accusations against me. End. October
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18, 2025. Article titled, York MP Calls on Royal
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Family to Explain Source of 12 Million Pound
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Virginia Diffree Payment. That's from The Guardian,
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Geraldine McKelvey, and Sammy Geksoyler. Are
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the authors of that one? The summary of this
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article. York MP Rachel Maskell has demanded
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transparency from Buckingham Palace regarding
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the $12 million settlement paid to Virginia Jeffrey
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by Prince Andrew. She questions whether public
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funds were used and calls for a formal inquiry.
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Quote, the public has a right to know whether
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their money was used to silence a victim of abuse,
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end quote. The article highlights growing political
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pressure in the UK for financial accountability.
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and suggests that the monarchy's silence is fueling
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public distrust. It gets worse. October 25, 2025.
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Article title, Prince Andrew's remarks about
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Kate sparked royal rift with Prince William.
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This isn't the worst part, worser part. It just,
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it adds to kind of what's going on. This article
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is from Marie Claire, Kaylee Roberts is the author
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and the summary of this one is this article explores
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how a disparaging comment made by Prince Andrew
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about Kate Middleton allegedly triggered a long
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-standing rift between him and Prince William.
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The remark made early in William and Kate's relationship
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reportedly questions Kate's suitability for royal
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life and was perceived as snobbish and dismissive.
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Quote, attributed to regular person Andy. Quote,
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she's just a commenter. She'll never fit in.
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Next quote, Andrew has never been a great drudge
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of character. So it's not surprising that he
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would resent someone as stellar as Kate eclipsing
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him and pretty much everyone else in the monarchy.
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End quote. I really like that. quote from the
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article it just kind of summarized his isn't
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like alt royal related to him anyway so is he
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saying like you should have married your sister
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basically yeah probably he he really is a shitty
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judge of character though it's really undeniable
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so I just I really liked how that kind of brought
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it all kind of together and I also like you know
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you can just tell that Prince William just absolutely
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fucked and he eats his guts. I don't know how
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you can tell it. You just get it off of him.
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He's Creepy Uncle Andy. Like straight up. Like
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you know they call him that. You just want nothing
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to do with him. You can tell. October 30th Buckingham
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Palace puts out a statement. They're like we
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got to deal with this. This is snowballing. People
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are questioning where money's coming from and
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everything. And regular person Andy tried to
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get ahead of it. He knew this was gonna come
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up. It was either gonna be taken from him or
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he had to renounce it. So he renounced it. is
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that Buckingham Palace is like oh fuck we're
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gonna crumble too our approval rating I don't
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know if that's what they call it not good we're
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on shaky ground so we're gonna put out a statement
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because it's not looking good for them either
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So they published this on their website, October
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30th. His Majesty has today initiated a formal
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process to remove the style titles and honors
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of Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew will now be known
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as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. There you go.
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That's, yeah. It's quite the name. It sounds
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like a wombat, doesn't it? His lease on Royal
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Lodge has to date provided him with legal protection
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to continue in residence. Formal notice has now
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been served to surrender the lease and he will
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move to alternative private accommodation. These
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censors are deemed necessary not withstanding
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the fact that he continues to deny the allegations
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against him. Love that line. Their Majesties
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wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost
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sympathies have been and will remain with the
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victims and survivors of any and all forms of
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abuse. And I love their one line in that. So,
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we have October 29th, MPs demand clarity over
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Prince Andrew's peppercorn rent at Royal Lodge.
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This is from The Guardian, author Anisa Ahmed.
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This article reports that UK Members of Parliament
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are calling for an investigation into the financial
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arrangement allowing Prince Andrew to live at
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Royal Lodge, a 30 -room mansion in Windsor Great
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Park, for a nominal annual rent. The arrangement
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stems from a 75 -year lease signed in 2003, but
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critics argue it's inappropriate given Andrew's
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removal from royal duties in recent scandals.
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a working royal and from serious and disturbing
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allegations made against him." The Guardian notes
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that Andrew has spent millions on renovations
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and continues to reside there despite King Charles'
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efforts to relocate him. The article raises concerns
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about transparency, accountability, and the optics
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of privilege, especially as Buckingham Palace
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remains silent on the lease's terms and funding
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sources. disgraced royal living rent free for
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years stings especially during a cost of living
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crisis currently happening in many places in
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the world October 30th, title, Prince Andrew
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is losing his Prince title and his royal estate.
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This is from the CBC News. The summary of this
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article, Buckingham Palace announces that Prince
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Andrew will be stripped of his Prince title and
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evicted from Royal Lodge. As we've already learned,
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I thought this was a nice summary of it in this
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article. He will now be referred to as regular
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person Andy. Just kidding. It's Andrew Mountbatten.
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Windsor. This decision follows mounting public
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and political pressure over his ties to Jeffrey
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Epstein and the settlement paid to Virginia Jeffrey.
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A statement said he will also move out of Royal
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Lodge, the home in Windsor Great Park he has
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had for decades. Constitutional experts said
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the move is unprecedented in the royal family's
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modern history, marking the first genuine royal
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crisis in Charles' reign. I would say that's
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correct. Andy will be moved to Sandringham. Buckingham
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Palace isn't saying exactly where Andrew will
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live on San Ringham Estate, the King's private
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estate in Norfolk, northeast of London. Be fair,
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people might murder him if they know where he
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lived. Yeah, and I think he's on thin ice with
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the royal family as well. He's on time out. San
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Ringham as a private estate means that no taxpayer
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money will be spent housing Andrew. quote his
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majesty has today initiated a formal process
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to remove the style titles and honors of prince
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andrew and quote the move is seen as king charles's
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attempt to protect the monarchy's reputation
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amid growing scrutiny and backlash i like this
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one october 30th article title a bbc studio audience
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applauded the news and this is written by anna
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cunningham Summary. Today's news broke during
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a recording of the BBC's Question Time, a TV
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show debating current issues with political guests
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in front of a live studio audience. As the details
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of the King's decision was read out by the host
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Fiona Bruce, the studio audience gave a resounding
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applause. I quite like that. That's beautiful.
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That is beautiful. October 30th, 2025. Title
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of this one, No Longer Prince Andrew, an expert
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on how royals can be stripped of their titles.
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This is from The Conversation written by Cindy
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McCreary. Cultural historian Cindy McCreary explains
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the constitutional and symbolic process behind
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stripping royal titles. King Charles issued a
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letters patent to remove Prince Andrew's Prince
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and His Royal Highness styles, a rare and significant
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act. While titles can be revoked by the monarch,
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Andrew remains in the line of succession unless
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Parliament intervenes. Quote, this is a powerful
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symbolic move but it doesn't remove him from
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the line of succession. The article emphasizes
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that this decision reflects Charles' desire to
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modernize and protect the monarchy's reputation
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amid scandal. Andrew remains eighth in line to
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the throne and could only be removed by the line
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of succession by an act of parliament, Prescott
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said, which I'm surprised isn't happening, to
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be honest with you. That would also require the
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consent of the 14 other countries where Charles
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is king, including Canada. Wait, we would have
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to pass our own thing? I guess. So, I don't think
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- Or he could accidentally become king? I would
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vote for that. I mean, he would be king here
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too, right? Technically. That was a nobody's
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ticket in the last election. Yeah, and you know
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what? I say do it! Who's gonna vote against this?
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I mean, it's gonna cost money to vote to do that,
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but I don't think anyone gives a fuck at this
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point. They just wanna - It's a pretty minimal
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vote. It's true. There have been rare removals
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from the line of succession in the past, one
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being Prince Michael of Kent, who lost his place
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when he married a Catholic in 1978, as per the
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Act of Settlement in 1701. With the succession
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to the Crown Act in 2013, Prince Michael was
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reinstated into the line of succession. So yeah,
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that one is really interesting just on the technicalities
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over stripping the titles from him against him.
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But he's still in the bloodline, right? They
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can't take that away unless they kill him. Or
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the governor says that you don't count anymore.
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Yeah, I guess there's that too. Yeah, killing
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him is probably easier. October 31st. Prince
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Andrew has lost his titles but could still be
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king. What else does he keep? National Post,
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Chris Knight. Following King Charles' decision
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to strip Prince Andrew of his Prince title and
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Royal Honours, the article explores what Andrew
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still retains. I'm just gonna read what else
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he keeps. So what he keeps, I covered the other
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stuff in the other article. He keeps his personal
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wealth, military pension, and Falklands war medal,
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which was earned through active service and cannot
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be revoked, which I think is funny because I
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read his book and pretty much they're insinuating
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that his whole military career was based on privilege.
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Well yeah, he didn't have to actually go to war
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in any time. Except that time where he forgot
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to sweat. Most people that they had in the book
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that were talking about his career in the military
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said that he was just this privileged, I guess,
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nepo baby in the end. His daughters, princesses,
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Beatrice and Eugene retain their titles, though
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their public roles are limited as well, which
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I was shocked at. The article emphasizes that
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while Andrew's public role is over, his legal
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and hereditary status, remains intact unless
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further action is taken. It also notes that his
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new designation, Andrew Montban Windsor, marks
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a rare and dramatic shift in his royal identity.
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The piece notes that while his public role is
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over, his legal and financial entitlements remain
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largely intact unless further action is taken.
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October 31st, 2025, former Prince Andrew brought
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40 prostitutes to a hotel in Thailand using taxpayer
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money, reveals historian. Spectacular fall from
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grace. This one's the times of India, of all
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places reporting. India, the times of them. Well,
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technically he's still king of India, isn't he?
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I don't... Is he? They're part of the Commonwealth.
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Are they? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay. A historian
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revealed that Prince Andrew allegedly used public
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funds to pay for 40 sex workers during a trip
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to Thailand. The claim, part of a broader expose
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on his spectacular fall from grace, spectacular
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it is, has reignited outrage over royal spending
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and accountability. Quote, this is not just a
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lapse in judgment. It was a grotesque abuse of
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privilege. End quote. The article underscores
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how Andrew's behavior is long been shielded by
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royal status and how recent revelations are fueling
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calls for criminal investigation and financial
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transparency. Yep, you'll notice that a lot of
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these are kind of the monarchy covering up for
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his stuff so far. Yep. In everything that's talking
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about the past, they're finally putting a foot
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down realizing that it's damaging them more than
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anything now that his accusations are getting
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so very public. October 31st. Prince Andrew,
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what his behavior tells us about the royal family.
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This is from The Guardian, Caroline Davies. This
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analysis critiques the monarchy's long -standing
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tolerance of Prince Andrew's behavior, arguing
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that his downfall reflects deeper institutional
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flaws. The article highlights how Andrew's ties
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to Jeffrey Epstein and his refusal to take responsibility
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were enabled by a culture of privilege and protection.
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This analysis piece delves into the deeper implications
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of Prince Andrew's conduct and the royal family's
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response. It critiques the monarchy's long -standing
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tendency to shield problematic members and questions
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whether the institution is truly capable of reform.
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Personally, I wouldn't just say reform, but also
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the individuals that they're capable of turning
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out. This guy is not something, he's not a leader,
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he's not something to be proud of. He's just...
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a problem, to put it lightly. That's probably
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a compliment to him, actually. The article argues
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that Andrew's downfall is not just personal,
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but emblematic of broader issues within the royal
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system, including privilege, lack of accountability,
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and outdated traditions. Quote, Andrew's behavior
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was tolerated for decades until it became untenable,
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end quote. The piece suggests that the palace's
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recent actions are reactive rather than proactive,
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driven by public outrage. rather than internal
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ethics. Quote, Andrew's behavior was tolerated
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for decades until it became untenable, end quote.
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November 1st, Prince Andrew faces renewed scrutiny
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over Virginia Jeffrey claims in panorama follow
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-up. The panorama interview is the one that you
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talk about with regular person Andy where he
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says he doesn't sweat. This one's from The Independent
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from Shweta Sharma and Athena Stavrou. This article
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covers the release of a follow -up episode of
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the BBC's panorama investigation, reigniting
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public attention on Virginia Jeffries' allegations
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against Prince Andrew. The program includes new
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testimony and commentary from legal experts suggesting
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that Andrew's legal exposure may not be over.
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The piece also highlights the palace's silence
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in response to the broadcast, contrasting it
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with the swift action taken to strip Andrew of
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its titles. His titles. A standout quote from
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Jeffrey's lawyer, quote, this is not just about
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one man, it's about a system that allowed abuse
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to flourish, end quote. The article underscores
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the continuing reputational damage to the monarchy.
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The BBC's panorama investigation into Prince
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Andrew, titled Panorama, the Follow Prince Andrew,
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is a documentary series that revisits his ties
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to Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Jeffrey. featuring
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previously unaired footage and new revelations.
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And like I said, the original one was aired in
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2019. I rewatched it in preparation for this
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episode and man, it is a hard watch. It is a
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hard watch. Yeah. All the way through. He's just
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lying through his teeth. All he can say is I
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don't remember meeting her and he's stumbling
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all over himself He's like that picture specifically
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remembers the pizza. Yeah, he remembers the pizza
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He goes well that picture was taken upstairs
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and I've never been upstairs in Jelaine Maxwell's
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house and just how he keeps repeating that and
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he keeps saying it was taken upstairs like how
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would you know that was taken upstairs if you've
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never been there and then he's like i've never
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been to that club that virginia roberts at the
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time said that i was there with her at because
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i don't know where that club is yeah he has beautiful
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beautiful excuses why they let him do that i
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think it just i i think it's just privilege Honestly,
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the whole interview just... It reeks of privilege.
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It reeks of somebody who knows, thinks they can
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pull a fast one on someone. And he clearly can't.
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He cannot. And that's why I said it reeks of
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privilege. So the follow -up episode did just
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come out in 2025, November 2025. And it features
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previously unseen footage from Jeffrey's 2019
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interview. She says in the footage, quote, I
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was a toy. I was there to be passed around, but
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I was still a human being with feelings. emotion
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and sadness." She expressed disbelief that Andrew,
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a father of daughters, could still abuse her.
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Key themes are emotional depth, The episode highlights
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Jeffrey's pain in humanity, contrasting it with
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Andrew's perceived lack of accountability. Legal
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experts interviewed in the documentary argue
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that Andrew's case reflects broader failures
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in elite institutions protect vulnerable individuals,
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and the broadcast intensified calls for transparency
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around Andy's settlement with Jeffrey and his
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continued legal exposure. The Panorama episode
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added pressure on the royal family, especially
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as it aired just days after Andy was stripped
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of his titles and evicted from Royal Lodge. It
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also fueled speculation about further legal consequences
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and the monarchy's role in shielding its members.
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Next article, November 1st, House Democrats asked
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former Prince Andrew to appear for questioning
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about Jeffrey Epstein. From CBS News by Haley
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Ott, the U .S. House Democrats are calling for
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Prince Andrew to testify about his relationship
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with Jeffrey Epstein and the financial settlement
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paid to Virginia Jeffrey. Lawmakers argue that
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Andrew's involvement may shed light on Epstein's
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broader network and the mechanisms of elite protection.
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Quote, we cannot allow powerful men to evade
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accountability simply because they wear a crown,
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end quote. Representative Alexandria Ocasio -Cortez.
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The article notes that. Ocasio. Oh, you're going
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to like this. AOC. What? Alexandria Ocasio -Cortez.
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Oh yeah, you got it. The article notes that diplomatic
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immunity no longer applies to Andrew and that
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subpoenas of formal requests may follow if UK
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cooperation is secured, now that he has no titles.
25:08
Yeah, hopefully, but he's also, like, he's picking
25:12
his places he's flying pretty carefully right
25:14
now. Yeah, yeah, but he's no longer back to your
25:17
miles, Auntie. No, he is Bahrain Andy at most.
25:22
He had such a brief glimpse of potential freedom.
25:26
Oil brain Andy. November 1st, Met Police looks
25:30
into reports Prince Andrew asked Officer to investigate
25:34
Accuser, which is Virginia Jeffery, as William
25:37
Plans ruthless approach towards the Royals. This
25:40
is Sky News. I couldn't find the author on this
25:43
one. This article reports that the Metropolitan
25:45
Police have been asked to investigate whether
25:47
Prince Andrew committed misconduct by allegedly
25:50
attempting to smear Virginia Jeffery in 2011.
25:53
The request stems from claims that Andrew instructed
25:56
his Royal Protection Officer to dig up damaging
25:59
information on Jeffery shortly after her allegations
26:02
became public. Quote, if true, this would amount
26:05
to a serious abuse of power and obstruction,
26:07
end quote, said a legal source. The article also
26:10
highlights less importantly that Prince William
26:12
is taking a ruthless stance toward Andrew, supporting
26:15
his permanent exclusion from royal events and
26:18
future coronations. Lawyers for Epstein's victims
26:21
predict more damaging leaks are imminent, potentially
26:24
involving other high profile figures. What does
26:27
life look like for Prince Andrew now that he's
26:30
been stripped of his titles? This is Marie Claire
26:33
from Kristen Contino. Kristen Contino explores
26:36
Andrew's post -title lifestyle. He's been evicted
26:39
from Morrill Lodge and will relocate to a private
26:42
residence in San Rigan Mistate. The article paints
26:45
a picture of isolation and diminished influence,
26:48
noting that regular person Andy's routine will
26:51
consist of quiet weekends, legal consultations,
26:54
and limited public visibility. November 1st,
26:58
ex -Prince Andrew faces increased calls by U
27:01
.S. lawmakers to testify in Epstein case. This
27:04
one's by Politico EU staff Jacob Wiseman. Following
27:07
renewed scrutiny of Prince Andrew's ties to Jeffrey
27:10
Epstein, several U .S. lawmakers are urging him
27:13
to testify before Congress. The pressure intensified
27:16
after Virginia Jeffrey's death and the release
27:18
of new BBC footage. Lawmakers argued that Andrew's
27:22
testimony could shed light on Epstein's network
27:25
and the role of powerful figures in enabling
27:27
abuse. The American people deserve answers. If
27:30
Andrew has nothing to hide, he should come forward.
27:33
The article notes that while Andrew is no longer
27:36
a working royal, diplomatic and legal hurdles
27:38
remain, his lawyers have declined comment, and
27:41
UK officials have not confirmed cooperation.
27:43
Mostly they just want to hear if he knew Trump
27:45
in any way, which he probably did. Trump loves
27:48
clout. November 2nd, 2025, Andrew erased royal
27:52
tributes to Jeffrey Epstein victims. That one's
27:55
from the Times, Tom Sykes. The expose reveals
27:58
that Prince Andrew repeatedly removed references
28:01
to Epstein's victims from official palace statements
28:04
over the years. How does he have access to that?
28:10
I feel like he walked into the wrong room and
28:13
just Mr. Beaned them out of existence. Doesn't
28:16
he feel like a Mr. Bean type character? Yeah,
28:19
yeah he does. He does. A source close to the
28:22
King and Queen said Andrew resisted acknowledging
28:25
the victim's suffering even after his disastrous
28:28
2019 interview. Quote, each time courtiers drafted
28:31
in references to the victims, they were removed
28:34
after they went to Andrew for sign -off. Why
28:37
would they go to him for sign -off? The article
28:40
highlights internal frustration within the royal
28:49
family, especially from Camilla and Sophie, whose
28:53
advocacy for abuse survivors clashed with Andrew's
28:57
evasiveness. I think Sophie's their sister, is
29:00
it not? I have no idea. Oh yeah, here's a good
29:04
one. November 3rd. Donald Trump feels badly for
29:08
the royal family after ex -Prince Andrew is stripped
29:11
of his title's tragic situation. This one's from
29:15
OK Magazine from Irene Marie Espera. Donald Trump
29:20
commented on Prince Andrew's title removal, expressing
29:24
sympathy for the royal family. He reportedly
29:26
told aides he feels badly about the situation
29:30
and believes Andrew was thrown under the bus.
29:33
It's a shame. I always liked him. He was a gentleman.
29:37
Oh god, the misogynistic tone of that. The article
29:41
notes Trump's past interactions with Andrew and
29:44
Epstein and frames his remarks as part of a broader
29:47
pattern of defending controversial figures. Oh,
29:50
I like this one too. Okay, I like all my articles,
29:53
okay? Name change call for Prince Andrew Road
29:56
in Maidenhead. That's the article title. From
30:00
the BBC News. Some residents of Prince Andrew
30:03
Road and Prince Andrew clothes in Maidenhead
30:05
have requested that the streets be renamed. citing
30:09
discomfort with the association after Prince
30:12
Andrew was stripped of his titles and re -designated
30:15
as Andrew Mountain Batten Windsor. The Rhodes
30:17
were originally named in the 1960s to honor his
30:20
birth. The Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead
30:24
stated that any formal application for renaming
30:26
would be assessed according to local procedures,
30:29
which require unanimous agreement from all property
30:33
owners on the affected streets. Quote, it's not
30:35
right to have a street named after someone who's
30:38
brought shame on the royal family, said one resident.
30:41
The article also notes that similar calls have
30:43
emerged in Helsten near Norwich, although the
30:47
road was named after Prince Andrew of Greece
30:49
and Denmark, not the Duke. of York. But it was
30:53
so bad that they just have to get rid of it.
30:56
Yeah, exactly. They don't know about that guy
31:00
anymore. and final article titled this is published
31:04
yesterday ex -prince andrew insisting on royal
31:08
staff and not feeling confined in new homes says
31:11
former butler this is marie claire written by
31:15
amy mckelden this article reveals that prince
31:18
andrew now officially regular person andy is
31:22
reportedly refusing to scale back his royal lifestyle
31:25
even after being stripped of his titles and evicted
31:28
from royal lodge according to his former butler
31:31
and Drew is insisting on retaining royal staff,
31:35
including footmen and valets, and continues to
31:37
behave as though he is entitled to full royal
31:40
treatment. I mean, to be fair, the guy can't
31:42
drive. He has never driven in his life. You expect
31:46
him to pick up driving at like 65? Yes, he's
31:50
now regular. He was behaving irregular now. No,
31:54
he was really behaving like royalty now, wasn't
31:57
he? Yeah, just the part we don't want to talk
31:59
about with royalty. Yeah, exactly. quote, he
32:02
still expects to be treated like a prince even
32:05
if the palace says otherwise, end quote. The
32:08
article also notes that Andrew does not feel
32:10
confined in his new smaller residence and is
32:14
allegedly resisting efforts by King Charles to
32:16
further reduce his privileges. The former butler
32:19
describes Andrew as delusional and in denial
32:22
about his change status. The article frames this
32:25
as a part of a broader pattern of Andrew's refusal
32:28
to accept accountability even as public and political
32:31
pressure mounts. What say you? What do you have
32:35
to say about all of this? Oh man, just first
32:38
off. It's a train wreck. It's a train wreck.
32:41
The royal family is trying to maintain any form
32:45
of decadence that they can or at least persona
32:48
that they are royal. Yeah. So they are just ditching
32:51
him as fast as they can. Matt, he is trying to
32:56
do his own damage control, but I feel he's in
32:59
charge of his damage control. And he's an idiot.
33:02
He is a fucking idiot. He's a total idiot. And
33:07
you know, I really needed these articles too
33:10
to put the monarchy in a different light for
33:13
me because yes, I totally got before reading
33:16
all of these that they're outdated. Who needs
33:19
the monarchy in my raid? But it just gives this...
33:23
whole larger implication of they're only finally
33:27
doing something about this now when they're being
33:30
absolutely hands tied forced to because they
33:34
can't look away from it anymore. They will be
33:37
destroyed if they don't do something about it.
33:39
That's basically it. When before like when Queen
33:43
Elizabeth was alive she was doing everything
33:46
to pay off this kind of stuff to push it to the
33:48
side so that nobody paid attention to it and
33:51
they were quite content doing that and I think
33:53
now they're realizing that they're not able to
33:55
do that so they had to take a much more oh brazen
33:59
report and it almost seems like they're being
34:02
celebrated for actually doing something when
34:04
they should have done look at you guys doing
34:06
the bare minimum Yeah exactly. So I think they
34:11
really opened my eyes at least in these articles
34:14
showing the behavior that was covering up for
34:19
what is clearly an idiot acting incredibly inappropriately.
34:24
See idiot might be the wrong term for him. Entitled
34:28
frat boy I think is like fully how I encapsulate
34:32
British Andy. And you're not lying and he's very
34:36
from the book that I read about him too. He's
34:39
very like naive. Yeah No, it's ignorance and
34:43
idiocy can seem the same, but they are different
34:45
things. It's true. He's very entitled and can't
34:50
read a room. And all of those together do make
34:53
me summarize it as an idiot. But you're right,
34:55
they are different from idiots. And I do find
34:58
it hilarious because you can exist as an individual
35:01
with those skills and still make a fortune as
35:05
the second born. to the Queen of England, but
35:08
he fucked it up. And it's because he kind of
35:11
acted as the firstborn. It's funny because he
35:15
does have a certain kind of arrogance to the
35:19
stupidity. Because he thought he could get on...
35:23
I almost think it's a pretentiousness. It's a
35:25
pretentiousness that he just thinks he's better
35:27
than them. Yeah, because he could go on there
35:30
and make up all these lies that he doesn't sweat
35:33
and think that people are just gonna believe
35:35
him. Yeah, they'll get it, because I'm royal
35:37
-born, whereas they're the common folk. That
35:40
has to be one of the biggest royal fuck -ups
35:42
in history, that they let him do that. It's pretty
35:46
high up there. It's pretty high up there. I mean,
35:51
there's only a small timeline where Royals could
35:53
be interviewed in the grand timeline of things.
35:58
I don't know. Like, I picture it the same way
36:01
as, like, him in front of a large crowd of the
36:04
masses, like, saying, people of the land, I must
36:07
tell you, for I do not sweat. I do not sweat.
36:12
It couldn't have been me. These rumors are salacious
36:14
of me. That's his all. No further follow -up
36:19
questions. Oh, he's such a jackass. Yeah. I just
36:25
- I almost feel like that's how we thought it
36:27
was actually gonna happen instead of an interview.
36:31
Because there were follow -up questions. There
36:33
was, and she just kept reading the question back
36:37
to him after he said his reply. And you know
36:42
what? He's in a free fall right now going down.
36:46
I don't see an end to this. This last one where
36:48
he's trying to keep his butler and stuff like
36:51
that was just published yesterday. So by the
36:53
time this is published, you get your episode
36:58
on a Friday, he may be dead. Yeah, we don't know
37:02
where the ground for Royals are. There may be
37:05
no more monarchy, we don't know. But this is
37:08
what we can do with this time. He might be king,
37:10
weirdly enough. Like still, like we said, Ethan
37:15
Lye. Yeah, yeah. If he went on the murder spree.
37:19
Yeah, it's true. Oh, fuck. We could be living
37:23
in a weird world by the time this gets to your
37:27
ears. And yeah, it was a fun episode to look
37:31
at and I just... I just read them and I laugh
37:35
because and I both laugh and recoil because I
37:39
still feel like based on that last article it's
37:42
not hit enough. This is not a rock bottom for
37:45
him. Oh no, he is not a rock bottom. He hasn't
37:48
even tried heroin as far as I can tell. No, I
37:53
would say he's definitely, he's not hard enough
37:55
to have tried heroin by this point. Oh no. Maybe
37:58
he's tried heroin by the time this comes out.
38:00
No, Chelsea, at this point he has heard about
38:03
the marijuana. Oh, I don't know. No, he has heard
38:06
about it. Okay. He hasn't tried it. That's his
38:09
heart, the hard drug he heard about is the marijuana.
38:12
Okay, okay. Now that sounds real. Yeah, that's
38:17
the regular personality update we all needed.
38:22
And to take us on out of this one, I'm going
38:25
to leave you with some special excerpts of the
38:28
BBC interview about regular personality not being
38:33
able to sweat. Oh, good. And with that, I have
38:37
been Taylor, here with Chelsea. We are Journey
38:39
to the Fringe. Thank you all for listening. We'll
38:41
see you next week. Bye. One of Epstein's accusers,
38:45
Virginia Roberts, has made allegations against
38:48
you. She was very specific about that night.
38:52
She described dancing with you and you profusely
38:55
sweating and that she went on to have bath possibly...
39:00
There's a slight problem with the sweating because
39:05
I have a peculiar medical condition which is
39:11
that I don't sweat. or I didn't sweat at the
39:13
time, and that was... Oh, actually, yes. I didn't
39:17
sweat at the time because I had suffered what
39:22
I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline
39:24
in the Falklands War when I was shot at, and
39:28
I simply... It was almost impossible for me to
39:32
sweat. Do you remember dancing at Tramp? No.
39:37
That couldn't have happened because the date
39:39
that was being suggested... I was at home with
39:42
the children. You know that you were at home
39:47
with the children. Was it a memorable night?
39:49
On that particular day that we now understand
39:54
is the date, which is the 10th of March, I was
39:58
at home. I was with the children. I'd taken Beatrice
40:02
to a pizza express in Woking for a party at,
40:08
I suppose, sort of four or five in the afternoon.
40:10
Why would you remember that so specifically?
40:13
Why would you remember a Pizza Express birthday
40:15
and being at home? Because going to Pizza Express
40:18
in Woking is an unusual thing for me to do. A
40:23
very unusual thing for me to do. I've only been
40:26
through Woking a couple of times and I remember
40:29
it weirdly, distinctly. As soon as somebody reminded
40:32
me of it, I went, oh yes, I remember that. Thank
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