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68. Mythic Legions Ashes of Agbendor. We get it all wrong! · The Euro Legions Podcast

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My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
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It turns out that Attila the arrogant so and so he's got a
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fake hammer. Oh.
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A fake. Whoa.
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As I say, Dick. So welcome to your Allegiance
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podcast episode 68 and tonight we're going to talk about the
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new wave of mythic legions coming on Friday.
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We're going to talk a little bit about, uh, figure Obscura, which
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is now in hand. Uh, unfortunately rich is in ho
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on holidays, uh, in Wales and apparently they don't have good
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Wi-Fi anywhere in Wales because he's in a different part of
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Wales and it's not working out for him.
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Man, what can we do? A.
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Potato with him, he. Did so I don't know what
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happened to Wales, maybe it was Brexit or something, but they've
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definitely been let down by somebody, umm, in relation to
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the old Wi-Fi rollout and the old, uh, fiber and all that kind
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of stuff. He said his kids were struggling
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on their iPads in the hotel to even watch YouTube and stuff.
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So he called it early. He said, guys, this is not going
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to work. So rather than struggling with
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that, he sent us his list of stuff that we're going to give
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him his word. But we do have some very special
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guests for the start of the show tonight because I'm daddy home
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alone tonight and they're on school holidays and they didn't
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want to go to bed early. So I have two very special
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guests. So can you tell me your name and
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your age? I'm Ben and I'm nine years.
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Old wow And you? Anna and I'm eleven years.
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Old, right? And what relation are you to me?
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Son and dasha. There you go.
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So. I like the look of not being
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sure there. I, I told, I told Anna that this
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might, you know, this will go on our YouTube channel again and
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being a fan of YouTube, she suddenly got very nervous.
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But there's no need to be nervous at all.
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You know, it's only us, uh, nerds you're talking to and only
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the nerds that are going to be looking at you.
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And when you eventually get to go to legions con people might
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even know you, you know, wouldn't that be cool?
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So how much do you want to go to Legions Con Ben?
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A. Lot.
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A lot, yeah. Am I very mean for not letting
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you go? Yes, yes.
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Was during school. You know, that's that's pretty.
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Tough, that's not fair. Make it your own vacation.
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Talk to Jeremy Gerrard the next time I have Jeremy Gerrard on
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the show or that that we're talking to him, we'll we'll send
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in your request for maybe a summer allegiance con or
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something like this. So.
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Yeah, that's good. I told you guys that we're
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getting a new wave of figures announced this week and and
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let's give Ben the first shout. He's he's definitely I think in
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the house, probably the biggest Legions fan apart from me.
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So what? What type of new figures are you
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looking forward to, Ben, if you could pick more?
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Of a lizard or an armored. Devil.
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Oh wow. Think of that, Matt.
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I think Rich would have been very proud.
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Yeah, Rich, just like Ben more than either of us too now, so.
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Yeah, you're now number one. You're number one in the podcast
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rate. Yeah.
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And anything else? What about a dragon would you
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be? Yeah, a big like dragon.
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Like, you know, like the real dragon.
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Oh wow, the figure. The one that a figure would sit
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on or even bigger. Yeah, like a figure would sit on
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or maybe bigger. Wow, like.
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Two figures could go on. Yeah, I think there's a lot of
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people like you that are talking about maybe getting some
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figures, so that would be cool, wouldn't it?
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Yeah. And Joanna, what to What would
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be your number one wish if you were to pick Legions figure?
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More girls. More girls.
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There you go. Look.
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There's not enough girls. There's more boys way.
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More boys? Well, I think there's a group
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called the Legions Ladies and they would definitely be down
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with that opinion. So definitely.
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And, and what specifically what specific type of girls would you
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like? To have berries or.
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Maybe even mermaids. Mermaids.
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Yeah. We we're definitely in to see
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people. Mal.
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Yeah. So yeah, yeah.
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Mal wants to get pirates and stuff.
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And I mean, what's the what, you know, I would be able to.
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I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I.
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Wouldn't be surprised if we get mermaids.
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Or maybe even like a sea monster, sort of.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. You're big into the monsters,
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Ben, are you? Yeah.
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Make a cute purple and yellow monster.
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Oh, she's pandering to the purple Purple gang now.
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The purple gang gang. And what's your favorite color?
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Anna, baby. Purple.
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The heavy purple wow and EUR bend.
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Black. Black.
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Is that even the color well? Yes, or orange.
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Don't look at the mic. Black is one of the colors.
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Is it all of them? Yeah, right.
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And what about like a color that isn't black, that's actually a
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color? Turkeys.
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Turquoise. Oh wow, what about green?
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No, you used to be into green, but not that much.
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Any. I like to be blue too, baby blue
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as well or teal. OK.
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And any other wishes for allegiance this Friday or
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Saturday morning? You get to see that'll show you
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everything that came a. Princess not.
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Rude Princess. Awesome.
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Yeah, there might be a new Princess after this because.
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I think potentially there could be.
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Maybe a few robots because we. That's cosmic lesions, honey.
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I'll be cosmic, yeah. Yeah, in the summer they they're
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probably going to be another cosmic lesions where and Mal is
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big fan of cosmic. Legion I like the robot soon
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there because. Because I've never in like my
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whole time I've known these figures.
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I have never seen a robot and you want.
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You want to say. Something else about a girl
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thing, I don't remember what it's called a girl goblin.
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A girl goblin. Girl goblin would be cool, yeah.
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I've seen a lot of girl goblin costumes, so that would be
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awesome. Yeah, yeah, with a beard or
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without a beard. No, without the beard, it's a
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girl. What about girl dwarfs?
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Because this girl dwarfs that traditionally have had beards.
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But what would you say? No.
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No. I ever doesn't like a panda.
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Oh yes. Or a cat.
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Or a cat, because like, why the heck do you make a monkey
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without the panda? That's a monkey king.
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Yeah, well we we might get a panda and figure obscure or
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maybe in in mythics. If you make a monkey, at least
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make King Kong. We can't make King Kong because
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that's a copyrighted thing, you know?
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So, yeah, OK. Or a tiger.
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Or Tiger. Yeah, we could.
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Well, Tiger love a. Tiger, because on the Monkey
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King box there is actually a tiger.
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There is, yeah. Daddy's been talking about that.
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You could make like a tiger and a lion.
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Oh, you could, yeah, Liger. A Liger.
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There you go. It's a mix between a tiger and a
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lion. It's actually a tiger.
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Tigers, yeah. But OK, 02, well, two is better
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than one man, isn't it? Or at least also a cheeser.
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Yeah. Well, guys, I think, I think
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we've covered everything there. I think there's a lot of
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figures. We're going to be a a lot in
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the, you know, we're going to be wallet is sobbing.
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We're going to be wallet. Sobbing.
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I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
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Think it all. Then what's that?
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Then another idea. What's that?
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You make a version of fairies like a fairy.
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Like what are fairies and nature fairies and why are your
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fairies? Yes.
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Can do all that stuff, but probably not in the one wave.
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You know, maybe a wizard in witch.
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Yeah, Wizard, in which we've kind of got some Wizards
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already. And we were in a double pack.
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Again, there's a chance. Yeah.
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Yeah, Yeah. Well, let's see on Saturday
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morning if you're right. OK, now.
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I hope they at least make an armadillo.
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Well, now's your time. Thanks very much for your
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contribution to the podcast. Yes.
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Thanks guys. Now be good and go to bed so I
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don't need to interrupt the podcast, yeah.
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Yeah. All right.
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Bye. Bye tomorrow, Yeah.
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Bye. Speak soon guys.
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And I can tell you none of that was pre prepared.
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I just told them think of some stuff that you'd like and they
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begged me to come on the show once.
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And this was the perfect opportunity when when Ben did
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mention something about lizards, I was like, oh damn, Rich is not
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going to be here. I didn't say that earlier.
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And I was like, well, you know what?
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He'll hear the show. He'll have to listen to the show
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for once. It's it's actually quite
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interesting little teaser for later on.
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Ben, Rich and I may all have had a similar idea here, as far as
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that goes. There you go.
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There you go. Well, let's let's firstly go
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into talking about the figure obscure in hand, just a little
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follow up from last week because we got that.
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So I got mine today now. So it's very fresh.
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As I said last week, the the expected delivery date was
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Tuesday and it just sat in warehouse in Luxembourg for the
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weekend and Monday and came to me today.
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But it was at least as you say, it's half term and I was here,
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my wife was here if I wasn't here and it was no problem.
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So came at lunchtime and just had me lunch and sat down and
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opened it up there and then and wow, very impressed, very
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impressed. And and you, you got yours.
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Yes, I got mine. Was it last week?
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I got all the. Thursday was it?
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Yeah, possibly, yes. And I got all three deliveries
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at once, which was quite impressive that I got 3-3 in so
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quickly. Yeah, I completely agree with
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you. The new parts are so.
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Good. They're mint, aren't they?
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Yeah. Yeah, they're female parts are
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very subtle, but there, there is a massive difference there as
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well. You know, if you, if you're just
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looking at it, you might not notice, but there's a better
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shape to the legs and the the arms and, and that sort of
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thing. And it, it's so nice.
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Absolutely. And.
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I was going to say because I mean, I was, I'm a one point O
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fan, you know, I mean, I like them both, but like one point O
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it always 10 towards and that's why I have best out here in my
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hand because she is incredible. I was so impressed with her, uh,
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straight out-of-the-box, perfect and really nice.
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You get a you get an extra head with her, you get I think 3
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extra heads and and if it says 2 and really moves nicely, the the
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new parts are amazing. I love the little belt on her
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ear and of course these wraps for the, for the torso and the
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and the kind of upper torso piece.
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Amazing. So nice.
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I assumed that was a Lithia but apparently Eric ended up
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completely re sculpting the a Lithia scope so that's a brand
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new sculpt as well. It is indeed, yeah.
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And it just I think it just looks so good in this kind of
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coloring where it's a little bit that I kind of off white that
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classic. If you were to do the kind of
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bandaged kind of skeleton mummy kind of paint job.
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And and also the tail comes in in the package.
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So you don't need to mess around with that.
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Really nicely wired the cat feet or at least the we say animal
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feet on both of them. Absolutely superb.
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And yeah, so impressed. The only little thing I had was
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the the dog that goes on top of the kind of, what's that called?
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A big tomb piece? Yeah, it doesn't quite.
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It's a little bit fiddly to get the holes to line up with the
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maybe maybe that was just my one or maybe I just need to give it
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a little bit of heat. But you know, again, I can fudge
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that or, you know, as I say, just just a little bit of heat
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and get it in once. It's because that's a kind of a
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clip it in once job and you're done, you know, so I'm not too
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too worried about it. This little cat thing.
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I love it so much. Firstly, you know, you know, I'm
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cat man, but this screen, I already shouted it, I think
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last, you know, when we were just looking at the pictures on
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the screen. This green is just absolutely
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incredible. I love the way it's kind of this
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kind of green and kind of blackish, this classic kind of,
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you know, worn metal kind of thing.
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But this little wooden plinth that it sits on here, that is
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some of the most nicely painted wood I've ever seen.
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That's not wood, you know, that's a piece of plastic
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because it's not really sculpted.
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It's all paint and you get the, you get the kind of wooden
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effect from it. And that's, that's just pretty
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awesome, you know? I must admit I've not looked at
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the accessories that much, they've kind of stayed in the
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package and I've played with the figures a bit more.
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But. Yeah, I gotcha.
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Yeah, I didn't see as I suppose as I didn't have enough time to
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do the whole pop and swap thing. I decided to, you know, pop.
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I didn't pop out all the small little accessories now, but they
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pulled out the bigger ones. But they look great painters,
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you know, and it's fully worth the money.
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Like it's, they're excellent, excellent figures.
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And if you're someone who didn't want the two pack and you can
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pick up the single one that you want on the secondary for say
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under 80, wherever you are, uh, you know, under the equivalent
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of $80.00 or even, you know, 7080 euros.
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Absolutely don't don't think you're getting your pain over
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because it's it's worth that you know, as a single figure with
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what you get and and these would probably be 70 at retail if
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there were single packs, I would guess.
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I wouldn't be surprised and moving forward if they are do
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well. They've said they are doing more
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of the gods on their own shelf. Just the row of these gods with
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their accessories will just look so good.
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It'll look. Oh, they will, yeah.
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And you know, and it should appeal and will appeal to,
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again, it's one of those people outside of mythics community, if
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people get their eyes on it, there's a whole nother group of
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people that might be interested. Even people who are interested
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in their history might think, oh, they're they're cool,
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they're good. I wouldn't mind them on a shelf.
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So who's this Egyptian God here poking up?
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Because that seems to be the one that.
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Give me a second. Kind of got that beaky thing,
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yeah. Oh, is it?
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Is it the bird? It's probably horror.
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Yeah. Then it's the Yeah, Horus.
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Yeah, because you see it there in the middle.
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Yeah, because you got the Anubis.
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That might be Ibis if well. Whoever, whoever it is, has and
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then you got as a bird Bastet. Then on the other side and
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obviously on the Anubis box, it's to the way around.
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Well spell Thoth, but I'm guessing it's Toth.
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OK. Yeah, with the Ibis head.
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OK, so that might be a clue for what's coming next.
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I don't know if they if they will do the the two back thing
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again or if it'll these will come in kind of a single in the
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future, but yeah, well worth it. Anubis has he doesn't have a
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bicep swivel. I found that interesting.
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I got a barbarian and yeah the upper arm is one piece, but then
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you got the lower arm is 2 pieces.
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Right. Yeah, yeah, he's lower arm
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isn't. Because of the.
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Because of the yes, he got the three pieces.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think that's where I was
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missing it. Whereas with the bare lower arm,
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it's just one single piece, which is yeah, of course, fine.
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So anyway, but anything else to shout out about the the two pack
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in hand or no? No, just I think they're
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exceptional again. It's they've smashed it, haven't
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they? Out the park and all the
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absolutely the cloth goods again are just yeah, what can you say
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that you haven't said already? It's brilliant.
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It's like maybe it's slightly firmer wire in these, I don't
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know which, maybe not, I don't know possibly it works anyway if
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the wire gauge is good for for the figure.
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Yep, I've seen for the. That are on the figure.
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Seen a couple of people have an issue with their Anubis tail and
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I can't say. I can't say it's not as tight as
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some of the others, but I'm not having too many.
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Difficulties with it myself. It's not falling out, is it?
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No, no, no. Right.
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So let's get on then to the big announcement.
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Yeah. It was a good transition, John.
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Anyway, Affidian has fallen. All that remains is ash and the
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stories of those who fought so mythical legions.
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Ashes of AG Bendor live wave reveal special.
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So it's Friday 31st of May 7:00 PM Eastern Time.
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So that's about mid. Is that midnight in?
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Midnight for us, yeah. 1:00 for. 1:00 AM for me, I, I mentioned
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to our patrons that I'm going to try and do a watch along on
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Discord, which means that we'll have an audio stream open and
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you can hop in to chat and uh, we'll be watching the YouTube
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video of the four horsemen and then you can just be chatting
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away or uh, just listening to people talk about it.
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So that's that's our first trying time trying that.
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So that should be fun. And so I'll get a little
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afternoon nap on Friday to to be in good shape for that.
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Should should we me and you there at least Mal, I think
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Richard. Yeah, I'll do so.
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But I'm not sure what state I'll be in because I'm at UK Games
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Expo during the day, meant to be out for a couple of beers in the
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evening it. Won't be recorded.
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It won't be recorded or anything, it will just be what
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it is and then it will disappear into the ether.
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So I don't need to worry too much.
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So I'll just read the blurb here.
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Umm. In the aftermath of the Second
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Great War, the Legions of Dark have been defeated, but the
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price paid is a steep one. Many of the realm's greatest
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heroes have made the ultimate sacrifice, and those who remain
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are left to rebuild their shattered world.
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So straightaway talk of people that maybe we know and love from
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Legions, uh, are no more because of this second Great War.
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So it continues. Back in Ophidian, an old wizard
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Combs through the charred remains of the library.
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As Agbendor's new Master of Records, he works to salvage the
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great knowledge once contained within the library's halls.
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He also begins to record stories of the most recent battles.
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For those who will rule mythos tomorrow must know.
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Of the heroism and sacrifice that helped win the second Great
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War and which ended with the rise of the dark 4.
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So that's a lot of info in just one paragraph.
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Uh, that doesn't really. So it says what I previously
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mentioned about the, uh, when, when they're going to start on
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YouTube, uh, with the reveal and then the pre-order will be
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available immediately afterwards on store horseman.com at 8:30
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EST. And then probably the most
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important little paragraph here right at the end, uh, we hope
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you will be able to join us next week as we look at some of the
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warriors of light and dark. So there you go light and dark,
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good guys and bad guys and girls, obviously, uh, who have
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fought in the great wars of mythos.
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So I think that gives us a clue. Umm, and for me, this kind of
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tends to suggest, uh, a version 2's wave, I don't know, Or a, a
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primarily version 2's wave or version 2's heavy wave.
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What do you think, Matt? You see, I you're not alone in
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thinking that. There are others who seem to
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think that, but that isn't my initial thinking.
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So I've done when we talk about our predictions, I've done what
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if, if it's version 2's, but then what I actually think it's
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going to be as well. Awesome, yeah.
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So I've sort of gone with, Jeremy said at some point, and I
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forget when this was the year we were going to start seeing waves
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based on the story much more like we do with Cosmic.
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Yeah. So yeah, I think it leads to a
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smaller wave with a with. Although then when I've written
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my predictions down, there isn't actually as much variety as I
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expected, but with a more variety of, what do you call it,
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factions rather than just one V1?
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Yeah, so that's my thinking. Well, I'll give you I'll give
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you a good one from from Chris James.
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So he says he wanted to share this with us and something that
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might make Rich super happy. And it was a thing that if you
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if you look up Ophidian, so not Ophidian like it's written in
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mythos, but Ophidian is a reptile, a snake like reptile
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creature. And they're also pluralized as
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Ophidia and also known as snake men.
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So that could be, that could be something definitely.
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Ophidian is definitely a reptile.
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Now this is where Basilia is based.
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And Basilia is a serpent, so that could be something related
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to that, but it still wouldn't preclude the fact that maybe,
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you know, some sort of serpent race are going to rise up now
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from the ashes because Vicilia is kind of, you know, risen and
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back and cracking the weapon, whatever, you know.
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Well, and in I've forgotten his name, the blue dragon Arakagor.
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In Arakagor's bio it does actually say about the lizards
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that, well he says the Dragasir. But Dragasir are cousins of
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Dragons and therefore there could be other cousins of
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Dragons, IE other lizards and they are attracted to, they are
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attracted to magic and and that sort of thing.
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So I think again, spoiler for a bit later, this is perhaps where
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we might start seeing the dragon people, the lizard people, well.
24:17
I wouldn't be surprised would be kind of good.
24:22
It would be a good time. If you think of think of
24:24
something like masters when you know, when they went through the
24:29
kind of the horde or whatever, then the snake men rose out of
24:34
the horde. So that was kind of part, you
24:36
know, you had Skeletor, then you had Hordak and then you had, uh,
24:41
King Hiss. So, umm, it is a kind of, it is
24:45
a thing in these type of stories that you know, the different
24:48
types of, you know, the big bads or you know, a different type of
24:53
bad folk kind of come through. I've just had a major brain wave
24:58
as we've been talking. There we go.
25:00
Well, this is this is the time to have it.
25:02
Let's leave it for two hours time.
25:04
Let's leave it for a bit later when we're talking about, well,
25:06
making notes. Yeah, yeah.
25:08
Make a note, make a note, make a note.
25:10
Yeah, right. So how do we want to do this?
25:13
I think maybe I could go through.
25:19
Sorry, man. Yeah.
25:20
I was going to say start with Rich's stuff since he's up here,
25:22
so we can't really elaborate too much on it.
25:25
So, yeah, so I'm going to start with Rich's and then maybe we
25:27
can tag into anything that Rich has said that we agree with, and
25:33
then we can go off on our own tangent with our stuff after
25:38
that. So Rich says the announcement
25:43
wording makes it sound like it's all about heroes.
25:46
OK, until we got that. Before we go into that, can I
25:50
sorry, are we there? So I did a little bit of a bit
25:54
about what I was why I was thinking what I was thinking was
25:57
going to come. So if we do that before we talk
25:59
about. What's to come?
26:00
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
26:01
Do that. So what we get from it is
26:07
there's obviously the attack on the library, library of
26:10
Agbender. Agbendor have you say it yeah,
26:14
as I say I've I've then said I think this means that we get
26:20
more magic users from either side because they are the two
26:24
factions a dork class and something similar, although then
26:27
I'm not sure he actually followed through with that with
26:29
these suggestions. But anyway, the the two factions
26:34
that feel like they could do more characters anyway, but I'm
26:36
not sure we get a whole wave of magic users.
26:39
And we also have the background for part of this story as well.
26:44
For this part of the story in the the the what's it called?
26:51
The Red Star of Kabara? Was that what it's called
26:55
Kabara? Yeah.
26:56
Where we know The Apprentice is passing on secrets and passing
27:02
on information. Yeah.
27:04
To the Red Suns and to Scapula. So Yep, there's another faction
27:10
that could be brought into this. And again, another faction that
27:13
could afford to have a few more characters in it.
27:16
Absolutely. I mean, they're probably the
27:18
most recent faction that's been kind of bolstered, but still.
27:23
Yes, a lot less than any of the others though.
27:25
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
27:27
Also by design as well. A little bit, you know.
27:30
Yeah, but but I but I still wouldn't, I wouldn't be against
27:33
it. Do we have any thoughts about a
27:35
new faction? I'm potentially so sure at this
27:40
point. No, I don't think so.
27:42
Well, I'm not sure it'll be a faction, but it'll be a a sect
27:47
and it'll be the and I'm not sure how they'll do this, but
27:51
it'd be the learned of the it's whatever the what are they
27:58
called that the master belonged to?
28:03
I think I read this earlier and I thought I'd written it the.
28:05
Order of the Learned. Yeah, that's the one.
28:07
Yeah, that's that's the order of the learned, but I'm not sure
28:10
that'll be a faction. I think that's more like a sub
28:12
sub faction. Of yeah, OK, but we're not
28:15
thinking, you know, maybe the the dragon faction that we're
28:19
all kind of thinking about. Not yet.
28:21
I don't think so yet. Do you think maybe some of the
28:24
story might tee us up for later in the year or you know, well
28:29
next year that we start to kind of fill out that type of?
28:33
Yeah, I think what people should remember and I think, well, this
28:37
is my opinion, This is obviously I don't know anymore and this.
28:40
Will Oh no, this is I'm going to title this record at this
28:43
episode. You know how we are so wrong or
28:46
something like this, how we got it all wrong.
28:48
I don't worry about that. I don't think I'm wrong to say
28:51
this is only a small part of the story.
28:55
I don't think everyone should think this is going to be all
28:57
the two point OS or all the you know, I think this is this is
29:02
the story. This is part A and then the next
29:06
bit will be Part B and part C and part D2.
29:09
But do you not think it's the classic thing of like, all all
29:13
this, this huge thing happened and then like, OK, let's go back
29:17
and see how it happened, you know?
29:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's.
29:20
You know what I mean? And and that's and and then work
29:23
through the story to the end point.
29:25
But it's not so important you know the end point, because the
29:27
end point is maybe obvious, but you you are very interested in
29:32
how you got there and what are the ups and downs within.
29:35
Yeah, yeah. But that's what I was saying.
29:36
I think we'll get some of the two point O's in future waves.
29:41
Yeah, you know, rather than it all be in this wave that's.
29:45
Rather be in all this wave. OK, gotcha.
29:47
Yeah, yeah. We might contradict, I might
29:50
contradiction on that, but. Well, I think, yeah.
29:52
That's what leads to to good discussions, as you know.
29:55
And as I say I have been come up with an idea based on what a lot
30:00
of yourselves you bridge and again Claire was very pro this
30:05
being a 2.0 wave. So based on that my ideas are
30:09
really like Oh well it could be but how it will be?
30:13
I think a couple of weeks ago we kind of did, you know, say what
30:16
version 2 Z want. And I think I didn't watch much.
30:20
I'm going to watch Doctor's video after maybe tomorrow after
30:24
this recording is done because they didn't want to watch it all
30:27
and kind of maybe get his opinions into mine.
30:32
You know, I know that you were much more opinionated in that
30:37
you, you have a certain theories and things and you stick to them
30:40
and you're very, uh, particular about that and that's brilliant.
30:44
I might be more sucked into, you know.
30:46
Oh yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, that's way better than my
30:48
opinion and, and just take it. So, uh, I wanted to leave that
30:52
till afterwards and I did watch a little bit of it and he was
30:56
kind of apologizing for it was a little bit off the cuff.
30:59
I loved that style. You know, it was really, I love
31:02
his edited and really tidy style as well.
31:04
But I think there's room for for both types and Bill does
31:09
brilliant content. I just also need to give him a
31:11
massive shout out for what I think he had a massive call.
31:15
That he's not really Go for it. If he's not right, the horsemen
31:18
need to change their plans. But he well, this sounds good.
31:22
Yeah, yeah, he said. He thinks.
31:24
Not in this one, but in the future we'll get the dragon and
31:29
it'll be packaged with Regal version 2.
31:32
Oh, yes. Oh.
31:34
You know, absolutely. Yeah.
31:36
That would be incredible, wouldn't it?
31:37
That would be like take my money.
31:39
That would be take my money at that gift yeah, that gift of the
31:44
the gift not GIF as well because we're we're English over here.
31:48
We speak English and yeah, absolutely give give all my
31:52
money and and I'm waiting for a package to arrive from rich of
31:58
stuff that he has sent me to paint.
31:59
But we also did a little deal on a Rhaegor in exchange for some
32:03
painting. So I'm finally getting a Rhaegor
32:05
into my collection that way. I'll talk about it a bit more
32:10
when when we get there. But I also actually had this
32:14
Rhaegor before because he bought it and it was shipped to me to
32:18
forward on to him. So that's funny.
32:23
So things go back this this ray goer has gone back and forward
32:27
for no reason umm other than he had it for a while and decided
32:30
uh he could get rid of it again for other stuff.
32:34
So shall we go yes uh in in a little bit.
32:38
So rich has leaned he has said uh that uh he thinks it's more
32:44
good guys. I don't know where he gets that
32:45
from in particular because I think, uh, maybe when you le
32:50
read the last paragraph, maybe he didn't uh, quite, uh, get all
32:54
of that paragraph or, or kind of flicked over it because he
32:57
thought the main body of the story was before they did the,
33:01
you know, the announcing of the particulars and the YouTube
33:03
stuff and all that. But he's talking about, uh, it's
33:09
going to be a mainly version 2's wave.
33:13
So the first two he has, and these are actually two that I
33:16
have as well, is uh, an Otho and a Nurzok.
33:21
Uh, for Otho, he says they've been promising him for years.
33:25
Uh, he thinks it's going to come with a helmeted and unhelmeted
33:28
head and some sort of a fancy sword.
33:31
So that we a sword that we haven't had before and obviously
33:35
really beefed up cloth goods, tabard line cloth.
33:40
And for Erzok, he's thinking that he fell in war, uh, a brute
33:44
scale with a faction shield and imposing spiked pauldrons.
33:50
So in terms of the build, sorry Mel, in terms of the build
33:53
there, I've nothing more to add in that.
33:56
You know, I think he's bang on. If they're going to do version
33:59
two, it's going to be in that ballpark.
34:02
I do think they're going to do, uh, version twos.
34:05
And I think that these two would be certain for version twos in
34:07
this way if that's how they go. So anyway.
34:12
I don't I think these two this is this is going.
34:16
To make for a very good conversation.
34:18
I think these two are going to be saved for legions Con, right?
34:22
Otho, particularly because he's so iconic.
34:26
I know we think we're going to get the dragon or some dragon
34:29
way, you know what, whatever dragon thing, but I think that
34:34
could be all part of that. Yeah.
34:38
And I just think Otho fits with like I I just feel like the wave
34:42
we're going to get announced that legions con is going to be
34:47
big, not like necessarily numbers of figures big, but big
34:51
in terms of wow, you know, blow your blow your mind kind of big.
34:57
So I think they'll save Otho for that.
35:01
Yeah, Ozark possibly, but if if I feel like he fits more with
35:08
whatever's going on where Otho is and you know the attack on
35:12
whichever part of mythos than he does this one.
35:16
I'm, you know, I'm thinking both owners occur A2 pack or
35:22
virtually A2 pack. You know, even if they're single
35:25
packed, I think they will be in the same wave as a kind of a
35:29
Yang and the Yang. That's my my thoughts on that.
35:35
Shall I move on as a spirit Bender?
35:39
He says then maybe instead Hera, but I hope not because he thinks
35:44
the original is good enough or is so good he says here.
35:48
So he, he doesn't see any improvements for the original
35:51
Hera. He has said that before on the
35:53
show. Uh, he thinks as a fell
35:56
defending Aphidian, uh, she's going to have a soft goods cloak
36:01
and a skirt. Uh, wicked looking magic effects
36:04
and a screaming head as additions to the original
36:08
figure. I think if they're going to go
36:11
down to version 2's root, she's a good one to revisit definitely
36:14
because she's a very popular character and I don't think as a
36:19
figure she's as good as maybe her character is if you if you
36:24
understand that kind of logic. Yeah.
36:27
So, so if we're going down the version 2 roots, yeah, as a full
36:39
wave, I think she's a possibility.
36:41
If there is only a couple of version twos, I don't think
36:45
she's it. Pair, yeah, I think absolutely.
36:50
If she's if there's only a few version twos then she's
36:53
definitely not in the in the top tier.
36:56
So, so how? Should we do this?
36:57
Do we? Are we going to go through
36:58
Rich's first and then discuss? Yeah, let's.
37:00
Go through. Yeah, yeah, let's go through his
37:03
whole lot. I think I'll take mine next
37:05
because mine has some similarities to Rich.
37:07
And then you can bring us home with.
37:10
With. With definitely more of the
37:12
interesting outside calls and probably better.
37:18
I've done what I've come up with, definitely.
37:21
So, Sir Galleron, is this next one, uh, ripe for version 2?
37:26
Definitely. Uh, he says this would explain
37:29
why he wasn't in the reissues recently, so fair enough.
37:34
Uh, he thinks he would have fallen during the war as well.
37:37
Umm, helmeted and unhelmeted heads.
37:39
I think we've mentioned that before.
37:40
I think that's an obvious one. If you're going to do, uh,
37:42
Galleron is to do an, uh, helmeted head, a scarred, uh,
37:47
unhelmeted head. He thinks, you know, makes
37:50
sense. I think for me, a cool bio
37:52
revealing how he got his revenge finally on the battlefield for
37:55
the mysterious incident in his past and a new type of weapon,
38:00
maybe a new type of spear or at least a new type of blade with
38:04
him. So yeah, awesome.
38:06
I think, uh, I think we probably are going to get a Galleron
38:09
version too at some point in time yes.
38:12
And I think it would be those things.
38:15
You don't think? No, no.
38:19
Do you not think the way Jeremy and Eric were talking about
38:22
version twos so much I could be. Very wrong.
38:27
I think they just pontificating isn't quite the right word, but
38:31
pontificating on the fact that they are I.
38:33
Don't want to convince you. I don't want to convince you too
38:36
much because you have another angle here and I don't want you
38:38
to. I don't want to to take your
38:41
confidence away from that. And you kind of apologize then
38:44
for telling us about it? Well, I, I, I think that was
38:48
more of them just making it known why they're not doing All
38:52
Stars and that they are working on version twos.
38:54
And that's possible that a load of them designed, but I just
38:58
don't, I'm not so sure with the way these are the story element
39:05
of it that it suits to just throw all the version twos at at
39:11
us at once. So let's see, yeah.
39:16
So Faunus is the next one. Umm, a more grizzled head
39:20
sculpt, maybe with a beard, gnarly limbs or hands slash
39:24
feet, uh, Holy Grail would be a gnarly root system torso, uh,
39:29
that soft goods can weave through?
39:31
Oh, he's going to town here. Could make the wood parts thorny
39:38
for an even more badass look and new elemental magic effects.
39:43
Maybe tree roots coming out of the ground I mean.
39:45
That'd be that'd be amazing. Let Rich design the new Faunus.
39:50
Uh, just tell Eric what's scoped.
39:52
Uh, I think we'd be good there. That would be amazing.
39:55
I'd love another faunus. Umm, I'd love even another one
39:58
of the reexisting Faunus that I could do with a repaint for
40:01
myself. Uh, in terms of just, I would
40:04
just repaint them. I don't think the paint job is
40:06
bad. I just think I'd have another
40:08
version of Faunus, maybe with slightly.
40:11
More weathered wood or something and a bit of Moss kind of stuck
40:14
onto him or whatever. Umm Thord iron jaw, uh, crying
40:20
out for a fancy new dwarf build. Soft goods uh, in abundance.
40:27
A glorious new hammer. Maybe a battle of the screaming
40:31
head sculpt. Maybe he falls in battle before
40:35
taking both are with him, but maybe he survives.
40:39
So a lot of sitting on the fence here with Bolter or with Thord
40:44
here. Rich but gotta have a dig, you
40:48
know? But that's another version too,
40:50
that I think nobody could argue about that, that he's probably
40:53
going to be a version two at some point.
40:55
Yeah, again, Faunus and him. I just don't think it's this
40:59
way. Fair enough, but I think you'd
41:03
agree with how he might be like. Rich is probably spot on with
41:08
what he would get in the third version too.
41:12
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, I think yeah.
41:16
What had the way he describes them and what his ideas for them
41:18
are, I think so awesome. And yeah, I hope we do get
41:21
those. Oh yeah.
41:22
I just think they're future Story Wave releases.
41:29
Absolutely. Actually, Yeah.
41:31
The the quality of the north. Syria have Gotham rich.
41:33
I wish he'd send these to me every week.
41:35
This would be awesome, particularly for the stuff I
41:39
think about, you know, just pass it off as my own stuff.
41:43
Pixis. So this is one you can get down
41:45
with. Malan know you're a big Pixis
41:47
fan. And if we get a two point, if
41:50
this is a mostly 2.0 wave, I think we get Pixis.
41:54
Yeah, you think so? Yeah.
41:56
Oh, wow. I don't think there'll be a
41:58
version 2 Pixis. Because I don't think there will
42:00
be a realistically, but I'd love it because he's.
42:04
Yeah, yeah, I'd love it as well, but I think he he's a kind of a
42:07
soft tribute to somebody and I think that probably going to
42:11
leave it at that, but maybe not umm he's he rediscovers his
42:15
heroic self in the final battle by saving Vitas.
42:19
This may be part of the sun's as a whole helping side of light
42:25
question mark. Whoa, that is, now you're
42:28
dropping in thinking you're. Drinking where that comes from.
42:34
He's had a pina colada at the bar on holidays with this one
42:37
now. New Mccurry and helmet with
42:39
visible skull underneath it. I mean this is just he's just
42:43
talking about his own wet dreams here.
42:45
A fancier armor maybe with symbolic pauldrons, multiple
42:50
swords and a belt for those and a soft goods Cape that's more
42:54
dramatic and maybe bigger. So I don't know.
42:57
So something he does Demistrus say here, I think he's how we
43:02
potentially get another pixos, a version 2 pixos.
43:06
And I actually think it's when they go back because I think
43:11
we've gone, we've jumped ahead to the dark 4 have arrived and
43:17
they get they're defeated and what's gone on during that
43:20
battle, I think at some point they're again going to go back
43:23
again to before that, because there's a lot of story and a lot
43:29
of characters we perhaps don't have from previous, you know,
43:34
from the great beasts and all that that time.
43:37
So I think we get Pixas pre turned by Necronominus if we get
43:42
a version 2 Pixas realistically. Although I do suggest we get him
43:46
in this wave as a version 2 but it's a bit of a pipe dream.
43:52
Sure. Now I I do, I would like a kind
43:57
of a, you know, non skeleton pixis, actually, you know, a
44:01
prequel pixis, But I think it it's it's maybe a stretch, but
44:06
another version of pixels kind of with different armor or, you
44:10
know, would be also cool. And now we get we're out of the
44:14
version twos now. So rich is that's his version
44:17
twos. If if we're going to get version
44:19
twos now we get to the good stuff.
44:21
So what do you think is next man?
44:22
Any any guesses? I can't possibly think what
44:26
might be a snake man. Would that surprise you?
44:30
What? Peter thought Rich would mention
44:33
a snake man. Now here comes the good stuff,
44:36
right? The destruction of Amphibian led
44:39
to a great rift appearing from the earth.
44:42
This rift came a subterranean race of snake men.
44:47
They're from Basilia's bloodline, and they're noble
44:50
despite their appearance, so I love that.
44:52
Already a bit of a switcheroo. Snake guys.
44:54
Snake men are the good guys. Uh, their entry into the battle
44:58
stopped the library and the city being completely destroyed.
45:02
Now that wizard is going through the charred remains of the
45:05
library, so they didn't do a great job.
45:07
I'd say umm, the body uh, to be snake lower half and more of a
45:14
standard torso in arms. 2 head sculpts with a tongue, one with
45:19
a tongue sticking out, a feathered headpiece and some
45:22
sort of honour, uh, honour to their winged God in the
45:28
headpiece and curved blades or weapons.
45:30
He's a big fan of his curved blades.
45:33
So yeah, Yep. I mean, if we're going to get
45:37
snake then very cool. But I'm not sure Rich.
45:40
Rich has commissioned awesome snake customs in the past and I
45:46
think there has been a lot of cool custom snake man pieces.
45:50
And you know, anything along those lines would be awesome.
45:56
So there's your snake man. I think if we're going to get a
46:00
snake man and mythos, it's probably going to be along those
46:03
lines. I do love the the snake man
46:06
being the good guys. That might be cool, or at least
46:09
the maybe the ambiguous guys, the guys that we we were not so
46:15
sure, you know, that they may be playing both sides.
46:19
That'd be cool. And then we get the master of
46:21
records. So this is one that we've talked
46:24
about. So this is the one mentioned in
46:27
the in the blurb from Jeremy. The first thing he says is no.
46:32
No, Rich says it's the one from the Sun's story.
46:35
Which? Is yeah, but then he's asking is
46:37
if is it the same character as the same story.
46:41
So if we see in Jeremy's. It's the new, IT says.
46:45
Here it says the new master of records, but is was the Guy in
46:52
the Sun story actually the master of records at the time?
46:55
That's true, he described him just as the master didn't any
46:58
mentor of the mentor of The Apprentice.
47:00
Master Apprentice, Yeah. So maybe it's different, but but
47:05
maybe maybe not it it leaves it open at least.
47:08
Yes, I would love to get those two characters.
47:10
I have to say from the register of Guebara story, not just
47:14
because we we voiced them in the story, they were also the night
47:18
I feel a sort of personal affinity to to all of the
47:21
characters in that story. And white would it so an older
47:26
human face, he says, and ideally without a beard.
47:29
So he wants a craggly old dude, but without a beard.
47:33
So you get, you know you get. Something a bit different,
47:37
wouldn't it, to what we've? Got yeah, that's kind of head
47:38
sculpt. That's kind of old man.
47:40
But it isn't then just the beard.
47:43
So. So you don't get the kind of
47:45
head sculpt fully. So he wants a real old human
47:48
face. I like that, uh, concept, umm,
47:50
white wizard robes. Love that.
47:54
And that that was also going to give you some white robes for
47:59
maybe other customs and that people might be into tribute
48:02
customs or whatever. Umm, some sort of orb.
48:08
Yeah, very easy to dye to any color as well.
48:10
Yeah, that's another good shift. Uh, some sort of orb for
48:14
recanting stories, uh, into and scroll accessories as well.
48:20
Scroll accessories would be amazing.
48:23
So that's Richard. So he's talking mainly V twos
48:28
plus a couple of figures there and of course he's getting in
48:31
the abriglatory snake man and maybe lizard.
48:36
He would take as well a lot of those slangs.
48:39
So that's rich for me. I'm very similar to rich and I
48:46
swear I didn't copy his notes. But what what I what I'm going
48:50
to really go out on a limb and say is that it's I think it's a
48:55
full version two wave, right? So I would love all the other
48:58
stuff. So don't get me wrong, if we get
49:00
the master of records and snake guys or, you know, new
49:04
characters, I'm all down for it. But I think it's going to be a
49:08
full version two wave and I think, umm, this definitely
49:12
isn't going to happen, but I think it might be structured
49:15
like 2 packs, right. So versus yeah, you've got the
49:21
so we've got the versus factions.
49:24
So Otto versus Razak, we've got Balan versus Malachi, Cinder
49:30
horn. OK, no, I'm it's a I'm not going
49:34
for them. Yeah, I'm not going for the
49:36
main, maybe the main character in those factions because I
49:39
think that I'm going for the most likely to get a version two
49:44
or that needs a version two, in my opinion.
49:47
So Sir Galleon Galleron versus Malleus.
49:50
So that's interesting. You had Sir Galleron as well,
49:52
then? I.
49:53
Think yes, now I think it's more likely to be Etheron, but then I
49:58
think also if we're going to get a version two of Etheron, we
50:01
might just get the four. Umm.
50:03
Yeah, the beasts. The four good, uh, beasts in one
50:07
wave or yeah or as a focal point of a wave going forward.
50:11
That's that we know we're going to get one in each wave, which
50:14
is probably more likely. Umm Asterion versus Carpathius
50:19
is, is the Ilona versus Ilithia and Thord Iron jaw versus Grisha
50:26
is your uh, House of the noble barrier versus Sons of the Red
50:32
Star. There's ten figures.
50:33
That's probably quite a big way, but if you structure them as 2
50:37
packs, it's 5-2 packs and that's been reasonable for uh, an hour
50:44
and a half live stream to do them.
50:47
I do probably still think that they're going to have a couple
50:52
of new figures or you know, so it's going to be heavy on the
50:55
version twos, but still that it's going to be there's going
50:59
to be a couple of, uh, of new figures, be it like army
51:04
builders maybe, or, you know, or maybe like not a legion builder
51:09
price, like a full price character, like a $37 figure,
51:13
but you know, something like the Traxion scouting cosmic.
51:18
That's a full price figure but can be very easily army built.
51:24
We've definitely got similar thoughts across the three of us
51:27
from that perspective of there will probably be an Army
51:30
builder. Yeah, right, Mal.
51:34
No, this is the good stuff. Right.
51:37
So I think 6 to 8 figure wave, as I said before, if no, so we
51:46
are, I think we're definitely getting a couple maybe more
51:50
version twos. But the two version twos I'm
51:54
almost certain we're getting and no idea why.
51:58
It's not like I've got any. I love it.
52:00
It's going to be too random. It's like Fury or.
52:03
And yeah, that's how did you get now Malachi Cinderhorn, I'm
52:06
almost. OK, he had almost.
52:10
Almost positive we're getting him.
52:11
I don't get it. Actually, he'd be one of my
52:13
least likely of the 10 version twos.
52:16
I I shouted out. Anyway, it's.
52:18
Just that why are those shadow walks suddenly being made again?
52:22
Gotcha. Yeah.
52:23
And end, just end it end that was really it isn't.
52:27
Is is real Birmingham? Yeah, it isn't just because of,
52:33
what's the name, Cinderhorn. And the fact we now have her as
52:36
well makes me positive we're getting Malachi at some point.
52:39
And this is the perfect time. Because in my head, in this
52:44
story, whilst it's not going to be entirely magic versus magic,
52:49
it makes most sense that it's the magic users against the
52:52
magic users to bring down the library with a few fisticuffs in
52:58
it there as well. And I also think the the little
53:02
following a little bit the logic of All Star 6 where where you
53:06
got a couple of characters that maybe didn't quite make the big
53:11
wave. Yes, yeah, it that would make
53:15
sense. And Malachi is a good one then
53:17
to to slot into wave like, you know, this kind of mid season
53:22
wave, you know. Yeah.
53:23
And and then I think the version 2 for the good guys that light
53:29
is jar and I think now is the time to get jar and dream shaper
53:33
with the. OK.
53:34
I don't think we get torrent at all deal.
53:36
No, I think there's there's at least.
53:39
I'll admit this could least. Toward is is is way ahead of.
53:44
This could be the one that is just what Malcolm really, really
53:47
wants, I admit. Because.
53:49
Yeah. And that's, that's also allowed
53:51
because actually, but I'm going to, I'm going to say no chance.
53:54
If we don't get him, I think we get one.
53:56
So, so if it's a a largely I've then done.
54:00
If it's a largely All Star wave, not All Star version two wave, I
54:05
think we get. Don't confuse the people.
54:07
I know, yeah, I think we get 4. I've got the forces of light.
54:17
We get, we get error. We get a redo of error.
54:21
Wow. And we get Balaam as well.
54:24
Oh yeah? Well, of course.
54:26
Yeah, for the forces of dark, I think.
54:29
Then again, if this is an all 2.0 a version two wave, we get
54:34
Torian, we get Pixos, and we get Grisha.
54:41
Wow, it's all Sons of the Red Star, no?
54:43
No Tori and Tori and his poxos and then the sons of the Red
54:47
Star with pixos and Grisha. And this is the brain wave I had
54:50
when we were back there. Grisha 2.0 version 2 lizard man.
55:01
It makes so much sense for him to have an alternative lizard
55:05
face, doesn't it? But then how do you how do you
55:11
explain the skinny build? Because I don't know if that
55:13
will work on the lizard or are they going to do skinny lizards
55:16
or? There's lots of different, it
55:18
says on the there's lots of different offshoots, the
55:21
Dragasira just one of them. So he could just be a virgin, or
55:26
he could be a cross, you know, half human, half lizard.
55:30
Hybrid. Oh yeah.
55:32
True. So then so if it's an all or
55:35
mostly all, mostly version two wave, I then think we get a
55:40
builder as well. So that was 123-4567.
55:45
So we get one more and we get a builder and I think it's the
55:48
library guard. Oh nice.
55:52
What they take the format of, I don't know.
55:55
They were what? I wondered if that would be
55:58
where we get the lizard men and that the guard are the lizard.
56:03
Oh, the Basilia, the Affilian life.
56:05
Oh wow, that would be awesome. That would be cool and.
56:10
Love it. Love all these theories.
56:11
Right. So that's if we get a largely
56:13
version two wave. If we get the wave, I think
56:18
we're going to get, as I say, Malachi.
56:20
Here we go, version 2. Malachi Cinder horn version 2
56:24
jar and room shaper. You might be right.
56:26
You're probably right. We're not getting him, but we're
56:28
going to go on as if we are Yeah.
56:31
We then also get the master and The Apprentice.
56:35
The master being. Super.
56:40
Convocation and The Apprentice being Sons of the Red Star, we
56:48
then I think, yeah, no matter what, I think we get that
56:51
builder and we get the library guard.
56:54
I'm positive we're going to get a library guard of some sort.
56:56
So the master and The Apprentice going to be kind of human.
57:00
I don't know. I think so they were sort of it
57:04
wasn't. Obvious.
57:05
OK, Wizard D maybe for the master, but The Apprentice?
57:09
Could be, I mean, anything. Couldn't.
57:11
He could be dwarf and it could be some of the creature.
57:14
It wasn't really clear. I mean, it'd be fun to make him
57:19
something else. What?
57:20
Some furry creature of some kind.
57:24
Yeah, I mean, there's a Raka Gore in there, so you know.
57:27
Well, maybe that's where we get a new fuzz monk in.
57:30
Yeah, yeah, OK. He's a bad fuzz monk.
57:33
Treacherous Funk Fuzz Monk. I know we've got one in the sun,
57:36
so the Red Star, but he's not officially Canon the other one,
57:39
so. So yeah.
57:43
So as I say, I still think we get the builder who is the
57:46
library guard. I then think we get a If we're
57:53
not getting an All All Stars wave, I then think there is room
57:57
for this lizard race. I don't know how that comes into
58:04
it, where it comes into it. I can't help feeling it's going
58:06
to be connected to the convocation though in some in
58:11
some way. Which is funny because before
58:14
you know, even Rich seems to think that as well.
58:16
It just makes sense that they're related because of Dragasir and.
58:19
Arrow, Yeah. And Basilia and that all thing,
58:23
yeah. I did say the library guard in
58:26
that case, maybe we that's where we get a half orc or another
58:31
minor tour or you know, some some generic.
58:35
Sort of feature. Yeah, that can.
58:38
And I must admit that's where I kind of got a bit stuck.
58:43
So what's that as 12345? That would be 6.
58:47
That would be a six figure wave. I then also wonder if we get an
58:51
accessory pack or a dialogue. I saw Kevin Booths today
58:56
shouting out another heads pack possibly.
59:00
That could then be used on your library guard.
59:03
Icons of Mythos head pack maybe? You know, that would be quite
59:07
cool, yeah. Yeah, wouldn't that be cool?
59:08
You know, fallen, the fallen of mythos or something like this or
59:13
that would be pretty cool. You get a note.
59:15
Imagine getting a note or head in a in a heads back.
59:18
That would be quite good, wouldn't it?
59:20
You get the the original version, head back and then they
59:23
do they do in version twos. Yeah, that would be quite cool.
59:27
You don't worry if they did an Asterian then get, you know, you
59:30
get the Asterian in the head pack, you know, So it's again
59:34
the, yeah, it's again the the monitor head.
59:37
But you get that cool paint job that isn't that easy to do,
59:42
would say no. And it goes pretty well on a
59:45
barbarian body, you know, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
59:48
Oh well, I definitely think we get all of those mentioned by
59:54
yourself and Rich as two point as version twos eventually.
59:58
But I just feel, yeah, I just feel like they're going to.
1:00:02
Trip. I don't know, that's just
1:00:05
something about. I don't think they would want to
1:00:09
do a full on. Here's a load aversion to use.
1:00:14
Yeah, my, my little Yeah, My hesitation about that is that we
1:00:19
haven't had very many new characters this year.
1:00:23
Yeah, so far. I mean, the Anubis and Bastet
1:00:26
are out of the park, like loads of new parts.
1:00:30
Uh, OK, that's typical now for Figura Obscura, but they've got
1:00:34
loads of new parts, they're totally new characters, they're
1:00:36
amazing. And even the second drop they
1:00:38
put on has sold out today. Yeah.
1:00:42
So I bought another two pack because I just, I think I there
1:00:47
was 24 left when I bought them. I was like, OK, yeah, I need
1:00:50
another two of these for parts and to do something which I'm
1:00:55
playing with. Yeah, but the very worst, if I'm
1:00:58
really stuck, I can sell one of them maybe and exactly the parts
1:01:01
from the other. Anyway, yeah, I just couldn't
1:01:04
leave it there. And the shipping was like 28.
1:01:06
So I mean, come on to Europe. That's not OK.
1:01:09
And you had the tax, but like, you know, if you're in Texas,
1:01:11
maybe you pay taxes also, you know?
1:01:13
Yeah, I don't really count the tax anymore.
1:01:16
That's just what it is. Umm, so I'm, I'm part of me is
1:01:22
thinking that, but at the same time, version twos would have a
1:01:26
lot of new parts and stuff. You know, they definitely
1:01:29
wouldn't leave us short on that. It wouldn't be repaints, but I
1:01:34
do feel like they need or would be great if there was a couple
1:01:38
of new characters to really just, you know, that is another
1:01:41
bit of excitement. That isn't.
1:01:43
Yeah, that is my part of my thinking is.
1:01:47
Yeah. By just doing all version twos
1:01:49
and going all the Great War, you're almost going, well, this
1:01:53
is everyone who exists in mythos.
1:01:55
Yeah, we know it isn't, but this is everyone.
1:01:58
So you kind of need to introduce new characters during the Great
1:02:02
War to to increase the the story and the the the number.
1:02:09
Of on the other hand, it could be like, OK, here's all your
1:02:12
version 2's. G Khan is going to be all these
1:02:17
new guys. Dragon could be could be
1:02:19
definitely no and and that's your reset of mythic legions.
1:02:24
You know it's like here's all your version 2's your
1:02:27
collection's up to date in terms of you've got all the heavy
1:02:30
hitters you know anyone that's been in the line the last cou
1:02:33
two years say are missing a couple of the heavy hitters
1:02:36
here's all your heavy hitters all the other heavy hitters that
1:02:39
you don't can't get they're all dead.
1:02:42
So don't worry about it. Umm.
1:02:45
And here's the dragon coming in G Con or coming just before G
1:02:49
Con. And here's.
1:02:51
Uh. Whole new couple of new
1:02:53
factions, couple of new faction leaders for the faction leaders
1:02:57
that have fallen. Umm couple of new big bads, a
1:03:01
new race like the lizards and stuff like that.
1:03:04
Like riches banging on about uh, but you know, you can go various
1:03:08
ways skeletons, you know why not?
1:03:13
Yeah uh, all sorts of all sorts of kind of developments there.
1:03:17
We didn't really, we didn't really mention too much of like
1:03:21
skeleton kind of stuff. I mean, people are clamoring for
1:03:24
Brother Mandibulous version two. I just think why he's awesome.
1:03:28
I also think that he is. I also think that comes because
1:03:32
if you think about it, we're getting the story of 1/4 of the
1:03:35
map. So I I think we get the story.
1:03:40
This is how it's going to play out.
1:03:41
We're going to get all this time ether.
1:03:44
This is the quarter of the map that's that's kind of that's
1:03:48
chronicling the story. They're the storytellers.
1:03:52
Yes, yes. So it's starting there and then
1:03:54
going to. Spring, you know, so I don't
1:03:57
think that restricts us in terms of the factions, but.
1:04:02
No. I I think that if we're going to
1:04:06
get some extra characters, maybe it is more focused on that
1:04:10
corner. Yeah.
1:04:11
You know, the Affidian thing. Well, and the story we've had
1:04:14
before of the Suns, the, you know, that's why I bring that
1:04:17
into it because, yeah, we have a connection there of we know that
1:04:21
this Red Star spying on the tower, well, probably all over
1:04:26
it, but the tower particularly not the tower.
1:04:28
The, I think some of this now we're like, we're recording this
1:04:35
on, on Tuesday and I kind of have fixed.
1:04:41
I knew Monday was a bank holiday or like a public holiday in the
1:04:44
States. And I kind of half expected
1:04:46
maybe Jeremy would start dropping some story things like
1:04:51
he did for say, some of the Cosmics waves or the Red Star
1:04:54
wave. Umm.
1:04:56
Now maybe that'll happen tomorrow and I'll be like
1:04:58
editing this and scratching my head and going.
1:05:01
Completely destroy all our ideas.
1:05:04
Don't do it. Jeremy and I'll be like, OK, we
1:05:05
need to get this out quick. Umm, no.
1:05:08
But on the other hand, umm, maybe he won't.
1:05:11
But I think one of the most important things to it that's
1:05:13
going to emerge in this is the extra story, be it through BIOS
1:05:17
or be it through a couple of extra articles that they post on
1:05:21
their website. And the fire, Look at the fire
1:05:25
in that picture. I know.
1:05:27
Yeah, that's is that not Screaming Dragon.
1:05:30
Yeah, as you know, that made me think twice and then a few
1:05:34
conversations that we've had made me go.
1:05:37
Maybe not. Yeah, that, that's more than
1:05:42
we'll get this time, so. Yeah, but look at it.
1:05:46
It's no, it's crazy. I don't know.
1:05:50
You make a good point about the story drops, but I also I wonder
1:05:54
if the story will be told through the BIOS.
1:05:57
Yeah, maybe, Yeah, that's the traditional way.
1:06:00
But then maybe interestingly we might get a story post wave
1:06:06
drop. Yeah, no, yeah, a couple of that
1:06:09
and that, that's definitely another way of doing it and
1:06:11
another way of, umm, if people are a little bit oh, why did we
1:06:15
get this and why did we get that and then drop a couple of
1:06:19
stories where, uh, it explains it a bit more and yeah, why not?
1:06:25
But, umm, super exciting times. I mean, these are the times to
1:06:30
be alive as a Legions fan, you know?
1:06:33
And, and these are some of the most fun episodes we get to do
1:06:39
because. Yeah, because as I've said many
1:06:43
times, the most important thing in in this for us is to is to
1:06:48
talk about it and say what we think It's not to be right.
1:06:51
It's great to be right. I love being right.
1:06:53
Yeah, yeah. But it's just letting your
1:06:55
imagination run away with itself.
1:06:56
Yeah. So for me anyway, but also for
1:07:00
that little bit of investigating what's been said and what's been
1:07:03
done to make it feel like it's it fits.
1:07:07
You know, yeah. And we get to do that and as
1:07:12
like we're doing the podcast for a long time now.
1:07:13
So I'm very into the lore and so I'm much more informed than in
1:07:19
what I'm talk and what I'm thinking about.
1:07:21
That doesn't make me any more right when I make a prediction,
1:07:25
but it maybe I I can back up my prediction a bit more.
1:07:29
Whereas previously it was just like, oh, I think we need this
1:07:33
type of character and a little bit more like the kids that we
1:07:36
were talking to them earlier. It was literally, you know, what
1:07:40
do you want? If you walk into the store
1:07:43
tomorrow and see a chef of legions, what would you like to
1:07:46
find? You know, that's the way they
1:07:48
approach it. Yeah.
1:07:49
And maybe that's the best. But yeah, it's so much fun.
1:07:53
And, you know, the, the stuff that we're customizing today and
1:07:57
the stuff that you know, might be figures, there might be, you
1:08:01
know, the same type of figures tomorrow, you know.
1:08:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so, yeah.
1:08:05
I mean my imagination, well, as I say, I go off investigating,
1:08:12
so I don't let my imagination run too wild.
1:08:14
But yeah, my imagination definitely goes go.
1:08:16
But I'd argue it's getting hard. Well, we're going through a
1:08:20
phase where it's become harder to guess even or to predict
1:08:24
well, to even have a sensible guess because.
1:08:28
Yeah, because we don't know what's coming.
1:08:32
You know, the minute it's story based, we don't know what the
1:08:35
story is yet. So we you know, when it's wave
1:08:39
versus wave and there's no real story, Well, these characters
1:08:43
fit in this wave. These not wave if faction, these
1:08:48
characters fit in this faction. So it'll be something like that.
1:08:51
And you know, we got a few quite close with Necronominus and a
1:08:55
few quite close with Ether on and that.
1:08:58
And it is it's just going well, what makes sense?
1:09:00
Yeah, it makes sense that you get a this and this and this
1:09:04
when it's a story. As I say, to me, it could
1:09:06
literally be anyone from any faction who plays a part in the
1:09:11
downfall of that bit of well, not even the downfall, but in
1:09:16
this case, the downfall of the library.
1:09:19
Excuse me and Davidian. Yeah, but but it's like before
1:09:22
you read the Red Star of Kabiro, we would never have talked or
1:09:26
mentioned about the master or Princess character, you know?
1:09:29
You know, that wouldn't have come across a radar.
1:09:31
Yeah, but now that they've been introduced.
1:09:33
For them, you're like, yeah. And they could be just two dudes
1:09:37
in robes and you're like, that could be Arazak.
1:09:40
And yeah, well, that's it. Could be it's a beer, but yeah,
1:09:45
but you know, you give them a couple of interesting
1:09:48
accessories, you give them a good back story and.
1:09:51
The Apprentice feels more important than the master to be
1:09:55
honest, so. The Apprentice to me seems very
1:09:58
snaky and that he might have, you know, really a snarly face.
1:10:01
And maybe, you know, if he is human, that he would have like
1:10:05
kind of, you know, maybe some postules on his face and some
1:10:09
kind of, you know, really kind of big hooked nose and kind of,
1:10:13
you know, a little bit kind of ugly and disgusting kind of as a
1:10:19
as a human. So maybe the that's already
1:10:23
interesting will be the maybe the gobbling.
1:10:26
Yeah. Well, what if he's the first
1:10:27
halfling that we get? Oh yeah.
1:10:30
Well, that. 'D be good.
1:10:31
Yeah. And another like another type
1:10:35
like Speaking of type of characters and a type of
1:10:37
character I'd love to get is a Bart.
1:10:40
Yeah, yeah, that would be cool, like.
1:10:42
Imagine the bird telling the story of mythos.
1:10:45
Yeah, Yeah. In, you know, when the second
1:10:47
Great War happens and the Bard is, like, sitting there in the
1:10:52
background in the Phidian, you know, and the guy's going
1:10:55
through all the records or, you know, trying to savage the
1:10:58
records. And the bard's just kind of
1:11:00
looking over his shoulder and he's just, you know, making up
1:11:02
songs as he goes. And that would be cool.
1:11:04
Firstly, you get the awesome instrument accessories, which
1:11:07
I'm always down for, uh, being someone who devils in a bit of
1:11:11
music, But also I just love that type of character.
1:11:14
Like the Bard in the Witcher is my favorite character.
1:11:16
Like if I, if I could just watch, if there was a Witcher
1:11:19
spin off series, I'd just want to be follow the Bard, you know,
1:11:23
Yeah, you know, now whether it's the Bard, you know, with all the
1:11:27
different ladies and you know, that would be a fun character
1:11:30
arc, or just the Bard getting to all these scrapes.
1:11:34
You know, it is such a fun character.
1:11:36
I imagine if you play D&D and you're a Bard, it's a great bit
1:11:40
of crack. And obviously you have to do a
1:11:41
bit of singing and whatever, so you need to be a bit of a
1:11:45
performer. But I love that type of
1:11:46
character. So I'd love a Bard in mythos.
1:11:49
And I think we deserve one, definitely at this point.
1:11:53
I think a part would be a really fun character to get.
1:11:56
Just having the loot in there would be just so cool.
1:12:00
Oh yeah, some other. It could be a heart, but the
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loot feels like the proper one, doesn't it?
1:12:04
Yeah, exactly. And you know, bag at your bag of
1:12:07
coins and you know, your, your or your little case and your
1:12:11
kind of your little coin accessories, you know, like what
1:12:15
is the currency in mythos? Do we know it?
1:12:17
I don't think we've put. No.
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So maybe this is time to introduce the mythos currency.
1:12:24
Yeah. And then we can get some
1:12:26
collector coins in mythos books. Mythos dollars.
1:12:33
Mythos dollar. You do?
1:12:35
Yeah. So.
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And that's our predictions anymore Mal before we.
1:12:40
No, I was just saying I struggled to it towards the end.
1:12:43
Well, not towards the end. All those came to me very
1:12:45
quickly. It was then like how?
1:12:48
Do we join it up? Yeah.
1:12:50
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm pretty happy with my
1:12:53
predictions that I'm. Totally excited, so we'll be
1:12:57
back next week to talk about what actually happened.
1:13:00
And how wrong to? Tell you the truth and which,
1:13:06
which would be fun. And then the following week, my
1:13:09
plan is to have a little episode where we interview some of our
1:13:14
$10 and a patrons, but their opinion about what they saw.
1:13:18
So trying to arrange all those interviews in the next week and,
1:13:22
and that'll be a fun episode as well.
1:13:24
So, and if you're one of those people, obviously, uh, I'll be
1:13:26
in touch to arrange a date and time, uh, at your convenience,
1:13:30
hopefully. Uh, so, yeah, that's it from us.
1:13:34
Uh, we miss you, Rich. We had the kids to replace you
1:13:37
at the start. You know, they were on your
1:13:39
intellectual level, I hope. Oh, no, we need to say Rich's
1:13:46
line. I guess it's dense.
1:13:47
You Mal. It was originally you were lying
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to be. Able to stay safe out there,
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everybody. Cheers.
1:13:56
Enjoy Friday. Bye.
1:14:22
There we go. We didn't miss Rich, did we?