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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Braves Win & More Respect For the Panthers · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, Owen's Mac and Foe on your radio.
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  Speaker 2: Baby's listen ma free Mat Posh, Come on, Posh. This
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  Speaker 2: in mavreem team Bone. What's the fun? I can't go
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  Speaker 2: to work without listening as to Mac and Bone do
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  Speaker 2: it lit.
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  Speaker 3: We are doing it live on a Thursday. As Mac
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  Speaker 3: continues to sail the high seeds like a Deadliest Catch
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  Speaker 3: captain out there on a crew. Still no word from Mac.
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  Speaker 3: We'll try to figure out when do we start to
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  Speaker 3: worry about him here at some point video on board
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  Speaker 3: as my as my skipper running the ship over there.
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  Speaker 3: The Hornets defend their summer league title starting tonight. We
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  Speaker 3: have another panther in the NFL Top one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: the national title big ten sec or other.
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  Speaker 4: Where's it most likely to come from? Here?
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  Speaker 3: In this upcoming college football season? So so much to
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  Speaker 3: unpack here. Not a lot to recap yesterday, per se,
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  Speaker 3: But a big story that happened last night. The Braves
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  Speaker 3: beat the Pirates three nothing after a stalemate. They win
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  Speaker 3: late Josh Bart hits a two run homer. They tack
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  Speaker 3: on another. They beat the Pirates three nothing last night.
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  Speaker 3: But the big story of that game. Jared Jones of
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  Speaker 3: the Pirates had a perfect game at seventy seven pitches
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  Speaker 3: and got pulled from the game, and the crowd booed
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  Speaker 3: the reliever that came in.
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  Speaker 4: Pirates going to lose.
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  Speaker 3: The continued theme of these young pictures and happen on
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  Speaker 3: Sunday with the Marlins, these young pitchers getting pulled with
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  Speaker 3: either no hitters or perfect games.
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  Speaker 4: We will discuss that.
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  Speaker 3: Here momentarily, but first we want to say good morning
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  Speaker 3: to the station, the signal, the transmitter, the ratings book.
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  Speaker 4: Do I have them all there?
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  Speaker 2: I think you've got them all yet.
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  Speaker 3: The tower, We got them all there, Fitty Marlow, good
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  Speaker 3: morning to you, sir. Appreciate you being here yet again.
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  Speaker 3: Hold it down, man, Good morning bone. Hopefully the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the show goes better than the beginning. Played the
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  Speaker 3: hour three open instead of the hour one open. Don't
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  Speaker 3: know why that happened. Don't know how that happened. Just
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  Speaker 3: know that I'm human.
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  Speaker 5: That I may carry the station, and I may be
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  Speaker 5: the very backbone of the station, but I do make
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  Speaker 5: mistakes along the way.
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  Speaker 2: But hopefully that's only a mistake I make today.
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  Speaker 3: Can I have a confession here which might make you mad?
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  Speaker 3: Last week you got mad that Mac and I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know how to properly spell your last name and you
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  Speaker 3: got offended. I did not realize till this moment that
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  Speaker 3: you had opens for different hours.
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  Speaker 2: Well I don't.
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  Speaker 5: These have been the opens that Flounder created that are
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  Speaker 5: like the standard ones. Sometimes I make new opens for
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  Speaker 5: different shows, but we do have a standard show open,
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  Speaker 5: then an hour three open, and I played hour three
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  Speaker 5: at hour one today. But it'll be a good test
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  Speaker 5: for the I just make sure if they're listening to
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  Speaker 5: see if they caught the mistake.
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  Speaker 2: If not, that's a great job by me.
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  Speaker 3: No, bringing up the mistake is probably the mistake. When
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  Speaker 3: do you make a mistake here, you don't bring it up.
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned Mac off the top here, set Mac a
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  Speaker 3: text yesterday. Have not heard from him since Sunday, I believe,
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  Speaker 3: And I gotta tell you, this is the longest I've
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  Speaker 3: ever gone not talking to my guy here, and I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Starting to miss him.
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  Speaker 3: I sent him a text yesterday and it said quote
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  Speaker 3: I miss you, and it came back not delivered. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: just a shot to the heart. Now my guy's not
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  Speaker 3: seeing my text right now. Now, You also have not
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  Speaker 3: heard Have you heard from the family at all your
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  Speaker 3: house sitting for Max.
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  Speaker 5: There's been no correspondence from the McLean household, but I
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  Speaker 5: do believe because they're driving back tomorrow, so they do
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  Speaker 5: return to Orlando today. I don't know what the timestamp is.
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  Speaker 5: I would imagine that we hear from him at some
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  Speaker 5: point tonight. When he gets all the messages that he's missed,
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  Speaker 5: he'll probably want to do a check in on the dogs.
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  Speaker 5: I'd imagine we'll hear from Mac today at some point.
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  Speaker 5: And I ain't gonna lie. I've enjoyed doing the show
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  Speaker 5: with you this week. I've enjoyed the airtime. I'm ready
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  Speaker 5: for the chaos.
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  Speaker 4: I just need to know that he's okay. This is
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  Speaker 4: not a what's that old?
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  Speaker 3: What's the old book there where the family went missing
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  Speaker 3: and they ended up on an island? Is it Swiss
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  Speaker 3: Family Robinson?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't read that book.
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  Speaker 3: I never read it either, but it sounded right, So
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  Speaker 3: hopefully Mac is okay there. We will update if we
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  Speaker 3: do hear from him throughout the show. As mentioned off
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  Speaker 3: the top, Braves win three nothing on a late homer,
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  Speaker 3: but the pirates taking out Jarrett Jones with a perfect
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  Speaker 3: game not a no hitter seventy seven pitches. They took
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  Speaker 3: out a guy with the perfect game. It was Uri
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  Speaker 3: Perez for the Marlins on Sunday, taken out at ninety
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  Speaker 3: three pitches, also with a perfect game, Fitty.
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  Speaker 4: I when we've had.
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  Speaker 3: These come up before, and I think the Pirates were
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  Speaker 3: involved in this with its schemes a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I believe they've had this before where they pull guys
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  Speaker 3: with perfect games. I think it may have been Schiens.
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  Speaker 3: What's with somebody else? I I understand if you're if
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  Speaker 3: they're being careful with a no hitter, I have a
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  Speaker 3: problem at seventy seven pitches in a tie game, you
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  Speaker 3: taking out a guy with a perfect game. There has
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  Speaker 3: been twenty four perfect games in one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: one years of baseball. No hitters are special, but they're
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  Speaker 3: not rare. Perfect games are historic, only twenty four. Can
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  Speaker 3: you actually name Fitty the last guy to throw a
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  Speaker 3: perfect game?
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  Speaker 2: A perfect game?
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  Speaker 3: There's been one since twenty twelve. Can you remember who
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  Speaker 3: it was?
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  Speaker 1: It was?
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  Speaker 2: It Hermon from the Yankees.
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  Speaker 3: It was in twenty twenty three. I even forgot that
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  Speaker 3: he did it. He's been so nondescript that I even forgot.
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  Speaker 3: They threw it perfect and.
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  Speaker 2: It was against the A's. Was it on the West Coast?
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  Speaker 4: It was against the A's.
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  Speaker 3: And prior to that, Felix Hernandez and Matt Cain had
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  Speaker 3: the perfect games fourteen years ago. So yeah, twenty four,
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  Speaker 3: you know, one hundred and fifty one years. What are
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 4: Last night?
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  Speaker 3: Like, what what do you think about this? At seventy
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  Speaker 3: now youur reparats with at ninety three. Yeah, he's approaching
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  Speaker 3: that one hundred threshold for the Marlins. But at seventy seven,
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  Speaker 3: ty game, your guys rolling. You gotta let that guy
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  Speaker 3: go a little bit longer there.
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  Speaker 5: You would think. So this is the downside of bone.
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  Speaker 5: We live in an era in baseball where in a
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  Speaker 5: sport where numbers are everything, the number for pitchers is
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  Speaker 5: one hundred, and that's not how hard they can throw,
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  Speaker 5: how many pitches they can throw in a game.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like this generation.
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  Speaker 5: Their condition to once their arm gets to one hundred
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  Speaker 5: pitches done and they cannot throw anymore, and these managers
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  Speaker 5: do not want them throwing anymore. Last night, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when you're at seventy seven pitches. You're maybe on pace
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  Speaker 5: to throw one hundred and ten, maybe one hundred and fifteen.
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  Speaker 5: I think for a Pirates team, that's more than likely
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  Speaker 5: not going anywhere this year, more than likely depending on
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  Speaker 5: the trade get.
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  Speaker 4: They used to. Yeah, they're much.
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  Speaker 5: More competitive, they're they're a game above five hundred, but
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  Speaker 5: more than likely not going anywhere. That could have been
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  Speaker 5: something to give that player to remember for the season,
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  Speaker 5: you're fan base, something to remember for the season. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: that jump starts to your team when you get hot
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  Speaker 5: going into the All Star break.
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  Speaker 2: That one, to me is a.
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  Speaker 5: Little bit more egregious than what happened on Sunday with
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  Speaker 5: the Marlins, where you were already at ninety two pitches.
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  Speaker 5: You're probably looking at one hundred and fifteen pitches to
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  Speaker 5: get through the game. But it's just the message. It's
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  Speaker 5: not good for the game when you have individuals in
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  Speaker 5: this position to throw, to throw perfect games, not no hitters,
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  Speaker 5: not complete game shutouts, perfect games, and they're being robbed
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  Speaker 5: that opportunity. It's it's not good for baseball. And I
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  Speaker 5: don't know how baseball can fix it, Like you can't
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  Speaker 5: mandate these managers leave these guys in.
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  Speaker 2: But it's something that needs to be.
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  Speaker 5: Needs to be addressed because I think pre analytics, these
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  Speaker 5: guys are pitching until they give up a hit, no
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  Speaker 5: question about it.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, you're not taking out You think you're taking
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  Speaker 3: out Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens and Pedro with that
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  Speaker 3: era of pitchers, Maddox, You think you're taking out those
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  Speaker 3: guys that's seventy there's no way. First of all, even
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  Speaker 3: if they gave up hits, they weren't coming. They'd be
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  Speaker 3: in the game regardless anyway. So seventy seven to number
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  Speaker 3: that seems woe. Even if the guy was seventy seven
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  Speaker 3: just a low number to take out a guy. In general,
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  Speaker 3: you're taking away an historical moment in a career defining
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  Speaker 3: moment for a pitcher. No, hitters may not always be historical.
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  Speaker 3: We kind of often may forget about some of them,
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  Speaker 3: despite how special they are when they happen. But we
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  Speaker 3: will often tie in very rare. Do you not hear
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  Speaker 3: of a guy's name that through a perfect game from
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  Speaker 3: the guys we saw do it? There's something from back
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  Speaker 3: in the day. But when you say Felix Hernandez, you
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  Speaker 3: think perfect game. Matt Caine, I know perfect Game herman
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  Speaker 3: was the rarity of a journeyman that that did that.
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  Speaker 3: That that's a little bit odd. But for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: when you get perfect game attached to your name, that
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  Speaker 3: that's meaningful, that's historic, And to take away that chance,
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  Speaker 3: you're right, I just I do not get it. The
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  Speaker 3: other thing I don't get either, is this with the
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  Speaker 3: analytics in the the way they monitor the arms. Now
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  Speaker 3: in the pitch counts I see with the Yankees and
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  Speaker 3: all these teams I see is that if they get
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  Speaker 3: to one hundred or whatever, they're out of there. You
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  Speaker 3: got to take care of the arms. Then I see
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  Speaker 3: guys get hurt all the time. Yeah, I see pictures,
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  Speaker 3: whether they're young, whether they're old. For the Yankees right now,
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  Speaker 3: Rodin's out, Freed's out, Cole was out for a year
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  Speaker 3: and a half, Louise Heels hurt right now. In the minors,
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  Speaker 3: I see all these things happened, and these pitchcowns get monitored,
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  Speaker 3: and then I see guys get injured. So is it
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  Speaker 3: the pitchcown that's the problem or is it the the
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  Speaker 3: way guys are throwing? And for some guys, is it
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  Speaker 3: just a pure velocity when they're hitting that speed more
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  Speaker 3: so than the pitch. It's because we're monitoring the pitchcown,
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  Speaker 3: But yet all these dudes end up with Tommy John anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: or UCLs or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's just one of the great conversations that I
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  Speaker 5: think exists right now in baseball, Like, look how great
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  Speaker 5: Jacob Degram was one two side. Young's got even better.
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  Speaker 5: But you know at some point the arm was gonna
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  Speaker 5: give Valt. He's been fine in Texas. Hasn't been the
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  Speaker 5: same picture really since look at Misowski the ace for
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  Speaker 5: the Brewers. While we're enjoying him, what are we waiting
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  Speaker 5: for taking time bomb? We are waiting for Tommy John
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  Speaker 5: surgery to come his way.
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  Speaker 3: Mason Miller of the Padres comes in and now he's
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  Speaker 3: a bullpen guy. But it's not the amount of pitches.
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  Speaker 3: It's the fact that these us are throwing a hundred
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  Speaker 3: and three hundred four miles per hour.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and and part of it is like when you
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  Speaker 5: look at the de Grams, the Mizowskis, those guys generate
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  Speaker 5: velocity in a way that is effortless.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't look they're putting a whole lot into it.
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  Speaker 5: But you're still asking the arm in the elbow to
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  Speaker 5: do something that it wasn't constructed to do, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in terms of throwing a baseball at that angle, at
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  Speaker 5: that speed a repetitive amount of time. But you cannot,
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  Speaker 5: you cannot say that you're you're doing this for the
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  Speaker 5: betterment of the player, when more than likely Jared Jones,
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  Speaker 5: who's a young good picture of elbow surgery as is
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  Speaker 5: already coming off an injury. The messaging around Perez and
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  Speaker 5: the Marlins was the manager was while I was thinking
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  Speaker 5: about more than just today. Look, I know that franchise
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  Speaker 5: has won two World Series since my team, the Mets,
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  Speaker 5: won it last in nineteen eighty six.
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  Speaker 2: You're the Miami Marlins.
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  Speaker 5: All you have is today, Like, yeah, you might be
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  Speaker 5: good this year and they might make the they might
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  Speaker 5: make the playoffs and get beating the wildcard round. But
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  Speaker 5: don't see her an at like you're protecting this kid
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  Speaker 5: for the long term future.
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  Speaker 2: When you're not.
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  Speaker 5: You're probably trading that guy more more often than not
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  Speaker 5: in the next handful of years, just because that's what
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  Speaker 5: the Marlins do.
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  Speaker 2: I just think.
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  Speaker 5: There's gotta be a better way, Like I would much
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  Speaker 5: rather have my guy skip his next start because I
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  Speaker 5: exhausted his arm, letting him try to chase perfection, trying
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  Speaker 5: to chase a moment, then to hand my game over
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  Speaker 5: to the bullpen, to watch my bullpen blow the game
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  Speaker 5: and have my fan base pissed off at me as
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  Speaker 5: they're leaving the ballpark.
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  Speaker 3: No, by the way, you lost the game last night,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what happens. What happened to the point you
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  Speaker 3: lost the game. So it's one thing you can say,
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  Speaker 3: all right, well, we're gonna monitor whatever. You still lost
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  Speaker 3: the game. So do you do you care about a
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  Speaker 3: pitcher that I mean, you don't even know exactly what
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  Speaker 3: his future may be for you down the line, Or
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  Speaker 3: do you care about winning a baseball I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying don't care about the players, but you caring
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  Speaker 3: so much about that moment there. You also lost the
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  Speaker 3: baseball games. And let's also not act like that's one
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  Speaker 3: of those I'm glad the braves one. That's one of those.
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  Speaker 3: You deserve to lose that game.
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  Speaker 2: Last night, and this whole combined no hitter thing.
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  Speaker 5: No, to me, that's not a There should be a
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  Speaker 5: separate category as to how we we track those like
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  Speaker 5: the Mets have thrown two no hitters in their franchise history.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, have been combined no hit a couple of times.
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  Speaker 5: One was Johann Santana, and if replay would have existed
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  Speaker 5: in baseball, wouldn't have been no hitter because the Cardinals
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  Speaker 5: would have gotten a hit down the third baseline. The
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  Speaker 5: other one was a combined no hitter where three different
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  Speaker 5: guys pitched in the game.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean as much.
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  Speaker 2: I view it as a complete game shutout, not yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you may have given up no hits, but you used
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  Speaker 2: three or four different pictures to do so.
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  Speaker 5: We see bullpens. Bullpens are designed to come in and
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  Speaker 5: not give them as many hits, not give them as
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  Speaker 5: many runs. So like whenever that happens, I don't celebrate
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  Speaker 5: it like I and I don't think that baseball should
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  Speaker 5: celebrate it. It's also concerning bone that we got a
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  Speaker 5: perfect game as deep as we got to yesterday into
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  Speaker 5: the sixth inning, and I didn't get nothing on my
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  Speaker 5: phone about it like I have. I have the MLB
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  Speaker 5: app where I get updates for about my team and
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  Speaker 5: stuff around the league, including the team I hate the most.
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  Speaker 5: The Atlanta Braves. I got nothing about an end game
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  Speaker 5: perfect and then and then progress perfect game.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even get a CS one either, And he
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  Speaker 4: was in the ninth inning yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I know I knew in the eighth inning because I
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  Speaker 2: think I think ESPN sent something out.
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  Speaker 4: I missed that one. Yeah, So I think I think
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  Speaker 4: if you're.
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  Speaker 5: Perfect through six, it's probably time to start talking about it.
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  Speaker 5: Baseball app update your social media. That should have been
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  Speaker 5: on a day where there was nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Going on in the sports world. The World Cup took
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  Speaker 2: the day off.
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  Speaker 5: You're winding down at Wimbledon. We're not yet into football mode.
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  Speaker 5: That could have been the highlight of the sports world.
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  Speaker 5: It's a good thing that it wasn't because they took
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  Speaker 5: the guy out. But I wasn't even made aware that
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  Speaker 5: there was a perfect game going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were close to too yesterday. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: stay close with the Pirates. There's a long way to go,
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  Speaker 3: but we had two yesterday. Dylan Seas against Toronto was
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  Speaker 3: into the ninth ending yesterday. I heard a think it
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  Speaker 3: was Jeff Passing or maybe and Buster only actually on
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  Speaker 3: before us here on ESPN Radio. He was talking about
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  Speaker 3: the difference in Uri Perez and Jared Jones of the Pirates,
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  Speaker 3: Ury Pretz of the Marlins, and Dylan Cez yesterday, Dylan
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  Speaker 3: Seas has been paid. He's already got his money. He's
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  Speaker 3: a VET, so they're more willing to let him go
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  Speaker 3: deep into the game. But I mean it's still an
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even if Dylan Ceas has been paid, it's
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  Speaker 3: still an investment, that isn't I don't know, don't. I
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  Speaker 3: don't really know if that correlates or not. But last night,
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  Speaker 3: the Braves do get a much to three to nothing
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  Speaker 3: win over the Pirates. The Marlins do keep pace. They
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  Speaker 3: beat the Mariners to nothing. The Braves did pick up
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  Speaker 3: a game on the Phillies. They lost to the red
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  Speaker 3: seven to five. So right now the standings are in
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  Speaker 3: the NLS to Braves lead both the Phillies and the
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  Speaker 3: Marlins by three games. Marlins have won five in a row.
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  Speaker 3: We were talking about the Phillies catching the Braves. They've
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  Speaker 3: done a good job in getting close to them. But
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  Speaker 3: the Marlins just I mean, you said, you know, you're
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  Speaker 3: the Marlins, but you know, every once in a while
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  Speaker 3: they do rear their head up. And right now the
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  Speaker 3: Marlins wat of young talent have played well when we
• 16:36
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• 16:48
  Speaker 4: We come back. Nick s.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Gordon gets some love from a national media member, con talks, Hornets,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: fan fests has been announced, and another Panther makes the
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: NFL Top one hundred. It's a dynasty bruin right here
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: on Sports Radio ninety two seven WFZ, Welcome back.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: In mackin Bone Show. First segment.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: A lot of baseball chatter there in how teams are
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: handling young pitchers when it comes to no hitters and
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: perfect games based off what happened last night in the
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Braves Pirates game. But we do have a lot of
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: news and notes from a local variety, including Ben Solak
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: of ESPN, who has come up a lot here recently,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: some of it not necessarily positive. In talking about guys
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: like Devin Woyd, he named his Panther breakout performer for
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: this upcoming season. It's not a shock to us because
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I think we've all kind of had this guy on
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: our radar screen. Fitty Nick Scording's name comes up so
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: much we almost have to take him out of the
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: breakout performer because we're all eyeing up Nick Scoring right now.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: That was Ben Solac's guy, but he's been everybody's guy here.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: And it makes a lot of sense because the way
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: that t Mac exploded on the scene last year, Like
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: if t Mac wasn't the offensive rookie of the year
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: bone and let's say maybe he was in the seven
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: to eight hundred yard receiving range, I think there'd be
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: like a debate between those two guys.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: That's not what happened.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: T Mac established himself as as wide receiver one for
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Breshung and this Carolina Panthers offense. I think one naturally progression,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: natural progression for Scording. We expect there to be more
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: production a full offseason in the league. Will continue to
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: work on his body, adding a swim move or two
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: to be able to rush the quarterback. Also, who benefits
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: more from the addition of Jalen Phillipson than this guy?
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Like maybe so I think that I think that could
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: also play a part in this, which is it gets
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: confusing when he gets a lot of love from the
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: national media. When some people maybe don't necessarily love the
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: moves that the Panthers made, bringing in Phillips, bringing in
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd to.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Bolster that front seven.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: But he just right up there with Derek Brown benefits
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: as much as having a legitimate pass rusher on the
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: opposite side of him.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: The guy that's not talked about a lot, and they
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: were talked about in equal realms a year ago. Is
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Princely's name is not brought up. And I get it,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm the same way, But I do wonder if
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: you know, in terms of impact, Princely is kind of
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: flying under the radar. He may not have the full
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: impact of scording, but I do wonder if there will
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: be times this year where Princely comes in, shout out
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: of a cannon and does make some plays. Also kind
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: of not talked about a lot. Is Princely in your
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: number two?
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: And part of that has to do with bone. He's
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: not talking as much as Algon. We haven't gotten the
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: camp just yet. We know that Princely's a bit of
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: a care Didn't he say he's not gonna tweet till
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: he makes the Pro Bowl?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Wasn't that?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Didn't that come out a couple of weeks ago, I
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: believe so, I think that happened something of that nature.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: But if you remember the conversation at the at the
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: end of the year that we had around him, was
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: him being critical of a verro in the lack of
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: past rush at different points in time where he said
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: it's not the player's fault. He was basically blaming the coaching.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: But I do think he's also poised to take a
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: step forward because but I just think this this front
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: seven is as talent. It's talented, it's deep, it's it's versatile,
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: like Avero has as much to work with as as
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: as he's had during his entire time here.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And that's with the loss of Ashan Robinson.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: That's the thing that I look at and say, Now,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: if they would have kept Ashan, you probably don't have
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: Lee Hunter here. But you lose a Sean, you bring
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Lee Hunter in who was underrated, and that the front
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: seven of that EXAC defense last year for the Red Raiders.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I think this front seven, I mean, is it as
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: good as it's been since Prime those defenses under under
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Rivera that had you know, you had you had TD
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: and you had Luke, but look what you had up
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: front with Charles Johnson, Starr and those guys, I don't
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I don't want to put them in that same category
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: because we have to see the production.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: But this, I think is as good as it's been
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: since then. In my opinion, I'm with you. It depends
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: on guys like Scordon. You know, we're assuming he makes
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: that lead, but we have to see it. So what
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: does Gorton do? We know what DB's gonna do, but
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Scordon's a guy. Hey, if he makes that leap? Yeah,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: what about the spot next to Derrick Brown? You know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: I've said it before, I compared to one hundred of
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Brentson Buckner of the early two thousands teams, because there's
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: a lot of star power up front. Back then, it
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: was Chris Jenkins, it with Mike Rucker, it was Julius Peppers.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: But what brought it all together was the young son
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: nature of what Brentson Buckner did. You're gonna have Derek
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: Brown up there, You're gonna have Jaywin Phillips. We think
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: s Gorton could be an emerging Maybe he's the Mike
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: Rutger of the operation. We'll see, But does Lee Hunter
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: end up becoming that sort of dirty war guy? That
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: maybe doesn't get the accolades of the high priced star guys.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Does he become that guy? And all if s Gorton
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and Lee Hunter? Whoever's next? Maybe it's Bobby Brown, I
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: don't know. But whoever is in those those two spots
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: that are Brown and Phillips, what do they do and
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: if they play well? Man, oh man, it could be
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: really passionate. And same thing with the other linebacker opposite
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: of Devin Lloyd.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Bobby Brown. That's the thing. Look at the
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: names that we haven't got to.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: I know, Turk Wharton's injured again, but if what could
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: he be when fully healthy? What can Pat Jones be
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: when fully healthy? I thought last year early on he
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: was as timely a playmaker on that front four as
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: there was while the defense was kind of finding it's
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: footing in the first month, month and a half of
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: the season. Can Cam Jackson be prepared to maybe be
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: a rotation guy more so than he was a year ago.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: That's that's the thing is. You know, Dan Morgan credit him.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: This front office, they've they've added the two things you
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: got to have to win up front in this league.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: You gotta have talent and you've got to have depth,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: and injuries are gonna happen. That's just part of the
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: physical nature of the sport. In a seventeen game season,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: attrition is part of it. But I think that front,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: that defensive line room is as best equipped to handle
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that attrition as they've been since Dan Morgan Dave Canalis
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: took over here in Carolina.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Some more Panther news and notes right now. Brady Christiansen
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: talked to this Charlotte Observer. He has been cleared, so
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: while he remains a free agent, we expect maybe some
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: movement on him at some point soon. I know Mack
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: has talked heavily about bringing him back and that utility
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: swing depth role that this team sorely needs. VIDI are
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: you in for bringing Brady Christiansen back? Although ESPA did
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: list the offensive line as a strength of the team
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: the other day, You know how this operates. With the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: offensive line, you can go from a straight to a
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: weakness pretty quickly. So for a guy that's been here,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: it always seems to be willing to do whatever the
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: team needs. He's a team first guy, but he does
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: have a lot of injuries. He's missed multiple years now.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Won a couple of years ago, first game against Atlanta,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: the recent injury. I like Brady Christensen, but he also
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: has not held up his body here.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: He hasn't, but that should make him cheaper to sign.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Like for as versatile as he is, I don't think
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: he's going to be in a position to demand a
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: lot of money because he can't stay healthy. Like he
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: may have to sign a deal that is very similar
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: to Walkers, where kind of a one year prove it deal.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Maybe he moves on somewhere else next year, maybe he
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: stays healthy. The Panthers decided to maybe invest in him
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: for outside of a year. It just on the surf postpone.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: It makes too much sense for him to not be
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: here right, So maybe they're just waiting to get to
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: training camp, make it all the formality. But I think
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if at some point he's not added
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: to this fifty three man roster.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: We will certainly monitor that. Who knows fitty We may
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: see b C. Brady Christenson at fan Fest because that
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: date's been announced. July thirty first will be the annual
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: event for the Panthers. You can see the whole schedule,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the gates and teams were opened at five. The actual
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: practice itself begins at seven thirty. Fireworks, laser shows, all
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: that good stuff. We had a good time out there
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: last year. I was thinking, though, you know, Ma's eventually
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: going to bring up that he may want to go,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: But I think, Fitty, we send up an advance where
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you and I go, but we invite all of the
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Texters that either a noy Mack or could annoy Mac.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: So what if it's me, you big boppy bagel guy,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Myron Goodman, schack Ed Bartol. What if we set up
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: all these guys to sit up with Mac there and
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: you and I just go sit somewhere else.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: It would be really fun to just people watch Mac
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: in that environment. He would be at the he'd be
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: going back to get IPA's more than he'd be there
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: to watch the team practice and do whatever they're going
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: to do in the scrimmage. But it was a fun
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: night last year, and you'd have to imagine with them,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: with practice not being open in training camp this year,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: that they'll put on a little bit more than maybe
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: they typically would, just to give fans a reason to
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: show up, show out.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I plan on going.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I expect to go and I would be all down
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: to prank Mac where we tell them we've got him
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: ticket secure to sit with us, but instead he has
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: to semend two and a half three hours on a
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Friday night with people that annoy him on a daily base.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Do you imagine sitting for three hours with Bebop at
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: an event that?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: To me?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, you might as well just go ahead and
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: write me on fire. I mean, let's be honest about it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: So that is July thirty first fan Fest. Make your plans.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: There some big panther news yesterday in the list world.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: We've been trying to wonder, Hey, when will j C.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Horn appear on the NFL Player's Top one hundred list.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: He yesterday became panther number four, Bryce Young, Derek Brown,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: T Mac, and now JC Horn cracks the list. By
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: the way, the list will never end because we're only
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: at number. We're only at number the way they're doing
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: it now, it's like a couple of day we are
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: only at number seventy.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Seventy.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: We'll get seventy. He was seventy six.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: We're at seventy five five we are this thing may
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: go into Thanksgiving time at this point.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: But J C.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Horn does check in a number seventy six. You know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I think we believe that Derek Brown were surprised that
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Bryce made the list. First of all, I didn't think
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: he'd make the players list good respect, I wasn't sure
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: if t Mack would make it. After one year, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: think obviously he will be on this list going forward.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Derek Brown was too low, but he didn't make the list,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: which previous years he did not j C. Hord seventy six.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I think we.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Believe that both Brown and Horn are probably ultimately higher
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: than that. I am happy they made the list, but
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: knowing the way that J. C. Hord operates and Derek
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Brown operates, they're not going to be happy. Of They're
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: happy they made the list, but I guarantee you those
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: guys are going to look at every other guy in
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: their position that's on this list and be pissed off
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after happy.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: But they won't be happy.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I think, especially Derek Brown, who just continues to be
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: as undervalued as any player in the National Football League.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I'd probably flip him in JC in these rankings, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: I would argue that Derek Brown is still better than
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: the seventy sixth best player in the National Football League.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: But this is what happens when you win the type
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: of games this franchise one a year ago, getting to
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: win at Green Bay, getting a win over the Rams,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: making the playoffs. It's it's gonna be hard to disrespect
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: the roster that does have talent. And now you're seeing
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: that in this top twenty or this top one hundred list,
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: where now we've seen four Carolina Panthers in the first
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: twenty five players or so. It's probably it for guys
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: that wore the uniform last year, because we know Devin
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Lloyd is going to make this list at some point.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: But I just I don't get why. For as much
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: as the NFL gets right Baseball, by the way, why
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: did they get rid of the Sunday night show where
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: they would unveil the list over ten weeks and you
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: got to see ten players go from one hundred down
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: to one. Like there's this time of the year there's
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: not a whole lot to watch. You put it on
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Sunday night at nine o'clock and for an hour we
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: get to see this list get unveiled across ten weeks
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: as we get closer and closer to the start of training.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Can NFL plus media app right? So they to a
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: day right? I have no idea who asked for that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Who I used to record that show and go back
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: and watch it like it was a part of like
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: how I would gear up for the next season, learn
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: about a couple of guys that I didn't get to
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: maybe watch during the year, and I would kind of
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: track how these guys compared year over year.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Now we're just doing to a day's. I thought we
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: got rid of to a day's. Can we just go
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: back to the way that it used to be.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I'm also having trouble keeping track when they dropped, because
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, one will drop. But I didn't
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: realize it was like ten o'clock in the morning. Yeah,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: like Horn dropped and I didn't even realize. It wasn't
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: even like a big deal. And I think that it
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: should be a bigger deal. Two things with Horn that
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: are important that they bring up in the write up
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: on NFL dot Com. Solve one hundred last year. Did
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: play last year in a career high sixteen games. That's
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: always been the question, can he stay healthy? He did
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: last year, also had five picks. Last year he had
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: a career high and we know that a lot of
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: stuff when it involves these things does end up with
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: highlight plays. And before even though he was shutting guys down,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: putting a seatboat on people, never had a lot of
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: picks well when he plays in games, and now he's
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: getting interception, that's going.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: To lead to more stuff like this.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, we know he's great, but unfortunately sometimes much like
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Sacks with Darrick Brown, yep t T's with Horne, they're
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: they're impactful no matter what.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: But this is all about the highlight place.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: You're listening to Mac and Bone show right now, Fiddy
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and Bone holding it down here, Let's talk hornets momentarily
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: because yesterday on the Crazy Cast a Duke podcast Konkin Nipple, Fiddy,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: would you say that he he spoke about the trades
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: kind of, but he danced around it a little bit.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: He didn't really because here's the thing that Walker was
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: explaining to us yesterday. There's a lot of moving parts
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: in these multiple team trades. In one of the guys
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: involved in the Nets Timberwolves trade, Muhammad uh Muhammad Ghee, right,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I believe it was, Yeah, he has a he has
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a trade restriction until today. So that's why it's not
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: medical hold ups. Like my initial reaction was, are they
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: not announcing these because something happened?
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: It's not that. And all these moving parts.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: One guy has a restriction, So that's why they have
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: an announced yet the LaMelo trade, for example. But con
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: did speak yesterday on the movement kind of and the
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: direction of the Charon Hornets franchise on the Crazy Cast.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: You know, definitely definitely a change, you know, I think
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: for fans it's a little tough just with like, man,
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: we saw some success and you know, we kind of
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: saw it with that team, and I think the front
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: office made the decision like, man, we don't maybe we
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: don't see this long term. So they weren't they weren't.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: I don't know if it's weren't convinced is the right word.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: But just like I want to move in a different direction,
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: and so like you know, as a player, you just
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: kind of got to business as usual. You got to
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: move forward and keep getting better. But we're definitely gonna,
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: you know, have to play a little differently than last year. Obviously,
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: were just different personnel. So I don't know, I like
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: the I like the group we got coming in I'm excited.
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: We got shooters at the Wazoo, so that'll that'll be fun.
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: And yeah, I think I think we got We've got
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: a good team, Like I feel like we can we
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: can build off what we what we did last year,
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: and you know, just keep getting better. I think that's
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: the focus for us is as individuals, just keep getting
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: better each day working on our games. But going forward,
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: I feel feel good about where you know, we are
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: at as an organization.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: First of all, I don't know if you want anything
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: shooting got your your ja zoo. That seems like that
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: might be a medical problem that I think Mac has
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: had before. Fitty I didn't realize until I heard it again.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Con went to because he didn't want to just say
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: outright who was dealt. Con went to every possible cliche
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: that he had to book there. He used everything he
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: had there to talk about the by not talking about
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: the traits it's he even used I mean, you use
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: when you use the term wazoo, you're you're coaching it's.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I find it as annoying as it can be for
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: what we do.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: I find it impressive when you got these kids or
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: these young adults that are so well trained like he
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: he went to Duke, he went to the Saban school.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: He has learned how to how to say absolutely nothing
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: while talking. For that was a minute in twelve second.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: And we got, We really got and he didn't say anything, but.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: He just talked for I mean, I remember Nick Wolse
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: used to play the game say Less, and it was
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: always McCaffrey and Darnoll who would played sound bites of
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: who would say nothing in like fifteen to twenty second
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: sound bites. We just spoke for a minute and a
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: half and said absolutely nothing.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: That's why the Hornets probably didn't care if he's good
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: to talk and they're like, watch this guy out.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Here, he's giving it nothing, Like what if he got
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: fined for that?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: The lead he's like, no, you can't say those words,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: and he's like, I didn't say anything at all. That
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: was Conki Nipple there on the Crazy Cast really telling
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: us a lot of words. What did you learn from
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: that nothing? You're right, that's almost more impressive than just
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: telling us how he really feels.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I do think though, that bone this does bring us
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: back to a conversation.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: I think we have a lot of times in the
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: off season around the NBA the league has to start
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: doing a better job communicating why, Like we were all
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: waiting on Monday the LaMelo ball trade.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Speak at some point, please my God Almighty.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Like you know, we always complain about the draft night
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: where they're wearing the different hats and they don't they're
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: representing one team but getting traded to another. This is
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: also a part that I think it's confusing to the
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: average fan. If you live in the NBA space and
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: you're familiar with how their league operates, like Walker is.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Walker is not concerned as to why there wasn't nothing
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: coming down on Monday. But if you're a diehard Hornets
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: fan that was waiting for Monday to become official, waiting
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: for Jeff Peterson to talk, and it's Thursday and neither
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: one of those two things have happened, Well, it's because
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: you're waiting on this random player at a five team
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: trade for his trade kicker to kick in. Yes, that
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: stuff needs to be communicated to better educate the fan.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Also, if they if someone spoke about it, what's the
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: worst that could happen? The trade gets rescinded, and like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: what what what's going to happen? If Sam Farber talks
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: about the trade or like what, Yeah, I.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Didn't realize that NBA trades were as secretive as the
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Epstein files.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know. We know more about the Epstein
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Files as the NBA trades. So my gracious almighty excuse
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: my language. When we come back. Big NASCAR Race on
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Sunday night in primetime on TNT at Echo Park in Georgia,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: or as some call in Atlanta. Adam Alexander joined us
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: yesterday to preview the race and talk about the season
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: as a whole. You're gonna hear a few minutes of
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: that coming back on Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Welcome back to.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: The Mac and Bone Show here on a Thursday, getting
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: you through to the end of the week. We will
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: get Mac back next week. Had some sad news in
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: the music entertainment world break this morning. Iconic singer Bonnie
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Tyler has passed away at the age of seventy five.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Of course, we all know her from her hit song
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty three that topped the charts totally Eclips
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: of the Heart, very famous song that we all know
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: in thoughts and prayers to Bonnie Tyler.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Who passed away at seventy five years old.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Yesterday we had the chance to talk to Adam Alexander,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: who is the lead voice of Amazon and TNT's NASCAR coverage,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: about some guys struggling this year, the state of the sport,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: the future of some of these specialized events like San Diego.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: But we started with this weekend's race at Echo Park
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: and Georgia and what makes the Atlanta Raise so special.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: It's so unique and one of the things that I
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: love about NASCAR in general, and the tracks that really
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: mean a lot to me and the ones that I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: look forward to going to are the ones that are
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the most unpredictable, and I would say that Atlanta checks
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: all the boxes in that regard. And ever since they
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: made the change and made it a drafting track in
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, they repaved it, they reconfigured it. It's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: now a part of that drafting group with Daytona and Talladega.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: But what makes it so special and unique is that
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you just don't have the time for those drivers to
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: make decisions like you do it Daytona and Talladega. You
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: just have to get after it, make quick decisions, and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: it puts a lot of pressure on them. And so
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the entertainment value to have a drafting style track at
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: a mile and a half venue makes it very unique
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and different. And you know, it's starting to weather a
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: little bit, so handling is becoming an issue. And then
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: when you race there in this summer starts getting a
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: little bit slicker, and so the drivers face that form
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: of adversity as well. So this place is just awesome,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and I think what we'll have Sunday night, It'll be
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: really special.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: One thing that surprised me on your broadcast the other day,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I hadn't known it's been a while. I did not
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: realize that Kyle Warson has it won? What is it
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: since May of twenty twenty five? Is that accurate that
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: it's been that long? A's Kyle Arson.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Wonty wow, forty three races?
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: What's going on with him? And do you think that, Hey,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: eventually this dude's going to break through here.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt he's going to break through. And I
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: would say you have to put an asterisk on the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: windless Streak because in that same amount of time he
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: collected the championship last fall last November at Phoenix, right,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: So it's like he hasn't won, but they did everything
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: they needed to do throughout the playoffs last year to
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: collect the championship, and I would say that when you
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: look at where they are in the points, what they've
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: been able to do throughout races, leading laps, collecting stage
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: points and all of that, they have put themselves in
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: a great position. Chevy went to a new body in
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six and no one really knew how the
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: manufacturer would react to that, and it's taken them some
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: time to get everything figured out. But Larson has been
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the one that's carried the ball for the manufacturer and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: so far for Hendrick Motorsports. And while they haven't won,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: they are still very much in the game when you
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: think about where you need to be positioned for the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: reset once we get to September and he goes to
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: defend his title. So they have it won, they've been
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: top five and like five of the last seven races,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: they're at a good points position. It's a matter of time,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: but I still think they are an enormous threat once
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: we get to September to defend this championship.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Another guy who I've been surprised at really the lack
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: of success compared to you visual here in twenty twenty
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: six and I keep trying to bet on him, at
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: him every week and it's not working out for me.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: And that's Joey Wigano. What's gone on with his team
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: here this year? And how surprised are you that his
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: struggles have lasted as long as they have here end
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: of the season.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: That's one that's been a real head scratcher. And when
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you look at Team Tenski, they have just had a
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: hard time. I would say Ford in general, but tem
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Tenski has been the one that's been the most shocking.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: It just their inaability organizationally to find speed. Ryan Blainey
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: has done a really good job of nickel and diming
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: it and finding his way to good finishes and scoring
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: stage points and keeping himself in the game. It's been
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a bigger challenge for Austin Sindric and Joey Logano. And
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Joey Logano is the one that's always going to create
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the headlines when the speed is not there, because he's
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: won three championships and you just anticipate he's going to
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: be a part of the equation. But they've just had
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: a hard time getting their arms around it. In twenty twenty. Now.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Having said that, we've gone to a lot of race
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: tracks where if you don't have speed, you're compromised, And
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I would say that one of the things that Team
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Pinsky has hung their hat on is being good in
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the draft. Short track program is in a decent place.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: So when you look at these last seven races to
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: finish out the regular season, there's a lot of places
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you feel like they can overcome some of the problems
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: that they've had and start to get it going in
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: the right direction. They're going to have a hard time
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: winning a championship just because once we get to the reset,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: they're not going to be in a good spot to
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: get there. But I do feel like they can make
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: their way into the chase based on the tracks we
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: have left and what he's done historically at these venues.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: That's the voice of Adam Alexander. He is the voice
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: of NASCAR on Amazon and currently the TNT portion of
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: the schedule. Adam, how close do you think the Chevies
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: are to competing week in week out with the dominant toyotas.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Well? We started to see another step, I believe Sunday
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: evening at Chicago. You know, we talked about Kyle Larson.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: William Byron wins both stages, leads over ninety laps. That
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: was as good a performance as he's had in twenty
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: twenty six. You know, Alex Bowman spent time out of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the race car, but you know he's kind of come
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: back last couple of weeks. He's top ten was good
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: at Sonoma. They showed a lot of speed over the
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: weekend at Chicago. You have to point certainly to Chase Elliott.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: You know, he's been the one that at some of
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: these conventional racetracks has been able to go out and
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: win this year. You know, he did an outstanding job
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: at Texas. They had a great strategy at Martinsville. So
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Chase Elliott is someone that has done a good job
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: as well. And you have to give a lot of
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: credit to Spire. You know, Spire is an organization has
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: really gone through some growth. Daniel Suarez winning the Coke
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: six hundred, Carson Joseovar wanted the draft at Talladegg and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the kids always making headlines. So Chevy across the board
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: has done some good things. Shameevan Gisbergen on the road
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and I feel like we're starting to see them take
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: some steps as we head toward the chase to be
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: in position to make a splash.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Adam Martin.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Martin had to tweet up recently about six of the
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: last seven races being sellouts. He pointed to the point
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: system being a reason why that's the case. How much
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: are you putting into that that notion that, hey, this
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: point system is putting people in the seats right now?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, there's been a decent
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: amount of twenty twenty six where you sent some of
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the momentum that is there is a flashback to what
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: we've seen in years gone by, and I would say that,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: you know, the point system certainly is a contributing factor.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: But I just think that there's a whole lot going
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: on in this sport right now. Depth of competition, you know,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the unknowns, we've had some new winners. All of that
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to me points toward you know, we're starting to see
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: some things that we hadn't seen in a while. And
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the sixth sellouts in the last seven years is awesome,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and you know, this point system will be interesting. And
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I've always been one of those that let's not judge,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: you know, good or bad. Let's not judge until we
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: get to the end of the line and we finished
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: this thing out, and the way it sets up right
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: now and what we've seen at the front for the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: regular season championship between Denny Hamlin and Tyler Reddick has
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: been a lot of fun. I think once we get
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to reset, it'll be very, very competitive once we begin
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: to chase at Darlington. But right now there's no denying
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that it's been a good thing and the fans right
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: now are really embracing the sport.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Adam I love the San Diego race, the backdrop, the
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: racing I thought was great.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: The ability to pass on that course, I thought it
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: was awesome.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Any rumblings on what could be next when NASCAR Venture's out,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: We've seen in Chicago, We've seen San Diego, Equornado, any
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: other any other spots here in the future we could
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: look at for a race like that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like right now the conversation in that regard
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: centers around will we go back and do San Diego again?
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: More so than what's next. I've not really heard, you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: what's on the horizon. I know NASCAR would would like
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: to step outside the US and race. There's been some
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: conversation about Montreal at some point coming on to the
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: schedule to last year we went to Mexico City, so
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: we'll see if something pans out in that regard. But
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the San Diego event was one of the coolest things
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that NASCAR has ever done. I was out there last
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: sprint when it was first being talked about. I was
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: out there last summer when they made the announcement, and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this has got a chance to be unbelievable,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and having been there and experienced it, it was even
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: beyond the expectations that I had. I would love to
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: see that happen again because I'm like you, I thought
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: it was going to be a venue thing. It turned
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: out it was not just an unbelievable venue and backdrop,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: but the racing was awesome. So hopefully we'll get another
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: crack at that there.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: He is the voice of NASCAR on Amazon and TNT
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Adam Alexander one of the really good dudes in the
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: sport to talk to and get to know the last
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: couple of years. When we come back, I know Fiddy
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: always likes this topic. If you could have one guaranteed
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: win for your pro and college team this upcoming season,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: what is it? Only one for each that's it. Unless
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: you have multiple teams by some of us do, then
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: you could have one for those teams, but pick your win.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ