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- 0:00There's been media speculation lately that Alex Bowman could
- 0:03lose his ride in the 48 car for 2025, maybe even being replaced
- 0:08by Kyle Busch. Bowman addressed those rumors at
- 0:11NASCAR Playoff media day. What's happening next year?
- 0:14Do you know your plans for 2025? Yeah, yeah, that rumor has has
- 0:20certainly been annoying. Definitely.
- 0:25Obviously my contract's through the end of 26 and all I can tell
- 0:29you is like what my bosses have told me and that that's there's
- 0:33there's no plans to change anything.
- 0:35And yeah, rumors are are just rumors.
- 0:38So hopefully they'll get their announcements done.
- 0:41So my rumors stop obviously. And yeah, as far as I know, I'm
- 0:46driving the 48 next year and nothing's changing and.
- 0:49There's no reason that you should doubt that.
- 0:51And you know, you feel. Yeah, yeah, I don't think so.
- 0:54You know, I trust, I trust my bosses and and that's what
- 0:58they've told me. So yeah, other than that, just
- 1:01focus on trying to be strong the next 10 weeks.
- 1:03Are there any questions about if you have to do something over
- 1:05the next 10 weeks? It just seems unfair right
- 1:07before the playoffs, you know, you're, you're going through
- 1:10this or. If that's the perception and no,
- 1:14there's none of that, right? Like I, every conversation I've
- 1:17had with my bosses is it's it's unfortunate rumors and it's like
- 1:21rumors that we're really not even a part of, which makes it
- 1:23it difficult, right? Like I don't think there's
- 1:27there's any plans or anything on on the HMS side.
- 1:29And I think the rumors have started on the other side of
- 1:32things. So hopefully when they get their
- 1:35announcement on, on what the other side is doing right of
- 1:38that rumor, then it'll kind of go away for me for sure.
- 1:44You had to deal with a lot this year even in the past.
- 1:49I mean, is it just another case or is it, I mean, I when you
- 1:55have to live with that and fair or not fair, that's just how do
- 2:00you, how do you deal with that? Yeah, I mean, for me certainly.
- 2:06Like that's a rumor that I've heard for a month, right.
- 2:09And I got to the point where I picked up the phone and, and
- 2:13called everybody and everybody said absolutely not.
- 2:15So that's really all I have to go on.
- 2:18And I don't have a reason to believe anything other than
- 2:20that. There's no, oh, you need to do
- 2:22this to keep your job. Like it's absolutely not.
- 2:25Everything's fine. So beyond that, like we need to
- 2:29go run better. It's been a miserable month and
- 2:31we haven't executed on a high level at all.
- 2:33So we need to, to go run better the next 10 weeks.
- 2:36But we need to do that for, for us and our playoff run and, and
- 2:40for Ally and, and the 48 car. There's no like you need to do
- 2:44this to to keep your job as as far as I know, I'm not.
- 2:48I'm not worried about that is all at all.
- 2:50How, how does one turn things around?
- 2:54You know, look, start of the playoff service says, hey, it's
- 2:57it's a new new season. Just because it's a new season
- 3:00doesn't mean the same things aren't following you.
- 3:02Or can you know how? How do you break that chain?
- 3:06I feel like we've been able to do that in the past and
- 3:09honestly, a month ago everything was going pretty well, right?
- 3:13And you know, we had big crash at Indy, crash at Daytona.
- 3:19Obviously we had some issues this weekend.
- 3:21So it's been frustrating. But we've we've had some fast
- 3:25race cars sprinkled in there. Obviously we crashed at Michigan
- 3:27with another fast race cars. So we just need to, to execute
- 3:32at a high level in the next, the next 10 weeks.
- 3:34And yeah, just need to buy in and and kind of have the whole
- 3:39team lock in and and execute well.
- 3:42With the with the playoffs, obviously there's a process that
- 3:45you go through throughout each week of the season and in living
- 3:49your life and doing things. When you get into the playoffs,
- 3:52is there something that you cut out or is there something that
- 3:55you make sure to keep the part of because of the potential
- 3:58stress and everything for 10 long weeks?
- 4:03Yeah, I don't think you can change much.
- 4:04I, I think you kind of have to, the way our sport works, you
- 4:07have to kind of live the whole year that way.
- 4:10So certainly working super hard and, and kind of trying to do
- 4:16everything that I possibly can, but I feel like sometimes you do
- 4:19that and almost get worse. So just got to go do my thing
- 4:23and and go from there. So what what's the what's the
- 4:26stress reliever then for this part?
- 4:29There isn't 1 during the cup season anymore for sure.
- 4:33I think every week is is so tough and the way the races go
- 4:38like it's there's there's no getting away from the stress of
- 4:40the steal for me at least. So yeah, I just need to go go
- 4:44execute winning, relieve some stress for sure.
- 4:47What's the saying that Blake says you've heard from Blake
- 4:50often? That is just kind of the one
- 4:53that he repeats or one that makes you laugh or more than
- 4:56makes you roll your eyes because you hear it so often.
- 4:58But it's something that he often says.
- 5:00I don't really have a saying like that from him, but I think
- 5:05for me really just, you know, things were tough the start of
- 5:08the year and talking to him, he's like you and I are the only
- 5:12two that can fix it. So, you know, he's, he said that
- 5:16and then he brought it up again this week.
- 5:18So I think you know, just him and I are responsible for for
- 5:23how that team is going to execute for the next 10 weeks
- 5:26and need those guys to lock in and and and be all in for the
- 5:30next 10 weeks for sure. Some might view you guys as a
- 5:33underdog or potential Cinderella.
- 5:35Is that a way that you would look at it or is that the wrong
- 5:39way to look at it from your vantage point?
- 5:42Because of you've won races, you're with the team that's won
- 5:45races, yeah. Yeah.
- 5:47I mean, I think like we need to improve where we're at for sure
- 5:52haven't been where we need to be for the last little bit.
- 5:56Our season's kind of been broken up into, you know, streaks of
- 5:59really good runs and then streaks of really bad runs.
- 6:02So I think if if we can get the streak of really good runs to to
- 6:06fall well for the next 10 weeks, I think we can be in a a really
- 6:10good spot. But yeah, I mean, I think
- 6:14there's no reason why why we're not capable of doing that.
- 6:17We just need things to go our way and and need to put our best
- 6:20foot forward. Yes and no.
- 6:34I think for for Rick and and Mrs. H and everybody at Hendrick
- 6:40Motorsports, you know, I think it means a lot to them.
- 6:43For me as a selfish race car driver, I just want to go win
- 6:46races every week, right. I don't think there's anybody on
- 6:50the outside that's going to put more pressure on me than I put
- 6:52on myself to perform each and every week and and to do my job.
- 6:55So yeah, I mean, maybe you want it a little more for them, but
- 7:03as a driver I probably want it more for myself.
- 7:11I think the Speedway stuff obviously can be a big wild
- 7:14card. Watkins Glen's been pretty hard
- 7:17on us over the years, so we're super focused on being better
- 7:20there. But beyond that, you know, if we
- 7:24get rolling in the right direction, we can be good
- 7:25anywhere. Beginning of the season,
- 7:28everybody's talking about, hey, we're going to make the
- 7:30playoffs. Yep, now you're here.
- 7:31Yep. And, you know, So what are the
- 7:34odds of you getting to Phoenix and, and you know, compete for
- 7:37this thing? Yeah.
- 7:39I mean, we need to, we need to improve what we've been doing,
- 7:42how we've been executing to make that happen.
- 7:45And, and I think we're capable and have the resources that we
- 7:47need to do that. It's just a matter of going and
- 7:50doing it. So yeah, Mr. H gives us the
- 7:53tools we need, so we got to go make it happen.
- 7:55When you're looking and breaking down the the playoff segments
- 7:59and stages or whatever we're calling them, the the first
- 8:01round that has a lot of drivers concern.
- 8:05It seems to be one of the the toughest or one of the most coin
- 8:09flippish rounds. Is that what you think or you
- 8:11are there? Is there another round that
- 8:12you're? You're worried about honestly,
- 8:16I'm so week to week, I don't even know what the next tracks
- 8:18are after the first round. So super focused on on that
- 8:22round and obviously, yeah, I think you know, Atlanta, walk
- 8:26into the line in Bristol, there's so many things that can
- 8:28happen. Pretty easy to have somebody
- 8:31else during your day at that two of those 3.
- 8:33So yeah, I just need to to go execute at a high level and and
- 8:37go week to week from there. You guys were given kind of an
- 8:39edict of they wanted to think it was Missus H since you wanted
- 8:43all four cars in the in the. Yeah, she wants that every year,
- 8:47but she made it very clear that, Oh no, now I'm dropping the
- 8:50microphone. She made it very clear that that
- 8:53we better make it happen. I think she said she really,
- 8:55really, really, really wants that.
- 8:58So yeah, when when she speaks, we listen for sure.
- 9:03How would you? Characterize your regular
- 9:05season. I mean, I think the Chicago
- 9:06wind. Being a highlight?
- 9:08Yeah, kind. Of gone in waves.
- 9:09Though, you know, absolutely. So yeah, I mean it's been up and
- 9:12down right like we've had streaks of really good runs and
- 9:16the last month we've kind of repeatedly been kicked in the
- 9:18teeth. So excited to get the playoffs
- 9:21started. You know, we're we're plenty
- 9:24capable race team. We just need to go out and do it
- 9:26do. You look at it as a blank slate,
- 9:28fresh slate. A little bit, you know, it would
- 9:30have been nice to carry some positive momentum.
- 9:32And then I feel like the first half of the summer, we had a
- 9:35better summer than normal and then the second-half of the
- 9:37summer the wheels fell off. So definitely a little bit of a
- 9:41blank slate, but we'll see what happens.
- 9:49Yeah. I mean, it's gotten crazy over
- 9:52the last couple years for sure. I'm, I think if we raced now or
- 9:56if we if we race 10 years ago, how we do now, we would get out
- 10:00of the car and get our ass kicked.
- 10:02So it's changed a lot, right? And, and it's changed for
- 10:06everybody. And I feel like I'm not the the
- 10:10overly aggressive dirty race car driver and the races have played
- 10:15out to really benefit the overly aggressive dirty race car
- 10:18drivers. So trying to get myself there
- 10:20for sure. And and yeah, it's definitely
- 10:24changed. Is that that?
- 10:25Because of the. Current car.
- 10:27Yeah, I think passing has just become so ridiculously difficult
- 10:33that you have to get what you can, and ruining somebody else's
- 10:38day to do it or whatever you need to do has just become part
- 10:41of it. And yeah, it's just changed.
- 10:42Thank you. How do you think history will
- 10:44look back? On this arrow.
- 10:51Shoot, I feel like it's only going One Direction, right?
- 10:53It's only going to continue to to get more aggressive.
- 10:56So it'll be interesting. It's hard to imagine it being
- 10:58more aggressive than it is now, but could happen for sure.
- 11:01Now you and Blake had. Stretches of really, really good
- 11:04portions of. Seasons, yeah.
- 11:07Are you feeling confident? That.
- 11:09You guys are going? To hit that.
- 11:10When you get the playoffs. Now we better right like I, I
- 11:13think, you know, the last month has been frustrating and you
- 11:18know, we're, we're planning capable race team.
- 11:20So we need to to go run well for the next 10 weeks and I feel
- 11:24like we're we're planning capable of doing that.
- 11:26Is there anything? In particular, you've done
- 11:28Behind the Wheel last month. That's.
- 11:29Led to it or. Do you think it's just a Yeah, I
- 11:33mean really the I spent on Pit Rd. at Richmond and that hurt us
- 11:36a little bit, but we weren't any good before that and got loose
- 11:41and smoked fence on that, that restart at Michigan, which cost
- 11:44us a top 8 finish. But other than that we just
- 11:48haven't been very good, honestly.
- 11:50So super frustrating to not be better than we've been.
- 11:53But we'll keep digging at it. Do you think?
- 11:54Do you think it could? Be the stealth that people you
- 12:00know don't see it coming as much as they do some other of the
- 12:04playoff contenders. And yeah, because.
- 12:07If I'm you, I'm thinking I'm on a surprise.
- 12:11There, Yeah. I mean, I don't think, I mean,
- 12:14maybe from the outside it looks like that matters, but I like
- 12:18we're all racing each other as hard as we possibly can.
- 12:21So there's not really like a surprise factor that's going to
- 12:23benefit anybody. But for me, yeah, hopefully,
- 12:27hopefully we run really well during the playoffs and can
- 12:30prove some people wrong. So you don't think anybody's got
- 12:32anything extra left as you go into Atlanta?
- 12:36Yeah, I mean, gosh, obviously we're all going to try to have
- 12:41extra and try to raise the bar. But you know, the way these
- 12:46teams operate, there's, there's not much left to grasp at.
- 12:50So we're all going to work super hard and and be bought in.
- 12:53But at the same time, we do that all year, so it'll be
- 12:57interesting last. Thing do do you ever then sit
- 12:59back and say, good Lord, we're giving it everything we have and
- 13:02search yourself for that, whatever that you think maybe
- 13:05doesn't even exist, right? Yeah, for sure.
- 13:07I mean, I think at times it feels like the harder you work,
- 13:10the worse things go for you. So yeah, just we're all in.
- 13:12For sure. Pushed your teammate William to
- 13:15the Wyndham Dayton 500 and you're reminded of that.
- 13:22Yeah. Going to Atlanta, Yeah.
- 13:24I mean, Atlanta's such a different beast than the
- 13:29Daytona. I've dropped that thing like
- 13:30three Times Now. Then the Daytona 500.
- 13:33Now I drop what I drop. Now you're throwing your phone.
- 13:37This is a real 48 team special going on right now.
- 13:41We got shit everywhere. Yeah, Atlanta's just different
- 13:47than Daytona, right? Like we, it's not going to be,
- 13:52you know, Daytona, Talladega, you see that manufacturers work
- 13:54together so much and, and kind of dictate how that race falls.
- 13:57And there's a lot less of that at Atlanta.
- 14:00So it'd be nice if he'd pushed me to the wind.
- 14:02But I I would, I would say that if you ask him who pushed him
- 14:09the most in that race, he'd probably, he's probably
- 14:10forgotten by now. So that's just how the sport
- 14:13goes. Yeah.
- 14:23What else we got? Oh, sweet.
- 14:27I'm going to hang out. I'm going to bid up this
- 14:29Volkswagen. Oh, shit.
- 14:42No hard hitting questions. Who the fuck is Brad Griffin?
- 14:56Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
- 15:04He knows more about my life than I know about my life.
- 15:08Yeah, yeah. I, I don't, I don't go on
- 15:17Twitter. I, I stay off the Internet,
- 15:19except it like bring a, I'll go and bring a trailer.
- 15:22But the Internet, the rest of the Internet, it's a car auction
- 15:26website. Yeah, yeah.
- 15:27Suarez is trying to buy a Volkswagen here later today, So
- 15:31I'm a bit his ass up. Make him pay too much money.
- 15:34Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then if I end up with it,
- 15:38I'm going to be really sad. But yeah, yeah, yeah, that that
- 15:46would be a large part I'd, I'd still make him buy it for me
- 15:49somehow. I just park it at his house.
- 15:52Yeah. With a, with a bill on the top,
- 15:55you know, an invoice. Yep, Yep.
- 16:02Yeah, for sure. How can you guys do that?
- 16:13Is it just getting the finishes or is there is there some?
- 16:19Execution in there as well for any better cars.
- 16:20Yeah, both for sure. Like we haven't been very good
- 16:22lately. Yeah, we need to qualify better.
- 16:26We need to execute better when I need to do everything on my end
- 16:30better. We need to be better on pit Rd.
- 16:31Like across the board. We we need to be better.
- 16:33So yeah, I made a couple mistakes in the last couple
- 16:37weeks spent on Pit Rd. at Richmond, crashed at Michigan,
- 16:41and then we've had some cars that we've struggled with and
- 16:43and some things on Pit Rd. happen kind of across the board.
- 16:47We need to be better. So 10 weeks ago, prove we can be
- 16:51better. Yeah, the Watkins Glen thing is
- 17:08interesting because they said it was 6 seconds and then they
- 17:12tested again last week and it. Yeah, I heard two.
- 17:16So yeah, yeah, I heard much less than we thought, but it'll be
- 17:23interesting to see what actually happens.
- 17:25I feel like we kind of never know.
- 17:26And then and then Bristol, is the same thing going to happen?
- 17:28Is it not going to happen? So yeah, it's going to be
- 17:30interesting. Atlanta, it's its own thing.
- 17:31Let's see what happens. So it seems like the first 2
- 17:33instead of instead of that middle round, that second round
- 17:34being a. Wild language.
- 17:36Talidated. It seems like.
- 17:41Potentially we could have the 1st 2:00.
- 17:43Yeah, yeah, absolutely, for sure.
- 17:48Discussed getting through round one.
- 17:51Go execute it at a high level every week.
- 17:53I mean, that's all. That's really all we can do.
- 17:55Obviously Atlanta, a lot of things outside of our control
- 17:57can happen, but we need to do our job at a high level, bring
- 18:01fast race cars, run up front, score stage points and make make
- 18:06the right decisions on the racetrack Do.
- 18:07You anticipate 54 lead changes again at Bristol.
- 18:10I mean, it was the unknown there was just absolutely nuts.
- 18:14It wasn't what anyone was expecting.
- 18:16Crew chiefs, you know, engineers, they look at numbers
- 18:20and when it baffles their mind, then everything's up in the air.
- 18:24Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if the tire wears like that
- 18:27again, right? Like it's going to be a lot
- 18:29hotter. Racetrack will probably rubber
- 18:31up more but we don't we don't really know until we go do it,
- 18:36especially with the concrete racetrack.
- 18:38They can change and the weather can change can go one way or the
- 18:42other. Not having the sun on it because
- 18:43it's going to be a night race. I mean it'll be warm but no sun.
- 18:46So yeah hard to say what it's going to do I I think it it has
- 18:52the potential to be absolutely as wild as it was the first time
- 18:56and then it also has the potential to be a completely
- 18:57normal Bristol race. So we'll, I, I'm sure we'll find
- 19:03out within the 1st 100 laps of the race, but until then I don't
- 19:06think we're going to know what. Makes Hendrick Motorsports so
- 19:09good at. Watkins Glen, yeah, I feel like
- 19:13I've been terrible there. So hard to hard to say.
- 19:16I feel like that's the one Rd. course that I've still kind of
- 19:19got to get a hold of a little bit.
- 19:21But I think it started with, you know, obviously Hendrick
- 19:25Motorsports on road courses has been really good for a long
- 19:28time, but Chase really got a hold of Watkins Glen and kind of
- 19:31developed all our stuff to be really good there kind of right
- 19:34off the bat. So yeah, trying to play catch up
- 19:37a little bit, but I'm excited to get there.
- 19:39How does that track react? We weren't there in 20-20, but
- 19:43how does that track react with the next Gen. car compared to
- 19:47the previous car? And is there anything that you
- 19:50had to relearn going to the Glen because of it?
- 19:53Yeah, it's just gotten really hard to pass with with this car.
- 19:56So strategy and track positions become more and more important.
- 20:00Obviously you see everybody pushing the fuel mileage the
- 20:03most they can to to try to play the track position game.
- 20:06And yeah, it's just made all that stuff more important, made
- 20:10qualifying more important. So yeah, excited to get there
- 20:14and have another shot at it. They're saying what for a second
- 20:18fall off in the tires and you know, the new curves you had in
- 20:21the carousel. I mean, it's going to have a
- 20:24different complexion ultimately. Yeah, it'll be interesting to
- 20:27see if there really is that much fall off.
- 20:29I think the will force test had a little bit less than they
- 20:32expected. There was a ton at the test
- 20:34before that and not a lot of the will force test.
- 20:36So interesting to see what's actually going to happen.
- 20:40And yeah, the the curbs and where they put the divots in the
- 20:44racetrack and trying to disparage everybody running way
- 20:48off of turn 1 and all that. It'll it'll be interesting to
- 20:50see what actually happens. You know, I think the will force
- 20:55test some of the guys still ran way off the racetrack.
- 20:56Some of the guys didn't. So yeah, I don't really know
- 21:00until we get there. I feel like the fall off stuff
- 21:12helps passing right. So that would help making passes
- 21:16and and guys slow now being able to take care of your tires a
- 21:18little bit, which has always been something that's in my
- 21:21wheelhouse and has has helped me.
- 21:22But yeah, beyond that, it's just hard to say till we actually go
- 21:27do it. Yeah, I just have an
- 21:33understanding of what the fall off is actually going to be, how
- 21:36the race tracks going to evolve if the divots actually affect
- 21:39the race car on on the exit of of one in the carousel and then
- 21:43how to get through a kind of new bus stop.
- 21:45I think it's going to be really crucial.
- 21:55Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that.
- 22:03The first round, it's easy to get caught up in somebody else's
- 22:07mess. So trying to avoid that and and
- 22:09execute at a high level. And from there, you just have to
- 22:12get more aggressive. So looking forward to hopefully
- 22:15making it all the way through. Did the confidence at this
- 22:18winning the street course give you confidence in those style of
- 22:21tracks where you do turn left and right overall?
- 22:25Yeah, I mean, we've been really good on road courses the last
- 22:27couple years. Obviously CODA and the Rowville
- 22:31have probably been the the two best.
- 22:32But you know, Sonoma, we've had good runs, never had a good
- 22:36finish. We've had a lot of a lot of
- 22:38stuff happened to us there. Watkins Glen's always been the
- 22:42one that like I struggled to just make pure pace at.
- 22:44So trying to really focus on on getting better there.
- 22:48But you know, I wasn't good at CODA the first year and I wasn't
- 22:52great at at Chicago the first year and focused on him and and
- 22:55got better. So, you know, no reason we can't
- 22:58do that. I was glad to.
- 23:00How did being the wheel force guy for a while help you become
- 23:05a better driver? I would have, I would be a
- 23:10better race car driver right now if I raced full time for those
- 23:13two years then then if I didn't for sure, I think 2 years
- 23:17basically sitting on the couch is not beneficial for anybody.
- 23:22But staying in the car in 2017 a little bit and doing all those
- 23:26tests was was better than sitting on the couch.
- 23:28So racing would have been better, but we didn't race, so
- 23:33it was the next best thing. But did you learn something from
- 23:36working with the engineers, from seeing it at that side of the
- 23:39sport that could help you down the?
- 23:42Road a little bit like I spent a lot of time in the same and and
- 23:45developed a lot of good relationships with those guys.
- 23:47But the will force stuff is really more about, you know,
- 23:52just driving the car in a really consistent way to give those
- 23:55guys the best data that you that you can.
- 23:57So way different than just going out and running 10 tenths and
- 24:02try to make the best pace you can.
- 24:06But at the same time, I'm sure there were a couple things that
- 24:09I learned you. Feel 100% now.
- 24:12Yeah, yeah, I feel really good. So training super hard, working
- 24:16really hard and I feel like personally, I'm in a a really,
- 24:19really good place to to do the best job.
- 24:21I came for the next 10 weeks. Anything's possible, right?
- 24:39Like it can absolutely happen. It's maybe gotten a little bit
- 24:45harder with how the racing's gotten with the next Gen. car,
- 24:48but certainly possible. Yeah, I mean, little changes
- 24:59like the with the old car, gosh Dang it, this thing again.
- 25:04I dropped it eight times with the the old car, like the
- 25:09separation of the field was way bigger than it is with the new
- 25:13car. Like we all pretty much run the
- 25:16same speed these days. So yeah, it it probably makes it
- 25:20a little more difficult. Last last one for me, Bell
- 25:25couldn't believe that he finished in the top ten last
- 25:28three starts at at Watkins Glen. Larson, he's won two.
- 25:32Sorry, he he's won a couple of races.
- 25:36The dirt guys, you know, you kind of learn coming up, see
- 25:39your pants, your butt tells you a whole lot of what's going on
- 25:42when you're going left and right like that.
- 25:44I have to feel like coming from that background is beneficial.
- 25:48Yeah, for sure. I certainly come from less of
- 25:51that background than than those two guys do.
- 25:53Like I ran the pavement open wall stuff a lot more.
- 25:57But at the same time, you know, having some of that experience,
- 26:00I think it is good. So yeah, I mean Watkins Glen is
- 26:04just always been really difficult for me to just go out
- 26:08and make lap time. So I've always been like 11th or
- 26:1314th on lap time, but we need to be like 3rd to 1st on lap time.
- 26:18So just need to go out and and be better.
- 26:21So if you get to the round of 12, you definitely see a path.
- 26:25I think so, for sure. I mean, I think where we're at
- 26:27now, we see a path, so we just have to go do it.
- 26:31Thank you. Yep, good.
- 26:32Luck. Thanks.