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INSIDE TIGER WOODS' LUX SWISS REHAB · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Tiger Woods arrest. The golf
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Speaker 1: champion arrested after a quote rollover, flipping his suv trying
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Speaker 1: to overtake a truck and a trailer hooked to it
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Speaker 1: at a high rate of speed. But in the last
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Speaker 1: days we learn about what's going on inside Tiger Woods's
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Speaker 1: ninety day rehab in Switzerland at a high end private
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Speaker 1: rehab facility in Zurich. Let's just say he ain't eating
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Speaker 1: Beanie Weenie for lunch. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us. Listen.
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Speaker 1: I have dealt with so many people struggling with alcohol
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Speaker 1: and drug abuse. I wish all the best for Tiger Woods.
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Speaker 1: That said, he barely escaped jail after one of many
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Speaker 1: many driving let me say in fractions, many of them crashes,
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Speaker 1: one nearly causing the amputation of his leg. Now he
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Speaker 1: is in a high end luxury rehab in Switzerland. This
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Speaker 1: is why, straight out to Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter,
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Speaker 1: what this time.
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Speaker 2: Nancy Friday afternoon, around two o'clock, Tiger Woods is driving
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Speaker 2: his Range Rover near his home on Jupiter Island, Florida.
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Speaker 2: He's on a small two lane road and he decides
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Speaker 2: to pass a truck carrying a trick. As he goes
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Speaker 2: to speed up to get around the trailer, he clips
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Speaker 2: it on the back, causing his range Rover to flip
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Speaker 2: on its side and slide climbs out of the passenger
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Speaker 2: side window. And of course police are called and he
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Speaker 2: appeared disheveled, not able to really make a lot of sense.
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Speaker 3: But you know, they didn't smell alcohol in his breath.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Tiger Woods golf ledgend now facing a legal dog
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Speaker 1: fight against Florida prosecutors, Will they quote make an example
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Speaker 1: out of him? What really happened? This is what I
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Speaker 1: do know. I do know, and correct me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 1: Dave mac He refused a year analysis. Law enforcement came
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Speaker 1: to the scene believe and state in police reports they
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Speaker 1: believed that he was under the influence not of alcohol,
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Speaker 1: but some sort of drug, be it prescribed or not.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that true?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he did take a breath that he took a
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Speaker 2: breathalyzer test.
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Speaker 3: And blue zero point zero zero.
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Speaker 2: That is why after a roadside limited sobriety test, detectives
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Speaker 2: determined he was under the influence of something. But Tiger
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Speaker 2: Woods refuses to do the blood test. In Florida, that's
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Speaker 2: a misdemeanor. So he gets a charge for not taking
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Speaker 2: the blood test, and they are charging him with driving
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Speaker 2: under the influence for failing at the roadside, sobriety checkpoint.
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Speaker 1: Dave mac I believe he refused to give a urine
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Speaker 1: sample twice, But you're right, he refused it on the roadside,
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Speaker 1: and he refused it at the jail. That in itself
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Speaker 1: is an infraction of your driving privileges. Here's my concern.
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Speaker 1: I love Tiger Woods. I always root for Tiger Woods.
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Speaker 1: I can never get the image of him coming up
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Speaker 1: on the last hole. He'll be wearing a red shirt.
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Speaker 1: His dad in life would be wearing a red shirt
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Speaker 1: and they would meet and the dad would walk the
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Speaker 1: course with him. Remember that. That has always been in
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Speaker 1: my mind. And I remember distinctly his first golf competition
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Speaker 1: after his father had passed away. He walked up the
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Speaker 1: hill and there was no dad, and I and every
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Speaker 1: other commentator noticed it. It's very much etched into everyone's mind.
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Speaker 1: He is in media darling. Everybody loves Tiger Woods. But
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Speaker 1: this is what I cannot ignore. Let's see his history.
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Speaker 1: Put it up. This is by far not the first
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Speaker 1: time Tiger Woods has had a let me just say,
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Speaker 1: that's not his driving history. Put up his driving history.
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Speaker 1: I can only vamp so long waiting for you to
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Speaker 1: push the right button. This is not, by far his
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Speaker 1: first driving infraction, and that is certainly a euphemism. Two
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Speaker 1: thousand and nine. These are the ones we know of.
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Speaker 1: The fire hydrant crash. He collided with a fire hydrant
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Speaker 1: and a tree after leaving his own home. Can't get
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Speaker 1: away from that. DUI number one, asleep behind the wheel.
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Speaker 1: Driving under the influence doesn't refer just to alcohol. It's
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Speaker 1: the influence of drugs or alcohol. Twenty twenty one, eighty
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Speaker 1: seven miles an hour, and what I recall off the
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Speaker 1: top of my head was a forty five mph zone
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Speaker 1: in that case. To doctor Kendall Crown's joining US renowned
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Speaker 1: medical examiner out of Terrance County, that's fort worth. Never
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Speaker 1: a lack of business at the Morgue. He is an
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Speaker 1: esteemed lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU,
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Speaker 1: and he is the star of Mayhem and the Morgue,
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Speaker 1: a hit podcast. Doctor Kendall Crowns. Do you recall what
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Speaker 1: happened to Tiger's leg? Tiger Woods's leg in that incident,
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Speaker 1: he was this close to having his leg amputated.
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Speaker 4: Why so, in that one he had massive fracturing of
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Speaker 4: I believe is to be amphibula that actually ended up
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Speaker 4: having to be have a rod put in place, which
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Speaker 4: means these fractures were so severe that the bones were
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Speaker 4: not connecting anymore, or a compound type fracture, which if
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Speaker 4: you pushed that a little bit further, you the muscle
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Speaker 4: and the skin are the only thing holding the leg
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Speaker 4: into place. So potentially his leg could have been completely
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Speaker 4: ripped off in that accident and he had to have
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Speaker 4: significant surgery to repair it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you're going too fast for as mirror mortals. Can
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Speaker 1: you take it more slowly and explain to me why
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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods and he has said this, that's where I'm
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Speaker 1: getting it. This close to having his leg amputated. I
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Speaker 1: mean that would have taught me stay away from the
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Speaker 1: drugs and the alcohol, but it didn't. Okay, slow it
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Speaker 1: down for us and explain what happened in that incident.
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Speaker 4: So in that incidence, he had what is called a
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Speaker 4: compound fracture of his tibbianphibula, which are the two bones
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Speaker 4: in your lower leg, and a compound fracture means they're
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Speaker 4: completely separated off of each other instead of being close
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Speaker 4: to one another, so they had to use rods to
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Speaker 4: repair it. But the problem is is when you get
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Speaker 4: those compound type fractures, all that's keeping your leg together
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Speaker 4: is your skin and muscle and your vascular and those
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Speaker 4: if those get torn even further, your leg completely comes off,
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Speaker 4: because really your bones are what's keeping your leg together,
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Speaker 4: and once those are fractured in displaced, the only thing
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Speaker 4: left keeping it together is your skin and muscle, and
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Speaker 4: it doesn't take much force to rip those apart. So
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Speaker 4: he was really close to having an amputation at that moment.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns, this reminds me of the oj Simpson
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Speaker 1: murder trial where Nicole Brown's head was only still attached
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Speaker 1: to her neck because of the little bit of skin
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Speaker 1: in the back her. Everything, the bone, the muscle, the
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Speaker 1: everything was severed. And you're telling me in this case
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Speaker 1: with Tiger Woods, it was just the skin and the
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Speaker 1: blood vessels holding his leg on his body and the muscle.
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Speaker 4: Yesab more likely than not. That's why all that was
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Speaker 4: keeping him intact, because the bones were completely fractured.
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Speaker 1: Golf legend. Tiger Wood's arrest for a car crash in
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Speaker 1: Florida at least the fourth auto related incident of his
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Speaker 1: the second in which she's charged with duy and duy
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Speaker 1: is drugs or alcohol. According to the police report, he
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Speaker 1: showed signs of impairment and was arrested there. At the scene,
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Speaker 1: he struck another vehicle he was trying to pass, not
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Speaker 1: just a vehicle, but a vehicle dragging a vehicle behind it.
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Speaker 1: His land rover rolls over and he's not far from home,
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Speaker 1: as was the case in a prior incident. He did
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Speaker 1: a breathalyzer, it's negative. He refused a urine test. Why
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Speaker 1: why refuse the urine test? He refused to submit to
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Speaker 1: a lawful test. That is a misdemeanor. Now, back in
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Speaker 1: twoenty seventeen, that's when he has found asleep at the wheel,
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Speaker 1: engine running in a traffic lane, damage to the driver's side.
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Speaker 1: At that time, he stated he had taken a mix
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Speaker 1: of prescription painkillers. He said he had a bad reaction. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that bad reaction was he fell asleep at the wheel
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Speaker 1: and hit something nobody really knows what. So, Dave Matt,
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Speaker 1: was that his first driving infraction that we know.
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Speaker 2: Of, Well, the two thousand and nine infraction is the
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Speaker 2: first one we know of Nancy, and that was the
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Speaker 2: fire hydrant collision at two thirty in the morning.
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Speaker 3: That's with his first wife.
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Speaker 2: You know, el catches him outside and has to beat
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Speaker 2: the back window in with the golf club. This was
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Speaker 2: right outside the house when that actually happened, and he
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Speaker 2: had a bloody lip, blood in his mouth. The next
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Speaker 2: one was twenty seventeen and Nancy that crashed there that
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Speaker 2: DUI in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 3: He had Tiger Woods, had a lot of.
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Speaker 2: Medication in his system, a lot of different types of medicaid,
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Speaker 2: including vicodin, dilauded, xan X, ambient anti marijuana.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure that Wait a.
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Speaker 1: Minute, Wait a minute, Dave Matt, don't just roll it off. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you said vicodin, delauded, I heard pot. Was there pot
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Speaker 1: in the system?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? There was?
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Speaker 2: Okay, what else vikod in, diluded, xanax, and ambient beyond
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Speaker 2: the pot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all at the same time.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, the golf champion Tiger Woods
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Speaker 1: detained after flipping his suv trying to pass a truck
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Speaker 1: with a trailer on the back at a high speed
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Speaker 1: in the Billionaire That's Big as in Brother Billionaire enclave
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Speaker 1: of Jubiter Island, Florida. Police found peels in his pocket
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Speaker 1: after arriving at the scene. He was charged with dui
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Speaker 1: property damage and refusal to submit to a lawful test.
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Speaker 1: He pled not guilty. He's set to appear in court
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Speaker 1: in the following weeks. But right now he is in Zurich, Switzerland,
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Speaker 1: seeking professional help and he needs it, and I hope
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Speaker 1: he gets it, and I hope for once he gets healed.
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Speaker 1: Why because if he stays on the track he's on now,
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Speaker 1: someone is going to die, be it him or whoever
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Speaker 1: he mows down. Why do I say that because of
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Speaker 1: the facts. To doctor Kendall Crowns, could you explain what
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Speaker 1: those substances are?
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Speaker 4: Certainly so. Vicodin is hydro codone and acetameniphin together, hydro
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Speaker 4: cotone being an opioid, cedamnovn being like tailan all or
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Speaker 4: an analogesus deluded is also known as hydromorphone. Again, it's
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Speaker 4: a another one in the opioid category, which would go
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Speaker 4: along with the hydrocodone. Xanax is an anti anxiety drug
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Speaker 4: that's a benzodiazepin also known as elpraslam, so it kind
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Speaker 4: of sedates you. And then of course ambient is used
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Speaker 4: for insomnia. All four of these medications together would be
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Speaker 4: a very bad mixture that we see in drug overdose
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Speaker 4: is quite common and it's not something that you want
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Speaker 4: to mix, put together or mix commonly because you can
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Speaker 4: easily overdose. And what they usually do is cause drowsiness
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Speaker 4: or sleepiness, which would cause him to crash his.
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Speaker 1: Car straight out to doctor Bethany Marshall, joining US renowned psychoanalyst.
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Speaker 1: She is the author of deal Breakers. You can see
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Speaker 1: her now on Bravo and Peacock and find her a
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany. That's a lot
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Speaker 1: of drugs, some prescribed, some illegal. What do you make
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Speaker 1: of it?
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Speaker 5: Well, I have so many thoughts about this. One of
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Speaker 5: the things we see with athletes is that they have
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Speaker 5: a lot of injuries over time, and because of that,
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Speaker 5: they might be prescribed opiates, which then begins the process
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Speaker 5: of an addiction. People can become addicted to opiates very easily,
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Speaker 5: and the benzodiazepines like the ambient. Often with opiates there's
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Speaker 5: a nodding off quality, like there'll be a wake one
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Speaker 5: minute and they will just nod out okay. So in
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Speaker 5: the two thousand and nine DUI was fascinating as I
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Speaker 5: covered that with you, Nancy. I remember being in the
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Speaker 5: waiting room or the green room at CNN and all
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Speaker 5: of Tiger Wood's girlfriends were coming in, so I was
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Speaker 5: able to hear all the Pine scene stories from them.
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Speaker 5: But what was clear was he took ambient at two
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Speaker 5: thousand and nine, fell asleep, his phone kept blowing up.
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Speaker 5: Elin Nordegren looked in the phone and saw that they
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Speaker 5: were all these girls. She grabs one of his golf
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Speaker 5: club I don't think she hit him with it, but
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Speaker 5: she grabbed him, woke him up. He ran out the
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Speaker 5: door on ambient, climb into a golf cart and hit
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Speaker 5: a tree. So you already have you know the benzos
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Speaker 5: in his system, poor judgment, impulsivity, and then you see
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Speaker 5: the next one. He just kind of nods off in
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Speaker 5: the car. By the third time where he almost had
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Speaker 5: to have his leg amp amputated. He's really escalating in
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Speaker 5: his behavior, and I think the layering on of all
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Speaker 5: these medications, my guess is that he would take one
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Speaker 5: doesn't feel high enough, and then would then add another
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Speaker 5: one in still doesn't have the desired effect. If you've
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Speaker 5: ever heard of the term chasing that first high, it's
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Speaker 5: the term when people suffering from substance use disorders tried
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Speaker 5: to create that initial euphoric effect when they first take
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Speaker 5: a drug, and that's why they take more and more
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Speaker 5: and eventually I think what doctor Kendall Crown's is referring
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Speaker 5: to in terms of do you in terms of overdoses,
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Speaker 5: I call it pulling a heath Ledger, because pretty much
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Speaker 5: your breathing is suppressed and you just drift out, drift
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Speaker 5: out of this world, and then that's it. And so
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Speaker 5: at this point he's kind of lost a sense of
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Speaker 5: where he is, who he is, how much he has taken.
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Speaker 5: I guess he's just sober enough to say he wants
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Speaker 5: to refuse the r analysis, but he's definitely extremely impaired.
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Speaker 1: You know, remember doctor Bethany after the incident in twenty
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Speaker 1: one where he shattered his leg. He had to have
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Speaker 1: a hospital bed put in his home, and he was
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Speaker 1: completely immobilized for three months. I think that would have
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Speaker 1: taught most people stay away from the booze and the drugs.
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Speaker 1: On the other hand, his leg had been shattered and
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Speaker 1: that the pain must have been intense and it's probably
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Speaker 1: ongoing forever for the rest of his life.
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Speaker 5: Yet I'm thinking that what might have happened is we
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Speaker 5: don't know of any rehabs or I haven't heard of
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Speaker 5: any or any kind of treatment he's interested.
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Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, he went into a drug addiction facility.
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Speaker 1: Dr Bethany twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 5: Well, good for him, But in that drug addiction facility,
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Speaker 5: you know, if his leg was almost amputated, they would
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Speaker 5: have to prescribe opiate's pain medication, maybe morphine. So perhaps paradoxically,
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Speaker 5: the accident re addicted him by reintroducing him to these
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Speaker 5: kinds of pain medications.
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Speaker 3: Oh.
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Speaker 5: These substances act on the reward centers of the brain,
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Speaker 5: which becomes a powerful motivator for taking more and more
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Speaker 5: and more substances until the person is completely addicted.
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Speaker 1: Joining us now out of New York p r Guru
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Speaker 1: to the Stars and Celebrities, Rob Shooter. He is also
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Speaker 1: the author of a brand new book, It Started with
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Speaker 1: a Whisper, that is now number one on the Amazon
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Speaker 1: charts for new releases. You can find him at robshooter
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Speaker 1: dot substack dot com. Rob if And when will the
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Speaker 1: public get fed up with second chances for Tiger Woods?
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Speaker 6: When I think it's happening, Nancy, I really do think
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Speaker 6: it's happening. There's an epidemic of drugs of substance abuse
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Speaker 6: amongst the rich and the famous and the powerful. And
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Speaker 6: what the sad story here is that not only has
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Speaker 6: Tiger not learned his lesson, he's continuing to put other
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Speaker 6: people at risk here. If he wants to do drugs
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Speaker 6: and stay home and pass out, up to him, he
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Speaker 6: can live that life. He's got plenty of money, he
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Speaker 6: doesn't need to worry about going to work tomorrow. However,
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Speaker 6: to get in the car, to drive on public streets,
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Speaker 6: to put other people at this danger is so galling
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Speaker 6: to me, is so wrong to me. And I think
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Speaker 6: that's what the public is going to get sick of.
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Speaker 6: Not Tiger. If he wants to kill himself, if he
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Speaker 6: wants to mess with his own life, that's up to him. However,
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Speaker 6: he can't take us down with him. That's what's going
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Speaker 6: to stick.
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Speaker 1: He is a media darling. Everyone has a soft spot
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Speaker 1: in their heart for Tiger Woods. We've watched him grow
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Speaker 1: up and become the champion that he is. You said
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Speaker 1: he hasn't learned his lesson, but apparently he learned not
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Speaker 1: to take a r analysis.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, really good point, Nancy. So he learnt the law here,
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Speaker 6: or maybe how to avoid the law. He knew not
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Speaker 6: to take that test. And you gotta ask why this
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Speaker 6: is not a dumb person. I've met Tiger, I've interviewed him.
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Speaker 6: He's a very, very smart person who has worked extremely
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Speaker 6: hard to get where he is. But he's also too
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Speaker 6: riddled with demons, and he's never ever really dealt with them,
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Speaker 6: and it feels chrisis after a crisis, he just picks
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Speaker 6: himself up and moves on. Maybe this time will be
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Speaker 6: the final warning. However, my experience with celebrity is that
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Speaker 6: it won't be. Nancy, We're going to be talking about
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Speaker 6: this again, I fear sooner than later.
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Speaker 1: Well, I get a lot of my sports news from
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Speaker 1: Dave Portnoy at Barstool Sports. Portnoy is tearing into Woods
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Speaker 1: and demanding he can go to jail. Quote you're gonna
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Speaker 1: kill somebody. So here's my next question to you, Rob Shooter.
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Speaker 1: Have you noticed how the media and the public turn
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Speaker 1: a blind eye to Tiger Woods, But if it's someone,
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Speaker 1: let's just say Britney Spears, for instance, they go hog
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Speaker 1: wild trying to crucify her. And I'm not saying she
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Speaker 1: should get special treatment. I'm saying I see a difference
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Speaker 1: in the way she's treated and the way he's treated.
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Speaker 6: There's no doubt, Nancy, it's a double standard here. Is
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Speaker 6: it because he's a sports star rather than being a petician?
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Speaker 6: Is it because he's a man rather than being a woman.
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Speaker 6: I don't know if I know the answer to that,
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Speaker 6: but I do agree with you, Nancy the recent over.
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Speaker 1: I'm just a trial lawyer. You're the pr guru, you're
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Speaker 1: the one with the number one book on Amazon. It
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Speaker 1: started with a whisper. Don't pontificate and throw the question
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Speaker 1: back at me. I want an answer. You know the answer.
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Speaker 1: What is the answer? Why is he treated with kig
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Speaker 1: loves and she's thrown under the bus.
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Speaker 6: I think it's because it's easier to punch Britney Spears.
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Speaker 6: Britney is out there more sloppy, more messy. She posts
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Speaker 6: these videos. Tiger is a very private person, so I
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Speaker 6: think with Tiger, he's managed to keep this illusion that
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Speaker 6: he's still the guy that we want him to be,
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Speaker 6: where in reality we now know that is not the case.
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Speaker 1: You're right. She is being vilified because she dresses the
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Speaker 1: way she does and puts videos of herself buck naked
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Speaker 1: twirling around on Instant while he remains dignified out of
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Speaker 1: his gourge at home on the sofa. He's a man,
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Speaker 1: she's a woman, she's a mother. It goes back to
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, the whole Madonna horror thing.
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Speaker 6: It's heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, Bethany, So I'm spoonfeeding you here, Shooter, How did
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Speaker 1: your book get to number one on Amazon? When I'm
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Speaker 1: having to spoon feed you? What the difference is? She
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Speaker 1: wears a camusole that falls off when she dances. He
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Speaker 1: stays behind closed doors on his sofa, high as a kite.
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Speaker 1: I mean, really, we saw it endlessly when Britney spears
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Speaker 1: and this is bad, drives over the center lane and
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Speaker 1: then like three seconds later, here comes a car. We
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Speaker 1: don't see all those videos and pictures of Tiger Woods
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Speaker 1: crash into a fixed object, for Pete's sake, really, and
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Speaker 1: all the places you can go, you crash into a
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Speaker 1: fixed object. Now we've got him passing a big truck
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Speaker 1: dragging a vehicle behind him. What if that had had
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Speaker 1: a roll over and all those people died. Do you
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Speaker 1: think about that shooter?
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Speaker 6: I do, I do, Nancy, we're agreeing on this here.
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Speaker 6: I think I've made these points. Says, there's lots of
23:24
Speaker 6: lots of factors. He is a man, and I think
23:27
Speaker 6: too that he keeps his private life private. Brittany is
23:30
Speaker 6: much more out there. Brittany is somebody who enjoys the spotlight.
23:33
Speaker 6: She enjoys social media. He does not. If you try
23:36
Speaker 6: to follow him on social media, good luck. He doesn't
23:38
Speaker 6: pose a lot of stuff. He posts very very carefully
23:42
Speaker 6: curated photographs, normally of him on a golf course, always
23:46
Speaker 6: with children, always looking respectable. So the image he's putting
23:50
Speaker 6: out to the world is the one he wants us
23:52
Speaker 6: to believe. And we have, Nancy, we believe these photographs
23:56
Speaker 6: were seeing They're partially true, they're not lies. That's part
23:59
Speaker 6: of his life, but also too has an incredible, messy,
24:03
Speaker 6: sloppy part of his life. Of his history and that
24:07
Speaker 6: he doesn't want us to talk about. However, now because
24:10
Speaker 6: of what's happened, it's the only thing we're going to
24:12
Speaker 6: be talking about. It doesn't matter how many of these beautiful,
24:15
Speaker 6: beautiful shots he puts up. Now we're going to be
24:18
Speaker 6: talking about what is really going on and how did
24:22
Speaker 6: he fool us for so long?
24:24
Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been for since day one.
24:27
Speaker 3: You love to day.
24:28
Speaker 6: One you said you loved him, Nancy.
24:31
Speaker 1: I do, but I don't. I don't love tiger Woods,
24:36
Speaker 1: but I don't love vehicular homicides in any in any
24:43
Speaker 1: other jurisdiction, this would be what we call an HV
24:47
Speaker 1: habitual violator. And there is no way when I prosecuted
24:52
Speaker 1: that an HV walked free, because an HV means that
24:59
Speaker 1: you've had driving offenses time after time after time after time,
25:04
Speaker 1: and you've always walked free. But then when you're charged
25:07
Speaker 1: with HV habitual violator, you're not walking free again. Now
25:12
Speaker 1: Portnoy's saying it, I'm saying it. Why is he not
25:16
Speaker 1: behind bars? And it pains me. I wanted to see
25:19
Speaker 1: his big comeback at the Masters. I wanted him to succeed,
25:23
Speaker 1: to overcome everything that has happened to him. With all
25:27
Speaker 1: the public support, he does it again. Could you explain
25:30
Speaker 1: another thing to me, Rob Shooter, Why is Tiger Woods
25:35
Speaker 1: set to profit You heard me right, profit from the
25:40
Speaker 1: Dui arrest Because fans are clamoring, clamoring, They're fighting to
25:47
Speaker 1: buy the polo shirt he was wearing when he flipped
25:52
Speaker 1: his suv and nearly caused of vehicular homicide. Why do
25:58
Speaker 1: they want the shirt?
26:00
Speaker 5: It's horrific.
26:01
Speaker 6: We see this with popstars too, when they're get in
26:04
Speaker 6: trouble their music charts, when they do something awful, their
26:07
Speaker 6: t shirts sell. And so he's a brand, Nancy. He's
26:11
Speaker 6: not just a golfer. He's one of the first billionaires
26:15
Speaker 6: in the business of sports, and he got there by
26:18
Speaker 6: being an incredible marketer. You can buy so many of
26:22
Speaker 6: his products. I went on eBay this morning and checked
26:25
Speaker 6: and that his stuff has absolutely spiked. The clothes that
26:29
Speaker 6: he wears now people want. I think they want to
26:31
Speaker 6: support him. I think people want to support him. I
26:34
Speaker 6: also think too, this is a way of people not
26:37
Speaker 6: believing what's in front of their very eyes. It's really
26:40
Speaker 6: hard to get people to get angry about Shooter.
26:45
Speaker 1: Did you buy one of the shirts.
26:48
Speaker 6: I did not, Nancy.
26:49
Speaker 5: No.
26:49
Speaker 1: His clothing brand is sun Day Red and it is
26:55
Speaker 1: the shirt is sold out. Let's see the mug shot.
27:00
Speaker 1: He is wearing one of his branded shirts. It's one
27:02
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five dollars. I sound like a commercial.
27:06
Speaker 1: It's a distinctive blue polo shirt. He was wearing it
27:09
Speaker 1: at the time of his dui rest and it has
27:11
Speaker 1: sold out after all of his flans. Fans flocked to
27:15
Speaker 1: his website to get the item of clothing. Now, I
27:19
Speaker 1: want to I want you Rob Shooter to hear this
27:23
Speaker 1: from the Martin County Sheriff.
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Speaker 7: As he was trying to move to the side of
27:28
Speaker 7: the road. Our investigation revealed as follows. Shortly, our investigation
27:33
Speaker 7: revealed as follows shortly again before too the pressure cleaner
27:38
Speaker 7: truck truck pulling a trailer or a small trailer was
27:41
Speaker 7: northbound on South Beach Road and was pulling kind of
27:46
Speaker 7: to turn into a driveway. It was slowing down starting
27:49
Speaker 7: to turn into a driveway, and the driver of that
27:51
Speaker 7: vehicle looked in his mirror and saw a land Rover
27:55
Speaker 7: or dark colored land Rover overtaken him at high speeds.
27:58
Speaker 7: And I don't know those speeds, the land rover kept
28:02
Speaker 7: overtaking him. He saw it coming, so he tried to
28:04
Speaker 7: edge off to the side of the road. But this
28:07
Speaker 7: is a small two lane road and there was no
28:10
Speaker 7: shoulder for this pressure cleaner gentleman to get off the
28:15
Speaker 7: side of the road.
28:17
Speaker 1: So Woods is essentially driving the vehicle off the side
28:21
Speaker 1: of the road. Listen to more.
28:23
Speaker 7: As he was trying to move to the side of
28:25
Speaker 7: the road, the land rover overtook him at the last minute,
28:29
Speaker 7: swerved to avoid a collision, but clipped the back end
28:32
Speaker 7: of the trailer of the pressure cleaner apparatus, listed to
28:37
Speaker 7: the side, and then rolled on the driver's door north
28:41
Speaker 7: past the truck that had just avoided the crash.
28:44
Speaker 1: With the sheriff's doing it too. Did you hear that shooter, Op,
28:48
Speaker 1: he just clipped it. He rear ended it. It was
28:52
Speaker 1: a big wreck. Oh, but he clipped it. That makes
28:56
Speaker 1: it sound so innocuous, I know.
28:58
Speaker 6: But that sheriff would not talk about you or me
29:00
Speaker 6: like that, Nancy. It's a different justice for people that
29:03
Speaker 6: are rich and famous.
29:04
Speaker 3: I do get it.
29:05
Speaker 6: I've been starstruck. I've met people that I really wanted
29:09
Speaker 6: to like that. I think I know because I've seen
29:11
Speaker 6: them on television or maybe on stage, and so it's real, Nancy,
29:16
Speaker 6: It's definitely real. Out there, people get starstruck, and they
29:19
Speaker 6: give people the benefit of the diets. But if anybody
29:22
Speaker 6: else had done what Tiger has done repeatedly, they would
29:26
Speaker 6: not they would not be in the same position as
29:28
Speaker 6: him today. And so maybe finally, if there's enough outrage here,
29:32
Speaker 6: maybe things will change. I'm not convinced.
29:34
Speaker 3: What do you think, Shooter.
29:37
Speaker 1: I could listen to you go on and on and
29:40
Speaker 1: on about all your famous clients and how awesome they
29:44
Speaker 1: are and how you're so starstruck. Have you ever attended
29:48
Speaker 1: a dui crash our topsy, Shooter, because that that might
29:53
Speaker 1: just change your mind about your starstruck.
29:55
Speaker 6: I haven't, Nancy, I haven't.
29:57
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you should, and maybe Tiger Woods should. Here's
30:01
Speaker 1: the sheriff.
30:01
Speaker 7: The individual driving that land rover was able to crawl
30:04
Speaker 7: out the passenger drawer of the car and was identified
30:07
Speaker 7: to be mister Tiger Woods. Our DUI investigators came to
30:11
Speaker 7: the scene here and mister Woods did exemplify signs of impairment.
30:17
Speaker 7: They did several tests on him. Of course, he did
30:20
Speaker 7: explain the injuries and the surgers that he had. We
30:22
Speaker 7: did take that into account, but they did do some
30:25
Speaker 7: in depth roadside tests and when it was determined, he
30:29
Speaker 7: was placed under rest and taken to the Martin County jail.
30:33
Speaker 1: And here's another kowinky dink. There have been instances where
30:38
Speaker 1: even though Tiger Woods has gone to the hospital, nobody
30:42
Speaker 1: did a blood test. Never heard of that before. But
30:47
Speaker 1: I want you to hear what else.
30:49
Speaker 7: The sheriff said, Can I give you a general idea
30:51
Speaker 7: of how fast? And the answer is I can't, but
30:53
Speaker 7: I can tell you this. It's a thirty mine hour
30:55
Speaker 7: speed limit. And when I show you the photos, they
30:57
Speaker 7: kind of speak for themselves. You can see where he
30:59
Speaker 7: clipped the back of the trailer, you can see where
31:01
Speaker 7: he rolled, and then as he decelerates, sliding down on
31:05
Speaker 7: the driver's door of the vehicle, you can see that
31:07
Speaker 7: he slid for a pretty decent space before he came
31:10
Speaker 7: to a stock.
31:11
Speaker 1: I have never had a case like this where an
31:15
Speaker 1: accident reconstructionist or a member of law enforcement rob shooter
31:19
Speaker 1: cannot tell me how fast they estimate the purp is driving.
31:24
Speaker 1: But now it's so mysterious, nobody can tell me how
31:27
Speaker 1: fast they think Woods was driving. You want to tell
31:30
Speaker 1: me that that big honking suv he was driving doesn't
31:34
Speaker 1: have a black box, doesn't have a NAV system to
31:37
Speaker 1: tell me how fast he was driving? It does?
31:41
Speaker 6: It does not say it absolutely does, And so we
31:43
Speaker 6: have to ask here, what is going on? And is
31:45
Speaker 6: there a different level of justice for famous people? I
31:48
Speaker 6: think the answer is an obvious, obvious Yes. It's very
31:52
Speaker 6: easy here to get angry with Tiger Woods, and we
31:55
Speaker 6: should be, But we should also be really angry with
31:58
Speaker 6: the system that is allowing him because of his fame,
32:01
Speaker 6: because it's allowing him to get away with it, Nancy,
32:05
Speaker 6: it really is. Why else would he be getting away
32:07
Speaker 6: with this. He's not getting away with it because he
32:10
Speaker 6: gets caught and held accountable. He keeps getting away with it,
32:15
Speaker 6: and we have to ask why.
32:16
Speaker 1: What's your advice to words tonight.
32:18
Speaker 6: You need to get to rehab, you need to get serious,
32:21
Speaker 6: you need to say sorry, You need to own this,
32:24
Speaker 6: and you need to get from behind that car. He
32:26
Speaker 6: has plenty of money, hire a driver. Never ever get
32:30
Speaker 6: in a car again. You're not trustworthy, you know, shooter.
32:32
Speaker 1: This reminds me also of the winnowna writer case. I
32:36
Speaker 1: love her. Remember when she shotlifted and instead of saying, Okay,
32:41
Speaker 1: you know what I did it? Why did I do it?
32:43
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've got a problem. I've got money.
32:45
Speaker 1: I could pay for this, but I did it. And
32:48
Speaker 1: for all of you girls that look up to me,
32:50
Speaker 1: don't do this. But instead, she gets the best lawyer
32:53
Speaker 1: she can find, Mark Gearghest, and they go to trial
32:55
Speaker 1: and she's proven to be a liar and it nearly
32:59
Speaker 1: ruined her career. So here, I think, and I'm certainly
33:04
Speaker 1: not a pr guru to the stars like you, Rob Shooter,
33:07
Speaker 1: but I think he needs to say yes, I did it,
33:10
Speaker 1: punish me. I want to change my life, and I
33:13
Speaker 1: don't want all of my fans to emulate me.
33:16
Speaker 6: It's always the best response own up towards if you
33:18
Speaker 6: did it. I believe he did do it. It's hard
33:20
Speaker 6: for me to imagine how he's going to talk himself
33:23
Speaker 6: out of this. If you did it, the evidence is there,
33:26
Speaker 6: admit it, apologize, and make sure you don't do it again.
33:30
Speaker 3: It's not that hard. What is hard is.
33:32
Speaker 6: That human beings are involved, egos are involved, money is involved.
33:36
Speaker 6: He's getting fresher now from the companies that he owns.
33:39
Speaker 6: And I predict, Nancy, and he won't do the right thing,
33:42
Speaker 6: that he will fight this and maybe he will be
33:44
Speaker 6: proven to be a liar.
33:46
Speaker 5: For I will.
33:52
Speaker 1: Crime stories with me. It's a great Tiger Woods' is
33:59
Speaker 1: golf comeback dreams dashed after his arrest to another DUI
34:05
Speaker 1: driving under the influence. Now he's in a ninety day
34:08
Speaker 1: program in Zurich. Many people argue Tiger Woods should go
34:13
Speaker 1: to jail. He landed in rehab instead, and I mean
34:17
Speaker 1: one cushy rehab. What happened with Tiger Woods? Troy Slayton
34:23
Speaker 1: joining us from the LA jurisdiction renowned criminal attorney. Okay,
34:30
Speaker 1: you've had to defend a lot of DUI charges and
34:33
Speaker 1: you've been successful. What can you tell me beside deny,
34:38
Speaker 1: deny and delayed, delayed delay.
34:40
Speaker 8: Well, I can tell you, Nancy, because I'm a certified
34:45
Speaker 8: Standardized Field sobriety test instructor, which means I have I'm
34:50
Speaker 8: certified by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to teach
34:55
Speaker 8: police officers how to administer these tests. And so I
34:58
Speaker 8: can tell you that when the sheriff says that he
35:02
Speaker 8: admitted or that the officer in the field administered field
35:05
Speaker 8: sobriety tests roadside tests that he called them. Those have
35:10
Speaker 8: nothing to do with drugs. Those have only been scientifically
35:13
Speaker 8: validated as to alcohol. So the officers then asked them
35:18
Speaker 8: to do a roadside bread test and then a test
35:22
Speaker 8: back at the station triple zeros point zero zero blood
35:26
Speaker 8: alcohol and they suspected drugs. So at that point, if
35:31
Speaker 8: they believe that he's impaired by something other than alcohol,
35:35
Speaker 8: they're allowed to ask for a test of his blood
35:38
Speaker 8: or breath, I mean, I'm sorry, of.
35:40
Speaker 3: His blood or urine.
35:42
Speaker 8: In this case, they asked for urine and he refused
35:45
Speaker 8: it recently in two thousand. Last year, in twenty twenty five,
35:51
Speaker 8: in October, Florida passed a new law that made refusal
35:55
Speaker 8: of the urine test a crime in and of itself
35:58
Speaker 8: a misdemeanor. But that will be way less than being
36:01
Speaker 8: found guilty of dui drugs. So he may have done
36:05
Speaker 8: this strategically right thing that will will allow his lawyers
36:10
Speaker 8: to fight the dui charge.
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Speaker 1: Troy, if you were defending this case, what would you do?
36:15
Speaker 1: What would you tell him to do right now?
36:18
Speaker 8: Well, I would tell him to possibly go to some
36:21
Speaker 8: AA or NA meetings. So that way, at his arraignment,
36:26
Speaker 8: which is going to happen in the next couple of weeks,
36:29
Speaker 8: he could show the court that he's not a danger
36:32
Speaker 8: that the bail should be set what it normally is
36:35
Speaker 8: in a first offense case. Now you say, but Troy,
36:40
Speaker 8: he had a conviction in twenty seventeen in Florida. There's
36:45
Speaker 8: only a five year look back as far as sentencing
36:49
Speaker 8: for DUI's in the state of Florida, it'll be considered
36:53
Speaker 8: a second on his criminal record. However, for sentencing purposes,
36:57
Speaker 8: this would just be a first defense. So I would
37:00
Speaker 8: tell him to go to get some NA and AA
37:03
Speaker 8: meetings so that way it can look like he's doing something.
37:07
Speaker 8: But then his attorneys are going to file a motion
37:09
Speaker 8: to suppress evidence because he was held longer than the
37:15
Speaker 8: Florida statute allows, which is eight hours or until you
37:21
Speaker 8: blow below a point five, whichever comes first. They kept
37:26
Speaker 8: him for the full eight hours, which means that his
37:30
Speaker 8: detention at the police station may have been illegal. Therefore,
37:35
Speaker 8: any questions that he was asked anything.
37:40
Speaker 1: Any drug dragging a rig behind him off the road,
37:47
Speaker 1: he's obviously high and kite. He was only behind bars
37:51
Speaker 1: for eight hours. And I'm hearing you want he had
37:57
Speaker 1: seven surgeries.
37:59
Speaker 8: Do you think, and these injuries were potentially failed back surgeries,
38:03
Speaker 8: do you think someone is going to be able to
38:04
Speaker 8: do roadside gymnastics after seven failed back surgeries? You think
38:09
Speaker 8: that that might make somebody look lethargic.
38:12
Speaker 1: No, or I'm not asking him to do a backflip.
38:15
Speaker 1: I'm asking to take out his penis and tt into
38:19
Speaker 1: a cup. You don't have to be naughtya komanichi to
38:22
Speaker 1: do that.
38:22
Speaker 8: There's there's a debate in Florida, in the Florida courts about.
38:27
Speaker 1: Whether beside that question, No.
38:30
Speaker 8: I'm talking about urine, about having to pull out your
38:33
Speaker 8: peepe as you say in front of the police officers.
38:37
Speaker 1: I didn't say pepe. I said penis. Oh you said peep.
38:41
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but go ahead.
38:42
Speaker 3: In any event, Nancy.
38:44
Speaker 8: Uh, there's a debate in Florida whether or not there's
38:47
Speaker 8: a warrant requirement for a urine test, which is less
38:50
Speaker 8: intrusive than a blood test because they're not sticking needles
38:53
Speaker 8: into you. And Uh, it's it's less intrusive, it's more
38:59
Speaker 8: intrusive rather than a bread test. But in this case
39:03
Speaker 8: I'm really curious about why the police officers, if they
39:06
Speaker 8: really suspected drugs, why didn't they get a warrant for
39:09
Speaker 8: his blood and then we would know the exact quantitative
39:13
Speaker 8: amounts that were in his system, because right now we
39:17
Speaker 8: have no idea what if any drugs he had.
39:20
Speaker 1: In his system then, and so there he is there, lawyers,
39:25
Speaker 1: why didn't they, the police get a warrant for blood.
39:28
Speaker 1: It's their fault. Tiger Woods ran a rig off the road.
39:34
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, I'm just in it.
39:35
Speaker 8: I would to get have done a better investigation here.
39:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their fault. Good good luck with that. At
39:40
Speaker 1: trial to doctor Bethany Marshall, we are now learning that
39:45
Speaker 1: one of the reasons Tiger Woods refuses to hire a driver,
39:49
Speaker 1: which he obviously can afford, is reportedly, he wants his privacy.
39:55
Speaker 1: He's not going to get much of that in the Pokey.
39:57
Speaker 5: No, he's not, Nancy, and I saw this pattern of
40:00
Speaker 5: low conscientiousness plus being sneaky about skirting around the rules,
40:05
Speaker 5: which is what he did, low levels of conscientiousness and
40:08
Speaker 5: driving while intoxicated. However, refusing your analysis, I saw this
40:14
Speaker 5: in talking to the many women that he had affairs
40:16
Speaker 5: with back in two thousand and nine in the green
40:18
Speaker 5: room at CNN and HLN. One of the things that
40:21
Speaker 5: they all reported was that he would invite them over
40:24
Speaker 5: to his home or he would hang out with them,
40:27
Speaker 5: but he wouldn't spend any money on them because he
40:31
Speaker 5: didn't want any kind of a money trail that would
40:34
Speaker 5: tie him to them. And one woman said she spent
40:37
Speaker 5: the afternoon with him and she was so hungry there
40:41
Speaker 5: was no food that she actually said, you need to
40:45
Speaker 5: order me a subway sandwich. She was so starved. So
40:48
Speaker 5: you could see the little level of conscientiousness and that
40:51
Speaker 5: he's having these affairs, but he's sneaky enough to get
40:55
Speaker 5: around the system by not spending any money. So it
40:59
Speaker 5: could be that this so called love of privacy is
41:03
Speaker 5: maybe another form of sneakiness or stealth where he hides
41:07
Speaker 5: his reputation or really the messy parts.
41:10
Speaker 4: You know, NaNs.
41:11
Speaker 5: We all have messy parts, right, but hopefully they're integrated
41:14
Speaker 5: enough into our everyday life that we let the people
41:17
Speaker 5: we love look at us and say, look, you need
41:19
Speaker 5: to get some help. But he has completely camouflaged it,
41:22
Speaker 5: and that's why we love him, or you everybody else
41:26
Speaker 5: on this panel. I don't know that much about him
41:28
Speaker 5: except that he appears lovable because he's handsome, He looks intact,
41:33
Speaker 5: and the privacy is a very strong barrier that keeps
41:37
Speaker 5: this messy part from leaking out.
41:39
Speaker 1: Back to doctor Kendall Crowns is joining us out of
41:42
Speaker 1: Terrant County. You're looking at vicodin xanax, ambient delauded pot.
41:51
Speaker 1: How difficult is it, doctor Kindle Crowns, to kick an
41:55
Speaker 1: addiction to any of those medications.
41:58
Speaker 4: The problem is is his whatever he was taking them
42:01
Speaker 4: for the long term pain, et cetera, has resulted in
42:05
Speaker 4: him feeling the need to have these drugs to even
42:07
Speaker 4: feel normal. So it could take a very lengthy time
42:12
Speaker 4: period weeks slash months to get past this addiction. And
42:15
Speaker 4: the problem is is because of his wealth and his fame,
42:19
Speaker 4: there's always going to be someone out there that's willing
42:21
Speaker 4: to find those drugs for them, or get those drugs
42:24
Speaker 4: and give them to them. So get kicking the habits
42:27
Speaker 4: going to be very difficult.
42:29
Speaker 1: A The penalty for a first dui imprisonment six months
42:35
Speaker 1: and a fine. First refusal to submit to a test
42:40
Speaker 1: sixty days and a fine. There's also penalty for property
42:45
Speaker 1: damage that depends on how much damage is done. I
42:52
Speaker 1: don't think there's any way that a judge can treat
42:55
Speaker 1: this as a first dui. Tiger Woods lands in a
42:59
Speaker 1: private jeted Switzerland, seeking professional help following his last arrest.
43:04
Speaker 1: He's got a pain management doctor helping him deal with
43:07
Speaker 1: body pain without addictive opioids, and I'm sure he has
43:12
Speaker 1: intense body pain. He's no spring chicken, and his leg
43:17
Speaker 1: was crushed in one of his driving incidents. It is
43:23
Speaker 1: said he is responding well to treatment.
43:26
Speaker 2: In the aftermath of another vehicle accident and a dui charge,
43:30
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods entered a written plea of not guilty in
43:33
Speaker 2: a Stuart, Florida courtroom, and was granted permission by Judge
43:36
Speaker 2: Darren Still to travel out of the country to Switzerland
43:38
Speaker 2: for rehab. The Zerich clinic is not just a place
43:42
Speaker 2: to detox and get thirty days of sobriety. Would spend
43:45
Speaker 2: forty days of the facility in intensive physical and psychological
43:48
Speaker 2: care before returning to the USA. When his girlfriend, Vanessa
43:52
Speaker 2: Trump announced she has breast cancer and his undergoing treatment,
43:56
Speaker 2: would spend ten days in Florida with Vanessa as her
43:59
Speaker 2: treatment began, but taking his sobriety very serious, Woods opted
44:03
Speaker 2: to return to Switzerland to continue his treatment plan. The
44:06
Speaker 2: clinic is addressing multiple issues with regard to Wood's health,
44:10
Speaker 2: psychological as well as physical. Woods has pain from serious
44:13
Speaker 2: injuries over the last thirty years, and his treatment plan
44:16
Speaker 2: includes alternative pain management therapy to help him manage chronic
44:21
Speaker 2: pain without the use of addictive opioids. To that end,
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Speaker 2: Tier Woods will not be competing in any of golf's
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Speaker 2: major tournaments this year. Having won fifteen majors in a
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Speaker 2: career that includes eighty two PGA Tour victories, Wood's future
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Speaker 2: in the sport remains questionable, as the fifty year old
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Speaker 2: is missing all four majors, the Master's PGA Championship, US
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Speaker 2: Open and British Open for the second year in a.
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Speaker 1: Row despite his luxury rehab treatment. Prosecutors are now examining
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Speaker 1: his prescriptions back home to determine if he was warned
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Speaker 1: not to drive while taking them. Of course, he should
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Speaker 1: have known that anyway, being on pain meds for years
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Speaker 1: and years and years. We wait as justice unfals. Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace signing of good Night