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The Next Round: Alabama Is Back? Kalen DeBoer, Keelon Russell & Georgia Showdown | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Here we go, live show now, the next round on
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  Speaker 1: Right off the bat, Hard Rock Bet, early line when
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  Speaker 1: it first opened, Georgia minus one and a half. Just
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  Speaker 1: checked before the show, Alabama minus one and a half.
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  Speaker 1: What has happened, Lance? How does it flip that quick? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think there was some public money. I think there
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  Speaker 1: was some sharp money immediately on Alabama. You know, there
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  Speaker 1: were people that said it was going to be Georgia three.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it would be right at a pick. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of hovered around that. But I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot of excitement after that performance.
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  Speaker 1: especially offensively, the way Alabama has looked through the first
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  Speaker 1: five weeks of football. I've got a theory. I'll wait
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  Speaker 1: where we each pick a game. I'll wait until somebody
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  Speaker 1: picks the Alabama-Mississippi State game, which I'm sure will be quick,
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  Speaker 1: to give you my theory on why the public is
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  Speaker 1: on Alabama here. But you say it's not just the public.
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  Speaker 1: It is smart money, too. Yeah, I think there's some
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  Speaker 1: smart money to move it that much. That's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: big move. Where did you say it officially opened? It
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  Speaker 1: officially opened at Georgia 1.5. And it's flipped all the
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  Speaker 1: way around. Alabama 1.5. As the show starts, it may
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  Speaker 1: go back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: We've had SEC games that set up SEC games. We've
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  Speaker 2: seen it the entire season, from Ole Miss beating LSU
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  Speaker 2: to Ole Miss going in and getting dominated by Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Florida looking so good against Ole Miss, getting run off
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  Speaker 2: the field in Missouri. This one, and I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: it's going to play out like this, but the way
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  Speaker 2: it is set up, Georgia looked like they were going
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  Speaker 2: through the motions. They looked completely flat against Vanderbilt. Alabama
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  Speaker 2: looked like world beaters. Now Alabama versus Georgia. Georgia's got
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  Speaker 2: an Alabama problem historically.
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  Speaker 1: What a fun week. I would say this, though. Georgia
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  Speaker 1: has played nobody in their 5-0 they were supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: Alabama has had a little more of a challenging schedule. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we expected Alabama to be unbeaten. We learned a lot
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  Speaker 1: about Georgia and Alabama this week, don't we? Yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: was the week that Alabama fans kind of circled the
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  Speaker 1: gauntlet of four games that we talked about in the offseason.
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  Speaker 1: You go 2-2 in these four games, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: make the college football playoff. what Alabama didn't realize was
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  Speaker 1: how improved Mississippi State was going to be. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: that offense right now, Mississippi State wasn't getting off the field.
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  Speaker 1: But you wonder, with a healthy Kamario Taylor, how different
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  Speaker 1: the offense looks for Mississippi State. Well, let's jump into that.
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  Speaker 1: take Alabama, who, my God, had to bus 85 miles
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  Speaker 1: to start voting. What a non-story. What a non-story that was.
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  Speaker 3: They were just, you could tell from the jump, they
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  Speaker 3: were off.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, they were playing it up on
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  Speaker 1: SEC Nation, and they had a live camera on the
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi State bus. Mossy Oak is a big sponsor for
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi State. I think they are for Ole Miss, too,
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  Speaker 1: but they are for Mississippi State. So all the Mississippi
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  Speaker 1: State guys are getting on their bus today. with the
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  Speaker 1: Mossy Oak camo pants on. They all had different shirts on,
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  Speaker 1: but camo pants on as they're loading up and they're
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  Speaker 1: making a big deal. Now they're about to take a
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  Speaker 1: five-minute bus ride to the stadium. Meanwhile, 85 miles, an
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  Speaker 1: hour and 10 minutes from Tuscaloosa. Alabama started fast. The
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  Speaker 1: defense set the tone early on. 14-0 out of the gate.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the health of Kamario Taylor first. He
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  Speaker 1: ends up leaving the game. never looked himself. Part of
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  Speaker 1: that was Alabama's defensive pressure, but part of it was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a nagging injury. Something's going on
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  Speaker 1: with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I heard from a
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  Speaker 2: really good source, and again, I talked to you guys
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  Speaker 2: about this, that he's had a broken foot for a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Now, I didn't find that out until
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  Speaker 2: the second quarter, but you could tell the guy wasn't
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  Speaker 2: going to move. And watching that game, you're like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: he had a couple of windows. Why is he not
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  Speaker 2: taking off here? So, and apparently it's the right foot
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  Speaker 2: you saw the walking boot and for a righty you
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  Speaker 2: know to throw you've got a plant you got to
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  Speaker 2: push off on that right foot so he was affected
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  Speaker 2: by that there's no doubt i think it is comical
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  Speaker 2: that mississippi state fans were bitching about the first turnover
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  Speaker 2: like that that was you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what were they saying that like oh no it's
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  Speaker 1: a football if you don't.
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  Speaker 2: Call that a football yeah but but they were literally
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  Speaker 2: saying that um But from that to the pick six,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, 14-0 before you could even blink. But this
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  Speaker 2: Alabama offense, what I would be excited about is their
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  Speaker 2: ability to run the football. Like, we question each and
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  Speaker 2: every week, are they really going to be able to
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  Speaker 2: do it again this week? But they were running at will,
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  Speaker 2: getting five yards a pop. And I would have continued
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  Speaker 2: to run the football.
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  Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus has them at about a 52-48 split
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  Speaker 1: right now, which is a sweet spot. 52 passing, 48 rushing. Brandy,
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  Speaker 1: that seems to be... I don't know what it was
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  Speaker 1: last year. It felt like it was 99% to 1%
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  Speaker 1: of pass to run last year. That's a pretty good 52-48.
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  Speaker 1: It's a comfortable place to be. No, I would agree.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of when you won't balance an offense, that's
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  Speaker 1: about as balanced as you're going to get. The only
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  Speaker 1: thing I would say about Kamario Taylor's health, and it's unfortunate,
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  Speaker 1: he's been in a boot. It was not on the
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  Speaker 1: injury report, so either Mississippi State's playing games on the
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  Speaker 1: injury report or this was a surprise to them as well.
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  Speaker 1: I think I know which one is the case there.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're probably playing games on the injury report.
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  Speaker 3: And I can't believe they're going to do it again
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  Speaker 3: this week.
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  Speaker 1: They've got to buy, though, don't they?
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  Speaker 2: I guess for LSU in two weeks because he said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be day-to-day and we'll announce it
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  Speaker 2: on the Wednesday before LSU.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is what I'll say. If Kamario Taylor
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  Speaker 1: had been healthy, it's a closer loss for Mississippi State.
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  Speaker 1: He ain't winning that game.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get real about this. Yeah, well, I mean, again,
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  Speaker 2: they scored 56. Now, does he throw the pick six?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that just looked like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was a bad decision. That seemed to be he
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  Speaker 1: got lured into that by the Alabama defense. And the
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  Speaker 1: problem is, here's why Mississippi State's not winning that game
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  Speaker 1: with Fluff Bothwell or Kamario Taylor playing full speed. Their
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  Speaker 1: front could not handle Alabama. Alabama won both lines of
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  Speaker 1: scrimmage in that game decidedly. And you're not, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care how good your star players are, if you're playing
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  Speaker 1: in the SEC losing both sides of the line of scrimmage,
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  Speaker 1: you're not beating anybody. And that happened in that game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, credit to Alabama. They dominated state up front defensively.
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  Speaker 1: They dominated state up front offensively. You win both lines
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage, you better have Tom Brady back there. Kane
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  Speaker 1: Womack suckered Camario into that throw. that Dijon picked off
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  Speaker 1: and took to the house because the route tree that
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  Speaker 1: they were running, the defense they showed Camario, Dijon was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to go with the other guy that was cutting
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  Speaker 1: into the middle. I think a safety picked him up,
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  Speaker 1: and then Dijon was able to fill that back gap,
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  Speaker 1: and he was not expecting him to be there. Just
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  Speaker 1: a great defensive play.
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  Speaker 2: I do think early barometer October game, where Mississippi State's
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  Speaker 2: obviously not as good as we thought they might be,
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  Speaker 2: and Alabama better than a lot of people thought that
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  Speaker 2: they were, back to the 52-48 split. You know, when
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  Speaker 2: I was campaigning hard for Kayla DeBoer, and I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if Alabama fans have come over now, if they're all
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  Speaker 2: on board with Kayla DeBoer.
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  Speaker 1: That's my observation in a moment, so go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Went back, you know, the 2023 Washington team that played
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  Speaker 2: for the national championship, that was about their split.
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  Speaker 1: Was it 52-48? I was going to ask you that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was 52-48.
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  Speaker 3: It was right around that number.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's what everyone's talking now. They're like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: these big third-down pickups. you know, I kept hearing that
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  Speaker 1: all day long as other analysts would jump in on
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  Speaker 1: Alabama at halftime, you know, Rogers and Booger and all
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  Speaker 1: those guys as the day went on, Joey Galloway and
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  Speaker 1: those guys on ESPN, it was, you know, Kalen DeBoer
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  Speaker 1: and Ryan Grubb did this with, with Pennix at Washington.
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  Speaker 1: You'd think you'd have them off the field. It'd be
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  Speaker 1: third and 10, third and 12, third and 19. And
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  Speaker 1: then they would hit a play on a seam router,
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  Speaker 1: a big throw downfield outside the numbers. And they would
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  Speaker 1: just keep tribes alive. And, That's what they're doing with
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  Speaker 1: this team. And I was going to ask you if
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  Speaker 1: that was the split.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, that was a really, really efficient three
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  Speaker 2: receivers playing in the NFL. Obviously, Penix, a guy that
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  Speaker 2: will start tonight for the Atlanta Falcons on the road
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  Speaker 2: against the Saints. But that offense was not as explosive
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  Speaker 2: as this Alabama offense. This offense seems to be kind of,
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  Speaker 2: with the growth of Keelan, getting better and better each
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  Speaker 2: and every week. And what a time to peak.
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  Speaker 3: With Georgia maybe the best team in college football coming
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  Speaker 3: in this week.
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  Speaker 1: And I think now, depending on Kamario Taylor's foot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's listen to Kalen first about Kamario, and then I
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  Speaker 1: want you to make your point here. Here's Kalen about
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  Speaker 1: defending Kamario Taylor this past weekend. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 1: built up around the country as one of the, if
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  Speaker 1: not the biggest game in the country because of these
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  Speaker 1: two quarterback matchups. And here's the Alabama coach on what
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  Speaker 1: his defense was able to do with Kamario.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know that if you can just keep coming after them,
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  Speaker 4: we felt like we can get there. We believe in
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  Speaker 4: our guys up front and what they're capable of. I
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  Speaker 4: think that's where it starts. If you can keep Camario
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  Speaker 4: from being able to throw early and quick and make
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  Speaker 4: him hold on to it for just a little bit longer,
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  Speaker 4: just keep hustling, keep straining, and you'll find a way
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  Speaker 4: to get home. I think guys are all playing together.
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  Speaker 4: We're not leaving these glaring Windows and and lanes for
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  Speaker 4: for you know quarterbacks to scramble really over the last
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  Speaker 4: few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Xavier Griffin, Brownie, the freshman, one and a half of
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  Speaker 1: the five sacks that Alabama had. Now, here's what I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say about this win for Alabama, because
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  Speaker 1: I think depending on Taylor's foot now, that's the biggest
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  Speaker 1: contributing factor here. And apparently they don't feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: like he needs to sit for several games. They're trying
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  Speaker 1: to let him play through it, I guess. And they
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  Speaker 1: got the bye this week. I think that's an eight-win
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi State team. That's probably right. This is not same
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  Speaker 1: old state. This is not, oh, they started 3-0, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to finish 3-8. Definitely year three under Levy, they're improved.
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  Speaker 1: I think they get to eight wins. So I think
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  Speaker 1: when you look back on this, Alabama on the road,
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  Speaker 1: I think Alabama probably beat an eight-win SEC team on
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  Speaker 1: the road. To your point, they were 4-0 this time
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  Speaker 1: last year.
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  Speaker 6: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Then they lost seven of their last eight. Couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: it to the house. Couldn't get it to the house.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that team, with a healthy Kamario Taylor, again,
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  Speaker 1: I can't overemphasize that, that's probably an eight-win team. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's an eight-win state team. So this is a
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  Speaker 1: good road win for Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: It was a 33-point road win.
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  Speaker 1: A historic road win. I mean, our two best build
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  Speaker 1: games going into the weekend ended up being a 33-point team,
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  Speaker 1: and Alabama winning on the road by 33, and then
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  Speaker 1: Missouri by 28 at home over Florida. But here's why
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  Speaker 1: I think the public has come around on this. I'm
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  Speaker 1: curious if you guys saw this. Yes. Okay. And there
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  Speaker 1: has been no bigger supporter of Kalen DeBoer than this
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  Speaker 1: man to my left. Like, you have told Alabama fans,
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  Speaker 1: even in the darkest of days, like, this guy can coach.
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  Speaker 1: Give him time.
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  Speaker 2: And he's gotten better and better. Like, it's not like
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  Speaker 2: year one was a disaster. They were 9-3 in the
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  Speaker 2: last team out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I know it was state. Again, I think it's an
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  Speaker 1: eight-win state team. Seven or eight. But I think eight.
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  Speaker 1: I know it was state, so you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: overreact to things like this. But I've had more than
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  Speaker 1: one Alabama fan say this to me. And if I'm
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  Speaker 1: being honest with you, I kind of thought the same
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  Speaker 1: thing myself as I was watching the first quarter play out.
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  Speaker 1: Kalen DeBoer, and he knew he was getting into this
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  Speaker 1: when he took the Alabama job, has spent a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time being compared to Nick Saban. And frankly, most
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  Speaker 1: of it is not flattering because the comparisons are Saban
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  Speaker 1: did it this way and did it better than Kalen DeBoer.
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  Speaker 1: I think for one of the first times, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Alabama fans sat down and watched and was like,
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  Speaker 1: I felt a lot like a Nick Saban team at
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  Speaker 1: the start of that game. You go out on the road,
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  Speaker 1: biggest game they've had in Starkville in a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: Right away, you get a turnover, and then you turn
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  Speaker 1: around and you impose your will right now for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're good. Let's ring some more bells. You
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  Speaker 1: come back out. What do you do? You create a
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  Speaker 1: pick six. It's 14 to nothing, and their head's spinning.
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  Speaker 1: That is what Nick Saban did time and time and
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  Speaker 1: time again to SEC teams on the road. And I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of Alabama fans and probably the nation
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  Speaker 1: looked at this and was like, all right, that looked
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  Speaker 1: a lot like old Alabama right there. Now, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying the whole game. I took the total opposite approach
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  Speaker 1: on SiriusXM this morning when they asked, what's the difference
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  Speaker 1: in this Kalen DeBoer? And I said, for his first
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  Speaker 1: time in Tuscaloosa, he looks in the locker room and
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  Speaker 1: there's nobody in their mind in that locker room that's
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  Speaker 1: making plays now that's left that says, Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when Nick Saban was here, we got coached this way,
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  Speaker 1: and now we're doing this. We used to do it
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  Speaker 1: this way, and now we're doing it this way. This
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  Speaker 1: is all his team. And he seems more comfortable. I
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  Speaker 1: agree 100% with that. Not that Saban's shadow won't be
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  Speaker 1: over the program forever and ever. But now I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this is, it's Kalen DeBoer, and the fans will
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  Speaker 1: be the last to come around to this. But they're
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  Speaker 1: going to do it differently. And yes, yes, they did
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  Speaker 1: have more edge. But differently doesn't mean bad. Differently can
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  Speaker 1: still be good. And that's my point is Kalen DeBoer
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  Speaker 1: is doing it his way now. And I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Alabama fans looked and said, OK, his way
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  Speaker 1: feels familiar. I kind of like that.
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  Speaker 2: We heard in the offseason, to your point, that he
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  Speaker 2: finally had all of his guys in there. And maybe
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  Speaker 2: this year was going to be a little premature next
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  Speaker 2: year based on where these guys are experience-wise was going
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  Speaker 2: to be the big year, but maybe a little bit
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  Speaker 2: ahead of that. But year three is kind of the
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  Speaker 2: year that a lot of these coaches make that mark.
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  Speaker 1: This is his hand-picked quarterback. I mean, this is the
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  Speaker 1: one that he and Courtney Morgan went and took away, remember,
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  Speaker 1: from SMU. Keelan Russell was an SMU commitment, and Alabama
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  Speaker 1: flipped him to Alabama. And everybody laughed. You know, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Alabama's flipping SMU recruits now.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Bama's burning. Our buddy Matt Moscona did a whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Bama's burning.
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  Speaker 2: That Keelan kid. And it's interesting because I had a mix.
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  Speaker 2: I had an Auburn, Alabama, and Georgia fan. But the
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  Speaker 2: Auburn fan was like, I don't know if Keelan's better
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  Speaker 2: than Ty. And I'm like, I'm just playing pure upside.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Ty.
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  Speaker 1: This was Saturday?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this was Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: But I will say that, like, Ty's offensive line wasn't
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  Speaker 2: as good. They didn't run the football as well. So
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I got his point. But, like, you can't deny how
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: good this Keelan kid is.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: When we do these interviews, I'm on Zoom with Danny
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Connell and them. And so I'm waiting in the commercial break.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: And Roy Philpop is the other host. And he was like, Jim,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: how you doing? You know, thanks for doing this. No problem.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Danny's like. man, that Keelan. And I was like, on
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: our show last week, Lance asked, he actually told somebody,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I would take Keelan right now and you can have
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Ty in our number one pick and I'll take Keelan.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And Danny was like, Oh, absolutely. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And I was like, well, Danny,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: it's easy to say that now after this Saturday. Lance
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: was saying it last week. But that kid.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if you guys have seen Heisman odds.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. He's leading in some places. Camario and Jane
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Barr are off the board now. Yeah, I understand why.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: And Keelan is like number two in some places. I mean,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I saw him at three, yeah.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, number two or three in most spots.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: But Jeremiah Smith, the way he played him. Malachi Toney
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: kind of disappeared Saturday night. Not that it mattered for him.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: might be against clinton no but uh i mean it
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: is going to be tough just because we established jeremiah
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: smith is the best player going in right and if
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: he continues to get 15 targets a game it's going
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: to be difficult with the numbers he's going to put
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: up back to you what you said last week davante
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: smith like numbers this.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Will not be his last chance davante now this will
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: not be his last chance to win no so uh
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: and i don't think he's going anywhere i mean he's
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: doing stuff and start five that you're like Well, that's.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: What's going to happen next.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: That's advanced algebra.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I think Alabama got on the national radar this week,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and obviously they were a top-ten team before that, but
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: this was a statement win. But then you're going to
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: have other fan bases saying, get this guy out, get
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: him to the NFL, this might be the number one
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: overall pick, and then they're going to realize he can't
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: come out.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: That's right. He's got another year of college football, my friends.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: But I love chatroom stuff. In Monday Morning Live with
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Luganville this morning, there was a Texas fan in the
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: chat that was like, He'll look good in burnt orange
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: next year. We're going to go. We got more money.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: We'll overpay to get him.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I think you can make that argument with Camario. Maybe
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State can't hang in there.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Even if Alabama's down on the pecking order, they ain't
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: losing that kid for money.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: No chance.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: And by the way, quarterback development. I mean, show me
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: all the Sark quarterbacks in the NFL and show me
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the what Alabama's able to do, and what Kalen DeBoer.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Kalen DeBoer. I mean, go back. I mean, how many
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks does he have in the league right now?
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Hayner's in the league. Obviously, Pennix is starting tonight.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Ty Simpson is backing up Matthew Stafford right now.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: I did.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Milrow's there. The only thing in Alabama's offense that was
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: remotely concerning is all of a sudden you see Ryan
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Coleman-Williams playing in a knee brace. Just a receiver. I
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: don't care if he doesn't lose a step. A receiver
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: playing in a visible knee brace makes him look slower.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Works for an offensive lineman. Yeah, but a receiver, it
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: makes him look slower. I don't know that Ryan Coleman-Williams
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. He made a really nice catch along
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the sidelines in a big moment. I don't know if
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: he's lost a step.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I almost think it's going back, what was it, two
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: years ago where we initially saw Ryan Coleman-Williams. We were like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: he's going to be the go-to, and Jeremy Bernard ended
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: up being that guy. Lottie Brooks might end up being
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the go-to guy. Yeah, I've liked Lottie Brooks from day one.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I really, really like him.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: No, they've got a really good balance with Rico Scott
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: getting big grabs, and obviously Ryan Coleman-Williams.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Tight ends.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Again, go back and look at the 2023 Washington offense.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: This looks just like it, you think?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: It does, outside of the fact Pennix couldn't run, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: obviously Keelan's. I mean, that one run that he made,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: he's got just a different gear. He's got the quick move,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: and Greg McIlroy in the broadcast, who does a tremendous job,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: There was a point, I don't know if they're still there,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: but there was a point in time that Alabama fans
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: didn't like Greg on the broadcast. Well, in that situation,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: he can't be Alabama enough for a lot of Alabama fans.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But I think he does a tremendous job. And he
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: points out that they had him on the run he had.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: When was the other run? Was it Florida State that
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: he ran for a touchdown in? that they clocked him
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: on the little charts, the devices they wear, 21 miles
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: per hour. The catapult. Yeah, because people just immediately say, well,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: he's not as fast as Jalen Milrow. And I'm like,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he not?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: It's a different look.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I've heard people say that, like he runs great. He's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: not as fast as Milrow.
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: And I'm like.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: He looks fast enough. I mean, I don't know that
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you've got to be any faster than he is.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: That speed looks different when you've got a 240-pound specimen running.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, DK Metcalf looks different when he's running down
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: You make a business decision to get in front of
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Jalen Milrow back in the day.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I would say that Deshaun Jackson in his
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: day was faster than DK Metcalf, but both of them running,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: one jumps out, one doesn't because one's massive.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But you know what Keelan Russell is doing so much
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: better now is getting down when he runs. He's not
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: taking contact. You saw him slide a couple times. sometimes
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have to like the run into the end
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: zone he went untouched basically for 20 I think it
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: was 23 yards or whatever that rushing touchdown was but
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he's getting down some too he's not that was one
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: of the things that people worried about him is boy
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: he takes a lot of contact.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: There are two things that that I would be somewhat
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: concerned like you can't carry over to Georgia like the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: secondary still is giving up some big plays.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Like, and that's head scratching.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: It is, it is the, it is the, I can't
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: say it's the weakest unit on the team so far,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: but it's the one that's not living up or exceeding expectations.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: So yes, I mean, the, the worry was that offensive
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: line and these running backs and, That's check, check right now.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I think the back end of the defense is kind
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: of questionable. And then 10 penalties and two turnovers. Like,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you can't do that against Georgia. Well, so the two
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: most concerning plays in that game, secondary-wise, one of them
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the game's already out of hand, but you let kind
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of a free runner go in the back back there.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, Anthony Evans.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Just miscommunication, yeah. Nobody will remember what he did on
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Saturday because they got worked.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: He was really, really good.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: But the biggest, the most concerning one is down on
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the goal line when Dijon Lee is just asleep. I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: don't know what, now the floor to ceiling for Dijon
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Lee is something else. His floor ain't great, but his
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: ceiling is. That entire game? You've got to be this
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: high to ride the Dijon Lee ride today. It was crazy.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: He's going to give you a pick six. He's almost
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: going to break a kickoff for a return for a touchdown.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Drop a punt. And he's going to drop a punt,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and he's going to be sailing asleep to let a receiver.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: The pursuit angle, and not that you had a lot
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: of pursuit because you're down there on the two or
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: three yard line, but He was completely lost on that play.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what he's doing, but boy, his ceiling, man.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: When he hits that ceiling, you're like, okay, I see
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: why Dijon Lee's out there all the time. Fun ride.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Alabama wins. When we come back, we'll do our game.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: LT will have our first pick. We'll just bounce around
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the country. We probably won't get to it, so I'll
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: ask right now. Back on Friday night, Pitt, Virginia Tech,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Phil Gold good? Not good in your opinion? I don't know.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I've seen so many different angles. But I know who's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: got the best angle is the referee that's literally looking
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: right up that upright, right? Have you ever stood under
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to look up and watch a kid go through? I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: think it's difficult. It is, I'm sure, difficult. But when
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: he initially hit it, I thought it was good. But
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: then I saw it drift. And then a couple of
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the replays, I saw it wasn't good. And I went
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to dinner with our resident Virginia Tech fan last night.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: He was actually at the game. Yeah, he texted me.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: He texted me immediately. And he said, was that good
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: or not? And I was like, Depends on the angle
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you watch. I don't know. I mean, I initially thought
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: it was good.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: But he said it last night. Like, going back, he
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: didn't think it was good.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: We were always taught, though, that if it goes over.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: It's no good if it goes over. I don't think
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it went over. But I was always taught by officials
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: in the know that if it goes over coming from
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: good out and it goes over, it's good. If it
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: goes over coming out over, it is no good. Now,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: this one was going out. But I don't think it
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: went over it. I think it went over it. Yeah,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was no good.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I think it was a foot to the left. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: what a hell, what a game.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And I didn't know where Holden Gerner was.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Did you guys? No, I did not until Heinschel went
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: out of the game. Just another Auburn player that's now
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: starting at a different location.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: And poor Heinschel. He's done for the season now.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Done for the season as Pitt is. I mean, the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: ACC's second place is wide open. Wide open. Wide open
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: for second. I wouldn't be surprised if NC State plays
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: that game. I know. Pitt made it back in. Yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: But now they don't have their starting quarterback, so I
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: don't know their upper movement. They were griping last week.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: That was the team everybody thought should have been in,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and Missouri should have been out.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: By the way, Missouri. Oh, 14.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: What are these voters thinking?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: 14. SEC bias.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: All right. When we come back, we pick games, we
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: talk about them, we go all the way through the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: show here. Our first guest today is on our next
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: round platform coming up in the final two hours. 12.30 Eastern,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: 11.30 Central. Joel Klatt will be with us today. We'll
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: have to ask Joel. Some of you want us to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: ask just flat up your perception of Alabama in the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: offseason to your perception of Alabama going into Georgia. Has
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it changed? We'll ask Joel Klatt that in a couple
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of hours. This is the next round presented by Hard
• 23:40
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• 23:43
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• 23:46
  Speaker 1: We're about to bounce around the country, all the great football.
• 23:49
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  Speaker 1: and we may talk about the game in a second,
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  Speaker 1: a 35,000-seat stadium for $ 875 million. And the atmosphere on
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  Speaker 1: that place is.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, sign me up for Northwestern football looking like that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: from now on. It made the game more interesting being
• 24:14
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• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And then when they showed, you know, inside the facility,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I am just blown away where we are
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: in college football that Northwestern has put that much, that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: many resources towards football. And all I could think about
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: watching that crowd is like, I bet half these people
• 24:31
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  Speaker 2: they're opening, and they couldn't even sell it out that night.
• 24:35
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• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Until Ohio State comes in. It'll require Ohio State coming
• 24:40
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• 24:44
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• 24:47
  Speaker 1: which is standing room only at the end zone, and
• 24:50
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• 24:55
  Speaker 2: You know, another thing I thought about, Dave Braun will
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: get offers this year, and I don't think he'll leave.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say they've got a coach
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: to match the stadium. That guy can flat coach football.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: He can.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: They had Indiana against the wall last week, whipped Penn
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: State this week. He's a good football coach. Chip Kelly,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: wing T-like formations. They ran it for 413 yards. On
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Penn State.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, Penn State obviously got USC
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: this weekend, but I think Northwestern's better than USC.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: I really do.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I really do. Chip Kelly better coordinator than he is
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a head coach?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, probably. If he had never left Oregon, though.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think that program was going anywhere. He was
• 25:37
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• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was a little bit. You think
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: he's a poor head coach because you factor in Philadelphia
• 25:42
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• 25:45
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• 25:48
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  Speaker 2: Real quick, Chip Kelly, his first head coaching job was
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  Speaker 2: all four seasons. Then he took over UCLA after going
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: There you go. Listen, I'm amazed nowadays the things I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: don't remember. I don't remember him at San Francisco ever.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And apparently, I think I have something I'm supposed to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: do later this afternoon, and I'm not going to be there.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: If I'm supposed to come for a meeting, an appointment, something,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be there because I don't remember
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: what it is. I can't remember. I would say out loud,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: if Jim's supposed to be at your event, let us
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: know in the chat room or on social media. But
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I know our audience, they'll have you at 70 different
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  Speaker 1: I think it was the year after Jim Harbaugh left
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and then went back to Michigan was the year that
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: he became the head coach. So it was between Harbaugh
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and Shanahan?
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Good gap filler there. He was wonderful the other night
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: because Penn State had no answers. They were surprised. All right, LT,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: pick a game, any game, even if we've talked about it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Let's look. I mean, they shouldn't have been ranked. What
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: are AP voters thinking?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: But Eli Drinkwitz finally gets a ranked win. Missouri, I mean,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: from Austin Simmons to Jamal Roberts, I mean, they all
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: look good.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Lance, they Florida'd. Florida, they did to them what Florida
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: did to Ole Miss. I mean, they're 560 total yards.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, that Missouri offense.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And then you're worried about Missouri's defense because they give
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: up right at 500 in Starkville last week to Mississippi State.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: They hold that vaunted Buster Faulkner offense to 17 points.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the thing, you know. it's been a
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: running joke on this show, the Buster Faulkner invented offense.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And I have marveled at how people, everybody that comes
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: on the show, oh, Buster Faulkner's offense. I'm like, there's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: never been an offensive system alive that somebody couldn't stop.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And Missouri was very quick to say, yeah, we got
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: that one. But the thing that had concerned John Summerall
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: all along, and it got lost because they wanted Auburn,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And because they beat Ole Miss after Ole Miss had
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: beaten LSU, it was that Florida defense. And it got
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: absolutely worked. They've got a leaky defense. I can't remember
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: exactly what he said, but Forrester had the Buster Faulkner
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: soundbite last week where basically he says, no, I don't
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: change anything game plan specific. I don't change anything week
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to week. It's our system. We run our plays. We
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: don't change anything. We do what we do, and that's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: what we do. And that was a big... That was
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: cocky when he said it, and that was a big
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: dose of reality when he got to Missouri.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And Summerall could tell this was coming I mean not
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: to a 28 point beat down but you know he
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: continued to say hey we have done nothing yet we
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: got to get our heads out of our asses or
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: we're going to get really humbled.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: And they got really humble.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But if you would have told me coming out of
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: that game that one team goes 220 on the ground
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: and one goes 42. I would have said Jaden Ball
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: had how many yards? Yeah, I would have said I
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: am completely wrong on this game. Missouri probably got blown out.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: 12 carries, 13 yards for Ball. Here's Eli Drinkwitz. I
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: have not heard this yet. I'm sure it's easy to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: listen to and you don't roll your eyes at all.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Anybody want to make a prediction on Eli who's... who
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: was the poster boy for how bad the AP poll
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: is and we shouldn't have polls at 25 last week.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Anybody want to take a guess on what Eli says? Brown,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you first. I'm going to guess he now says none
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: of that mattered and you really shouldn't listen to it anyway.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: And we don't listen to it in our locker room.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Y'all are going to crown us now and we're not
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: going to listen to that either. I think it's going
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to be that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Or he might own a little bit of it. Say, hey, look,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I knew how good these guys were. These guys know that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you know, they're a top 25 team, but we haven't
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: earned anything. I think he'll own it a little bit,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: but also spin it. Here's the match game with Eli Drinkwitz.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: After this game, I can't believe anything that y'all write
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: about us or anything on Twitter. And after last game,
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: I didn't believe anything that was said about me or
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: anything that was said about our team on Twitter because
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: none of that matters. What really matters is the truth
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: of what your coaches teach you and preach to you
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: and how much you believe in that. And that's what
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: makes a good football team. So I know y'all have
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: jobs to do, and that's awesome, and y'all got to
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: do them, and that's part of the world that we
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: live in. But for us, it's about ignoring the noise
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: and staying focused on our trajectory, which is hey, let's
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: just get a little bit better. Let's just keep getting
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: a little bit better. Let's focus on the things that
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: aren't where we want them to be and get a
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: little bit better. And last week, we didn't set edges,
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: we didn't tackle, and we didn't have situational execution on
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: third downs in the red zone.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Got them fixed.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's constantly figuring out where do you got
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: to plug holes. And, you know, that's our job. That's
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: what we're going to do. But, man, it's going to
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: be an awesome scene tonight downtown. Cannot wait to see
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: that dome lit up. I'm not going to be out,
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: but good God almighty, it's going to be a lot
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: of fun.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: So.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: I wish all y'all a great night. M-I-Z.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Z-O-U. That's Coach Eli Drinkwitz there.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: If they would have survived in Starkville, then I think
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you could bat around, is this team a dark horse
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to make the college football playoff? I think with one
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: loss with what they've got coming up, probably not, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I could see this being a 9-3 team at the
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: end of the year.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: How dangerous are they with Austin Simmons? Because he's in
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the shadows of Trinidad and Keelan and Camario, but Man,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: that guy, he's throwing touchdowns and no interceptions.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: And you've got weapons. I mean, Caden Lee is a weapon.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: And then what you saw from Jamal Roberts, I mean,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: imagine if they get Ahmad Hardy back. And he's even
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: close to what he was last year with 1,600 yards
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: on the ground. I mean, you've got A & M
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. I feel like Missouri's the better team, right?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I do too, but the way the SEC's going this year.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, I just think with games in Oxford–
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Hosting Texas and then the Athens, I just don't think
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: those are winnable games for Missouri. But I could see
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: them win one of those games.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: The way the SEC is going this year, A &
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: M wins that game. That's kind of what we've seen
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: in the SEC this year. When you just get ready
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think you want to play anybody in the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: SEC outside of maybe three teams.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Arkansas, South Carolina?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe Auburn.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'd say four. Vandy and Auburn. And Vandy was out
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: there starting quarterback this week.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Auburn's offense is broken.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: It is, yes. We may get to that now. Brown?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go Kentucky-South Carolina. We can save Auburn.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: We'll come back to it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Boy, Shane Beamer with the lead is not where you
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: want to be. 16-0 again. I don't know if this
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: is the one that gets him. Something's eventually going to
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: get him. He's survived the weekend, so he's probably okay.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: We taught America about soccer this week. this summer. Tyler,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: what's the most dangerous score in soccer? 2-0.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: 2-0.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Because at that point, the other team is desperate for
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a goal, and you stop being aggressive. You all of
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: a sudden are like, we're up 2-0 now. Yeah, and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: now they go. So is that 17? We're Shane Beamer.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: It's two scores.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, 16-point lead and a 17-point lead now both blown. And,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you know, their ability to run the football on Saturday
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I thought was great. I kind of, in the moment,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't think Will Stein was going to go for
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: the two.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: It's the way to play it. That's one reason I
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: wanted to bring this game up. I mean, go ahead.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I had South Carolina minus two and a half. Very
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: frustrating game there.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I would imagine. It felt like you had it won.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: It felt like you had it lost. It felt like
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you had it won. And then here comes Kentucky. I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: maintain if you take the ball second in overtime, you
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: should go for two every time. That's my theory, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Will Stein did it right away. He didn't even think
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: He did not.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: He had those two fingers up immediately. Because you have
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to go for two the next time is your point. Well,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: that's in the second overtime. That's right. In the second overtime,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: if you've got the ball last, you're an idiot not
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to go for two because you're about to have to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: start running two-point conversions. I still say it in the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: first overtime. And here's why. Well, I think you have
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to go for two the second one now.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: No.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: First overtime, you have your choice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: He's right. You've got to go for two. You're right.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: My apologies.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: So that's why you changed your philosophy a few years
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: ago when they put in this rule in the second
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: overtime you couldn't kick. Everybody's got to go for two.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: You're about to have to run your best two-point play.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: So if you've got what you think is your best
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: two-point play... Why would you not run it when you
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: can end the game with it? That's my point, and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that's what Stein did. To your point, Kentucky's about to
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: get the ball first, score a touchdown, and have to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: go for two.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: That was almost a drop in the back of the
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: end zone by that tight end.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: That was right on the baseline, too.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: That would have been awful.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: That would have been a horrible way to lose. I
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: thought he was going to bobble it and step out
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of bounds. I did, too. Somehow, Kentucky managed to get
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a guy wide open for two consecutive plays at the
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: end of that game, which is just remarkable in that situation.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: You find a guy wide open for the touchdown, Minchie does.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Then you find a guy wide open for the two-point conversion,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: even though he did almost bobble and drop it. Listen, man,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: this Will Stein guy, he's now got road wins at
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M and at South Carolina.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: And played Bama better than anybody.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And played Bama for a half better than anybody has
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: just about. And it just looks so different. It's fun
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: offense to watch, and they're winning games with it. I mean,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: it's almost like Mark Stoops has now forgotten as much
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: as he did there.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're not going to fire Beamer yet, I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: don't think they're going to fire him during the season.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: After the season, for sure. But, I mean, you know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: schools handle it different ways. Some will pull the trigger
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the season, and others will let
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: it ride it out. I mean, I guess they're going
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to let Beamers about to go into a.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Gauntlet, too. They got a lot of losses. I don't
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: know how he survives this. But you went– it's bye
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: week in South Carolina, right? Or do they have somebody
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: this week?
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: At Florida.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: And I think Florida's going to be.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: A little upset. Kind of a bad time to catch
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the Gators. So you got Florida. Then I think it's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a bye week for South Carolina. It is. That becomes
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: a very– Common place to let somebody go is a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: bye week. If you're going to make an in-season move,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you do it during a bye week. Gives the interim
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: coach players time to react and interim coach time to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: put some pieces together.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Super nice guy. Can be annoying at times on the mic, but.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: He's lost eight straight in the SEC.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: And he keeps pulling these big leads. Yeah, I know
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: it's a.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Tough gig, but if you're a South Carolina fan, you've
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: got to be mad right now.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of the leads he blew was Alabama
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: last year. Had Alabama down two scores in the fourth
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: quarter and couldn't close the deal. Had two scores again.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like this guy. Now, this was two
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: scores in the first half, Saturday against Kentucky. But still,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the worst one's halftime. He was up. What, 20-something at
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M? Oh, it was more than that.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: It was 30-something. I thought it was 28-nothing. No, no,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I think it was 34-3.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: 30-3. 30-3.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: He's up 27 points at A & M celebrating, going
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: into the locker room, you know, doing all that mess,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and they lose the game. I mean, this is– you
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: can't recover from this.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: What's crazy is, like, their ability to run– they averaged
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: over six yards a carry on Saturday. How do you
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: have a 17-point lead at home, you're running the football
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: at will, and you blow that lead?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: That's hard to do. It's almost impossible.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: It's almost like it's bad coaching. LaNorse isn't playing bad football.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I thought last year he was bad. The year before,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: he showed he could be really good, and I think
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: he's kind of in between.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: And the Saturday morning Thamel report was that they had
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: worked the backup more. He had gotten more first-team snaps
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: this week. Maybe that's what sparked LaNorse on a little bit.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Here is Shane Beamer after the game,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and I've done this my whole career, both at Auburn
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and Alabama. And at Kentucky. When I worked in Lexington,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it's so hard to cover a coach that you know
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: is on the hot seat and that he likely will
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: be fired, but he still has his job. And you
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: have to ask what every fan is thinking. And Shane
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Beamer got asked about his future after the loss.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: Steve Spurrier told the fans not to clap for the
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: team after they lost. You've kind of trumpeted the team's
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: competitiveness and their effort. Is there a point when competitiveness
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: just isn't good enough?
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: No, I mean, we've got to win football games, John.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not dumb.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know that.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, we're not here for moral victories, bud, and
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: you know that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of the way they competed.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: I'm proud of the way they responded. But ultimately, you're
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: judged on wins and losses, and we've got to win
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: football games. But I am proud as hell of the
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: young men in that locker room and how they stuck
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: together this week and how they battled tonight. Shane, do
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: you feel you have the support of the administration to
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: continue as football coach? I don't know anything other than
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: what they've told me, David, that they've been super supportive
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: and have been all along. I wish we could have
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: put a better result on the field tonight.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I know nobody's going to feel sorry for him because
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: he's probably making $ 7 million, I'm guessing, a year.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: $ 20 million to walk away, $ 20 million-ish to walk away.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: But how difficult is it for him to answer these questions?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: It's hard to ask. It's hard to sit in the
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: room with him. when it's happening on both sides. Yeah,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: and to your point, Jim, as the media, you're an
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: extension of the fan base. You've got to ask what
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the people want to hear and the people want to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: hear those answers.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and how do you answer it?
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't love the first answer.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: What?
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Bud was very condescending. You know, we're not here for
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: moral victories, Bud. By the way, beating Kentucky was not
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: going to be a moral victory. That was not a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: moral victory. By the way, you were favored. Yeah, you're
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: supposed to win that game. The second answer, though, I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: actually thought he answered it the best way he possibly could.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: He didn't blow up at a guy. He didn't, you know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: he's just like, they've been supportive of me. That's all
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I can say. You know, they continue to support me,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: but I know I got to win.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: You know, what do you think it's like to be
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: a wife in that situation where he comes home from
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: that game?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Like, do you just stay away?
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: Like, I.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I remember one time, this was during an SEC championship game.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I want to say 2017 Auburn, Georgia. I'm going to
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: head down to the field for the end of the game,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and Christy Malzahn is sitting in the tunnel. Like, she
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: can't even watch it. Her husband's coaching in the SEC
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: championship game, right? I think I was with you when
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: we were going down. Yeah, we were both like, wow,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: that was odd, wasn't it? I mean, she's sitting in
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the tunnel just like not even watching the game, Lance.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Or maybe that was a different Auburn game that I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: bumped into.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Or maybe it's like that Allstate commercial where she's better
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: luck when she's in the tunnel.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe so, I don't know.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe you've got to stay in the tunnel.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: They've locked her out of the booth. But, I mean,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: all I could think of is her husband's coaching the
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: SEC championship. He's not coaching for his job at that point.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: His popularity in 2017 was about as high as it
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: got as Auburn's head coach. I mean, to answer your question,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: that was a winning wife. And they lost the game,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I know. But a wife where it was going well,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine when it gets to this point.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And, you know, she's probably got that one friend at
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: the country club that's like, who gives a rat's ass?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: You're about to get $ 26 million. That changed the zero
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: on those checks. Have you started to look at new houses,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: get the hell out of Columbia? Have y'all thought about
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the beach, just living at your beach house? $ 26 million.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I think I would. I know these
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: guys are competitive.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: But so much shit they've got to go through.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: When Jeff Levy, his biggest question right now at 4-1 is,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: how are you.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Going to keep your quarterback for next year?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: It's a tough racket.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I know they make a lot of money. It's a
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: tough way to do it. Cash that check and go
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to the hunting club. Sit around and shoot some birds
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: or whatever. All right. When we come back, more college
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: ball games. Next pick is mine, I guess. We'll do that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I'll squeeze in a little Atlanta Braves conversation when we
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: come back as well. Big win for Atlanta. That's next.
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  Speaker 1: Sporting State. Ashley, one of our great viewers and listeners,
• 41:56
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• 42:00
  Speaker 1: one liked Kalen DeBoer, and a lot of Alabama fans
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: feel that way. There may be other fans out there,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: but I do have one friend that is that way.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: But most of the guys I watch ball with except
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: for one have always supported him and thought DeBoer was
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the best coach for Alabama. Check back on Monday. I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: want to see how people react if Alabama loses the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: game and how they feel about them then. But right now,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: everybody loving Kalen DeBoer as Alabama's coach.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're ever going to get to that 100%
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: approval rating again unless he wins a national championship, but.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Obviously very much on the table.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I was looking at projected bowl matchups and college football
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: playoff matchups, and I saw a national writer had Alabama
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: and Georgia playing for the national championship.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: That changed.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: So I guess that would be three times we could
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: possibly see him this year.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Saturday at Bryant-Denny, then the SEC championship in Atlanta, and
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: then the national championship or semifinals or quarterfinals. They could
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: pair up somewhere along the way. Real quickly, Braves, a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: little baseball. What the Braves did last night to the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Dodgers was simply amazing. Ray Kerr, I think I got
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: his name right, former 7-Eleven employee, had given up baseball.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: And then he had a friend that said, man, you
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: need to try out. And he went back to junior college.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: And then I think it was the Mariners picked him
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: up for a $ 2, 000 contract, gave him $ 2, 000 and invited
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: him to camp. He took it and went, and then
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: he's worked his way. This is the second time this postseason,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: a bullpen start, he's gone out there and given them
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: virtually three innings of great pitching. But this time he
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: did it against the Dodgers. Well, look, they stole game two,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and that is huge for the Braves. Because now you
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: did exactly what you had to do, and the way
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: they did it yesterday was amazing. Holding the Dodgers 0
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of 9 in scoring, runners in scoring position, two solo shots,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the only runs the Dodgers were able to manufacture. But
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: now you've got your ace, ball in hand, game three
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: at home. This is exactly perfect scenario for the Braves.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So basically, this is the Dennis Quaid movie, except old
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: boy is selling slushies instead of coaching baseball. I mean,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: it's the exact same story, really, right? Three innings in
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: both of his outings. In fact, he's coming off of
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Tommy John surgery that took him two years. They said
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: this in a broadcast last night. That took him two
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: years to recover. Not as fast as most people recover
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: from Tommy John. It took him... He missed almost all
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: of two seasons to recover, to get back to where
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: he is this year. And he's not young, but he's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: living a dream story. But not just him. Walt Weiss,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the way he managed that bullpen and used everybody to
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: get to the end last night.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: And everybody worked.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And everybody worked.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Back to Kerr real quick.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Six innings this postseason against the Phillies and the Dodgers.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: He's only given up three hits in zero runs.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. It's amazing. And now they're even in a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: best of five. So that's like being 2-2 with three
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: to play.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: And two are in Atlanta.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: And the next two are in Atlanta. And the two
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: good starters that Atlanta has haven't pitched yet. They're ready
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to go in games three and four. So this thing
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: could not go back. It may not go back to Atlanta.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: But it's still Yamamoto going in game three and then
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Glass now going in game four.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: So, you know, I mean, the Dodgers, obviously, it's silly numbers.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: You know, game in, game out.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Today, Forrester's White Sox up 1-0 at Cleveland, 4
• 45:34
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• 45:38
  Speaker 1: minus 158 to even that series up. And then the Yankees,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and by the way, did you see Tropicana Field? 40,000
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: sold out. I did see that, Jimmy. How many are
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Yankees fans? Biggest crowd I've ever seen in there. Yeah. Oh,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I know. That does not surprise me. But it also
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if it was 50-50 Yankees Yankees-Rays. Rays
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: win that first one. Almost a no-hitter. Eight innings of
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: no-hit ball. 7 o'clock TBS tonight. The Yankees minus 131
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to win that game tonight. They've got their stud pitcher
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  Speaker 1: want to bring in the Indiana Rutgers game. I know
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: it's not one that was competitive, 47-15 Indiana. But unlike Northwestern,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Indiana looked the part this time. They had, for the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: first time since 1995 in football, two 100-yard rushers, two
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: 100-yard receivers in that game. Now that's the way Indiana,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: defending national champions... are supposed to look against a bad
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  Speaker 1: team in Rutgers.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, him being black in the backfield last year, really good.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: But this was supposed to be why they would be
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit better as far as running the football,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: was Turbo Richard, over 200 yards. I mean, Josh Hoover,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: he's not turning the football over, so he's not Mendoza.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: We talked about this last week. But still super efficient, 20-27,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: 250 yards, four touchdowns.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: No picks.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Defensively, Indiana showed out. And say what you want about Rutgers,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: KJ Duff's a stud. They held him under 100 yards.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: They were nine first downs, two of 14 on third down. So,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the way Indiana's supposed to win these games.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: But it looked more like the Indiana product we saw
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Hoover 20 of 27, exactly what you
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: want for touchdowns. But my takeaway was Duff was, believe
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: it or not, step for step, statistically, with Jeremiah Smith.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: and he is not after Saturday. He had the Jaden
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Ball Saturday, you know? Not that Duff was ever going
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: to factor into the Heisman as ball my half, but
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: it was the one shiny thing about Rutgers football, who
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: now is 1-4, 0-2.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think Duff could be a first-round guy.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: On the other side, Charlie Becker 1,000% is a first-round guy.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick Marsh actually led them in receiving, though. He
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: had a.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: That's a great one to watch.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what everybody thought Marshall was going to
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: be when he came over from Michigan State. I bring
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: it up not to talk as much about the Rutgers
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: game as I do for where Indiana is because we're
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: about to get a little Indiana interesting. Indiana, according to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bet, minus seven at Nebraska. Look out. 11 a.m.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: big noon kickoff, so only a touchdown favorite, and then
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: they get Ohio State. It's going to be a tough game.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Next two weeks is fun.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: But Nebraska can't play like they played the first 30 minutes.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: They won't.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Or they will get run off the field.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I got a whiteboard right down here to my right.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Upset alerts on Tuesday.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: It is about to get real.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Think about at Nebraska, Ohio State, at Michigan, Minnesota, who
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: obviously is better than anyone thought this year. and then USC,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: and then at Washington. I mean, they've got multiple losses
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: probably coming up.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: That stretch right there, I'm not sure the easiest game's
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: not Michigan.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: It probably, well, Minnesota at home.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: You don't know what Michigan's going to look like when
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Tommy Carr is the starter. I mean, it's coming. You
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: think Bryce Underwood's days are numbered.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, just DNA-wise.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: The money that's invested, I don't know.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is very much like the NFL.
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: How long it takes the NFL to give up on
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: a starter that they've invested that kind of money in.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Because they've invested that much money, they're like, we've got
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: to be certain we're done with this guy.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Look, and obviously against good defenses, he has looked more
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: than pedestrian. But that was one of the best defenses
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: he's played. He has looked better this year for whatever
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: that's worth. It's just not a good football team. Give
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: me another game before we get to the top of
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the hour. Oh, let's take a look at Miami and Clemson.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Clemson competitive the first 30 minutes, and then it completely
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: falls apart. And it's almost like Cristobal was having fun
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: running it up a little bit on Dabo.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some history there. Remember Righteous Jim Stone-Lox on Thursday?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Or was that Friday? It was Thursday. Told you, first half,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: take nine and a half Clemson. That was the first
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: half line. That field goal got it to nine. So, hey.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Definitely threading the needle there.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: But.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know how good Miami is because you saw
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Mensah play on the road against a pretty good defense.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: And he looked good, but he didn't look great. And
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I still don't trust Miami's defense. Clemson's just not a
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: good football team at all.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I have not paid close attention to this rivalry, if
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: you call it rivalry. But apparently, in the past, Dabo
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: has punched a couple in late. to run the score
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: up a little bit. There was one game at Miami
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: where they won like 58 to nothing. Yeah. So there
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: was some talk that Miami had not forgotten those things.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Now that the, now that the, uh, the, the bear
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: has the gun and this thing is flipped.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: The, the, this is the get back here at Dabo
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: if you want it. Cause it seems like Clemson is very,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: very gettable.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And, 58-0 was the score when they punched him in late.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Under Dabo, 58-0, 38-3, 42-17, 40-10. And I think either
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the 40-10 or the 42-17, there was a touchdown that
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Clemson scored under a minute or something like that to
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: make that score. And a lot of people say Miami
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: did not forget those things.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Well, and no discipline. Ten penalties, a couple of turnovers.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Tate Reynolds looks like he'd be really good at Northwestern
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: or maybe at Wake Forest. But what happened to elite
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: quarterback play at Clemson?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they look really lost offensively. Here's Mario Cristobal hungry
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: after a win at Clemson. Awesome win for our program.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Getting on the road.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Actually, three straight conference road games for us. Started really,
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: really fast and put a lot of pressure on them.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: Defense really became physical, particularly in the second half. Only
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: allowed six points in the first half. We missed a tackle.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: A lot of big play in the second half that
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: led to their touchdown. But I felt we really put
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: a lot of pressure on their quarterback, knocked around the
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: running game. And this was good because four years ago
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: we came here with, when we had just gotten to
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: Miami with a very, you know, a roster that wasn't
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: what it was supposed to be.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: And we got our faces kicked in.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: So it was good to come out today and play
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: good football and give ourselves a chance to control our
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: own destiny.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Mario Cristobal. You know, one of the big
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: pickups in the portal for them had two and a
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: half sacks in this game. Damon Wilson off the edge
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: was at Missouri last year, a force in the SEC,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and now he's part of the portal class at Miami.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the first time you've really seen Miami
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: defense get after it this year. Six sacks on Clemson
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Saturday night. Their schedule looks more difficult than it did early. Now,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: the good news is they get everybody at home, but
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Florida State is better than we thought.
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Pitt is obviously better than.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: A lot of people thought. But those games are both
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: in Miami. Then they go to North Carolina, which they're
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit better. They got the Notre Dame game
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: on the road, and then they've got Duke and Virginia Tech.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: But both of those games are at home.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Emblematic of Clemson football right now, though, is right before
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: the half, you've actually got something working offensively. You get
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: down in the red zone. I think it was third
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: and one or second and one. And it's 17 to three.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: But you got a chance to make it 17, 10,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: go into the half. And you're like, we're right in
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: this ballgame.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that puts pressure on Miami at that point.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: And you jump. And now it's third and goal from
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the eight. Then you get sacked. Then you get sacked.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: And now you're like, oh, my God, are they even
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: going to get a field goal off, you know? And,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just emblematic of where Clemson is right now.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, is it fair for Chappell to ask today
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: or tomorrow, what is Dabo's weekly?
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's Tuesday.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Tuesday?
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Chappell, Dabo, can we talk about it now?
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with two losses now. I know based on math,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: you guys got seven more, I think it is.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I did not play the game, but I've looked at
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the schedule and you've got seven more games.
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I did appreciate the nighttime college football schedule. It allowed
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: me to put their Yankees Rays on main screen. It
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: was not great. I ended up having some baseball on, too.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the Yankees Rays. When I saw that crowd,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, main screen. Miami Clemson, slide these
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: over to the other. Then you go to the late,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: late slate, and it's beat down on beat down in
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the late, late slate. After the 2.30 window, it just sucked.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Clemson might not have another ranked team on the schedule, though.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're saying they're going to have a good record?
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you could end up going maybe 9-3
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: or even 10-2.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so fake. Yeah, ooh, 10-2, it seems crazy. All right,
• 54:58
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• 55:01
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• 55:04
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