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184. Countess Constance Markievicz - Revolutionary Woman · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: like I'm probably gonna be asking some of my kids friends,
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Speaker 1: You're thinking, Kerry quite your jibbl jabba, in fact me,
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Speaker 1: in fact you I will. But first we've got to
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Speaker 1: get our source on. Our sources are. A woman's place
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Speaker 1: is in the Cabinet Women Ministers in the Irish Government
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Speaker 1: nineteen nineineteen twenty nineteen by May of McNamara, British National
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Speaker 1: Archives Wo. Three five slash two one one. Constance Markovitch
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Speaker 1: by Shan of Whelan, The Rebel Countess, The Life and
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Speaker 1: Times of Constance Markovitch by Anne Marco Constant Markovich, The
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Speaker 1: People's Countess by Joe McGowan. The Irish Republic by Dorothy McCardell.
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Speaker 1: And of course we have our old favorites, History dot
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Speaker 1: com and biography dot com. I use it in comfortably good,
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Speaker 1: then lead's begin. I use it in comfortably good, then
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Speaker 1: let's begin Today. I'm talking about a woman who was
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Speaker 1: many things, an aristocrat, a revolutionary, a shopsital, a political prisoner.
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Speaker 1: And I'm frankly someone who was an absolute nightmare for
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Speaker 1: the British authorities. The one, the only, Countess Constance Markovitch.
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Speaker 1: And before we get started, listen, if you're Irish, you
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Speaker 1: know who this is. If you haven't heard who this is,
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Speaker 1: I do not know how. If you're not Irish, you
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Speaker 1: may not have heard her name, but sometimes you may
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Speaker 1: have known her, like anyone who has heard of or
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Speaker 1: may know her as just like the countess who did
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Speaker 1: that rebellion, you know what I mean, which is technically
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Speaker 1: correct but also wildly undertelling of the chaos see. Countess
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Speaker 1: Markovich was a woman who looked at the British Empire,
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Speaker 1: which at the time was basically the most powerful empire
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Speaker 1: on the planet, and said, you know, basically, I think
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna rebel, and not only rebel, but organize and
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Speaker 1: fight and run soup kitchens and command troops. And I
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Speaker 1: am getting ahead of myself. So let's go back a
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Speaker 1: wee bit. Constance Markovich was born Constance Jean gore Booth
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Speaker 1: on the fourth of February eighteen sixty eight in Buckingham
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Speaker 1: Gate in London. This was in England, London, England. She
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Speaker 1: was born to Sir Henry Gore Booth and Georgina gore Booth,
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Speaker 1: but she grew up mostly in Sligo, so County Sligo,
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Speaker 1: which is in Ireland, and she stayed at the family
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Speaker 1: estate in Lisadell House. Her sister Eva Gorebooth would be
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Speaker 1: born two years later. So her father, Sir Henry Gorboth,
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Speaker 1: was a wealthy Anglo Irish landlord and baronet. He was
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Speaker 1: also a well known Arctic explorer, which means that Constant
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Speaker 1: grew up in the kind of a house where the
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Speaker 1: ceilings were high, the gardens were absolutely massive, and there
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Speaker 1: were probably more horses than people. However, and this is
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Speaker 1: unusual for the time, but her parents were actually quite
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Speaker 1: socially conscious. So like during the famine of eighteen seventy nine,
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Speaker 1: now not in Gorton more so that was before so
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Speaker 1: people think there was just one famine. That there wasn't
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Speaker 1: just one famine. There was a couple one of them,
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Speaker 1: like the worst is in Gorton, Moore. And I never
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Speaker 1: called it the potato famine. No one has ever called
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Speaker 1: it the potato famine. It was always just referred to
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Speaker 1: in English Asperla as the famine, right because it's like
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Speaker 1: people starved and that's kind of the gist of it.
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Speaker 1: I'll be talking about the famine properly another time, but
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go into the deep die of in
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Speaker 1: Gorta Moore. But m so basically this is the second time,
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Speaker 1: third time maybe that this has come around because famines
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Speaker 1: they were common because of you know, colonialist management, and
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Speaker 1: so they are doing a lot of stuff that's more
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Speaker 1: socially conscious. So her dad the baronet opened the estate
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Speaker 1: kitchens to feed local families. So like during times of hardship, right,
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Speaker 1: what a lot of the big landowners would do anyone
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Speaker 1: who had like any sense of moral compass, like they
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Speaker 1: would get things built. So there are lots of estates
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Speaker 1: in Ireland actually where there's just kind of walls, lots
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Speaker 1: of little walls for no reason, Like it's a very
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Speaker 1: strange areas that are walled off. Or there's like follies
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Speaker 1: like you see that more in the UK. I think
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Speaker 1: follies are built and it's basically giving someone a job
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Speaker 1: so that you can pay them. It's just finding a
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Speaker 1: way to pay people so they can eat. And this
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Speaker 1: would happen quite a lot because being a member of
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Speaker 1: that sort of rolling class, you're not supposed to just
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Speaker 1: give things away like people have to earn it, and
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Speaker 1: so it became this excuse of going, oh, no, I'm
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Speaker 1: not giving my money away, I'm paying this person for
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Speaker 1: this service. Anyway. What this meant is that young Constance
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Speaker 1: grew up seeing both privilege and poverty side by side,
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Speaker 1: which gave her a very different perspective to the typical
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Speaker 1: ruling class of the time. What was typical of the
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Speaker 1: time was the girl's education. The gore Booth sisters were
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Speaker 1: schooled at home by governesses and they learned French, German, Latin,
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Speaker 1: Greek and your normal things, basic math, poetry, although the
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Speaker 1: poetry was mainly instilled in them thanks to their grandmother.
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Speaker 1: He was also a poet. A childhood friends of the
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Speaker 1: sisters was poet W. B. Yates William Butler Yeats, Yes
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Speaker 1: the Sligo Matt. He often visited the family like in
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Speaker 1: Lysadelle House, and Yates actually wrote a poem in memory
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Speaker 1: of Eva gore Booth and Cohn Markovich Right. Basically, he
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Speaker 1: described the sisters as two girls in silk kimono, both beautiful,
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Speaker 1: one a gazelle, the gazelle being Eva, whom Yets described
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Speaker 1: as having gazelle like beauty. Right, now Yats Yeats maybe
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Speaker 1: been a great poet, but he was a shitty person,
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Speaker 1: like the worried to more. You know what, He's just terrible.
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Speaker 1: He's We will cover him another time because I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to waste time during the Women's History Month to
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Speaker 1: talk about a terrible man. In the eighteen seventies, when
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Speaker 1: the Baronet was out exploring the Arctic, Lady Georgina, his wife,
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Speaker 1: Constance's mother set up a school of needle work for
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Speaker 1: women at Lisadell. The women were trained in crochet, embroidery,
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Speaker 1: darn thread, works of darning and the sale of their wares.
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Speaker 1: So basically what they did allowed them to earn a
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Speaker 1: wage of eighteen chillings per week. So basically this was
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Speaker 1: a way of ensuring employment like a skill for these women.
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Speaker 1: So Eva was initially the more political of the two Systels,
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Speaker 1: being involved in the suffrage movement, and initially Constance wasn't
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Speaker 1: really feeling it, but it did catch on Lea. See,
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Speaker 1: she just wanted to be a painter, an artist, and
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Speaker 1: much to have thought dismay, she left for England to
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Speaker 1: study at the Slade School of Art in London. So
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Speaker 1: she stayed at the Alexandra House for Art pupils in Kensington, Gore.
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Speaker 1: It was here, like many people who move away from
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Speaker 1: home and get an education, she got a wider view
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Speaker 1: of the world and got interested in politics, and so
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Speaker 1: she joined the National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies the NUWSS.
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Speaker 1: After London, she moved to Paris and enrolled at the
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Speaker 1: prestigious Academi Jurian, one of the few places at the
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Speaker 1: time where women could actually train seriously as artists, because
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Speaker 1: of course the French are like you on to bed,
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Speaker 1: you can bid evannip if you see glids baby. So
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Speaker 1: it's in Paris where things, you know, her life evolved.
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Speaker 1: Aba she meets her future husband, Kashmir Markovich, an artist
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Speaker 1: from a wealthy Polish land owning family in Ukraine, although
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Speaker 1: at this point it was under the role of the
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Speaker 1: Russian Empire, Empire's man. He was an artist, he was charming.
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Speaker 1: He was a count. Now whether he was a legitimate
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Speaker 1: countess you know, a matter of debate, but honestly the
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Speaker 1: title stuck, as did his legally binding marriage to someone else.
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Speaker 1: Oh ye, I had a whole wife. I mean they
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Speaker 1: were separated and they had one child, a son, Stanislas.
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Speaker 1: Now they were separated and his you know, first wife,
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Speaker 1: she died in eighteen ninety nine. Now he ends up
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Speaker 1: winning Constance's favor by besting two men in a duel
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Speaker 1: like a bang bang due like ten paces and a
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Speaker 1: gun like right, So these men had like either offended
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Speaker 1: or insulted her, and he was just like not today, sir,
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Speaker 1: and so this would work. Gained her respect, and so
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Speaker 1: Constant Gorbuth became Countess Markovich just since it just rolls
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Speaker 1: off the tongue like Actually, I didn't know her first
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Speaker 1: name was Constance like for years, because I only ever
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Speaker 1: knew her as Countess Markovic, like that was how she
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Speaker 1: was in all of my like textbooks growing up in school.
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Speaker 1: So the Markovich is married in London on the twenty
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Speaker 1: ninth of September nineteen hundred and so they stayed in
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Speaker 1: Ladell for a while. So on their honeymoon they actually
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Speaker 1: brought his son Stanislas. So it's in las Adel where
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Speaker 1: Constant gives birth to their child. And my goodness, I
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Speaker 1: hope she got her hands on something like chloroform or
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Speaker 1: either or something because turn of the century birth's not
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Speaker 1: the safest. So she gave birth to their daughter, Mave
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Speaker 1: in November nineteen oh one, Like she was like one
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Speaker 1: and done, that's enough now. So they decided to move
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Speaker 1: to Dublin two years later and they move into this
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Speaker 1: like well just up and coming area and they're moving
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Speaker 1: around in artistic in literary circles, and Constance gained a
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Speaker 1: reputation it's a landscape painter. In nineteen oh five a
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Speaker 1: law with artists like they were integral and founding the
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Speaker 1: United Artists Club, which was an attempt to bring together
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Speaker 1: like all those in Dublin who were sort of just
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Speaker 1: you know, all the arts, artistic, literary, you know, all
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Speaker 1: that stuff together. And this group included leading figures of
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Speaker 1: like the Gaelic League light fun fact was founded by
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Speaker 1: future first President of Ireland, Douglas Hyde. So the Gaelic
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Speaker 1: League initially was focused on preserving like primarily the Irish
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Speaker 1: language at Gaelica, traditional Irish culture, songs, poetry, storytelling, music, dancing, craft, sports,
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Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Now they ended up being
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Speaker 1: a bit more than just cultural protection and preservation. See
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Speaker 1: this is the kind of group that attracted revolutionaries, right
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Speaker 1: because around this time Ireland was simmering politically and nationalism
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Speaker 1: was rising, and Constance got involved with organizations like shin
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Speaker 1: Fein and in Agina Heroin and Nationalists. Women groups founded
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Speaker 1: by what Gone Sorry, like Daughters of Ireland basically, so
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Speaker 1: I realized, I'm like, here's some Irish and my accent
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Speaker 1: which sounds weird. My voice still hasn't really come back,
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Speaker 1: so I'm really sorry. So this was founded by mad
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Speaker 1: Gone and again we're gonna recovering her at some point.
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Speaker 1: Fucking beats anyway. So here's the thing. So she's like
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Speaker 1: super riled up like Markovich, she like really wants to
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Speaker 1: be involved in an agin of Heroin and so she
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Speaker 1: comes directly to their first meeting from a function at
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Speaker 1: Dublin Castle. So Dublin Castle was the very seat of
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Speaker 1: British rule in Ireland, so cliff notes version, Ireland was
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Speaker 1: Britain's first colony anyway. So she arrives at this meeting
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Speaker 1: like she's come straight from this big fancy event. She's
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Speaker 1: in a satin ball gown and a diamond tiara. Naturally,
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Speaker 1: the members weren't entirely enameled with you know this hoity
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Speaker 1: toity lady swanning in in her gown and jewels. Like,
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Speaker 1: so she was a countess, she was known as a countess,
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Speaker 1: and her title made people like gush and grovel to her.
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Speaker 1: But like, this was different. This was a different response
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Speaker 1: than she was used to, and it only made her
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Speaker 1: more eager to join. Now y'all know how much I
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Speaker 1: hate Winston Churchill, like I despise the man. Like bad
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Speaker 1: people can do good things every now and again, broken
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Speaker 1: clock can still be right twice a day. Right, fucking
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Speaker 1: hate the man, piece of shit. But this woman, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, like she she travels to England and she
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Speaker 1: protests so much that she prevents him from winning a
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Speaker 1: Manchester by election. I love that for her. So Constance Markovic,
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Speaker 1: she helps found in Afena heron a nationalist youth organization.
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Speaker 1: Basically it's like a paramilitary boy scouts. So she almost
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Speaker 1: gets ousted, like this is nineteen o nine, by the way,
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Speaker 1: and they almost like look her out because she's a
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Speaker 1: woman and women should not be near physical force. But
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Speaker 1: basically she brings us one dude from Belfast who also
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Speaker 1: has his own little paramilitary boy scouts, right, and he's
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Speaker 1: like no, no, no, she's cool like and she then
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Speaker 1: she's on the committee like she's like this dude's here
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Speaker 1: backing me up. So, yeah, she's on the committee for
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Speaker 1: you know, ultra extreme boy Scouts. And yes, she helped
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Speaker 1: train teenage boys in military drills countess behavior apparently. So
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Speaker 1: she was jailed for the first time in nineteen eleven
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Speaker 1: for speaking in an Irish Republican Brotherhood demonstration. So the IRB,
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Speaker 1: so you're gonna get a lot of these. You've got
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Speaker 1: the Irish Republican Brotherhood, You've got the Irish Republican Army,
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Speaker 1: you've got the Irish Civilian Army. There's a lot. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of forces working together. It wasn't one like
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Speaker 1: homogeneous group that sort of was involved in, you know,
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Speaker 1: the rebellion. So she's jailed for speaking at an Irish
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Speaker 1: Republican Brotherhood demonstration. So there's like thirty thousand people there,
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Speaker 1: and she was there to protest against King George the
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Speaker 1: fifth visit to Ireland. So she's handing out leaflets, she's
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Speaker 1: like erecting banners and blazoned blazoned with Dear Land, thou
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Speaker 1: art not conquered yet. And so her and a bunch
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Speaker 1: of other people threw stones at pictures pictures of the
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Speaker 1: King and Queen and so like, and she's trying to
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Speaker 1: burn this massive British flag taken from lenstil House, Right,
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Speaker 1: She's trying to just put this thing in flames. Eventually
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Speaker 1: she succeeds. But then right, someone else is actually imprisoned
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Speaker 1: for one month for the incident. Like she's arrested anyway, right,
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Speaker 1: and this other person, they end up being arrested and imprisoned,
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Speaker 1: even though she's testifying saying that she was the one
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Speaker 1: responsible for this, right, like she had done that. Then
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Speaker 1: came the Dublin lockout of nineteen thirteen. Now this was
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Speaker 1: a huge labeled dispute between workers and employers in Dublin.
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Speaker 1: So this leads Constance to join the Irish Citizen Army,
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Speaker 1: a volunteer force formed in response to the lockout of
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Speaker 1: nineteen thirteen to defend the demonstrating workers from the police.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, what history repeating? What So the ICAA was
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Speaker 1: headed by Scottish born socialists and Irish hero James Connolly.
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Speaker 1: You've got workers striking, so families are starving, you know,
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Speaker 1: because there's no there's no aid at this point. And
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Speaker 1: Constance Markovich, aristocrat right, initially recruited volunteers from the Ica
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Speaker 1: right to peel potatoes in the basement of Liberty Hall
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Speaker 1: while she and other workers, right, they worked on getting
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Speaker 1: food to the people who needed it. Now, with anygin
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Speaker 1: of heron, she opened soup kitchens to feed the children
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Speaker 1: of striking workers. I keep saying hearing, right, it's hearing.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why my voice is changing how I
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Speaker 1: speak Irish. Right, So she basically opens a soup kitchen
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Speaker 1: to feed the children of striking workers. Yeah, she's like,
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Speaker 1: you know what's not great mas, death of children. That's
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Speaker 1: not a cool thing to do. So in order to
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Speaker 1: run the soup kitchen, she has to sell her own
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Speaker 1: jewelry to cover the costs. Right, so she becomes like
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Speaker 1: really prominent. People are really aware of who she is.
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Speaker 1: And this magazine interviews her and because she's this you know,
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Speaker 1: known figure, right, she has asked for fashion advice and
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Speaker 1: she says, dress suitably in short skirts and strong boots,
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Speaker 1: leave your jewels in the bank and buy a revolver.
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Speaker 1: This was the same year that Count Kashmir Markovich moved
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Speaker 1: back to Ukraine, and actually he never returned to live
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Speaker 1: in Ireland. However, husband and wife did correspond regularly they
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Speaker 1: wrote letters to one another, as was the custom. But
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Speaker 1: this shows that their relationship was amicable at least. So
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Speaker 1: he never returned to love, but he did return and
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Speaker 1: was by her side when she did pass away. So
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Speaker 1: now we arrive in nineteen sixteen the Easter Rising. So
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Speaker 1: basically it's called the Easter Rising because it happened over Easter, right,
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Speaker 1: So this was an armed rebellion against British rule in Ireland.
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Speaker 1: As speaking of actually colonial revolts. So there was there's
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Speaker 1: this thing where I'll talk about something being a rebellion,
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Speaker 1: and somebody had mentioned to me about how rebellions in
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Speaker 1: say India, for example, against the British, that they were
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Speaker 1: known as revolts. Oh no, they weren't rebellions. There were revolts.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, okay, okay, I get it, I
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Speaker 1: get it. I get like they're they're trying to take
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Speaker 1: ownership and flip. You know, in Ireland, we were like, no,
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Speaker 1: we we rebelled, We we rebelled against you, and you
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Speaker 1: deserved it. It's interesting how the two cultures like they
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Speaker 1: are still claiming ownership and claiming you know, righteousness and
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Speaker 1: justice in both ways. But we're both in very different ways.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Easter Rising, armed rebellion, and Constance Markovich was
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Speaker 1: not about to just step back and watch it happen.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't about to be sitting there dawning. I mean
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Speaker 1: she did, but she didn't. That's not here anyway. She
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Speaker 1: says fuck this for a game of soldiers and then
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Speaker 1: goes to fight some very odils. Like she's in the
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Speaker 1: Irish Civilian Army. She's fighting for Ireland, like actually fighting
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Speaker 1: like hand to hand combat. So she fought in Saint
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Speaker 1: Stephen's Green where on the morning according to a diary
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Speaker 1: entry to a contemporary source at the time allegedlies she
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Speaker 1: shot a member of the Dublin Metropolitan Police constab Oli heaf.
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Speaker 1: Now there's also suggesting that she may be in at
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Speaker 1: Citrey Hall when he was shot, but this is attributed
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Speaker 1: to her. Now you'll see reports of her being second
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Speaker 1: in command, she was not. She did oversee construction of
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Speaker 1: barricades and she did wound a British sniper. She also
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Speaker 1: acted as a nurse and was again allegedly'es seen sowing
22:45
Speaker 1: a rebel flag at one point. Right, I mean this
22:48
Speaker 1: is over six days, so keeping herself busy and understand.
22:51
Speaker 1: So the Stephens Green Garrison held out for six days, right,
22:55
Speaker 1: because you know this rebellion it lasted six stays. So
23:02
Speaker 1: this ended when the British brought them Padrick Pearce's surrendering order,
23:07
Speaker 1: Podrick Pawdrig Pearce's surrender order. It's really funny because I'd
23:12
Speaker 1: never said his name in English, and I saw, like
23:16
Speaker 1: Patrick is Patrick Pierce. I was like, oh, it's Padrig Peers.
23:20
Speaker 1: So when she was taken by the British, she handed
23:24
Speaker 1: over her gun to them, right, So she just hands
23:26
Speaker 1: it and she says I'm ready, Like she's like, shoot me, bitches,
23:32
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Right. The rebels were taken to
23:35
Speaker 1: Dublin Castle and then to Colmainham Jail. So she was
23:40
Speaker 1: the only one of seventy prisoners right who was put
23:44
Speaker 1: in solitary confinement, like they wanted to make sure she suffered.
23:48
Speaker 1: At her court martial on the fourth of May nineteen sixteen,
23:52
Speaker 1: Markovich pleaded not guilty to taking part in an armed
23:55
Speaker 1: rebellion for the purpose of assisting the enemy. However, she
24:00
Speaker 1: did plead guilty to having attempted to caused disaffection among
24:04
Speaker 1: the civil population of his majesty. She told the court
24:09
Speaker 1: that she was fighting for Ireland's freedom. The rising was
24:13
Speaker 1: crushed after six days. Many of the leaders were executed,
24:19
Speaker 1: and Markovitch she was one of them. She was, I mean,
24:21
Speaker 1: she was arrested and she was sentenced to death. Right,
24:25
Speaker 1: her death warrant was signed. Right, So they started executing people,
24:30
Speaker 1: and they did it over a series of days. Now
24:34
Speaker 1: I've spoken at this before. So the nineteen sixteen Easter
24:40
Speaker 1: Rising was the largest rebellion against British rule in Ireland
24:43
Speaker 1: since seventeen ninety eight. And this was mainly in Dublin,
24:46
Speaker 1: but pockets had occurred across the country as well. On Monday,
24:51
Speaker 1: April twenty fourth, twelve hundred people joined the garrison in
24:53
Speaker 1: Stephen's Green, including Irish volunteers, aries to citizen Array and
24:56
Speaker 1: the common among by Satary of the twenty ninth the
25:00
Speaker 1: rebels surrendered in order to protect Irish citizens from more bloodshed.
25:05
Speaker 1: Fourteen rebels, including the seven signatories of the Proclamation all
25:09
Speaker 1: the Republic, were executed between May second and twelfth. But
25:13
Speaker 1: one man was the straw that broke the camel's back
25:16
Speaker 1: and garnered national sympathy for the cause. James Connolly was
25:20
Speaker 1: held in a room in Dublin Castle, which was basically
25:22
Speaker 1: a tree as room from the First World War. Like
25:26
Speaker 1: the fatal injuries that James Connolly sustained in the Rising
25:29
Speaker 1: gave him only days to live. On May twelfth, he
25:32
Speaker 1: was brought to Colmainham Jail by ambulance. He was brought
25:35
Speaker 1: out on a stretcher and then tied to a chair
25:38
Speaker 1: because he could not sit or stand unaid it. He
25:42
Speaker 1: was bound to the chair. They removed his glasses from
25:45
Speaker 1: his face, and then a firing squad executed him. Like
25:50
Speaker 1: his doctor said that he had days to live, like
25:53
Speaker 1: he was on the verge of death, and they're just like, no, no,
25:57
Speaker 1: we have to execute him. He can't just die of
26:00
Speaker 1: his wounds, which like politically not the smartest move. They're like,
26:06
Speaker 1: we need to crush the rebels. But what they did
26:10
Speaker 1: was just turn public opinion against sort of British colonial
26:16
Speaker 1: power and sort of give more sympathy to the rebellion.
26:21
Speaker 1: And it gained more public support because this is a
26:23
Speaker 1: nation who shot and they executed a dying man, right,
26:30
Speaker 1: They did not give him a dignified death. He was
26:33
Speaker 1: already dying. They had to prop him up to execute him. Right,
26:39
Speaker 1: the doctors were even like you shouldn't be moving him,
26:43
Speaker 1: so like that was already already an issue, Like they
26:47
Speaker 1: had been like slowly executing these people trying to think,
26:50
Speaker 1: and it was going to be like we'll just show
26:53
Speaker 1: this in the press or just like reading them for filth,
26:57
Speaker 1: or like you just did this, Like this is not honorable, right,
27:02
Speaker 1: because like honor used to be a big deal. Now
27:05
Speaker 1: we don't have shame. Shame isn't a thing anymore, but
27:07
Speaker 1: honor used to be like a huge deal. But yeah,
27:12
Speaker 1: so Markovich, she's arrested, she's sentenced to death, but this
27:19
Speaker 1: sentence was committed to life imprisonment because of everything else
27:22
Speaker 1: that was already going on, they couldn't also now shoot
27:24
Speaker 1: a woman, right, So officially they said because she's a
27:28
Speaker 1: woman on the basis of sex, and like she responds
27:33
Speaker 1: to this by telling them, I wish you a lot
27:37
Speaker 1: had the decency to shoot me. Okay, I'm sorry, but
27:41
Speaker 1: icon okay, okay. So she's transferred to Mountjoy prison. So
27:45
Speaker 1: she goes from Comay and jail where the executions are happening, right,
27:50
Speaker 1: and they take her to Mountjoy. Then she goes to
27:53
Speaker 1: Holloway Prison and then she goes to Aylesbury Prison in
27:58
Speaker 1: England in July nineteen sixth. Now she was released from
28:03
Speaker 1: prison after a Yale nineteen seventeen, along with others involved
28:06
Speaker 1: in the rising. Like basically they're like, we need to
28:08
Speaker 1: get them out of Ireland because we can't have them
28:11
Speaker 1: there because that's just gonna you know, people, they're gonna
28:15
Speaker 1: try and break them out. It's gonna be a whole thing,
28:17
Speaker 1: and they think they can control it if it's over
28:19
Speaker 1: over just across the Irish Sea. So right, as I said,
28:28
Speaker 1: you know, London granted a general like amnesty for those
28:32
Speaker 1: who had participated in the rising because you know, the
28:34
Speaker 1: court of public opinion it's weighed since they executed a
28:38
Speaker 1: man in a wheelchair, it was days away from death.
28:42
Speaker 1: So around that time Countess Markovich, yes, so like around
28:45
Speaker 1: this time she converted to Catholicism, right, So that was
28:49
Speaker 1: something that she did because she was she was Protestant
28:52
Speaker 1: and like a lot, if not all, of the Anglo
28:54
Speaker 1: Irish ruling class were. So in nineteen eighteen, something remarkable happened, right,
29:02
Speaker 1: So Constance Markovich was elected to the British Parliament, as
29:07
Speaker 1: a member of shin Fain in the general election. Right,
29:10
Speaker 1: so she pair opponent William Field with sixty six percent
29:14
Speaker 1: of the vote as one of the seventy three shin
29:16
Speaker 1: Fein MPs, so members of Parliament. This made her the
29:20
Speaker 1: very first woman ever elected to the House of Commons. However,
29:27
Speaker 1: she refused to take her seat because shin Fein MPs
29:33
Speaker 1: like basically they had absentia so they had their own
29:36
Speaker 1: parliament in Dublin, Darlern. Right, So she actually gets elected.
29:42
Speaker 1: So the nineteen eighteen election happens like earlier, so like
29:47
Speaker 1: for eighteen, it's in seventeen, right, So she's elected and
29:50
Speaker 1: as her name is read out, they're like, oh, she's
29:54
Speaker 1: held in a prison by an enemy, like that's the
29:56
Speaker 1: big announcement of that. And then obviously following that she
30:02
Speaker 1: is released. So she was re elected to the second
30:15
Speaker 1: doll in the elections of nineteen twenty one. Right. So
30:18
Speaker 1: in nineteen nineteen, Countess Constance Markovich became Minister for Labor
30:22
Speaker 1: in the Revolutionary Irish government, which means she became one
30:27
Speaker 1: of the first female cabinet members in the world, not
30:31
Speaker 1: just Ireland, the world. Okay, that's thinking for a second
30:37
Speaker 1: Constance Markovic was the first female cabinet minister like in
30:41
Speaker 1: Ireland and at the same time only the second female
30:45
Speaker 1: government minister in Europe. Like that being said, I don't
30:49
Speaker 1: think Ireland had another female cabinet minister until nineteen seventy nine,
30:53
Speaker 1: but we have had a few female presidents. Hop up,
30:56
Speaker 1: Mary McLeese right, Mary mcley's, Mary Robinson, Catherine Connolly. Okay,
31:03
Speaker 1: like wait, we have some good ins right, So things
31:07
Speaker 1: take a turn in nineteen twenty two, so Ireland gains
31:10
Speaker 1: its independence sort of twenty six plus six equals one. Okay,
31:17
Speaker 1: So when Ireland was partitioned, right the Anglo Irish Treaty, Well,
31:23
Speaker 1: it had a partition where the UK would keep them
31:26
Speaker 1: of Ireland for itself. Conveniently one of the first places
31:29
Speaker 1: that planted ulster ulster plantations where like the first rule
31:34
Speaker 1: successful plantations that happened. There were other ones down on
31:38
Speaker 1: like Leachon awfully by Queen Mary, but they it wasn't
31:42
Speaker 1: great okay, yeah, so I mean it wasn't all of Alstaff.
31:48
Speaker 1: They didn't get doneygall Cavin or Monaghan, right, but it
31:52
Speaker 1: did get the six counties so which is often referred
31:56
Speaker 1: to as the North of Ireland and it has been
31:58
Speaker 1: a political point of contention ever since. Now up here
32:03
Speaker 1: you had ports and trade in the area. Ship building
32:06
Speaker 1: another industry, Linen was big there, and well Britain wanted
32:10
Speaker 1: to keep what they felt was financially beneficial for it.
32:12
Speaker 1: They basically wanted to screw Island over, right, because they're like, oh,
32:15
Speaker 1: here's where a lot of you know, industry and textiles.
32:18
Speaker 1: We're gonna like keep that banks. Now here's the thing.
32:24
Speaker 1: Michael Collins was sent there. He was sent to basically
32:28
Speaker 1: make the agreements on the treaty because the Irish government
32:32
Speaker 1: knew this was the best deal they were going to get, right,
32:33
Speaker 1: and they basically used him as the fall guy, right,
32:37
Speaker 1: he was the patsy in the situation. So the Irish
32:42
Speaker 1: Civil War happens, right, you have the pro treaty and
32:45
Speaker 1: the iront Treaty sides, right, so you have the Irish
32:49
Speaker 1: Civil War. Is unlike a lot of civil wars, this
32:54
Speaker 1: was like very intimate, right, So it's not town against town,
32:59
Speaker 1: this is neighbor against neighbor. This is brother against brother, right,
33:03
Speaker 1: that's the kind of war this was. So the Countess
33:08
Speaker 1: she ends up leaving government along with another fucking arsehol
33:12
Speaker 1: Aim and de Valera, the man who was super supportive
33:15
Speaker 1: of the Magdalen laundries. I have my issues with that
33:17
Speaker 1: piece of shit as well. Do I believe you orchestrated
33:20
Speaker 1: the assassination of Michael Collins. I don't think he did,
33:23
Speaker 1: because assassinating a political leader is a really bad look.
33:30
Speaker 1: You know that that's not going to gain you support.
33:33
Speaker 1: So I don't think he did it. And also, geez,
33:37
Speaker 1: don't I mean the Mechal Collins movie. It's God's bullshit.
33:40
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm no fan of de Valleera, but I
33:42
Speaker 1: don't think he organized an assassination. Right The evidence just
33:46
Speaker 1: doesn't support it anyway. Kontis Markovich actively worked for the
33:53
Speaker 1: Republican cause in the Irish Civil War, including directing the
33:56
Speaker 1: citizen Army and the occupation of Like Moorn's House in Dublin.
34:00
Speaker 1: Right So, in the Battle of Dublin, she helped lead
34:03
Speaker 1: the anti treaty forces of the IRA's Dublin Brigade. Right so,
34:07
Speaker 1: the Irish Republican Army members of the Common the Man
34:10
Speaker 1: assisted the anti treaty forces and carried dispatches between the
34:14
Speaker 1: occupied four Courts buildings and the Dublin Brigade headquarters. So basically,
34:19
Speaker 1: coming the Man is a women's it's just women's party.
34:26
Speaker 1: And like they were a major major part of, you know,
34:31
Speaker 1: the Irish rebellion and in the Civil War. Like they
34:34
Speaker 1: are passaging, passaging, they are passing messages to one another,
34:39
Speaker 1: Like they are like very very integral to this right. So, like,
34:47
Speaker 1: she wasn't elected in the twenty two general election, but
34:50
Speaker 1: she did return for in twenty three for the Dublin
34:54
Speaker 1: South constituency. Like other Republican candidates, she did not take
34:59
Speaker 1: her dull seat because you know, Ina that the country
35:04
Speaker 1: is not doing great. Basically, she was arrested again in
35:08
Speaker 1: November nineteen twenty three. In prison, she goes on a
35:11
Speaker 1: hunger strike and within a month she is released. So
35:15
Speaker 1: she ends up leaving Shinfein and joins Pheno Fall on
35:19
Speaker 1: its foundation in nineteen twenty six, chairing the inaugural meeting
35:23
Speaker 1: of the new party in the Alaskala Theater. She was
35:29
Speaker 1: re elected to the fifth dollars a candidate for Pheno
35:31
Speaker 1: Fall in nineteen twenty seven, which was pledged to take
35:34
Speaker 1: its seats and doll air and if the requirement to
35:36
Speaker 1: take the oath of allegiance was removed. Now it does
35:40
Speaker 1: get removed, but not until like nineteen twenty seven. So
35:45
Speaker 1: over the years, Countess Markovich had given away all of
35:48
Speaker 1: her money, like she was determined to live amongst the
35:52
Speaker 1: lowest rungs of society, the impoverished, the needy. Right, she
35:57
Speaker 1: gave away her fancy clothes, her expensive jewelry, all of it. Right.
36:01
Speaker 1: At one point she's staying in just like a house
36:05
Speaker 1: for the poor, right, And this was where she wanted
36:08
Speaker 1: to be. She wanted to be amongst the people because
36:12
Speaker 1: the majority of people in Ireland, we're not wealthy. There
36:17
Speaker 1: was this joke right growing up in Ireland, like there
36:21
Speaker 1: was no like rich people, Like there wasn't like a
36:23
Speaker 1: huge societal divides because there was everybody. Everybody was the same.
36:30
Speaker 1: And then there was that one family who had a
36:31
Speaker 1: big house. Right. That's it right all over Ireland. That
36:36
Speaker 1: is how that is how our communities worked. Everybody's the
36:40
Speaker 1: same one family with a big house, okay, and they
36:43
Speaker 1: would own a local business like a pub or a garage,
36:47
Speaker 1: like it would be one of those, right, So the
36:51
Speaker 1: dad would have like a business and then the mom
36:53
Speaker 1: would be involved in like all the social groups, so
36:55
Speaker 1: she would run like choirs and stuff and like town
36:59
Speaker 1: meetings like that's just there was culture society in the
37:05
Speaker 1: nineties and it was probably like that eighties, seventies things
37:09
Speaker 1: like that. It didn't it looked the amish like progress happens.
37:13
Speaker 1: It just happened slowly. So in nineteen twenty seven, like
37:18
Speaker 1: she's in pain, she's suffering from appendicitis, and she has surgery.
37:24
Speaker 1: She has surgery, and a time before antibiotics are readily available,
37:30
Speaker 1: she had two surgeries. Actually, so she has two surgeries
37:33
Speaker 1: for appendicitis and there were complications. Now of my opinion
37:40
Speaker 1: is always sepsis. I'm convinced everything is sepsis because like
37:46
Speaker 1: jerm theory, man, it wasn't. It was there, but it wasn't,
37:50
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was, but it listen, Okay,
37:56
Speaker 1: hygiene in medicine and the nineteen twenties, post rebeta, post
38:01
Speaker 1: Civil war not the easiest, not the easiest now, of course,
38:09
Speaker 1: Countess Constance Markovic because of the complications. She died on
38:16
Speaker 1: the fifth of July nineteen twenty seven in a public
38:20
Speaker 1: ward in Dublin. She dies at the age of fifty nine,
38:26
Speaker 1: with Kashmir and Stanislav Markovic by her side. Her daughter
38:32
Speaker 1: Mayve wasn't there. Okay, here's the thing we need to
38:35
Speaker 1: talk about, right, So may and her like being of
38:40
Speaker 1: the class that she was when you had a child,
38:43
Speaker 1: like you had them and then they were raised by
38:45
Speaker 1: like nannies and governesses because it's you know, at that point,
38:50
Speaker 1: it's still Victorian, you know, Europe, and so that would
38:54
Speaker 1: how Mave would have been raised. And so I don't
38:57
Speaker 1: think that Constance Markovic was the most maternal of people,
39:01
Speaker 1: and I think after having one child she realized that
39:06
Speaker 1: and that's why she was like, this is fine. And
39:09
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe even for them, it was just
39:11
Speaker 1: a matter of doing that in order to like legally
39:14
Speaker 1: ensure their marriage. Oh look we've had one kid. Look
39:16
Speaker 1: we have issue. Definitely legal marriage, solid done right, and
39:23
Speaker 1: that would be that. And he already had an air
39:24
Speaker 1: anyway because he had to done his last so they
39:26
Speaker 1: didn't need an air necessarily. So when Mave and Constance
39:33
Speaker 1: meet each other, like when Mave's an adult, like they're strangers, right,
39:38
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of like connection there, and I
39:42
Speaker 1: get it. Like strangely enough, this is one of like
39:48
Speaker 1: the nicer stories I have for for a women's History month,
39:54
Speaker 1: although I do have a really fun palate cleanser coming
39:56
Speaker 1: at the end of the month for everybody, just so
39:57
Speaker 1: you know. But anyway, she dies on the fifth of
40:01
Speaker 1: July nineteen twenty seven public ward in the Dublin Hospital. Right,
40:04
Speaker 1: she's in the rotunda at the age of fifty nine
40:08
Speaker 1: with Kashmir and Stanislav Markovich, Amon de Valera and her
40:14
Speaker 1: dear friend Hannah. She's Skeffington by her site. The Free
40:20
Speaker 1: State government refused to provide this revolutionary woman a state funeral,
40:26
Speaker 1: so instead she had her wake at the Rotunda hospital
40:29
Speaker 1: and then was brought to Glasnevin Cemetery where she was
40:32
Speaker 1: led to rest. So basically the street streets, I should
40:38
Speaker 1: say lined they are aligned with people, you know, trying
40:43
Speaker 1: to pay her respects. So Irish awake. Actually no, I'll
40:49
Speaker 1: do this first. So people are trying to pay their respects.
40:52
Speaker 1: It takes four hours. It takes four hours from like
40:58
Speaker 1: for this funeral procession you get from the Rotunda to
41:02
Speaker 1: get to Glasnevin Cemetery just because of the amount of
41:07
Speaker 1: people that wanted to show their respect to this woman.
41:12
Speaker 1: So wakes an Irish wake, so one thing. An Irish
41:16
Speaker 1: wake is interesting because it's a celebration of life as
41:22
Speaker 1: opposed to the sadness of death. And typically in an
41:27
Speaker 1: Irish wake, it happens in the home of the person
41:30
Speaker 1: who died, right, So when it comes to an Irish wake,
41:34
Speaker 1: what's supposed to happen is the body is you know, cleaned,
41:38
Speaker 1: put together, dressed, brought back to the home and typically
41:43
Speaker 1: laid out on the kitchen table. Right, So we laid
41:46
Speaker 1: it on the kitchen table, so somewhere else in the kitchen,
41:49
Speaker 1: there's a pile of sandwiches, right, that's what you do.
41:53
Speaker 1: You have a pile of sandwiches, like you get a
41:57
Speaker 1: good feed awake, And that's just how things go. Now,
42:03
Speaker 1: that's why in Ireland it's a thing of like you
42:05
Speaker 1: don't put shoes on a table, Like you're not supposed
42:08
Speaker 1: to put shoes on a table because the only time
42:13
Speaker 1: shoes should be on a table as if someone is
42:15
Speaker 1: being waked. Right. So, and it's very much a personal thing.
42:20
Speaker 1: So like during lockdown, like that was a massive thing
42:23
Speaker 1: because so many people died and we could not have wakes,
42:27
Speaker 1: and so it became like people were secretly having wakes.
42:31
Speaker 1: It became like an issue. Like most of the time
42:35
Speaker 1: it was overlooked unless again, they had really good sandwiches,
42:37
Speaker 1: and so the Guardian would drop up to have a
42:39
Speaker 1: sandwich or two. But like this would cause problems, but yes,
42:45
Speaker 1: so ends the story of Countess Constance Markovich, Revolutionary Leader, reader,
42:50
Speaker 1: leader Leader. God, my voice isn't back, I'm so sorry.
42:54
Speaker 1: And with that, another women, another amazing women, the first
42:58
Speaker 1: woman ever elected to the British Parliament. Now I bring
43:03
Speaker 1: this up because quite a lot of times someone will
43:05
Speaker 1: mention another woman who got elected and the first one
43:08
Speaker 1: to take her seat, right, and they're like, oh, so
43:09
Speaker 1: and so was the foster and I'm like, I thank
43:11
Speaker 1: youll thine it was Constant Markovich, right, And people don't
43:16
Speaker 1: know how to take it when I say it because
43:18
Speaker 1: I'm an Irish person with a Scottish accent, and so
43:21
Speaker 1: this leads to a lot of issues when English people
43:24
Speaker 1: hear me and they're like, wait, what, why do you care?
43:26
Speaker 1: And I'm like, bitch, I'm a historian, I fucking care.
43:30
Speaker 1: But yes, it is what it is, and like, great,
43:36
Speaker 1: not the most maternal people, but we shouldn't expect all
43:38
Speaker 1: women to be maternal. And she was expected to be
43:40
Speaker 1: a mother, but she wanted to be a painter. She
43:43
Speaker 1: wanted to be an artist, and then she saw the
43:44
Speaker 1: world and went, oh, no, we need to do something
43:48
Speaker 1: about this. And that's why, like the wall was on fire,
43:54
Speaker 1: and I actively want to keep doing good. So my
43:58
Speaker 1: voice is so harsh to him, so sorry, but yeah,
44:01
Speaker 1: this is this is I just want to keep telling history,
44:05
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, the stuff we have to learn from.
44:08
Speaker 1: I want to keep going. I don't want to stop.
44:10
Speaker 1: I want to keep going, and I want to try
44:11
Speaker 1: and educate. And I know that's going to get me
44:14
Speaker 1: hate and annoying people being our souls because that's just
44:17
Speaker 1: how it is. And I know I'm an our sohul
44:19
Speaker 1: I know I am. Okay, okay, but I'm going to
44:22
Speaker 1: give you a really fun palate cleanser at the end
44:24
Speaker 1: of the month. I promise you I have a special
44:27
Speaker 1: treat because things are going to get worse from here. Okay,
44:32
Speaker 1: They're gonna get worse from here, and then they're gonna
44:35
Speaker 1: get better, but they're going to get worse. Okay. I
44:37
Speaker 1: have horrible, horrible information for you, and I'm not going
44:41
Speaker 1: to stop because I think it's important that and as
44:45
Speaker 1: much as I want to celebrate people in Women's History Month,
44:49
Speaker 1: like the amount of women I know that we're talking
44:53
Speaker 1: about International Women's Day and just felt so just disheartened
44:58
Speaker 1: and despondent and just fucked up and fucked over, Like
45:04
Speaker 1: it feels difficult to celebrate when we're consistently being crushed
45:09
Speaker 1: and the world is tatering on the edge of destruction.
45:13
Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things. It's one of
45:16
Speaker 1: those things. And so what I want to do is educate,
45:21
Speaker 1: and I want to keep doing it, and I hope
45:23
Speaker 1: you will share this, and I hope you will keep
45:25
Speaker 1: sharing my stuff and commenting, watching, listening, follow me on
45:30
Speaker 1: the socials, engaging and stuff, because I'm working really hard
45:34
Speaker 1: to keep this going even with everything's going on, and
45:37
Speaker 1: I gotta some personal stuff happening which is causing much
45:40
Speaker 1: stress right now. And yeah, yeah, but anyway, it's a
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Speaker 1: recommendation time for reading. Okay. I know that I recommended Bold, Brilliant,
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Speaker 1: and Bad before by h. Devil Broderic, but I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: do it again. I'm gonna do it again. It's a
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Speaker 1: really good book. You should read it for listening, you
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Speaker 1: know what. Sarah hester Ross has a new podcast called
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Speaker 1: This is My Baby, and it's about celebrating the milestones
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Speaker 1: that aren't children, and I'm like, yeah, as a parent,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, celebrate other stuff. And it's really good.
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Speaker 1: So you should go watch or listen to Sarah hester
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Speaker 1: Ross's podcast This is My Baby, So go do that.
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Speaker 1: For watching though, oh for watching dairy Girls. No, I
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Speaker 1: don't have anything else dairy Girls. Go watch Dairy Girls
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Speaker 1: because I haven't watched How to Get to Heaven from
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Speaker 1: Belfast yet, But I think Dairy Girls is just something
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Speaker 1: that you should watch. Then you should look up the
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Speaker 1: troubles and then you should watch again and it will
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Speaker 1: somehow make the jokes hit harder and it will give
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Speaker 1: you a better understanding of the world. But with that,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say, by adios au revoir my friends,
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Speaker 1: Bye bye,