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NFC Predictions: Seahawks, Cowboys, Lions & Bucs win their Divisions? | Richard Sherman Podcast · The Richard Sherman Podcast

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  Speaker 2: And you guys know what time it is. We're happy
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  Speaker 2: to be back. It's time for the NFC Podcast. preview
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna feel a little bit like an NFC West
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  Speaker 2: preview because three of the most dominant teams in the
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  Speaker 2: NFC are from the NFC West but Mitchell I know
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna let me forget about.
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  Speaker 1: Your Honolulu Blue Detroit Lions.
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  Speaker 2: In the NFC North and we got to figure out
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  Speaker 2: who's gonna win the East and then the NFC South
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  Speaker 2: is gonna be the NFC South.
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  Speaker 3: Richard it feels so good to be back man we're
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  Speaker 3: NFL kickoff. Regular season's just over a week away. Richard,
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  Speaker 3: this is like Christmas. Fall starts. The leagues are starting
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  Speaker 3: falling here in Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Richard, I know.
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  Speaker 3: It's starting to get a little bit cooler out there
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  Speaker 3: in Seattle. Football is here. Thank goodness football is here, Richard.
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  Speaker 3: Let's kick it off with the NFC West. There's been
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  Speaker 3: so many changes in this division. A lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: going through that for that title belt that the Seattle
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks hold. Let's just start right off the rip here, Richard.
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  Speaker 3: Who do you like winning the NFC West?
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  Speaker 2: And I know Rams fans are going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they want me to say the Rams and they say
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Rams hater. I'm not a Rams hater, but
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  Speaker 2: to be the champs, you got to beat the champs.
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  Speaker 2: I got Seattle winning it again. They didn't lose a ton. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, they lost, but they feel really good about
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  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price winning. um, continuity on the offensive line, Sam Donald,
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  Speaker 2: another year in this system. Um, they feel great about
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  Speaker 2: what Brian Fleury has brought, uh, the energy, the creative, uh,
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  Speaker 2: aspect in the run game. Uh, I talked to Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald extensively about that. He, he is really impressed so far,
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  Speaker 2: obviously more game reps, you know, more time together, the
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  Speaker 2: reigning offensive player of the year in Jackson Smith and
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  Speaker 2: Jigba and having more time, um, just with the receivers
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  Speaker 2: in general for Sam Darnold, and I think Arroyo's going
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  Speaker 2: to come on a little bit more. Then you look
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  Speaker 2: on the defensive side, and Witherspoon gets paid, and then
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  Speaker 2: you look at the big cat. Leonard Williams gets paid,
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  Speaker 2: and that D-line is still going to be incredibly formidable.
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  Speaker 2: I think Byron Murphy is up for an all-pro year,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes he rotates off the bench, Mitchell, and you
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  Speaker 2: rarely have teams where an all-pro caliber player can rotate
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  Speaker 2: off the bench, and then Ernest Jones and that linebacker
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  Speaker 2: core and however they want to rotate it. And Josh Jobe,
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  Speaker 2: who they paid, I think, $ 8 billion this offseason to
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  Speaker 2: man that other corner spot opposite of Witherspoon. And the
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  Speaker 2: question mark is going to be that third corner. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's what they tried to bring Terry on in. He
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  Speaker 2: goes on the commissioner's exempt list. So I think they
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  Speaker 2: traded for a corner today. I think they're going to
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  Speaker 2: spend some time trying to make sure that that other
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  Speaker 2: corner spot, that third corner spot, is really secure. They
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  Speaker 2: feel great with Julian Love back there and Ty Akata.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of experience. Guys who've played a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good football in this system will know it well.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they're going to lean on that. I
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  Speaker 2: think they feel really good with their special teams. Really,
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  Speaker 2: there aren't many weaknesses to this team. And if anything,
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  Speaker 2: you look back at last year and you think, hey,
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  Speaker 2: they had a quarterback who led the league in turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: during the regular season, and they still end up with
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  Speaker 2: one seed in the NFC. And then he goes into
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs and plays at another level. He doesn't turn
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  Speaker 2: the ball over at all. He just looked really good.
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  Speaker 2: And when they needed him to be great, he was
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  Speaker 2: great against the LA Rams in the NFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 2: And he himself said he didn't have the best Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: but the run game came alive in.
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  Speaker 1: The Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: The defense stayed alive, and they won him the game.
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  Speaker 2: But I think if he plays, if Sam Darnold plays
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  Speaker 2: at the level that he did during the playoffs last season,
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  Speaker 2: if that's the level that we can expect going forward,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be a tough outfit to beat. They
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  Speaker 2: haven't lost a game since they lost that game to
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  Speaker 2: the Rams where he turned it over four times. He
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  Speaker 2: had four interceptions, and even then they lost because the
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  Speaker 2: field goal fell a few yards short. So you think
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  Speaker 2: about that, and you think, hey, man, the last time
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  Speaker 2: they were beat, it was a game where they still
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  Speaker 2: technically could have won.
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  Speaker 3: Richard, when it comes to the Seattle Seahawks, they have
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  Speaker 3: a massive strength, and that lies in their front seven.
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  Speaker 3: Like you said, their defensive tackle room, their defensive encore,
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  Speaker 3: the linebackers are all lethal. They've got an embarrassment of
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  Speaker 3: riches defensively. And like you said, there are question marks
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  Speaker 3: about that DB3, and they've obviously brought in Terryon Arnold
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  Speaker 3: and Trayvon Diggs in hopes to fill that position. But
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  Speaker 3: when you've got a front seven like the Seattle Seahawks do,
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  Speaker 3: I think they're going to find that answer pretty quick.
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  Speaker 3: and this team will continue to dominate and be carried defensively.
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  Speaker 3: That being said, and as you know, when you have
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  Speaker 3: a defense as good as you have right now in Seattle,
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  Speaker 3: it allows you to figure things out offensively. And like
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  Speaker 3: you said, Sam Darnold got incredibly hot and efficient down
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  Speaker 3: the stretch and led that team to that Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: My one question, and I've voiced it all offseason, The
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  Speaker 3: main position group I have my eyes on this year
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  Speaker 3: is the absence of Kenneth Walker and the injury of
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  Speaker 3: Zach Charbonnet. I know they brought in Jadarian Price. I
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  Speaker 3: know the locals seem to love him and what he's
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  Speaker 3: done in training camp, but he is a rookie. I
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  Speaker 3: think there might be a little bit of growing pains
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  Speaker 3: early in this season, Richard. That's where my eyes go
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  Speaker 3: with the Seattle Seahawks team is can they establish the
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  Speaker 3: run game? Because let's be real, JSN has established himself
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  Speaker 3: as one of the top five receivers in this league
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  Speaker 3: and is certainly a lethal weapon on that outside. But
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  Speaker 3: my eyes go to that running back game.
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  Speaker 2: And I, but I think somebody we're, we're, we're, we're
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  Speaker 2: kind of disregarding in a way in this conversation is
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  Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed, who came in mid season last year, became
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  Speaker 2: an all pro, wasn't all pro last season. As a returner,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to have a better rapport with Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 2: That's been talked about this entire off season and during
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  Speaker 2: training camp, how much their rapport has, has increased. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: Cooper cup, you know, it's not, not often you just
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  Speaker 2: forget about a triple crown winner. Um, who's, who's playing
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  Speaker 2: on his team, a young guy who got hurt last
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  Speaker 2: year and Torrey Horton, another guy, this, this receiving core
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  Speaker 2: is much more dynamic this year than it was even
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  Speaker 2: at the end of last season. I think they're going to,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to surprise people with how deep they are. And,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe they do lean on the past game a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more to start the season just because, Hey, they,
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  Speaker 2: they got the quarterback, they got a veteran quarterback. They got, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 2: an all-pro returner, playing receiver. They got an offensive player.
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  Speaker 2: You got two offensive players a year at receivers.
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  Speaker 1: Cool.
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  Speaker 2: You lean on the pass game, and then you cannot
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  Speaker 2: forget about A.J. Barner and those guys. I think they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be incredibly dynamic. I don't feel like there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a weakness of watching them at training
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  Speaker 2: camp and the way they utilize some of their weapons.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a fun offense to watch.
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  Speaker 2: I think obviously you have to give the Rams a
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  Speaker 2: ton of credit. It's an arms race in the NFC West,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll talk about the Rams and bringing in, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you talk about They kind of did what the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: did in baseball this year. You bring in Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: You bring Aaron Donald back. You go get McDuffie. You
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  Speaker 2: go get Watson. I mean, you brought about as much
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  Speaker 2: grade A, all pro, all world talent injected into a
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  Speaker 2: defense as you possibly can. And that's what you need
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  Speaker 2: to do in this NFC West. They're going to need
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  Speaker 2: to stay healthy. And we're going to need to figure
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  Speaker 2: out what Aaron Donald is going to do. Obviously, he
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  Speaker 2: sat out for two years. He's the best in the
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  Speaker 2: world when he left.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to expect much of a fall off,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe a little bit of rust early on, but
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  Speaker 2: he's still going to be incredibly dominant. They're not going
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  Speaker 2: to ask him to play a ton of snaps. He's
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  Speaker 2: such a competitor. I'm sure he's going to be trying
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  Speaker 2: to play the whole game the first time he's out there,
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  Speaker 2: but they're going to make sure he's healthy throughout the
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  Speaker 2: season and he's ready for the playoffs. Myles Garrett, same way.
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  Speaker 2: Two of the most dominant defensive linemen to ever play
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  Speaker 2: this game on the same team. It's just insanity, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel terrible for terribly sorry for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: these offensive linemen who have to deal with them. You
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  Speaker 2: can't double either one of them. You used to need
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  Speaker 2: three for Aaron Donald alone. You're going to isolate Myles
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  Speaker 2: Garrett one-on-one with anybody. I don't think anybody wants to
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  Speaker 2: be isolated with Myles Garrett. Even the best tackles in
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  Speaker 2: the league don't want to be isolated on Myles Garrett
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  Speaker 2: for more than one or two plays in a row.
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  Speaker 2: And so they're going to be incredibly tough to stop
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  Speaker 2: up front. Now, I know they paid a lot of
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  Speaker 2: money in that secondary, but I think people are going
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  Speaker 2: to have to max protect and run two- and three-man
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  Speaker 2: routes to even have a chance.
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  Speaker 1: To play with these guys.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my concern there, but they've done everything they
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  Speaker 2: can to really fortify this defense and give themselves a
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  Speaker 2: great chance.
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  Speaker 1: And then offensively, you look at them, they.
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  Speaker 2: Used their first-round pick on their quarterback of the future,
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  Speaker 2: They still have the MVP of the league last season
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  Speaker 2: and Matthew Stafford at the helm. Anytime he's at the helm,
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  Speaker 2: you got a chance poking the cool. One of the
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  Speaker 2: most dynamic receivers in the national football league. No question
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  Speaker 2: about that. And then you got Devante Adams. So it
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  Speaker 2: looks like he's had an incredible training camp who looks
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  Speaker 2: like he's spry and ready to go. And if they
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  Speaker 2: can stay healthy again, these are going to be two
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  Speaker 2: of the best teams in the national football league and
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  Speaker 2: the NFC. I, if, if they were on opposite sides
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  Speaker 2: we'd say these two would meet in the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: but they're not on opposite sides they're actually in the
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  Speaker 2: same division so it makes it tough but then you
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  Speaker 2: cannot sleep on the San Francisco 49ers and the moves
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  Speaker 2: they made but again their biggest enemy is health and
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  Speaker 2: can they be healthy and they're battling that bug already
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  Speaker 2: and we're only in training camp so I think this
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  Speaker 2: NFC West is really, really dynamic. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a fun, fun season to watch who comes in and
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  Speaker 2: who comes out and who can stay healthy. If the
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco 49ers can stay healthy, then I think there'll
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  Speaker 2: be in a similar spot as they were last year competing, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, fighting against these two juggernauts up, up top
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  Speaker 2: for a chance to go to the bowl. And obviously
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  Speaker 2: they got killed last year in a divisional by Seattle
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  Speaker 2: and they were outmatched out, man. And then they go
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  Speaker 2: out and go get Mike Evans. Um, They go get
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  Speaker 2: Stribling and draft him. So they knew they had to
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  Speaker 2: get faster and more dynamic at the receiver position. They
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  Speaker 2: also knew they had to get more depth at the
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  Speaker 2: running back position. So they go get Black, and they
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  Speaker 2: go get a few other guys who they feel comfortable about.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing they didn't do that I was concerned
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  Speaker 2: about is that interior offensive line. They didn't strengthen it.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're late in the training camp. Training camp is done.
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  Speaker 2: We're late in the offseason. We're about a week away
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  Speaker 2: from the season, and they're trading for interior offensive linemen
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  Speaker 2: because it's an obvious– place of concern but it's it
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  Speaker 2: we knew that two years ago and that's the part
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  Speaker 2: where i don't really get it you're about to go
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  Speaker 2: against the most dynamic d lines in the league in
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  Speaker 2: in la and seattle two of the the most incredible
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  Speaker 2: d lines in the league and you're just gonna you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna say hey we'll we'll figure it out as we
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  Speaker 2: go against aaron donald you know i mean against leonard
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  Speaker 2: williams against byron murphy jaron reed like that's what you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna go with that's the plan That's the part with
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  Speaker 2: the San Francisco 49ers where I'm like, the roster building,
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand it to that. I understand with your receivers,
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  Speaker 2: you want to have dynamic receivers. Unfortunately, you lose a
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  Speaker 2: receiver early in a season to an MCL. Like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's why you drafted and picked up depth and you
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  Speaker 2: got all these guys. So I think you feel good there.
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  Speaker 2: But the corner depth, is a question mark now. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Rodardo Green was penciled in as the guy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: opposite of our guy, Diamador Lenore, but he has a hamstring.
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  Speaker 2: And then you don't feel great about Jack Jones. He
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  Speaker 2: was up and down this offseason. He's up and down
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  Speaker 2: throughout his career. And you have no real veteran where
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  Speaker 2: you could say, hey, we just got a solid guy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you have no guy where you just say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we know we can depend on this guy. He's going
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  Speaker 2: to be solid. And they're going to be searching for
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  Speaker 2: that all season. And again, the safety position, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you got young guys who, You feel good about Mustafa
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  Speaker 2: and Jair Brown. He made some plays this training camp
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  Speaker 2: and preseason, and he had some things to say back
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  Speaker 2: and forth with Wittner. They were going back and forth,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to go back and forth with
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  Speaker 2: the kid because I don't dislike the kid. I don't
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  Speaker 2: dislike anybody. When you watch the tape, you criticize the tape.
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  Speaker 2: You don't criticize the person. You don't criticize– The personality,
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  Speaker 2: none of that. Like the game. If you're playing well,
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  Speaker 2: you say, hey, this guy's having a heck of a year.
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  Speaker 1: He's an all-pro.
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  Speaker 2: But we're not going to sit here and call people
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  Speaker 2: all-pros that aren't playing all-pro football. You want to be
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  Speaker 2: called an all-pro? You want to be looked at that way?
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  Speaker 2: An elite Pro Bowl guy? Then all you got to
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  Speaker 2: do is put it on tape. And that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Can he put it on tape consistently? He says, I'm
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  Speaker 2: hearing positive reviews about the defense and everything they feel
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  Speaker 2: about Raheem Morris' defense and how DB-friendly it is. That
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  Speaker 2: sounds great. until you go out there and it's Puka
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  Speaker 2: Nakua and Devontae Adams, then you got to go get
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  Speaker 2: it done. You got to deal with Stafford. Play in
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  Speaker 2: and play out. It doesn't matter how DB-friendly your calls are.
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  Speaker 2: Can the D-line get home, put pressure on them? Because
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  Speaker 2: if they can, you got to play, and you got
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  Speaker 2: to cover these guys. And it's going to get exposed early,
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  Speaker 2: whether he's taking a step up and this safety group
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  Speaker 2: is taking a step up and giving the 49ers a
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  Speaker 2: chance to be a good defense this year. Or did
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  Speaker 2: they make a mistake not addressing the safety position? That's
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  Speaker 2: why you can't put them in the same tier as
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  Speaker 2: the Rams and the Seahawks right now because of those questions.
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  Speaker 2: The Rams and the Seahawks don't have those kind of
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  Speaker 2: lingering question marks at really pivotal spots.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like there's a lot more questions than answers
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to the San Francisco football team. That
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  Speaker 3: being said, three teams from this division made the playoffs
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  Speaker 3: last year. Do you see the San Francisco 49ers making
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs this year again? Because it sounds like the
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  Speaker 3: Rams and the Seahawks are shoe-ins, but are the Niners,
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  Speaker 3: do you like them to make the playoffs when this
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  Speaker 3: thing is all said and done?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel really good about the 49ers making it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Brock Purdy, healthy, a great weapon in Mike Evans.
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  Speaker 2: You know, George Kittle potentially returning early on in the
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  Speaker 2: season would be a huge boost to this team. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're going to be able to put up points
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  Speaker 2: with the best of them. That's something Kyle has always
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  Speaker 2: taken pride in it's defensively. It's getting after the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Like can, you know, Osa Adigizua is a great addition.
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  Speaker 2: Can Nicholas John Bosa get healthy and stay healthy? Can
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  Speaker 2: these young guys, Malik Collins and Mikael Williams, can they
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  Speaker 2: get going? Can they be what people expect them to be?
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  Speaker 2: Those are the questions that need to get answered. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know what you're going to get out of all
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  Speaker 2: pro Fred and Dre Greenlaw getting those two back. is
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  Speaker 2: going to inject a ton of confidence, a ton of energy,
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  Speaker 2: a ton of chaos into the defense. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: can't really quantify or qualify the impact that Dre Greenlaw
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  Speaker 2: makes on this team. Just brings an attitude, just brings
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  Speaker 2: a physicality and kind of a, what's the word I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking for? It's almost like a malice, Mitchell. He's mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like people know where he
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  Speaker 2: is at all times. So but it's still all that
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  Speaker 2: could be great. And if they can find holes and
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: there's weaknesses in your team and you don't know who
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: the opposite corner is, is Renato Green's hamstring healthy enough
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: week one to, to be able to depend on him for,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: for an entire game. I think he's going to be
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: really solid if he's in there, but if he's not
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: healthy at corner, your hamstrings are Mitchell.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: That's like tires on a car.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: If your tires are pop, you know, no matter how
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: great your engine is, you know, you're not going nowhere.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So, Who do they have if he can't?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I think they feel great about Upton Stout and the
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: versatility within Raheem Morris' scheme. I think that's another guy
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: they feel really good about. But some of these questions
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: won't be answered until the first game, at least for me.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I haven't got a chance to watch them practice, but
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: in the preseason, I haven't felt like I saw things
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: that really just made me give a deep breath, even
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: at the left guard position. I think they're going to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: start Carver Willis, but do you feel great about that?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And I don't think you do. Do you feel great
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: about putting Carver Willis out there against Aaron Donald? I
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: don't think you do. Braden Fisk, do you feel great
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: about that?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Mitchell. I don't. We shall see.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: And before we leave, I feel like we've got to
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: touch on the Cardinals. The Cardinals are 100-1 odds to
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: win this division, Richard. Not the Super Bowl, not the conference,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the division, 100-1 odds. Is there any room for hope
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: in Arizona in your eyes?
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Room?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Mitchell, room for hope?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Mitchell, there's a hair-thin chance. There's a razor's edge possibility
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: that they could not come in last. But winning this
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: division is out of the question. I just don't think
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they're talented enough on either side of the ball. There's
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: too many question marks. there's, you know, it's a new staff.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: They're going to have to get there, figure out what
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: they want to do. Even at the running back position
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: where you draft a guy, number four, you're saying he
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: may not even start, you know, he may be real too. Actually,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: he's not going to start because he's coming. He's injured
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: right now. I think he got a high ankle sprain. So,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: you know, you talk about Marvin Harrison Jr. And you're
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: not sure if he's even the best receiver on your team.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: He's the highest drafted, but is he the best receiver.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: On your team?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And I think those kinds of question marks, you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: are going to get them going to get worked out
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: throughout the season, but It's going to be some growing pains.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Your starting quarterback, who is it?
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett tried to hold out for a few more
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: dollars and got a few dollars. But who do you
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: feel great about? Who's the future of that franchise? And
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I think they'll make some games fun. It's the division opponent.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: They'll find a way to win a few division games
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: and show that they're an NFL team. But to talk
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: about them winning this division is very far-fetched.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Before we leave this division, Richard, let's just talk about
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: these first four games. I'm going to rattle them off.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: You tell me how many the Seahawks are going to win,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: the Rams, the Niners, Cardinals. Seahawks open at home against
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: the Pats.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, at home against the Pats, on the road against Arizona,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: on the road against the Commanders, and at home against
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: the Chargers.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: That sounds like four, Mitchell. I feel good about them
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: going four for four. I agree. I agree.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: The Rams, in Australia, playing against the 49ers, wild. Giants
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: at home, at Denver, at Philly. Challenging start for the Rams.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I got a three and one. Who's the one? Yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: who's the one? You want me to expose my picks?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I do. Three and one. You figure out who the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: one is yourself, Mitchell. Fair enough. Who's the one? Okay. Okay.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Niners at the Rams, home against the Dolphins, home against
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals, home against the Broncos.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Three and one. Who's the one right now? Who's the one?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fans, figure out who's the one.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Who's your one in those picks?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Because I got them both going three and one, and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I feel really good about it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And Richard, finally, the Arizona Cardinals at the Chargers at
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: home against the Seahawks. at the Niners, and at the
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: New York football Giants.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I see one. I see a possible with the New
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: York Giants. A possible. That's going to be a game. One.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: One and three.
• 20:23
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• 20:27
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• 20:31
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• 20:37
  Speaker 3: 10th at 8.53 p.m. Eastern time. Richard, who do you
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: think has the advantage going into this game?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: The Rams. Oh, I thought we were already starting. The Rams, Mitchell.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: The Rams. Who do they have that can block that
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: offensive line? You got Trent Williams and the Temptations. Mitchell.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And them temptations are very tempting for the Rams' defensive line.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And that's my concern there, is if you can't keep
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Brock Purdy upright and you cannot run the ball effectively,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I don't see how you beat these guys. But on
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the flip side, they beat them last year with a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: skeleton crew and Matt Jones and Kendrick Bourne.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So, in L.A. So, I'm not saying it's an impossible feat.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm having a hard time when I put it together.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: When you put simulations together, you're like, how is he
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: going to get the ball off? It's Miles Garrett. It's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald. It's Fisk. It's a really dynamic defensive line.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And it's dynamic in the places that the San Francisco
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: 49ers aren't necessarily the most dynamic. Where they have the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: biggest question marks, the Rams have the biggest strengths. And
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you can't just slide and double team. And I know
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the fans are like, oh, we'll just double team.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Whew. Who are you going to double team?
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Just going to assume Aaron Donald is rusty.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Let's just go with that. Okay. We're going to go
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald is going to be rusty. We're going
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: to double Myles Garrett. Good luck with that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: You're going to leave a young rookie one-on-one with Aaron
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Donald because that's the way they're going to line it up.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: They're going to line it up to find that. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you he's never that rusty. Like, the thing,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: it's riding a bike for him. Like, what made him great,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: he still can do.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: He's still quick, agile, strong. as an ox.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Now maybe his conditioning isn't there, maybe he doesn't play
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: 60 snaps, but if he plays 30 and there's 15
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: pass rushing snaps in there, hands are going to be full.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And so that's where the game is going to be
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: won or lost for the San Francisco 49ers. Can they
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: keep Brock Purdy upright, give him enough time to deliver
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: it to Mike Evans, to deliver the ball to his
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: receiving core? Can't they do it? And if they can't
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: do that, then that's where the issues are going to be.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And then on the flip side, The Rams are just
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: as dynamic and dominant of an offense as they were
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: last season. I mean, you had Devontae Adams get a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: little banged up, but they're still a very tough outfit
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: to deal with. Just a very strong, consistent, one of
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the National Football League, and Matthew Stafford,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the reigning MVP of the league, and one of the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: best receivers in Puka Nakua, and one of the best
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: receivers of all time in Devontae Adams. And you're going
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: out there, and I don't know who your second corner is.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can match up with these guys,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and there's too many question marks there. Now, if guys
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: step up and play a great game, can they surprise
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the Rams?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I think Kyle Shanahan and Raheem Morris are going to
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: have a great plan for the Rams. But at the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: end of the day, sometimes it comes down to the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: X's and O's, Mitchell, and sometimes it comes down to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the Jimmy's.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And the Joe's.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: And can your Jimmy's and Joe's line up with their
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Jimmy's and Joe's? Because there's going to be a lot
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: of yeses, But Mitchell is damn sure going to be
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: some no's.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I love it, Richard. And like you said, I think
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: it's going to come down to the San Francisco 49ers,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the X's and O's. Kyle Shanahan is going to have
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: to put together a masterpiece here. The good thing is
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: the Niners do get them week one. So if there
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: is any rustiness in the symbiosis of that defense for
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the L.A. Rams, maybe the Niners catch them off guard.
• 24:28
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• 24:37
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• 24:42
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• 24:46
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• 24:51
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• 24:55
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• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Heading into the holiday season, Netflix will add the NFL's
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: first ever Thanksgiving Eve game on November 25th to its plate,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: featuring the Green Bay Packers visiting the Los Angeles Rams
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: at SoFi Stadium. Continuing the Christmas Day tradition, Netflix again
• 25:13
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• 25:17
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• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Eastern time, followed by the Buffalo Bills against the Denver
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Broncos from Empower Field at Mile High at 4.30 p.m.
• 25:28
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• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Then in Week 18, with playoff stakes on the line,
• 25:33
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• 25:37
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• 25:40
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• 25:45
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• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Eastern time.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Richard, let's turn our focus to the NFC East. There's
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of storylines in this division. Can the Dallas Cowboys...
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Get back to their winning ways after a down year
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: last year. Can the Philadelphia Eagles overcome a little bit
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: of an identity crisis without A.J.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Brown?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: How does Jalen Hurts respond? And then obviously the Commanders.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: This was a team that was in the NFC Championship
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: game two years ago and looked like a shell of
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: themselves last year. And then John Harbaugh goes over to
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: the New York football Giants, and we're going to see
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: an identity shift in that team. How big of an
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: identity shift is that going to yield? Can Jackson Dart
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: rise in his second year? Can Cam Scadaboo stay healthy?
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: What's the health of Malik neighbors? OBJ's back. There's a
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: lot of questions with this Giants team that if they're
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: answered correctly, they could be a surprise in this division. Richard,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: who do you ultimately like in the NFC East?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It's going to surprise a lot of people and I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: surprised at myself even saying it. I like the Dallas Cowboys.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: They're the ones I know what I can expect out
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: of and it's crazy. I mean, You talk about one
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: of the most dynamic offensives in the National Football League
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: with C.D. Lamb and George Pickens and Dak Prescott. You know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: if that offensive line can kind of hold it together,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: they're going to need to be stronger than they've been
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: in the past there. But they're going to be able
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to throw the ball around the yard. Dak Prescott is
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a lot better than people give him credit. And I
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: say this all the time. He and Jalen Hurts are
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: probably two of the most underappreciated quarterbacks in the National
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Football League. And sometimes do they struggle? No question. All
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks do. You can find a game or two of
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: every quarterback in the National Football League being off of
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: his game. But for the most part, Dakota Prescott is
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: going to be on his game. And he's got two
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: of the best receivers in the National Football League. George
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Pickens is going to probably have a career year this
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: year and be looking for an incredible payday after this.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: They're giving receivers $ 40 million now. So I'm sure he's
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: going to be knocking on that door or they're going
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: to have to franchise him again. But I think They're
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: going to be a team to watch in the NFC East.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: And I know Philly fans are like, well, we got
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the best defense and we got two great corners.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: And you do. You have all those things.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: But you're losing one of the most dynamic players on
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: your team in A.J.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Brown.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And I know they're like, oh, he was Butterfingers and
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: he was Drops.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, how idle minds. Idle minds go awry, Mitchell.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: You can't always take your worst moments for somebody who
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: left and use those to paint the entire picture. Devontae
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Smith is going to be the number one.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Is he capable?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: 100%. He's been dynamic. He's had big games. He's played
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: big in big moments. He can do everything he needs
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Who's your two? Who's your two?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Can you depend on a rookie to really step up
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: and be that consistent too? And that's a tough ask
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: in a National Football League on a contender of a team.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And that's to be seen. That's to be seen.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I think their defense, the Philadelphia Eagles defense, I think
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: they're going to be fantastic.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to be incredible.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I think they have arguably the best secondary in the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: National Football League. I mean, not even arguably. You got
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: two all pros. You got Tariq Woolen coming into the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: fold on a one-year deal. And everything we're seeing from
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: him and hearing out of training camp is he's been outstanding.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I saw him pick six.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, I think he had two picks in their
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: scrimmage a couple weeks ago, and he looked really good.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And then you– Quinion Mitchell and Cooper DeJean, and they're
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: just incredibly talented and incredibly solid back there. And they
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: got a great defensive line. Jalen Carter got his money,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and he's one of the most disruptive big men in
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the National Football League.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Jordan Davis had some repercussions. great moments. He's still a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: fantastic talent. Those Georgia boys get it done.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: So they're going to be amongst the top three defenses
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: in the National Football League. But I think the Dallas
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Cowboys are too. And I know people don't want to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: hear this. Nobody talks about Dallas for defense. And I know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I know, I'll be the main one. But When you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: create a defense as dynamic and aggressive as they have
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: in this defensive line, you got Quentin Williams, you got
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Kenny Clark, you got guys that really attack up front,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: guys that can really win one-on-ones and be disruptive. I
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: think Mitchell, I think they have a chance. You got
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: really young guys in the secondary. They just drafted Caleb
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Downs and He's been making waves and showing his talent.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: He's a little undersized, but he seems like he brings
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: an element of leadership and championship mentality that even veterans
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: like DeMarvion Overshawn have shown respect for. And he's a
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: dynamic player that they give back. Donovan Ezeraku is a
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: guy that they're going to be dependent on this year.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: That front can be really formidable.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: The NFC East, I've always talked about the Giants front
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: because they had all those first-round picks, those top-five picks.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: guys that can get after a quarterback, but it's just
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: never lived up to the paper billing. And we'll see
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: if it does this year. I think John Harbaugh will
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: do a great job of just steadying that ship, you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: maximizing the potential of this offense. And Jackson Dart, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: if Malik Nabors can come back healthy, and Odell Beckham Jr.,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: whatever he has left in a tank, and Isaiah Likely
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: is likely to be the number one target for a
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: little while early in the season as they figure out
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: if these receivers can be healthy enough to really carry
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the load going forward um I think Jackson Dart is
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: going to be fun to watch he's always fun to
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: watch that defensive line can be really disruptive but I
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: just don't know if they have enough this season to
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to really to find a way to win the NFC
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: East I think the NFC East goes through Dallas um
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: surprisingly this year and I know the Philly fans are
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: gonna gonna kill me for that and be like oh
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: we beat Dallas and we do all this that's just
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: my opinion that's just what I feel Philly has been
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: fantastic I think The departure of A.J. Brown is going
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: to have a bigger impact than they think over there
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about the Washington Commanders, the
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: one team that you left out here. They kind of
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: went this high and low two years ago, coming out
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: of nowhere, making their run to the NFC Championship game.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels looking like a top five quarterback in the making.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: And then this past year, he gets hurt. The team
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: kind of loses their identity, their swagger. They were struggling defensively, offensively.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: They could never really find their true footing throughout the season.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: You know, this team is getting overlooked going into the season.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Do you think Jaden Daniels can have a bounce-back year
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: and help this team back into the playoffs?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Do I think Jaden Daniels can have a bounce-back year? Yes,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I think he can. I think they've given him some weapons.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I like what I've seen from, obviously, Stephon Diggs is
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a proven veteran. Terry McLaurin is a proven veteran. Antonio
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Williams has shown some flashes in training camp. Like, how
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: real is that during the season? Jacory Kroski-Merritt showed some
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: flashes last season, but he's been a little banged up.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Can Rashad White bring a different element to that offense?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: There's some question marks on the offensive line, and then defensively,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of question marks.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: It's almost all question marks.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: So, you know, outside of Deron Payne and Javon Kinlaw,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you know, you look to see, you know, I think
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I like Frankie Lou Vu, but a lot of guys
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: are going to be looking to prove themselves and show
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: that they can be elite NFL talents. And, you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: those questions will be answered throughout the season. So I
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: don't have a ton to really say until they're able
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to put it on tape and really show people what
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: they're going to be. I think offensively, they have the potential,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: they have the bones, they have the structure to potentially have.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Some cool moments.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I think Dan Quinn is going to have these guys
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: playing inspired football because he's a great football coach. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of it is to be seen
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: the same with, you know, the, the, the New York giants,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: you know, you there's some things that could be great ingredients,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: but it's to be seen how, how John Harbaugh can
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: really get the best out of these young men. But
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I think with the Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles, they're
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: going to be battling for supremacy in this division. Once again,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And I think that Dallas has a really good chance
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: this year if they can play up to their potential.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I like Dallas, too.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I think the one team to look out for in
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: this division are those New York Giants. I like bringing
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: in John Harbaugh. He brought a ton of vets in
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: this offseason. I think we're going to see an identity
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: shift with that team. I wouldn't be shocked if they
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: won eight or nine games this year, Richard, and surprise
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: some teams and knock off some favorites.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: But before we leave this division, let's do the same
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: exercise again. Four games. Let's start with Philly. They play
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the Commanders at home, Titans at home, at Chicago, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: then at home against the Rams. Your thoughts on these
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: first four?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I think they're 3-1.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I'm guessing the one's the Rams.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys. I don't know. Fair point. I guess we'll
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: never know. The Cowboys. The Cowboys.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: At the giants at home against the commanders and Ravens
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: and Texans. How much do you like this Cowboys team
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: for real? Are they four or no out the gates?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Three and one. I see.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: It's just the national football league and there's always unpredictable things. Um,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you know, there's some really, there's just, there's.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: A defense on that schedule that makes everybody's life really difficult. And, uh,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I expect that to be true with the Cowboys as well.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Fair enough.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: And the commanders at Philly, at Dallas, at home against
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: your Seattle Seahawks and then at home against the Indianapolis Colts.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Tough way to open the season.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Yikes. Yikes. It's not the way I want to open it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I got them one in three or all in four. Wow.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Depending on what the Colts can do and how Daniel,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like what are the Colts
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: going to look like going forward? Um, Jonathan Taylor and,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: you know, they've had, you know, they've shown a little
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Jekyll and Hyde throughout their season. So it depends on
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: which Colts show up, but we'll go with 1-3.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Very fair.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: And then the Giants at home against the Cowboys, Rams,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: and then they got the Titans and Cardinals. Your thoughts
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: on their start?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: 2-2. Giants 2-2. I'm giving you 2-2. Don't disappoint me.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Give them hope. Give them hope.
• 36:30
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  Speaker 3: All right, Richard, let's move on to the NFC North.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: You know, a division that is near and dear to
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: my heart with my Honolulu Blue Boys, the Detroit Lions. Richard,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of question marks swirling in this division
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: as well. I mean, The Detroit Lions finished dead last
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: in the division last year. A lot of roster turnover
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: this year. I think the team was the most injured
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: or one of the most injured teams in the NFL
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: last year and have been the last couple of years.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Then you look at the Chicago Bears. I mean, Caleb
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Williams had a great second year. Can he continue on that?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: They won the division last year. The Packers, can they
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: refine their ground in this division? Obviously, Jordan Love, this
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: is his team. How good can he truly be? And
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: then the Minnesota Vikings, a team that was 13-4 two
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: years ago that gave up on Sam Darnold, went in
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the direction of J.J. McCarthy, and now has landed on
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. What does Kyler Murray do to that offense,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: and how does he change the dynamic weapons they have
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: in Jefferson and Addison and obviously Jawan Jennings there now?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: So many questions in this north, Richard. Who do you
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: think ultimately takes the crown in the NFC North?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I got the Lions. I got your Detroit Lions.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Biased or unbiased, I feel like objectively they have the
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: best quarterback. And I know there's Packer fans that are
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: going to be, you know, whoa, whoa, whoa, go check
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the stats, Packer fans.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Show me.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I can show you four Jared Goff seasons better than
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love's best season. And I think he doesn't get
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: enough credit. Because what he did in L.A. and, you know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: people up and down and is he a winner or
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: is he skittish or whatever? But the numbers are the numbers.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: He puts them up year in and year out. And
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: he's one of the best quarterbacks in the National League.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: And for some reason, people forget about that until Detroit
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: is just top five offensively.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm in Ross St. Brown and St.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Laporta and all these guys, Jamison Williams. But you forget
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the guy slinging a rock around the yard. And I
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: think Jared Goff is going to have another really elite season.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: They continue to be a great offense. The concern, the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: real concern is defensively. Like, when you lose Terryon Arnold
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: to the system, you lose Terryon Arnold to the system,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: then you got to, you know, when is Brian Branch
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: going to be healthy?
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: You know, when are.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Your elite safeties going to be healthy? So, when is
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Brian Branch going to be back? When is Kirby Joseph
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: going to be healthy? Like, those are two elite players,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: two players that the defense doesn't really function as well without.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: And you don't have them.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: You know, two pro-ball, all-pro caliber players, and you're without them.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: So that's the issue early on for the Lions. Can
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: guys like Avante Maddox and Chuck Clark step up and
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: just hold the ship down until those guys return? Because
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: if they can, this can be a really cool season
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: for Detroit. But that's a big question mark. And then
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: on the defensive line, can they get enough pressure? Aiden
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Hutchinson showed that he is who people think he was
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: coming out of Michigan. Can he continue that? Can he
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: continue to be dominant? And can the guys around him
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: develop enough to really give him more room to operate?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to be a big concern throughout
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: this season. Jack Campbell has been really solid. I think
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: DJ Reed has shown he's a really good corner in
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: the National Football League and really consistent, although I think
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: they ask him to play way too much man coverage.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: They've got to mix things up and stop being so
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: predictable defensively to give themselves a chance to really defend
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: in this league. You don't have guys that can live
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: in man coverage 90% of the time, 80% of the time.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: You got to get creative. Can you bring pressures? Can
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you start to run quarters? Can you put more pressure
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: on the defensive coordinators to understand these protections and the
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: way you need to attack them and give this defense
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: a chance? That's what I'm expecting out of the Lions.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I think that's the weakness. And then, obviously, the Green
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Bay Packers in this division are going to be formidable
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: because of Jordan Love.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Because of.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Because of Josh Jacobs, who is now starting on the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: commissioner's exempt list, and that's a big deal. That's a
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: big deal, him starting on the commissioner's exempt list. I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: sure they feel great about their depth there, but what
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: are they going to be defensively? Like, you want to
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: say Micah Parsons, Micah Parsons, Micah Parsons, but when does
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Micah Parsons return? Because without Micah Parsons, they're an entirely
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: different team, and now you're going to be without Rashawn Gary,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: who's in Dallas. What is this pass rush going to be?
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: How formidable are they going to be? And then in
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the secondary, who are you going to be? You're without
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Halfley this year. Halfley's now in Miami. How different is
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: this defense going to be? They were a really, really
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: formidable unit last year, but they still were a seventh seed.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: They still barely made the playoffs. They still were that
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: seventh seed. That seventh seed didn't used to exist. And
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: they've had it for like the last couple of years.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: they're going to have to take the next step this year,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: and I know people are going to be like, oh,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: he's down on the Packers, because at some point, like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: the seventh seed in the playoffs, I need you to
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: do more, and I know you're going to say, oh, well.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: What have the Lions done?
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: The Lions have, what, a couple years ago, they won, what, 13,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: 14 games, and I think, you know, minus a few injuries,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I think they have another good season last year, but
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to have a really good year.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I think the Packers are going to be really solid,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: but I think if the Packers aren't who they're supposed
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: to be, the floor becomes, it gets on that hot
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: seat because there were times last year where guys were
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Packers fans were calling for his job. And I think
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: that's going to continue to be the case if they,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: if they don't start off really fast and their schedule,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: their schedule gives them a chance to start off really fast.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: They're going against the NFC South this year. It's not,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's a lot of lot in
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: flux in NFC South, um, and some beatable teams out there.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: So that may give them a chance to better their
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: playoff standings, but we'll see.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: We will see.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, then you turn your focus to the Chicago Bears.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, Caleb Williams came out this past year. Obviously,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and his offensive guru comes into Chicago and
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: makes that team a total juggernaut offensively. They did have
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of turnovers, the right kind of turnovers on
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. The question is, can
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: they replicate that this year? Because they won a lot
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: of close games and ultimately won that division. But can
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: they replicate that this year? They went 0-2 against my
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Detroit Lions last year. And they lost when they needed
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: to win down the stretch against a Lions team that
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: was playing with a shell personnel. The question becomes, can
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears beat the elite in this league? Do
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: you think they're part of that conversation? I, yes.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Do I think the bears are part of that conversation? Yes.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: But just like Vegas does, I'm still, I'm still wary
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: of the Chicago bears. Can Caleb Williams be consistent? Can
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: that receiving core really be consistent? You know, they lose
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: DJ more and you can feel however you want about
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: DJ more. He had a productive season for him last year.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: He made a lot of big plays. Now he's in Buffalo.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: So what are you going to get out of Luther burden? And, and, and, uh,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and Roma Dunze, you know, are those guys going to
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: take the next step to be the guys that they
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: expected them to be when they drafted them? That's going
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: to be a big deal. And then Caleb Williams, it's
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: a big deal. They paid a lot for that offensive line.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Can they continue to be maulers like they were last year?
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: They had a great season. They are built the right way.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And then defensively, you got to be able to rush
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the pass. You got to be able to cover. You
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: got to be able to do a lot in this league.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: And I think They at times did it well, but
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: they got banged up in the secondary. You know, Jalen
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Johnson was banged up for a lot of the year.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Kyler Gordon was banged up for a lot of the year.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Can they come into this season healthy and be dominant players?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Because if they can, then that changes the math substantially.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: And now we've got to turn our focus to the
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings. You know, again, we referenced it earlier. They
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: said no to Sam Darnold after one of the best
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: seasons they've had in a long time. and elect to
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: start J.J. McCarthy, their first-round pick from a week prior.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: That experiment did not go as planned, and ultimately Kyler
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Murray has won the starting job in Minnesota. I do
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: want to talk a little bit about J.J. McCarthy, but
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: let's start with the Minnesota Vikings as a team, now
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: led by Kyler Murray. What are your expectations for this team? Specifically,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: what are your expectations for this offense? How different is
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: it going to look for Minnesota Viking fans with Kyler
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Murray under center?
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I expect him to use his legs. He always has.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: He always will.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: That's one of his superpowers in the National Football League.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: He's incredibly fast and dynamic, slippery. When he's healthy and
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: he's on his game, he's got a live arm. He
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: can make some really incredible passes. They've got a really
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: dynamic receiving core. And Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson and
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: a friend of the program, Jawan Jennings, But I just
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: don't know if they, you know, I'm not going to
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: go through down the I told you.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: So, Minnesota. People are going to get fired if it
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: didn't work out.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go down the whole I told
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: you guys again and again about three weeks in, four
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: weeks in, it wasn't going to.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Work out like that. I'm not going to do that.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be that guy that says, hey,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: if this doesn't work out, your GM is probably going
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: to get fired because this guy isn't the guy.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: He didn't show it at Michigan. How is he going
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to be it in the league? Whatever. I got you.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Now Sam Darnold went somewhere else. You guys told me
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: he was seeing ghosts and you didn't want him anyway.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: He got a ring on his finger now and nobody
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: proposed to him. So I got you.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened there, but he won 14
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: games again. The Minnesota Vikings did not win 14 games.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings made the decision to go with the young kid.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Young kid was not ready for his moment. Now, did
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: he play well at times? There's quarters where you could
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: turn on the tape and see really, really sound football play.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Real great quarterback play. delivering really accurate passes and things
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: like that. But just over the course of a long season,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: 17 games, can he do it consistently? And I knew
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: that would be an issue for him because he had
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: not done it. He had not done it. He had
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: one year at Michigan where, you know, they played well
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and they went on a run, but it was a
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: great running game.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: It was a great defense.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: And if you give them a great defense and you'll
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: get that from Brian Flores, they're going to be dynamic.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: They're going to put pressure on other teams. They're going
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: to cause chaos, cause turnovers, be really aggressive. give the
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: offense the ball, extra possessions, things like that. But a
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: young quarterback can't be skittish back there and he can't,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: you know, you're with one of the best offensive minds
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: in the National Football League and Kevin O'Connell.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: And if you can't do it here, you can't do
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: it anywhere.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: And I knew once they brought Kyler Murray in, even
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: though he wasn't financially tied, there was no financial incentive
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: to play him or start him. He's a veteran who's
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: played at times, at a high level in this league. Now,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: there are times that he's made you scratch your head
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: and say, wow, this guy doesn't take the game series.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: But there are times that he's played at a high
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: enough level to know, hey, he belongs in this National
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Football League. And you know that Kevin O'Connell saw that
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: during training camp, and you knew he would. And I'm
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: still waiting for enough consistency from J.J.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: McCarthy for me to say, hey, there it is. There's
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: the guy. He belongs.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: That's a first-round pick. That's a top-ten pick. That's why
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: they drafted him here. And I think that's the reason
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: why you aren't seeing him start. Like, there's not any
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: crazy bias for Kevin O'Connor to want to play Kyler Murray.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: He's just a better quarterback. And I think if you
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: go back in time, in hindsight being 2020, they would
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: have kept Sam Darnold. They would have paid him $ 50
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: million and just lived with it because he played in
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: this system as well as anybody else does it. And
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: so Seattle kept him in the same system with a
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: great defense and a phenomenal defensive coordinator, defensive coach, really
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: an all pro receiver like he.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Had in Minnesota. And look what happened.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: And I think that potential there is going to haunt
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings fan base for a very long time.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: And I told you this is going to be a
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: decade long pain that they go through because you made
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the wrong call.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: What do you think is a realistic ceiling for this
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings team?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I think if they win nine games, that'd be considered
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: a win. Is that enough to get them to seventh seed?
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. This is a really tough division as
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: well for all the reasons that we stated earlier. The
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers are still a really good team. The
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Detroit Lions are still a really good team. And then
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams are going to be formidable.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: They just won the division last year. They were a
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: tough out last year. They're going to be a tough
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: out again.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: And before we leave this NFC North, I want to
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: dive just quickly into this Lions team. I love some
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: of the changes they've made defensively. A lot of the
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: question marks last year were opposite of Aiden Hutchinson. And Richard,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: you already touched on that. They went out and drafted
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Derek Moore, the rookie out of Michigan this year, who
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: has been injured during training camp, but is one showing
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: during a preseason game. A media impact, strip sack. And
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: then they got another kid, Richard. I don't know how
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: big of a Miley Cyrus fan you are. I know
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: you love your music. But the song, I came in
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: like a wrecking ball, comes to mind when I speak
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: of Skyler Gil Howard, the rookie out of Texas Tech
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: by way of Northern Illinois, an absolute wrecking ball up
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: the middle, an undersized defensive tackle that is known for
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: his pass rushing skill. Look out for those guys. You
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: get a healthy Aleem McNeil back. You get the second
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: year first round pick, Tyleek Williams next to him. I
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: think the Lions are going to have a lot more
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: answers than questions. coming into this season. The one glaring
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: hole of this team right now is the free agent center,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Cade Mays, that they signed. Broke his wrist during the
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: middle of training camp. He's going to probably be out
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: through that bye week, which comes after week four. We'll
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: see if they can weather that storm without him. There's
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: going to be a lot of question marks and moving
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: pieces up that middle. But let's take a look at
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: these first four games.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: See what Ragnow's doing. See what Rag.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I think they already knocked on his door a few times, Rich.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about these first few games of the season
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: and give your predictions here. The Lions open at home
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: against the Saints, at the Bills, at home against the Jets,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: and then at the Panthers. At the Bills, by the way,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: the first game in Highmark Stadium, regular season game on
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football via Amazon Prime. Richard, you'll be there. Richard,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: the Lions, can they go 4-0 to start the season?
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I'm tempted to give them four and oh, but going
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: to Buffalo new high Mark stadium, brand new opening, like
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: real energy from those fans. They're so passionate out there
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: in Buffalo. Sometimes that energy just wins the day. And,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and I have a hard time believing Buffalo is going
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: to lose the first game in their brand new stadium,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: billion dollar stadium, but crazier things have happened.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: It's not cold.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: It's not any of the elements that you expect Buffalo
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: to benefit from. Um, But with all those things, they're
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: still a very formidable outfit. Josh Allen is still one
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: of the best, if not the best quarterback in the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: National Football League. Everybody will argue, whoever they will, Stafford
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: or Mahomes or whoever your favorite guy is, Burrow, Lamar,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: but he's in that conversation. So I think that's the
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: one they're going to have a hard time winning. I
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: got them 3-1. Fair.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: The Chicago Bears at the Panthers, at home against the Vikings,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: at home against the Eagles, at home against the Jets.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: 3-1. 3-1. Unless they're Panthers. Go ahead. I respect it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Panthers could be good. Again. Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Let's take it to the Packers at the Vikings, at
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: the Jets, at home against the Falcons, and at the
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me not to go 3-1 in a
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: lot of these games. I mean, a lot of these teams.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Vikings are beating the Packers. The Jets, J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: If Geno finds a way to bring a miracle to
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: New York, I think that's going to be a movie
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: that is made next season about the biggest career turnaround
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: in probably the history of the game.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: To get drafted to New York, kind of struggle there,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: come back to New York and take them to any
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: kind of playoff or any.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Kind of relevance would be really cool. I just don't
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: see it happening, but I'm just saying if that happened.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: So I say all that to say 3-1.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: And then the Vikings at home against the pack at
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: the bears at the bucks at home against the dolphins.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: One in three. Yeah. You, you had it written one
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: in three. I agree with you. One in three. There
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: it is. All right.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: We got the lions one in the North. Now we
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: move to the NFC South. This is always a massive
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: coin flip of a division. Um, Last year, we saw
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers seemingly come out of nowhere. Everyone left
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young and said, hey, you know, he's the next
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: one to not work out in Carolina. He had other words, right?
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, this guy helped them, albeit to a losing season,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: but they won the division and gave the LA Rams
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: a scare. And then you look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Mike Evans is gone. Their all-time leading receiver gone. And
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: then obviously the Atlanta Falcons. Always question marks about them.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: They bring in Tua. Can he make them a more
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: competitive team? We shall see, Richard. And then the Saints.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Vegas has the Saints team as the number two favorite
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: to win this division. I don't think a whole lot
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: of people realize that. Chris Alave came back and had
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: a great year last year. Tyler Shroud, their second-round pick
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: out of Louisville, is proven to be a guy worth
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: keeping his eyes on. What are your thoughts about this division,
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: and who do you think ultimately takes home the crown?
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Well, the whole NFC South is always a question mark
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: and basically a random luck of the draw at the
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: end of the year. It's always nobody's division to win
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: until somebody loses it. Last year, I think there was
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: a three-way tie, week 16 or 17. I think one team,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: I think it might have been Tampa Bay, had to
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: beat Carolina or Atlanta had to beat. Somebody had to
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: beat somebody, and they lost. Carolina won by that default
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: of them losing, and it was just like– Of course,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: NFC South. But this year, I feel really good about
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think offensively, they could still
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: be really dynamic. They lose their all-time leading receiver in
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans, but they still have enough weapons offensively, and
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I think Baker Mayfield is going to be motivated with
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: the contract situation and those conversations. Bucky Irvin, Chris Godwin,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: they still got Emeka Abuke and Jalen McMillan if he's healthy,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: and Tez Johnson, and a lot of guys who can
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: really go once they get going defensively, is where I
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: think that is going to be the strength of their team.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: They drafted really well. I think Reuben Bain, you know,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: all the question marks about his arm length have been
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: answered throughout training camp, throughout some of these joint practices,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: some of the clips you see of him going against tackles.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: It looks just silly. And some of these tackles are
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: really talented, you know, real-life NFL guys who played for
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: a few years. And I think So you know they're
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: going to be really aggressive up front. You know, still
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: got Vita Vea for all the conversations of him asking
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: for a trade and more money and all that. They
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: got A'shaun Robinson. This is going to be a formidable
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: front to go against. They still got Antoine Winfield, who's
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: been one of the best safeties in the National Football League.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: The young guys at the corner spot, Zion McCollum and
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Jacob Parrish, they're going to have to stand up. You know,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Todd Bowles runs a very complex scheme, a very, very–
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: variable scheme you know there's a lot of variety and
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of substance and a lot of uh a
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: lot of intricacies to his scheme and and you know
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: he does a great job confusing offenses but sometimes it
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: can feel a bit unsound and uh this will be
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: the first year without Levante David you know in in
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: what 15 years 16 years you know that's a that's
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: a big deal um you know so we'll see how
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: they they handle that loss and and who can step
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: up in his absence he's been a a staple and
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: a mainstay in Tampa Bay for a really long time. How,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: how can they adjust to that loss? Because it's not
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: just presence, it's leadership, it's calmness. It's a guy, it's
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a guy who won a Superbowl, a guy who, who
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: you almost always expect to be there. You know, he's
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: like the first and a 15th Mitchell. You, you, you got,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: you can lean on it. You, you can depend on him.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Dependability is the best ability in the league. And without him,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: there's going to be some adjustments, but I feel really
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: good about Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And obviously so does Las Vegas.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: You got to give the Saints some credit. Tyler Shaw
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: is a guy that I don't think anybody really spoke
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: that highly of coming out. And when they drafted him,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: you know, it was kind of just a shrug of
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: the shoulders. People were like, why didn't they get Shador Sanders?
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: But as it's, you know, as the year progressed, you
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: could see the flashes. He started to play. He'd had
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: some really good moments. He's had some really cool moments.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: And And Kellen Moore put him in some really good
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: spots to be productive. And I think there's some confidence
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: out there in New Orleans, that very quiet confidence in
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: the Big Easy that nobody's talking about. And can they
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: make a little noise? Can they upset a few guys
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: and just make it fun? I don't know if they
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: go out there and win 10 games. I'm not going
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: to put myself in that situation to say anything like that.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: But I think they can make it fun. I think
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: it can make it really competitive, make it really tough.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: to come out there to New Orleans and play. It's
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: always a tough stadium to play in, but I think,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: you know, the NFC South is always a toss-up at
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the end. It's going to be, you know, back and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: forth throughout the whole season. If anybody is going to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: run away with it, I think Tampa would.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Richard, obviously the Carolina Panthers shocked a lot of people
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: by winning this division. I know you said it was
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of luck down the stretch, teams not wanting
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: to win, but reality is Bryce Love helped this offense
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: find some stability, and.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Fuck.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Not Bryce Love. Sorry.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Richard, let's talk a little bit about the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: I know this team, you know, 8-9, won the division
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: by luck, I guess, if you want to say. No
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: one seemed to want to win it down the stretch.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: But Bryce Young really stabilized this offense and gave this
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: team a tough complexion. They were a tough team to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: play against. They almost knocked off the L.A. Rams in
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: the playoffs.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Are you writing them off? Do you think they'll take
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: a step back this year? Do you have any hope
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: with the Carolina Panthers?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: It's Jekyll and Hyde with the Carolina Panthers because within
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: their division, sometimes they look like anybody in the division
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: can beat them.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: And then you see them play the LA Rams.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I think they played like twice in five weeks or
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: something like that. In both games, they looked like they
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: went toe to toe with the team that everybody thinks
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: has a chance to win a Super Bowl last year
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: and this year. And If they can play to that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: level consistently, then we're talking about a whole different team.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: We're talking about a team that can compete with anybody.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: But it almost seems like they play up and down
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: to the level of their opponent, and that's not the
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: recipe for success. And so I want to see more
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: consistency from them. They have great players at great spot.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Ted McMillan at receiver looks like he's the guy that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: they expected him to be when they drafted him. Mike Jack.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: at corner is a guy that played really, really well.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: You got J.C. Horn, who's been one of the best
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: corners in the National Football League. He had a little
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: bit of an up-and-down season, but he played really well
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: in some of the big games. I remember watching them
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: against the San Francisco 49ers, where they just were having
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: their way with Brock Purdy that day. I think he
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: might have thrown three or four first-half interceptions, and they
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: weren't just gimmies. Those guys were hunting them down. Like
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: I said, they played to the level of their opponent,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: and if they can play at that level consistently, defensively,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: because they have played well. Derek Brown, we'll see when
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: they get him back and what he's going to be
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: able to do. Devin Lloyd, you know, is another guy
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: who can be dynamic for him. I think they feel
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: really good defensively about how they match up with teams,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: how they matched up with the Rams. Offensively, they feel
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: like they have some playmakers. Chubba Hubbard had a really
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: good gear last year. He felt like if he got
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: more carries, he'd be more dynamic. I think he's going
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: to get more carries. He's going to get a heavier
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: load this year. And can Bryce Young continue to take
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: that next step? Can he continue to be a dynamic quarterback,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: a calming presence back there?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: You know, consistency is what wins in this league. And
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: none of these teams have shown enough consistency for us
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: to really truly just be all in on them.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Let's walk through the first four games, Reach, and you
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: give your projections here. The Carolina Panthers open at home
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: against the Bears, then travel to the Atlanta Falcons. followed
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: by the Cleveland Browns, and then at home again against
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: my Detroit Lions.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts? Two and two.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They start off in Cincy against
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: the Bengals, then host the Cleveland Browns, the Minnesota Vikings,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: and the Green Bay Packers.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: It's hot in Tampa in September, Mitchell. Very hot in Tampa.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: That plays a factor. Two and two.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know how big of a factor it plays,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: but okay, here we go. All right, Richard, then we
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: go to the Atlanta Falcons. This is a team with
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of question marks, right? Tua Tungabailoa comes in.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Does he win the starting role? Does Michael Penix Jr.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: maintain it? I don't know. This team certainly needs a
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: quarterback to grab hold of that position and lead this team.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: They start in Pittsburgh against the Steelers, then host the Panthers,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: travel to Green Bay. and ultimately travel to New Orleans,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: what do you think the Falcons start?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: That's tough.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: The 2-2. Again, that quarterback situation is really a microcosm
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: of the entire division.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody won. Nobody's winning that job. Nobody ran away with it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Who lost it?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Who lost that job is the question because there are
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: some bad moments for Tua, And I think they thought
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: he would come in and kind of take it. I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: thought he would come in and just be a veteran.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: You know, you got Drake May. I mean, Drake London.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: You got Kyle Pitts. You got some big targets. Like,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: just put the ball up around their area. Let them
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: go get it. Don't make stuff up. Like, Kevin Stefanski,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: keep it simple for them. You know, old school West Coast.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Run the ball. Play action. Like, don't do anything crazy.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: And it just seems like he struggled in this system.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: And he has not got his groove back. Like, he's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: like Stella Mitchell. I don't know if you've ever seen that.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: But Stella, it took her a while to get her
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: groove back, Mitchell, and it's taken Tua Tungvalu a second
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: to get his groove back. And if he can't, whoever
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: they do start is going to have a short leash.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: That's my expectation. Whoever starts is going to have a
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: very short leash. Let them have one bad game. I
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: expect another one to start, the other guy to start
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: the next game or the following game if it's two
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: in a row. So I don't think it's a situation where,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: you know, they name the day one starter and they're
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: just like, hey, we feel confident in this guy. They're
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: going to name somebody because you have to. but I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: don't think that closes the door on another guy.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Two and two for the Atlanta Falcons. The New Orleans
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Saints at Detroit. I'll be at the game, by the way, Richard.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: At Baltimore, at home against the Raiders, and at home
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  Speaker 3: against the Falcons. Can the New Orleans Saints start two
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: and two or better?
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  Speaker 1: Question mark. Two and two. That's two. Two and two.
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  Speaker 3: It just seems so fitting for this division, honestly.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: It's what it is. It's what it is because that's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: where it's going to be at the end. Everybody's going
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: to have a chance to win or lose the division
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: in week 15.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: All right, to conclude the NFC, Richard, you've got the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks winning the West, the Cowboys winning the East,
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  Speaker 3: the Lions winning the North, and the Buccaneers winning the South.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Who do you think takes care of the wild card seeds?
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  Speaker 3: You've got three teams in mind.
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  Speaker 1: Rams, Niners.
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  Speaker 3: Could that division sweep?
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  Speaker 1: Bears.
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  Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals?
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  Speaker 1: Bears. Fair enough.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: And the Bears. Well, that concludes the NFC side of things. Richard,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: no surprise you love the Seattle Seahawks. I'm happy to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: hear you like my Detroit Lions. So excited to see
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: this conference shake out. Let's move over to the AFC.