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Jaguars Happy Hour | Week 1 Keys to Success: Establishing the Run, Deploying Travis Hunter & More · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September 10th.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now, a guy who
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  Speaker 2: believes the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should be
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  Speaker 2: relocated to Atlantic Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Sexton.
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  Speaker 3: Probably a better chance I'd go to it if it
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  Speaker 3: was in Atlantic Beach, right? Although I was there, the
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  Speaker 3: draft was there in 2021. Thank you for that, by
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  Speaker 3: the way. A mysterious voice from another room. I was
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  Speaker 3: there in 2021. It was just still kind of COVID-y.
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  Speaker 3: And I wanted to go in the Rock and Roll
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, and I was told I couldn't. It
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  Speaker 3: was closed, right? So if it's Atlantic Beach, I'm going.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with two rock stars of Jaguars fame. Jeff Lagerman
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  Speaker 3: is here, and Mark Duffner is here. How are you guys?
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  Speaker 4: Doing great.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, it's the.
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  Speaker 3: First Thursday before the start of the regular season, and
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  Speaker 3: normally we'd be talking about football begins tonight, but it
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  Speaker 3: began last night. You know they're going to play football
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  Speaker 3: every night of the week this year, every day of
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  Speaker 3: the week, I should say, other than Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And that's probably coming at some point in time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think the Mac may play games
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  Speaker 2: on Tuesday night, Mac College.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mid-American Conference.
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  Speaker 1: What else do you want to watch?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: You want to watch MASH reruns? No, I'll take the
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  Speaker 1: NFL every night.
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  Speaker 3: Did you watch any of the game last night, by
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  Speaker 3: the way?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, until I fell asleep in the third quarter, and
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  Speaker 5: then I just said, you know, I've got to call
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  Speaker 5: it a night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the game too. And, again, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you saw some good play. You saw some opening game mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: But it was good to see pro football again.
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  Speaker 1: Did you make it to the whole thing?
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  Speaker 4: No, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Did not.
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  Speaker 3: We had that conversation earlier today.
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  Speaker 4: Did not.
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  Speaker 3: We're in the Hyundai Studios here inside the Miller Electric Center,
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  Speaker 3: and we've got a big show for you leading up
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  Speaker 3: to Liam Cohen's debut on the show this year. He
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  Speaker 3: will join us in hour number two, plus we'll hear
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  Speaker 3: from Tony Buscelli and James Gladstone. So you've got the
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  Speaker 3: bonus plan being with us here this evening. Jaguars getting
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  Speaker 3: ready to play the Cleveland Browns. We've got a lot
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  Speaker 3: to talk about in this first hour. I want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about the running game to get started, because... There
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  Speaker 3: are so many of what they call these next-gen stats.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know whether you ever dive into the next-gen stats,
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  Speaker 3: but let me read a couple of them to you, right?
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  Speaker 1: Laymo me.
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  Speaker 3: Success rate. RYOE. Rushing yards over expected. EPA per play.
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  Speaker 1: Expected.
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  Speaker 3: Points added. And DVOA, which is... I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: it means. I didn't write it down, but I wrote
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  Speaker 3: down how efficient was the play compared with NFL average
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  Speaker 3: accounting for opponent.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I just I'm fascinated by this. I probably should have
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  Speaker 3: looked at it years ago, but it's just it's not
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  Speaker 3: an easy thing to explain on the radio. It's on TV.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you put graphics up and show things. So
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  Speaker 3: I kind of always stayed away from it. But there's
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  Speaker 3: some interesting numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And what you just went over is new. That stuff's
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  Speaker 2: recent now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's recent. The younger listeners.
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  Speaker 5: It's the analytics infusion in the National Football League, which
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  Speaker 5: is vastly different.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still kind of old school.
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  Speaker 5: I go to yards per carry, yards per game, rankings
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  Speaker 5: amongst teams in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way I look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Yards after contact. Those are things that have been.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Time testing.
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  Speaker 1: And easy to understand. Easy to understand.
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  Speaker 3: That's essentially what RYO is, the run yards over expected,
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  Speaker 3: is what does the running back do beyond what the
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  Speaker 3: blockers did? We gave him something. What does he do
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  Speaker 3: with it? I thought it was fascinating. But I had
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  Speaker 3: heard a lot of people, both on the national level
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  Speaker 3: and here in the.
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  Speaker 1: Building, talking about it. Let me just jump in real quick.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: The number that you're talking about there, yards over expected,
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  Speaker 5: that is a completely subjective stat. And that's one of
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  Speaker 5: the reasons why I kind of have a hard time
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  Speaker 5: with some of those analytics.
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  Speaker 3: Well, someone's looking at the tape in that case, and
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  Speaker 3: they're saying, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And who?
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at it, you may say, well, you
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  Speaker 1: know what? He should have got like seven yards.
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  Speaker 5: And I look at it and go, hey, you didn't
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  Speaker 5: have anything there, Brian. He could have actually gotten minus one.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Totally agree with you on that one. But I looked
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  Speaker 3: and I've heard people talk about how the Jaguars run
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  Speaker 3: numbers have dropped or dropped significantly. Late last season. And
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  Speaker 3: so I just decided to dive into it a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to run this one by you. The Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: averaged 115.1 rushing yards per game last year. Not bad, right?
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  Speaker 3: It was good for 20th in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Let me say this to you. I've been on a
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  Speaker 4: lot of teams. I'd take that in a minute.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: No problem. But over the final six games, and here's
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  Speaker 3: which brings me to the question. Long way around, right?
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  Speaker 3: 91.2 yards per game over the final six. Just 3.3
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  Speaker 3: yards per carry. Remarkably, they went 6-0. They kept winning.
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  Speaker 3: So it begs the question, what can this offense be
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  Speaker 3: if the running game can be consistent? I'm talking four
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  Speaker 3: yards a carry, 105 yards a game, whatever. You choose
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  Speaker 3: the number.
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  Speaker 1: Like they were at the beginning of last year? Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: To play consistent football. It leads me to one more
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  Speaker 3: number that I want to share with you. And that
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  Speaker 3: is that, and this one is not a subjective, the
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars running backs were hit at or behind the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage last year. 56.4% of the time, which speaks
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  Speaker 3: to the offensive line, obviously. So a lot of numbers
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  Speaker 3: out there to dive into. But I want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about what you guys think success is for Liam Cohen's
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  Speaker 3: football team running the ball this week.
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you go first, Tuff, on this one.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let me say this. I think he's going to
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  Speaker 4: come out trying to establish that.
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  Speaker 2: Everything feeds off of that. The better we run the ball,
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  Speaker 2: the better the passing game is going to occur. And
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  Speaker 2: here's one of the keys to the game. we have
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  Speaker 2: to control the line of scrimmage. If we control the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, what I mean by that is win
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  Speaker 2: first down. Put our offense in manageable down and distance.
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  Speaker 2: Defensively disrupt them. Stop the run. Put our defense in
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  Speaker 2: manageable down and distance. Physicality and running the ball are
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  Speaker 2: going to be big components in that objective for us
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  Speaker 2: to win the football game. We're going to need to
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  Speaker 2: control the ball. Running game will help that. You mentioned
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  Speaker 2: those numbers right there just a minute ago. The yard's
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  Speaker 2: After contact, Chris Rodriguez, our number 24 addition right now,
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  Speaker 2: was second in the NFL in yards after contact. Game, 3.9.
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  Speaker 2: So throwing out another statistic for you.
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  Speaker 3: And you could kill people with chats. I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But we've got to be able to run the ball
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  Speaker 2: when we need to, meaning four-minute, meaning short yardage, and
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  Speaker 2: meaning positive first-down plays.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it simple. Give me four yards
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  Speaker 1: of carry average and I think you're doing pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, we'll be going woo woo.
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  Speaker 4: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And on first down in particular, let me get this
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  Speaker 3: part is, is that And I asked Tony Buscelli this.
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  Speaker 3: I said, what does success look like? And he said,
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  Speaker 3: four yards on first down.
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  Speaker 1: Specific.
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  Speaker 3: He was hyper-specific about first down. The importance.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love four, too.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'll take four or five. I'm with you.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Rodriguez was four or five, I think, last
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  Speaker 5: year at Cary.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 5: I think success can have a lot of different dress codes,
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  Speaker 5: so to speak, or look different ways.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's some.
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  Speaker 5: For example, if you're playing the Seattle Seahawks and you're
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  Speaker 5: rushing for 3.9, you're doing pretty good. If you're playing
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  Speaker 5: a team that is not very good against the run
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  Speaker 5: and is really playing back to prevent big plays, and
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  Speaker 5: all of a sudden your goal should be higher than that.
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  Speaker 5: So I think everything is always different. And what's the
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  Speaker 5: effective number to allow you to have balance and to
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  Speaker 5: allow you to dictate the terms of the game? I
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  Speaker 5: think that's what success is. And success can have a
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  Speaker 5: lot of different looks.
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  Speaker 3: The ability to run the ball would set up, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: more time for Trevor to be able to look down
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  Speaker 3: the field and throw the.
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  Speaker 1: Ball, right?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the big play aspect, and that's what running
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  Speaker 5: the football does. And Tom Coughlin and I had many
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  Speaker 5: conversations about this on the sideline.
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  Speaker 1: Over the last couple years.
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  Speaker 3: Were you yelling at each other?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 1: This was a civil conversation.
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  Speaker 5: And look, the big plays, majority of them come in
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  Speaker 5: play action. And in order to have that, which is
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  Speaker 5: extra time to allow the routes to get deeper for
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  Speaker 5: big chunk plays, explosive plays, you have to keep the
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  Speaker 5: defense off balance, which means you've got to run the
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  Speaker 5: ball effectively so that when you do stick it in
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  Speaker 5: the belly of the running back and pull it back out,
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  Speaker 5: they're sucking up. And that's, you know, a big factor
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  Speaker 5: in the explosive play category. So, you know, I think
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  Speaker 5: if you've got a guy that wears a number seven, okay,
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  Speaker 5: and going against a former Jaguar that has a hard
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  Speaker 5: time with the deep ball, I'm just kind of putting
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  Speaker 5: it out to this.
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  Speaker 3: Shit about brian thomas jr against tyson.
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  Speaker 5: Campbell yes and that was never tyson's strength was playing
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  Speaker 5: ball down the field.
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  Speaker 3: Since you bring it up trevor lawrence was asked this
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  Speaker 3: week about throwing the ball down the field against denzel
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  Speaker 3: ward who is an excellent cornerback and against his former
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  Speaker 3: teammate tyson campbell so let's hear from the quarterback about
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  Speaker 3: taking shots down the field against this browns defense.
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  Speaker 6: Good dbs in this league that's a that's a battle
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  Speaker 6: of A lot of respect for those guys in Tyson
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  Speaker 6: as well. I've played with him for a few years here.
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  Speaker 6: Those guys are good players. We've got good players too.
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  Speaker 6: They know that we're going to throw at them, that
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  Speaker 6: we're going to get opportunities to go at them, and
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  Speaker 6: we've got to make them count. I've got to put
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  Speaker 6: the ball in places where only our guys can get it.
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  Speaker 6: Guys have got to go and make those plays, whether
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  Speaker 6: it's down the field or wherever. Guys have got to
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  Speaker 6: go and go take it. from them.
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  Speaker 3: I love the way he stood at the podium with
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  Speaker 3: his arms crossed. Those are good players. We've got good players, too.
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  Speaker 3: There's a confidence level that he's got. But what you've said,
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  Speaker 3: and the point is, is if you can run the
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  Speaker 3: ball and gain 4.2 or 4.5 yards on first down,
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden now you're really licking your chops
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  Speaker 3: at the opportunity of how that opens the playbook.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that, and that's putting major stress
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  Speaker 2: on the defense. Again, you're winning the sticks battle, winning
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  Speaker 2: the chains battle as far as that's concerned, and that's
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  Speaker 2: the stress that defensive coaches don't want.
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  Speaker 5: The one aspect that I think that because we live
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  Speaker 5: it here every day, that we kind of gloss it over,
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  Speaker 5: and a lot of attention this week on the Cleveland
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  Speaker 5: Browns offensive line, that we're giving it because they've got
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  Speaker 5: five new starters.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking about, hey, the importance of running the football,
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  Speaker 5: which you always want to be able to run the
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  Speaker 5: football as an offense. Well, I think this is somewhat
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  Speaker 5: because we're so close to it sometimes we ignore the
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  Speaker 5: fact that, look, our offensive line for the most part,
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  Speaker 5: with the exception of one position, is all brand new
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  Speaker 5: this year as well. I mean, think about it. Anton
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  Speaker 5: was right tackle last year. He's left tackle this year.
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  Speaker 5: Ezra was left guard last year. He's right guard. You
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  Speaker 5: got Pregnon, the rookie, at left guard. The only one
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  Speaker 5: that's back in the spot is Pregnon. What happens at
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  Speaker 5: right tackle, we don't know. Is it Walker Little or
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  Speaker 5: is it Cole Van Landen? We'll have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 5: But because we're so close to it, let's not forget that.
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  Speaker 5: And running the football with any offensive line that has
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  Speaker 5: undergone a lot of change from one year to the next,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's the Cleveland Browns or the Jacksonville Jaguars, because
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  Speaker 5: you've got to put our football team in that category,
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  Speaker 5: it's the same deal. And the importance of running the
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  Speaker 5: football is important for both teams this week.
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  Speaker 3: The Browns are a top three run And I think
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  Speaker 3: we heard earlier today that against 11 personnel, which is
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  Speaker 3: one running back and one tight end, which is a
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  Speaker 3: standard formation, they were the number one run defense in
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  Speaker 3: football in that very specific setting. So how do you
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  Speaker 3: think that this newly aligned offensive line with Pregnon, obviously
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  Speaker 3: Robert Hainsey's the one guy who's back in the spot,
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  Speaker 3: and Ezra Cleveland moves over to the right side, and
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  Speaker 3: he had two really good joint practices, Panthers and Bucs,
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  Speaker 3: in August.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: What's your sense of how good this offensive line can be?
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  Speaker 1: Well, can they be an elite offensive line? I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Is it likely? Probably not. Can they be a high,
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  Speaker 5: middle-of-the-road offensive line? I think that they can be. But
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  Speaker 5: they've got to kind of be on their P's and Q's,
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  Speaker 5: for lack of a better term, and they've got to
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  Speaker 5: play well to be able to achieve that status.
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  Speaker 1: And so... We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of that comes from what Jeff's talking
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  Speaker 2: about and you're talking about, continuity of working together. We've
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  Speaker 2: got to, as you probably just stated, we've got some
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  Speaker 2: new guys in new positions. It takes time for that
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  Speaker 2: to gel. We're going to need it to happen at
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  Speaker 2: 1 o'clock in the stadium here against, really, I think
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  Speaker 2: the strength of their defense is that front seven that
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  Speaker 2: you just alluded to in terms of their ranking as
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  Speaker 2: a defensive front.
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  Speaker 3: How about pass protections?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, pass protection is a lot easier if
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  Speaker 5: you're running the ball real well. I mean, so, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that's a big part of it. And so when you're
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  Speaker 5: third and two, third and three, second and six, second
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  Speaker 5: and five, it's a lot easier to pass protect at
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  Speaker 5: those down and distance. I mean, it's just, it's fact.
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  Speaker 5: And so that's why you have the importance of running
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  Speaker 5: the football. And with the first game, I think it's
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  Speaker 5: always the week of great unknowns. And I think that
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  Speaker 5: puts a premium on running the football. And the Cleveland
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  Speaker 5: Browns are probably preaching the same thing behind their door.
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  Speaker 5: And for them, they've got five new offensive linemen. They've
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  Speaker 5: got Three receivers, two of them are rookies.
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  Speaker 1: Two rookies.
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  Speaker 5: They've got a young back, and they've got a quarterback
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  Speaker 5: who hasn't played meaningful football in two years.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you think they're talking about the importance of
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  Speaker 1: running the football? Doggone right. Quit Sean Junkins.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to try to feed him the rock a bunch,
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  Speaker 5: and so I hope our number one ranked run defense
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  Speaker 5: from last year is picking up where they left off.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got to be up to the challenge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the last time Todd Munkin, the current head
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  Speaker 2: coach at Cleveland, came in as the offensive coordinator coordinator
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  Speaker 2: with the Ravens, they ran it for about 250 yards
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  Speaker 2: against the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 4: Now, people are different. It's different.
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  Speaker 6: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the mentality. And I know Monk's mentality. He's
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  Speaker 2: going to want to run that ball. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: run it out of one back. He's going to run
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  Speaker 2: it out of two back. He's going to run gap runs,
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  Speaker 2: which are like traps and powers. He's going to run
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  Speaker 2: direct runs.
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  Speaker 4: And who knows?
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  Speaker 2: He may come in with the tail end green in
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  Speaker 2: the Lamar Jackson package.
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  Speaker 3: Hold that thought, because Josh Hines-Allen was asked about that game,
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  Speaker 3: and his response is priceless. He talked yesterday in the
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  Speaker 3: locker room, and we'll hear that when we come back.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: 15 minutes is already gone, folks. We have 45 more
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: with Mark Duffner here on Jags Happy Hour. And then
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: at the top of the hour, we bring in Liam Cohen,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Tony Buscelli, James Gladstone for Jags HQ. This is the
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: source for Jaguars news and information. And you're listening on 1010XL,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: 92.5 FM, and all the Jaguars social channels, including our
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: YouTube channel. And we're back after this. And welcome back
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: to Jags Happy Hour. Brian, Mark, and Jeff with you
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: here on 1010XL 92.5 and all the Jaguars channels. We
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: turn our attention to the defensive coverage of the game.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: And in this case, we're going to talk defense. Brought
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: to you by GEHA, Government Employees Health Association. We mentioned
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Josh Heinz-Allen and his pointed response. to the question of
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Todd Monken's success that Mark just shared with us. So
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: let's hear from the Jaguar star defensive end on his
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: expectations for the Jaguars' run defense on Sunday.
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: Our motto is to stop the run. So by any means,
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: they're not running that ball that much on us. So
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: I expect, you know, coming out and running the ball,
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, his philosophy of how he sees
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: the game, yes, I expect that. But, you know, 230 yards,
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: that's not happening.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: So.
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: Respect for him.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: He was trying to hold it in. I think he
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: started that conversation with, that ain't happening, right? I heard
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: it before I saw the look on his face. That
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: ain't happening. Listen, Jags were number one overall against the
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: run last year, 85.6 yards per game. They were the
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: only team in the league that didn't allow a running
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: back to run for more than 75 yards in a game,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: which says a lot about how talented they are. And
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: it all starts up front with one Devon Hamilton. Your
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: thoughts on how this run game... looks this year without
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd. You've got Dentro Miller and Brandon Combs. So
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: let's talk about the run defense.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Well, go ahead.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: You go ahead.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: Well, it starts with the two big guys, and everybody
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: wants to talk about Devon Hamilton, but I'm going to
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: go also with Matt Dickerson because I think he's just
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: as big of a part of that run defense as anybody.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: And it's amazing because he came off the Dolphins practice
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: squad last year, and they found a stalwart in the middle.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: And they were very fortunate to get him, and then
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: he just developed. And what I love about him is
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: that he plays the game like a bully.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, he does. Literally, he pushes and shoves, and
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: there's extracurricular stuff.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, he fights.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Right to the echo of the whistle.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: He's a fighter.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: He's not a nice guy. He's a really nice guy
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: off the field. And you've got to be a mean
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: guy playing that spot, no doubt. No, he knocks the
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: line back. He disrupts the blocking schemes. I mean, I
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: love the guy's play, man.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: All for him.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's going to have a big role
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: in this game. And then when you get to second
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: and seven plus, here comes Eric Armstead.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yep, love it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: And so you really don't have two starters in the inside.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: You really have three.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: And we think Eric Armstead had as good a camp
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: as anybody.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: He was unblockable.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Now, after you get past those three– I think there's
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: a question mark, you know, about who's it going to be.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, is it going to be the rookie or
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: is it the row, row, row? I don't know.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody knows at this point.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: No, they're developing right now, and they'll get their opportunity
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: to show. But I love the three guys that Jeff
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: just talked about in terms of what they bring to
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the front, which we've got to have that kind of
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: power in there.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Can I just get your comment on Devon Hamilton? Because
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: last year– Josh Heinz-Allen would not stop talking about Devon
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: and didn't think that enough people saw what Devon meant
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: to the middle of this defense. So from your very
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: learned positions, give us a sense of just how important
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: or how good Devon Hamilton is for this run defense.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: When Josh said that we had the best nose tackle
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: in football last year in training camp, I kind of
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: scoffed a little bit. I'm going to be honest with you.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, because at that point last year, he was not.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: And he still hadn't found his way back from the
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: injury that kept him out for a period of time.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: And so I give Devon a lot of credit because
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: he may not have been there when Josh said it,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: but he worked his way to where he is one
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: of the best ones or zeros in the league as
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: far as against the run. And I give him a
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: lot of credit because he had a significant injury.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Well, let me say this to you. Again, credit to him,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: credit to his coaches. And by the way, if I'm
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the linebackers, I'm taking Devon out for dinner every week because, again,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: he eats up not only does he eat up blockers,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: take four hands to block him, meaning two guys, but
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: he knocks the line back. The linebackers now have a
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: great lane to make plays, whether it's inside or outside
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: in terms of their pursuit angles to the ball. This guy,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'm with Jeff, as the season went on, I'm not
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: sure anybody played any better as a one technique or
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: a nose tackle than this guy.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: He can rush the passer, too.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's– if you put him– With hand on
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the ground and get his feet staggered just a little bit,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's an alignment in the league that can.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Stop his power bull rush.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: And I don't think they want to either. By the way,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: he can also long snap. You know, I think he's
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: done that before.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: We did last year. What game was that that he
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: did that in last year?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: It was the Titans game in Tennessee.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: No, but you talk about a guy that's of value. But, again,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I'm with him.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: What he can give you internally in terms of run defense, defense,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: using up blockers, but also affecting the quarterback, which we
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: need to get from the interior there.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I love him.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you guys a question.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: They list him at 6'4, 335. They're not giving him
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: enough credit.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: What's the chances of 335 being pretty close?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, if the linebackers are taking him out to
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: dinner every week, there's no chance.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I think that's a little on the minimum side. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: can share that with you.
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  Speaker 3: He is a big man.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: And he's one of the most– intelligent, soft-spoken guys that
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: you'll ever meet.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I love the guy. I mean, I'm with you on that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: And, again, as I said to you, I mean, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: those guys in there, they're kind of the unsung heroes.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: They don't get the front page statistics and glory they should,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: but we can't win without them. I promise you that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And that's the reason why this is the number one
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: run defense in the league.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Now, the guys behind them, obviously it's changed this year.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: You still have Foye. And he's a super productive middle linebacker.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: But over on the other side, you've got Ventrell Miller
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: and Branson Combs. And the question's been asked, how are
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: they going to use these guys? So what do you
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: expect to see on Sunday against Quid Sean Jenkins and
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: the Browns?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to get a big dose of
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Ventrell Miller. That's just me right now starting off. But
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I feel good about either one of them. But I've
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: been impressed by the physical downhill play of Ventrell Miller.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Not just coming down and busting people and and being physical,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: but getting off of blocks and making plays and having
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the ability to make tackles for loss, that type of stuff.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: So I feel good about both of them playing. I'm
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: sure we'll see them both, but I probably would lean
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit more towards number 51.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to be interesting to see what
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: they do. I mean, could they play 51 a bunch?
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Could they play Branson Combs a bunch? I don't know
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: what they're going to do. I do know one thing.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: With Deshaun Watson... watching the little bit of film that
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: he had, which was available, he's moving pretty good. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: one of the things that he did best going back
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: when he was playing some ball, like significant ball, he
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: always was a running threat. And any of the run
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: pass option stuff that he could do, as a linebacker, Duff,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, it sucks playing linebacker.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: When you're facing RPOs.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, for sure. No, it's the worst. It's a nightmare
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: for you.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: So the better that you do, again, going back to
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: that stop and the run game, okay, it's a lot
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: more frequent to see the RPO stuff and those kind
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: of undecisive downs, you know, or second and four, you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: third and three, as opposed to when you're second and
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: eight and third and seven plus. Look, the RPO goes
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: out the window. You don't even pay attention to it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: So it's going to be important, again, to stop that run.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, but a lot of what Todd Munkin's all
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: about with the run game and play-action pass is just
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: what you're describing. So we're going to see a good
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: dose of it. By the way, what Jeff said about Watson,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: he's a tough, he's a big guy and a strong guy.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: You know, he is a threat to not only run
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and extend plays, and that's when your explosive plays go.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: But he's a tough guy to get down.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: So, you know, we're going to have to tackle and
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: grab a hold of any body part we can and
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: get this guy down.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: He ran for 20 yards the last time when he
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: was here and beat the Jaguars 18-13 in week two
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: of 2024. 20 yards. And he threw for 186 and
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: no touchdowns. But he converted a couple of third and
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: twos and a couple of third and sixes in key
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: moments of the bowl game and leaned on their defense
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: and walked out of here with a sneaky little win,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: you know? Do you suppose that's what they're going to
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: ask him to do again? with rookie receivers and a
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: rebuilt offensive line. And Quinshot-Junkins, who's a very good back,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: but he's coming off of an injury.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think there's any doubt that they're going to–
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: it's not like they're going to come out and say, hey,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: let's just let him throw the ball all over the yard.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: It's just, you know, with a quarterback that's been inactive
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: and you had a quarterback battle going on throughout.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: The training camp.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But they had a couple weapons.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, Harold Phan in the tight end and Jerry Judy.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good player. Jerry Judy's a good player.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: But, I mean– Reality is, I mean, it's hard to
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: find consistency when you're trying to figure out who your
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: quarterback is in camp.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: So what you're saying is they're going to run the
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: ball as much as possible.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: As much as they can.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I think, like Jeff's saying, I think it's going to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: be run. I think it's going to be play action.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: It's going to be get this guy on the edge
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit with bootlegs and then be ready for
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the screen game.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: What I love, too, about watching Deshaun Watson in preseason
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: is that his feet, he's got happy feet. I mean,
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: I think that's kind of a sign of the inactivity.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking almost two full years of not
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: being a quarterback in the National Football League. And it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: not like– I mean, the weight of the world probably
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: is on his shoulders, at least the weight of Cleveland
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: is on his shoulders a little bit. And so if
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: things aren't kind of going right, you know, you just wonder–
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: how much that mind of his and his feet are
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: going to be working.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: A little bit faster.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: And watching, like you talked about, a preseason game, especially
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: against Chicago where they played their first group, he was
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: pretty quick to go from one progression to either tuck
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: it and run.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Eyes dropped.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: You could feel that. Eyes were down low. And, you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: he's aiming the ball.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, what you described is accurate right now.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Run game, quick passing game, play action. I think that's
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: what we'll see.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: The Browns were last season. in yards, receptions, and touchdown
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: catches by wide receivers, which is why they drafted two
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: guys in the top 40, and which is just another
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: reason why, behind a rebuilt offensive line, they're probably going
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: to ask Deshaun Watson to turn and hand the ball off.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Well, and one of my players to watch for this
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: game with that Browns offensive line being new and then
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: also young at the left tackle spot, the ninth overall
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: pick of the draft, Spencer Faneau is starting there. And
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: watched the film on him. Really good feet, patient, big
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: and strong. Got a little bit of a weakness there
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: about kind of opening the gate a little bit at
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: the top of his set, which I expect Josh to
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: really kind of.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Take advantage of.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: But the other thing, too, is that Josh Heinz Allen
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: had what I thought was the best training camp he's
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: ever had since going back to his record-setting year.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And you heard me.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Say before about how hard he's been working in this
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: training camp, how well conditioned he is. I think that's
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: a great matchup. It's a great matchup.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. I can't wait to see that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: He was unblockable in the joint practice against Tampa Bay.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: In fact, I'm not sure I ever saw a more
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: dominant practice by any position than I saw by that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: So he, you know, and really our team right now,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the joint practice was, The way we want it, we
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: dominated the Bucs. We dominated the Bucs in the preseason game.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I expect we'll carry that momentum and that confident play
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: into this ballgame.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: And with Faneu, the ninth overall pick, starting left tackle,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns, he hasn't played left tackle since his
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: freshman year in college.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: You know that?
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: He was right tackle the last two years, which were
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: his junior and sophomore years.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: And then you've got to go back to.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: His freshman year where he started, I think it was
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: 11 games at left tackle. But then he's been a
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: right tackle. I'm not saying that he can't play left tackle.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying that I think that's interesting and makes
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: it kind of worth watching.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Amen to that. Like you said, they're shuffling the deck
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: over there, too.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I remember in 2009 when the Jaguars went to Indianapolis
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: with Eugene Monroe, and he met a guy named Dwight Freeney.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I was here.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I remember him very well, too.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: And Eugene was a big, strong guy with long arms
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and a pretty good player. But, I mean, Dwight Freeney
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: is a Hall of Famer for a reason.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Fastest first step in the history of the national football.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Where'd he go? Where'd who go? All right, we've reached
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: the bottom of the hour. Let's take a break. We'll
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: come back. We've got the injury report, so we'll have
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: our UF health injury report and more with Mark Duffner
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: and Jeff Langeman here on Jag's Happy Hour on 1010XL
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: 92.5 and on the Jaguars YouTube channel. Back in just
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: a moment. Rolling right along here, Brian, Jeff, and Mark Duffner,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: and we have the Thursday injury report. So let's get
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: right to our UF Health injury report brought to you
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: by UF Health, the official health care provider of the
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. Three names for you on the report today.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: LaQuint Allen Jr. practiced in a limited fashion, which is
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: an improvement from Wednesday when he didn't practice.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: At all.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: So we'll see. Jacoby Myers and Cole Van Lannen both
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: listed as limited. And I think both of those guys
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: legitimately will be game time decisions. Maybe not Jacoby. Cole
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Van Lannen, I think, might go all the way up
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: to Sunday at 90 minutes.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I think it's always interesting because you got to kind of,
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: it's a long season. And so the first week, a
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: lot of times, I think you're more apt to be
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: a little bit on the cautious side of things just because,
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: you know, hey, look, you know, it's a long season. Let's,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: you know, we're healthy everywhere else. You know, we can
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: handle it. Let's just get them completely healthy before they
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: come back.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: So, but I don't know. You know, a lot of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: times we don't know.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: How, beat up or not beat up they are yeah
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: no i i have supreme confidence and trust in this
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: training staff what i saw them do last year getting
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: players back on board they recognize nationally by the nfl
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: in terms of how good they are so i'm i'm
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: sure they're following the pace of whatever's going to be
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: best for this ball club.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: How comfortable are you if walker little as they started
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: right tackle.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Uh i think i'm very comfortable with it and and
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: here's why Let's say Cole Van Lannen is available. Do
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I think he's a better player than Walker Little at
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: right tackle?
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: But after he's had a bunch of reps under his
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: belt and he's been practicing for a long time, but
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: if you look at it from an evaluation standpoint, Walker.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Little's played a lot of football recently at right tackle.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And he had two really good practices against the Panthers
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: and the Buccaneers.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: So I'm okay with, you know, again, you know, if
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: you have to be cautious or you want to be cautious,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: just to be sure, I think that that's not necessarily
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: a bad thing. But, you know, I also, again, haven't
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: been able to see Cole Van Linden in practice. No,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: but I, and I'm with you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I think what Walker Little's done and the, with the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: opportunities he's gotten recently, and I know he's got those snaps.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I'm more confident in that lineup right now than the
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: wonderment of how Cole's going to do coming off an injury.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: So.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Uh, I think we're in good shape.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: A very limited injury report, right? I mean, it's week one.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: We've got three guys on the report at this moment
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: in time.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And, um, I think Brian, you can't talk about that.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: You're going to, you're going to jinx the whole operation.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: You just got to stay away from talking about, boy,
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: they're really healthy.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Only three guys on.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I just said a limited injury report.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I thought I was dancing on the fine line of
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the edge.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Apparently not. I'm going to knock on this particle wood
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: right here.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: We're going to follow logs rules. Um, Let's talk about
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter because he is a guy who we haven't
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: talked a lot about. There's been other storylines to deal with,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: whether it was Parker Washington and his contract.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Has the shine wore off a little bit.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: On Travis?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Well, he was gone for 10 games last year.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: And he had an injury. We didn't see it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: So here's my question. What do you expect? What do
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: you hope to see from him on Sunday against the Browns?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I just see winning play. I hope he makes plays.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I know we're going to see high effort. I know
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: we're going to see high competitive effort, like I said,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: in production. I think every opportunity he gets is a
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: learning opportunity, so I hope he puts that in the bank.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: We already talked about an elite athlete. I think I
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: would drown him in as many reps as he can get.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: He needs them in game speed situations like this, so
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how he'll handle it. I know
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: he's going to compete fiercely.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: That's what I know.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to make you put your head coach
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: hat back on, Duff.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: If you're the head coach of this football team.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: And you've got him.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Okay?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: To be able to play for both sides of the ball,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: what would you do?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I would start him at corner, and I'd have a
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: couple of plays for him on offense.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: A couple, not much.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Not much.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: Not much.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: No, sir.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, and to be specific, easy things for him.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: where he can display his athleticism. I'd screen to him.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I'd get him in space, jet sweep him. I'd gadget him,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: reverse him.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: That's what I'd do.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, now let me ask you a question again about him. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Would you ever consider putting him back as a punt returner?
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I absolutely would. I would, absolutely.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just thinking out loud here. I mean,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: you've got to think of an athlete.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we've got a bomb ready to go off
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: when he gets the ball. So any way I can
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: get him that without a whole lot of intricacy to it,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: that's what I want to do. That's why I'm saying screens, reverses,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: go balls, punt.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Return, let it fly.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Now, here's the interesting thing, because I love listening to
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: your commentary on this from a coach's standpoint, because why
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: would you want to have him– on defense for the
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: majority of his snaps well is it because of his
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: skill set or is it because of your comfort level
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: of what you have.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: On offense a little bit of both a little bit
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: of both first of all he's got an elite skill
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: set uh i believe he probably was the best corner
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: in college football when he came out okay so we
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: want to utilize that surplus of talent and uh and
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: again we want to continue to develop that. Only way
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: that's going to happen is through repetitions. So we've got
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: to continue to rep him, get his technique to where
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: it needs to be, not have him just rely on
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: his athleticism. But at the same time, we've got an
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: explosive weapon that he's broken people's ankles with his ability
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: to make people miss in space. So where we can
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: do that without putting too much on his plate, I'm
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: going to do.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: What should people expect? I mean, we talk about a lockdown,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: go run with the number one wide receiver on the
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: other team. Are we talking a Jalen Ramsey kind of
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: impact here? Takes away a third of the field? Is
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: he that good?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I think he's really good, but I also think he's
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: young in terms of technique. And he's not going to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: be able to take on number one receivers purely on
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: his athleticism. Technique is going to rear its head. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the more we can help him with that, the better.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I think he's got– major man coverage skills. I mean, like,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: put them all in one and say, you got them.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Is that what they want to do here?
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's not what they've done in the past.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: You know, so I have great confidence in that he
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: can play man coverage against anybody. And even though he's
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: got some inexperience, he makes up for some of that
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: inexperience with his speed and athleticism.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: And so that's where I gain confidence in that coverage.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Now, The experience and the knowledge and the savvy of
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: zone coverage, I think that takes a little bit of time,
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: you know, of reading, understanding routes. And then a lot
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: of times zone coverage is not just about going back
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: and standing in a spot. It's also kind of adjusting
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: to the route combinations themselves. that you have, which requires experience.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: And so I think from that aspect, he's going to,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: he's not going to like just jump out at you.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: It was like, Ooh, he's elite.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Uh, but I think in man coverage, when you watch him,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: you're going to go, wow, that guy's elite.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Well, the last game that we saw him play was
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: in Los, no, in London against Los Angeles. And there
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: was a third down play in the third quarter. It
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: was third and seven. And it was down the Ram
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: sideline and Matt Stafford threw it to Devante Adams. And
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: you remember the play because the footwork, Hunter ran the
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: route step for step with Adams and broke it up.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: The game had already been decided. It forced a punt,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: but it was a moment where you said, ooh, he's
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: good at this. And I think that this guy has,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: like you just said, potential to be an elite corner
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: because he's got great feet and I'm told elite ball skills.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: What does that mean? What does elite ball skills mean?
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Just what Jeff described. I mean, this guy can catch anything.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I've seen him go up. I've seen him climb the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: route trees a lot of people see. He can run
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the route, as you just described, in that ball game.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And this guy, he can catch anything, and he can
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: recover like anybody. So great body control, great balance. It's
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: going to be interesting to see, and this coaching staff
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: does a tremendous job of taking the strengths of a
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: player and fitting the scheme to their strengths, not the
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: other way around. So Jeff's thought, well, he could play
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: man to man. They can, they have coverage where he
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: could be maybe playing man to man. We're playing zone
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: over here. You know, the people play some two men.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: The risk of that is that you've got a scrambling
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: quarterback there back there.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: As soon as they know you're.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Playing man and they got man eyes and they're not
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: looking at the quarterback, that cat has a chance to run,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: meaning the quarterback. But I think that this staff does
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: a great job of taking advantage of the strengths. It'd
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see how they deploy them.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: You brought up Devontae Adams and, Devontae Adams might have
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: the greatest release of a wide receiver in NFL history.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, he gains great separation off the line of scrimmage.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: He is arguably the hardest or one of the hardest
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: wide receivers to ever try to get a piece of
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: at the.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Line of scrimmage. He's that good.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: And what Duff was talking about his recovery, that's why
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Travis was able to break up that play last year
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: is because Devontae gets separation at the line of scrimmage,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: but Travis has just such an innate athleticism and speed
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: to recover that that's something that you just can't coach.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: You know, that's a gift from God that he has,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: and it's amazing to watch. And so I look forward
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: to watching his skill set throughout the entire year on
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: either side of the ball, wherever that is going to be.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: And I think the great thing is is that with
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: a year under the belt, so to speak, as a
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: coaching staff, and also with that relationship between Travis and
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Liam and all the coaches, you know, I think there's
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: a comfort level of communication there that it's all going
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: to be happy. And here's the thing I will add.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: A lot of people kind of perceive because Travis says,
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: I'm a two-way player, I'm going to be a two-way player.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Because of that, what he says sometimes, that people would
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: think that if he's not full-time as a true two-way player,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: then he would be a disgruntled player.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Nothing could be farther from the truth.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: He's a team player all the way.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: He is a total team player. And so I just
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: want people to understand that, which.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: Makes him who he is. I mean, makes him a
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: great person and a great player that he is.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And on top of that, it's not a problem that
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: he can't do it. It's how the staff wants to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: utilize him. They may not utilize him that way. It
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that he failed in that task. He's capable
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: of that. We've seen that already.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: There's a little legend around the building of a game
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: last year where a coach from the offensive side said
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: to him, hey, we had some plays for you today.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: We just didn't get to them. And he was like, coach,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: we won. I don't care.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: That was Liam.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Coach, we won.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: That was Liam's conversation with him.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: How great is that?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now listen, for a star like that, a star
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: on and off the field to have that mindset, you
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: know reason why the Jaguars are willing to trade up
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: and get him. It's time for another break. We'll come
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: back another segment with Mark Duffner. And then at the
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: top of the hour, Liam Cohen will join us for
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: a segment. Then we'll hear from Tony Buscelli and James
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Gladstone during Jags HQ. More to come. One more segment
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: on Jags Happy Hour here on 1010XL and 92.5. And
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: we are back. Final segment of Jags Happy Hour. Glad
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: to have you with us here on 1010XL 92.5 and
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: all the Jaguars channels. It is time for our players
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: to watch. Presented by Mr. Chubby's Wings. Before the game,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: after the game, during the game, and on Loggie's way
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: home occasionally.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Love them. Halftime. Right on the way. Halftime.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I know where you live. I know where Chubby's is.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I know you know the distance.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite halftime events is eating Mr.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Chubby's Wings.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: And you've beckoned me in there sometimes.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Duff was like, hey, Duff, come on over.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to interrupt. He was beckoning me in.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I think maybe we need Mr. Chubbies to.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think Duff turned it down one time yet.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't either. Let's see them show up here.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: We would love that. In fact, I think he actually
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: intentionally wanders.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: Over towards the radio booth at halftime so that he
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: can get an invite.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Linger a little longer. There's a 1970s commercial for you. Hey,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: we were talking about Travis Hunter. Here's the head coach
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: on Travis Hunter from earlier this week.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: There's nothing like the emotion of a, of a game,
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: a stadium, you know, opponent, um, all those that go
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: into it. And now look, he's been doing this for
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: a very long time at a high level and played
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: in big games. He understands, you know, he's had to
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: come back from some injuries, obviously not as, as large
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: as this one, but, um, you know, I do trust that,
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: you know, he may have some jitters or whatever it
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: may be, but I'm sure a lot of guys will
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: have similar ones being game one, um, You know, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: I just, I'm happy for him.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Until the first time you're hit or you hit the jitters, right?
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: The minute you get hit, let's play.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not that easy, though. I mean, a lot
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: of people say that, you know, first hit, then it
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: kind of just calms down. I mean, but you have this,
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: the first game hype. I mean, you're just so wound up.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: And then a lot of times you hit like this
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: state of exhaustion. because of all the emotion and how
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: much you're fired up, amped up, whatever you want to
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: call it. And so it takes sometimes a little bit
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: of time to recover from that to kind of get
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: back into a little normalcy. But usually that's why you
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: always see coaches, and they love to do this, is
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: they love to call like naked bootlegs on the first
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: play because the first play the defense is so amped up,
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: the first step you go in one direction.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: There goes the defense, right?
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: And so that little misdirection is always a popular call,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: especially on that first play against defenses.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: The first 15-play script often reflects that. That's well stated
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: now for the listeners here, what you just said to them.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Well done.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: The coach also talked a little bit about anxiety, right?
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's going to be some for these guys.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Having not played in a game in August, which a
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: lot of these guys have done before, do you suppose
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: there's a little bit more? A little more emotion.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: A little more anxiety.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: When you say have done, so as far as having
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: never played a game in preparation for the regular season.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, most of these guys have played a
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: little bit in August in a game situation, not just
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: the joint practices. I know this is the first time
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: in Jaguars history that no starters played during the preseason.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's a little bit of, you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: because a lot of times you have a tendency to
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: trust what you can see. And so when you haven't
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: seen your team play in a preseason game, there is
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: a little bit of that nervousness or anxiety. But, you know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: we watched this football team in the joint practices, and
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: so we don't quite have that anxiety level. And I
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: think that– but still, games are different.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Game day, the roar of the crowd, the home field,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, the smell of popcorn, all that comes
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: into it a little bit, the national anthem. I'm with
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Jeff in that in the joint practices, we got numerous
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: reps against an opponent, more so than we would have
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: gotten in any preseason application you can think of. So
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I feel that part of it's done, but there's still
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the excitement of the opening game and being at home
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: and all the things I just mentioned.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I think the team will be.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: better conditioned after this past preseason schedule? Because, you know,
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: for example, let's say you go back to the old
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: days of three preseason games. The first game you play
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: eight snaps. The next game you play maybe 15 to 20.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: And then the last one, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: play maybe 20 snaps. Let's just say that. So effectively
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: you got on the high side 40 snaps in the preseason. Well–
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: Josh Heinz-Allen in the first joint practice with the Saints
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: had 47 snaps. And then you go to the second
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: joint with the Carolina Panthers, I think there was 65
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: team snaps, but then you had individual period. And Josh,
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: I think, had 40 snaps in that one. And then
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: he had like 10 one-on-one pass rushes. So that's, let's say,
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: 50 snaps there. About the same thing against Tampa. So
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: he had way more reps. And so I think the
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: conditioning level For the team, we'll be.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Better, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: Mentally and physically.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so they've gone against, like Jeff just said,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: those numerous snaps against quality opponents. I don't think there's
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: any comparison for what they're ready for in terms of
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the preseason and joint practices.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: You guys touched on Cole Van Lannen earlier. Let's hear
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: from the head coach on the Jaguars' starting right tackle
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: as he approaches a return, whether it's this week or
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: in week two or three.
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  Speaker 8: It'll be a game-time decision, I would imagine, working him
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: out before the game and seeing what that's going to
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: look like, just using every op we can to get
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: him to potentially be ready to go. So we'll kind
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: of take it all the way up until game time
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: with that one. Yeah, you want to get him in.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: You want to be able to get him some work,
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: get him some reps, get him feeling confident in a
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: game-like setting. missing the joints and all those kind of
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: ops that our other guys obviously had throughout the training camp.
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: But I've really liked his mindset. I've liked the way
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: he's attacked, putting himself in maybe precarious positions and owning it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Those are our players to watch, brought to you by Mr.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Chubby's Wings. We have less than three minutes left here
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: in the first hour, Jaguars happy hour. Thought on special teams? Nervous.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I'm nervous.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: And you– You always have a good sense of where
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: special teams are. Why are you nervous?
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: I'm nervous about our kickoff coverage and a little bit
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: nervous about.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Our punt team.
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  Speaker 5: We were kicking the ball out of the back of
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: the end zone in the last couple games that we
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: had because our kickoff coverage was not doing a particularly
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: good job. And so I'm a little nervous about kickoff
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: coverage and a little bit the same on punt coverage.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: But did he have his guys for that?
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I think, first of all, the– special teams coaches
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: we have i think are excellent yeah but uh you
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: got to remember too part of that nervousness is is
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: what i see with my eyes and in the preseason
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: games we had basically all the special teamers playing all
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: the reps on offense and defense and we're having to
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: do double duty so i'm i'm hoping that's just that's
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: it you know false nervousness because these guys were pulling
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: double duty in the preseason and now that the regular
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: season rolls around the they'll have a defined role on
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: special teams and not so much offense, defense.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well stated there. I'm less nervous about that. I
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: saw in both of those, the two joints we had
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: here at Carolina and Tampa Bay, I saw tremendous live
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: coverage drills, punt coverage, but return work that Heath and
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Luke put together against the opponents right now that were
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the best evaluation you could have. So I feel better
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: about that because I saw it within that joint practice.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'm with you in terms of the preseason game, and
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I think they'll be ready.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: For folks who think that Rayon Lane and Caleb Ransaw
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: are just backup safeties, there's so much more than that
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: for Heath and for Luke.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Well, 25 is the best special teams player on the field,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: I can tell you that. Rayon Lane, he is fantastic.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you this.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I've come to love this guy's evaluation skills. I mean,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: he He gets it in terms of that stuff.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: All right. Well, that'll do it for hour number one. Duff,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: it's always great to see you.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Pleasure to be here.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: We'll see you for Jags AM next.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: I'll be here.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, we'll see you at postgame show
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: on Sunday afternoon.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Looking forward to that, too.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And then we'll see you next Thursday, the whole
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: day with Duff. A day with Duff. That sounds like
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: a segment that we've got to do. The head coach
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: is headed in here for Jags HQ. And we'll also
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: hear from Tony Buscelli and James Gladstone. So go nowhere,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: because we're going nowhere. We're going to be right here
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: for the next hour, getting you ready for the Jags
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: and Browns, which kicks off precisely at 1.03 p.m. Eastern
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: time here at Everbank Stadium on Sunday afternoon. We're back
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: with a start of Jags HQ in seconds.