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EP9 - You're Afraid of What? · Oh And One More Thing

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  Some old friends facing our fears, laughing through the
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  chaos and drinking some beers. So here's to the laughs, the
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  crumbs and the cheers. All the awkward moments.
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  And we're still here. Because in the end, we're just
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  doing our thing. It's our crazy life. 01 more
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  thing one. More thing.
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  Welcome to Oh and one more thing, a podcast where 2 long
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  time friends try to figure out what the heck is going on with
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  this crazy thing called middle age.
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  It's a mix of stories of how we navigate our lives and maybe
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  some questionable advice. Some days we're wise, other days
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  we're just trying to remember where the heck we left our
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  phone. So join us as we laugh, groan,
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  and maybe even learn a little something about surviving in the
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  second-half of life. Oh, and one more thing.
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  Hello, I'm Brian and welcome to. Oh, and one more thing.
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  Hey, I'm Rob. Hey everybody.
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  So this tonight we're recording. This is a little different for
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  us. It is different and I'm kind of
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  excited because normally we record these on at some random
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  night during the week, but this one we're doing on a Saturday
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  night. And I have a beer.
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  I have AI, have AI have a not a beer.
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  I have a carbless this evening so hopefully a little more
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  loosey goosey tonight than we normally do.
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  I've never loosey goosey but kind of exciting because why are
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  we doing this on a Saturday night?
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  Brian, what's, what's your wife got going on tonight?
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  She is going to the opera. Yeah, it was a birthday gift
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  from two of her daughters, right?
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  That sounds wicked boring to me, no?
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  It would be, I'm sure. It's very fun and exciting.
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  Yeah, I'm sure it is. I'm not sure they're having a
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  great time. So.
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  So what's the good word? My friend, you know, it's
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  getting really nice outside. It's lake time and cabin time.
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  You got your boat out. Yeah, we did.
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  Yeah. It's a Memorial Day, a weekend
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  as yes, that's when usually in Minnesota, that's when we tend
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  to drop boat in the water if you're not a Fisher person,
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  which I'm not. I'm not a Fisher person.
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  Either it's not my thing. We just like to go out and hang
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  on the water and drink and listen to tunes and just kind of
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  chill out for a day. Yeah.
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  So about four years ago we bought a a new pontoon, a Sea
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  Doo switch. Yeah, which which tell me about
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  that. I've seen and you've been on it.
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  I've. Been on it, but it's different
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  than your regular pontoons that we're all familiar with.
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  It is, and it's it's quite fun. So it's it's a, it's a Sea Doo.
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  So it's a, the hall of it is actually a Sea Doo jet ski hall.
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  It's a jet ski motor in there. Yeah.
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  And they basically attach a pontoon to it when they first
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  came out about four years ago. I mean, we had it on the lake.
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  And I mean, people just, I mean, I, I can't tell you how many
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  people came up to us. We're just fascinated with it
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  and I and it's and super fun. We can do lots of fun things
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  with it. We told the girls behind and
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  they wake board and we too behind it.
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  All the fun things all. The fun things, it's not quite a
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  jet ski. I think that's a misconception.
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  When people see it or they buy it initially, like, oh, I'm just
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  going to get a really fast jet ski.
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  No, it's still a pontoon people. It's it's meant to cruise and
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  that kind of thing, but you can still have some fun with it.
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  But so it's been pretty fun, but and what we have not done yet is
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  we have not brought it up to your cabin.
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  You have not. We're going to get that on the
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  agenda. Absolutely, absolutely.
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  But you guys were up there recently, right?
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  Yeah, so we were up there over Memorial weekend.
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  I mean, it was really nice being there again.
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  I haven't been there all winter and, and, but the water's still
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  a little cold. We had a great time hanging out
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  on the deck, having campfires, and even though it's fun this
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  time of year, it's also the time of year that the creepy crawly
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  things start coming out out of the woodwork.
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  Does that creep you out like spiders, snakes, things like
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  that? So yes and no.
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  I mean, like, I don't creep, get creeped out about like spiders
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  in the house, like, you know, go smash a spider and right, get
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  rid of that kind of thing. What does kind of freak me out a
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  little bit is when I'm walking through the yard and a Garter
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  snake comes Slytherin by it more just startles me.
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  I know the shirtless. Yeah, they're not gonna jump and
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  attack. I I get it.
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  I mean, I played with him as a kid, but.
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  But they will bite you. Yeah.
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  It doesn't leave a no, I mean a mark.
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  They're totally harmless and I think we have a little nest kind
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  of in our house by our garage because we've seen them slither
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  down between the pavement and disappear.
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  So I'm sure there's some huge nest with like 80,000 snakes
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  under there. Yeah.
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  But yeah, so it's a yeah. Startled, yes.
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  I mean, freaked out her. A fear?
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  Probably not, but yes, a little freaked out.
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  So it really creeps out my my daughters and and my wife to see
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  these things. And, you know, for me, not so
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  much unless, you know, they don't really bother me.
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  I mean, I can, I obviously have to go kill a spider, right and
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  everything, but unless one crawls over the top of my foot,
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  then I'm like, oh, Oh my gosh. Gross.
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  Yeah, that'll do. It kind of freaks you out.
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  Did I ever tell you about the King Scorpion?
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  No. What's that?
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  OK, so at a former employer, an annual that I do graphics work
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  we're working on this is quite a few years ago when the Mummy
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  Returns DVD came out and we're selling that on the ad.
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  And I got this great idea is like, could we get a king
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  scorpion? Because I knew, you know, in the
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  beginning of the movie, The the Rock, what whatever his mummy
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  name was in the movie, he eats one.
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  OK. Right.
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  And I'm like, could we get a King Scorpion to photograph with
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  the DVD for the cover of the ad? And we're like, yeah, we can do
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  that. So that's so cool because we got
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  a a king scorpion and we were able to photograph it with some
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  sand in the DVD and it was really cool.
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  But the cool part of that was the fact that after we are done
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  with the the photo shoot, I got to hold the king Scorpion in my
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  hand and he crawled on my hand, you know, and those things are
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  they're both the size of, of a small fist, you know, they're
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  pretty large. And you think, Oh my gosh, if it
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  stings me, well, it's they're the least venomous of the
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  scorpion family. And it's just like a bee sting,
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  OK? And since I'm not allergic to
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  bees. No big deal, no big deal.
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  Yeah, so then it was like, hey, let's get crazy at this.
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  And we put him on my shirt and he crawled up my chest towards
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  my face, and we got a photograph, but I can't find it
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  anywhere of me looking down at it, you know, and it's crawling
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  right at my face. Amazing.
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  I thought that was a cool experience.
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  That's kind of cool, yeah. Yeah.
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  So that we thought that would be a great topic for today.
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  Yeah, phobias and fears. So while many people have of
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  know about the common phobias like arachnophobia, right, fear
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  of spiders, we just talked a little about that acrophobia,
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  the fear of hemophobia or hematomophobia, which is fear of
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  blood, which makes sense, OK. Makes sense, yeah.
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  Claustrophobia, the fear of, you know, closed in spaces.
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  But there are also so many more lesser known and very specific
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  phobias that you're probably not aware of.
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  OK. And I found a few to talk about.
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  OK. Cool, that sounds fun.
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  First of all, what are phobias? A specific phobia is a type of
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  anxiety disorder involving an intense fear of an object or
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  situation. The fear becomes a phobia when
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  it's irrational, meaning the anxiety or fear experience
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  experience is disproportionate to the actual danger or threat.
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  It lasts at least six months and it significantly impacts your
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  daily life. That seems.
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  Long it does right to know. What if you got the actual
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  phobia? That's got to be a duration.
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  Duration. I didn't know that.
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  I didn't know that either. Specific phobias cause distress
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  when people are faced with that particular object or situation
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  they fear, and they often go to great lengths to avoid it.
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  OK. Do you have any phobias?
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  That's a tough question. I phobia No, but like I think,
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  like I said earlier, like the whole snake thing startles me.
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  I don't like have a fear of flying or a fear of like falling
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  from heights or anything like that.
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  Don't have a fear of drowning. So I'm I no, I mean nothing.
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  I don't think that jumps out at me.
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  You. Yeah, I have a fear.
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  A fear of heights. You do.
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  So what did we say That was whatever the Fear of Heights
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  name was, But yeah. And it it happened when I was a
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  child and I know exactly how and when it happened because I was
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  climbing a tree and I used my dad's wooden rickety wooden
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  ladder to get up into the tree and lost my balance and fell out
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  of the tree on top of the ladder, thus making me afraid to
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  do that again. Right.
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  And it I didn't, I didn't do too obviously wasn't too worried
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  about when I was young. And then it really became much
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  more of a debilitating fear for me in my older age, right.
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  So we were on a a family trip to Chicago and went up to the
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  Willis Tower and everybody wanted to go up top to the
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  observation deck and they have those new glass floor sections
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  you can walk out on. Yeah, no way.
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  I'm at the interior of the building and I won't even go
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  near the window. Gripping onto the wall under the
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  wall. And and, you know, it's a phobia
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  and a fear because I'm shaking. I can't.
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  I can't uncontrollably shake. I can't stop.
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  Yeah, and and my girls were like, Dad, come out here, come
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  out here and and you know, I could not stand on that glass.
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  And but what I did do is I, I put my foot out there with them
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  and we took a picture of our feet.
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  And that's as much as. Much as we're going to do,
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  That's it. But what's really weird is I've
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  gone bungee jumping and skydiving, really so bungee
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  jumping in my 20s. And so I was afraid, but
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  adrenaline is so high. So I knew while I'm going up and
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  it was on a crane and you jump over some water and the water
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  was only like 2 feet deep. So could have done right, right,
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  right. So I knew if I wasn't going to
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  do it and they count to three, they'll do it 2-3 times.
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  And if you don't go, we're coming down, right.
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  And I, they went 321 and I just fell because I had, I did it
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  with the on my ankles. Yeah.
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  So you just fell and, and going up I'm like getting nervous and
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  and I couldn't really look at the horizon.
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  I couldn't look around because the fear is too great.
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  Right Is is there a certain height that gets to be too much
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  for you? Or is is it that is?
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  It no. I'd be on top of my the roof of
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  my house for whatever need and I could shake and fall off OK.
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  And we did. In Vegas.
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  We went zip lining with the zip flying on Fremont Street.
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  You know, it didn't bother me at all.
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  Didn't bother you at all. Isn't that weird?
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  Because that's like you start up like 5 stories up.
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  Yeah, but, but if you noticed when we were there with Matt, I
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  wasn't standing near the edge. That is true and we also maybe
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  had a cocktail or two on us. That's right, it helped a lot.
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  Maybe. But I went skydiving for a gift
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  to myself when I turned 40. OK, And it was tandem OK.
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  And again, adrenaline. It was the most amazing
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  experience. I was not afraid at all.
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  Yeah, But my my guide. Hmm.
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  Jumping Joe Johnson. I remember that to this day
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  because he was amazing. He was so calming and it's so
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  fun to be with. Right.
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  Yeah, it was great. Yeah.
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  I've. Always wanted to go skydiving,
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  haven't done it. And one of them, one of the
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  people that work for me, she is a skydive instructor.
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  Like every weekend she goes and skydive.
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  Well, you should go do. It I know I totally should.
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  I know. And I, I think this this might
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  maybe be the year I I bite the bullet and just go.
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  So I got one thing to note in skydiving and and we I we we
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  bought the picture package and I can show you those pictures.
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  I have those pictures. There is a lot of skin on your
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  face which ripples. Yes, in in the video you can see
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  it rippling. Yeah, You know, and also a bit
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  of advice. Don't open your mouth.
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  Right. Yeah, I've heard that.
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  Yeah, because. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's it. No bugs flew in anything like
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  that, but it just dries out in a second.
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  Sure, I'm sure. Yeah.
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  And then fun. There's a whole height issue
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  with my, with my headache, really severe headache.
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  Yeah, you know, and that happened, but I was like
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  overlooked at man, you're right. Fall into the earth.
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  Does that tie in with like you have a slight fear flying as
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  well? Is that tie into that is is it
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  the height thing or just just the airplane?
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  It's the pressure. The pressure.
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  OK. So you know, when we fly
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  together, yeah, I have to be a little bit inebriated and I have
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  to take sinus medication. And I got to prep for it, right?
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  I got to make sure I drink a ton of water.
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  Yeah, take sinus medication and I have a shot or a beer or a
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  couple of drinks before I get on a plane.
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  Then I'm much more calm. Yes, you know, and the fear
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  comes in when you're coming down in altitude and I would get a
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  piercing headache right above my eye.
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  And you swear I'm going to go blind, my eye is going to pop
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  out. And when I talked to my doctors
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  and they were like, OK, it's sinus related, OK.
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  And that's why. And as soon as I do the sinus
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  medicines and do that, except for the alcohol, if I do the
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  rest of it, it actually does get better.
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  That makes sense. That makes sense.
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  OK, I get that. So how common are phobias?
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  They got to be common. So specific phobias affect an
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  estimated 9.1% of the US adults every year, with a higher
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  prevalence among females, which is about 12 1/2 percent, than
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  males, just under 6%. It's estimated that 12 1/2% of
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  US adults will experience a specific phobia at some point in
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  their life. Check.
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  Check. Phobias can be serious and
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  potentially debilitating, lead to debilitating mental health
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  problems. Misinformation and
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  misunderstanding still surround phobias, which can make people
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  living with a phobia feel that their condition is trivialized
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  or even mocked. So kind of our point today is
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  not to make fun of anybody or make fun of a phobia.
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  It's kind of shed some light on some of these and explain them a
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  little bit. And and learn about a few of
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  them that we've never heard of. Right, absolutely.
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  So hopefully this effects none of you, but if it does,
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  hopefully the some information will help.
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  So here we go, Brian. You got the first one or I have
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  the first one. I have the first one.
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  Yeah, it's you. It's me.
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  I'm afraid of going first, Brian.
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  I don't think that's not on my left.
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  On your list. All right, all right.
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  First one, nomophobia, which is the fear of being without your
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  mobile phone. What, is that real?
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  Oh, that's real. Yeah.
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  I mean, I always have my phone. With me too, I wouldn't call it
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  a phobia, but if it's not with me, like I do freak out a little
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  bit but so the fear of being without your phone.
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  People with nomophobia experience excessive anxiety
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  about not having the phone with them, their battery being low,
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  or their phone being out of service.
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  Regardless of the circumstances, not being able to use their
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  phone causes people with nomophobia to become panicked
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  and experience extreme symptoms of anxiety.
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  This rare phobia often stems from cell phone addiction, which
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  is fairly common. Research suggests that around
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  half of men and women have cell phone related anxiety, with 20%,
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  Twenty, 3% of male students labeled as nomophobic, with 77%
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  checking their phones over 35 times daily.
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  That's that's excessive. That's excessive.
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  Now, yes, I understand in today's culture, everything's in
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  your phone. And when they said students
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  labeled as nomophobic, yeah, you know, that was interesting to me
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  because maybe it's not so much our generation, right, that has
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  this phobia. Yeah.
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  Although, I mean, my nose is in the phone, right?
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  It's 24/7. It's in the phone a lot.
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  Yeah, me as well, but not as bad as it's like I like I watch my
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  kids and like they grew up with their phone.
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  So like they watch YouTube videos and TikTok videos.
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  I mean, everything's on their phones, on their phone, always
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  on their phone. And what's funny, I think for
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  Christmas last year, my youngest daughter Kayla asked, can I get
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  ATV in my room? And I literally laughed at her
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  and said, no, you're on your phone all the time.
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  Why would I put ATV in your? Room and that's how we watch TV
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  and I don't because I'm of the generation watches the show
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  right and my kids will watch the show air quotes in the in the
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  air here and look at the phone at the same time right.
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  Yeah. How?
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  How do you? Yeah.
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  I don't I, I, I have to, I have to focus.
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  Yeah, yeah. And both even even your age to
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  my age, our we're just we're a little bit we're the same
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  generation generation, but we're still different in the fact that
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  I'm still using printed paperwork here to read this this
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  actual text about the the phobia and you're using your computer.
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  Yes. So.
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  Crazy. And that's just five.
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  Years. I'm old.
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  Old school. You're old.
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  School. I'm old school.
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  I use the tablet using the computer.
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  I use the tablet once. Like, Nah, computer, it's
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  easier. Yeah, So, all right, I got 1
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  here. OK.
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  And it's going to be it's going to take me a minute here.
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  It's it's an odd 1A rocky Bayou two row phobia.
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  OK, let's say a rocky Bayou two row phobia.
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  We'll go with that. Yes, It sounds pretty good.
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  Mm hmm. It's the fear of peanut butter
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  sticking to the roof of your mouth.
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  OK. What?
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  OK, so apparently it affects people in varying degrees.
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  While anyone can experience this, those with I'll say that
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  phobia have an extreme fear of the sensation of it on the roof
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  of their mouth. Some individuals with the
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  condition may only eat a small amount of peanut butter, while
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  others avoid it altogether. They believe that there is a
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  very rare phobia that can stem from the greater phobia of
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  sticky things or the fear of choking.
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  OK, when I read that like OK I get that.
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  That makes a little more sense. Because you do get that in your
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  mouth and, and you're like, OK, there's that quick second, that
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  moment of like, I need some water, right?
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  Can also stem from a traumatic incident with peanut butter,
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  which OK such as choking or being allergic to it, right?
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  So the allergic thing is, I don't want to say funny to me,
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  but so again, we're from a different generation and when we
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  were kids, like our parents just fed us everything, right.
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  And when, Mike? Had to eat what they made.
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  Anything, what they made and when my kids were growing up,
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  you know, you had people have conversations about, well, what
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  if your kids are allergic to peanut butter?
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  I'm like, I don't know, let's give them something to see what
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  happens. Yeah.
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  So see if they blow up, See if they blow up.
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  Right. So that's kind of how I approach
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  it, Like, like I'm not going to, I'm not going to be afraid of
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  them having an allergy to it. Like let's find out if they do
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  and then we'll go from there. When I was young, I was allergic
• 17:48
  to bee stings. When I was 8 or 9, I got stung
• 17:50
  by bees. I blew up with hives and.
• 17:52
  Do you have to carry an EpiPen? No, because I got stung later in
• 17:55
  life, 5-10 years later, 1617 and just nothing.
• 17:58
  I mean, you got a little wealth and that was it.
• 17:59
  Oh, interesting. Yeah.
• 18:01
  So I think that's kind of the same thing with food allergies.
• 18:03
  Like yes, I believe people are have food allergies, they're
• 18:06
  allergic to food, but is it, is it potentially worse because
• 18:10
  they've avoided those foods or whole eyes?
• 18:11
  Like maybe if you slowly introduced it, would that reduce
• 18:15
  it? Reduce it?
• 18:15
  There's a lot of literature out on that.
• 18:18
  Yeah, a ton. And that's a different podcast,
• 18:19
  but. Which I don't know that we're
• 18:21
  gonna go into no rocket, but, you know, we said you're
• 18:23
  allergic to bee sticks. I'm allergic to penicillin.
• 18:26
  Oh, and it didn't when I was a kid.
• 18:27
  I wasn't right, You know, until I was an adult and had to get
• 18:31
  penicillin for whatever happened.
• 18:33
  I broke out in hives. Yeah.
• 18:35
  And so that was in my 20s and I've never had penicillin since.
• 18:40
  Yeah, peanut butter. I eat about 512 tablespoons of
• 18:43
  that a day. So that's that's.
• 18:44
  Well, so do I. It's my daily breakfast.
• 18:46
  Love it, love it. It's good protein.
• 18:48
  All right. Next one plutophobia, which is
• 18:50
  the fear of money. How are you getting all these
• 18:52
  easy ones? I know how to work the system,
• 18:54
  my friend. Yeah, so many people probably
• 18:58
  wish they had more money, but plutophobia is a fear of money
• 19:01
  or wealth. People with plutophobia may fear
• 19:04
  wealthy people or fear becoming wealthy themselves.
• 19:07
  They generally dread money or having to deal with it.
• 19:10
  I'm not fearful of becoming wealthy.
• 19:12
  I know I'm not going to become wealthy.
• 19:14
  Exactly. So definitely not a fear, but I
• 19:17
  I would like to have that fear because.
• 19:19
  I don't know. I don't want the fear.
• 19:20
  I just want the wealthy part, the health.
• 19:22
  Part of it. People with this fear may
• 19:24
  potentially sabotage their careers to avoid making more.
• 19:27
  I shouldn't laugh at that. Sabotage their careers to avoid
• 19:30
  making more money or becoming wealthy.
• 19:32
  The fear of becoming wealthy may stem from the fear of the
• 19:35
  responsibilities and pressures associated with it, or the fear
• 19:39
  of being the victim of a robbery.
• 19:40
  So I can understand if you're a victim, yes, that I can
• 19:43
  understand. But I think that creates trauma
• 19:45
  elsewhere. Yeah, you know, I don't know.
• 19:47
  I mean, I people who don't have this fear probably cannot for
• 19:51
  the life and we can't understand it.
• 19:52
  Yeah, and you see stories all the time where people, like,
• 19:55
  they win the lottery or somebody who's super famous or a sports
• 19:58
  star, whatever. And the one that comes to mind
• 20:01
  for some odd reason is MC Hammer.
• 20:04
  Yeah, I was a huge MC Hammer fan back in the day.
• 20:05
  I bet you were. I was huge and.
• 20:07
  Did you have the pants? I did not have the pants, but I
• 20:09
  did go see him in concert. I and as he's in, in one part of
• 20:12
  the concert, he'd walk. We were on the main floor and he
• 20:13
  walked through the crowd and singing a song.
• 20:15
  I, you know, one of those and I got to touch his shoulders.
• 20:18
  He walked by, but I was, but you know, he was, he was so starved.
• 20:25
  I know, right. But in the early 90s, high to
• 20:27
  fame and, and he had this huge house and his huge posse and
• 20:29
  everything. Well, now, I mean, the guy
• 20:31
  couldn't be, I mean, he has nothing to his name.
• 20:33
  He has nothing to show for it anymore, right?
• 20:35
  And those kind of things I think happen all the time.
• 20:38
  And to me, that's more just a lack of money management than
• 20:40
  the fear of money. Sure, Money management.
• 20:42
  Money management. Yeah.
• 20:44
  All right, all right. The next one's mine.
• 20:45
  Oh my gosh. A short 1.
• 20:48
  What the heck? Are you doing this on purpose?
• 20:50
  Yes, all right. Oh my gosh, bear with me.
• 20:54
  This is super long, OK? It's hai pupa tu maustro SUS
• 21:01
  whipti lilophobia. I said that pretty well that.
• 21:04
  Was pretty good. That was pretty good.
• 21:06
  Guess what? It is the fear of long words.
• 21:09
  Something all right? Well, and ironically, yeah, it's
• 21:13
  the longest word in the dictionary.
• 21:14
  How? Many letters. 36 letters.
• 21:16
  Holy buckets. And I'm not going to say it
• 21:18
  again. So hopefully got that the first
• 21:20
  time. Hit rewind.
• 21:22
  Yeah, another name for the phobia is OK, here we go, says
• 21:26
  Quiptilophobia. Yeah, that's easier to say.
• 21:29
  That is a little bit easier. It's half the letters, half the
• 21:31
  letters. It is believed that the phobia
• 21:35
  of long words develops from being embarrassed by pronouncing
• 21:38
  long words incorrectly. This may occur when while
• 21:41
  reading aloud in front of a class as a child, the phobia
• 21:45
  can. The phobia can also be a common
• 21:48
  in people with dyslexia. Awesome, yeah.
• 21:51
  That sounds. I should have this fear.
• 21:53
  One would think I should have this fear because if you recall
• 21:56
  in the past podcast, we're talking about speech class and
• 21:59
  how I would be embarrassed, right?
• 22:01
  And my bright red ears. That's because of the reading.
• 22:05
  Reading in front of people, just speaking in front of people is a
• 22:07
  fear. Right and look at you now now
• 22:09
  you're a podcast who's going up to I.
• 22:11
  Only see one person, in fact, that is.
• 22:13
  That is true. That is true.
• 22:15
  Who is my buddy? That's right.
• 22:16
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• 23:14
  global phobia, which is the fear of balloons.
• 23:18
  Really. Yeah, well, that's what it says.
• 23:21
  The level of fear varies from person to person, and can range
• 23:23
  from avoiding being near balloons to avoiding places with
• 23:26
  balloons altogether. In some people, the fear is so
• 23:29
  great that even seeing a balloon on television triggers intense
• 23:32
  anxiety. Well, with the movie it.
• 23:35
  This is probably not helping you.
• 23:39
  This rare fear can be especially hard for young children, as
• 23:42
  balloons are often present at children's birthday parties.
• 23:44
  Global phobia is usually brought on by traumatic experience with
• 23:48
  the balloon as a child, such as popping a balloon or being
• 23:50
  frightened by the noise. It can also be linked to the
• 23:52
  fear of clowns or coral phobia. That's close as there are, as
• 23:59
  the two are often found together.
• 24:00
  So funny when I first read this one at first that you've seen
• 24:03
  the movie dodgeball. Yes?
• 24:05
  OK. And the antithesis is global
• 24:09
  gym. OK so I thought it was a fear of
• 24:11
  gyms at first. Oh, that's fear of balloons.
• 24:14
  No, I could see, especially if you have a latex allergy.
• 24:18
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I could be. Fearful of the balloons?
• 24:21
  But I can also see as a child, like somebody sings up behind
• 24:24
  you and pops a balloon, I could see how that could freak out and
• 24:26
  stay with you for a while. Could stay with you, but I don't
• 24:28
  know, I did it. I still like going into dark
• 24:33
  rooms where nobody's at and then as soon as somebody else walks
• 24:35
  by, jump out and go Boo. Did you see?
• 24:38
  Yeah. OK, so I used to do that to my
• 24:39
  sister all the time. Yeah.
• 24:40
  But did you see on TikTok those people that will paint, do the
• 24:45
  whole face paint black? No, everything.
• 24:47
  Paint it all black, Obviously eyes are white and then their
• 24:50
  smile, their teeth are white. And then they'll sneak up while
• 24:52
  somebody's in bed or whatever, and they'll just sit next to
• 24:55
  them waiting for them to. See.
• 24:57
  Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh my gosh I want to do it so
• 25:00
  bad but my wife would divorce. Oh, she would kill you.
• 25:02
  She would absolutely just call the cops out.
• 25:04
  She wouldn't murder you. All right, the next one is
• 25:09
  paganophobia. Oh, that's an easy one.
• 25:11
  Yeah, it's not bad. You know what it is?
• 25:13
  What? The fear of beards.
• 25:15
  Fear the beard. Fear the beard.
• 25:17
  Because you know what? They'd be afraid of us.
• 25:19
  We both have. Beards.
• 25:21
  This usually stems from an alarming incident with a bearded
• 25:24
  person. It could also arise from a
• 25:26
  person not liking that a beard hides someone's face.
• 25:30
  So OK, I can understand that to a degree.
• 25:32
  To a point. People with paganophobia, I said
• 25:37
  that pretty fast will avoid those with beards and may even
• 25:40
  have anxiety when looking at pictures with a person with a
• 25:43
  beard. That seems that's really deep
• 25:45
  into the phobia. They usually will not be friends
• 25:48
  with someone who has a a beard and feel extremely nervous when
• 25:51
  talking to someone. That explains why my friend list
• 25:53
  got a little shorter recently. So much of your, of your friends
• 25:58
  have this phobia that they're like, I'm gonna defriend him.
• 26:02
  I'll take all of those other friends there.
• 26:04
  You go to me. You know who doesn't have a fear
• 26:07
  of beards? Our our new little grandbaby.
• 26:11
  Yeah. As I was holding her today, she
• 26:13
  looked right at me and smiled, then grabbed the heck out of my
• 26:15
  beard and yanked and Oh my God, it hurt.
• 26:17
  Well, a little. Five months old.
• 26:18
  They have a good grip. Yeah, but they she can't grab
• 26:21
  anything on top of your head. Thank you.
• 26:26
  Appreciate that. Thanks for that, I got actually
• 26:28
  a a rim shot as he did. All right, next one decide a
• 26:31
  phobia is. What?
• 26:34
  If you're making decisions, yeah right, that one kind of spells
• 26:36
  itself. Making any kind of decision can
• 26:39
  seem impossible for someone with the cytophobia, as they do not
• 26:42
  trust their own opinions. A person with the cytophobia may
• 26:45
  excessively rely on others to help them with decision making.
• 26:48
  They may even turn to external sources such as astrology for
• 26:52
  advice. Decide.
• 26:54
  A phobia could be part of a larger mental health disorder
• 26:56
  called dependent personality disorder.
• 26:59
  One of the symptoms of dependent personality disorder is relying
• 27:02
  on others to make decisions. Oh, interesting.
• 27:05
  Yeah, I think I know some people that might have decide if yeah,
• 27:09
  decide. Work world, work and family.
• 27:11
  Family too. Yeah, I, I the work world to me
• 27:14
  is that one kind of is funny because I come across this all
• 27:17
  the time, not only my current job, but in previous jobs where
• 27:20
  some people just refuse to make decisions.
• 27:23
  And sometimes it's part of their job.
• 27:24
  You have to be the decision making, decide which way
• 27:26
  something's going to go, but just absolutely refuse to be the
• 27:28
  one that's, you know, throw their hand up and say I made
• 27:30
  that call. Well, how do you make it
• 27:31
  through? I don't.
• 27:33
  Know your job if you can't make a decision.
• 27:34
  It's also kind of like some drivers on the highway going
• 27:37
  back to a previous podcast. Are you annoyed by some drivers?
• 27:41
  I quite am. Is there a phobia there's?
• 27:44
  Definitely not a phobia, but I might be afraid to get into road
• 27:48
  rage incidents. You might get.
• 27:50
  Into road rage. I might, I might.
• 27:52
  OK, so another is Itro. Nope.
• 27:57
  Say that again. Isotropphobia.
• 28:00
  There you go. Which is the fear of mirrors
• 28:03
  now. Aren't vampires then?
• 28:06
  Yeah. Have itrophobia.
• 28:08
  I that would that would be vampires, I would think right
• 28:09
  because. Well they, well, I don't know
• 28:12
  because they can't see them, so they have no reflection.
• 28:14
  Oh, that's true. That's.
• 28:15
  True. So what are they afraid?
• 28:16
  They don't see anything. That's true.
• 28:17
  True. But so I don't know.
• 28:19
  Yeah, it's up in the air, up in the air.
• 28:20
  But this this phobia is also sometimes referred to as
• 28:24
  spectrophobia or or cat no. Cattle.
• 28:30
  Cattop or. A troll Cattoprophobia.
• 28:36
  Let's go, let's go, let's go. Oh my gosh, we just butchered
• 28:40
  that. Butchered that.
• 28:41
  People of this fear are unable to look at themselves in a
• 28:43
  mirror. The fear may also extend to any
• 28:47
  reflective surface. This fear may stem from
• 28:50
  suspicious suspicions about mirrors.
• 28:52
  I can, you know, I can understand the whole witchcraft
• 28:55
  thing in the world. You know?
• 28:56
  For instance, a person may be afraid of being breaking a
• 29:00
  mirror because they believe it causes bad luck.
• 29:03
  Others may fear that they will be something supernatural in the
• 29:07
  mirror, such as the ghost. OK.
• 29:10
  So that's kind of interesting. Interesting.
• 29:12
  Yeah, Yeah. Superstitions about mirrors.
• 29:15
  So the fun house is out for these.
• 29:17
  People the fun house is out. Isotropophobia can develop in
• 29:23
  from low self esteem self esteem as a person may feel ashamed of
• 29:28
  their physical appearance and not want to see in a mirror it
• 29:32
  can it can lead to depression in some cases which may cause may
• 29:36
  require professional treatment in the form of counselling or
• 29:39
  medication. They also wouldn't like to play
• 29:41
  the the the carnival game where you throw balls at the mirrors
• 29:44
  and try and break them. Oh, that's like 7 years bad
• 29:47
  luck. Seven years bad luck.
• 29:48
  Seven years bad luck, right? Walking under a ladder as you're
• 29:51
  throwing balls at a broken air. Black cat and a black cat walks
• 29:54
  by. All right, this one is
• 29:57
  interesting. Papa Phobia.
• 30:00
  What is Papa phobia is. The fear of puppets, dummies and
• 30:03
  marionettes. OK, so there are some creepy
• 30:05
  Marianess. There are saying some creepy
• 30:07
  puppets too. People with this phobia fear
• 30:09
  puppets, dummies and marionettes.
• 30:11
  As with pedophobia, the fear of dolls.
• 30:15
  OK. It's more common in children,
• 30:17
  but adults can be affected too. Like other phobias, there are
• 30:20
  thought to be both genetic and environmental causes to
• 30:23
  puppophobia. The and popular culture scary
• 30:26
  movies feature evil puppet characters, yet it could be a
• 30:30
  contributory factor too. So definitely, yeah, definitely
• 30:32
  movies would. Movies.
• 30:34
  Oh, Chucky. Chucky.
• 30:35
  Yeah. Oh, all those, yeah, that's
• 30:37
  really played into that. Most anyone.
• 30:39
  I haven't seen that. Megan, have you seen?
• 30:41
  Oh yeah, I've seen previous of Megan.
• 30:42
  I'm not gonna. I don't watch horror movies.
• 30:44
  DP robot doll thing. Yeah, I, yeah.
• 30:46
  I would. You know that when you're a
• 30:47
  child and you watch the scary movies.
• 30:51
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:52
  From from then on, the rest of your life, you can't, like, put
• 30:54
  your foot outside of the bed covers way to sleep because you
• 30:57
  think something's going to grab it.
• 30:59
  Yeah. I am late in life.
• 31:02
  Yeah. And I still can't do that.
• 31:07
  I'll like, go to bed and, like, I want to stretch over my arm
• 31:09
  and hang my arm over the side of the bed.
• 31:10
  And I'm like, I'll do for, like a few seconds.
• 31:13
  Like, I'll pull that arm back in.
• 31:14
  Something's going to grab me. How does that hang with you the
• 31:17
  rest of your life, right? You know what movie really
• 31:20
  freaked me out? And again, we're older, so
• 31:23
  Poltergeist. Ohh yeah.
• 31:25
  Yeah, and and the part and not the the Poltergeist movie saw
• 31:28
  me. Yes, it was a little, you know,
• 31:29
  you know, fine. That's a PG movie.
• 31:31
  No. Well, that was before PG 13 came
• 31:34
  out. That can't be a pitch.
• 31:35
  It is a. Vehicle.
• 31:36
  Look it up. It's a PG movie.
• 31:37
  But the scene that really freaked me out was right when
• 31:40
  everything's starting to get haywire in the kids bedroom.
• 31:42
  Yeah, and the little clown on the chair.
• 31:44
  And it was. The clown I remember.
• 31:46
  That yeah, the clown disappears and then he's looking forward to
• 31:49
  thinking it's under the beds. He pulls up the covers and looks
• 31:52
  under the bed or pulls up the sheets and looks under the bed.
• 31:53
  It's not there. And then he goes the other side,
• 31:55
  pulls it up, it's not there. And he's like, Oh my God.
• 31:57
  He sits back up a bed and there's the clown looking right
• 31:59
  at him. Perhaps his arm was around his
• 32:00
  neck and freaks out. And it's old movie so we can
• 32:05
  talk about it, but you know, everything's like moving into
• 32:07
  the into the closet and it opens up and it's sucking everything
• 32:11
  in there and it's just scary right at the time.
• 32:15
  And you had to go get the sucks into the little girl and you go,
• 32:18
  the dad goes in on a rope to retrieve her.
• 32:22
  And he's pulled through downstairs in the.
• 32:25
  They were in the bathroom in the in the in the bathtub.
• 32:28
  I remember. Yeah.
• 32:29
  With that, really. I don't know what you call her.
• 32:33
  The seance woman that was Yeah. Guiding them through.
• 32:36
  Yeah. And then she turns and she just
• 32:38
  creepily says go. To the light, Go to the light.
• 32:43
  Oh, man, you have the movie. That was an early 80s movie.
• 32:46
  That's right when we first got cable in HBO.
• 32:48
  And that thing played non-stop in HBO.
• 32:50
  And I was in my early teens and Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah.
• 32:53
  But every time I was on, I watched it, yeah, knowing I
• 32:55
  would be freaked out. Did you watch Friday the 13th?
• 32:59
  Yeah, I mean, I've yes, I've seen it, but not as much as
• 33:01
  Poltergeist. Oh, well, when it came out and I
• 33:04
  was younger, you know, and watched it because you know,
• 33:07
  when Jason gets his head chopped, that was like
• 33:11
  horrifying and amazing at the same time.
• 33:13
  Yeah, yeah, I was big. Friday the 13th horror movie,
• 33:17
  like when that first came out. Yeah.
• 33:18
  That was cool. And Halloween.
• 33:20
  Halloween. Yeah, Yeah.
• 33:22
  OK, let's get off that. I'm already scared.
• 33:26
  All right, this next one is tripophobia.
• 33:30
  Tripophobia. Tripophobia.
• 33:32
  Fear of holes and patterns again, Shouldn't laugh.
• 33:37
  No, you shouldn't. Shouldn't I totally shouldn't.
• 33:39
  So it's an aversion to patterns of holes or circles that trigger
• 33:43
  a feeling of anxiety, repulsion and disgust.
• 33:47
  This version can also manifest it as a fear of clusters of
• 33:51
  eyes. Have you seen that?
• 33:54
  I've seen this. I've seen that.
• 33:55
  And it. It's creepy.
• 33:56
  Yeah, but I don't have a fear of it.
• 33:59
  It's just creepy. It's creepy.
• 34:01
  It's like the spider crossing, walking off my foot.
• 34:03
  That's a kind. It's creepy.
• 34:04
  Yeah, yeah. Especially when when they are
• 34:06
  arranged in a way that resembles whole objects that commonly
• 34:11
  trigger trypophobia include honeycomb sponges, sunflowers,
• 34:16
  and seeded fruits. Makes sense.
• 34:18
  Makes sense? I can understand that a lot
• 34:20
  because when you see like, a whole cluster of eyeballs and
• 34:23
  eyes, you know, it is creepy. It's creepy.
• 34:25
  I'm picturing a SpongeBob episode, though, and that's not
• 34:28
  creepy. SpongeBob.
• 34:29
  Yeah, he's not creepy. He's not.
• 34:31
  Can you sing the song? Well, there's about pineapple
• 34:34
  under the sea. SpongeBob SquarePants next.
• 34:40
  Thank you. You're welcome.
• 34:41
  That was great. All right, next one,
• 34:43
  glossophobia, which is the fear of public speaking.
• 34:46
  I think I have. That is that why I'm doing this
• 34:48
  one? Yeah, because I'm afraid you're
• 34:50
  afraid. So it's a social anxiety
• 34:52
  disorder. It's the fear of public
• 34:53
  speaking. It causes intense anxiety and
• 34:55
  discomfort when speaking in front of others, often
• 34:58
  significantly impacting many aspects of life.
• 35:01
  People with glossophobia experience significant fear and
• 35:03
  anxiety when anticipating or facing public speaking
• 35:06
  situations. So I have a fear of public
• 35:09
  speaking, but it doesn't. I don't know, it doesn't.
• 35:13
  Stop you or inhibit you? It does a little bit actually.
• 35:16
  So what happens is for 24 hours prior to I know I have to speak,
• 35:24
  I'm I've got anxiety and I will start breathing heavier, not
• 35:30
  hyperventilate, but close to it. And when it gets closer and
• 35:33
  closer and closer, even though I've practiced whatever the
• 35:35
  speech might be, I am super fearful and I'm sweating and all
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  this happens. And I think it's truly the fear
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  of, of being in front of and being judged.
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  That's why this podcast, yeah. You're not judging me.
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  No, no, you're judge. Judges them, but not at me.
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  Not you. I think you're swell.
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  Swell. Yeah.
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  Oh God, I'm. Swell, so you don't do the whole
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  picture them in their underwear thing or naked or that.
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  Whole no it doesn't work. It doesn't work.
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  Yeah, I don't think that works either.
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  I think that's kind. Of you know, and I thought, you
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  know, you should conquer your fears, right?
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  Conquer your fears, try to to be a better person.
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  And So what did I do? I was in the choir at church and
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  I said, I'll be a Cantor and I'll go up in front of the
• 36:23
  entire congregation and I'll sing.
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  Oh, it didn't help my fear. I thought it would.
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  I thought, you're going to be comfortable with this.
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  You're going to do it. It's going to get better.
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  It just kept being more afraid of it at time.
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  And eventually I realized, hey, you don't.
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  You don't have to do. That yeah, yeah, best
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  intentions, but yeah, just just passed.
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  I tried hard pass. All right.
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  And lastly, we have what Rob mentioned earlier, claurophobia,
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  the fear of clowns, which I completely agree, creepy clowns,
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  psychological fear of clowns, which can stem from a
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  combination of factors, including the uncanny nature of
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  their appearance, the unpredictable nature of their
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  behavior, and the potential for hidden intent.
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  Clowns clown makeup can mask facial expressions, making it
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  difficult to decipher their true emotional state, which can be
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  unsettling. Their exaggerated features and
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  erratic actions also contribute to the sense of unease and
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  potential danger. Plus, I think all the horror
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  movies out there, right, you know, featuring clowns, Every
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  other one is a creepy clown. You know, they've got to play
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  into. Yeah, why this fear is for sure
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  is there. Every screen movie has a clown.
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  Why? Because they're creepy and
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  scary. They're.
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  Creepy and scary, but my gosh. But you remember when we were
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  little, Yeah. And clowns were a thing on TV
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  and they were always happy. And I can't remember Bozo, Bozo.
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  Yeah, yeah, they were always fun.
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  Yeah, everybody wanted to clown at their birthday party.
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  Maybe it's a sign of the times like 50s and clowns where
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  everybody loved clowns and then as you get to the 70s and 80s
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  and horror movies, then they all went right to shit.
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  Yeah. Right, all right, that's about
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  it for today everyone. Thanks for listening.
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  We'd love to hear from you. Oh, and one more thing, phobias
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  are intense, sometimes irrational, but don't let it get
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  so bad that you stop living your life.
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  Life is short, enjoy it. Yeah, enjoy it.
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  Yes, Bye everyone. Boo.
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