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Credlin | 2 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: On Predline, the budget sales pitch goes from bad to worse.
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Speaker 2: Treasury admits a major error and key figures at underpin
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Speaker 2: Labour's tax package and don't worries it's a treasurer as
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Speaker 2: he looks to give himself sweeping new powers to make
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Speaker 2: changes without taking them back to the Parliament. The thirteen
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Speaker 2: year old boy charged with an alleged terror plot toack
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Speaker 2: to attack a Queensland school thirteen years old. The AFP
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Speaker 2: boss says young people are being radicalized online faster than ever.
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Speaker 2: Plus a man sentenced to life in prison in the
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Speaker 2: UK for the stabbing murder of a young white boy,
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Speaker 2: a UNI student, and as brought into stark focus what
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Speaker 2: some have claimed is a two tiered justice system, with
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Speaker 2: police arresting the dying victim. Will show you some of
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Speaker 2: the shocking footage in a moment as the grieving father
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Speaker 2: today breaks his silence, the confirmation Big Australia's back. Australia's
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Speaker 2: population hits twenty eight million today with a new arrival,
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Speaker 2: a new migrant not a baby every fifty nine seconds.
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Speaker 3: The one thing that the government has total control over
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Speaker 3: is the number of people who come into our country
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Speaker 3: every year. In the Labor has allowed millions of people
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Speaker 3: to come in on their watch in a way that
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Speaker 3: is completely unsustainable.
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Speaker 2: We will get back to that because it is unsustainable, absolutely,
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Speaker 2: and it's also driving the vote to one nation, you
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Speaker 2: know that. But first, it was always going to come
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Speaker 2: to this, the big Orcus dismount led by the left
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Speaker 2: wing of politics in this country. Now, for much of
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Speaker 2: his adult life, the Prime Minister has been a hard
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Speaker 2: left activist, and now that the ones Great Labor Party
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Speaker 2: right faction is all but dead, that the party itself
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Speaker 2: is a wholly owned subsidiary of the hard left and
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Speaker 2: all the socialist and Marxist madness that comes with that,
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Speaker 2: we were always going to get to a place where
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister would say all the right things about
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Speaker 2: the defense of our nation, and in particular Labour's support
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Speaker 2: for a nuclear powered submarine fleet, but it would be
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Speaker 2: exposed as yet another Albanese lie, because Albanese's heart's never
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Speaker 2: been in Orcus, and that was obvious. It's always been obvious.
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Speaker 2: The longer Labor was left in charge, the more that
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Speaker 2: over time ORCUS would get watered down. And so it
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Speaker 2: was today that former Labor Cabinet minister Ed Husick entered
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Speaker 2: the fray with a raft of other Labor insiders to
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Speaker 2: demand that Australia must rethink its commitment to Orcus and
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Speaker 2: to nuclear submarines in particular, in a sign of a
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Speaker 2: real breakaway challenge to Albanese's authority, Husick has demanded a
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Speaker 2: new caucus vote on the Orcus agreement.
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Speaker 4: So it'll be a.
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Speaker 2: Question you want to rethink it.
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Speaker 5: It should be rethought because I think, based on the
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Speaker 5: production rate, based on reality, this is going to be
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Speaker 5: forced on us. So we should be rethinking.
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Speaker 2: With Labour's national conference set to meet in July, where
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Speaker 2: decisions there are binding, and where there's already disquiet about ORCUS,
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Speaker 2: with a left faction now in control of the numbers, well,
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Speaker 2: Cuesi's push today is ominous not just for the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister's authority, but also for our country and our ability
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Speaker 2: to defend ourselves in an increasingly more uncertain global security environment. Now,
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Speaker 2: there are two key drivers behind this move today by
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Speaker 2: Husick to get up in the caucus room and openly
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Speaker 2: question the validity the viability of UCUS and to challenge
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Speaker 2: then it's all by briefing it out to the media. Now.
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Speaker 2: The first is that modern labor does not believe in
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Speaker 2: a defense force where our military gets deployed to defend
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Speaker 2: our values, where the legal use of lethal force is
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Speaker 2: a primary purpose for its existence, and where our alliances
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Speaker 2: matter on defense Labour's week, they think our defense force
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Speaker 2: is just a smarter dressed version of the SEES to
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Speaker 2: the deployed in times of natural disaster but otherwise kept
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Speaker 2: out of harm's way, less the ADFS chronic underfunding be exposed.
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Speaker 2: And the other thing behind Labour's dislike of ORCUS is
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Speaker 2: that the hard heads know the creation of a nuclear
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Speaker 2: powered submarine program in Australia will require a nuclear industry
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Speaker 2: to sustain it, and that blows apart one of the
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Speaker 2: left's big arguments against nuclear power. We in Australia, they say,
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Speaker 2: don't have the knowledge base or the expertise to run
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Speaker 2: a nuclear energy program here. Well, if we've got a
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Speaker 2: nuclear subs base in Adelaide one in Perth, you bet
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Speaker 2: we do. And that's because small modular reactors that are
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Speaker 2: the mainstay of a nuclear power grid in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: six a virtually the same reactor type as that which
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Speaker 2: powers are nuclear sub meaning that once we have nuclear
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Speaker 2: subs here, we have the ready potential for nuclear power
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Speaker 2: in terms of local engineers and physicists, regardless of whether
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Speaker 2: or not we maintain the fiction of Australia's nuclear power ban.
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Speaker 2: Now that's the reality. That's what's driving today's move by
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Speaker 2: Hughsick and others in Canberra. And it's the others here
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Speaker 2: that matter as much as Husick because they show how
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Speaker 2: serious this anti Aucus push really is. We saw the
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Speaker 2: former Minister, the Midnight Old frontman Peter Garrett, who, let's
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Speaker 2: not forget, cut his political teeth in the nuclear disarmament
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Speaker 2: movement in the seventies and eighties. We saw the freeman
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Speaker 2: to MP Josh Wilson, the man who represents a seat
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Speaker 2: where one of the nuclear sub bases will go and
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Speaker 2: who almost lost that seat last year, to agree, as
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Speaker 2: well as a whole of the left wing union leaders
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Speaker 2: and the former Prime Minister too, Paul Keating. So let's
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Speaker 2: pull this apart. Labour's not serious about defense. Well, that
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Speaker 2: self evident if you look at the budget. A report
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Speaker 2: today in The Australian that Labour's been accused of cooking
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Speaker 2: the books by using more than ten billion dollars in
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Speaker 2: welfare payments to veterans and two billion in funding for
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Speaker 2: intelligence agencies to bolster the headline defense spending number to
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Speaker 2: make it look a lot bigger than it really is. Strategically,
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Speaker 2: to look at the lip service the government's paid to
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Speaker 2: our allies, Look at how we've rolled over on Palestine
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Speaker 2: in the UN and our refusal multiple times to provide
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Speaker 2: any support into the Middle East, even where our interest
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Speaker 2: in liquid fuels are at risk. As far as Labour's concerned,
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Speaker 2: our defense force is a humanitarian outfit. It's for natural
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Speaker 2: disaster relief. It's not for lethal force projection. It's to
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Speaker 2: help people, not to kill people, as if they're somewhat
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Speaker 2: embarrassed that that's the job of soldiers. And nothing shows
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Speaker 2: that more than the way the Albanezer governments secretly change
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Speaker 2: the definition of a war crime before they went out
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Speaker 2: and charged one of Australia's most decorated war heroes. Listen
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Speaker 2: to these comments today from former Admiral Chris Barry.
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Speaker 6: I can certainly see a scenario where if we had
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Speaker 6: nuclear submarines, and the United States wanted to go off
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Speaker 6: and rip an arm and a leg off China over Taiwan.
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Speaker 6: How nuclear submarines would be involved. But I'd like to
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Speaker 6: be convinced that's in Australia's best interests because the way
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Speaker 6: I'm seeing in the world at the moment, China is
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Speaker 6: going to become the dominant global power in the near future,
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Speaker 6: and I think we might need to recalibrate our defense
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Speaker 6: posture and national security structure to recognize that fact. I've
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Speaker 6: had some really wonderful years working with my American friends,
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Speaker 6: but I really wonder what's happened over the last four
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Speaker 6: or five years to that relationship.
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Speaker 2: Now give me a break. That's a complete surrender monkey
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Speaker 2: position that we basically give up our region we acquiesce
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Speaker 2: to China. And yet he says, you know, I've got
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Speaker 2: some good mates, some good relationships I've had with people
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Speaker 2: in the US and the past. But what because he
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Speaker 2: doesn't like Trump, we should just give up. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is madness. Our alliances are much bigger than any
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Speaker 2: one individual, any admiral, and certainly any president. And we
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Speaker 2: have an alliance called Orcus because it's a two way
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Speaker 2: street and it ceases to be a two way street
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Speaker 2: if we expect the United States to hold up their
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Speaker 2: end and we don't hold up ours. Now, Labor doesn't
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Speaker 2: like defense and it's terrified that nuclear subs will mean
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Speaker 2: nuclear power because there goes the gravy train of renewables
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Speaker 2: and net zero. Because it's always been about the billions
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Speaker 2: in subs, billions in subsidies, you know that, Never about
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Speaker 2: the planet, never about low emissions. Just global foreign aid
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Speaker 2: by another means the latest game for the un grifters.
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Speaker 2: So my tip here, watch the Prime Minister very carefully.
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Speaker 2: He'll pretend he's still backing Orcast, but he will let
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Speaker 2: this happen and it will all come to a head.
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Speaker 2: As I said at July. In July at Labour's national conference,
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Speaker 2: trust me, nothing in Canberra is accidental. All right, let's
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Speaker 2: go to Cambra now for the headlines. Sky News political
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Speaker 2: reporter cam Reddin good evening.
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Speaker 7: Labour MP Ed Husick has challenged the Prime Minister to
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Speaker 7: reconsider the Orchest deal.
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Speaker 5: It should be rethought because I think based on the
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Speaker 5: production rates, based on reality, this is going to be
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Speaker 5: forced on us.
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Speaker 7: Former Cabinet Minister Ed Husick, airing his shopping list of
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Speaker 7: concerns on Sky News.
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Speaker 5: They've got two shipyards only that build these subs. They
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Speaker 5: have workforce shortages, they have supply chain constraints, they have
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Speaker 5: quality concerns, and there's the complexity of the build.
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Speaker 7: Confidence in the program has been further shaken by a
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Speaker 7: decision to downgrade the delivery of US Virginia class subs
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Speaker 7: to Australia from one new and two used vessels to
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Speaker 7: a fleet of three second hand ones.
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Speaker 3: What has changed? Was it Australia that initiated this change
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Speaker 3: or was it the United States that did so?
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Speaker 7: The Fair Work Commission has granted a pay rise to
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Speaker 7: nearly three million Australians above the current rate of inflation.
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Speaker 8: The national minimum wage will be increased to one thousand
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Speaker 8: and four dollars and ninety cents per week or twenty
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Speaker 8: six dollars and forty four cents per hour.
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Speaker 9: This is the pay rise that millions of Australian workers
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Speaker 9: need and deserve.
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Speaker 10: In particular, of course, the lowest paid osis are the
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Speaker 10: ones that are struggling the most of the.
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Speaker 2: Cost of living.
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Speaker 7: Parliament's newest MP has formerly been sworn in one nation's
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Speaker 7: David Farley is now officially the member for Pharah.
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Speaker 8: So help you God, I do so help me got.
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Speaker 7: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: I might say that's becoming a bit of a rarity
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Speaker 2: to get sworn on the Bible there, but he was
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Speaker 2: David Farley left. Don't they take the affirmation? But not
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Speaker 2: so on the right. Let's go there to Canberrask going
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Speaker 2: of New Political Leeditor Andrew Cleanell joins me, let's look
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Speaker 2: at this research out there today that there could be Andrew,
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Speaker 2: a one trillion dollar hit to home values as a
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Speaker 2: result of Labour's tax changes. We saw obviously on the
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Speaker 2: weekend that's six year low in auction clearance rates. With
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Speaker 2: the Treasurer he says, well, that's a good thing.
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Speaker 9: But if we are making it easier for first home
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Speaker 9: buyers to get a fair crack at auctions, then that's
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Speaker 9: a good thing. There are other factors like interest rates,
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Speaker 9: and that's why we had already seen some movement in
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Speaker 9: auction clearance rates before the budget.
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Speaker 2: All right, mate, For everyone who's trying to buy a
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Speaker 2: home is someone who is selling it and getting a
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Speaker 2: worse deal because of these tax policies. But a lot
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Speaker 2: of people like me and you. I presume we're not
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Speaker 2: selling our homes, but we don't want them to drop
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Speaker 2: in value either. I think the politics here are very
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Speaker 2: problematic for the trus run.
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Speaker 11: Oh they are, But how else could he spin it right?
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Speaker 11: What else could he say? And that's what he's done.
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Speaker 11: That's the only direction you'd go. But I mean, political
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Speaker 11: strategist professionals have told me for many years that it
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Speaker 11: is a vex question politically. The fact that you've got
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Speaker 11: a lot of parents out there who think my children
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Speaker 11: won't be able to afford to live in the city
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Speaker 11: that I live in, but they don't want their house
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Speaker 11: prices to drop. So when you introduce changes like this,
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Speaker 11: you're sort of hitting both sides of the argument. But
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Speaker 11: these changes don't seem to have convinced people because young
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Speaker 11: people can't rent, vest and that kind of thing. This
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Speaker 11: is a perfect storm. It's a situation where you've got
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Speaker 11: the rate hikes on the one hand, driving down prices,
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Speaker 11: driving down confidence, the IRA more and the cost of
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Speaker 11: living crisis the same. And then on the other hand,
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Speaker 11: therefore it's not a great idea to introduce these sort
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Speaker 11: of tax changes which hurt the housing market. So I
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Speaker 11: think it's next year or so. It's a good time
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Speaker 11: to buy. If you're looking to buy, it's good news.
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Speaker 11: If you're looking to sell, it's terrible news. And that
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Speaker 11: generally is a political problem for a government.
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Speaker 2: Well, if the Treasure was right that it's helping more
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Speaker 2: young people get into a home, the clearances on the
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Speaker 2: weekend would have been higher. We wouldn't be at a
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Speaker 2: six year low. That's part of the problem. But also
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Speaker 2: when you've got rising interest rates and they say there's
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Speaker 2: two or maybe three rate rises still to go this year,
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Speaker 2: you're requiring people to have more and more of a
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Speaker 2: deposit and more and more on that assessment that the
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Speaker 2: banks do in terms of their financial wherewithal to meet
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Speaker 2: the projections of where rates could go. So it's not
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Speaker 2: the win that the Treasure is trying to spit it as.
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Speaker 12: Well.
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Speaker 11: The thing is in there a major capital cities, the
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Speaker 11: prices are too high for first time buyers anyway, so
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Speaker 11: it's kind of like the horse has bolted. And there
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Speaker 11: was nothing in that budget from the Treasury modeling, and
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Speaker 11: god knows how they come up with that modeling, which
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Speaker 11: suggested there'd be a significant change in house prices because
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Speaker 11: of their measures.
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Speaker 5: Because if your.
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Speaker 11: Grandfather the negative gearing, for example, it just doesn't have
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Speaker 11: a big enough effect over time, it might just grow less.
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Speaker 11: I mean, they said nineteen thousand dollars off the median
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Speaker 11: price of a home. So Jim Charmer's there, he has
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Speaker 11: to say that that's a true thing. If prices go down,
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Speaker 11: it's better for first home buyers, but it's still pretty
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Speaker 11: pretty damn hard for them, and it shows a bad
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Speaker 11: situation politically for the government, as I said, because house
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Speaker 11: price is going down is never good for a government.
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Speaker 11: And I've said before with you. I think Peter I
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Speaker 11: was in New South Wales when the car government Michael
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Speaker 11: Egan Bob Carr introduced a vendor tax on investors investment
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Speaker 11: properties at the same time as a property slump, and
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Speaker 11: they had to reverse it because that was very bad
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Speaker 11: news for them politically house prices going down and at
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Speaker 11: tax being put on investors.
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Speaker 2: Of course they could fix part of the supply problem
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Speaker 2: by not putting so many people into the market, by
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Speaker 2: shutting the door. We get to twenty eight million today.
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Speaker 2: We saw that and most of that two to one's
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Speaker 2: coming from migration, not live births. In Australia. But before
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Speaker 2: we get to that, we'll get to that in the moment.
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Speaker 2: David Farley sworn in today, of course one nation riding
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Speaker 2: high in those polls yesterday, eclipsing Labor on primary vote.
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Speaker 2: You asked Pauline Hanson about her aspiration to be prime minister.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a moment, but this is
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Speaker 2: an assessment from Paul Kelly today.
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Speaker 4: She could be a lot worse than elbow. She could
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Speaker 4: be a lot worse than elbow, and at some point,
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Speaker 4: at some point Austrodian common sense and resilience and capacity
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Speaker 4: to assess politics has got to come into play with
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Speaker 4: some sensible assessments of the limitations of Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 2: Well, Andrew, do you think that's going to happen?
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Speaker 11: Well, I saw Paul Kelly around the corner just before
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Speaker 11: he said, good interview, so I was pretty stoked with that, Peter.
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Speaker 11: But I think I don't think there's any assurances in
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Speaker 11: this life. I mean, when you look at Donald Trump
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Speaker 11: winning with the same sort of platform, the same sort
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Speaker 11: of anti establishment platform, when you look at Brexit getting up,
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Speaker 11: when you look at Nigel Farage being in the lead
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Speaker 11: in Britain, and a chance of being UK Prime minister.
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Speaker 11: Anything is possible. And the government vote is declining, it
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Speaker 11: is declining, So you know this happened with them around
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Speaker 11: the voice. They came back, they came up with some
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Speaker 11: policies that worked in the election. They can pete at
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Speaker 11: the right time again. And the preference situation here makes
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Speaker 11: it different from Britain, and the compulsory voting makes it
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Speaker 11: different from Britain. So Labour has a bit more of
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Speaker 11: an advantage there. But if you were complacent against the
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Speaker 11: one nation threat at the moment of the Labor Party,
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Speaker 11: that would be a big mistake. And if in the
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Speaker 11: Liberal Party you have to be very very concerned indeed,
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Speaker 11: But it's just hard slog chipping away, chipping away, chipping away,
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Speaker 11: hoping one nation gets a bit more scrutiny that they
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Speaker 11: stuff up, and hoping your messages get out there. But
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Speaker 11: by gee, it's it's a long ride at the moment,
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Speaker 11: and it doesn't show signs of shifting for months at least.
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Speaker 2: Well, I argue it's taken a decade for the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party to get in this position, for there to be
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Speaker 2: a vacuum that so clearly she has walked into it.
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Speaker 2: It's been turbocharged since last year's May election. You know,
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Speaker 2: a long time Susan Lee and was six percent at
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Speaker 2: that election under Dunton. It went from six to now
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Speaker 2: in the thirties. And this is the challenge for the Liberals.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's really significant. You saw, as
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Speaker 2: I mentioned before, twenty eight million today. We were never
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Speaker 2: to get to twenty eight million for a long long time.
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Speaker 2: We've hit twenty eight will soon be thirty by twenty thirty.
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Speaker 2: That was meant to happen at the end of next decade.
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Speaker 2: And it's two to one. It's a rivals you know,
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Speaker 2: a new person coming into this country every fifty nine
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Speaker 2: seconds and a new birth every two minutes. And this
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Speaker 2: is what Redbridge in that poll yesterday says is a
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Speaker 2: huge issue and the only one they really trust is
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Speaker 2: One Nation.
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Speaker 11: Well, the One Nation vote doubled after the Bondo massacre,
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Speaker 11: and that speaks for itself in my view. That's people
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Speaker 11: saying that they have a view that there are people
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Speaker 11: with the wrong ideology being allowed into this country. Whether
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Speaker 11: that's you know, it's a generalization, whether it's right or wrong, whatever,
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Speaker 11: not wrong, but there are instances of that occurring and
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Speaker 11: that's that's what Turbo charges a vote. I mean, you
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Speaker 11: just have to look at the timeline and when they
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Speaker 11: have a look. And even if you looked at the
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Speaker 11: way that Pauline conducted herself on Sunday morning with me,
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Speaker 11: she was, you know, straight, she spoke honestly, she spoke
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Speaker 11: like Australians. She didn't do the talking points. These guys
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Speaker 11: need to recalibrate this talking point rubbish because I see
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Speaker 11: it every day and I could answer the questions with them, Peter,
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Speaker 11: so I could interview myself. I could say, you know,
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Speaker 11: what do you think of August Well or Cassandra is
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Speaker 11: very a great program for Australia and as the alliance
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Speaker 11: is important. I mean they're just reasonat learning year twelve exams.
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Speaker 11: They're reading it, they're memorizing it, and they're regurgitating it. Well,
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Speaker 11: you know, I reckon I could get my sixteen year
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Speaker 11: old daughter to do that. I mean, these guys need
19:17
Speaker 11: to just be a bit more nimble and a bit
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Speaker 11: more intelligent and take a few more risks. They might
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Speaker 11: get the plaud it's at the PM or the Opposition
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Speaker 11: leader's office for spouting the talking points, and by all
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Speaker 11: means Chuck a couple of messages in don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 11: but the difference between them enhancement and people aren't mugs.
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Speaker 11: They see it. And Barnaby two, especially Barnaby, I mean
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Speaker 11: he is an amazing retail politician. Is these people just
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Speaker 11: talk plainly. They still get the messages out, but they
19:44
Speaker 11: talk plainly. They're not like robins. And I think you
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Speaker 11: know that labor and liberal politicians really need something of
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Speaker 11: a re education on this front, and would do a
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Speaker 11: lot better if they if they did this, if they
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Speaker 11: took a few more risks, calculated risks.
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Speaker 2: So I remember working for a bloke the media used
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Speaker 2: to mock that he spoke simply and repeated his messages,
20:06
Speaker 2: but proofs in the importing it was for him, for
20:09
Speaker 2: Tony Abbot, of course, and it certainly is for Paul
20:11
Speaker 2: and Hands and Andrew. Thank you. Let's go out of
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Speaker 2: that disturbing story out of Queensland. A thirteen year old
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Speaker 2: boy behind bars tonight after allegedly becoming radicalized planning to
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Speaker 2: kill kids at school in Queensland. Thirteen years old Kuser
20:26
Speaker 2: shields father's report.
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Speaker 13: Police have allegedly foiled a teenager's murder plot after he
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Speaker 13: was radicalized online. The thirteen year old boy is accused
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Speaker 13: of threatening to stab a service station worker with a
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Speaker 13: kitchen knife in Maryborough on the Fraser Coast last Thursday.
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Speaker 2: He was arrested and interviewed. It's understood the.
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Speaker 13: Teenager told officers that he had wanted to kill people
20:53
Speaker 13: for months.
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Speaker 14: But he was released with a caution.
20:56
Speaker 13: Two days later, search warrants was executed at his home
20:59
Speaker 13: and an electronic device was seized.
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Speaker 12: We do have evidence that there was some planning towards
21:06
Speaker 12: death and GBH. The actions of the youth on that
21:09
Speaker 12: day did involve with a threat to a local school.
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Speaker 12: He was quite well advanced in his intention to cause
21:15
Speaker 12: death and GBH.
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Speaker 13: The thirteen year old boy was allegedly inspired by a
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Speaker 13: Russian school stabber and school shooters, which led him to
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Speaker 13: buy identical items of clothing online. He has been charged
21:28
Speaker 13: with one count teach of preparation or planning to cause
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Speaker 13: death or grievous bodily harm and possessing or controlling violent
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Speaker 13: extremist material obtained or accessed using a carriage of service.
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Speaker 13: The teenagers being remanded in custody. He's expected to reappear
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Speaker 13: in the Harvey Bay Children's Court on Friday.
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll discuss this now with former AFP Detective
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Speaker 2: Superintendent David Craig. We need to leave this case over
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Speaker 2: to one sign. But the fact that we're talking about
22:02
Speaker 2: a thirteen year old and the evidence that you and
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Speaker 2: I have discussed here before, confirmed again by Christy Barrett
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Speaker 2: the other day the AFP Commissioner that children are becoming
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Speaker 2: radicalized very quickly. She says, within days. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is terrifying to hear this tonight.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 15: Absolutely, Peter and Chrissy Barrett's on the money here. I mean,
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Speaker 15: modern extremism is being increasingly fueled by for effect, by algorithms,
22:33
Speaker 15: and it's being done on young minds, young minds that
22:36
Speaker 15: don't have the adult reasoning or deterrent fact that they
22:40
Speaker 15: just don't have that balance of life. I can see
22:45
Speaker 15: that twenty first century policing is now, it's no longer age,
22:49
Speaker 15: is no longer indicative of a threat.
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Speaker 2: And we also know in the case of Islamic State,
22:56
Speaker 2: a lot of people involved in Islamic State. I'm not
22:58
Speaker 2: referencing anyone who's come home recently to Australia, but a
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Speaker 2: lot of the work of those that spoke English. Should
23:03
Speaker 2: we've discussed this before was to reach out to countries
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Speaker 2: like Australia, UK and the United States and try and
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Speaker 2: radicalize young people in particular.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, and it's increasingly easy, Peter. It used to take
23:19
Speaker 15: face to face meetings over months to radicalize a person
23:22
Speaker 15: generally general historically speaking, but now it can take a
23:25
Speaker 15: mat matter of days. When they're getting they're in their
23:28
Speaker 15: echo chamber of hate and they just keep seeing the
23:30
Speaker 15: algorithm keeps delivering them the hate and the know how.
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Speaker 15: They can end up with a full twenty year hardened criminals,
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Speaker 15: encyclopedic knowledge of criminality by the age of the thirteen.
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Speaker 15: And this highlights again I have to raise it, Peter,
23:46
Speaker 15: that our counter Terrorism Handbook hasn't been updated since twenty nineteen.
23:51
Speaker 15: Now we'll soon have terrorist offenders and extremists older than
23:56
Speaker 15: the amendments in that terror handbook. We have not evolved
23:59
Speaker 15: with Our handbook has not evolved with terrorism. And this
24:03
Speaker 15: is the result.
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Speaker 2: Well, Nora, is the funding kept pace? I mean that
24:07
Speaker 2: was really clear from some digging around that the Royal
24:11
Speaker 2: Commissioner died originally initially tried to be blocked under Cabinet
24:16
Speaker 2: confidence rules. By the Albanesi government and they called this
24:20
Speaker 2: royal commission. This is their royal commission. So the idea
24:23
Speaker 2: of the commissioner needs to look at documents and funding,
24:26
Speaker 2: budget profiles, et cetera. And the government blocks it. Well,
24:30
Speaker 2: we all should be asking what are they trying to hide?
24:32
Speaker 2: So finally she sees the material and it's clear we're
24:35
Speaker 2: not spending the money where we should be spending it.
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Speaker 15: One hundred percent. We had been very effective in the
24:42
Speaker 15: lead up to the most recent years where anti Semitism
24:45
Speaker 15: has exploded, and obviously the Bondai massacre has occurred. You
24:49
Speaker 15: know when azo have a thirty seven percent increase in
24:52
Speaker 15: their in their budget and then they're spending less money
24:55
Speaker 15: than prior to the nine to eleven attacks on counter terrorism,
24:59
Speaker 15: what do we expect. Of course, we're going to have
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Speaker 15: a counter terror We're going to have a terrorist attack,
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Speaker 15: though warning of it they was spending less money on it.
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Speaker 2: David, last time I took my audience through the Isis Bride,
25:11
Speaker 2: she did not come home. This woman in recent cohorts,
25:15
Speaker 2: she slipped into Australia in September from Lebanon. Ryan Alholly
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Speaker 2: is her name. She is behind Bars. There was a
25:24
Speaker 2: German in her bail application. But the evidence that not evidence,
25:28
Speaker 2: it's not yet evidence. It's certainly the summary police report
25:33
Speaker 2: that was read out by the Chief Magistrate yesterday. The
25:37
Speaker 2: claim is that she was overseas in war zones, that
25:41
Speaker 2: she married several Islamic State fighters, that she supported the
25:45
Speaker 2: killing of anyone who wasn't a believer of Islam, so Christians,
25:50
Speaker 2: anyone not a Muslim. She was also accused of trying
25:55
Speaker 2: to recruit her own children into the terror group. Now again,
26:00
Speaker 2: and this one's before the courts, we'll let that play out.
26:02
Speaker 2: But that is just another example of how serious that
26:08
Speaker 2: the charges are against some of these women.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's very serious conduct alleged in this case, Peter,
26:17
Speaker 15: and it just shows I'm hardened by the court does
26:21
Speaker 15: seem in this case to be looking at wanting to
26:25
Speaker 15: see objective evidence of remorse and rejecting Islamic State, as
26:32
Speaker 15: I understand from what I've read.
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Speaker 12: Of this report.
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Speaker 15: Now, if that is happening, then the best demonstration any
26:38
Speaker 15: person could do after being involved with organized crime or terrorism,
26:42
Speaker 15: as the allegations are in this case, is to actually
26:45
Speaker 15: show the remorse and provide some insight the Australian Federal
26:49
Speaker 15: Police or Victorian Police in relation to who are the
26:52
Speaker 15: radical people in Australia and actually and presidents are set
26:56
Speaker 15: that courts will recognize people that assist, and the AFP
26:59
Speaker 15: is very adept at doing letters to the court in
27:03
Speaker 15: camera if you like. So if this person is seriously,
27:07
Speaker 15: seriously changed, then I expect some constructive demonstration of that.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go from someone who allegedly left Australia
27:16
Speaker 2: to join is Lamic State and married is Lamin state
27:18
Speaker 2: terrorist to someone we sent in uniform to kill those
27:22
Speaker 2: very terrorists. Ben Robert Smith this report in the Nightly
27:25
Speaker 2: this afternoon, and I find this extraordinary that the timetable
27:31
Speaker 2: in his case has been put back, and it's been
27:35
Speaker 2: put back because the prosecution say they need another three
27:39
Speaker 2: months at least to get together the evidence to present
27:44
Speaker 2: their brief. Now without their brief, he can't prepare his defense.
27:50
Speaker 2: So how is it we found this out last week?
27:52
Speaker 2: In sent at estimates that we've got the Attorney General,
27:54
Speaker 2: Michelle Roland, who can sign off of his arrest warrant
27:58
Speaker 2: within a couple of days. But now we're told there's
28:01
Speaker 2: not enough evidence to give him that brief so that
28:05
Speaker 2: his lawyers can start working on his case enough to
28:09
Speaker 2: charge and arrest him, but not enough to give him
28:12
Speaker 2: the brief of evidence.
28:15
Speaker 15: Yeah, it does seem a little bit out of kilter, Peter.
28:19
Speaker 15: I mean that the fact that it turned around so quickly. Now,
28:22
Speaker 15: this investigation I've read that has been has lasted for
28:25
Speaker 15: more than a decade, and clearly there was some urgency
28:29
Speaker 15: that we don't know about. This is the only rationale
28:31
Speaker 15: I can think of is that there was some absolute
28:34
Speaker 15: urgency where the AG had to sign off on it
28:36
Speaker 15: and we had to make that spectacular arrest at the airport.
28:39
Speaker 15: Otherwise he was going to flee the jurisdiction or something
28:42
Speaker 15: of that ilk. Otherwise, why would you work on something
28:47
Speaker 15: for ten years, put a thing before the execution of
28:51
Speaker 15: the search warrant, sorry, arrest warrant in front of the AG,
28:54
Speaker 15: and then not have the evidence to give at least
28:57
Speaker 15: give them a summary brief of evidence of.
28:59
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I find it extraordinary. I think it's very murky.
29:04
Speaker 2: David Craig, thank you. Right aft the break the key
29:07
Speaker 2: figures underpinning the budget that Treasury got wrong. These are
29:11
Speaker 2: the numbers that Treasury got wrong. Doesn't matter though, Labors
29:15
Speaker 2: still going to try and ram through that legislation anyway.
29:19
Speaker 2: And these powers that Jim Charmers wants to give himself,
29:23
Speaker 2: does he think he is now above the parliament? Welcome back?
29:31
Speaker 2: Police finally released shocking footage out of the UK has
29:34
Speaker 2: led to claims of a two tier justice system, racist
29:39
Speaker 2: and allegations too, and a Keir Starmer who's failed to
29:43
Speaker 2: address the issues. We'll get to that in the moment
29:45
Speaker 2: with Sophie Ellsworth, but now to major error from Treasury.
29:49
Speaker 2: Key figures were that we used to justify the unpopular
29:53
Speaker 2: alban easy government tax package, where we now find out
29:57
Speaker 2: those figures were wrong. Relates to a speech last week
30:01
Speaker 2: from the Treasury Secretary Jenny Wilkinson, who last Thursday told
30:06
Speaker 2: economists the new modeling show that under the settings for
30:10
Speaker 2: negative gear in capital gains, tax and trusts quote, the
30:14
Speaker 2: median income earner is assessed as having benefited to the
30:17
Speaker 2: tune of around fifty seven hundred dollars, so five seven
30:23
Speaker 2: hundred over their working lives. Well, that's wrong, but no
30:28
Speaker 2: apology from Jim Chalmers. In fact, he's doubled down.
30:32
Speaker 9: Whether the average worker is better off by five or
30:35
Speaker 9: ten thousand dollars. The comparison that she is making treasure
30:39
Speaker 9: the comparison. The comparison that she's making is with the
30:42
Speaker 9: top one percent benefiting by seven hundred thousand.
30:46
Speaker 2: Right here. To discuss this in more, former Treasury Assistant
30:48
Speaker 2: Secretary David Pearl, David, thank you. A pretty significant error
30:54
Speaker 2: on a very polarizing policy.
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Speaker 14: Evening, Peter, was a significant error, and it was an
31:02
Speaker 14: embarrassing one Treasury. Having worked there for over twenty years,
31:06
Speaker 14: I can tell you should get the numbers right. And
31:09
Speaker 14: this was a headline number. It wasn't some obscure footnote.
31:13
Speaker 14: So that's embarrassing, but I don't think it was the
31:15
Speaker 14: big story. From Jenny Wilkinson's speech, she crossed two lines
31:19
Speaker 14: for Treasury secretaries. One, she openly cheer led this tax
31:25
Speaker 14: package by describing it as the most significant tax reform
31:28
Speaker 14: in twenty five years and comparing it to the Howard
31:31
Speaker 14: Costello and Keating Hawk tax changes, which I thought was
31:36
Speaker 14: ridiculous for a public servant to do. And then secondly,
31:38
Speaker 14: she's the first ever Treasury secretary to my knowledge, Peter,
31:42
Speaker 14: who has said that savings income should be taxed in
31:47
Speaker 14: exactly the same way as labor income. No other Treasury secretary,
31:53
Speaker 14: no serious economist who understands savings taxation would maintain that.
32:00
Speaker 14: She's come out and said that, and she said not
32:03
Speaker 14: one thing about how savings are funded from post tax income,
32:07
Speaker 14: so they've already been taxed once. It's going to make
32:09
Speaker 14: that point savings, how investment is subject to risk and uncertainty,
32:15
Speaker 14: and how investment results in capital formation, economic growth and
32:19
Speaker 14: high living standards. She did not make one reference to
32:22
Speaker 14: the importance of savings and investment to growth and living standards.
32:26
Speaker 14: I think that's staggering.
32:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a point that gets lost in
32:32
Speaker 2: this debate if I'm honest, David, and I think this
32:34
Speaker 2: is something that the Opposition's got to make more of
32:36
Speaker 2: the fact that we talk about savings, and we talk
32:39
Speaker 2: about that investment property it's all bought with dollars that
32:43
Speaker 2: the government's already taken half or basically half for most Australians,
32:48
Speaker 2: so they've already paid tax on them. This idea that
32:50
Speaker 2: there's somehow getting a windfall gain is wrong.
32:56
Speaker 14: It is and unless you inherit wealth from your parents,
33:01
Speaker 14: which I think very few Australians are in the position
33:03
Speaker 14: of doing your savings comes from your labor income, your
33:08
Speaker 14: post tax labor income. So again Jim Charmers and Jenny
33:12
Speaker 14: Wilkinson drawing this false distinction between people who earn labor
33:17
Speaker 14: income on the one hand and capital income on the other,
33:20
Speaker 14: implying that they're completely separate. That's kindergarten politics.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to these accusations today when we
33:29
Speaker 2: found out a little bit more about the legislation, that
33:32
Speaker 2: there'll be all these areas in the bill that are
33:35
Speaker 2: even when it passes the parliament. I might add that
33:37
Speaker 2: are reserved back for the Treasurer down the track. I'm
33:41
Speaker 2: assuming this is via a regulation or something else where
33:44
Speaker 2: he'll get to fill in the blanks. So it doesn't
33:47
Speaker 2: matter what gets passed through the parliament. In the end,
33:50
Speaker 2: it'll be up to Jim to decide, you know, what
33:53
Speaker 2: number goes in here, or what class of asset gets
33:57
Speaker 2: taxed in a particular way. It looks like he's a
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Speaker 2: the parliament.
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Speaker 14: I'm not sure about that. You might be right, Peter,
34:05
Speaker 14: I haven't checked the detail. My understanding was that Charmers
34:09
Speaker 14: was saying today that they would be disallowable instruments, that
34:13
Speaker 14: he would have the discretion to make important definitional calls,
34:17
Speaker 14: but that the ultimate regulations, if you like, could be
34:22
Speaker 14: challenged by Parliament. But the bigger picture here, Peter again,
34:26
Speaker 14: is that the government's philosophy is to direct capital into
34:30
Speaker 14: politically favored or other favored areas, and they've assigned a
34:36
Speaker 14: massive tax advantage for new dwellings to attract residential investment.
34:41
Speaker 14: And that's why Jim Chalmers has to worry about the definition,
34:45
Speaker 14: because you're going to create the risk of a cottage
34:48
Speaker 14: industry or a larger industry to basically take existing dwellings
34:53
Speaker 14: and convert them into new dwellings by certain types of renovations.
34:58
Speaker 14: And I think that's what treasure is and charmers are
35:01
Speaker 14: worried about. They've created this tax advantaged asset and you
35:05
Speaker 14: wait and see, there'll be a big industry springing up
35:08
Speaker 14: overnight to take advantage of it.
35:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are right that they are disallowable instruments in
35:14
Speaker 2: the Senate. There's a number of Senate working days that
35:16
Speaker 2: you can move to disallow you table and move. But
35:19
Speaker 2: of course Labor's got a lot of the numbers up
35:21
Speaker 2: there with the Greens, and the Greens allowing want it
35:23
Speaker 2: worse than perhaps charmers puts it into the books. What
35:27
Speaker 2: about the accusation that labor's cooked the books. You know,
35:30
Speaker 2: they've got this macro number for what they're spending on defense,
35:34
Speaker 2: But when you dig through, as the report of the
35:36
Speaker 2: Australian did today, ten billion dollars of the defense number
35:40
Speaker 2: that we all thinks on ships and aeroplanes is actually
35:43
Speaker 2: on veterans' welfare. There's another two billion that we're putting
35:47
Speaker 2: into our intelligence agencies. And you and I know they're
35:50
Speaker 2: not even in the Defense department. These are over in
35:54
Speaker 2: the Home Affairs department. So it's not a fair figure.
35:56
Speaker 2: It's smoke and mirrors.
36:00
Speaker 14: Well, unfortunately, I think the Australian government's following the lead
36:03
Speaker 14: taken by the NATO European NATO governments because I think
36:07
Speaker 14: Donald Trump has allowed them to use some of these
36:11
Speaker 14: accounting tricks to boost their military spending. But my understanding
36:15
Speaker 14: is that the Australian government has gone even further. We're
36:19
Speaker 14: at about two percent of GDP. Paul Dibb, the father
36:23
Speaker 14: of Australian defense policy in the eighties, came out today,
36:26
Speaker 14: Peter you would know, and said that US spend should
36:29
Speaker 14: be three to four percent of GDP, or to get
36:32
Speaker 14: to four percent or even three and a half percent
36:34
Speaker 14: of GDP from where we are now, to give your
36:37
Speaker 14: viewers an idea of the orders of magnitude, you'd have
36:39
Speaker 14: to abolish the NDIS overnight at the very least in
36:43
Speaker 14: order to maintain tax at reasonable levels and ramp up
36:47
Speaker 14: defense spending. We would have to basically redesign the entire
36:51
Speaker 14: welfare state. And that's the hard choice we face, and
36:55
Speaker 14: that the Coalition and Labor need to be upfront about
36:58
Speaker 14: an even one nation too.
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Speaker 2: But the other point I'd.
37:02
Speaker 14: Made for Peter is that please David, yes, oh, just
37:06
Speaker 14: very quickly, Peter, and you and your viewers know this.
37:08
Speaker 14: If we doubled triple defense spending, would we have any
37:11
Speaker 14: confidence that the defense establishment in Australia would spend it
37:15
Speaker 14: soundly and rationally. I think that's the other problem. It's
37:18
Speaker 14: the wasting competence at Russell in the act.
37:23
Speaker 2: You are not wrong. As soon as you asked that question,
37:26
Speaker 2: I think we both knew the answer there. I'll leave
37:28
Speaker 2: it at that point, David, thank you all. Right, after
37:31
Speaker 2: the break, we're going to go to the UK. A
37:33
Speaker 2: young man was killed, but as he lay diving dying.
37:37
Speaker 2: The killer accused him of racism, so police arrested him
37:41
Speaker 2: as he was bleeding to death. It's a huge issue
37:44
Speaker 2: in London and it's reinvigorated the whole Black Lives Matter
37:48
Speaker 2: crowd as well. We'll see you soon. Welcome back the
37:54
Speaker 2: Sex Discrimination Commissioner as she's resurfaced. She's not covered herself
37:58
Speaker 2: in glory to that. In a moment, we'll go now
38:01
Speaker 2: to the UK, where a court has jailed twenty three
38:03
Speaker 2: year old Vicarim Digua for life after he fatally stabbed
38:07
Speaker 2: an eighteen year old university student with a large blade
38:10
Speaker 2: they claim to carry for religious reasons. He's a Sikh.
38:14
Speaker 2: Now the UK Police, after sustained pressure, have released the
38:17
Speaker 2: following footage awarding some of you may find it disturbing.
38:22
Speaker 16: And put the hand in the cuff mate.
38:34
Speaker 2: There he is handcuffed after he was stabbed. Significant backlash
38:39
Speaker 2: for the police and the way they've handled that. They
38:42
Speaker 2: initially believe the killer's false account that he was being
38:46
Speaker 2: racially abused. Here had discussed its guy and his contributing
38:49
Speaker 2: News Corp European correspondent Sophy El's worth. So for the
38:54
Speaker 2: family of Henry Novak, that's the young man who was killed.
38:57
Speaker 2: No whack, I should say, have laid for their son's
39:01
Speaker 2: death squarely with police, and his father spoke to the media.
39:04
Speaker 2: Have a listen.
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Speaker 17: Henry was pulled across the gravel, his hands forced behind
39:09
Speaker 17: his back and he was placed in handcuffs. Instead of
39:13
Speaker 17: being treated as a dying victim, police formally arrested Henry
39:17
Speaker 17: for assault and read him his rights. That was the
39:21
Speaker 17: last thing he heard.
39:24
Speaker 2: This has been huge news for some time in the UK,
39:27
Speaker 2: but the last two or three days, honestly I've seen
39:31
Speaker 2: nothing but people reacting to their sofa.
39:36
Speaker 18: Well, Peter, that visionnaire is incredibly disturbing. Its broadcast all
39:41
Speaker 18: over the media. He talked back Radio this morning has
39:44
Speaker 18: been flooded with paulers furious at the handling of this
39:47
Speaker 18: pace by the British police and that matter is now
39:51
Speaker 18: before the Police Watchdog. But Peter, this is incredibly concerning
39:57
Speaker 18: that people are allowed in this country to carry these
40:00
Speaker 18: extremely large knives for what they claim is religious reasons.
40:05
Speaker 18: And Nigel Prage has been on radio this morning discussing this.
40:09
Speaker 18: I'm really saying that there is two tier policing here
40:13
Speaker 18: in the UK and Unfortunately for white people, they're being
40:17
Speaker 18: treated lesser than black people here in the UK. That
40:22
Speaker 18: is the argument that he's making, and he's very concerned
40:25
Speaker 18: about the rising migration here. So there's a whole rafter
40:28
Speaker 18: issues that have been brought to before here as a
40:32
Speaker 18: result of this terribly sad case.
40:34
Speaker 2: Peter, Yeah, good of you have mentioned Nigel Farage. I've
40:37
Speaker 2: got that clip that you mentioned there from his response
40:42
Speaker 2: this morning. Let's have a listen.
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Speaker 1: Henry's family have responded to this in just the most
40:49
Speaker 1: extraordinarily dignified way, But I suggest the rest of us
40:54
Speaker 1: respond to this with pure cold rage. This is wrong.
41:01
Speaker 1: All the values and standards of living in a free
41:03
Speaker 1: country where everybody is judged equally before the law, have
41:08
Speaker 1: been trashed and thrown away.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been an exemption in many places for Sikhs
41:15
Speaker 2: to have these ceremonial knives, but there's still a weapon.
41:18
Speaker 2: They still work, as you can obviously see in the
41:20
Speaker 2: case of this young man. And of course when you
41:22
Speaker 2: make it distinction for one religion to carry a weapon,
41:26
Speaker 2: I think Nigel's point in the rest of that interview
41:29
Speaker 2: goes on, where does that end, Sophie. So you've got
41:33
Speaker 2: almost nothing from the Prime Minister. I find that extraordinary too,
41:36
Speaker 2: because the accusation by the killer was that this bloke
41:40
Speaker 2: was a racist. So they arrest the young man dying.
41:43
Speaker 2: But Keirs Starmer and all these labor MPs who took
41:47
Speaker 2: a need for George Floyd when he died at the
41:50
Speaker 2: hands of police in the US, well, they are silent
41:54
Speaker 2: on this.
41:57
Speaker 12: Here.
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Speaker 18: Starmer has said that this should this matter should be
42:00
Speaker 18: taken to the police watchdog. But yes, Peter, he has
42:03
Speaker 18: largely said very little about this. Now, this is the
42:06
Speaker 18: British Prime Minister, as you just referenced, who took the
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Speaker 18: knee for George Floyd, and we are not seeing that
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Speaker 18: in the UK. We saw the Winston Churchill statue graffiti
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Speaker 18: during that time, we saw so many protests, not a
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Speaker 18: single thing here in the UK. And interestingly, Peter, that
42:24
Speaker 18: interview with Nigel Farrage in the last hour was not
42:27
Speaker 18: broadcast on any of the main TV networks. They were
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Speaker 18: pointing this out on radio this morning. They're not even
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Speaker 18: taking Nigel Farrage on this. Now, this has been another
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Speaker 18: leader one of the other parties they would have and
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Speaker 18: that just shows this huge divide here in Britain now
42:43
Speaker 18: and I think this case will only get more and
42:46
Speaker 18: more attention as the day's roll on by media who
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Speaker 18: are giving it the service that it deserves. Because Peter,
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Speaker 18: this is incredibly serious. This young man, in his final
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Speaker 18: moments he was being read his legal right. Does he
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Speaker 18: lay on a footpath or on the pavement dying? And
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Speaker 18: that is incredibly concerning.
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Speaker 2: That's horrific, Sophie. We'll leave it there. I think just
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Speaker 2: as troubling as all of this too is the way
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Speaker 2: in which the media has silenced the political debate that
43:17
Speaker 2: should be held around issues like this political debate coming
43:21
Speaker 2: up though the ABC has appointed Grace Tame. I tell
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Speaker 2: you Australians should be very angry about this. We'll get
43:29
Speaker 2: to that in a moment. Welcome back. When she yelled out,
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Speaker 2: Grace Tame. This is when she yelled out globalizing into
43:41
Speaker 2: FADA to a packed crowd. A lot of Australians called
43:44
Speaker 2: for her to be stripped of her Australian of the
43:47
Speaker 2: Year honor. Certainly those comments were anti Israel. Well certainly
43:53
Speaker 2: got a job now though with the ABC joining me now,
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Speaker 2: my paneled former liberal m Pinak Flint and Skyney's host
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Speaker 2: Jamie Rodgers. Well, there you go, Nicole. The ABC says
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Speaker 2: it's impartial, it's balanced, it's all of these things. But
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Speaker 2: that's not balanced when it comes to Australian Jews and
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Speaker 2: to Israel.
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Speaker 10: When it comes to the ABC, one point three billion
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Speaker 10: dollars of our tax payers money does not buy you balance.
44:23
Speaker 10: It buys you bias. And Grace tames personal lack of
44:29
Speaker 10: balance and her incredible bias towards anything that the left
44:33
Speaker 10: believes in has been on show for years.
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Speaker 2: Peter.
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Speaker 10: It's not just her staunch pro Palestine opinions, it's also
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Speaker 10: her staunch support of Labor or the Greens or anyone
44:43
Speaker 10: on the left. I mean, she did as much damage
44:46
Speaker 10: as she possibly could to the Liberal Party when we
44:49
Speaker 10: were in government, even though she'd been given the great
44:52
Speaker 10: privilege of being appointed Australian of the Year at the time.
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Speaker 10: So this is just another absolute shocker of a decision
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Speaker 10: by the ABC. We need to change the Act so
45:02
Speaker 10: that their editorial standards are finally enforced so that they
45:06
Speaker 10: cannot keep presenting such bias to the Australian people when
45:11
Speaker 10: we are paying for that. And I think it'd be
45:15
Speaker 10: quite a great idea to actually change legislation so that
45:20
Speaker 10: every time they're not balanced, they lose funding, have none left.
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Speaker 2: I just make it. I would just make them pay
45:28
Speaker 2: for perview if you want it a tick a box
45:30
Speaker 2: on the census form. You can have the ABC and
45:33
Speaker 2: look even as a taxpayer, I'll say we'll pay for
45:36
Speaker 2: your subscription for everyone else, because no one's going to
45:38
Speaker 2: take that box. They've got an audience of about this big.
45:42
Speaker 2: We can save the money as Australians and save the bile. Jamie,
45:45
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you about Anna Cody. This is
45:48
Speaker 2: the sex discrim Commissioners. She popped up today in The Australia.
45:51
Speaker 2: She said, Oh, all that talk about trans stuff last week,
45:55
Speaker 2: that's not the real concern. She's saying. The real issue
45:58
Speaker 2: is the rising toll of violence against women and girls. Well,
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Speaker 2: she's not wrong, but let's have a definition of what
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Speaker 2: a woman and a girl is that starts with basic
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Speaker 2: biology and a Cody.
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Speaker 19: You're right, Peter, I didn't like reading that article seeing
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Speaker 19: doctor Anna Cody referring to gender based violence within it,
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Speaker 19: because there's such a serious issue. One woman every eleven
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Speaker 19: days loses her life on average at the hands of
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Speaker 19: an intimate partner. So that's an enormous issue, but it's
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Speaker 19: let's not bundle it in with defining what a woman
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Speaker 19: actually is. And this is doctor Ana Cody trying to
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Speaker 19: take the heat off how embarrassing she was last week
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Speaker 19: in the Senate where she said that a trans woman
46:40
Speaker 19: could be perceived to be pregnant. I mean, we became
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Speaker 19: a laughing stock on the worldwide stage. Twitter was blowing
46:45
Speaker 19: up with all people laughing at what Australia is and
46:48
Speaker 19: it's just a sad state of the reality here, Peter
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Speaker 19: that since twenty thirteen, after Julia Gillard made these amendments,
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Speaker 19: the biological rights of women are a rating before our eyes.
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Speaker 19: And I think it's worth noting that when Anthony Albanizi
47:03
Speaker 19: was asked on the ABC about the coalition's plan to
47:05
Speaker 19: reinstate men and women back into the Act, he then
47:09
Speaker 19: said he wasn't going to go into the culture wars.
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Speaker 19: So I think that says everything about where he believes
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Speaker 19: of what a woman is and whether they'll do anything
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Speaker 19: about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're tough on him. I sort of read it
47:21
Speaker 2: that he had an open mind to looking at the legislation. Again,
47:25
Speaker 2: I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here, let's
47:27
Speaker 2: see if he does it. But I mean, you should
47:30
Speaker 2: be able to straddle both. And certainly the draft bill
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Speaker 2: from the National Party and doesn't discriminate against trans people.
47:37
Speaker 2: It just puts women's rights back as they should be
47:41
Speaker 2: in the forefront of the act. Let's go to that
47:45
Speaker 2: Ozzie entrepreneur Nicole Michael Kong's his name. He's the founder
47:51
Speaker 2: of a group called Blockchain Sonic Labs, and he says
47:54
Speaker 2: to young OSSI, if you want to get ahead, if
47:56
Speaker 2: you want to establish a business as I did, my
47:58
Speaker 2: best advice is leave us Australia now.
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Speaker 10: Well, Peter, this is precisely what labor governments do to
48:05
Speaker 10: our economy every single time they are in power, and
48:09
Speaker 10: then the coalition has left to clean up the mess.
48:11
Speaker 10: So I just my heart breaks the young people trying
48:14
Speaker 10: to get a start in the workforce, and also for
48:16
Speaker 10: every single small business around the nation who know right
48:18
Speaker 10: now that labor is taking half of every single dollar
48:23
Speaker 10: that they own.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick, will stay with you. Farmers. We've heard today
48:28
Speaker 2: that our wheat crop is down by fifty percent because
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Speaker 2: of the fuel issue, and you and I know that's
48:34
Speaker 2: a big hit to the budget.
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Speaker 10: Look, Peter, this is devastating, but also for all of
48:39
Speaker 10: these farming families and the farming communities who are now
48:42
Speaker 10: not going to have any cash going into their local towns,
48:45
Speaker 10: let alone farmers trying to make money, and obviously food
48:49
Speaker 10: security and also the national economic impact terrible.
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Speaker 2: Hey just quickly, Jabe, you know this chatter about Paul Enhancing,
48:58
Speaker 2: could you BPM and her? The door open with Andrew
49:01
Speaker 2: Clannell on Sunday, someone said, oh, she's too old to
49:03
Speaker 2: be PM. I had to look at it. She's seventy two.
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Speaker 2: By god, she's in good nick for seventy two.
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Speaker 19: She said that no one can keep up with her,
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Speaker 19: that she's still running down the halls of Parliament House
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Speaker 19: in her high heels, and as she said that, don't
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Speaker 19: underestimate her. That she has definitely got the energy and
49:19
Speaker 19: the will to keep doing it. It is worth noting, though, Peter,
49:21
Speaker 19: that since Tony Abbott became President of the Liberal Party
49:24
Speaker 19: on the weekend, we have seen a huge surge of
49:27
Speaker 19: memberships across the country. So let's not rule out what
49:30
Speaker 19: could happen over the next two years. Unite the right,
49:32
Speaker 19: let's bring everyone together and defeat labor.
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Speaker 2: People have underestimated Tony Abbott and Pauline Hansen both and
49:40
Speaker 2: they have worn it when they've done that, So we
49:43
Speaker 2: will see Jamie absolutely. Thank you to you both, see
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Speaker 2: you tomorrow night. Everyone up next, here's Andrew