Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / Jaguars Reporters: February 15

Transcript

Jaguars Reporters: February 15 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

0:01
Speaker 1: He's only gonna get stronger, and his arms only gonna
0:04
Speaker 1: get stronger. Trevor Lawrence is the guy, and he is
0:06
Speaker 1: he is the best fit of all the quarterbacks in
0:08
Speaker 1: this class for that offense. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters presented
0:13
Speaker 1: by t I a A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan,
0:17
Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan, and K. P. Schefer. Jaguars Reporters presented by
0:22
Speaker 1: t I a A Bank starts right now. Welcome to
0:27
Speaker 1: this edition of Jaguars Reporters. Brian Sexton along with Absolete Sullivan,
0:32
Speaker 1: John Osier and J. P. Shadrick here on a on
0:37
Speaker 1: a February day as we're getting close to things really
0:40
Speaker 1: starting Eat up, Hi, everybody. It's been a busy couple
0:44
Speaker 1: of days since we last talked, and the thing that
0:47
Speaker 1: stands out the most to me is is that the
0:50
Speaker 1: Jaguars are in the driver's seat and people are paying
0:54
Speaker 1: attention to them. I mean, this franchise is relevant again,
0:58
Speaker 1: and I think it's surprising because when you're one in fifteen,
1:01
Speaker 1: you generally fall off the face of the earth. But
1:04
Speaker 1: this team, in the position they're in now, people are interested.
1:07
Speaker 1: They're talking about us. Well, yeah, in both ways, right.
1:10
Speaker 1: I mean, there was some positive news and some not
1:12
Speaker 1: so positive news, considering on which sources you listen to
1:16
Speaker 1: over the weekend. And that's the way it goes. When
1:19
Speaker 1: when it's a big time NFL team that has the
1:22
Speaker 1: number one pick and a big name head coach and
1:25
Speaker 1: they go to the probe day of Trevor Lawrence, that's
1:28
Speaker 1: the good and then the Chris Doyle aftermath and fallout
1:31
Speaker 1: is that not so good? Obviously that all comes with
1:34
Speaker 1: the territory, I think, And hey, now it's trying to
1:38
Speaker 1: move forward. I think after everything that happened this past weekend, Yeah,
1:41
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be a problem. I've I've
1:43
Speaker 1: gotten some emails from people asking, well, you know, it
1:45
Speaker 1: was the Doyle thing, you know, uh, unrecoverable. You know,
1:51
Speaker 1: I don't see it that way. I think they'll, uh,
1:55
Speaker 1: you know, all of the momentum, the number one pick,
1:58
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, free agents, um, you know, I don't
2:02
Speaker 1: think the momentum going forward for this franchise has changed, uh,
2:08
Speaker 1: with any significance. I'm not sure how you guys feel
2:10
Speaker 1: about that. Look, they had to know when they hired
2:13
Speaker 1: him that there was going to be a conversation that
2:17
Speaker 1: they weren't. You can't cover that kind of stuff up
2:19
Speaker 1: and it came out immediately, um, and that they changed
2:24
Speaker 1: tack on that shows that they decided to listen, you know.
2:29
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it will move on quickly because
2:31
Speaker 1: people will say, oh, you know, I mean, stubbed your toe.
2:34
Speaker 1: Let's go. And I don't know that we'll talk about
2:37
Speaker 1: this much longer because overwhelming Trevor Lawrence story. You know,
2:42
Speaker 1: free agency is gonna open and it'll be overwhelming cap
2:44
Speaker 1: space Ashton. I just think we'll get past this one quickly.
2:48
Speaker 1: I did too. I think the statement speaks for itself.
2:51
Speaker 1: And it was a weekend where there was negative and
2:53
Speaker 1: positive news, like JP said, and I think the backlash,
2:56
Speaker 1: especially on social media and from the people that have
3:00
Speaker 1: and emailing and sending in notes the Jaguars. They easily
3:03
Speaker 1: could have said, you know what, this is the higher
3:05
Speaker 1: and it's already been made and this is the way
3:06
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. But that's not the case. So I
3:09
Speaker 1: think there has been positive change and and they listened
3:12
Speaker 1: to what fans wanted. Now we can move forward. Alright,
3:15
Speaker 1: let's get started on this Jaguars Reporters podcast with our
3:18
Speaker 1: Jaguars this week segment, and we'll start on the offensive
3:21
Speaker 1: side where James Slater, who was at Clemson who were
3:26
Speaker 1: the workout, asked Urban Meyer about the progress he's seeing
3:31
Speaker 1: from his offense in the early stages of his tenure here. Oh,
3:34
Speaker 1: it's all I think about, and uh, this is a
3:38
Speaker 1: transformatal decisions for the Jaguars. This is we all know
3:41
Speaker 1: that it's a quarterback sport and obviously in the NFL,
3:45
Speaker 1: but it's also when I was talking, we our offensive
3:48
Speaker 1: line is pretty good. You know, it's not blow up
3:50
Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, we've got some other areas we've
3:53
Speaker 1: gotta fix. So I have a vision of what it
3:55
Speaker 1: looks like for Schottenheimer and Bebbo. We've had those conversations,
3:59
Speaker 1: but it's going to be built around what we have
4:01
Speaker 1: and there's some good pieces there, but we've got to
4:03
Speaker 1: make it even better. Well, we're all excited to see
4:05
Speaker 1: you too. Will you bring together names like Meyer and
4:08
Speaker 1: Bevil and Schottenheimer and start thinking about how Trevor Lawrence
4:12
Speaker 1: fits into that, or how some of the other offensive
4:14
Speaker 1: weapons they can add in free agency fit into that.
4:17
Speaker 1: It's pretty excited to be a Jaguars fan, right now. Yeah,
4:22
Speaker 1: at some point in the next week or so or
4:24
Speaker 1: whatever the time frame is, I think all of us,
4:27
Speaker 1: one of us will talk to Darryl Bevil and some
4:29
Speaker 1: of the existing coaches, and I'm anxious to talk to
4:32
Speaker 1: Bevil about how he sees the offense because I'm not
4:36
Speaker 1: sure that this is the case where you can, you know,
4:38
Speaker 1: the thing that all reporters do in all media too,
4:41
Speaker 1: when a coordinator gets hired, you go back and look
4:43
Speaker 1: what he's done before. Well, I'm not sure in this
4:46
Speaker 1: case that necessarily going back and seeing what Bevil has
4:48
Speaker 1: done before is is going to give you a great
4:53
Speaker 1: blueprint for what he's gonna do now. Because they both
4:56
Speaker 1: said last week it's going to be adapting to what
4:58
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer wants to do. And I think what we
5:00
Speaker 1: may not know until O T A S or even
5:03
Speaker 1: preseason games is exactly how that's gonna look. Irvin Meyer
5:07
Speaker 1: has not necessarily had the same offense at every stopping college.
5:11
Speaker 1: We all sort of know some of the basics, but
5:14
Speaker 1: he changed so off from the highest state to Florida.
5:18
Speaker 1: He changed a lot when he had a different quarterback
5:20
Speaker 1: at the Ohio State. So how this scheme is gonna
5:22
Speaker 1: look I think it is very much TVD. I think
5:27
Speaker 1: that applies to offense and defense. The hard thing I
5:30
Speaker 1: have is that both coordinators have been saying that it
5:33
Speaker 1: all depends on the personnel and what players you have.
5:35
Speaker 1: And with eleven draft picks and over seventy three million
5:38
Speaker 1: dollars in cap spaces for agency, we have no idea
5:41
Speaker 1: what this roster's gonna look like and who they're going
5:43
Speaker 1: to keep. So it's it's difficult right now to say
5:45
Speaker 1: what either side of the ball is going to look
5:47
Speaker 1: like when it's so based on players and you don't
5:50
Speaker 1: know what half this team is right now. It's a miracle, John,
5:53
Speaker 1: they love the offensive line. It sounds like, said the
5:58
Speaker 1: other it's not a blow up offense, Fled. You've been
6:00
Speaker 1: saying it in your ozone almost every day, but said
6:05
Speaker 1: it last summer, Jake Gruden. Jaking said it last summer.
6:08
Speaker 1: You can this offensive line. And then of course we
6:09
Speaker 1: talked about it all season long. And then when urban
6:13
Speaker 1: Meyer comes out and says that, all of a sudden,
6:14
Speaker 1: people go, oh, maybe it's not right. You know what
6:18
Speaker 1: it might be, Okay, breaking news, well enough to get
6:22
Speaker 1: them started. You know, in time they're gonna have to
6:25
Speaker 1: do their own deal and and figure out some things
6:27
Speaker 1: with money in the interior. A lot of a lot
6:29
Speaker 1: of money going out there. They gotta work up, figure
6:31
Speaker 1: out what they're doing a left tackle. But I think
6:33
Speaker 1: to get them started, there are there have been worse
6:36
Speaker 1: offensive lines to start programs. We got a lot of
6:39
Speaker 1: time talking about go ahead. The ultimate clue on that
6:43
Speaker 1: was they kept warm. Yeah. I don't think you necessarily
6:47
Speaker 1: keep the offensive line coach, if you look at it
6:50
Speaker 1: and say the group with a disaster. I know there's
6:52
Speaker 1: different between players and coach, you know, but it all
6:56
Speaker 1: to me goes to they look at this, they sea
7:00
Speaker 1: war up. They see a functioning offensive line, and I
7:03
Speaker 1: think there's a school of thought is do we want
7:05
Speaker 1: to blow this up if we've got a functioning unit
7:09
Speaker 1: when we've got potentially a rookie quarterback coming in? You know,
7:13
Speaker 1: I think at all points today like the continuity and
7:16
Speaker 1: they feel safe for the most part putting a ricky
7:19
Speaker 1: quarterback behind this group. In this coach, you're also talking
7:22
Speaker 1: about an offensive line to pave the way for an
7:24
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agent to run for a thousand yards
7:28
Speaker 1: when everyone knew that if you stopped James Robinson. You
7:31
Speaker 1: essentially stopped the Jaguars in so the offensive line was
7:35
Speaker 1: more than fine. Okay, let's move on to the defense.
7:37
Speaker 1: This is the other question that comes up whenever you
7:39
Speaker 1: have a coaching change or a coordinator change, especially when
7:43
Speaker 1: you're talking about defense. Coach, what scheme are you're gonna run?
7:46
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be a three four or four three?
7:48
Speaker 1: Joe Colin met the media for the first time is
7:50
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defensive coordinator last week and weighed in with
7:53
Speaker 1: the answer, Well, we're still evaluating, you know, our current roster,
7:57
Speaker 1: and you know I've been involved with and fourteen years.
8:00
Speaker 1: Eight years in a four three scheme, we were multiple.
8:03
Speaker 1: In six years in a three four scheme were multiple.
8:06
Speaker 1: And it's all tailored to the personnel that you have.
8:09
Speaker 1: And I think in both schemes, you know you have
8:11
Speaker 1: flexibility to do both. Now, it's interesting, guys, because Joe
8:15
Speaker 1: has run both systems, and of course every team runs
8:17
Speaker 1: a variant of both systems. It's you know, when you
8:21
Speaker 1: put the linebacker on the strong side of the line
8:23
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and you got four men there, the one
8:26
Speaker 1: thing you know you have is you've got some rushbackers,
8:28
Speaker 1: guys who can play Caleb and Jason Um and Josh
8:32
Speaker 1: Allen who can work from a three four or work
8:34
Speaker 1: from a four three. The other side of the four
8:37
Speaker 1: three of the three four thing is you've got to
8:39
Speaker 1: have inside linebackers. You've got that. Miles Jack and Joe
8:43
Speaker 1: Schobert are two guys who can fill those roles inside.
8:47
Speaker 1: If you wanted to lean more towards a three four,
8:50
Speaker 1: you just think to get a big nose tackle. Yeah,
8:53
Speaker 1: and my guess is they're gonna lean toward a three four.
8:57
Speaker 1: I guess. My ultimate thing on this is always there
9:01
Speaker 1: has been such in the ozone mailbox. There has been
9:05
Speaker 1: question after question after question about the three four, and
9:08
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the Wizard came out from behind
9:13
Speaker 1: the curtain and handed Dorothy a three four, and all
9:15
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got a magic defense. That's that's
9:19
Speaker 1: the end all. If you've got really good players in
9:22
Speaker 1: a four three, you know what happens. You wind up
9:26
Speaker 1: being second the NFL in total defense and dudous in
9:28
Speaker 1: seventeen and you almost go to the Super Bowl. If
9:30
Speaker 1: you've got players who aren't that good and aren't playing fast,
9:33
Speaker 1: you're not very good. Basically the same things to a
9:37
Speaker 1: three four. Guys, if you've got good players in it
9:40
Speaker 1: and they're playing hard and they're playing fast. I know
9:43
Speaker 1: that's Urban's big thing on defense, play fast. If you've
9:46
Speaker 1: got good players doing that, you're gonna be okay if
9:48
Speaker 1: you run on one six. I like Joe Collins on
9:52
Speaker 1: the other day, right, I mean, it's yeah, we have
9:55
Speaker 1: history in both, but it's so early to sidure right,
9:58
Speaker 1: these only a few weeks into the role. They haven't
10:01
Speaker 1: figured out what they're doing in free agency and all
10:03
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yet you know what they are. They're multiple
10:05
Speaker 1: That's what he said, Oh yeah, we can do all
10:07
Speaker 1: this stuff. Then everything I caught myself bummed out. I
10:16
Speaker 1: was tweeting us like, he's not going to give us
10:17
Speaker 1: an answer, And then I thought to myself, why would
10:20
Speaker 1: he give us an answer. It's February, Schlynn, chill out.
10:23
Speaker 1: You don't even know what players you have. Why is
10:25
Speaker 1: he gonna say it right now? Yeah? Well, some of
10:28
Speaker 1: the old salts, uh, you know, we remember the three
10:31
Speaker 1: four when there weren't many teams that ran it. You know,
10:33
Speaker 1: there weren't even multiple defenses. You know, back in the
10:36
Speaker 1: early days of the Jaguars and John you recalled this,
10:39
Speaker 1: you were either four three or three four. There weren't
10:41
Speaker 1: these hybrid sorts of schemes. And Pittsburgh, of course, was
10:45
Speaker 1: the model of that, you know, with the Greg Lloyd
10:47
Speaker 1: and Kevin Green and Chat Brown and everybody wanted to
10:50
Speaker 1: be like Pittsburgh. But to your point, it doesn't matter
10:54
Speaker 1: the scheme. You want Pittsburgh's players. You wanted those guys.
10:59
Speaker 1: If you could old Jason Guilding in off the bench,
11:03
Speaker 1: you were in great shape. So who's your Jason Guild
11:06
Speaker 1: and you're Greg Lloyd To the point, the Jaguars have
11:09
Speaker 1: a nice stable of young guys that look like they
11:13
Speaker 1: can fit that if that's what they choose to do
11:16
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football. Coming up this
11:18
Speaker 1: fault all right onto here for Trevor Lawrence, who obviously
11:22
Speaker 1: was the star of the show, and he didn't need
11:24
Speaker 1: to do this. I mean, he he could have just said,
11:28
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have shoulder surgery. You all have a couple
11:31
Speaker 1: of years of tape. I'm a three year starter. I
11:33
Speaker 1: won a national championship. You know you'll see me when
11:35
Speaker 1: I get there. But he didn't, and his answer was
11:40
Speaker 1: telling not of the character of person he is, but
11:43
Speaker 1: the kind of leader he is, I thought, And that's
11:46
Speaker 1: really when you're going with the number one overall quarterback
11:48
Speaker 1: and you're gonna pay him the kind of money and
11:50
Speaker 1: invest in him, you need this kind of a leader.
11:53
Speaker 1: Like I was just telling someone, just wanted to be
11:55
Speaker 1: like everybody else, you know, go through this process the
11:57
Speaker 1: right way, and it's probably this is important for me
11:59
Speaker 1: to do. Give all the teams a chance to see
12:01
Speaker 1: me throw and something that you know, growing up you
12:04
Speaker 1: kind of dream about having your pro day and everything
12:06
Speaker 1: is going normal. Then like I said, over their life
12:08
Speaker 1: happened sometimes and things get switched up. So just showing
12:11
Speaker 1: that I can adapt and adjust, prepare short notice. Um,
12:15
Speaker 1: and still you know, put on a pretty good day,
12:17
Speaker 1: you know obviously, and how these things go, you wish
12:19
Speaker 1: you had a few throwers back, but overall, um, I
12:21
Speaker 1: thought it was a good day. But yeah, I just
12:23
Speaker 1: wanted to do the process the right away, and I
12:25
Speaker 1: thought that was important for us to to still throw
12:27
Speaker 1: and to do that. Guys, I mean, you don't have
12:29
Speaker 1: to study leadership. I do, but you don't have to
12:31
Speaker 1: understand that what you want in a leader is someone
12:34
Speaker 1: who will get down and dirty with the people who
12:37
Speaker 1: are following him, who will do it, who will show
12:40
Speaker 1: them how to do it and then keep doing it.
12:43
Speaker 1: That is true leadership. And this guy looks like I mean,
12:47
Speaker 1: that's that's what makes him great, is that he's not
12:50
Speaker 1: only a phenomenal physical specimen, but a guy with all
12:53
Speaker 1: the intangibles you could possibly want. Yeah, and I thought
12:57
Speaker 1: it was intriguing. Uh. James later also reported that I
13:02
Speaker 1: don't know if it was Urban's idea for the pro
13:05
Speaker 1: day to take place, but he spoke to Lawrence beforehand
13:09
Speaker 1: about it, and in Urban's quote about the process, he
13:14
Speaker 1: basically was talking to Lawrence. They found out about the
13:18
Speaker 1: laborum and Urban sort of said, well, you could either
13:21
Speaker 1: not have it, you could delay it. Uh. And one
13:25
Speaker 1: of the things that Urban said that Trevor said was well,
13:28
Speaker 1: I'm not not gonna throw and the story went he
13:32
Speaker 1: just kind of picked up the football, went out and through.
13:35
Speaker 1: Most of these guys trained for two months for this event.
13:39
Speaker 1: Lawrence sort of did it as close as you can
13:42
Speaker 1: to being unprepared for one of these things. He just
13:45
Speaker 1: went out and through and Urban sounded very impressed that
13:48
Speaker 1: he was willing to do that confident, loves going out there,
13:52
Speaker 1: knows it was important. It isn't really worried that he
13:57
Speaker 1: may not quite look great on this one. Play everything
14:01
Speaker 1: that Urban was quoted as saying about Trevor on this
14:06
Speaker 1: it certainly sounds like he loves the kids makeup and
14:08
Speaker 1: I thought that was probably the most significant part of Friday.
14:11
Speaker 1: It was a big passing of a test to see,
14:14
Speaker 1: you know what, I will go compete anytime anywhere, right.
14:17
Speaker 1: I mean, if it was Urban saying that to him,
14:21
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Urban like testing like
14:23
Speaker 1: in that, you know, straight straightforward of a manner. But hey,
14:26
Speaker 1: he might have passed the test, okay, and guess what
14:30
Speaker 1: the judge of that test is standing ten yards in
14:34
Speaker 1: front of you the entire drill on the field. I
14:37
Speaker 1: think that was a message from Urban Meyer as well.
14:39
Speaker 1: That wasn't just by accident. He was standing in the
14:41
Speaker 1: middle of the field the entire practice, while the entire
14:44
Speaker 1: NFL is on the sideline out of the way. Thanks
14:47
Speaker 1: for coming, enjoy the s O Club, take your private
14:50
Speaker 1: jet back home. This guy's coming to Jacksonville. That's my opinion.
14:54
Speaker 1: But I think it was Urban testing him to see
14:56
Speaker 1: if if he would just step up and yeah, not
15:00
Speaker 1: throw forty times? Who knows? Who cares? Who the receivers are.
15:03
Speaker 1: I don't know who these guys are. There like two
15:05
Speaker 1: or three guys there. The normal pro day, there's eight
15:07
Speaker 1: nine different there's a bunch of different guys available. Hey,
15:10
Speaker 1: who's on campus today? Who wants to run some routes
15:13
Speaker 1: for me? I'm gonna get it to you catch as
15:15
Speaker 1: many as you can. And that's what they did, and
15:18
Speaker 1: I think he passed that that initial test with flying colors. Yeah,
15:22
Speaker 1: he was saying on ESPN the broadcast they get him
15:25
Speaker 1: after the Pro day, and he was saying, normally you
15:26
Speaker 1: would have seven to eight weeks to prepare for this,
15:29
Speaker 1: and you would know who your receivers are, you would
15:31
Speaker 1: know what day it is. He said, he only had
15:33
Speaker 1: two weeks to prepare for this Pro day, but he
15:35
Speaker 1: wanted to be like everyone else, just overall incredibly confident
15:38
Speaker 1: in your ability. It doesn't matter what day I do it.
15:40
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it done. And the message that that's
15:43
Speaker 1: me is what JP said. Where urban Meyer were standing
15:45
Speaker 1: at the depth of where a linebacker, maybe even a
15:47
Speaker 1: defensive tackle would be, and that was y'all can take
15:50
Speaker 1: a look, but this is mine. Have fun, have fun
15:53
Speaker 1: taking a look, but you can't have it all right.
15:57
Speaker 1: And that's Jaguars this week. And as we roll along
16:00
Speaker 1: here on the Jaguars Reporters podcast, Ryan Sexton, Ashley's Elevant,
16:04
Speaker 1: j Shadrick, and John Osier, we come to a segment
16:09
Speaker 1: we called big Things, where everybody throws a topic out
16:12
Speaker 1: there and we comment on some of the bigger things
16:14
Speaker 1: around the Jaguars and the NFL. And John will start
16:17
Speaker 1: with you, and you're talking about the second year cornerback
16:20
Speaker 1: to b C. J. Henderson. And I don't know how
16:23
Speaker 1: Lot's popular was, as he probably could have chosen this
16:25
Speaker 1: topic to any point this off season, but my point
16:29
Speaker 1: was C. J. Henderson, I think maybe the most important
16:33
Speaker 1: young unknown on this team. He might be the most
16:38
Speaker 1: important player to see how he is next season, because
16:42
Speaker 1: if he's good, if the second year cornerback plays like
16:46
Speaker 1: a top ten pick, then all of a sudden, I
16:49
Speaker 1: think you've got something to build around in the secondary.
16:52
Speaker 1: You've got your cornerstone piece of the secondary and you
16:55
Speaker 1: can fill in around that if he's not. If he's
16:58
Speaker 1: not a top ten pick, now you're looking at rebuilding
17:01
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and that means draft capital, that means uncertainty,
17:06
Speaker 1: that means spending free agent dollars. I'm confident that Josh
17:10
Speaker 1: Allen is going to be good. I'm confident that John Taylor,
17:12
Speaker 1: James Robinson, d J Chark, Miles Jack. I think they've
17:16
Speaker 1: got pieces at every other level of their team. Trevor Lawrence.
17:20
Speaker 1: I don't know about the secondary because I haven't seen
17:23
Speaker 1: enough to cej to know what he is. So to me,
17:26
Speaker 1: if he's top ten corner guy, top ten corner is
17:29
Speaker 1: supposed to be all Pro. If he's that, then I
17:32
Speaker 1: think they're really good shape with their roster. If he's not,
17:35
Speaker 1: I wonder about the secondary. It's very fair. We have
17:40
Speaker 1: no idea what he is, Like his best game was
17:42
Speaker 1: his first game and then after that you really have
17:44
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks around him. But you saw
17:46
Speaker 1: him a training camp and you saw great things. But
17:48
Speaker 1: you need to see a lot more out of him
17:49
Speaker 1: to solidify and be confident that he is a piece
17:52
Speaker 1: you can build around. If he's that player he was
17:55
Speaker 1: in Week one, then yeah, he's a Pro Bowl type player.
17:59
Speaker 1: Let's just get to the season with him, Like, get
18:01
Speaker 1: through sixteen or fourteen, like, get through the bulk of
18:05
Speaker 1: a season first. He was not able to do that,
18:08
Speaker 1: and can can he carry that load first and then
18:12
Speaker 1: see what kind of performance you can have on top
18:14
Speaker 1: of that, You know, I also think it's worth noting
18:16
Speaker 1: they really have built a strong defensive staff. All the
18:18
Speaker 1: odd conversation goes to Charlie Strong assistant head coach, and
18:22
Speaker 1: to um to Joe Colin, But they brought in Bob Sutton,
18:26
Speaker 1: a long time defensive coordinator in the NFL, most recently
18:29
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid as a coordinator in Kansas City, has
18:33
Speaker 1: been a head coach on the college level. Bob is
18:36
Speaker 1: well known, well known for his understanding and his knowledge
18:40
Speaker 1: of coverage schemes. So now you talk about a coach
18:43
Speaker 1: that's working hand in hand with the rest of the staff,
18:46
Speaker 1: and it's a good staff. It gives a young guy
18:50
Speaker 1: like c. J. Henderson a real chance to have a
18:52
Speaker 1: guy like Bob Sutton who is trying to work and
18:54
Speaker 1: devise the defense around him. Alright, big thing number two, Ashlyn,
18:59
Speaker 1: you're talking about offensive tackle. We were just mentioning earlier.
19:02
Speaker 1: You know, the offensive line looks like it's a solid group.
19:05
Speaker 1: It's not a blow up group. In the words of
19:07
Speaker 1: the head coach, you've got a thought. Yes, I'm gonna
19:09
Speaker 1: throw some drama into it. Why not Ravens offensive tackle
19:14
Speaker 1: was left tackle was right tackle. Orlando Brown wants to
19:17
Speaker 1: be traded from Baltimore, and he only wants to go
19:19
Speaker 1: to a team that will play him at left tackle.
19:21
Speaker 1: He went in for an injury, played well, but Baltimore said, alright,
19:25
Speaker 1: our guys back, so you're gonna go back to right tackle.
19:27
Speaker 1: He said no, no, no, no no. I want to
19:29
Speaker 1: be traded. And I respect this decision because the difference
19:33
Speaker 1: for left tackle to right tackle, salary wise, is huge.
19:37
Speaker 1: The highest paid left tackle, it's a five million dollar
19:40
Speaker 1: a year difference when you go to right tackle in
19:44
Speaker 1: a way that you don't want to go subtracting. So
19:46
Speaker 1: I get what he wants to do this, and I
19:49
Speaker 1: think the Jaguar should look at it. I think you
19:51
Speaker 1: have to first figure out what you want to do
19:52
Speaker 1: with Cam Robinson. But this is intriguing because this is
19:55
Speaker 1: a player that went into left tackle and and made
19:58
Speaker 1: some noise and um has some versatility. They're also being
20:01
Speaker 1: able to play right tackle. So I think you looked
20:04
Speaker 1: at it. Why not, but first you have to figure
20:05
Speaker 1: out what you want to do with the guy that's there. Well,
20:07
Speaker 1: can the crotch of the old man go first? Here?
20:09
Speaker 1: You know, I'm so tired of the forcing out after
20:16
Speaker 1: players sign a contract. And I'm not saying that none
20:19
Speaker 1: of these players ever have gripes, but I'm just tired.
20:24
Speaker 1: The old man is tired of the headlines along these lines.
20:29
Speaker 1: I get what it is. I'm all for paying players.
20:32
Speaker 1: I think players should make every drop of money that
20:35
Speaker 1: they possibly can, but I am I am tired of
20:39
Speaker 1: the forcing out story that is increasingly a thing in
20:42
Speaker 1: the NFL. I also wonder, I you know, I know
20:47
Speaker 1: this guy played well at left tackle in the Ravens scheme.
20:50
Speaker 1: I'll defer to Bucky Brooks, who told JP and I
20:52
Speaker 1: this on a podcast couple weeks ago. The Ravens scheme
20:56
Speaker 1: is different than a lot of offensive schemes. It's run centric,
20:59
Speaker 1: it's not dropped seventh step drop protect all the time.
21:05
Speaker 1: You know, is he a left tackle? Elite money left tackle?
21:09
Speaker 1: Was Bucky's point. Is he top of the line that
21:11
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay and give up draft capital
21:14
Speaker 1: to get him? That would be the concern you would
21:17
Speaker 1: have going after Orlando Brown and how does Warhop how
21:21
Speaker 1: do these guys feel about Cam. I think that's the
21:23
Speaker 1: big unanswered question that I'll talk about later in the show. Yeah,
21:26
Speaker 1: I mean the Jaguars and everybody around the organization need
21:31
Speaker 1: to take control of this offseason. On this offseason. Now,
21:35
Speaker 1: we've won some off seasons in the past around here,
21:37
Speaker 1: I get that, but this is going to be unlike
21:40
Speaker 1: any offseason we've had, at least since we've covered the team.
21:43
Speaker 1: With the new head coach and the staff coming in,
21:46
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick another first rounder. That's a
21:49
Speaker 1: lot going on in this offseason and all the free
21:52
Speaker 1: agent money to go with it. So I think big,
21:54
Speaker 1: ride the wave. No no idea name or salary should
21:58
Speaker 1: be out of bounds. If you say ink Orlando Brown's
22:01
Speaker 1: the guy, Okay, well you've got the money to go
22:04
Speaker 1: do it and go make that decision. And as a
22:08
Speaker 1: fan as a supporter, I'm not gonna tell you how
22:11
Speaker 1: to think. But no idea is too crazy. If all
22:15
Speaker 1: of a sudden you think that this is not what
22:18
Speaker 1: I think. But if all of a sudden you think
22:20
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is the answer, this will be the offseason
22:23
Speaker 1: to go get the guy like that. You know it
22:25
Speaker 1: may not be the right answer, but just think big.
22:28
Speaker 1: Let the decision makers make those decisions the right way.
22:32
Speaker 1: Nothing is out of bounds this year. And for the record,
22:36
Speaker 1: I also am going to force myself out and play
22:38
Speaker 1: left tackle. I'm playing left tackle. Well, you'd make five
22:41
Speaker 1: million more dollars a year, so time the young millennial,
22:44
Speaker 1: and I say, go get your money. Take that, John
22:47
Speaker 1: old Man, get off my launch line. All right, A
22:52
Speaker 1: strong strong point. Uh. And you know, for Meyer who
22:57
Speaker 1: talked about JP, the perfect situation to bring him back
23:00
Speaker 1: into coaching. That's it. I mean, you've got an owner
23:02
Speaker 1: who who's naturally predisposed to being aggressive. He likes to
23:07
Speaker 1: make a splash, and not just a splash, but the
23:10
Speaker 1: largest video boards in the world, and not just a hotel,
23:13
Speaker 1: but the four seasons. Right, So in anything that he does,
23:17
Speaker 1: he wants to go big. So you got the first
23:19
Speaker 1: pick and all the draft everything we've talked about. Um, So,
23:23
Speaker 1: I mean I have every sense that's what they're gonna do. Um.
23:26
Speaker 1: You know, it used to be you talked about, you know,
23:28
Speaker 1: guarding the cap and the draft picks and the resources,
23:33
Speaker 1: and you know, you go from one and fifteen to
23:35
Speaker 1: you know, five and ten, five and eleven and six
23:38
Speaker 1: and ten, and then the next year, you know, you
23:40
Speaker 1: make your playoff running. You build it slowly. I don't
23:43
Speaker 1: see the sense that they're looking at it in the
23:44
Speaker 1: old paradigm anymore. They can win. I think they think
23:47
Speaker 1: they can win faster than a lot of people think
23:49
Speaker 1: they can win in today's NFL, with all the methods
23:51
Speaker 1: that are available to you. Why not think that way?
23:53
Speaker 1: I suppose does he better win in the years that
23:56
Speaker 1: you have because you might not have many years after that?
23:59
Speaker 1: The soil is here, so why not when this it'll
24:04
Speaker 1: be tougher then? But why not then? Why waste a
24:07
Speaker 1: year building to do all you can to try to
24:10
Speaker 1: get it right now? John? When we first got started
24:12
Speaker 1: with this thing, Tom Coffin always used to talk about you,
24:15
Speaker 1: and he was never a patient coach. But understanding the
24:18
Speaker 1: stages of building a thing, you know, uh, four and twelve,
24:21
Speaker 1: seven and nine tenants cks right, and you had to
24:24
Speaker 1: be patient and understand the curb for a football team
24:27
Speaker 1: and what JP is essentially saying, and we've seen if
24:30
Speaker 1: you have the right quarterback, you can flatten the curve Yeah,
24:34
Speaker 1: I'm not anticipating that because I think there are things
24:39
Speaker 1: depth wise, and I think some of what Urban is
24:43
Speaker 1: teaching will automatically take time because it's going to be
24:47
Speaker 1: a culture change. But if it all clicks, then there's
24:51
Speaker 1: no reason you can't get a lot better really fast
24:53
Speaker 1: because you should have a much higher level from the
24:58
Speaker 1: main position, which is quarterback. So that's gonna get you
25:01
Speaker 1: a long way. All right, here's my big thing. I'll
25:03
Speaker 1: throw it at you real quick, and John, it kind
25:05
Speaker 1: of plays into what you were talking about. Uh, someone
25:08
Speaker 1: has to say no to the Deshaun Watson's and and
25:11
Speaker 1: last week the Russell Wilson thing. You know, Um, when
25:15
Speaker 1: a quarterback signs that massive contract and what did he getting?
25:18
Speaker 1: Four years, a hundred and fifty million dollars. You're not
25:21
Speaker 1: just a quarterback. You're the cornerstone and you're getting a
25:25
Speaker 1: level of financial security that that very very few human
25:29
Speaker 1: beings ever get. The trade off there is that the
25:32
Speaker 1: team could build around you. They're getting quarterback security, you're
25:36
Speaker 1: getting financial security. You can't just take your ball and
25:39
Speaker 1: go home when you decide you don't like things. You
25:42
Speaker 1: can't have it both ways. You can't have both professional
25:46
Speaker 1: flexibility and financial security. If you're a quarterback. Now, the
25:51
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown thing, it's kind of like the Jalen Ramsey thing.
25:54
Speaker 1: Those positions are important. There are two of the five
25:56
Speaker 1: premium positions, but not like quarterback. And and I didn't
26:00
Speaker 1: like Watson's young his agents, David Molghetta. We know what
26:04
Speaker 1: Molghetta's game plan is. He tries to force the issue,
26:07
Speaker 1: and it worked with Jalen, so why wouldn't he think
26:09
Speaker 1: he could try the same thing with a franchise that's
26:12
Speaker 1: in disarray. Um, but it's not the same thing for
26:15
Speaker 1: the quarterback. It's just not And it's not good for
26:18
Speaker 1: the league to have these franchise quarterbacks hop scotching around.
26:22
Speaker 1: You want franchise stability. You want every franchise to find
26:26
Speaker 1: their quarterback, have their guy, and be able to compete
26:29
Speaker 1: weekend and week out. You don't want Russell Wilson playing
26:32
Speaker 1: in l A one year and two years later playing
26:35
Speaker 1: in Washington. You want Russell Wilson playing for the Seattle Seahawks.
26:39
Speaker 1: I get a guy like Tom Brady the end of
26:40
Speaker 1: his career, but for the main years of his career,
26:43
Speaker 1: you want Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. You don't want
26:46
Speaker 1: him shifting going to Houston. So it's better for the league,
26:49
Speaker 1: it's better for the franchises, and financially, it's better for
26:52
Speaker 1: the players. To just dig in a little bit and
26:55
Speaker 1: understand you're part of the program. Now, you're not just
26:58
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Spoken like a true old man. But you
27:06
Speaker 1: don't agree that that that's so critical. You know you're
27:11
Speaker 1: gonna build, and you're gonna go draft and spend free
27:13
Speaker 1: agent dollars around these guys. You you can't have those guys.
27:17
Speaker 1: I can handle it from some of the others, though
27:18
Speaker 1: I didn't like the way Jalen did it. But those quarterbacks,
27:22
Speaker 1: you gotta stay put. You gotta understand the game the
27:24
Speaker 1: way that he's played in the bordroom and by the
27:27
Speaker 1: way the trade off there is. If you're going to
27:30
Speaker 1: do that, maybe you say that Shawn, Hey, come in
27:32
Speaker 1: real quick. What do you like what What did you
27:33
Speaker 1: like about Bill O'Brien, What didn't you like about it?
27:36
Speaker 1: What do you like about the kind of head coach?
27:37
Speaker 1: I mean, what what would work for this team? You
27:39
Speaker 1: have your thumb on the heartbeat of the team. You know,
27:42
Speaker 1: take a little bit of input. You're not gonna make
27:44
Speaker 1: the decision. We're not promising you who we're going to get,
27:46
Speaker 1: but we'll listen to you because you're you're like a
27:49
Speaker 1: coach in the sense that you're very very important. UM
27:54
Speaker 1: and I do a little bit more of that again,
27:56
Speaker 1: not making the decision, but tell us what you want.
27:59
Speaker 1: I hope that's not on because it seems like there
28:01
Speaker 1: is a lot of disarray there, hence what he wants
28:03
Speaker 1: to leave. So hopefully for his sake, those conversations they're
28:06
Speaker 1: being had. I actually prefer Houston struggling. I appreciate it,
28:15
Speaker 1: embrace the petty it does for a long time. Guess what.
28:20
Speaker 1: It's a two way street though. Yeah. Well, and and
28:22
Speaker 1: we can talk about the ad nausea. But if the
28:24
Speaker 1: Colts still find a quarterback, they might struggle a bit too.
28:27
Speaker 1: There might be an opening here in this UH in
28:29
Speaker 1: this a f C South, But let's go on to
28:32
Speaker 1: UH to everyone asks, which you know, formerly and in
28:36
Speaker 1: drag time is known as Ashlyn asks. But in this
28:39
Speaker 1: way we bring a question. This week, Ashlyn is putting
28:43
Speaker 1: her thirty second timer on it. I'll started out, okay,
28:47
Speaker 1: and it should the Jaguars just get on with him
28:50
Speaker 1: and say we are taking Trevor Lawrence because the team
28:54
Speaker 1: of the number one pick, you can go ahead and
28:56
Speaker 1: make the pick now and negotiate. Now. We saw it
28:58
Speaker 1: in two thousand six with Mario Williams and the running
29:03
Speaker 1: back from the USC, Reggie um Um yeah, Reggie Bush. Right.
29:09
Speaker 1: They were negotiating with both of them and they got
29:11
Speaker 1: a contract deal done. They said, all right, we're taking
29:13
Speaker 1: Mark Williams, the pass rusher from North Carolina State. So
29:15
Speaker 1: should the drag Wars just send a press release now?
29:17
Speaker 1: Drag Wars announced on April nine they will take Trevor
29:22
Speaker 1: Lawrence and just get rid of all the drama. Thirty
29:24
Speaker 1: seconds JP, go for it. Uh No, not right now.
29:27
Speaker 1: They should go through the due diligence of the other
29:30
Speaker 1: top quarterbacks. Go to the Ohio State Pro Day. Look
29:33
Speaker 1: at Justin Fields, go to b y U if you
29:35
Speaker 1: want for the heckup it, look at Zach Wilson. Then
29:38
Speaker 1: after that say we're taking Trevor Lawrence. But no, they
29:42
Speaker 1: should not do it right now. John didn't. Didn't they
29:45
Speaker 1: essentially do that when urban Meyer told Jane Slater that
29:50
Speaker 1: he was on the phone and told Trevor how he
29:53
Speaker 1: should do his prodect, you would say, does account for
29:56
Speaker 1: my thirty seconds? Hurry up? Okay, Uh, you would think
30:01
Speaker 1: it does. Although what I don't know, was there a
30:03
Speaker 1: FaceTime call or they looked justin fields in I don't know,
30:07
Speaker 1: you know, so maybe they were all talking, so who knows.
30:11
Speaker 1: I don't think they should yet. I think they should
30:13
Speaker 1: wait until they look at the two pro days, the
30:15
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks they're looking for. And I think that's what
30:17
Speaker 1: they will do, because in the NFL, you don't do
30:20
Speaker 1: anything until you have to. Urban Meyer had his keys
30:23
Speaker 1: in his hand. He was on the starting line with
30:25
Speaker 1: his brand new race car Trevor Lawrence last week. Uh
30:28
Speaker 1: should they just go ahead and start the engine and
30:30
Speaker 1: let everybody know this is their car? It was a
30:33
Speaker 1: test drive. But no, because they don't have to. They
30:35
Speaker 1: don't care what we think, they don't care what America thinks.
30:38
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it the way they want to do it.
30:39
Speaker 1: And like John said, they don't have to. And I
30:41
Speaker 1: guarantee that they're gonna be at Ohio States Pro Day
30:44
Speaker 1: and Erman Matter will be standing where he was standing
30:46
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence. Just to throw some drama into the mix,
30:49
Speaker 1: and then we're all gonna come back on this podcast
30:51
Speaker 1: and say why was he standing so close and just
30:54
Speaker 1: to have some fun with it. He's not going to
30:56
Speaker 1: do that, all right, there's my question, JP e'uroupe Matt
31:00
Speaker 1: Ashlyn Wins, by the way, because that's the most accurate
31:04
Speaker 1: statement we've heard in all these podcasts we've done. They
31:07
Speaker 1: don't care what we think, they don't care what America things.
31:10
Speaker 1: They're gonna do what they want to do and how
31:11
Speaker 1: they want to do it. Like that, before you go
31:14
Speaker 1: to your question, the reason why I would do it
31:15
Speaker 1: because I would have fun with it, right And I look,
31:19
Speaker 1: if I can do that, if I'm telling the world,
31:21
Speaker 1: all right, here's our playbook, treas, here's what we're working
31:23
Speaker 1: on for you right. Oh, by the way, send the
31:25
Speaker 1: owners plane and uh, let's go to Grease and hang
31:28
Speaker 1: out on the boat for a couple of days and
31:29
Speaker 1: get to know each other a little bit, you know.
31:31
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd start engaging in that relationship right away
31:34
Speaker 1: and letting it be known. Hey, everyone else, you can
31:36
Speaker 1: start working on number two. Number one is here. I
31:39
Speaker 1: want my mindset, my staff mindset, and the quarterbacks mindset
31:43
Speaker 1: all to be on Jacksonville. I think there's value in that,
31:46
Speaker 1: but I understand why you will wouldn't. Okay, JP, You're
31:50
Speaker 1: up next. Here's mine. It's college heavy. After Clemson put
31:53
Speaker 1: out all those deep ball highlights the other day on
31:56
Speaker 1: social media, and then we saw Trevor Lawrence do his
31:59
Speaker 1: thing and his person pro day. What is the best
32:01
Speaker 1: play or player or combo of both that you saw
32:05
Speaker 1: in college football this year? Ashland, start us off. You're
32:09
Speaker 1: gonna be so surprised. I'm going Kyle Pitt's tight end
32:13
Speaker 1: Florida uncoverable. This is a mismatch nightmare. Zero drops on
32:18
Speaker 1: sixty five targets. You're gonna have to trade up to
32:20
Speaker 1: go get him. Daniel Jeremiah has him mock draft right now,
32:24
Speaker 1: twelve to the Niners. But this tight end position has
32:27
Speaker 1: been such a disarray for so many years. Go get
32:30
Speaker 1: a guy that has proven to do it at the
32:32
Speaker 1: college level. Trade up form, you gotta love and picks
32:35
Speaker 1: make it happen. You can line up anywhere. I like it, John,
32:38
Speaker 1: what do you got? Well? I guess I've gotta go
32:42
Speaker 1: with anybody from Alabama because they had all the good
32:44
Speaker 1: players this year. Um, you know the wide receiver Davante
32:49
Speaker 1: Smith I mean was unbelievable in the times I saw him.
32:52
Speaker 1: I don't follow the college game incredibly closely where I
32:56
Speaker 1: don't want a hundred programs, but to me, his playing
33:00
Speaker 1: the National champions the game is like a video game.
33:03
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. I don't quite know
33:04
Speaker 1: how that translates to the NFL and a couple of
33:07
Speaker 1: receivers who were probably translate over him, but he was
33:10
Speaker 1: also good. What do you got? I was gonna go
33:14
Speaker 1: to Vonte Smith because anytime I saw him on the field,
33:17
Speaker 1: I thought I was watching Marvin Harrison, you know, I mean,
33:20
Speaker 1: the slender receiver that no one could cover. Uh And
33:24
Speaker 1: and pitch is a good call, um, Trevor Lawrence. I mean,
33:28
Speaker 1: anytime he had the ball in his hands and I
33:30
Speaker 1: wanted to see it. I'll go with the running back
33:32
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame just to be different. Uh And I
33:34
Speaker 1: don't think he's coming out to be a pro this year.
33:36
Speaker 1: But but what you think was a sophomore, um, I
33:39
Speaker 1: thought he was really interesting. You know, about about a
33:41
Speaker 1: five eleven guy two ten pounds. Um. I just remember thinking,
33:46
Speaker 1: you know, this is a guy with a great nose
33:47
Speaker 1: for the ball. That's it. Your time's up. The correct
33:51
Speaker 1: answer is not j Harris, Alabama running back who put
33:56
Speaker 1: yards twenty six rushing touchdowns this year four more through
34:01
Speaker 1: the year. But the most exciting play was in the
34:04
Speaker 1: semifinal game against Notre Dame when he hurtled over the
34:08
Speaker 1: man and then ran for another thirty yards down the field.
34:11
Speaker 1: He's heard all over guys before, but that one just
34:15
Speaker 1: blew my mind. That was the play of the year
34:16
Speaker 1: in my opinion, in college football. It told you everything
34:21
Speaker 1: that you needed to know about what Alabama had done
34:23
Speaker 1: that year. Fair enough, All right, Ashley, how about you? Alright,
34:28
Speaker 1: here's something for you. We were talking about defensive alignments.
34:31
Speaker 1: What are they gonna run at three four or four three?
34:34
Speaker 1: How will Joe Schobert adapt if it is a three
34:37
Speaker 1: four because fun fact, he's never played in that system before.
34:40
Speaker 1: He played enough four to five in Cleveland. Joe Schobert's
34:45
Speaker 1: big free agent last year. How will he adapt if
34:47
Speaker 1: they do end up changing it, John, You'll be fine.
34:52
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's an ideal three four insidelinebacker, um,
34:57
Speaker 1: but I think if you're playing it'll be he and
35:00
Speaker 1: Miles Jack inside, and I think he'll be fine. I
35:04
Speaker 1: think overall, you would love to have a touch more
35:07
Speaker 1: stoutness in there. Three or four inside is a little
35:11
Speaker 1: less side to side, and you don't have to have
35:14
Speaker 1: quite the unbelievable sideline mobility and mobility. So I think
35:19
Speaker 1: he'd be okay. I don't know if he'd be ideal,
35:21
Speaker 1: but the play well in it, I think. I think
35:24
Speaker 1: it depends on who the nose tackle is. If the
35:26
Speaker 1: nose tackle can eat up one of the guards and
35:27
Speaker 1: give him room to run. I think for the very
35:29
Speaker 1: same reason. Uh my favorite three four linebacker, which Levon
35:33
Speaker 1: kirkwod he was two undred seventy five pounds right him
35:35
Speaker 1: going forward taking on a guard was a fair fight. Um.
35:39
Speaker 1: I don't think either one of these guys are necessarily
35:42
Speaker 1: big enough to take on guards and jam things in
35:45
Speaker 1: the hole. So I think both of them are a
35:47
Speaker 1: little bit miscast as the true Micah Shaq Corterman's the
35:51
Speaker 1: guy on the roster that looks like a true inside linebacker.
35:54
Speaker 1: They're both capable guys. I think they'd be good. So
35:57
Speaker 1: for me, I think at all a lot of it
36:00
Speaker 1: not all of it depends on the money they've paid him.
36:03
Speaker 1: Guess what he's going to be on the field because
36:06
Speaker 1: of the money going out to him. Three four four,
36:09
Speaker 1: three five to whatever alignment you want to put out there.
36:13
Speaker 1: They will find a role for Joe Schulbert and he
36:15
Speaker 1: will go play and he'll make some plays like he
36:18
Speaker 1: did last season. He did he was an effective football
36:21
Speaker 1: player for a defense that struggled last year. Let's say that.
36:25
Speaker 1: But he'll be on the field three four four three,
36:27
Speaker 1: They'll find a place for him. Um, how are your
36:30
Speaker 1: depths to three four? Go play? All right? That brings
36:34
Speaker 1: us to you, John, You were last up with Everyone asks, well,
36:38
Speaker 1: I try to make it timely. They hired coaches last week,
36:41
Speaker 1: So my question is what question would you like most
36:45
Speaker 1: asking assistant coach when we started talking to him. Uh?
36:51
Speaker 1: Mine was I want to ask war Hoop about Cam
36:53
Speaker 1: Robinson and get a real answer, just to see what
36:56
Speaker 1: that's going. We want to talk about that one, JP,
37:00
Speaker 1: What question do you want to ask an assistant I
37:03
Speaker 1: want to ask Brian Schottenheimer what exactly a passing game
37:08
Speaker 1: coordinator does that would be different from the offensive coordinator.
37:12
Speaker 1: And I'm not being Snyder about that. I'm just curious.
37:14
Speaker 1: It's a fairly new phenomenon football to have a passing
37:17
Speaker 1: game coordinator. It feels like a quarterback coach to me,
37:21
Speaker 1: but he has a coordinator title. He and Bevil will
37:23
Speaker 1: be involved. How do you guys work together on a
37:26
Speaker 1: day to day basis to get things right for the
37:28
Speaker 1: quarterback room? That would be my question I want to
37:33
Speaker 1: ask Darryl Bebel and I wanted to ask this in
37:35
Speaker 1: the press comments. My little hand was up on the
37:36
Speaker 1: zoom call. They didn't pick on me. How does he
37:38
Speaker 1: feel about his wide receivers? If he feel like he
37:41
Speaker 1: has a true number one ride wide receiver in DJ
37:44
Speaker 1: Chark or does he feel like he has a number
37:46
Speaker 1: of wide receivers If he doesn't have a number one,
37:48
Speaker 1: does he feel like he needs to go get one
37:50
Speaker 1: in free agencies? He the type of guy that likes
37:53
Speaker 1: a lot of contribution from multiple players or does he
37:56
Speaker 1: want that true number one Julio Jones type of guy.
38:00
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know, and I go with
38:03
Speaker 1: Bob Sutton. I want to talk about the secondary uh
38:06
Speaker 1: in particular, I want to talk about safety, and I
38:09
Speaker 1: want to know about Daniel Thomas. Now, he didn't get
38:11
Speaker 1: to see a lot of last year's sixth round pick,
38:13
Speaker 1: but I as you know was very impressed in the
38:16
Speaker 1: four or five games that we got to see him.
38:19
Speaker 1: So I'd like to have a broad conversation about how
38:21
Speaker 1: he's going to use the safety position, because look, we
38:24
Speaker 1: all know with mobile quarterbacks in this day and age,
38:27
Speaker 1: you need a safety who can run sideline to sideline.
38:29
Speaker 1: There the X factory in stopping someone like a Lamar Jackson.
38:32
Speaker 1: So how do you use it? And what do you
38:34
Speaker 1: think about Daniel Thomas? And that wraps up. Everyone asks you,
38:38
Speaker 1: like the thirty second slander, you think it should be
38:40
Speaker 1: more like forty five. Let's keep timely, all right, We're
38:47
Speaker 1: just about done with this edition of the Jaguars Reporters.
38:51
Speaker 1: One thing left to do, and that is here from someone,
38:55
Speaker 1: someone that one of us talked to every week we
38:57
Speaker 1: call it. Did you hear this? I got the chance
38:59
Speaker 1: to run down a guy that you won't know pretty well,
39:02
Speaker 1: Matt Miller, who used to be with Bleacher Report now
39:05
Speaker 1: is the Draft Scout his own website. And we talked
39:07
Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence and his evaluation, not just a Lawrence,
39:11
Speaker 1: but Meyer because he watches a lot of college take
39:13
Speaker 1: How do you think the whole thing with Urban Meyer
39:16
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence is gonna blend together. He's the best
39:19
Speaker 1: quarterback I've ever evaluated. And it's it's just a simple, Brian,
39:23
Speaker 1: it really is. And you know I say that, and
39:25
Speaker 1: people think that that means he's going to be better
39:27
Speaker 1: than Patrick Mahomes in the NFL. It doesn't quite mean that.
39:31
Speaker 1: It's more so that when evaluating a player, you look
39:34
Speaker 1: at basically what they can do and then what question
39:37
Speaker 1: marks you might have about them. And so with Trevor Lawrence,
39:40
Speaker 1: the things that he can do, that's a laundry list, right.
39:43
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he has everything you want. Arm strength
39:45
Speaker 1: is while not I wouldn't say it's three plus signs,
39:48
Speaker 1: it's probably two. It's really good. The accuracy is is
39:52
Speaker 1: three plus signs. It's phenomenal. The size many six ft
39:55
Speaker 1: six to twenty. He's an exceptional athlete. We've seen him
39:58
Speaker 1: run the read option against Ohio State the two thousand
40:00
Speaker 1: nineteen playoffs, running right at Chase Young and having success.
40:04
Speaker 1: We've seen him scramble extend the play and then he
40:06
Speaker 1: does have that arm talent to open the field up completely.
40:09
Speaker 1: How do you see Trevor Lawrence and Urban Meyer working together? Oh,
40:13
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. There's not a better fit. And I know
40:15
Speaker 1: the pick isn't official yet, I mean it pretty much
40:18
Speaker 1: is though that right, Trevor Lawrence is good enough to
40:22
Speaker 1: bring Urban Meyer out of a job at Fox where
40:25
Speaker 1: he was doing a great job, a big new kickoff, right,
40:27
Speaker 1: and he hadn't made out there, and so to bring
40:29
Speaker 1: him out of retirement get him finally in the NFL.
40:32
Speaker 1: That tells you how good Trevor Lawrences and how good
40:34
Speaker 1: of a fit coach Meyer thinks he is. So from
40:37
Speaker 1: my standpoint, I'm curious to see how Urban changes his
40:40
Speaker 1: offense for the NFL. But a lot of what we're
40:42
Speaker 1: seeing teams run, there's a lot of shades of Ohio
40:44
Speaker 1: State in there. So I think Trevor's ability to move
40:47
Speaker 1: is key. Whether that's a designed r p O, whether
40:50
Speaker 1: that's just a rollout, whether it is some option that's
40:53
Speaker 1: all there. And again I can't highlight enough to the
40:55
Speaker 1: running ability. And this is still a two or twenty
40:58
Speaker 1: pound frame that's gonna fell out. He's only gonna get stronger,
41:01
Speaker 1: and his arms are only gonna get stronger, and already
41:03
Speaker 1: we see vision instincts and then just the mobility. The
41:07
Speaker 1: actual athleticism is phenomenal, So I think it is a
41:10
Speaker 1: perfect fit. I know a lot of people when when
41:12
Speaker 1: Urban first took the job, they wanted to say, oh, well,
41:15
Speaker 1: Justin Field is this guy. Let's remember they actually didn't overlap,
41:17
Speaker 1: but Ohio State Urban was gone about a month before
41:20
Speaker 1: Justin committed there. Obviously there's you know, some connection points.
41:23
Speaker 1: But Trevor Lawrence is the guy, and he is he
41:26
Speaker 1: is the best fit of all the quarterbacks in this
41:27
Speaker 1: class for that offense. We have so much time two
41:32
Speaker 1: months until we get to the draft, more than two months,
41:34
Speaker 1: so we'll hear from Matt again. We'll talk to other
41:37
Speaker 1: draft micks and the mock drafters and everyone out there.
41:40
Speaker 1: But I like Matt because he's a good story. Uh
41:44
Speaker 1: jumped into being a football evaluator pretty much just like
41:48
Speaker 1: that ten years ago and has stood the test of time.
41:52
Speaker 1: So it's fun to hear from people that have a
41:54
Speaker 1: different perspective. And that's what we go for every week.
41:57
Speaker 1: So let's see who's got a podcast coming up this week.
42:00
Speaker 1: I know, JP, you've got one with John and Bucky
42:04
Speaker 1: coming up later in the weeks on Wednesday. Yeah, I know,
42:06
Speaker 1: you guys have drift time on Tuesday, right, Yeah, is
42:11
Speaker 1: there an ozone podcast this week? Johnny, not so much.
42:14
Speaker 1: You just trying to work it out as we get
42:17
Speaker 1: moving forward with the assistant coaches plan to sort of
42:20
Speaker 1: lean on hopefully coming to coordinators and get them insight
42:25
Speaker 1: into what's going on on that level. All right, So
42:28
Speaker 1: this is the Jaguars Reporters thanks to JP and John
42:32
Speaker 1: and Ashlyn will talk to you next week right here,