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- 0:27Welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm your
- 0:32host, Carrie Letts. Well, good news yesterday, good news today.
- 0:38US wholesale prices sank half a percent in March. Is it time to break
- 0:43out the champagne? Inflation has been whipped? That reminds me of those buttons
- 0:48that President Gerald Ford wore and I'm still trying to obtain them wind buttons,
- 0:56which stood for whip inflation. Now, so the Fed has almost got inflation
- 1:00whipped? And will they keep raising? Can you believe the numbers? CPI
- 1:07dropped more than expected to five percent? But I seem to remember that inflation
- 1:12was supposed to be transitory. And hey, can you ever believe the Fed?
- 1:19They've missed every major event, or most of them, certainly for the
- 1:25past decade. They missed the real estate collapse, and look if you're skeptical
- 1:32about their ability to control events and the economy ahead, you have certainly have
- 1:38every reason to be. But Matthew Johnson is with us. Now, Matthew,
- 1:44you have a certain take here. You think the FED is succeeding.
- 1:48Well, thanks for having me on, Carrie. It's good to be on
- 1:49again. You know the numbers. I don't think lie now. I think
- 1:53that there is definitely various different ways that we can read the CPI. We
- 1:59know the CPI is actually broken into three different parts. They look at CPI,
- 2:04they look at core CPI, and then they look at what they call
- 2:07supercore. And the reality is is that things are indeed coming down. I
- 2:10think the thing that gives most of us as investors in just as healand beings
- 2:15in general, a lot of heartburn is the fact that not all these things
- 2:19are coming down. In Unison, right, we still see that there's a
- 2:23lot of inflation in our everyday life. But you're right, there is some
- 2:27good news. We see that the CPI is dropped from six to five,
- 2:31a little bit better than expected. We're seeing that the PPI today comes out
- 2:37and it's down by half a percent. That's good news. We see the
- 2:40morning straits have dropped just a little bit. So we look at all the
- 2:46various different factors, we look at all the various different pieces of data that
- 2:51we have access to as Americans, and we see that things are progressing.
- 2:54But I think you bring up a good point. You know, in January
- 3:00of the stock market, really it pulled the trigger too early. They were
- 3:05thinking, oh, this is going to be a rate cut, right,
- 3:07and all of a sudden they didn't get what they want. And the appreciation
- 3:13that we saw in the market in January, we've given up quite a bit
- 3:16of that. In February, we've given up some of that in March,
- 3:21and unhus what we're going to see in the future months, but I believe
- 3:25the Fed is going to have to raise interest rates. The thing that we
- 3:30leaned, or that we've gleaned from the notes from the minutes of the Federal
- 3:34Reserve that just came out yesterday was that there was quite a few of them
- 3:38that actually were vying for a fifty basis point increase last month, and because
- 3:45the banking scare and the banking crisis that was going on at the time,
- 3:49they decided to relent and do twenty five basis points. Well, if they're
- 3:53going to stay really stalwart, Carrie, I think getting this inflation number down
- 3:57to two percent, which I think is very audacious in and of itself,
- 4:00they're going to have to stick to their guns. They're going to have to
- 4:02do another rate increase in May. I do believe that it's going to be
- 4:05likely that they do a kind of a pause and see. But it was
- 4:10also very evident for reading the Minute notes that they also are leaving the door
- 4:15open for another rate increase in two and twenty three, even after the month
- 4:18of May. So we have to be very careful to understand that these things
- 4:23are going to be kind of a work in progress, and we don't exactly
- 4:27know, as Dirrection it's going to go. Well, if we look at
- 4:30the canary in the coal mine or the canary in the gold mine, we
- 4:33see today as we're speaking on April thirteenth, Thursday, the gold is up
- 4:39another twenty five dollars the ounce to two forty, a hair's breadth from its
- 4:45prior high, which don't hold me to it, I believe was two thousand
- 4:50and sixty nine. And even silver, which has been a perennial precious metal
- 4:57under reformer, not just a precious metal, is approaching twenty six bucks.
- 5:02So the ultimate haven people are, obviously, and I think this is a
- 5:10global phenomena, have rediscovered the attraction of gold. You look at a bitcoin,
- 5:16it's back over thirty thousand dollars, another an area in the gold mine.
- 5:23You think that the BED is really capable of controlling this because look,
- 5:29we've got deficits, trillion multi trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can
- 5:34see. That means by its very nature, they're going to be printing up
- 5:39money like it's going out of style, more and more treasury debt issued.
- 5:44Do you think they really have the ability to control inflation without blowing up the
- 5:48whole system? We already saw regional banks are a disaster area. Money is
- 5:56bank runs blowing out of there into the money center bank in search of safety.
- 6:01You really think the FED has all this power and the ability even if
- 6:05they do have the power to achieve these goals, Well, I think you're
- 6:12asking a really good question, but I think it kind of boils down to
- 6:15this. The FEDS are going to realize that they don't have the control to
- 6:20be able to control everything. They don't have the ability of controlling human emotion,
- 6:27human reaction, and there's way more of us than there is of them.
- 6:30So if there's a run on the bank, if there's a run on
- 6:32the market, you know, they only are limited in what they can do.
- 6:38However, with that being said, I do believe that they're going to
- 6:41exert doing what they feel that they can do to be able to bring us
- 6:45to somewhat of a or rational economy with inflation. That's going to be within
- 6:49reason. But I think that there's another thing that we may be wanting to
- 6:54think about. You know, back in the two thousand and eight crisis,
- 6:58they you mentioned earlier. You remember the name Ben Burnanky, right, Ben
- 7:02Burninky did something that was kind of interesting from a strategic standpoint. There was
- 7:09huge infusions of money that were going into the banks, and there was around
- 7:13six trillion dollars that they ended up giving to the banks. But then they
- 7:17convinced the banks to keep that money with them. Now here's the thing,
- 7:25they quote unquote sterilize those six trillion dollars. But those six trillion dollars are
- 7:30now costing our federal government around two hundred and seventy five million, excuse me
- 7:34billion dollars per year. That's more than all of the veteran benefits in the
- 7:41United States today in a year. So the question becomes can they keep a
- 7:46lid on this? Because here's the deal. If they stop paying interest on
- 7:48those dollars, then those dollars fled back into the economy and that creates a
- 7:55multiple domino effect. You want to talk about inflation, you haven't even seen
- 8:00inflation yet compared to what it could be if something like that happened. So
- 8:05are they in control? No? Are they trying to give the personification that
- 8:11they are in control. Absolutely? Do they want to try to keep the
- 8:16average American fairly calm and reasonable? Yes. Are they doing what they're doing
- 8:22because of good intention to try to bring the inflation down? I think that
- 8:26they are. The problem is is that we have so many things that you
- 8:30and I consume every single day that doesn't seem to correlate with what we're hearing
- 8:33on the news. You know, when we go to buy dog food and
- 8:37we're paying twenty one percent more today for dog food than we were a year
- 8:41ago, it still kind of sticks in our crawl. Right when we're buying
- 8:46our medicine, we're buying our eggs. Just Kim mccross, the client who's
- 8:50got a great friend that lives in Alaska, and that friend was telling his
- 8:56friend, he said, do you realize that I have to pay over twenty
- 8:58dollars for a dozen eggs in Alaska? We're talking. There's not a lot
- 9:05of correlation between what we're seeing from the numbers that the government's giving us the
- 9:09news is reporting to us, compared to a howl of feeling. But I
- 9:13think that there's another facet here. I know that diversification is such an important
- 9:18thing. You talk about precious metals. It could be a safe haven,
- 9:22and I believe that it is. But have we looked and really paid attention
- 9:26to what stage of life we are in When I discuss precious metal investing with
- 9:33my clients, carry it is certainly something that we can use as a diversification.
- 9:39I think we should. Is it perfect? It isn't perfect. There
- 9:43is no perfect tool, doesn't have limitations. Is it practical? All of
- 9:48these various things, And I think people tend to, especially investors, they
- 9:52begin to look at the book ends of the investment world and we fail to
- 9:56see some of the other opportunities that we and use as tools on our toolbox,
- 10:01along with the precious medals, along with the CDs, along with the
- 10:05other various different things that people invest in. Then that's fixed income. And
- 10:11when you think about fixed income investing, I don't know about you, but
- 10:15there's many more corporations that I would choose to trust over the United States government.
- 10:22When you think about the bank and you think about how very little if
- 10:26there was a toll banking crisis, just a complete meltdown, how very little
- 10:33the FDIC would matter. You know, how very limited and resource they are,
- 10:37that they would be able to come in and take care of everyone who
- 10:41has their name on an account and give them a quarter million dollars of protection.
- 10:46I think that this is where diversification comes into play. And if we
- 10:50can make certain that our working capital is as safe as we possibly can make
- 10:54it, and we can make certain that our working capital is actually producing something
- 10:58for us in the way of interest, in the way of dividends, and
- 11:03we can have various buckets of money doing various different things. This is what's
- 11:09going to give us the greatest chance of success, regardless of whether things get
- 11:13worse or whether things get better. Now I'm wholping for better. But what
- 11:18I hope for and what becomes reality, as we all know, can be
- 11:22two totally different things. What was that old saying that your mother used to
- 11:26say, if wishes were I can't remember it now, but I get you
- 11:31so multifaceted approach. If I interpret what you're saying correctly, maybe you should
- 11:39have some gold and silver, maybe you should have some currency, and maybe
- 11:46stocks will do better than having your money in the bank. But when you
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- 12:52more than member not at all. So I want to get back to this
- 12:56just to be clear. When we think about the world of investing. Obviously
- 13:00we've got equities, Okay, if you're in a position, whether you're on
- 13:05the accumulation stage of your life Carrie as an investor who's got many more years
- 13:11before they retire, versus the person who is maybe a year away from retirement
- 13:16or maybe they're in retirement. If you're going to be looking at equities,
- 13:18you can't forget to pay attention to free cash flowing companies that are going to
- 13:24pay you a dividend. That dividend is your reward for being the shareholder,
- 13:28right. But we have to not just look at the equity side. We
- 13:33have to look at things like individual bonds. For many investors, they have
- 13:39grown so accustomed because of the laziness of the financial services industry that the only
- 13:45bonds are fixed income that they know is simply bond funds. Okay, they
- 13:50may have their place, but bond funds are next to worthless compared to an
- 13:54individual bond. When you own a bond to individually, you own a contract.
- 14:00You are sitting in a position where you can rest easier, you can
- 14:03sleep better at night because you know that that bond is going to be paying
- 14:07you a contractual stream of interest income every year. You realize that if you
- 14:13hold that bond to maturity, when that bond matures, you're going to get
- 14:16your part value back. Even preferred stocks, which rank higher than common stock,
- 14:24can bring consistency and steadiness to a person's portfolio. And when we have
- 14:28dividends, we don't have to be as concerned. It's not that we're not
- 14:33concerned, but we don't have to be as concerned with the underlying value of
- 14:37our asset because we know that we have that income that we can spend if
- 14:41we need it, and if we have got more income than we need,
- 14:46we simply reinvest it back in more income, produce and things. Okay,
- 14:50so what all right, So a diversified approach here, But you gotta believe
- 14:58that this situation here is really, really kind of dire here. The regional
- 15:09banks, they make most of the real estate loans that we know of here,
- 15:13other than the big ones that the money center banks make. We've got
- 15:20commercial real estate really lowing up all over the place, and at some point
- 15:26the ability of the government to bail everybody out and the FED it's going to
- 15:31be challenged, isn't it. Well one hundred percent, I agree one hundred
- 15:35percent with that assessment, and I think it's going to become even more public.
- 15:41You know, we're coming into earning season, and that means that there's
- 15:45going to be a number of banks that are having to come out with their
- 15:48numbers, and assuming that they're not fudging the numbers, I think that there's
- 15:50going to be some pretty pretty big ugliness that's that's coming out, showing just
- 15:56how desperate of a situation it is for many of them. With this,
- 16:03we have to maintain understanding. This is the reason why you don't put all
- 16:07your eggs in one basket. You know, who could fault the average American
- 16:11today? If they're sitting in a bank that's maybe smaller, they're paying them
- 16:15a smaller rate of interest, and they see the bank across the street and
- 16:21is paying them, you know, two three tenths better interest. We know
- 16:23that money is flowing out of banks. We know that even if you look
- 16:27at a various asset class called the annuity, you know, fixed interests.
- 16:32Annuities today are producing five five a quarter, even as much as five and
- 16:37a half percent on a guaranteed basis. And people understand that if I invest
- 16:41in a CD today and maybe I'm getting four and a half percent in one
- 16:45year, assuming that the feverer Reserve follows through with their word and then begin
- 16:51to taper interest rates in one year, that CD is not going to be
- 16:53renewing at four and a half percent. It's going to be renewing maybe at
- 16:56two and so people are looking for viable alternatives. And the good news is
- 17:02that with this interest rate increase, it's giving people an opportunity, I think,
- 17:07to better diversify. Think about it. The reason that we saw the
- 17:11market blow up the way they did in two twenty one after twenty twenty was
- 17:15because we had this abundance of liquidity, We had cheap interest rates. And
- 17:22when people are looking at their fixed interest accounts and they're saying, gosh,
- 17:26I'm not making anything there, I'm losing to inflation. Low interest rates drives
- 17:32people further out onto the risk curve. It drives people into the market because
- 17:36they get the sensation that that's the only place that you can make money.
- 17:41But you and I both know that there is many other alternatives that are safer
- 17:45havens, many other alternatives that we could put our money to help us be
- 17:49better diversified, to be able to help us create real income that we can
- 17:53spend just some number on the statement, And that's what we really need to
- 17:57be focused on. There's many things in this world we cannot control. There's
- 18:03many institutions that I would not trust. But my money is my responsibility.
- 18:08And this is the reason why we have to listen to all various data coming
- 18:12into us and then make logical decisions that are comfortable to us. Right,
- 18:18gotcha? And all right, So we live in an uncertain world. We
- 18:23know that, and you know things are happening, trends. You can't not
- 18:29be aware of it. What do you think the role of AI is going
- 18:33to be in the whole next emerging financial crisis, the next one that comes.
- 18:40Is it going to cause it? Is it going to be the solution?
- 18:44What are your thoughts? Well, It's funny that you ask that,
- 18:47because I've had a number of different interviews and conversations with different individuals, and
- 18:53you know, the latest worry for so many people has been that, only
- 18:59goodness, the government's going to be going to digital currency, all right,
- 19:03So I personally believe Kerry that we're going to eventually become a cash lest society.
- 19:10I don't know exactly when that's going to happen, but I believe that
- 19:11it's going to happen, right, Yeah, exactly. Getting there myself,
- 19:18you have to pay for a lot of things in cash, and now the
- 19:21only thing I pay in cash or basically is the maid. That's right,
- 19:26she'll probably be on Zell shortly likely, so, but I think we would
- 19:33be. I think that this is kind of the same argument that my dad
- 19:37had twenty five years ago, and he said, oh, you know the
- 19:41Internet, that thing is just a fad. Okay, Well no, it's
- 19:44it's not a fad, dad, It's it's going to be a very real
- 19:47thing. And we know that artificial intelligence is becoming more and more part of
- 19:51our life. We know that so many companies, so many businesses, are
- 19:55implementing it, and in many respects, I want to believe that in in
- 20:00the majority the scheme of things, it's going to be benefiting our life.
- 20:04It's going to allow greater efficiency, it's going to allow more accuracy. But
- 20:08you know what, there's always that possibility carry that we could see some really
- 20:15bad implications as a result of its misuse or the lack of following through and
- 20:22making certain word thinking through all of the various different ways that it could be
- 20:26a detriment to society. And we see an awful large emphasis in today's society
- 20:33that I think is, you know, they're awoke society that believes that,
- 20:38you know, the nation owes them a living, and there's you don't have
- 20:45to work for a living, you don't have to learn tangible skills, and
- 20:48that you can do everything that you want to do behind our computer screen,
- 20:52behind a keyboard, and in many respects, I think that this is where
- 20:56a lot of motivation is coming from. The world is becoming more technical,
- 21:00but we can't forget the human element to this, and so I hope for
- 21:04the best, but I don't know what it's going to become. All right,
- 21:07we agree there, Well, Matthew, appreciate your coming on again and
- 21:12sharing this with us. Where is the best place to find you these days?
- 21:18Or can certainly go to my website. They can go to Johnson Wim
- 21:22dot com, which is your website. They can also go to my YouTube
- 21:26channel which is the Capitalized Life Channel, and they can watch our my weekly
- 21:33videos there. If they go to the website, they can hear my Saturday
- 21:34morning radio show that I produce each Saturday. And the website is just full
- 21:40of all sorts of information to help educate the average investor and retiring on what
- 21:47they can do to make more conservative, suitable decisions for their money and be
- 21:52safer and enjoy the retirement that they deserve, a retirement that is full of
- 21:56income instead of anxiety and stress. All right, well, we appreciate you
- 22:00coming on. If you've got a question from Matthew, shoot us an email
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- 22:12you again soon. Appreciate you stopping by. Thanks Carry, thanks for listening
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