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INTERVIEW: Ty Dolla $ign Talks New Album 'TYCOON', Signing Leon Thomas, Fatherhood, Kanye, EZMNY Records + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Every day a waiting click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You don't finish for y'all done morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's d J n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy
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  Speaker 3: we are the breakfast Club. Lon LaRosa is here as well.
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  Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building, Tie Dollar Sign.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 1: Plus black and Holly favored new album Tycoon coming?
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  Speaker 5: That's how you're feeling, yeaes, sir, Tycoon on the way
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  Speaker 5: ten seventeen.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think defines the tie dollar sign sound
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  Speaker 6: right now? Because a lot of people say you've helped
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  Speaker 6: shape like the modern R and B signd So what
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  Speaker 6: what what defines the tie dollar sign sound right now?
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  Speaker 2: Just taking your time in finding the right you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, damn, that's a question right there.
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  Speaker 1: That's what interviews are four times a questions.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good question. What is the sound ship? The
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  Speaker 2: shit fucking greatness? There we go?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, at what point did you realize that you had
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  Speaker 7: more to offer the world. I saw something where you
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  Speaker 7: talked about like, you know, this album being for people
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  Speaker 7: who you know, you dream, but you know it's more
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  Speaker 7: to you.
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  Speaker 8: When did you realize that about till sign?
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  Speaker 5: I realized that like early, early, but especially when I
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  Speaker 5: got my first job. My first job was when I
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  Speaker 5: was like sixteen, and it was at a subway sandwiches,
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  Speaker 5: and uh, I was in there going through the you
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  Speaker 5: know when they teach you everything, and I didn't come back.
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  Speaker 2: I went one day and that was it.
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  Speaker 4: I can't do this, it's not for me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to go make music and figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: Is that why you am I getting this ready? That
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  Speaker 1: where you met like YG and everybody back then?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, you met me someway sandwich. Now I
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  Speaker 2: was much later though.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, why tycoon?
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  Speaker 5: Why is that the name of the tycoon? Because that's
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  Speaker 5: where I'm staying up and into my greatness. It's a
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  Speaker 5: it came from a Japanese word great lord, and you
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  Speaker 5: know over here in English it's like top of your game,
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  Speaker 5: top of your business. I did the artist thing. I
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  Speaker 5: started the record label Easy Money. We signed our first artist,
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  Speaker 5: Leon Thomas. He's now Leon Thomas.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think you get enough credit for that, like
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  Speaker 6: people like people mention it, but it's like no, that's
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  Speaker 6: time that was not artists, which says a lot. Like
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  Speaker 6: I always say, you know, you become a true legend
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  Speaker 6: when you're.
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  Speaker 5: Tree bands fruit Exactly. Yeah, man, So shout out to Leon.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a champagne owner. Now it's the champagne. What else
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  Speaker 5: we got? I'm about to drop a documentary. Yeah, my daughter.
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  Speaker 5: Let's talk about my daughter. My daughter's twenty years old.
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  Speaker 5: Now she's at Pepperdine getting her master's.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, shout out to her.
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  Speaker 1: Man, that's what life is about.
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  Speaker 6: Talking about in real fruits when it comes to Leon, right, like.
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  Speaker 3: How did they meet? First of all, how do y'all
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  Speaker 3: how did you sign Leon? What do y'all meet?
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  Speaker 5: We met at this studio session like during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 5: My homie uh A Lee was like, Yo, you got
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  Speaker 5: to check this out, and he played me this song,
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  Speaker 5: that California Cation song that we It's called Love Jones now,
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  Speaker 5: but the first it was Californication and then it's Love
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  Speaker 5: Jones on his first album, And really I was supposed
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  Speaker 5: to put that out, but I didn't put it out,
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  Speaker 5: and then he was like, I'm about to use it
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  Speaker 5: on my shit.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 5: We ended up signing on me and Sean Baron because
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  Speaker 5: we always talked about making a label together. Sean Baron
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  Speaker 5: is the guy who signed me to Atlantic in twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 5: and now we got a label together.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a blessing. Man.
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  Speaker 6: You know a lot of artists they'll see another artist
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  Speaker 6: with that type of talent and they'll basically like just
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  Speaker 6: take the whole or take the energy for themselves. What
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  Speaker 6: made you say, nah, man, I want you to go fly.
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  Speaker 5: On your own because it just reminded me of myself
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  Speaker 5: like at that time, just being great with people not
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  Speaker 5: knowing what to do or know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, we got the label, would you be down?
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  Speaker 5: He's like, what, let's go and we figured it out.
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  Speaker 7: What instincts do you use in business that you gather
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  Speaker 7: from music or vice versa that help you be good
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  Speaker 7: at what you do?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, It's it's a total different thing. But in business,
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  Speaker 5: I just it's all about getting the right team, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And I got a great team,
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  Speaker 5: So I just want to shout out to them because
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't do it all alone for sure.
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  Speaker 6: How do you balance being a collaborator behind a sound
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  Speaker 6: but then being an artist in front of it, because
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  Speaker 6: you know, you work and produce for people everybody, Right,
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  Speaker 6: So how do you know when to just be a
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  Speaker 6: collaborator behind the sound, but then switching ow to do
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  Speaker 6: the album and being an artist in front of the son.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, when it comes to music, I just like give
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  Speaker 5: it what it needs, you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 5: don't try to overdo it. It's like if I'm if
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it just needs my feature. Cool, if
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  Speaker 5: it's my song, it's a whole different thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it's the intention.
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  Speaker 9: And you're talking about that.
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  Speaker 10: You're also dropping a documentary Still, Free TC, what is
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  Speaker 10: that about? Give us a little bit about I know
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  Speaker 10: you don't want to spoil it.
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  Speaker 5: Free TC is basically going to show you my whole
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  Speaker 5: There's some parts that are not in there, but it's
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  Speaker 5: basically my whole thing from a kid all the way
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  Speaker 5: up until now.
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  Speaker 2: The whole trajectory like.
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  Speaker 5: Deeper than any other interview has went or any other
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  Speaker 5: any other way. You guys see me out there for sure,
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  Speaker 5: that's on the way. It's basically done. I scored the
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  Speaker 5: whole thing, and shout out to the whole team that
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  Speaker 5: put that together as well.
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  Speaker 4: Who pushes you the most as far as creative is it?
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  Speaker 4: Your artist is it.
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  Speaker 3: Another artist that you're in, whether it's YG or whoever
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  Speaker 3: it may be, who pushes you the most to say, now,
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  Speaker 3: I could do better than that.
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  Speaker 2: I think I pushed myself the hardest.
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  Speaker 5: Just from just for Karen and wanted to go to
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  Speaker 5: the next level. And it's just like, all right, that's cool,
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  Speaker 5: but what can we do different?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like, you know I've heard this before. What
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  Speaker 2: can we do? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: To take it to the next level. I get real
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  Speaker 5: bored with music, you know what I mean. It's like
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  Speaker 5: how many songs come out of day? You know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it's like, what can we do to
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  Speaker 5: make it like interesting? You know what I'm saying? What's
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  Speaker 5: the wild factor?
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  Speaker 9: What's there? Inspiration?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 10: Because your voice is like timeless on anything. Anything you
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  Speaker 10: put your voice on, it makes it a hit, right.
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  Speaker 10: I love your vocals, love your voice.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate that.
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  Speaker 9: Who is inspiration?
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  Speaker 2: Inspiration? Tons?
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  Speaker 5: It could be We can name back in the day
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  Speaker 5: artists all the way up until now. But I like Prince,
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  Speaker 5: I like di'angelo, I like Joe to See, I like Himrell,
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  Speaker 5: I like all the greatest singers, Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wander
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  Speaker 5: is my favorite male singer ever. I could just then
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  Speaker 5: there's rap, then there's like house music, then there's rock music.
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  Speaker 5: Then there's tons of things that can inspire me.
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  Speaker 9: We just love music.
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  Speaker 1: Sure you remember the first that you want? The record
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  Speaker 1: you ever heard?
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  Speaker 2: Or Stevie Wonder record. Ah, maybe isn't she lovely?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the first.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the one that you felt like you did.
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  Speaker 2: That's just what I thought of right now when you
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  Speaker 2: say you can hear it?
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  Speaker 1: Did you grow up singing in church?
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  Speaker 2: No? I didn't. I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't really want people to know I could sing
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  Speaker 5: back then. I didn't really like all the way know
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  Speaker 5: how to sing back then, but it was in me.
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  Speaker 5: But I was playing bas in church though.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, when did you first start singing?
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  Speaker 2: I first started singing when I was a kid, but
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  Speaker 2: like publicly what was her name? What was her name?
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  Speaker 5: That was really my pops that got me into singing,
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  Speaker 5: because y'all know my pops. He did music as well.
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  Speaker 5: He still does music to this day. He just sent
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  Speaker 5: me this video of him playing somewhere playing trumpet. But uh, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 5: it's just it's just something that I've always loved and
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  Speaker 5: I get to make money off of it, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean?
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  Speaker 9: Why don't you want people to know you could sing?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 9: What was that about?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It was just I just didn't feel comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it was some shy shit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I was easier, it was easier to just play an
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  Speaker 2: instrument or Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: When you look at our R and B is evolved.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think missing from the genre right now?
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  Speaker 2: What's missing from the genre right now? And R and
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  Speaker 2: B is uh? Other subjects? M hmm, it's like everybody
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  Speaker 2: just in like black music period, it's like.
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  Speaker 5: The same subjects, you know what I'm saying. I think
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  Speaker 5: we should start just talking about other things, like regular life,
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  Speaker 5: going to do LAUNDRYGGA, going to the.
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  Speaker 2: Grocery stuff, regular ship.
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  Speaker 5: When you're listening to country songs that you listen to
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  Speaker 5: just all other genres, people are down to talk about,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Other stuff, regular life stuff.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's interesting because when people think R and B,
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  Speaker 1: you automatically think love you did girls, But like what
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  Speaker 1: is you can just sing about a good.
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  Speaker 10: Day and it's relatable. It's relatable. So that's how you
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  Speaker 10: always running people over.
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  Speaker 2: So you're saying you got them type of songs on Tycoon.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, right, So what can we expect on Tycoon A
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  Speaker 10: bunch of the same song.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not, man, it's crazy. Tycoon is crazy. You're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get the You're gonna get the party, You're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get the love. You're gonna get the uh my type
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  Speaker 2: of love. You're gonna get the you know, real life.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what's.
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  Speaker 1: Your type of love? Time? Because you just said you shy?
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  Speaker 10: Nah?
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I said I was Mine may
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  Speaker 5: not be like everybody else's, but you're gonna get my
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  Speaker 5: point of view. So stay stay tuned ten seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: When you talk about soul, right, like, like, what is
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  Speaker 1: soul mean to you? Is it the sound? Is it
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  Speaker 1: the feeling? Is it the truth behind the music?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely the truth. It's the intention. Is it's
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  Speaker 5: the blackness all that?
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  Speaker 1: M hm?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So at this point with the the last the last
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  Speaker 7: thing that we said switching gears, the last thing that
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  Speaker 7: we saw with you and Kanye, right, where are y'all
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  Speaker 7: right now?
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  Speaker 8: Today? Is there? Like, what's your relationship like today.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: Six seven six, You couldn't have been shocked when he
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  Speaker 1: when he came.
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  Speaker 2: Shocked.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, you know what I always tell people, if
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  Speaker 6: you want to see how somebody's eventually gonna treat you,
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  Speaker 6: watch how they treat it us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, eventually it's gonna be your turn. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: I didn't six seven bro.
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  Speaker 9: I love Vultures one though, Thank you me too.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was a great album. Had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fun making it too.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think the world knows your full story yet?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, there's there's been some pieces. But that's why I'm
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  Speaker 5: glad I finally got to shoot this documentary of free
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  Speaker 5: TC on the way.
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  Speaker 2: Then you really get it. You're you're really like feel me,
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  Speaker 2: feel me? You feel me?
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  Speaker 6: Like, yeah, when the when the world knows your voice
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  Speaker 6: but not your full story, does that ever feel isolating?
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  Speaker 1: Like you alone?
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  Speaker 2: Nah? Because uh, what I put out was the music.
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  Speaker 5: What I wanted people to know was the music gotcha
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  Speaker 5: And then now it's like, all right, cool, I'll give
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  Speaker 5: you a little bit more.
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  Speaker 9: When did you record?
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  Speaker 5: We're actually lucky that it went this way because I
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  Speaker 5: see how it goes with other people, you know, what.
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  Speaker 1: Did you care about the bullshit before they care about exactly?
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  Speaker 9: We're good, all right? Cool? When did you record racks
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  Speaker 9: with Tory Lanees and Loder uh ship a minute ago? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but just rebound them.
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  Speaker 8: And what about Tycoon with Baby in future?
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know about that? Yeah, we just did that recently.
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  Speaker 8: So the studio, No, I was gonna say all not
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  Speaker 8: all in the same studio.
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  Speaker 2: Not all in the same studio. Nah, mhm.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like doing interviews, he does not, And it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like doing interviews with y'all.
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  Speaker 5: How long you've been doing each other, you're comfortable, like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's only one show.
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  Speaker 2: You know you can't I'm like, what, nigga, it's regular.
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  Speaker 1: But if you can just do the music, you'd rather
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  Speaker 1: just do the music.
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  Speaker 5: Nah, because we gotta do this part. People want to know,
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  Speaker 5: people want to know what's up, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: And it's like, I don't mind. It's all a part
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  Speaker 5: of the job. I don't mind eating right, working out,
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  Speaker 5: waking up, fucking not sleeping. It's way more than just music,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So if you thought you
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  Speaker 5: was just gonna do music. Good luck, my nigga.
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  Speaker 6: Is it easier to do it now since you are
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  Speaker 6: like such an established artist though, like people do know
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  Speaker 6: tie down?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, I wouldn't say it's easier now. I say
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  Speaker 5: we had to go through so much to get to
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  Speaker 5: this point, and now I would want to say it's
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  Speaker 5: on airplane mode.
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  Speaker 2: But it's still motherfucking you know. It's like that too
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  Speaker 2: when you.
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  Speaker 7: Say you had to go through so much, was it
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  Speaker 7: because your sound was so new for a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Of people or yeah, just think of it like this. Man,
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  Speaker 5: my shit didn't boom until I was twenty seven. I've
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  Speaker 5: been making music since I was like nine years old. Wow,
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  Speaker 5: you know, so thank God for that. And I'm forty now.
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  Speaker 5: What keeps you grounded?
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  Speaker 6: When fame and ego and chaos feel like it's just
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  Speaker 6: part of the industry rhythm?
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  Speaker 5: Like yeah, I mean, I just stay doing me and
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  Speaker 5: not being on bullshit when other people be on bullshit, laugh,
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  Speaker 5: do whatever you gotta do, scroll next.
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  Speaker 2: But I stayed doing me. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I'm about my shit. I'm bout my business.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know you had a twenty year old Yeah. Wow,
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  Speaker 6: So how's that been like?
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  Speaker 2: You know me.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just saying, growing up in the industry, you always
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  Speaker 6: clearly had a different purpose if you.
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  Speaker 5: Knew I had a daughter though, right or no. That's
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  Speaker 5: the thing about these interviews. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: Some people don't know and I've been knowing you forever,
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  Speaker 5: so yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean twenty of the big age.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she was nine and now she's twenty. That's
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  Speaker 2: how it comes.
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  Speaker 5: That should be quick though, Like I remember, my mom
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  Speaker 5: used to always say, like how fast life goes and
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  Speaker 5: you don't realize it until that's real.
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  Speaker 2: Ship.
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  Speaker 5: For me, it was like after the pandemic. It's like
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  Speaker 5: when you were going through that pandemic, it was one thing,
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  Speaker 5: and then after it, even the music industry I feel
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  Speaker 5: like just changed.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a whole switch up.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, good a bad, good in
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  Speaker 5: some ways, bad in some ways.
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  Speaker 10: How does somebody get to know you if they're dating you,
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  Speaker 10: how do you How do you just.
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  Speaker 5: Got communication and being around every day? That's how you
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  Speaker 5: get to know me?
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I just wanted to know because you ain't giving
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  Speaker 9: us ship.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I'm want me to give you.
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  Speaker 10: No, no, no, you're just a man of very few words.
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  Speaker 10: So I'm like, you know what, how would it be
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  Speaker 10: like dating him? Like I wonder if if she finds out,
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  Speaker 10: if does it take her like years to find out?
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna find out everything first day, first couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 5: I would just said, we just said. I like transparency.
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  Speaker 5: I like you to know what's up. I don't like surprises,
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  Speaker 5: and I don't like playing with people, and I don't
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  Speaker 5: like people playing with me. So if if you funk
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: with it, let's let's see what we're gonna do.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: You don't be telling these girls everything, and I'll.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Be telling them everything real, I'll be telling them everything,
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: and they know each other dying.
• 15:45
  Speaker 10: I was about to say, because we was talking about
• 15:53
  Speaker 10: the old cam Newton thing, and do you have to
• 15:57
  Speaker 10: know a girl's body?
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: County the count I don't know what are they really
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: going to tell me?
• 16:03
  Speaker 10: It's the question or if they've ever slept with anybody
• 16:06
  Speaker 10: else in industry that you may rub elbows.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Where you may be met question.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: That is a question, I asked, And I will tell
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: you if we walk into a room and oh yeah,
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: just so.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: You know you know what I mean?
• 16:17
  Speaker 9: Gotcha?
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: No, surprises, no surprises.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: And are you willing to stay with a girl or
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: she been with like a few of the homies.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Stay with I don't know a few of the homies
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: is crazy. But you know what's funny, man, It's like
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: I've run into a couple and it'd be a couple. Yeah,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: you know it's happened more than one time where oh yeah,
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: well him him or him him and him or maybe.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Can you take that serious though relationship?
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: Say it be fucked up because you already like him
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: by the time you find out they be like.
• 16:54
  Speaker 10: Damn, But you can't take that back though it was
• 16:59
  Speaker 10: before you.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: You try to, you try to think of it like.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: In your side every time you see the homie, but.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: And you walk off, you look back and you see
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: him in the other honey like.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: RB nigga think he doing something?
• 17:16
  Speaker 9: Damn you?
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: I mean your R and B. But it's like a
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: different type of R and B.
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: Are you like an emotional person in a relationship and
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: that gives you for your music too?
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Or yeah, I can be sure, I could definitely be emotional.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: How much of that comes?
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: How much of that comes from your own personal highs
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: and lows?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: What do you mean by that the emotion, the emotion
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: that you put in music. How much of that comes
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: from your own personal.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: In my music?
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, some of it's personal. Some of it's like if
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: I'm doing a song with a writer, you know what
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Whatever, But I.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Still put my my passion into it, you know, I
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: still put my my whole thing into it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: What's the last thing you looked that online about yourself?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: And laugh?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Last thing I looked at online about myself? Then laughed?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: His niggas calling me jar Jar Binks.
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: He calls me that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't know who jar Jar Binks was before this.
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: And then how did you feel like when you saw him?
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: Well, when you see the one picture from the or video,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: the way my hair was, oh man, and then you
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: put it next to jar Jar Binks is actually hilarious
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: like this, it's funny.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: You didn't laugh when they said you was on on
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: screen kissing the man.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, see this nigga romany man. That's the homie. He
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: from Brazil.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: This is how he does all the homies, like, oh,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: what's and we told him like yo, he didn't actually
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: kiss me, bro if you really look close. But yeah,
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: so what nigga. I had a fish in that shirt
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: on nigga. That sh it was sexy as and your
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: bitch was loving it about that.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that used to be regular fish that back
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: in then.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Like I forgot what type of shirt that ship was,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: but that she was expensive too, and I like it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: So he was the jamaking shirt back in the day.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It was did you have Did you have to explain
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: that to anybody? Though?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I don't ever have to explain ship.
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: You don't say.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: You had to laugh though.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: It was funny. I definitely called that nigga like, bruh, See,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I told your stupid ass, we don't even That's not
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: how it is out here. We don't do that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: What do you say?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: He was like, man, I'm gonna be me every time,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I ain't got well this nigga, well
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: he's married and ship.
• 19:40
  Speaker 9: But yeah, what's your favorite favorite collaboration?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: That your favorite collaboration I ever made is a miracle
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: on my first album Free TC and I was with
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: my brother uh TC d log my sister was singing
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: on their everybody I like those like family, you know
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: That's what's I saw you say? That is this album?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: You said it's perfect for shrooms.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Nah, I hate shrooms.
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: An interview cap that you did during the.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Media room when I said what tycoon.
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: I thought it was Tycoon?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, that must have been wrong. Nigga.
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: Again, I'm looking at it right here, it's posted. Is
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: it a live interview? But you know, maybe the.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Back back in the day.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, shrooms, it can be fun people live, but if
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: a bad thing happens on shrooms, it's that same energy
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: of the greatness reverse. So I forgot what song it was.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: I think it was motion, like this song right before
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Vultures that I put out. I was going to do
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: radio interviews up and down California. Start off in the Bay,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: drive down. It's just me, the red from Atlantic and
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: the driver and I'm like, you know what, I'm about
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: to take one of these little corners of this chocolate bar.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Go. Do these interviews be a funny ass? Nigga? Like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: have all the energy you feel me early morning? All
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the shit?
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: It worked well. I went and started and did my interviews.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: It was going crazy, just having fun. Then we get
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: back in the car and I'm looking at the phone
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: and the homies just like, well, I actually talked to
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: my homie the day before and he was in the
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: hospital and I was supposed to go see him the
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: next day. I had to go do these interviews, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: my plan was as soon as I got back to
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: LA I was going to go to the hospital.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: But on the drive down.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: They said he passed away while I'm on mushrooms in
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the backseat by myself and nobody to talk to. And
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: it's just like ah yeah, and it made me just
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: like never want to fuck with that shit ever again.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, long lived my brother big why yeah ship mm hmm.
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: I got something.
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: I was reduced soon as I went on. No, you
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: never did the actual plant. That was just a see chocolate.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I thought about that part too, that was the chocolate one.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: And back in the day when it was the actual plant,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: yeah it was. I had way better times. So I
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: don't know all that.
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: All that candy ship, No you need that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know the story was gonna be dark.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: If I know it's gonna be.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: The trip, you know what I mean, Maybe there's like that,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Maybe there's true. Maybe we just kept somebody off of
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: doing drugs, you feel.
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: Me, Yeah, for sure, definitely especially the chocolate.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: You you you owned your publishing, right, Yeah, you sold
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: it in what twenty eighteen?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I think I sold some of it some of it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, tell people the importance of owning your publisher and
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: being able to do that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very important because you could sell it shut up,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: or you could keep it and just gain more wealth,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: gain more wealth and sell one day.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: It's just like any business. Right you start a fashion
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: like a whatever, a clothing thing or a food thing
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: or whatever, a car company. The goal is build that
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: ship all the way up and then sell it move
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: to the next business.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Right, So you know, niggas don't be understanding that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Though it's crazy, it's very simple Mathough, guys.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: What what made you think long term?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: That early though?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Because a lot of people selling publishing out the gate?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: What made you?
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I really felt like this selling the publishing thing is
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: a newer thing that I started hearing about. I didn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: used to hear about it back in the day. Like
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: over the last four years, I've been hearing about people
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: selling the publishing. So luckily my catalog is crazy, so
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I was able to, you know, stack up and do
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: a whole start a whole new business.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: When you think about technology and AI and how it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: changing music.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: What excites you and worries you about the future.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: What worries me is the laziness of people. Right.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: It's like, now that we have cell phones, niggas don't
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: remember numbers. Maybe that's not important, you know what I
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: mean no more, But back in the day, you have
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: to remember numbers, you have to remember directions, you have to.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Remember all the shit. Fucking I'm sure niggas in school
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: go right to the phone for everything instead of actually
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: using their brains. So it's gonna make people lazier. But
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: at the same time, it's going to create new sounds
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and new shit that we didn't have before.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: You know, what do you think about you know, like
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: they said, as an artist that somebody designed, Yeah, I
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: had I think a number one R.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: And B record or a record where they don't actually
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: need the artists. You basically are the producer.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: You create that artist.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: You hate the sound, you create the song. Yeah, you
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: gotta worry about manager.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: You ain't got to worry about glam team, you ain't
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: got to worry about security.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: You create.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's uh, I think it's fucking cool
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: for whoever figured it out and it's getting paid off
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: of it. But I'm curious to see how the show
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: is gonna go. You know what I'm saying, How the
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: fuck you're gonna pull that off? But if you could
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: do that and game fans, I'm I'll give another congrats
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: to whoever figures it out. But uh, you know, to
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: a person that spends their life learning their craft and
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: and going hard. You know, don't don't let that shit
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: discourage you, man, keep going, you know what I'm saying,
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: because I still respect motherfuckers. We really know how to
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: do it, like a me or a Leon Thomas, or
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: there's many people I can name.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: So you ain't fuck with.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: I will like on certain things like I'll fucking uh,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: they got this thing on Serato or even on Protus
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: now where I could put a song in there and
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: just take the drums or just take the baseline, or
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: just take a background vocal or whatever. And it's cool
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: on some sampling ship because back in the day you
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: could only sample the whole track, so or.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: You couldn't get an instrument, or you couldn't get a
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: capella to so simple.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I like that part of it because I
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: like making beats, and I like, you know, creating sounds.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: I wonder how that's gonna impact the writers too, because
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: if somebody just goes in and says, write me a
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Tie dollar Sign sounding record, or write me and Leon
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: Thomas sounding record, Like, it's kind of like, if that's
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: just start getting good, they don't need y'all anymore.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: In a way, I don't think it's gonna get that
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: good because it's not gonna have the what we're doing
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: out here on the streets.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: You got to always update it so we're gonna have
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: it first. You know what I'm saying.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: When you think when you talked about, you know, the
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: loss you've experienced earlier, right, how has grief reshaped your
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: relationship with music and your own mental health?
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: How has it reshaped it? I don't know if it
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: reshaped it, but I just have learned to keep a
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: focus about me. It's like, there's gonna be many hurdles
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: in the.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Way, and I I got tough skin. I will say that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: And in this business, you definitely got to have tough
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: skin for sure, because the bad shit is gonna come.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: But as long as you got that focus about you
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: you can keep going cause I.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Heard you saying earlier. Now you getting up early, you
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: working out? Yeah? Was that It wasn't always like that, right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I mean I had my time when I was working
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: out crazy and then I fell off, and then now
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: I'm back. It's like it's all in what you want
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: to do. And I felt like, I don't know. It
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: was during the pandemic, I could say, is when I
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: just like stopped caring and stopped like working out. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: then all this time it just I was putting out
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: more music, getting busy, not really like on it. But
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: now I started caring about that again and it feels good.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: It was one day when my mom was like, yo,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: do you still love what you're doing? And I was like,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: of course, I still love what I was doing out.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: She was like, I don't know, because you know, people
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: get tired, and I just couldn't see what she meant
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: by that, like why would I ever get tired of this?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Probably last year around our October, around like the same
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: time last year, I went to go perform in Miami
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: at this spot called eleven and bout a second song,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: my motherfucking back went out while I was on stage,
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I'm like, ah, And that's when I knew, Yo, you
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: gotta take this series again. You gotta get your shit together.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: So now I feel like I'm fucking twenty five again.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: That back when I was like, oh, I'm about to
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: be forty.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: No, but you're right now. You gotta take care of absolutely.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: Leon Thomas in his career is like such a success story.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: I saw you call home King of R and B
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: right when you're looking for other artists? Now, is it
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: R and B that you're trying to stand a lane
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: or like what type of artists are you looking for now?
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: For your label that you have?
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just like the greatest artists possible, like people that
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: are actually good, people that aren't just like you could
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: tell man, it's like certain people that just want to
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: get famous or just get lucky, you know what I'm saying,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: or just have popularity. And it's like that shit be cool.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: But when I was easy money, we want the real deal, you.
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: Know over at easy money, Do y'all invest in artist
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: development because that's not something that's around anymore. Like you said,
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: most people want to get famous just to be famous,
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: or you know, for the shits and giggles, the likes
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: and all that type.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: If there was something that I love that much that
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: I believed in, I would invest in that. But I'm
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: more so like working with easy lifters, meaning like that
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: you got your shit together. I've I used to have
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: my old label, the Movement. I've started many labels and
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: signed many people. But now it's like Leon has been
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: the easiest person to work with. So now that's like
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: my blueprint. It's like, if you ain't got it like that,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: then I don't even want to waste my time because
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: it's the same as I am. You know, I'm like
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: gonna come with a shit fully done. I'm gonna do
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: my part. So now when I get my team, it's like,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: all right, you do your part, you do your part,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: and we can all went together, you know what I mean.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: So I want a person that has this shit together.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: The last meeting that we went I said this in
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: another you, but I'm gonna tell it to y'all. The
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: last meeting we went to at a Capital motown for Leon.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: This nigga pulls out his laptop. O, you.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Guys got ac in my cable.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: They hook it up he PowerPoint display. This is how
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: the album's Finna go. These are the directors I want
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: to work with. These are the colors I want to use.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: This is my stage data. I'm like, oh, this is
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: all I need from Utah. Can you make this happen?
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I want to get Chris Brown on the song you
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: feel me like shit like that, like got your shit together.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Easy money and then it makes it easy.
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: You know, were there ever any artists that in all
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: of your label journeys that you didn't sign and now
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: you're like, oh, maybe they weren't all the way to
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: having their shit together, but I should have because now
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: I see them and they get it now.
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: Like artists you feel like you missed out on that.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: I missed out on, Uh not for real, like that
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I didn't have my ship together when it was like
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: when I first met YG So we did it more
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: team right, you know what I mean? But we still
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: you know, we're still rocking. He know my new song
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: I just put up small Body, Pretty Faces Kodak and
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: y G.
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: I need. I love making banger with you and Leon Thomas.
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: I got you, okay, a new question. That's what I want.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: That's what I need, Joe.
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: I ain't gonna ask you no more? All right?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Sign is a perfect person to do a crime with
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: because he ain't gonna tell the point.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I mean you can interrogate him all day. He's gonna
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: be sitting there with that hoodie on. You know you.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. Todd Coon comes out on the seventeenth.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: It's toie dollar sign. It is the Breakfast Club.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Good morning, every day.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Up week, click your ass up, the Breakfast Club. You
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: don't finish for y'all done.