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- 0:05Speaker 1: From The Australian, here's what's on the front.
- 0:07Speaker 2: I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:08Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, August 26, 2026. The Australian's economics editor, Matthew Cranston,
- 0:16Speaker 1: scooped everyone before the federal budget and keeps breaking huge
- 0:20Speaker 1: yarns about nasty surprises you weren't supposed to know about.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Widows tax, death tax, soaring rents, crashing confidence. Now Matt's
- 0:29Speaker 1: revealing another whopper. The tax change that means super funds
- 0:33Speaker 1: will pay a higher effective tax rate on some investments.
- 0:37Speaker 1: He's here in just a moment.
- 0:43Speaker 3: It's a responsible budget and it's a reforming budget which
- 0:47Speaker 3: builds resilience and bolsters our economy.
- 0:50Speaker 2: It was already billed as once in a generation.
- 0:53Speaker 1: But it's Labor's broken promises on property taxes that could
- 0:57Speaker 1: come back to bite. Matthew Cranston is the Australian's economics editor.
- 1:02Speaker 1: And even before the May 2026 budget, if you were
- 1:05Speaker 1: reading Matt's stories, you knew what was going to happen
- 1:08Speaker 1: because he broke all the big yarns about the changes
- 1:11Speaker 1: to property taxes in particular and many other stories. Matt,
- 1:14Speaker 1: you've now broken a new story about something that was
- 1:17Speaker 1: in the budget all along that perhaps people like me
- 1:20Speaker 1: didn't quite grasp the significance of. It's about superannuation.
- 1:24Speaker 2: What does it mean?
- 1:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:25Speaker 4: I mean, it took me over an hour and a
- 1:26Speaker 4: half to work through this spreadsheet of people explaining to
- 1:29Speaker 4: me how it works as well. But yeah, over 100
- 1:32Speaker 4: days since the budget and this one little thing has
- 1:35Speaker 4: come out and it's actually a really big thing. So
- 1:38Speaker 4: everyone's got super, but how does that super make investments?
- 1:44Speaker 4: So you've got a super fund. They don't go and
- 1:46Speaker 4: buy stocks, I don't know, clicking on Comsec. They invest
- 1:51Speaker 4: in things like managed investment trusts. So- Whilst the tax
- 1:55Speaker 4: rates on superannuation have not changed, the way the effective
- 2:01Speaker 4: tax rate works in these managed investment trusts has changed.
- 2:06Speaker 4: And it's changed because of a technical thing called capital
- 2:09Speaker 4: loss ordering. So it just basically means when you make
- 2:12Speaker 4: a loss on something, you can offset it against a gain.
- 2:15Speaker 4: But now the ATO wants to say, okay, well, when
- 2:19Speaker 4: you offset that loss, you have to only do it
- 2:22Speaker 4: on these specific gains first.
- 2:24Speaker 2: So that's an ordering thing.
- 2:26Speaker 4: So what ends up happening is that the trust ends
- 2:28Speaker 4: up having a higher effective tax rate in many circumstances.
- 2:32Speaker 4: And then that means when they go to send that
- 2:35Speaker 4: money on the investment back to the super fund, it's
- 2:38Speaker 4: been hit with a higher level of tax. So therefore,
- 2:41Speaker 4: the super fund is therefore hit with a higher level
- 2:43Speaker 4: of tax. Claire, it's called an effective tax rate. And
- 2:46Speaker 4: a lot of Australians don't understand this effective tax rate
- 2:49Speaker 4: and how it works.
- 2:51Speaker 2: But it's effectively a higher tax on your super fund.
- 3:03Speaker 1: All of these things in the budget that we've learned
- 3:06Speaker 1: about since the budget was handed down, and we've learned
- 3:09Speaker 1: about them because you've broken these stories. There was a
- 3:11Speaker 1: widow's tax that the government hadn't told us about on
- 3:14Speaker 1: budget night. There was a death tax. That might be
- 3:16Speaker 1: a bit of a cheeky way to talk about it,
- 3:17Speaker 1: but it was a change to the way trusts are
- 3:19Speaker 1: managed after someone dies. Were these unintended consequences of a
- 3:25Speaker 1: big picture policy that Jim Chalmers and Anthony Albanese came
- 3:28Speaker 1: up with, or was this part of the design all
- 3:31Speaker 1: the way along and they've just been hoping nobody worked
- 3:32Speaker 1: it out?
- 3:34Speaker 4: It's a very good question. I think it's actually half
- 3:36Speaker 4: and half. I mean, even that may be the wrong answer,
- 3:39Speaker 4: but a bit of both in the sense that sometimes
- 3:42Speaker 4: when we go to follow up these stories, I get
- 3:45Speaker 4: a sense that sometimes the government and whether that's treasury
- 3:50Speaker 4: or the ATO or the treasurer's office or whatever, they
- 3:54Speaker 4: might not be across it perfectly. And I'm not having
- 3:58Speaker 4: a go, but I'm just saying that that's the sense
- 4:01Speaker 4: that we pick up on. And it's sort of like, well,
- 4:04Speaker 4: what is actually the rule here? What is actually the
- 4:08Speaker 4: way to treat this vehicle or this person or this tax?
- 4:13Speaker 4: And it takes hours to get a response. And I
- 4:17Speaker 4: think that's because either they didn't actually know or they
- 4:21Speaker 4: did know and they just didn't want to tell people.
- 4:24Speaker 1: I can imagine the dread on the faces of the
- 4:26Speaker 1: people in the treasurer's office when they see your number
- 4:28Speaker 1: on their phone. But that question of, let's say, in
- 4:31Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers' office, you might be dealing with a media
- 4:34Speaker 1: advisor or a policy advisor who might not necessarily know
- 4:37Speaker 1: the fine detail of something that you're asking about. But
- 4:40Speaker 1: the budget is worked up in the Treasury Department. Surely
- 4:43Speaker 1: somebody in Treasury knew that all these things were the
- 4:46Speaker 1: consequence of.
- 4:46Speaker 2: 100%.
- 4:47Speaker 4: And look, just with this super story today, it took
- 4:50Speaker 4: hours and hours and hours for them just to come
- 4:53Speaker 4: back after a question of, do MITs, do managed investment trusts,
- 4:59Speaker 4: are they now subject to this new capital loss ordering?
- 5:03Speaker 2: Hours and hours and hours and hours to get a response.
- 5:06Speaker 2: And then when I did get a response, there wasn't
- 5:09Speaker 2: an answer to that question.
- 5:10Speaker 4: It was, we're doing consultation on it.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Now, is that because they didn't know?
- 5:16Speaker 4: And I suspect, and I've been told because people have
- 5:20Speaker 4: spoken to them, said that they confirmed, yes, they are
- 5:24Speaker 4: subject to the new capital loss ordering rules. And that's
- 5:26Speaker 4: what I put in my story is that they had
- 5:28Speaker 4: confirmed it to other people that this is the case.
- 5:30Speaker 4: So they don't confirm it to me, but they confirm
- 5:34Speaker 4: it to other people. And that's the difficulty of being
- 5:36Speaker 4: a journalist is you don't get clear answers. But if
- 5:40Speaker 4: they did know that, then is that their modus operandi?
- 5:44Speaker 4: Is that, are they actually trying to change all the
- 5:48Speaker 4: effective tax rates, not just the headline? So we've had
- 5:51Speaker 4: this headline of the CGT and negative gearing, and that's
- 5:55Speaker 4: all very clear what's happening there. But then how does
- 5:58Speaker 4: that affect all these other investments? And how does it
- 6:01Speaker 4: change the effective tax rates on things? And maybe they
- 6:05Speaker 4: do know that impact very much. And they're thinking, aren't
- 6:08Speaker 4: we smart? We've now been able to raise more tax
- 6:12Speaker 4: because the effective tax rates are affecting all sorts of
- 6:15Speaker 4: other investments. And that's a great way to help the
- 6:19Speaker 4: Labor government raise a net $ 77 billion from these tax changes.
- 6:30Speaker 1: There's an ideological component, of course, to the big changes
- 6:34Speaker 1: in the budget, the capital gains tax and negative gearing.
- 6:36Speaker 1: These are things that, at Jim Chalmers' heart, I'm sure
- 6:39Speaker 1: he wanted to achieve as Treasurer. We've always heard that
- 6:42Speaker 1: he wanted to be a Treasurer who did things, who
- 6:44Speaker 1: made big changes.
- 6:47Speaker 3: Speaker, this is the most important and ambitious budget in decades.
- 6:52Speaker 3: Important because the world is throwing a lot at us.
- 6:56Speaker 1: But we're still talking about the budget. It's now late August. It's,
- 6:59Speaker 1: as you say, more than 100 days old now. I'm
- 7:02Speaker 1: hearing from kind of senior people in Labor that it's
- 7:05Speaker 1: going to be OK. The election's a long way away.
- 7:07Speaker 2: This will ease.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Matt Cranston, we'll move on to something else. But then
- 7:12Speaker 1: you get the sense from people who are perhaps a
- 7:14Speaker 1: little bit more exposed to voter sentiment, like backbenchers, that
- 7:17Speaker 1: they're not happy about this at all, that they're starting
- 7:20Speaker 1: to panic.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I think on the one hand, the tax changes,
- 7:25Speaker 4: different tax changes come in at different times. And the
- 7:30Speaker 4: July 1 start date to the changes in the 50%
- 7:33Speaker 4: discount removal for CGT, the impact of that, you won't
- 7:38Speaker 4: actually see the actual, actual, actual impact of it until
- 7:42Speaker 4: late 2028 after the next election, right? So that's a
- 7:48Speaker 4: big thing because if you don't know how much you're
- 7:50Speaker 4: actually going to be hit, then you might be relaxed
- 7:54Speaker 4: and that could be helpful for the Labor government. They
- 7:57Speaker 4: will obviously have to deal with the broken promise politics
- 8:00Speaker 4: around all that sort of thing. But then the antithesis
- 8:03Speaker 4: to that is that over the next 12 months, as
- 8:07Speaker 4: people prepare for that change, accountants are going to slowly
- 8:11Speaker 4: start to tell all their clients and people are going
- 8:14Speaker 4: to be informed of what they are likely to be
- 8:18Speaker 4: hit with. So not what the actual is, but what
- 8:21Speaker 4: they're likely to be hit with. Might they need to
- 8:23Speaker 4: restructure from a trust into a company? Might they need
- 8:26Speaker 4: to think about whether or not they are going to
- 8:28Speaker 4: buy that new product and negatively gear it? Because once
- 8:31Speaker 4: they buy a new product and negatively gear it, they
- 8:34Speaker 4: can't then sell it to someone who wants to negatively
- 8:36Speaker 4: gear it because it's then.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Existing, not new. So there's all these little things that
- 8:40Speaker 2: people are going to start.
- 8:41Speaker 4: To wake up to, and that may actually do harm
- 8:45Speaker 4: to Labor, because there might be more and more people
- 8:48Speaker 4: learning about what these tax changes do.
- 9:00Speaker 2: We try and do.
- 9:01Speaker 4: A good job of explaining all these things to inform people,
- 9:05Speaker 4: but not every journalist is out looking at effective tax rates.
- 9:09Speaker 2: And people sort of don't understand it.
- 9:11Speaker 4: So we're hearing also, and we wrote a story about
- 9:14Speaker 4: this recently, that constituents are complaining to their MPs about
- 9:19Speaker 4: how it affects them as they slowly start to find
- 9:22Speaker 4: out about it. I intercepted an email or I received,
- 9:26Speaker 4: I don't know what the verb is for that, but
- 9:28Speaker 4: I got an email that showed that a Labor backbencher,
- 9:32Speaker 4: Claire Clatterham, actually responding to a constituent who was concerned
- 9:36Speaker 4: about the breadth of the CGT application. And she said
- 9:41Speaker 4: that she agreed with that constituent saying that whilst it
- 9:45Speaker 4: was good to have a tax change on property investments
- 9:48Speaker 4: and the concessions around that, that she didn't agree that
- 9:52Speaker 4: it should be used across all assets. Now, that's an
- 9:55Speaker 4: amazing thing to come from inside labor. And then since
- 9:58Speaker 4: that time that we wrote that, story, there's been almost
- 10:01Speaker 4: a shutdown on the way Labor politicians respond to constituents.
- 10:07Speaker 4: So I think that's actually a problem because if you
- 10:11Speaker 4: don't respond, the concerns and the complaints gets pent up.
- 10:14Speaker 4: So that might do harm to Labor as well. I'm
- 10:17Speaker 4: not going to pretend I know how this is going
- 10:20Speaker 4: to play out. They're just some options of how it
- 10:23Speaker 4: may play out.
- 10:25Speaker 1: It's partly about the opposition being able or opposition figures
- 10:29Speaker 1: being able to turn this into retail politics as well,
- 10:32Speaker 1: isn't it? I remember when the franking credits policy was
- 10:35Speaker 1: put up by Bill Shorten and he was seeming to
- 10:37Speaker 1: be cruising into the lodge and then the opposition.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Said pension tax. Yeah, that's right. And that became what
- 10:42Speaker 2: the election was about.
- 10:44Speaker 3: We've come to meet the people that Bill Shorten wants
- 10:47Speaker 3: to rock.
- 10:49Speaker 1: So if the opposition isn't able to crystallise it, and
- 10:51Speaker 1: this comes back to the point about complexity, doesn't it?
- 10:54Speaker 4: Yes.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Will they survive it?
- 10:55Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I tried to explain it and I'll
- 10:58Speaker 4: show as much humility as I can. I don't think
- 11:00Speaker 4: many people who didn't know about it any more clearer
- 11:03Speaker 4: after my attempted explanation of.
- 11:06Speaker 2: This super tax thing.
- 11:08Speaker 4: But I gather they sense they should probably check it
- 11:11Speaker 4: for themselves. And if you're not doing that, then in
- 11:15Speaker 4: the words of Kerry Packer, you need your head read, right?
- 11:17Speaker 4: If you're not trying to minimize your tax and to
- 11:21Speaker 4: think about how the government, which will be the highest
- 11:24Speaker 4: income taxing government in history this year, if you're not
- 11:28Speaker 4: thinking about that, then you need to.
- 11:30Speaker 2: You have to. You should. And this is what our
- 11:32Speaker 2: paper is.
- 11:34Speaker 4: We're getting more and more value, more and more readers
- 11:36Speaker 4: to our newspaper because this is what people are thinking.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, I should know about this stuff.
- 11:46Speaker 1: Coming up, the big tax changes nobody's talking about. One
- 12:02Speaker 1: of the scoops you broke before Budget Night was about
- 12:04Speaker 1: the working Australians tax offset, the WADO, as our friend
- 12:08Speaker 1: Jeff Chambers calls it.
- 12:09Speaker 2: I love it. I think there was an Australian cricketer
- 12:10Speaker 2: who had that nickname.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Yeah, there should be if there wasn't. That's a rebate
- 12:15Speaker 1: on their income tax that Australians will get, $ 250. But
- 12:18Speaker 1: I have never heard anyone go, oh, well, never mind.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Don't worry about the widow's tax. We're getting the waddo.
- 12:24Speaker 1: So what was the point of that? It's cost the
- 12:26Speaker 1: government a fortune or will cost the government a fortune.
- 12:28Speaker 2: It's interesting.
- 12:30Speaker 4: It's a new architecture, if I can say that very
- 12:32Speaker 4: wonky word. Treasury have got this new architecture where they
- 12:35Speaker 4: can say, well, our principle is that we want to
- 12:40Speaker 4: divide up between how we tax labor income and how
- 12:46Speaker 4: we tax capital income. And they never really had a strong,
- 12:51Speaker 4: effective way of doing that.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Now they do.
- 12:53Speaker 4: They've got this architecture now where they can say, well, look,
- 12:56Speaker 4: we can start giving more back to people who only
- 12:59Speaker 4: ever make money from their hands and they're working, that
- 13:03Speaker 4: sort of thing. And we can level up, is what
- 13:07Speaker 4: they say. And there's a whole big debate among economists
- 13:11Speaker 4: about whether or not The tax treatment of capital and
- 13:14Speaker 4: the tax treatment of labor income should be the same.
- 13:17Speaker 2: So if you've got a job, we like you.
- 13:19Speaker 1: If you're earning your money from sort of nefarious things
- 13:21Speaker 1: like trusts, you know, we're going to punish you.
- 13:23Speaker 4: Or shares or property or anything that you take a
- 13:27Speaker 4: risk and invest in or a small business. If you
- 13:30Speaker 4: go and use your residential premises to get the equity
- 13:34Speaker 4: to put into a small business, that's going to get
- 13:36Speaker 4: taxed differently. And so people need to sort of work out, well,
- 13:40Speaker 4: how do they feel about that? How do they genuinely
- 13:43Speaker 4: feel about that? And then maybe they can think, well,
- 13:46Speaker 4: is this the right thing to be doing? And the
- 13:48Speaker 4: Watto also allows them to make an announcement every year
- 13:52Speaker 4: that we're giving you more money back.
- 13:55Speaker 3: We will put more money into the pockets of 13.3
- 13:59Speaker 3: million workers with a new $ 250 Working Australians tax offset.
- 14:06Speaker 4: But, you know, in saying that, Claire, a lot of
- 14:08Speaker 4: people might say, well, You know, the water, I don't
- 14:10Speaker 4: even know what that is, but yeah, okay, when it
- 14:12Speaker 4: comes to budget time or even election time, I'll remember it,
- 14:16Speaker 4: and that's nice because it's the government giving me back money.
- 14:19Speaker 2: But there's a thing called bracket creep, right?
- 14:21Speaker 4: And that is when your salary or your earnings move
- 14:24Speaker 4: up into a new threshold, you get taxed more. And
- 14:27Speaker 4: the coalition have actually got a policy to stop that
- 14:30Speaker 4: from happening, but you wouldn't sort of know about it.
- 14:33Speaker 4: I mean, it's the biggest ticket, one of their biggest
- 14:36Speaker 4: items in their policies in terms of expense. And it's
- 14:39Speaker 4: their way of challenging Watto because it's saying, well, we
- 14:43Speaker 4: don't need to give you.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Your money back.
- 14:45Speaker 4: We just won't take it from you in the beginning
- 14:48Speaker 4: through this bracket creep and higher taxes. But I don't
- 14:52Speaker 4: think the sell on that has been effective.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Matt Cranston, thank you very much.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Pleasure, Claire.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Matthew Cranston is The Australian's economics editor. Our subscribers get
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