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The Big Weekend Pod · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: to Big Weekend pod in. It could be an explosive weekend.
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  Speaker 1: At least I'm going to get you prepared for that
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  Speaker 1: by talking with our regular guest John Ellis of News Items,
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  Speaker 1: and remember you want to be in the know every
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  Speaker 1: morning by six am. Subscribe to News Items. Head over
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  Speaker 1: to news Items and Google news Items and John Ellison.
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  Speaker 1: You can subscribe John to go over some of the
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  Speaker 1: stories you might have missed this week. Then we have
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  Speaker 1: our heavyweight lineup right in the middle of the what
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  Speaker 1: you call murders row with Yankees. We got Eli Lake,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Connelly, Ben Dominic, and we'll be talking primarily, if
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  Speaker 1: not exclusively, about Iran because this is the weekend that matters. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've heard me say that before, but it
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  Speaker 1: really does come down to the American people are watching
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  Speaker 1: and they're wondering what's going on, and they trust the
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  Speaker 1: president on this, and we none of us have classified information.
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  Speaker 1: Let's find the gvernment and if people are talking, they
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  Speaker 1: don't know. And if people don't know, they tend to speculate.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't speculate about what the conditions on the
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  Speaker 1: ground are and you're on but I can absolutely can
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  Speaker 1: speculate about what will be the reactions to various deals
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  Speaker 1: if they come out, and to the resumption of combat
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  Speaker 1: operations of what that's what we see. We do know
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  Speaker 1: that the President not going Don Junior's wedding because you've
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  Speaker 1: got to be at the White House, which tells us
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  Speaker 1: he's on the edge of his seat. He's waiting to
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  Speaker 1: see if, as Dwayne says, the Iranians bend the knee,
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  Speaker 1: which if they're smart move I don't think they're particularly smart,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think that's going to happen. But whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is, we will talk about it. Turn it over
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  Speaker 1: and you're in the right place. You're here for the
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  Speaker 1: big weekend pod. Stay tuned. I mean, Grace America. Happy
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  Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend to you. I hope you have a
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  Speaker 1: good one planned, and I hope that you thank everyone
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  Speaker 1: in uniform of those who have served, especially those who
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  Speaker 1: have lost loved ones who did. As is the case
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  Speaker 1: with the most weekend shows, I begin with John Ellis.
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  Speaker 1: John is the founder and chief editor of Ellis of
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  Speaker 1: News Items by Ellis Items on x Lis Items, and John,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go out of order with the stories
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  Speaker 1: you sent me because last night I had dinner with
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of people. One of them was two speech
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  Speaker 1: Tony Tony McDonald, one of the great commercial real estate
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  Speaker 1: brookers up in Maine. I said, how you get your news?
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  Speaker 1: And he said, I love Ellis Items. I love news Items.
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  Speaker 1: You turned me on the News Items last year. Then
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  Speaker 1: we got the podcast and he said, I really like
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  Speaker 1: John Ellis's podcast, And I said which ones? And we
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  Speaker 1: went through them. You I did not talk to him
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  Speaker 1: about the one you did with Steven Roach, so let's
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  Speaker 1: start there. I don't know, mister Roach, what did you
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  Speaker 1: talk to him about?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he is he's the former chief economist, said Morgan's
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  Speaker 2: Stanley for thirty years. He's now at e University. But
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  Speaker 2: for our purposes, he is one of the leading experts
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  Speaker 2: on China. He's been going to China since he was
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  Speaker 2: chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia in the early days, got
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  Speaker 2: to know the leadership there. He led their China Development
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  Speaker 2: Forum discussion so on and so forth. So he's very
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  Speaker 2: very well versed in Chinese politics and Chinese governance. And
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  Speaker 2: he said something to me that I hadn't really thought about,
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  Speaker 2: which is, seventy percent of the US economy is consumer driven.
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  Speaker 2: Forty percent of the Chinese economy is consumer driven. And
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  Speaker 2: I asked the stupid question, well, why isn't you know,
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  Speaker 2: seventy percent of the Chinese economy consumer driven?
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  Speaker 3: And he said, because the.
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  Speaker 2: Government of China doesn't want people to have choices they
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  Speaker 2: want to. They don't want people to get the idea
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  Speaker 2: that they can make, you know, this choice and that
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  Speaker 2: choice that they eventually get used to. Maybe they will,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they'll make different choices on governance. So by suppressing
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  Speaker 2: purposefully consumer demand, they're hoping that that will prevent political unrest.
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  Speaker 3: And I ever thought of it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that's quite an insight. Now, which podcast
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  Speaker 1: I always listen to you and Richard? But which podcast
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  Speaker 1: did that appear under you brand? A couple of different ones.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I now just do.
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  Speaker 2: I occasionally do with Joe Klein, who is an old fan,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm doing that much less. I do one on
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  Speaker 2: ones where I just interview somebody that I think is
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  Speaker 2: really interesting and that you know, the news items subscribers
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  Speaker 2: would find really interesting, and then I do the back
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  Speaker 2: and forth with Richard Haass about foreign policy.
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  Speaker 3: Essentially, I do you agree?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, the conclusion of our conversation last night
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  Speaker 1: is that people want to be informed are going to
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  Speaker 1: find podcasts that go longer and like the Acquired podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with that?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not, but I think I do think that the
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  Speaker 2: problem that we have is that people only have so
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  Speaker 2: much time. So Richard and I have made the decision
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  Speaker 2: that we can go no longer than thirty minutes on
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  Speaker 2: the theory that the average commute for people is thirty
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  Speaker 2: five minutes. But some the one on ones I just
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  Speaker 2: did one with a men named Sebastian Mallaby who wrote
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  Speaker 2: a great book about Demis Hassabis, who's the founder of
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  Speaker 2: Google Deep Mind, and it was so interesting.
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  Speaker 3: It just went on and on and on. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's an hour long.
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  Speaker 1: Acquired is three hours long. My wife turned me on
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  Speaker 1: to it. It's deep dives into the history of companies.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to the NFL, I listened to the COSTCO.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hooked. But it's for long drives, for short commutes
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  Speaker 1: TSL for this my radio television shows typically around twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight minutes. And so you're right on the average person.
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  Speaker 1: But good stuff goes longer. Second China story, property prices
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  Speaker 1: in Shanghai are rebounding. Now that is counter intuited to me.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they weren't sort of a slow collapse across
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  Speaker 1: the country.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's the most dynamic city obviously in China, and
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  Speaker 2: so it's not surprising that there's been a rebound there.
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  Speaker 2: On the other hand, all of us had been told
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  Speaker 2: for years and years and years that there were sixty
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  Speaker 2: million empty housing units, mostly apartments in China, sixty million
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  Speaker 2: being the population the entire population of Germany. But the
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  Speaker 2: new data shows that there are ninety million unoccupied housing units.
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  Speaker 2: And so the property crisis that has bedeviled the gi
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  Speaker 2: government for you know, I don't know a decade at least,
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  Speaker 2: isn't getting better. It's getting worse.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let me again go to the Republican crisis in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: I have endorsed John corn and my cards are on
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  Speaker 1: the table. He's a layup. He would win in a layup.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Ken Paxton can win. You're a little
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  Speaker 1: more generous than me. You think he maybe possibly could.
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  Speaker 1: But I hate playing, you know, Russian roulette with a
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  Speaker 1: safe Senate seat. What did you say? Flawed doesn't begin
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  Speaker 1: to tell you about Ken Paxton.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Well John Cornyn, Senator Cornyn is a subscriber to news.
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  Speaker 3: Item, so of course he's one of my favorites. Smart guy. Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say that not a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people in Texas have a high opinion of Ken Paxton,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that he is. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 2: the difference between Paxton being the Republican nominee and Cornyn
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  Speaker 2: being the Republican nominee is the difference between maybe the
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  Speaker 2: Republicans won't win and certainly the Republicans will win.
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  Speaker 3: So that's right, you know that we haven't we haven't
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  Speaker 3: had the run off.
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  Speaker 2: Primary, so we don't know for sure that corn is
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  Speaker 2: going to lose, and one hopes that he doesn't. But
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  Speaker 2: I think if he does lose, then I think that
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  Speaker 2: Senate seat is very much in play. And I understand
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  Speaker 2: all of mister tell Rico's problems and vulnerabilities, but they
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  Speaker 2: seem to be matched at least by Ken Baxton's.
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  Speaker 1: There will be a billion dollar campabilities. Now you may
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  Speaker 1: have noticed I left math for last. That's because when
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  Speaker 1: I took the SAT a million years ago, they always
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  Speaker 1: said skip the hard ones and go back at the end.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand this. John, explain what open AI did
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  Speaker 1: with the model that Paul Airdo's planner unit distant conjecture.
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't turned to that yet.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we start at the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: There's something called artificial superintelligence ASI that refers to a
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  Speaker 2: hypothetical form of AI that surpasses human intelligence across every domain,
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  Speaker 2: not just in narrow tasks or but creativity, problem solving, etc.
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  Speaker 2: And an open AI model tackled a geometric conjecture that
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  Speaker 2: has stood the test of time for eighty years. The
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  Speaker 2: brightest mathematicians in the world couldn't crack it, and artificial intelligence,
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  Speaker 2: this open AI model did. And so this week I
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  Speaker 2: think will be remembered, as you know, one of the
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  Speaker 2: seminal moments in the development of artificial intelligence. Because in
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  Speaker 2: this domain of math, super artificial superintelligence was achieved eighty
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  Speaker 2: years of the most brilliant mathematicians, fields, medalists, you know,
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  Speaker 2: heads of major university departments. All of these people have
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  Speaker 2: been trying to disprove this conjecture and have been unable
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  Speaker 2: to do so, and the machine was able to do so.
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  Speaker 1: Now is that good news in your view? Or is
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  Speaker 1: that alarming views? In your view because you do more
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  Speaker 1: AI than anybody. It's both.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's it's both right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what it implies on the good news side
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  Speaker 2: is that, for instance, you know, the spread of cancer
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  Speaker 2: is something that you know, hundreds of billions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: have been spent to try and figure out how cancer spreads,
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  Speaker 2: how you know, how it melts with with proteins and
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  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. Well, if artificial and superintelligence
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  Speaker 2: can be applied to this problem, how does cancer spread,
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  Speaker 2: it may be that it can figure out what all
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  Speaker 2: of these genius human people haven't been able to figure out.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of people in the biology sphere say
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  Speaker 2: that they think cancer will be cured by artificial intelligence
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  Speaker 2: essentially within the next five or ten years. The same
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  Speaker 2: is true of Alzheimer's, The same as true of dementia.
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  Speaker 2: It's you know, you can go on and on and
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  Speaker 2: on the downside obviously is at the machine decides he
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  Speaker 2: wants to turn us into pets and figures out a
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  Speaker 2: way to do that, and then we're all pets.
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  Speaker 1: So John for layman out there. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: news item covers AI better than anywhere else. Would you
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  Speaker 1: rather have us win an AI race, in other words,
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  Speaker 1: get to artificial superintelligence first and finally, or would you
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  Speaker 1: rather have a cooperating with China in that competition.
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  Speaker 2: It's an enormously difficult decision for President Trump to make.
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  Speaker 2: He decided that to you know, to not put up
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  Speaker 2: guard rails and to not engage with the Chinese at
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  Speaker 2: this time unquote regulating end quote AI. And there's a
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  Speaker 2: very good case to be made for that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: open AI has achieved what it looks like they have
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  Speaker 2: achieved super intelligence in this realm of math, So you
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  Speaker 2: want that, you want to be ahead. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 2: bad things can happen, so maybe you want to cut
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  Speaker 2: a deal.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, And maybe you want to stay abreast
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  Speaker 1: of what's going on in that field. Subscribe to news
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  Speaker 1: items just Google news items, and John Ellis a couple
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  Speaker 1: times a day, I'll drop a tidbit into my feed,
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  Speaker 1: but it really is the way to get smart about everything.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, John. I have a great Memorial Day weekend,
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  Speaker 1: coming right back with Eli Lake. Stay tiered, Welcome back America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett as usual, Eli Lake joins us. Eli
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  Speaker 1: is a reporter for the Free Press. He's the host
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  Speaker 1: of the Breaking History podcast. You can follow Eli on
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  Speaker 1: x at Eli Lake. Eli were at a kind of
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  Speaker 1: a crossroads this weekend. The President's staying in town, not
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  Speaker 1: going to Don Junior's wedding, suggesting things are afoot. To me,
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  Speaker 1: there are three results, and neither you nor I have
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  Speaker 1: classified information. I haven't added clearance since nineteen eighty nine,
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  Speaker 1: so we're all guessing. But it does seem to me
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  Speaker 1: there are three categories. We go back to combat operations,
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  Speaker 1: Iran capitulates, or we continue in this in this land
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  Speaker 1: of nothing except the blockade. What do you think most
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  Speaker 1: likely and what do you think the media narratives would
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  Speaker 1: be attached to all three alternatives?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I would add a fourth option, and that is
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  Speaker 4: that there is clearly something that's happening. We're seeing some
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  Speaker 4: reporting on it of what Israel's misade has been doing
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  Speaker 4: in terms of what might be called a kind of
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  Speaker 4: political warfare and whether there is an opportunity to mobilize Iranians.
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  Speaker 4: I still think of that as kind of an end
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  Speaker 4: goal that we should keep in mind. It's unclear whether
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  Speaker 4: that's going to be happening now, given the state of
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  Speaker 4: sort of the security crackdown in Iran, the lack of
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  Speaker 4: any internet access and so forth, but let's just keep
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  Speaker 4: that kind of going on in the background.
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  Speaker 5: I think the media narrative is a damned orf. They
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  Speaker 5: do damn if they don't know.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I would hope that President Trump understands is
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  Speaker 4: that if he takes a capitulation deal, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: actually think he will, then he will be deemed a
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  Speaker 4: loser and the narrative will go from this war has
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  Speaker 4: been so costly, it's responsible for inflation, and to you know,
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  Speaker 4: the president got us in a misadventure and doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: much to show for it.
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  Speaker 5: I think he understands it'll be taco.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll be It'll be taco and if if, if, if,
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  Speaker 4: fighting resumes, then you'll see you know that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's a it's it's a it's a further lunge into
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  Speaker 4: the abyss and so forth. But I think that the
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  Speaker 4: media narratives are not We're dealing in a different kind
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  Speaker 4: of environment right now. This is a president who I
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  Speaker 4: don't think cares at all what.
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  Speaker 5: The elite media has to say.
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  Speaker 4: And in fact, I think you could argue that Trump's
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  Speaker 4: political rise is coincided with the loss of power for
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  Speaker 4: the elite media that you and I, you know, kind
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  Speaker 4: of have a memory of. But it's not the same
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  Speaker 4: when New York Times does not have the same kind
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  Speaker 4: of clout that it did before in terms of setting
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  Speaker 4: the national news agenda.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's much more.
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  Speaker 4: It's not the paper of records so much as it
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  Speaker 4: is the American equivalent of lemand the elite center left newspaper.
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  Speaker 4: And in that respect, the president doesn't care as much
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  Speaker 4: as past presidents, even Republican presidents cared. Reagan used to say, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, used to say that Ronald Reagan's superpowers. He
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  Speaker 4: didn't care what they said about the New York Times.
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  Speaker 4: But he lived in an a media environment where, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the White House had to worry about what the New
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  Speaker 4: York Times had to say. So that's on the one hand,
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  Speaker 4: there's that I think the pressure for Trump is coming
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  Speaker 4: politically from Congress, it's coming from his own party, and
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of jitter's right now about what the
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  Speaker 4: war means in turns terms of the actual midterms and
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  Speaker 4: how this will play. And I think the answer to that,
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  Speaker 4: if you're Trump and I think you would agree with me,
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  Speaker 4: is that if I lose the war, or am I
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  Speaker 4: perceived to lose the war, it's going to be worse.
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  Speaker 4: So you're just gotta have the only way out us through.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, I I have one hundred percent agree
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  Speaker 1: with you, and I don't care what the legacy media
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  Speaker 1: narrative is. I care what the narrative is on our team.
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  Speaker 1: By our team, I mean serious journalists who understand that
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  Speaker 1: Iran is a negative, stential threat to the world and
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  Speaker 1: if we can bring down the regime that's a world
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  Speaker 1: historical win that puts Trump on a pedestal. However, our team,
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  Speaker 1: if our team boisters him for the result, and there
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  Speaker 1: are people ready to do that if it's a bad result,
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  Speaker 1: that could hurt him in the mid terms because turnout
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  Speaker 1: will go down. We are the turnout engine. You me,
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  Speaker 1: everybody who talks about this sort of stuff. We drive
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  Speaker 1: turnout when we say, hey, pay no attention to those
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  Speaker 1: bozos over the New York Times. This was a big win,
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  Speaker 1: and we explained it at length. I mean we He's
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  Speaker 1: just the one thing that the president isn't great at
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  Speaker 1: is explaining the importance of this. He's very good at
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  Speaker 1: defining the bottom line, no nuke, no nuke, no nuke,
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  Speaker 1: no nuke. He's not really great at the eloquence part. Now,
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  Speaker 1: am I being too harsh?
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  Speaker 4: There are moments when I think that Trump can cut
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  Speaker 4: through a lot of the hazy.
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  Speaker 5: He can be funny at times as well. But I
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  Speaker 5: think you're generally right. I mean, I think he he.
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  Speaker 4: Would have done himself a big favor if he'd given
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  Speaker 4: his kind of oval office at dress, if there was
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  Speaker 4: an effort to try to prepare the public for this
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  Speaker 4: between January and the end of February when the war
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  Speaker 4: actually started. It doesn't mean that you give away your
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  Speaker 4: tactical advantage. It doesn't mean that you know there are
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  Speaker 4: ways of doing it. But I think that he could
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  Speaker 4: have He could have kind of brought the general public
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  Speaker 4: along better, and then I think he would have probably
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  Speaker 4: seen higher approval ratings for it.
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  Speaker 1: I do know, yeah, I do know that we have
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  Speaker 1: more resources going in, more ships, more different kinds of arsenal,
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  Speaker 1: more defensive weaponry, and that this blockade is going to
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  Speaker 1: just be a killer. If the president has in front
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  Speaker 1: of him data classified information that says they're dying, they're
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  Speaker 1: bleeding out. It's not as fast as we want, but
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  Speaker 1: they're bleeding out their gas lines or an hour long.
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  Speaker 1: The people are upset, should he share that with us?
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  Speaker 1: Should he tell.
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  Speaker 6: Us that, well?
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  Speaker 5: I would.
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  Speaker 4: There's an argument saying no, because it's easy for Iran,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: which can still control the propaganda space, to try to
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: kind of counter it. And also the other thing is
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: this normal countries would not have been able to survive
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: this long. Iran's on a normal country. They don't care
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: about the well being of their people. In fact, they're
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: happy to slaughter them and see them suffer. So in
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: that respect, the timeline, even though the pain will be there,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: is longer because you do not have a regime that
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: is in any way accountable to the people. So I'm
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: not sure that that's going to necessarily help him. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: think it's better to help him to kind of keep
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: repeating what we heard from Admiral Cooper last week, which was, hey,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: we've taken out this percentage of Iran's industrial base. We've
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: got more of this, more of that. Now there are gaps.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think they have more missiles than we
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: originally thought because we thought we'd taken out more of them.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: That's okay, But go through the list of how Iran's
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: conventional military and its nuclear program is now a largely rubble.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: That's a good thing.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I think most Americans can understand that, and it cannot
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: be a threat to its or neighbors, and that if
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: he can then back that up with and here's a
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: credible plan for how we are going to rest control
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: of the Strait up Hormus. That's the way you got it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I think that's the way he can do it. And
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I think there's so many options. You and I both
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: talked to people retired and active in the US Navy.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: This is not an mission impossible. This is something that's
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: quite doing it not. Do you think this is.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Pausitive a minute, Eli will be right back. Don't go anywhere, America.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I'm back with Eli. Eli. We were talking about the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: American narrative, who shapes that narrative for the middle ten percent.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's the New York Times, And I've
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: confessed repeatedly, I only subscribe to the Wall Street Journal,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the Free Press and news items. I want real news.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I can't be brainwashed by the New York Time, who
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: sets the narrative anymore.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: No, it's a combination of things, I think. I think
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: you get a lot of it. In terms of the
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: algorithms that feed your social media. A lot of Americans
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: get their news that way, whether it's Facebook, like most
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: normal Americans are not on X the way that you
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: and I are, but you know, certainly Facebook is still
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: very powerful, I think, and I think it's it's also
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: just a matter of so it's I think it's in
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: a cumul it's a bunch of different sources in one.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: So it's no longer that all you would get all
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: of your news because you would read the New York Times,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: you're a local newspaper. I think you're getting stories from
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: all over the place, and you know the problem is
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: is that sometimes, especially when you're talking about viral stuff
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: and the defamation of Israel, some of those stories can
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: just be completely untrue, So that that's time.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: What are yours? What is your assessment of Axios Barack
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and that pipeline of information. I don't have a fix
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I mean Axios is very good for inside Washington stuff.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Did you say, Grock, Yeah, I know Barock Revied. You
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: mean yeah, okay, so Barock Revied. I mean, listen, I
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: know him. He there's always there have always been reporters
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: like Barack Revied and he is, in my opinion, very
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: good at what he does, which is he covers the
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: sort of minute by minute diplomacy he obviously has sort
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: is because of his very quick turnaround time.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: And this is not a criticism of him.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: He is sometimes used by his sources to try to
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: influence events, whether it's you know, the oil markets or
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: other kinds of things. But I don't think I think
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Barack Reviede is talking to real people who he grants
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: on an anonymity for it's a long kind of Washington
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: tradition and you can learn something. What I would say
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: is that it's not the final word on things. Sometimes
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you read a Barock Revied piece and you say to yourself,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: there's a reason why people want this out, and there's
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: a reason why the people who talk to him wanted
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: this out, and I think he has become in some ways.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: And there's nothing wrong with this a vessel for people
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: inside the administration who disagree with the president's policies at times.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: But that is by the way.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I just want to, you know, say, there've always been
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: journalists like that, and I'm sure a problem with it,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: you know, So it's I don't want to put him
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: in the category as some people do is says, oh,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: he's just a tool, he's being used.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: That's a.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Kind of like, yeah, if you're looking up a news conclusion,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: there are different things in your recipe, and I see
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Barack and I read Barack. I just don't know how
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: much of it to put into my recipe. I want
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to close by asking you about Marco Rubio at NATO today.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: He had very sharp words for NATO, and I think
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: we are at a crossroads with NATO. They better get
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: in this game in a hurry. And I really believe that,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: do you, Eli.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I think they do need to get into the game.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: But there's a deeper issue with you go back to
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: the speech that I think Rubio gave it NATO a
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: few months ago, and that is that there is like
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: almost a cultural issue going on right now inside of
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: our traditional European allies, and we have to start asking
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: ourselves a very serious question you and that is, even
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: if the Germans, even if the French contributed enough money
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: to their defense, would their young people is there a
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: military tradition there, would they be willing to fight?
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: There have been.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Surveys that I've seen of German young people that would
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: not even fight if they were invaded.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: A majority under thirty.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I think that right there is telling me that there's
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: a deeper problem that cannot be solved in terms of
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: just the budget.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: It's a cultural issue.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: And I would say the flip side of that is
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: the kind of immigration policy. If you're letting people in
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: who are not willing to assimilate into the majority culture,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: you're setting yourself up for a catastrophe later on. Those
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: are the issues, and that affects US national security as well.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: And when I talk to Trump administration people, that's some
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: of the things that they talk to me about, which
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: is when we talk about NATO, which is that these
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: are the long term, longer horizon, but it's something we
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: got to start thinking very seriously about.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: And That's why I'm glad the President's sending five thousand
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: trips to Poland. Talk about a signal. Yep. If Finland
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and Poland want to be serious, we can play ball
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: with them. Ukraine is serious, obviously, maybe Bulgarian Romania, but
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: old Europe, as Donald Rumsell used to say, it might
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: be sclerotic and your death, heroe, Eli Lake, always great
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to talk to. You have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Follow Eli on x at Eli Lake, listen to the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Breaking History podcast, read him in the Free Press, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: we'll talk to him again next week. Thank you, Elike.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Hewett, joined now by
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Matt Continenti. Matt is the head of domestic policy Studies
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: at the American Enterprise Indent Study. He's a columnist for
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. He's a Thursday contributor to the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Commentary podcast. And Matt John was not eager to embrace
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: your requests that Commentary make a formal request to the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: President to resume combat operation, so preps you and I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: can do that. Shall we make the formal requests and
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: see if that gets anywhere?
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: I know you talked to the President regularly Hughes. So
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: a request coming from you to restart the military campaign.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Could could go far. It could field the deal for US.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm worried. Did you see the alleged deal that Noah
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Rothman just reported on. It's not a deal. It would
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: be a surrender by US. I don't think it's real.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: We've had earlier deals, usually leaked to Arab media outlets,
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: as I believe this one was. They don't tend to
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: have anything to do with reality. So I look at
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: this current deal with skepticism.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: You know that' said.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: I've also seen the reports that the high level officials
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: of both Pakistan and Cutter have gone to Tehran to
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: exert some pressure or to do some type of negotiation
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: as we're haggling with Iran. So that makes me worried
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: that there might be some kind of announcement this weekend
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: that doesn't have to do with resuming the military campaign
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: and opening the strait of horror moves.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about that too. I don't know anything. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: haven't had a clearance since nineteen eighty nine, but I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: think there are only three options for and what comes next.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Number one, resumption of combat operations number two, we get
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the uranium, they opened the strait, and we negotiate on
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: other stuff. And then number three we do a bad deal.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: What do you think then we can't control what happened.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to happen. What would the
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: media narratives be that followed those three outcomes?
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: Matt Well, if the combat operations rezoom, I think the
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: media will go back into its anti war mode that
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: we saw throughout Operation Epic Fury Hue.
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: Just the constant belittling of the American war effort, despite
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: all evidence to the contrary, and a glorification is the
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: only way I can see it. About every single Iranian
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: missile launch or every time Iranian munition landed near its target,
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: it was cast by the media as some great Iranian victory.
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: This is the same media that many parts of which
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: claim that are on more powerful than ever after America
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: and Israel hit combined nineteen thousand targets, destroyed, the Navy,
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: destroyed the missile production capacity, destroyed the defense industrial based,
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: and destroyed the leadership. So there would be an anti
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: war narrative if combat resumed, there would be a I
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: don't know how to say a bad deal would be greeted,
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: probably with a kind of negative headlines, skeptical of any result.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: I guess it's safe to say that anything Trump does
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: is going to be greeted by negative media. The worry, though,
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: is that Trump is going to go for a deal
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: that looks good on paper but doesn't actually address the
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: underlying issues here. And I think the two underlying issues
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: are these. The first is that Iran cannot exit this
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: conflict with control over the Strait of Hormuz.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: That would be a victory for Iran.
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: And then the second is we can't allow now US
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: funds or US permission for the regime to rebuild and rearm.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: And right now we're.
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: In the situation where the blockade is working, it's effective,
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: and we are not relieving sanctions.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: The question is how long does.
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: President Trump have the will to maintain this blockade so
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: that it can continue to exert damage on the Iranian
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: regime and the Iranian economy squeeze it that way.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Well, that's why I brought up at the beginning. I
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: don't know, we don't know what's going on inside of Iran.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: If the president is getting a daily briefing from the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: CIA that the gas lines are getting longer, and fighting
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: is broken out here and people are out of food there,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: he might be tempted just to keep the pillow on
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: their head and not tell us, right, just not tell us,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: because if that story comes to light that Iranians are
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: starving and they're out of gas, we'll be told that
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: we're being inhumane. That's the narrative that's waiting on the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: left side of the stage to come on stage, that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: we've got to feed the Iranian people. Is that not right?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Am I overestimating our media?
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: No?
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: I think there's something to that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: You know, we don't know what's going on Iran. We
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: have some pictures of them rebuilding their drones. Drones are
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: easier to rebuild than missiles. Obviously, we have some reports
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: of executions resuming.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: We know that the internet is out.
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: There are also reports of fights breaking out between soldiers
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: who haven't been paid. There's clearly gaps within the leadership,
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: as the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps trying to exert control
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: and the political leadership, many of whom were once the IRGC,
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: are trying to do something different.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: That's why it's important to keep up the pressure.
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: At the very least and not really to somehow give
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: this regime a lifeline.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk with Matt during the break about
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: his new Wall Street General column on Donald Trump's Brawler,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: which I recommend to all of and you can listen
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to it on the Big Weekend Pod and he'll be
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: back after the break thetak autopsy, Yeah, originally stuff Autopsy taketotes.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm back with Matt Continetty, whose new Wall Street Journal
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: column is about Donald Trump the Brawler, and he's been winning.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: He took down Massi, he took down Cassidy, he took
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: down most of the senators in Indiana. I don't know
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: why he wants to take down John corn And is
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a reliable vote, and I hope he doesn't. I hope
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: John Cornan survives. There is a limit, right, What's the
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: purpose of winning if your cockage blows up like it
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: did yesterday? Matt, what did he go a bridge too far?
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: I think that by going after these incumbents and succeeding,
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: Trump is burning some bridges, you know, because the fact
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: is when you win, and when you're when you defeat
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: an incumbent in a primary, they still have to serve
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: out the term. And since they no longer have anything
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: they owe to you. To President Trump, They're going to
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: be more independent are They're going to go against you
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: in some ways. They're going to prove your critique of
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: opposing the president and his agenda. That's what we've seen
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: from Senator Tom Tillis, who wasn't defeated in a primary,
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: but was essentially forced into retirement by Trump. We saw
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: that this week from Cassidy. We're seeing it from senators
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: who are very wary of some recent Trump developments, whether
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: it's the money for the ballroom, whether it's the weaponization fund.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: And the point is, when the margin.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: Is so small fifty three Republican senators, every single one counts.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: And so if I were in.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: The White House Legislative Affairs Team, I'd be worried that
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: if Senator Cornyn is defeated by Trump endorsed state Attorney
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: General Ken Paxton in Texas next week, you're going to
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: have another Republican senator who feels, you know what, I
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: only have seven eight months left, and I'm going to
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: do what I want, not necessarily what the party is
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: interested in or what President Trump is demanding.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Now, I listened with interest to your commentary in the ballroom.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a writer. Die guy on the ballroom. He tore
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: down the building. Everyone who's ever been in the South
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Lawn at any kind of an event knows it's crap
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: for big events. And we can't put on a big dinner.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And they may not like the decorating choices, but the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: next president can change that. And meanwhile, if you've been
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: in the basement of the White House, it goes down
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: quite a ways. And I went there a long time ago.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's deeper now. There are reasons to build
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: things in the White House. Why are the Republicans shooting
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: themselves in the foot? They ought to just stand up
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and say it's a ballroom and we need what's underneath it,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and we're giving you the money. I just don't understand
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the self inflicted wounds. Matt Contnetty Hugh.
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: Republicans are in very bad shape right now. I think
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: they've caught beltweih itis. A lot of these Republicans in
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: the House and in the Senate that all they're doing
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: is responding to the headlines they read in the Washington Post.
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: And that is always bad for Republicans because then you
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: start just basically following the media's cues and not thinking
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: about what is in your best political interest. You're absolutely right.
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: The building's torn down. Just authorized the reconstruct. Finish and
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: you're going to have to live with it. Just finish
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: it and.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Then when it's eventually built, you can take some credit.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean this personally. They're my friends. Unsubscribed
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to Politico Axios some for all the newsletters. They don't
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: mean anything. I'm coming right back with Matt on the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: other side. Stay tuned.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: What's your big beef for the Nazis?
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: What's my big beef?
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: Yes, it seems like you're always my big beef.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: You're always knocking the Nazis.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: That's it's this time.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: For now, Bruxton. It seems any education at.
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: All at that knowledge, I went to college.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: What college, queens? I've Governor Chris Christie said on his
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: honeymoon night.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: I couldn't physically do this by myself, And I.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Think that's why you are in Comedy Central.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine if you were in real show business
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: where you'd be.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: Then good for you and three cheers for you.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I can tell that you are a pooser, and I
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: don't mean that negatively.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Poser. Well, I mean youngs. I think like I'm singing
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: out pay some funny.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Girls, Welcome back America. We're playing a little Steve Martin.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Because the recommendation that Martin short, because the recommendation by
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Mat Cott now was on a Martin Short documentary. What's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the name of it, Matt.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: Marty Life is Short, and it's on Netflix.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: And you said that you love the Marty Life is Short,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: and that you like coterie stories. I don't understand that.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Explain that to me.
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: So coterie is a group of like minded people, and
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: they who come together and you know, share ideas and
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: usually engage in a cooperative enterprise. So it's basically a
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: small group of people. And as I've read and studied
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: over the years, Hugh, I've just found that so much
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: happens because of coteries. Think of the American founding, as
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: I've been thinking about in the past two hundred and
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: fifty year, there's a coterie of men. They're are all
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: in one place at one time, they're writing together, and
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: they're brilliant, and of course they create the greatest political
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: system in human history, the American political system. The Renaissance
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: is the same way, right, you can look at Elizabethan writers.
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: You know, Shakespeare was part of a whole group of
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: people who are writing different plays, and I happen to
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: think the same applies to Canadian comics in the fifteen seventies,
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: because Martin Short is just part of this incredibly talented
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: crew which includes Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara, John Candy, Paul Schaeffer.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: You know, the list goes on and on, and it's
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: just fascinating to me how these talented people somehow find
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: each other different parts of our history, and when they do,
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: the talent just explodes.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: So my question about the documentary The Fetching Missus Shwett
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: has already said that's on for tonight. I came back
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: from my trundle and I said, have you heard of this?
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: We're gonna watch that tonight because she loves Martin Short. However,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I hate finding out terrible things about people. I learned
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: on the commentary podcast He's had quite a lot of
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: tragedy in his life. That's not finding out something terrible.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: He's not a terrible person. Terrible things have happened to him.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Is that their correct assessment?
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: Well, I think like any person he's suffered loss, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: I think he's suffered greater loss than most. He's lost
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: a wife who he loved very deeply, and he's also
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: recently lost a daughter. That aspect was not covered in
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: the documentary, though the film is dedicated to the daughter's memory.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: But I think what struck me about.
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: The movie and why I really liked it as a
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: Martin Short fan, as a fan of the comics from
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: the seventies and eighties, is he just has a remarkably
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: realistic but also very hopeful and faithful outlook on life,
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: and he just loves making people, making people laugh. You
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: left out on that, Jiminy Glick. Real One of my
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: favorites is when Jimmy Glick asked Steven Spielberg when he
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: was going to make a movie that really connected with
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: the public.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get. I can't wait to see Martin Spielberg.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, Stephen Spielberg has a whole movie of Martin Short,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: which you teased on the podcast. I'm looking forward to that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Speaking of comedy, the DNC released It's autopsy. As I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: said on Fox earlier today, it's not an odd tome,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: it's an alibi. Apparently nothing no one had anything to
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: do with the campaign disaster that was twenty twenty four.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: What do you make of the rollout of a disastrous autopsy.
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: Well, I think it's emblematic of the state of the
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: Democratic Party and the Democratic National Committee in particular.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Hugh.
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: I have to remember, this is a party whose ratings
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: are down on the dumps, mainly or partly because many
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: Democrats don't like the way that Ken Martin, the DNC chair,
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: is performing. Their fundraising is down in the dumps. They
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: kept this report hidden from the public, and now we
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: know why. The only reason it was released was because
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: I believe CNN had the scoop and was publishing parts
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: of it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: And then you read the whole thing and you see.
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: That basically it contains basic factual errors. It doesn't really
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: have a conclusion. It has a total kind of, as
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: you said, alibi aspects to it not really facing up
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: to Joe Biden and all the cover up about his health,
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: and I think I think is also unnecessary in a
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: large way. Right, we know why the Democrats lost in
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: twenty twenty four.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: All it takes is to look at an exit poll.
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: You can see that they were clearly out of touch
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: on the economics and on the culture, and Kamala Harris
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: was not the type of leader the country desired at
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: the time. So Democrats need to face up to the
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: reality that's staring them in the face. But instead they
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: just seem to be kind of running around in circles.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: As a result of this leak of this autopsy.
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: You know, the.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: The collapse the Democratic Party began with the debate on
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: June twenty seventh with President Biden and ever since then
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: it's been the longest running political train wreck in American
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: political history. Because it's ongoing. Roe Kanna today announced about
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the autopsy, which is really an alibi that the problem
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: was we did not appropriately blame Israel and stand by God,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: is there any and in sight for the Democratic freefall
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: because Republicans are in trouble, as you said earlier, but
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: the Democrats are in freefall.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: No, they are.
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: And I wrote a piece earlier this week for the
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal on that woke is very much alive.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, I mean you.
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: Hear all these stories about peak woke or woke is dead,
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: or Democrats are going to move away from pronouns and
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: girls boys and girls sports.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: But that's not the case.
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: Woke is everywhere, and what is most disturbing to me
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: is that it seems that anti Israel rhetoric, anti Semitic hetoric,
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: and behavior in many ways is becoming kind of the
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: connective tissue of the Democratic Party. It's the thing that
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: almost everyone agrees on, and you see it in that
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: Rokana comment.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: If if we get a retirement from the court. One
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: of the reasons to put David Strass Eighth Circuit on
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: the short list is not only because Trump appointed him
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen and he's been right about everything with
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the Clarence Thomas Clerk. He's a fine justice, or would
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: be a fine justice, but he's also the grandchild of
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Holocaust bibers, and he's Jewish, and I think I don't
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: do identity politics. But as a plus at the end
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: of the line, David Strass, have you heard of him? Matt?
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: I have from my best source, Hugh Hewett.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: There you go, David Stross. That's the guy I'm campaigning
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: for because of where we are as a nation on
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the anti Semitism problem, and because we need an originalist
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: if Justin Alito steps down. Matt Cottenetty, thank you follow
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: him on exit. Continenetty followed me to the next time
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: you had been Dominich as the opinion editor at The
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Daily Wire. He is, of course a Fox News contributor,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the host of The Big Ben Show. I know a
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: lot to talk with him about, but I want to
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: start from left field with Kyle Busch dying at the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: age of forty one. I'm not a racing guy, Ben,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Are you a racing guy?
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: I am to a limited aspect. I typically watched the
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: major races and then but the other the personalities are
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: are definitely part of what I pay attention to. And
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: and Kyle had a lot of personality. Uh he was
• 43:14
  Speaker 9: he played the villain quite a lot, and but he
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: was also a you know, great driver, incredibly accomplished and
• 43:24
  Speaker 9: and this is I mean, this is a very tragic situation.
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: It's really awful and sad and and uh, you know,
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: it's it's almost eerie the fact that the last truck
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: race that he had the remarks that he made after
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: about uh, you know, having to appreciating every time you
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: win because you don't know if it's going to be
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: your last. And and you know, his son celebrated in
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: the eleventh, his eleventh birthday just a few uh days ago.
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: And it's just a very very sad situation. And so
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: I'm sure you know, heart goes out of the family
• 43:55
  Speaker 9: and the racing fandom community is really rocked by this.
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: He was someone who was expected to be racing for
• 44:02
  Speaker 9: a long time.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: So what I don't like is I opened up the
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: New York Post last night and I see the headline
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and immediately the comments are.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Full of his COVID.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: And is that going to be the storyline after any
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: young person dies, that they got the shot and therefore
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: they died five years later? Is that going to be it?
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: Well, I will say that, you know, in my own
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: friend group, we had a couple of younger men in
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: particular die who had been kind of a no offense
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: to them, but they had overdone it on the booster
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: side of things. These are friends from New York and
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: both died of heart related issues. You don't know if
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: that's related or not, but there is some evidence that
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: it can be. I think that in this case, there
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: is no evidence that's had anything to do with that.
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: And I had a science infection and everything else like
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: that going up to this. He talked about being sick.
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: So who knows what exactly it was. I will just
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: say you from personal experience, you reach a point in
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: life where even guys who were resistant to go to
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: go to the doctor, you gotta go.
• 45:06
  Speaker 11: Oh yeah.
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: So I just always encourage, Hey, if you're worried about
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: something and you're over the age of like thirty five,
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: get it checked out. Don't like just wait the way
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: that she used to when you were twenty five, because
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: that's not a good idea.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: All right now, I want to switch to the Big
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Ben podcast. You're opening monologue, which I found very provocative.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: There is an age gap, not a gender gap, not
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a soccer mom gap, an age gap. Republicans are doing
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: better on the war and everything with everyone over the
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: age of forty five, and and Democrats are doing a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: lot better on everything with those who are under forty five.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I think Ben Hugh hewittt making this up as he
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: goes along. The only thing I wanted to do when
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I was young was get a house, because that's the
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: first step. And getting a house meant saving for a
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: down payment, which is really hard when you got student
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: loan debt. I had some, but we paid that off
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: and the fetching. Mississio was working and we bought the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Farlington Town town out. You know, we did the whole
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: deal in DC, one step at the time. And I
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: want to see the Republicans come up with a hey,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: we will match your down payment. We'll take half the
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: upside or forty percent on the upside, burning off over
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: you something that goes after housing and kids. That's their
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: sweet spot. What would you think is a sweet spot
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: for younger voters.
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: No, I actually think that you're really onto something there.
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: And keep in mind, so much of this is driven
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: by frustrations that are created by leftist policies venting the
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: building of homes the areas that they control. And just
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: think about it. If you're a young person who lives
• 46:33
  Speaker 9: in a blue city and who might otherwise be inclined
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: to vote Republican in a congressional election or something like that,
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: and what you see around you is a situation where
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: you know, if you're going to get married and have kids,
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: you're going to be doing it in an apartment, which
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: not a lot of people want to do, and a
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: lot of them still have, especially if they have conservative values.
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: The idea that you should necessarily be able to afford
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: a home before you start going down that road. People
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: are priced out of the market in part because older
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: people are not selling their homes. They're keeping multiple homes,
• 47:07
  Speaker 9: they have a well over index in terms of the
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: amount of property that they own in the country, and
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: none of them seem all that interested or willing to
• 47:16
  Speaker 9: sell it. And I don't entirely blame them. It's a
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: rational decision on their part, but it's one of these
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: situations that has created and been exacerbated by these blue
• 47:25
  Speaker 9: city policies and the like, which essentially make it impossible
• 47:29
  Speaker 9: to build homes in states like California. As I was
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: discussing earlier with Adam Carolla, the idea that you have
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: to have all these different, you know, requirements, regulations, you
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: have to do all these ridiculous things that make no
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: sense to carpenters, but that the bureaucrats have decided you
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: have to do because safetyism is the rule. That's the
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: kind of approach that ultimately leads to people being priced
• 47:52
  Speaker 9: out of the market, becoming frustrated and becoming resentful of
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: a lot of things. And guess what when someone comes
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: along like Zoron Mamdani and says I'm just going to
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: have the state take over the housing situation, and I'm
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: going to fix this with my power. Then they start
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: to listen to them, because they're not ideological. Unless you
• 48:08
  Speaker 9: have a a conservative resistance to that kind of messaging,
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: unless you've been taught capitalism by accident, by listening to
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: someone other than in the public schools, then you're very
• 48:19
  Speaker 9: open to that kind of argument from the left. It's
• 48:21
  Speaker 9: a foolish argument, of course, but it's also one that
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: Republicans I think are not addressing.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And I want to explain to people not inside the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Beltway like you and me. Fallington was World War Two
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: housing that has served as the entry level housing market
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: for five generations of Belt white people. They get a
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: two bedroom attached townhouse and then from there they moved
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to rest In and from there they moved to Vienna
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: and Oakton, and then they come back in or they
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: go to great Ball. There's a path, but the path
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: is shut down. The path doesn't exist. And I'm the
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: land you slawyer. For thirty years in California, we don't
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: build those kind of houses anymore because for thirty years
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the left didn't like that. They wanted stuff that wasn't
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: going to get built the dead no market for it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: But I think if we come up with a match
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: for a down payment, and we pour our money not
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: into Section eight housing but to getting young married adults
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: in the houses, we win.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah. I think a big part of this hue is
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: that the Party has been rolled and this is something
• 49:27
  Speaker 9: that I hope came through, but I probably should have
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: stressed in a larger way. The Party has been lolled
• 49:33
  Speaker 9: in the happiness about the economy because the people that
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: they have in their ears are happy about the stock market. Yes,
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: happy about what's been going on there. The stock market
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: is not the economy. It is an indicator, but it
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: is not the economy. And that's the problem that I
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: think we're facing, which is that Republicans, if you are
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: a if you are a Republican who watches Fox and
• 49:53
  Speaker 9: I hope that you do, if you pay attention to
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: what's going on on the stock market, if you have
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: seen your portfolio perform very very well, you feel like
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: the economy is doing really well. And if you actually
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: look at the numbers and the breakdowns in that New
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: York Times Siena poll, there are a lot of people
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: who are way more optimistic about the economy than you
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: might think given the general coverage of it. But then
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: you see young people who do not have that same experience,
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: who are not living that way at this point in
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: their lives. People who are under forty five are sour
• 50:25
  Speaker 9: on the economy. They do not think it is working,
• 50:27
  Speaker 9: and many of them are very fearful that it is
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: going to go down the tubes. They're actually, you know,
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: in the opposite sort of category to such a degree
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: that it's like living in two frames of reality. And
• 50:38
  Speaker 9: I don't think those are the people that Republicans know
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: they need to actually listen to now, because forty five,
• 50:46
  Speaker 9: forty five is not young. I'm forty four years old.
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: You are not young. You have a family, you have
• 50:51
  Speaker 9: a mortgage, you have all these different you know, things
• 50:53
  Speaker 9: that you have to pay for. You're paying attention to
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: the economy, you're just experiencing it in a very different
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: way because you have to buy eggs a lot more
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: often than the other people do. As are actually okay now,
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: by the way, but the point being, you have to
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: spend things. You spend money on things that a lot
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: of the people who are over forty five don't have
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: to spend things on the other thing, by the way
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: health care costs, I don't know why we have just
• 51:17
  Speaker 9: ceded this argument entirely to the Democrats. The Democrats own
• 51:20
  Speaker 9: the healthcare system in America. Everything that's gone on in
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: the healthcare system is what they did to it, okay,
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: and yet somehow it's Republicans problem that they have to fix.
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: I just don't understand why this is an argument that
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: Republicans have lost so fully. You. I don't know if
• 51:34
  Speaker 9: there's any way to clock back, but essentially they get
• 51:37
  Speaker 9: blamed for everything that's going on, even though they had
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: nothing to do with the policies that made it.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: And I gotta say one more thing, if you're twenty five,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: AI should scare the living daylights out of you. If
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: you don't know. If you make the wrong choice for
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: a career, you're screwed and choice by quickly.
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: Republicans are very quickly becoming the party of AI, whether
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: they want to, whether they want that label or or not,
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: they are viewed as the party in favor of data
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: centers and a party in favor of these of these
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: tech billionaires and the like and Hugh. I actually think
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: that the backlash to this is something that's very dangerous.
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: I talk about it in an interview that we have
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: going up tomorrow at the Daily Wire with Jason mieris
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: about the danger that we believe is posed by this
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: Luigi Maanngioni culture. Sam Altman has survived two attempts on
• 52:22
  Speaker 9: his life already, and that and serious attempts. And the
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: thing that I think is significant, Yes, wow, there are
• 52:31
  Speaker 9: backlashes to this that are that are going to take
• 52:35
  Speaker 9: take off across the country. To the Wall Street Journal
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: article I commend to you from earlier this week, Hugh
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: that looks at some of these cases, including local officials
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: who received death threats for the way that they've voted
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: about data centers and the like. And of course a
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: lot of this is fed by Chinese propaganda that wants
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: to undermine these data centers, is making a lot of
• 52:53
  Speaker 9: the same arguments that they've made in the past around
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: climate doomerism and the like, and they are pushing that
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: on social media to be and the degree to scare
• 53:02
  Speaker 9: people into feeling like if the US has has these
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: kind of advances and technology that we are that they
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: are going to be the one to paid price.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: You got to listen to Big Ben podcast this week.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: He'll be with me on the other side during the
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: break when I'm talking about the autopsy. On the other
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: side of Ron Doco Anywhere, I'm you gew it with
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Ben Dominich. Follow Ben on xt B Dominich as well.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I am back with Ben Dominich during a break from
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: our National Network show and this will be on the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Big Weekend Pod. Ben the autopsy I was on Fox earlier.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I said, not an autopsy from the DNCA. It's an alibi.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: No one's responsible over everyone, No one was near anything
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: that happened. What did you make of this fiasco?
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: It's an absolute, absolute joke. I mean they there was
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: a good encapsulation by my friend and Amber Duke on
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: X earlier, and then we have a piece by Alex
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: Castalanis today at the Wire that goes over it. But
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: the truth is that the Democratic Party does not want
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: to admit what killed them. They do not want to admit,
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: you know any I mean the fact that they're sweeping
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: Joe Biden basically under the rug, the fact that there's
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: no mention of ultra war issues like trans you know,
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: and women girls and you know, having a face off
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: against men in their sports. They want to turn this
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: essentially into something that is a completely different narrative about
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: why they lost in twenty twenty four, and I think
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: it's laughable. I also understand both why they did not
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: want to release this now because it's such a joke,
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: because it doesn't grapple with any of the real problems
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: that they have. And I think, you know, the real
• 54:42
  Speaker 9: thing that we're actually running about this is Democrats are
• 54:45
  Speaker 9: not actually taking any lessons away from twenty twenty four.
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: They are pretending like this was just a unique scenario,
• 54:52
  Speaker 9: a you know, a historically weird scenario that Tomlin just
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: needed more time to run, or you know, that there
• 54:59
  Speaker 9: were no is and sold defects about her campaign. They
• 55:02
  Speaker 9: had this annotated version where they basically are saying, you
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: know that none of the cases were actually made for
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: this absurd I think that at the end of the day,
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: the Democrats that just don't want to admit what they
• 55:14
  Speaker 9: got wrong about the country in twenty twenty four, and
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: it's why you see them doing the same thing again.
• 55:20
  Speaker 9: Here they are this week, you know, knocking down the
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: Women's Museum because Republicans basically were insistent that we do
• 55:28
  Speaker 9: not allow men who believe that they are to be
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: in that us. Oh my god, they have learned nothing, Hugh, Absolutely.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: No, I forget nothing now. Roe Kanna came out and
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: immediately said autopsy is terrible because it didn't bring up
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: the fact that we should have stood up for Gaza.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: And I immediately came away with the idea, if there's
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: a Supreme Court vacancy this summer, I want the president
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: of nominated originalists Thomas or an Aldo Clerk, someone had
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: been on the bench for a long time. And that's
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: my field, and that in that field, there's a guy
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: named David strass S trs judge of the Eighth Circuit,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: happens to be Jewish, goes to temple, grandchild of Holocaust survivors,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: a superb judge. Do you think nominating a Jewish nominee
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: we got a minute helps us in November?
• 56:17
  Speaker 9: You know what, Hugh, I think it will drive the
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: Democratic left absolutely nut, exactly something like that. And when
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: you drive them nuts, they have a very difficult ability
• 56:30
  Speaker 9: to create any kind of wall between their brain and
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: their mouth. So I think that that's something that is
• 56:35
  Speaker 9: ultimately politically helpful. You know, I don't know if he's
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: the best choice or not, but I would just say politically,
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: that is absolutely something that would benefit the.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Republicans Tras look him up. He's right on every decision.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: When he dessents, he's right to dissent when he writes
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: for the majority, and he's backed up the President often
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: just up there in Minnesota and South Dakota and North Dakota,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: not many people know the judges up there. He's a keeper.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back with Ben Dominich. Stay tuned, Welcome
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: back America. Ben dominis back for seven more minutes. Then,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: as we speak on the web, two narratives are emerging.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: One is we're about to sign a document that must
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: resemble what Imperial Japan signed on the Missouri in nineteen
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: forty five. It's a complete loss. And then there's a
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: story in the Wall Street Journal Trump is returning immediately
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: to the White House because combat operations are in the offing.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: What do you hear? What do you think?
• 57:33
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 57:33
  Speaker 9: I think that is I actually, I mean I believe
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: that reporting. And I believe it not just because of
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: that reporting, but because it's what I'm hearing as well.
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: And you know, I think that as much as people
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: would like to laugh about it. The president actually does
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: need to be here as opposed to going to his
• 57:48
  Speaker 9: son's wedding all time. Trump clip by the way, about that.
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: But the thing that really strikes me about this is,
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: and I think we've talked about this before a number
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: of times, obviously the president is not willing to accept
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: a bad deal in this situation. There are people around
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: him in his ear who would be, I think, willing
• 58:10
  Speaker 9: to accept a bad deal because of the politics, because
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: of the domestic politics of the situation, because they worry
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: that things will not write the ship in time. The
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: president does not have that attitude, and I think that
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: he is. This is the thing that's so interesting about it.
• 58:24
  Speaker 9: Because you hear all the time about people, you know,
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: it's the blind men and the elephant. They're like, well,
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: Trump's like this, and Trump is like that. The actual
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: thing is that the president keeps his own counsel, and
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: as much as he takes the advice from people around
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: him and hears them out, he knows what he wants
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: and he knows where to He knows the end game
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: that he wants to pursue. And from my perspective, he
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: has been the one kind of holding back to people
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: who have been in his ear, and they definitely mean
• 58:50
  Speaker 9: they are fellow Republicans who are concerned about what's going on.
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: By the way, some of those same people are on
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: Capitol Hill, you know, touching a hitsy fit right now
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: about this weaponization fund. And those are the same people
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: who want to A lot of the same people want
• 59:04
  Speaker 9: him to back off when it comes to Iran because
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: of their own electoral situations or because of the cycle,
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: et cetera. I think that the President is very firmly
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: of the position that no, I want to win, and
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: win has certain definitions for me, and none of them
• 59:18
  Speaker 9: are in this document.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, last question. Shelley Moore, Capito, senator from West Virginia
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: on Approaches, was on the show on Thursday. She said,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I am a finished the job person. I have to
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: think a majority of the Republican confidence of the Senate
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: are finished the job. People like Tom Cotton and Roger
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Wicker put out a statement today, Susan Collins is no
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: shrinking violence. I just can't believe that anyone doesn't want
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: to win. They'll all get wiped out. Well, we'll actually
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: lose the Senate if we lose this.
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: That's the thing. That's the thing I think, Hugh, that
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: some of these people are very short sighted, and I
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: just the perspective that I have on this is, look,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: you're about to be six months into a year, and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 9: you have done very little, from my perspective, to establish
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: a Republican narrative about what we will do for you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: if you reelect us or if you elect us. They
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: have done very little. I think that is good. In
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: that vicinity. They have been squabbling amongst themselves and with
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: the White House. I think that's very stupid, and I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: think that instead they need to get on the same
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 9: page and understand, you are in this, this is happening,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 9: and you need to be dedicated to victory in this
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 9: situation because if you don't achieve it, that is going
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: to be the test of this election one way or
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: the other. People will say they're voting on the economy,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 9: but the ramifications of this war on the economy are
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 9: the things that they're actually talking about.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: I want to close by just saying my heart goes
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: out for Tulsa Gabbert. Her husband's really sick. I know
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: she's a friend of yours. Whatever people's political thoughts are
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: about that. What an awful situation.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 9: And it's truly awful, and I appreciate it, Hugh, and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 9: thank you for saying that. Look, the thing that I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 9: would just stress to everyone is I hope that they
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 9: will pray for Abraham Telsey's husband, who is a wonderful,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 9: wonderful man and built like an ox and as the
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  Speaker 9: last person in the world you would ever think would
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  Speaker 9: be diagnosed with an extremely rare form of cancer. And truly,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, I would just say Telsey has been despite
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: the press clippings around her on occasion, she has been
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  Speaker 9: a very loyal, you know, pursuer of the agenda Donald
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: Trump put her in that job to do. I do
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: think that it's going to be interesting who comes out
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 9: to replace her. She's staying on for another month in
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 9: order to ease that transition. You know, I'm sure that
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 9: there will be names that are floated by various factions.
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  Speaker 9: And look, I have my own thoughts on who that
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 9: might be, but I'll keep that. I'll keep that now,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: maybe right about it next week. But I really appreciate
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 9: your heartfelt thoughts and if I would encourage all your
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  Speaker 9: list just pray for her family.
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  Speaker 1: Because don't be evil. Don't be evil. The online stuff
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  Speaker 1: is just evil. Don't be evil. I just can't believe it. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: be good, Ben Dominic thank you. Have a great Memorial
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  Speaker 12: We all would love to see an agreement with the
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  Speaker 12: RUN in which the straits are open and then they
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  Speaker 12: abandon their nuclear ambitions and so forth their nuclear weapons ambitions.
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  Speaker 12: That's what we would all hope for, and that's what
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  Speaker 12: we're going to continue to work on, and that's what
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  Speaker 12: work is ongoing even as I speak to you now
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  Speaker 12: in that regard. But we also have to have a
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 12: plan B, and Plan B is what if Iran.
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  Speaker 11: Refuses to open the straits?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 12: What if Iran decides we refuse to open the straits,
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  Speaker 12: We're going to own the straits and we're going to
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  Speaker 12: charge tolls for it.
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  Speaker 11: At that point something has to be done about it.
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  Speaker 12: And I would argue that there are countries represented here
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 12: today that are more deeply impacted by this than even
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 12: the United States.
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  Speaker 11: Is so all I'm saying and have said, and I
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 11: think this has been reiterated by others.
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  Speaker 12: There are other countries that agree with me on this
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  Speaker 12: is that we have to start thinking about what do
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  Speaker 12: we do of a few weeks from now, Iran decides
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  Speaker 12: we don't care, We're going to keep the straits closed.
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  Speaker 12: We're going to sink any ship that doesn't listen to
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  Speaker 12: us or doesn't pay us.
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  Speaker 11: Then someone's going to have to do something about it.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 12: Okay, they're not just going to voluntarily reopen the straits
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 12: in that scenario, so we have to start thinking about it.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 11: I raised that point today. I got a lot of nods.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 12: I got a lot of people that came up to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 12: me afterwards and acknowledged it.
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  Speaker 11: But we don't have an announcement for you.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 12: Today in terms of something that's happening, I know there's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 12: a plan in place for what to do.
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  Speaker 11: With the shooting stops.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 12: That's what the French UK Initiative talks about when the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 12: conditions are set. Well, what they mean by where the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 12: conditions are set is when no one is shooting, but
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 12: we have to have a plan be for if someone
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 12: is shooting, then how do you reopen the streets?
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  Speaker 11: And so I made that point today.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 12: I don't know if that would be a NATO mission necessarily,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 12: but it would certainly be NATO countries that can contribute
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 12: to it.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: So that's Marco Ruby. I have more tape of the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Secretary of State at the NATO summit. Do you want
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: to let you know I'm standing by waiting for Mac Teasley.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Mac was the foundation director at the Eisenhower Foundation. Because
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: there's a movie coming out next Friday called Pressure, Brendan
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Fraser plays Ike. I'm very invested in this movie, not
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: just because they're sponsoring ads on the program, but because
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: my first job out of college was a researcher for
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: David Eisenhower's book, Eisenhower at War, and not many people
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: know the story of the run up to d day
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: pressure is going to tell that story. I'm very confident
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: with Mac Teasley, who is the president of the Ajenaer
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Foundation for a long time and a historian a Ike,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: I'm very very confident they will tell it correctly. There
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: are aspects such as the training disaster. If you're watching
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: on sale News channel, I just played a little bit
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: of the trailer for you. There was a training disaster.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I believe it cost nine thousand lives. As we trained
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: for the NATO invasion, they gave everyone pause. Then there
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: were meteorological reports that said go, don't go, go, don't go, go,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: don't go. Then there was loading the ships with people
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: are throwing up in the ships. You might remember the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: opening scene of saving Private Ryan. Then there's the famous
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: scene a Ike going to meet with I believe that
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Utter and first Airborne before they take off on their
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: most dangerous omissions. And the trouble is the Channel had
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: defeated many, many attempts to invade England. Was it going
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: to defeat the attempt for the Allies to invade Fortress
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Heroe Hilar had thrown up everything. There were two lines.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: For the Western Wall was at Germany, but the European
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Wall was all along the coast and oh, Mack joins me, Matt,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: how are you? And congratulations on making the rounds on
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: this How good is this movie going to be?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 10: I think it's going to be very successful.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 13: And I went in with the historian's view to see
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 13: whether it was how accurate it was, But I came
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 13: away convinced that the writers did their homework and the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 13: attention to the details and so forth, And so I think,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 13: I think and I love the name pressure because it's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 13: not just it wasn't just about the air pressure the weather.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 13: It was about the pressure on I the most important
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 13: decision he ever made in his life. Really, everything was
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 13: easy after this for him.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: So I began my post college career working for David
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Eisenhower on the book Eisenhower or as his research assistant.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't know any of this. Do you think a
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: lot of Do you think a lot of people know
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: about the TikTok about everything on I in our shoulders,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: all the different considerations. Do you think people know that story?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 10: No? I don't think they appreciate it.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 13: And it went, you know, his first his first day
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 13: in the Oval office as president, he said, he basically said,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 13: it's a continuing, lots of decisions and tough issues. It's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 13: a continuation of everything I've been doing since nineteen forty two.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 13: Another day at the office more or less, you know.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 13: But he's but yeah, he there's a reason he. I mean,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 13: he was only fifty three years old at the time
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 13: of D Day, but he looked like he was sixty.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 13: I mean, he'd he had where. Of course, he was
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 13: living on coffee and four packs of cigarettes a day too,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 13: so it was that wasn't very good. But just a
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 13: stress that he was under is totally amazing.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Now there's a supporting cast of people around him, all
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: of the various people, uh from Beadle Smith and on up?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Are they cast well?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Do you like how they are portrayed in the movie?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 13: You know, I'm looking for I saw the movie five
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 13: weeks ago, and I'm looking forward to I'm going to
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 13: see it again next week, and so I'm going to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 13: take a closer look at things because I I was
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 13: Captain Butcher his naval aid portraying. I mean, I needn't
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 13: was he in there too? Okay, I mean I need
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 13: to look at that more closely. But yeah, I think it,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 13: you know, I think it. I think I think Brendan
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 13: Fraser did a good job with Eisenhower the cadence of
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 13: his his his speaking, and he's a little heavier than
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  Speaker 13: I was, of course, but uh but still he showed
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  Speaker 13: the gravity of the situation and the pressure that he
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  Speaker 13: was under.
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  Speaker 10: And I think and I think I think the case
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  Speaker 10: summers b thing.
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  Speaker 13: My INTENDA was up on that one because I wanted
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  Speaker 13: it to be professional, and they did show that the relationship.
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  Speaker 10: Was was indeed professional.
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  Speaker 13: There was one little lapse where maybe they had a
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  Speaker 13: conversation about, oh, we've had our we've had a couple
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  Speaker 13: of moments or something like that. That was a reference
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  Speaker 13: to that at one point, But by enlarge it showed
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  Speaker 13: that she.
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  Speaker 10: Was just a she was.
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  Speaker 13: She was still driving him then and one of the
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  Speaker 13: things they were calling her lieutenant Summersby, and I thought, aha,
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  Speaker 13: she didn't you know she actually joined the US military
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  Speaker 13: in November November twentieth of forty four, but not yet
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  Speaker 13: and when she became an air fort I mean an
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  Speaker 13: army lieutenant in the US Army.
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  Speaker 1: So last question did they tell us in the movie,
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  Speaker 1: do you recall what it was that that Eisenhower witnessed
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  Speaker 1: the training accident and how many people died in the
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  Speaker 1: training accident for D Day? Was it nine thousand people died?
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  Speaker 10: No, No, it was only it was seven hundred and fifty.
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  Speaker 13: Okay, the first day of the first day of Normandy
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  Speaker 13: was two thousand.
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  Speaker 3: So but and.
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  Speaker 13: It was communications problem. We were ar turroarly deaths. A
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  Speaker 13: German and a German fast boat had snuck in and
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  Speaker 13: sunk to Lst. So a lot of our troops drowned
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  Speaker 13: in the water or had had the you know, the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 13: thermoe you know, died of therma hypothermia.
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  Speaker 10: So yeah, and Keith ask me.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk again next week. I'm looking forward to Pressure
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  Speaker 1: so much. It comes out on May twenty ninth. Theaters
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: across the United States. They work alike with people like
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Professor Teasley, who's a great historian, ran the Iddur forever,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Idner Foundation forever, and I'm really looking forward to seeing Pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mac, I'll be right back. American