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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Imagine this.
- 0:01SPEAKER_00: You're finally out of a toxic relationship.
- 0:04SPEAKER_00: You've cried, prayed, blocked a number, unblocked it, and blocked it again with the determination of someone canceling a gym membership that keeps charging her.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: Then, just when you begin to breathe, your mind opens a courtroom.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: You are the defendant, you are also the prosecutor.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: And apparently the judge hasn't slept since February.
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: How did you miss the signs?
- 0:27SPEAKER_00: Why did you believe that apology?
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: Why did you give them another chance?
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: Suddenly, the person who hurt you has left the room, but you're still sitting there doing their job for them.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Today, we're dismissing that court.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: Because you can learn from what happened without sentencing yourself to a lifetime of feeling foolish.
- 0:46SPEAKER_03: Wow, Shannon, that is such a vivid picture.
- 0:48SPEAKER_03: I think so many of us have been in that courtroom, haven't we?
- 0:51SPEAKER_03: I'm Jake O'Connell and I'm here with my co-host Shannon Alder.
- 0:54SPEAKER_03: Shannon is the author of the best-selling book, The Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Bible.
- 1:00SPEAKER_03: And I speak on everything spiritual, helping us bring our questions, our struggles, and occasionally our extremely questionable relationship decisions back to God.
- 1:09SPEAKER_03: Today we're talking about five ways to release self-blame for not recognizing abuse sooner.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: That's right, Jake, and let's establish something before we get started.
- 1:18SPEAKER_01: Someone else's decision to manipulate, intimidate, deceive, or mistreat you belongs to them.
- 1:24SPEAKER_01: You can take responsibility for your healing without taking responsibility for their abuse.
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: Those are two very different assignments.
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: Please stop accepting extra credit in a class God never enrolled you in.
- 1:36SPEAKER_03: Amen to that.
- 1:38SPEAKER_03: I love that.
- 1:39SPEAKER_03: So let's dive into the first way.
- 1:41SPEAKER_03: Shannon, what's the first step?
- 1:43SPEAKER_01: The first way is to stop judging your past self with information you have today.
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: Have you ever watched a mystery movie a second time?
- 1:51SPEAKER_01: Suddenly, everything looks obvious.
- 1:54SPEAKER_01: Look at his face.
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: He absolutely did it.
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: Well, yes.
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: You already watched the ending.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: During the first viewing, you thought he was a nice accountant with an unfortunate haircut.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: That's what hindsight does.
- 2:08SPEAKER_01: It makes yesterday's uncertainty look like today's obvious answer.
- 2:12SPEAKER_03: That's a great analogy.
- 2:13SPEAKER_03: It reminds me of how we read scripture sometimes.
- 2:15SPEAKER_03: We see Peter denying Jesus, and we think, how could he?
- 2:19SPEAKER_03: But we know the end of the story.
- 2:20SPEAKER_03: Peter didn't.
- 2:21SPEAKER_03: He was in the middle of fear and confusion.
- 2:24SPEAKER_03: And yet Jesus restored him.
- 2:26SPEAKER_03: In John chapter 21, Jesus meets Peter beside the sea, and there's breakfast, conversation, and a renewed calling.
- 2:34SPEAKER_03: No PowerPoint presentation titled Peter: Three Ways You Have Disappointed Everyone.
- 2:39SPEAKER_03: That's grace.
- 2:41SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 2:42SPEAKER_01: And that's the heart of it.
- 2:43SPEAKER_01: You can acknowledge I wish I had responded differently, without concluding, I deserved what happened.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: Try replacing, how could I have been so stupid?
- 2:52SPEAKER_01: with I made decisions with the understanding I had then.
- 2:56SPEAKER_01: I can make different decisions with what I know now.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: That is learning without cruelty.
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: And cruelty is not a requirement for personal growth.
- 3:04SPEAKER_03: I love that.
- 3:06SPEAKER_03: Learning without cruelty.
- 3:08SPEAKER_03: But Shannon, let me push back a little.
- 3:10SPEAKER_03: Isn't there a risk that if we're too compassionate with our past selves, we might ignore red flags in the future?
- 3:16SPEAKER_03: How do we balance self-forgiveness with vigilance?
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: That's a great question, Jake.
- 3:21SPEAKER_01: And you're right, we don't want to swing from self-blame to self-deception.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: The key is to separate compassion from complacency.
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: Compassion says, I understand why I made those choices.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: Complacency says, I don't need to learn anything.
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: We're not saying ignore the red flags.
- 3:36SPEAKER_01: We're saying don't beat yourself up for not seeing them when you didn't have the full picture.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: You can learn from the past without living in it.
- 3:43SPEAKER_01: You can say, I see now what I missed, and I will use that wisdom moving forward.
- 3:48SPEAKER_01: That's the balance.
- 3:50SPEAKER_03: That makes perfect sense.
- 3:52SPEAKER_03: So what's the second way?
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: The second way is to separate your loving intentions from their harmful choices.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: Maybe you stayed because you believed in marriage.
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: Maybe you believed people could change.
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: Maybe you remembered the person who once held your hand, prayed with you, and seemed genuinely interested in your life.
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: Maybe you thought, if I can just explain how much this hurts, surely they'll understand.
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: So you explained.
- 4:18SPEAKER_01: Then you explained more clearly.
- 4:20SPEAKER_01: Then you added examples.
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: At some point, you were essentially preparing a doctoral dissertation, called Please Stop Hurting My Feelings.
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: Findings from a seven-year study.
- 4:31SPEAKER_03: That's so relatable.
- 4:33SPEAKER_03: And you know, wanting someone to understand you is human.
- 4:36SPEAKER_03: Hoping someone will change is human.
- 4:38SPEAKER_03: Neither makes you responsible for what they chose to do.
- 4:41SPEAKER_03: Your compassion may have been used against you, your commitment may have been exploited.
- 4:45SPEAKER_03: The exploitation is their responsibility.
- 4:48SPEAKER_03: 1 Corinthians 13 describes love as patient and kind.
- 4:52SPEAKER_03: But it also says love rejoices in truth rather than wrongdoing.
- 4:56SPEAKER_03: We sometimes remember the patience and forget the truth.
- 4:59SPEAKER_01: Right, we turn love into an endurance competition.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: How much can I tolerate before someone gives me a Christian woman trophy?
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: But love does not require you to call cruelty kindness.
- 5:11SPEAKER_01: It does not require you to pretend a repeated betrayal is simply a communication issue.
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: If you keep explaining that something hurts and the person keeps choosing it, you are allowed to consider what their behavior is telling you.
- 5:24SPEAKER_03: And Jesus was compassionate, but he was also discerning.
- 5:28SPEAKER_03: John 2, verses 24-25 describes Jesus as knowing what was in people and not entrusting himself to everyone, that matters.
- 5:39SPEAKER_03: You can care about someone without giving them unrestricted access to your life.
- 5:43SPEAKER_03: You can pray for someone while declining their invitation to another argument that starts at 10.47 p.m.
- 5:49SPEAKER_03: and somehow ends with you apologizing for their behavior.
- 5:52SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: Ask yourself what good intention was I acting from?
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: Perhaps the answer is loyalty, hope, compassion, or a desire to keep your family together.
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: Honor that intention.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: Then consider how you can protect it with wisdom.
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: Your capacity to love does not need to disappear.
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: It needs boundaries around it.
- 6:13SPEAKER_03: That's a great segue to the third way, tuning into God's guidance without blaming yourself for not hearing perfectly.
- 6:20SPEAKER_03: This is a big one for many Christian survivors.
- 6:23SPEAKER_03: They ask, was God warning me, and I just didn't listen.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: Maybe you remember a troubling conversation, a feeling of uneasiness, a concern you pushed aside because the person had a convincing explanation.
- 6:36SPEAKER_01: Looking back, you may wish you had paid closer attention.
- 6:40SPEAKER_01: But please don't turn that wish into another weapon against yourself.
- 6:44SPEAKER_01: Failing to recognize abuse does not prove you lacked faith.
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: A person who deceived you did not become your responsibility because you prayed.
- 6:52SPEAKER_03: Amen.
- 6:53SPEAKER_03: Spiritual discernment is not an examination where one missed answer means you must live with the consequences forever.
- 7:00SPEAKER_03: James 1, verse 5 invites us to ask God for wisdom.
- 7:03SPEAKER_03: That invitation is available today, even if yesterday was confusing.
- 7:07SPEAKER_03: Tuning in to God can begin with a simple prayer.
- 7:10SPEAKER_03: Lord help me see what is true, even when I wish something else were true.
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: Then give yourself room to observe what happens when you say no?
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: Can you disagree without being punished?
- 7:22SPEAKER_01: Do their actions match their words?
- 7:24SPEAKER_01: When they apologize, does their behavior change?
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: Do you feel free to tell the truth about the relationship to someone you trust?
- 7:31SPEAKER_01: Jesus taught in Matthew 7, verse 16 that people are recognized by their fruit.
- 7:37SPEAKER_01: Fruit takes observation.
- 7:39SPEAKER_01: You don't determine the health of an apple tree because it introduces itself as a pear tree with excellent Christian values.
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: You look at what it produces.
- 7:48SPEAKER_03: That's so true, and spiritual language does not cancel harmful behavior.
- 7:52SPEAKER_03: Someone can quote scripture, attend church, and say, God brought us together while still treating you badly.
- 7:59SPEAKER_03: God's name is not a permission slip for someone else's control.
- 8:03SPEAKER_03: And be gentle with yourself about feelings.
- 8:06SPEAKER_03: Anxiety can make an ordinary disagreement feel frightening.
- 8:09SPEAKER_03: Familiarity can make an unhealthy pattern feel strangely comfortable.
- 8:14SPEAKER_03: Attraction can arrive with enough fireworks to obscure the fact that the building is on fire.
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: A feeling deserves attention, but it does not have to carry the whole decision.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: Bring your impressions into prayer.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: Compare the behavior with scripture.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: Seek wise counsel from someone who understands abuse and respects your freedom.
- 8:43SPEAKER_01: That statement does not end the conversation.
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it is a very good reason to begin asking more questions.
- 8:50SPEAKER_03: That's powerful.
- 8:51SPEAKER_03: So what's the fourth way?
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: The fourth way is to build Christ-centered values and boundaries before the next emotional emergency.
- 8:59SPEAKER_01: It's easier to recognize that something violates your values when you have already named those values.
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, you may find yourself negotiating basic respect while emotionally attached to somebody who considers accountability an attack on their civil liberties.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: Write down what a Christ-centered relationship should make room for: truth, kindness, faithfulness, self-control, mutual respect.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: The freedom to say no.
- 9:26SPEAKER_03: Galatians 5, verses 22 to 23 describes the fruit of the Spirit, including love, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, and self-control.
- 9:37SPEAKER_03: Those qualities give us something concrete to look for.
- 9:40SPEAKER_03: They do not mean a healthy person never gets frustrated.
- 9:43SPEAKER_03: They mean frustration does not become a standing excuse for humiliation, intimidation, or control.
- 9:48SPEAKER_03: Then turn your values into boundaries.
- 9:50SPEAKER_03: A value says, respect matters to me.
- 9:53SPEAKER_03: A boundary says, if you begin insulting me, I will end the conversation.
- 9:58SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: A value says, I need freedom to maintain healthy relationships.
- 10:03SPEAKER_01: A boundary says, I will continue spending time with trusted friends and family.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: A value says, honesty matters.
- 10:11SPEAKER_01: A boundary says, repeated dishonesty means I will step back from this relationship.
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: A boundary describes what you will do.
- 10:18SPEAKER_01: It is not a magic sentence that makes another person cooperate.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: Sadly, there is no perfect phrase that transforms someone who enjoys control into a considerate adult with a calendar and excellent conflict skills.
- 10:31SPEAKER_03: Jesus himself took time away from crowds to pray, as Luke 5, verse 16 describes.
- 10:37SPEAKER_03: Even when people wanted more from him, constant availability was not the measure of his love.
- 10:43SPEAKER_03: You do not have to be endlessly available to prove yours, and you do not have to wait for physical violence before taking emotional abuse seriously.
- 10:50SPEAKER_03: Threats, intimidation, persistent degradation, and controlling behavior deserve attention.
- 10:56SPEAKER_03: You can decide a relationship is harmful without obtaining the other person's agreement.
- 11:00SPEAKER_01: If leaving could provoke retaliation, seek support, and make a practical safety plan.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: You do not owe someone a dramatic announcement, or one final private meeting, to demonstrate that your boundary is sincere.
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: A Christ-centered boundary can be compassionate and firm.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: It can also be very short.
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not comfortable with that.
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: We tend to add 17 paragraphs because we want the other person to approve.
- 11:28SPEAKER_01: But your boundary does not become valid only after someone who dislikes it gives it five stars.
- 11:33SPEAKER_03: That's so good.
- 11:34SPEAKER_03: So the fifth way?
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: The fifth way is to let regret become wisdom instead of your identity.
- 11:40SPEAKER_01: There is a difference between, I overlooked something important, and I am someone who cannot be trusted.
- 11:48SPEAKER_01: The first statement identifies something you can learn from.
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: The second turns a painful experience into a permanent description of your character.
- 11:56SPEAKER_01: You may have missed warning signs.
- 11:58SPEAKER_01: You may have explained some away.
- 12:00SPEAKER_01: You may have returned after promising yourself you wouldn't.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: You can grieve those decisions, but you are still allowed to grow.
- 12:07SPEAKER_03: Romans chapter 8, verse 1 speaks of freedom from condemnation in Christ.
- 12:11SPEAKER_03: That does not mean pretending nothing happened.
- 12:14SPEAKER_03: It means your healing does not require a daily ceremony in which you remind yourself how badly you failed.
- 12:19SPEAKER_03: When self-blame returns, try three questions.
- 12:22SPEAKER_03: What do I know now?
- 12:24SPEAKER_03: What will I do differently?
- 12:26SPEAKER_03: What support will help me follow through?
- 12:28SPEAKER_03: Maybe you now know that you need to slow down before committing.
- 12:32SPEAKER_03: Maybe you will pay closer attention to how a person responds to disappointment.
- 12:37SPEAKER_03: Maybe you will tell a trusted friend when something feels wrong instead of protecting the relationship's appearance.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: Those are useful lessons.
- 12:46SPEAKER_00: Apparently, I'm an idiot is not a useful lesson.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: It's an insult wearing reading glasses.
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: And remember the Samaritan woman in John chapter 4?
- 12:55SPEAKER_00: Jesus knew her complicated relationship history, yet he spoke with her, revealed truth to her, and treated her as someone capable of receiving and sharing something meaningful.
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: That passage does not tell us that her relationships were abusive.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: We shouldn't invent that part of her story.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: But we can see that Jesus did not reduce her to her relationship history.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: You do not have to reduce yourself to yours.
- 13:18SPEAKER_03: You are more than the person who stayed.
- 13:21SPEAKER_03: You are also the person learning to recognize truth, the person rebuilding, the person who can say, I wish I had known sooner, and then add, Thank God I am learning now.
- 13:34SPEAKER_03: So if you remember one thing today, let it be this.
- 13:38SPEAKER_03: You can wish you had seen the abuse sooner, without accepting blame for the abuse itself.
- 13:44SPEAKER_03: Give your past self some compassion.
- 13:47SPEAKER_03: That person was trying to make sense of something painful, often while still hoping it could become something good.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: Now you get to build with clearer values, stronger boundaries, wise support, and a growing willingness to listen when something does not feel right.
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: God can help you tell the truth about what happened, without turning that truth into hatred toward yourself.
- 14:09SPEAKER_01: And if you're asking I left them, now what?
- 14:12SPEAKER_01: My upcoming book is written for that next chapter, The Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Bible Companion, I Left Them, Now What?
- 14:20SPEAKER_01: Life After Narcissism comes out in July 2027.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: It will address healing after leaving, recognizing red flags in future relationships, and building boundaries that help protect the life you're rebuilding.
- 14:33SPEAKER_03: Because leaving may end a relationship, but learning to feel at home in your own life is its own journey.
- 14:40SPEAKER_03: Subscribe to the Toxic Relationship Podcast for more conversations about healing, faith, boundaries, and moving forward.
- 14:47SPEAKER_03: I'm Jake O'Connell, here with my co-host Shannon Alder.
- 14:51SPEAKER_03: And before we go, let's pray.
- 14:53SPEAKER_03: Heavenly Father, help us release the blame that does not belong to us.
- 14:57SPEAKER_03: Meet our regret with mercy and our confusion with wisdom.
- 15:00SPEAKER_03: Teach us to recognize truth.
- 15:03SPEAKER_03: Listen for your guidance, and build relationships rooted in respect and love.
- 15:07SPEAKER_03: Give us courage to set boundaries, accept support, and step away from harm.
- 15:11SPEAKER_03: Help us trust that our past does not disqualify us from a hopeful future with you.
- 15:17SPEAKER_03: In Jesus' name, Amen.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: Amen.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: And now, Jake, I think you have a special message for our listeners.
- 15:24SPEAKER_02: Yes, I do.
- 15:26SPEAKER_02: Before we go, I want to encourage everyone to visit ShannonOuter.com to subscribe to Shannon's newsletter.
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- 15:43SPEAKER_02: We love to have you.
- 15:44SPEAKER_02: Until next time, stay positive and keep healing.