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I Choose...To Turn The Volume Up on My Voice with Ever Carradine · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about
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  Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My
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  Speaker 1: guest today is known for our role on one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite TV shows that is in its final season,
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  Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to talk to her about feminism,
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  Speaker 1: about being a mom, and how she finds ways to
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  Speaker 1: choose herself even when she's filming The Handmaid's Tale. You
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  Speaker 1: can catch new episodes of The Handmaid's Tale by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday nights on Hulu. Please welcome ever Carrodane to the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, we we know each other.
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  Speaker 2: We used to do yoga together.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you? Where on Venture Boulevard?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I did a movie with Peter right?
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  Speaker 1: What movie? Uh? You know?
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  Speaker 2: It never came out. It was called rope Walk and
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  Speaker 2: it got sort of stuck in litigation, but we filmed
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  Speaker 2: it on Nantucket and then remember home. My husband now
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  Speaker 2: my husband, but my then boyfriend and I would go
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  Speaker 2: down to yoga and one day we walked in and
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  Speaker 2: there were you and Peter, who also did couples yoga
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  Speaker 2: with Jenni Brill.
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  Speaker 1: Jenny Brill, that's right. Where is Jenny Brill now?
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  Speaker 2: Jennie Brill is still teaching yoga?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I miss her energy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't you, purple hair. I run into her every
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  Speaker 2: now and then if I'm down in Studio City, I
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  Speaker 2: might catch her getting like a macha or something exactly
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  Speaker 2: the same.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad you remember, because I was racking
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  Speaker 1: my mind last night trying to remember.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm like an elephant with stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: It just goes somewhere, it doesn't come out good.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, that was your fiance then or just your boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: when you went here?
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  Speaker 2: I think he was just my boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Then did your boyfriend take his shirt off at yoga?
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  Speaker 2: No? Peter did, though, I'm really glad.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember that too? Oh my god. He would
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  Speaker 1: take his shirt off and he was so sweaty every time.
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  Speaker 2: And remember Jenny was into like partner stuff, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I don't don't, I don't want to do
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  Speaker 2: Peter Kobe.
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  Speaker 1: Don't let me touch him. That's how I felt, too.
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  Speaker 1: All good. He was really good at yoha.
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  Speaker 2: It might have been the only shirt fore yoga.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, except for did you ever see Thomas Tom Tom?
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  Speaker 1: Tom Tom? What's his name.
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  Speaker 2: He was on Yes Melo's Place, Melroe's Place. He played
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  Speaker 2: the doctor, Doctor Tom.
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  Speaker 1: He was also went to yoga there and was a
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  Speaker 1: yoga instructor and also always shirtless.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a look, it was a vibe.
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  Speaker 1: I remember one times, Oh my god, I remember one
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  Speaker 1: time in a yoga class, Peter just sweat profusely and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't bring a towel, but he thought he did,
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  Speaker 1: and he reached back and took the neighbor ladies towel
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  Speaker 1: on the yoga mat next to him, and he like
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  Speaker 1: wiped off all his sweat on it. And then she
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  Speaker 1: was like, excuse me, that's my towel, and he goes, oh,
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  Speaker 1: here you go. You know actor, Oh bless art that
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  Speaker 1: we laugh about that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's so good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you've had such a good good time
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  Speaker 1: though in this industry. We're gonna talk about Handmaid's Tale
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  Speaker 1: because I'm obsessed with it. But at first I want
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  Speaker 1: to start off where pretty much everybody seems to start off.
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  Speaker 1: You came from a famous family of actors, which for
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  Speaker 1: me is so fascinating because it's so different than the
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  Speaker 1: life I grew up in. I think your perspective is
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  Speaker 1: much more similar to probably my daughters, being that they
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  Speaker 1: were born and bred in la and they spent so
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  Speaker 1: much time on sets and so did you, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just normal for them, and I'm sure it was just
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  Speaker 1: normal for you.
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  Speaker 2: Completely. Where are you from.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from Illinois, from the Midwest.
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  Speaker 2: And you came out here and look at you. Look
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  Speaker 2: what you did. Let me go, it's amazing. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think that kids don't listen. Also, like I grew
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  Speaker 2: up before social media and before Instagram, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. Like you had to sort of know who
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  Speaker 2: my family was. You had to go to the movies
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  Speaker 2: or watch television. It wasn't sort of like is in
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  Speaker 2: your face as it is now. But no, kids don't kids.
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  Speaker 2: I think their parents are their parents, like you know.
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  Speaker 2: Aside from a few perks of the of my dad's job,
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  Speaker 2: it was a very normal childhood for me. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: feel it's probably a lot like your kids. It was not.
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  Speaker 2: It was not a big deal. And also my dad's
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  Speaker 2: father was an actor, so I'm now third generation, so
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  Speaker 2: he you know, worked the kinks out and I.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice. That's so nice that you had that
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  Speaker 1: sort of access to the industry and that sort of
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  Speaker 1: like like preconditioning almost totally, and like you were important.
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  Speaker 2: Like child actors might have is that when they grow
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  Speaker 2: up on set, like being on set feels very at
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  Speaker 2: home to them. It feels very normal. They know to
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  Speaker 2: go to craft service for a snack. They know if
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  Speaker 2: they got to stain on their sweatshirt that someone in
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  Speaker 2: the costume department will give them a new one. Like
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  Speaker 2: those are things that I learned, but not by being
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  Speaker 2: a child actor, just by sort of like being on set.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids loved it, and I think it's so
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  Speaker 1: cool because they did get exposed to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different kinds of people, people who work hard for a living,
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  Speaker 1: and it made them really appreciate I think, what I
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  Speaker 1: do and what their dad does.
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  Speaker 2: Retally, And don't you feel like you can have a
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  Speaker 2: conversation with anyone? Like to me, the crew is so diverse,
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  Speaker 2: and so they're from everywhere and some of them are
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  Speaker 2: specific artists and some of them are carpenters, and some
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  Speaker 2: of them are gear heads or whatever, And like my
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  Speaker 2: nature is to be inquisitive and like I can have
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  Speaker 2: a conversation with anybody, and I know that that comes
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  Speaker 2: from a life on set and genuine curious help.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I love that about them too, that they're
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  Speaker 1: just not afraid to talk to other adults, which is
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  Speaker 1: so cool. But I do think it's really cool also
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  Speaker 1: that even though you had this availability to the industry
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  Speaker 1: right there for you, you chose to go to college
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  Speaker 1: and figure your shit out on your own. I did
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  Speaker 1: do you think back on that time when you went
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  Speaker 1: away to college? Do you remember it fondly or like,
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  Speaker 1: were you scared because you moved away? Right?
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  Speaker 2: I moved? Yeah. So I'm born and raised in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: I was raised by my dad, so it's just the
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  Speaker 2: two of us growing up. I had a wonderful childhood.
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  Speaker 2: I rode horses. I went to a lovely private school.
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  Speaker 2: I had a really good friends. I didn't have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: those nightmare high school years. Like, I had a pretty
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  Speaker 2: It all went pretty pretty according to plan. And then
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  Speaker 2: when I went to when I was applying to college,
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  Speaker 2: my dad was like, you want to go to college? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So I went to college in Portland, Oregon, And you know,
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  Speaker 2: Portland in the late nineties was like the height of grin.
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  Speaker 2: It was a really cool place to be, Like Nirvana
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  Speaker 2: was like at the top of their game, like singles
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  Speaker 2: had come out. You know, it was just a very
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  Speaker 2: cool It was a really cool city. And my dad
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  Speaker 2: had spent some time there and he was like, go
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  Speaker 2: to Portland. He's like, it's a great place to sort
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  Speaker 2: of like practice being an adult. And so that was
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  Speaker 2: a little how I went into college and then I
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  Speaker 2: was a sociology anthropology major, and then I did a play.
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  Speaker 2: And after I did a play, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that was really fun. If I could do that for
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  Speaker 2: a job, Like if someone paid me to do that
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  Speaker 2: as a job, Like, how lucky would I be? And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was right. So I swapped majors to
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  Speaker 2: theater and the rest is history. That sounds like a
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  Speaker 2: cheesy way to say it, but you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But it's true.
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  Speaker 2: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: Have you been back to Portland lately.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely changed. Yeah, I've been back a few times.
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  Speaker 2: I've been back sort of at its peak, which is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it really cleaned up in the Pearl District
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  Speaker 2: and Pala's bookstore. Everything got so much bigger and better
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  Speaker 2: and now it's going through a little bit of a transition.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll come back though. It's so beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. It's such a good food scene, it's
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  Speaker 2: such a good beer scene, it's such good coffee. Like,
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  Speaker 2: there's so much about that Portland has to offer. So
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  Speaker 2: I just need her to get back on her feet again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think you felt any kind of pressure
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  Speaker 1: from just because of your family lineage, like, yeah, to
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  Speaker 1: like live up to their level of success or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Do you ever feel that pressure?
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  Speaker 2: You know? I don't think I do. And I always say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, people talk about like what do they say
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  Speaker 2: Napo babies or this sort of stuff, And I always
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  Speaker 2: felt at the time, and I still feel upon reflecting
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of my career that like I was
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  Speaker 2: treated with a level of respect in auditions or in
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  Speaker 2: a room that I hadn't quite earned yet. But what
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  Speaker 2: hell lucky was I to have that? Do you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? I have the feeling of like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you respect me and you're listening to me at such
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  Speaker 2: a tender age, because that since that was the norm,
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  Speaker 2: that was what I then required respect.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I like that though, yeah you should, you should, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent, But you know, a twenty two year
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  Speaker 2: old might not totally feel that yet. Might not used
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  Speaker 2: to that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and it's there is certainly something to the fact
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  Speaker 1: of earning it and you know.
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  Speaker 2: Completely looking for it, absolutely absolutely, But.
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  Speaker 1: Which you've done, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't feel like, you know, I don't feel like I
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  Speaker 2: was expected to. I mean, I guess the one thing
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I need to do is a Western.
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  Speaker 2: Like my family is so like cowboys, like and people
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  Speaker 2: keep asking what my next project is, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: God willing it's a Western, Like I show up at
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  Speaker 2: work and get on a horse. Wouldn't that be the dream? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's especially a dream.
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  Speaker 2: It's the dream.
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  Speaker 1: I did a movie where I was riding a horse.
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  Speaker 1: I was like a saving my parents ranch or something,
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  Speaker 1: and and I was I just found out, like the
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  Speaker 1: day before that I had a baby inside of my
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  Speaker 1: belly and I was like, oh my gosh, should I
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  Speaker 1: be riding this horse? And I can't tell anyone, But
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  Speaker 1: that's the closest I ever got to a Western, and
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  Speaker 1: I really want to do one too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't it be fun?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely? You said before net Bo baby. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: that term, because I'm sure you've heard it. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: people have thrown it around for you. I've heard it
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  Speaker 1: regarding my kids, Like, how do you feel about it? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what are your feelings about netbo baby stupid?
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  Speaker 2: I just like it's so dumb, it's such a like
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  Speaker 2: it's it's the negative connotations to it are so stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Like for me, I always felt like, what how great
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  Speaker 2: my dad and family felt that, Like I watched their
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  Speaker 2: careers and then I chose to do the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot like my daughter's orthodontist who
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  Speaker 2: inherited his practice from his father, who is an orthodontist. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's cool. I think it's cool to do
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  Speaker 2: the same thing that your parents.
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  Speaker 1: It is like, come on, I wish I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: wish I could do that. That sounds like fun, right
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  Speaker 1: unless your remember and I'm just fully having a moment
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  Speaker 1: where I was watching White Lotus. Did you watch it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: unless you're Schwartzenegger's his dad, you don't want to go
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  Speaker 1: into the same business as him. No, he was following
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  Speaker 1: in his father's footsteps, right.
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  Speaker 2: Was he like a hedge fun guy?
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  Speaker 1: I don't even something big money, I don't know, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what, Saxon's gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 1: He was so good in that anyway. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a problem with anybody using the term NAPA baby.
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  Speaker 1: I've certainly never been had to use for me, which
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to have a use for me, but I
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  Speaker 1: never got that chance. But for my girls, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, it's really really hard to break in
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  Speaker 1: to any business, any field, any career, and if you
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  Speaker 1: have somebody that has a foot in the door, take it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell me. I got my first agent because
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  Speaker 2: his daughter was in my class in college and he
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  Speaker 2: came and saw a play that we were both in
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  Speaker 2: and said, when you come back to Los Angeles, give
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  Speaker 2: me a call. And I went in and I auditioned
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  Speaker 2: for him and they signed me. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You never you don't know, that's the thing. But you
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  Speaker 1: know you have talent. The world knows you have talent,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure, and so who really cares.
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  Speaker 2: But it's stupid, It's so stupid. So I guess I'll
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  Speaker 2: be a proud NEPO baby, But like, don't I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much it helped me.
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  Speaker 1: When your kids are how old are they?
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  Speaker 2: My son is nine and my daughter is fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: You're ready for a teenager?
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  Speaker 2: It's on right, it's on. It's like a donkey though.
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  Speaker 2: I will say like thirteen was sort of the bumpier
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  Speaker 2: ride because she's really went for being like a kid too.
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  Speaker 2: Then you know, a teenage girl and on her way
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  Speaker 2: to being an adult. But no, fourteen, we're sort of
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  Speaker 2: forgetting our bearings. She's awesome. He's a great student, great kid,
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  Speaker 2: great big sister.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then my little dude just wants to play baseball.
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  Speaker 1: He's into baseball.
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  Speaker 2: All we do. He's on travel team and a wrec team.
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  Speaker 2: All we do is go to baseball.
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  Speaker 1: You're a baseball mom.
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  Speaker 2: I'm such a baseball mom.
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  Speaker 1: I was a soccer mom. I don't know soccer mom
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  Speaker 1: has a bad rap. I don't know baseball mom.
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  Speaker 2: Soccer is too stressful for me. It's so much yelling.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Oh gosh, hopefully it's not the mom doing it
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  Speaker 1: that gets you in trouble. I wouldn't know, But.
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  Speaker 2: Now I don't have any negative connotations to soccer moms thing.
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  Speaker 2: You got to bring your own chair.
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  Speaker 1: The chairs and the blankets and the snacks scraps.
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  Speaker 2: I can't with the snacks.
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  Speaker 1: And it's an all day thing, like you're out there
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  Speaker 1: all day.
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  Speaker 2: Or you're in like Temecula or.
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  Speaker 1: Something and the dust blowing, it's fun. I'm just let's
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  Speaker 1: just say, I'm happy those years are over for my daughters.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, like you said before, kids don't they're so humbling.
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  Speaker 1: They don't care if their mama's famous or a truck driver.
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  Speaker 1: They just want their food.
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  Speaker 2: They just want a good snack.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever find yourself embarrassing, especially your daughter at
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  Speaker 1: this age? Like you all the time, all the time,
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  Speaker 1: right when you breathe my basis.
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  Speaker 2: I'm loud. I don't really care what people think. I
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  Speaker 2: don't care like you know, I just this is who
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  Speaker 2: I am, and it is at fourteen. It's really like
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  Speaker 2: the opposite of what you want. We were in Toronto
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  Speaker 2: and we went to see Taylor Swift. We went to
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  Speaker 2: the Aras tour and a bunch of my cast mirror
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  Speaker 2: and we got to go. We were like in the
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  Speaker 2: area with Mama Swift and it was like dream come true.
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  Speaker 2: And I danced and sang my ass off and she
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I've had that phase with my daughters.
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  Speaker 1: But the last time when we went to see Taylor Swift,
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  Speaker 1: Fiona and I flew to Miami, I think with her
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  Speaker 1: friend to see it, and we all just danced to
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  Speaker 1: have the best time. They didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, wasn't the best night ever?
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  Speaker 1: Best night ever? I know it was as if because
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you were a Madonna fan when you were
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  Speaker 1: growing up.
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  Speaker 2: But I never saw her in concert me either, No, no.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't see her when she did this tour.
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  Speaker 2: Neither did I.
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  Speaker 1: I missed it. It like it came and then it
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  Speaker 1: went away and then it came back and I missed it.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: The best was like my we were all we were
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  Speaker 2: in Toronto and my family came to visit because we
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  Speaker 2: were shooting over Thanksgiving, and you know how it is,
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  Speaker 2: you never know what your schedule is going to be.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, you guys, have the week off school,
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  Speaker 2: come to Toronto, will bag you as Thanksgiving and we'll
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  Speaker 2: go to Taylor Swift. Get the tickets to Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 2: And my husband I was like, I don't know, three
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  Speaker 2: and a half I like Taylor, but three and a
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  Speaker 2: half hours, like you can do it. Cut to We're
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  Speaker 2: at the Ara's tour and within ten minutes, Kobe has
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  Speaker 2: like his hands in a heart above his head he's
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  Speaker 2: making he's taking selfies, the tailor behind him dancing like
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  Speaker 2: oh also, so all in the amassive boy that she
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  Speaker 2: is able to generate with a collective group of people
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  Speaker 2: is like, just it's.
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  Speaker 1: Just a good time? Is such a good good time?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think your kids, or one of them at least,
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  Speaker 1: will go into the biz?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Are yours or any of yours?
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe not really, They're all creatives for sure. Yeah, my
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: eighteen year old is thinking about it. Yeah, so yeah,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: but she's eighteen now, so I've held her off this long.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's great. No, my daughter, I don't believe
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: this is what. No, I don't think so. And then
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: my son is cheeky and hammy, but he really you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: and I support this if he believes it. He thinks
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: he goes from high school to the miners to the
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: major league, And I'm like, you know what, buddy, do
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: it work for that?
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Love to have a professional baseball player as his son.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: So that would be so fun.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: It'd be so fun.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: What kind of conversation are you having with your kids
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: around like the state of the world right now? I mean,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: it's impossible to shield them from the news these days,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: like what do you do in your house to keep
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: them protected?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I mean it's so hard, right because you want them
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: to be protected, but you also want to, like you
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: want them to understand what's happening. So I mean, they
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: know I am a big voter. I am a part
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: of an organization called Vote Mama, And what we do
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: is we raise funds to get mothers elected from everything
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: from school board to Senate because a lot of times
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: when mothers are finally able to run for office, their
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: kids are out of the house. So what Mama does
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: is try to help support these women to get them
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: in office. Well, the things that you're juggling, like the
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: things that you're thinking about with the four year old,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: you're able to then bring into policy, so they know
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: voting is important. We always vote together. When was overturned,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: we had a long talk about you know, my body,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: my choice, and nobody should be able to tell me
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: what to do about it. And you know, I think
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: we talk about everything.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: My son.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I guess I shield him a little bit more, but
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, talk and listen. You know, kids ask
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the darkest things.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, yeah, and they know so much, so much,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and they're exposed to so much. Like there's something inside
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: of me that's so sad about it because you and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I grew up in such a different time.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I know, my daughter goes to a girls' school, and
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: so what I do love about that is she's definitely
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: getting a very strong foundation of female friendships, speaking up
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: in class, and doing all the things that she should
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: be able to do at fourteen that sometimes get a little,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you know, hampered by cute fourteen year old boys in
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the same classroom.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're telling me, I know. Feeling I just feel
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: like it's my daughter goes to co ed school and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: there's just so much drama and not enough learning.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: So it is nice like that's the one piece of
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the drama, and she wanted to go to this school,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: so that is the one piece of drama that she
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: was able to kind of eliminate from her student Christol experience.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah great, Yeah, I mean, even just speaking about it
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: feels like oddly we're kind of in this anti feminist
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: sort of weird time and history right now, like Tradwives
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and the road Wade and it's what bananas It's yeah,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: it's all the fruits combined with a banana and like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I'm on The Handmaid's Tale.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like, this is not
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: what I always say about the show. Is like being
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: on set. I look around and nobody's happy in a dictatorship,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Like nobody in Gilead is happy.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Like nobody.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I promise you all, this is not the future or
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that we want forced birds, it's not the it's not
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: what we want. Guys. It's not good, it's not end well.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: No, Yeah, you're like a woman who supports women, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it sounds like your daughter's off to a really great
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: start of understanding the importance of that. I don't think
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I understood that as a young girl woman. Yeah, I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: mean well in the industry.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's great for her little brother
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to see, you know, he idolizes her, even though he
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: thinks that he doesn't, he does.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I devoured the book Handmaid's Tale?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: When did you read it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Before the show came out? Which I was so happy
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: about because then I had a better understanding what was happening. Yeah,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: on the show, and I've watched it since season one, Yes,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm really sad this is the final season.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Can you believe it? Well? The thing that people don't
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: often remembers, like when we started the show, Obama was
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: still president.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: That remember those things. I remember those days.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Obama was still president. So after Trump was elected,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I was in Toronto and my pink hat marching with
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the good people of Canada, great people we were. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: had another Trump victory while I was in Toronto.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's quite interesting. It's been quite a ride,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: such a journey. Six season. I feel like I had
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to wait forever for the season to come.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Out though, because it was a sag after strike, and
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: then some babies were born and so we just needed
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: a second and you know, it's always cold and gilliad also,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: so you had to wait for it to be fall
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: before we could all go back to work.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: What's been your favorite thing about developing your character?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You play Naomi nam but now Naomi Lawrence.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, how did that happen? Wait?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: How did I Naomi? Yes? I was like, how did
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I get my auditioned? No? Auditioned A long long time ago. No.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Naomi's husband what's his name? Warren, played by Stephen Conkin,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: was murdered or executed in five by Max Miguela and
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Bradley Whitford.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Then he's such a bad guy, I know.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: And then at the end of season five, aunt Lydia
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: sort of suggests that Naomi should marry Lawrence because we
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: can keep each other safe. Because Lawrence's wife, Ellen Moore,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: had also died, but she died she wasn't executed, so
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: that's how that happened. It's an arranged marriage.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Arranged marriage. Does Naomi like him?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think Naomi likes power. I don't know
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: if you're caught up, but I'm not caught up. Okay,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: she tries, she's trying her best. You know, Naomi is
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: as she's not quite as easy going as I am.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: No, true, true, She's kind of a people's business, like
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: she likes the she's just.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: A busy body. Like what I always say is like
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: she's very present, do you know what I mean. Like
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: she's like a little gnat, Like she's just kind of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: taking it all in and very reactive to the moment
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: at hand. But like she doesn't really hold a grudge.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: She's a little like a toddler in that way. Like
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: remember toddlers would like have a fit and you'd get
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: yell at you'd yell at them, and then two seconds
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: later they were like, can I have a string cheese?
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Like there's no sort of like registering that that the
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: tantrum just happened. So I always say she's a little toddlery.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: She's a little like Nelly Olsen from Oh My God.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Perfect comparison right with the ring it's so ringless. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: know she if she that's probably what she wore as
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: a girl. Oh yeah, little curls.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Little curls. What's been your favorite part of filming a
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: show like this? I mean, what an honor to be
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: able to bring this story to life.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I can't even like I can't even believe I get
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to be on the show, Like I can't. I just
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: you know, this is like we're we're like we're in
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: a circus, Like we go from one gig to the next,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and summer for money and some are for art, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you know, you sort of you piece me all this
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: thing together. And when I first read this show, I
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: read for a different role, which I didn't get, and
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I was heartbroken because it was like the best pilot
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I'd ever read. And then not soon after I was
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I read for Naomi and I got the job, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I really felt like people joke about this, but I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: was like, I'll do anything like whatever you want me
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: to do on the show, Like I just I just
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: want to be there. And I got to work and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I had never seen you know, we shoot on the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: actual location a lot, so it's very immersive. Like the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: house was this giant, like twenty million dollar mansion in
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the middle of a really posh area of Toronto, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I just like everywhere I looked was like a handmaid
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: or a guy with a gun or something like. It
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: also makes your job a lot easier when it's that
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: immers and I don't know, I really believe in like
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: speaking up for people's rights and speaking up for injustices
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and just saying the thing when you can say the thing,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and being a part of this show has definitely like
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: turned the volume up on my voice, and that is
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: not that's it's appreciated. I love that aspect about it
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: because also so much of being an actor is like
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: self serving. You know, it's fun job, Like look what
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I get to do for a living, and so that
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: part of it really feels like it's like a cherry
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: on top of an already delicious Sunday.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: When you say you get to use your voice now
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: what does that mean for you?
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It means, you know, I can use an image from
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: The Handmaid's Tale, and then I can use an image
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: of children being separated from their parents at the border.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: And I think that people will a lot of people
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: react and tell me I'm dramatic in a lib playing
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and all these aws and and other people really see it,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and they run with that and they feel inspired to
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: also say something and yeah, I don't know where this
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: world is in a really tricky spot. And I think
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: that this show is a lot of things. It's beautiful,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: it's creative, everybody's really good on it. The director's incredible,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the writing is top notch. But it's also like a
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: warning shot to open your eyes and pay attention to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the things that are happening around you. You know, there's
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: a great, a great quote which is like, even in
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: a slowly heating bathtub, you will eventually boil to death.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And that's like the heats up. I botched that quote
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but you get it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: No, I got it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Yeah that Margaret out with baby, Oh yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that makes sense.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Wow when you get that backlash, Yeah, from speaking of
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: what happens to you a few things.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't really care, Like personally, I don't. I
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: don't give a shit to a shoot crap good, right,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: But I have to like resist the temptation to like
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: say snarky things back if it's on the Internet. And
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: sometimes I do it and sometimes I don't. I don't
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: generally block people because I'm like, you know whatever, if
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you guys want to duke it out here, duke it out.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll maybe take a screenshot of a really horrible
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: comment and put it in my Instagram stories and be like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: this is what people are saying everybody. I guess that
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: would be shaming. Maybe I shame the haters, but you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: first and foremost, like I don't, I'm rubber your glue.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? I know well enough
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: to not to.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Not Wait, what's the whole expression.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'm rubber your glue. Whatever you say bounces off me
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: and sticks to you.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Oh that's that. Oh my god, I'm glad you clarify that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I know, Thank you, Margaret. You've done a lot of
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the things, but not that or what is it like
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: point a finger of me to point back at me,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: like the whole the whole thing, like look, in the mirror, dude,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So so true, but you know when I see things
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, how do you read like people are
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: so quick to be cruel and the people that are.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Cruel have you ever noticed they're always like at MoMA
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: three with puppies, or like at Mama stay mama, or
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: these are made up names everybody, But yeah, there are
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: always people that are like light love in the Lord
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that come at you and just call the most vile,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: insane names. That's been my experience anyway.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I'm sure like just your cast in
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: general gets so much. I think because of the content.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: People get a lot of it. And I also get
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a like, you're you know what, You're an actress, stay
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: out of politics, And I'm like, what are talking about?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I'm an American and I'm a woman, Like I'm just
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: as much as right to say something as every single
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: other person on this planet.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: But there is interesting how they put you into that
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: category though.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, oh, stain your lane, Like speaking by lane.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: There's no lanes anymore?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: What lane? What's the lane?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I know? But at the same time, I feel like
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: we're regressing having lanes again.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I know, we really are, and that's why it's so important.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I love that you have three daughters who I'm sure
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: use their voices whenever they can. Like it's just like, ugh.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: That's a good sound effect, very much. You should really
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: do some yeah voiceover work. Maybe I don't know. Well, okay,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: So when you're doing a show like Can't Maid's Tale
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and you're you're talking about such heavy stuff every day
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and the environment is oppressive in the in the context
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: of what you're what you're doing, the scenes, acting, whatever,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: how does that feel to you at the end of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a work day.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, I mean, here's the thing. This set is
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: not doesn't feel oppressive like the scenes do. And the
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: scenes are real, and I think that, you know, everyone
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: would agree that everybody on this show takes the work seriously,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: but not themselves. Do you know what I mean? There's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: levin he there's joy, there's laughter. I work with Bradley Whitford,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: who like always keeps me laughing, which is such a
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: gift because sounds counterintuitive. But like to play Naomi and
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to play that uptight, I kind of do need to
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: be relaxed, you know what I mean, Like, if ever
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: is uptight, then Naomi's gonna be. I don't know what
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: she's gonna be, but you know, uh, there have been
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of days with like a nice stiff drink
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: at the hotel bar. A walk in the fold in
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Toronto goes a long way to decompress.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: You walk along. Oh, you're in.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Toronto, Toronto. And the thing about this show also is
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: like there have been so many markers on this show.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Like I was there when Trump was elected. I was
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: there when Ukraine was invaded. I was there when Roe
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: was overturned. I always say I landed at Toronto Pearson
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and by the time I got to my hotel room,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: my son had more rights than my daughter. Biden was elected,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I was here, I was there for much of COVID,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and then I was there for another Trump election. So
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: there have been a lot of markers. And after the
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: election this year, I was alone and I actually went
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: to work. I didn't have to work that day, and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I was texting A. Vaughan and whoever else was on set,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and it was understandably like a really hard dark day,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: and I just went to work to be around my people.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good that you've all had those experiences together, though,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and such a bond. I'm sure it's great.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: It's a really sorry that made me like choked up,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: it's a really It's a genuinly lovely group of people, truly,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: and they're all as kind as they are talented.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I find myself in positions where people are always saying,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: do you have anything for this auction? Do you have
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: any memorabilia? Did you steal anything from the set? Do
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you have anything of Kelly Taylor's that you could we
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: could have or photograph or whatever? Did you have you
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: taken anything from the set?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, So here's the like, I'm such a
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: like good girl. I didn't take it. I realized I
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: should have at the time, and then the person who
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: was to send it to me, I was like, can
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you just ask forgiveness, not permission? You just put it
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: in the mail. So it's coming. And I have one
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: of Naomi's, you know, her capes like what we wear
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: outside when it was and like my favorite outfit, and
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: then some Naomi. I always liked her in really really
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: really tall heels because I just like her to feel
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: kind of like bony and towering over people, like it
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: just sort of has to a picture to me. So
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I have a pair of her very very high shoes
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: as well. Did I take anything else? I don't think
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I have anything else I should have twenty twenty right,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: it really is. But Maddie, who plays my Handmaid, she
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: took her, she wrapped and just stuffed her red dress
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: right in her backpack and her bonnet and her eye
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: patch and got on a plane home.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Good for her, I know.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I was like, Maddie, I should have done that, But no,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: mine's coming good.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I'm so good.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: So if I'm Naomi Putnam for Halloween, that's why I have.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I have my crossing ready, keep.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: It forever, Keep it forever. They're going to do a sequel, right.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Well, they're doing. I'm not You should read that The Testaments,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: which is her the testing Margarett would follow up to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: The Handmaid's Tail. Oh, I got to read it follows
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: aunt Lydia. So I don't want to spoil anything.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't know. I can't Lydia.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like her, but you need to talk to
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: a Dowd. And Dowd is like the best person in
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: the whole wide world. I'm sure absolute Lou greatest, the
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: great It's so funny, be good, so like living is
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: so intense, and then they all cut. She's like, how's
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Kobe Darling? Like what She's just she's so yummy. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: love her. I love her.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just I'm so happy for you and your
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: career's longevity, and you know, rooting for you for what's next.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, thank you. I'll look back and you're like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: how am I? I don't know how? I'm fifty and
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, when did that happen?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: That's right, you're in the fifty club.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I can get in the fifty club. I for myself
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: a nice big birthday party, but.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good for you, fifty, good for you?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like fifty. I don't get it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: No, how did this happen?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Don't know?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I just I follow you. I'll follow you. I'll
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: continue watching and supporting you always.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Oh it's quite a right. I'm excited for you to
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: see how this season shakes out, because they're right to
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: me too. Did stick the landing? I think?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Good? Perfect? Okay? Before I let you go? Ever, Carrodane,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: what was your last I choose me moment?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this a lot.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Good and I have two on me.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: My I choose me is my garden. I don't have
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: a gardener. I do our gardening. I do our planting.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I do our trimming, and so like, if I find
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: myself sort of in the La crazies or spinning, I
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: will just put my gardening gloves on and my clogs
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: and prune and weed and we have sort of like
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: a little English garden and I'm proud of it and
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I love how it makes me feel. The other day
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I did it barefoot. I was like, maybe that'll be
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: like grounding. Maybe that's like yeah thing or something like that.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: And then the other thing I did I sort of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: was it's so funny when someone's like, what's your choose
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: me and you're like, I don't know. I have kids,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I choose them.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: A lot of people say.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: But at the end of twenty twenty three, I sort of,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you know, everyone on social media posts like these are
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the books I read this year and Obama's list, and
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like Obama at fifty five books, Like what am
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I doing with my time? So at the beginning of
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: twenty four I started a book group and the goal
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: was a book a month, and the book group is
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: kicking ass, and it's this incredible group of like it's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: like ten to fifteen of us. We meet every month
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: and we read a book or two a month and
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: it's totally awesome and it is a non negotiable. I
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: have book group on the first Wednesday of every month period.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: End of story.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: That's my I love that. Who's in your book group?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Who's in my book group? But there's a lot of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: people in my book. Girl you might know as Meredith
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Salinger is in my book group, meredithal And then a
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: lot of moms who I've met over the years, either
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: through preschool or school. And then some other women in
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the book group brought in a friend and we all
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: just sort of mesh, great, it's been really it's I
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: highly recommend a book.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: What book are you reading right now? Then?
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Currently we are reading two books because we're we're like that, I.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Know, we're reading over Achievers. I know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: We just read East of et In, So we're sort
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: of revisiting some classics, which if you haven't read, I really.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: It's been a million it's really good.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: We read it during the fires and it's really a
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: love letter to California. We're reading House of mirth. And
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: then we're reading a collection of essays by a friend
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: called Mothers and Other Fictional Characters, which is also wonderful.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And I know the author, Nicole, and so she's going
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to zoom in at our next book group and we're
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: all going to get to kind of chat with her
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: about her memoir.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Oh that's exciting, fun, right, it's fun. I love it
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that you did that. I heard that if you read
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a book for even twenty minutes a day, it has
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: such significant help of your mental health.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and like you know a lot of us, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: feel like, and I say this with no judgment, like
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: end of the day, I'd be sitting on the chair
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: looking at my.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Phone and I was like scrolling.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, but I want my kids to see me doing
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: so I really make an effort to just at the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: end of the day for fifteen minutes or chapter and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: just sit out there and then if they need something,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: they come out when they find me, I have a
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: book in my hand and my phone.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I love that. You just inspired me. Thank you. I'm
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: going to pick up a book instead of my phone
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: today when I have it like ten minutes.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Do it do you want? Do you need a book? Recommend.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Uh No, I'm behind.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: You like I have plenty. I know that's how my
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: qistand is. I don't know. I'm a capacity.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: No more book, no more room in the book in Yeah,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: but thank you so much for being on and I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: know everybody's going to just love our chat.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you so much for having me.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: We'll see you all right, take care of R bye,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Danny Biever