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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Will We Hear About the 2027 CrossFit Season? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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Well,
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we are live and on remote from Montana
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and Michigan.
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Welcome to the show.
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It's time to ignite.
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Scott's silky smooth voice keeps the vibes
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just right.
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Caroline on the mic wants a star on
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the ice.
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Game's athlete so strong,
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keeps the balance precise.
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And Jamie's in the house.
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The engine full of grip.
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Never backing down.
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Down doesn't know.
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We'll be right back.
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Well, you all know what time it is.
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It's Sunday, Sunday, Sunday night,
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CrossFit talk.
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It sucks when I don't,
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when I don't have the board to do
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that for me.
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So Sunday, Sunday, Sunday sharp.
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I know, I know it's been,
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it's been a bummer day for me.
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I will just say that, um,
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Damn,
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like I've been in a funk ever since,
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what, about your time, three-fifty?
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Your time, maybe?
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I was mid-workout,
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so I missed Tyson even getting into the
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game.
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I was deadlifting during the first half,
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so whatever.
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I was three-six.
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And then I missed,
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and then I heard Tyson got in.
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I was like, of course.
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Well, the bummer was,
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it was a shitty game in the rain.
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Neither offense was doing anything.
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The Bears blew so many opportunities to
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score.
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They were inside the one and fumbled.
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It just was a rough game.
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And then when Caleb turned that corner,
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it was like, oh my gosh,
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we're going to go up by four.
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And all of a sudden,
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it looked like someone shot him in the
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back of the leg.
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And he just went down.
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And I like every I went from elation
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to depression in the matter of a
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nanosecond.
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And and then Tyson came in and he
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marched them down the field.
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He got him inside the fifteen with three
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shots at the end zone.
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And yeah.
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I don't know.
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I'm excited to see.
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I know.
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As I look up at the TV above
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me, they show Caleb laying on the ground.
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I mean...
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That makes me excited for Tyson, though.
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I mean,
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we don't know how bad his hamstring is.
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I'm going to be completely blunt.
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I love Tyson Bajent.
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I love his story.
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I love that he's a CrossFitter.
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I love all that stuff.
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I think he's the best backup quarterback
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in the league,
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and I'm glad we have him.
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But Caleb is special.
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The Bears have never had a quarterback
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that was special before.
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When the best quarterback they've ever had
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in my lifetime is Jay Cutler,
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you're like reaching for anything decent.
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I mean,
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even the Lions had Matthew Stafford for
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ten years.
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Like,
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we have never had anything remotely
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special.
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And to finally have that,
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to finally have it and then watch it
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just fall away today was...
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Last week, fifty nine points,
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total elation.
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Think that we're good.
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We have a shot at the Super Bowl
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to this week.
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The defense actually played good.
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And then the offense just couldn't get
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anything going.
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And they made so many mistakes,
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so many drop balls.
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And then Caleb going down with the injury.
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And the thing is, like,
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people are texting me and like, yay,
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Tyson.
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Well, yeah, but boo,
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my greatest quarterback ever in Bears
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history goes down.
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and and then like they're also texting me
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like i don't it doesn't matter it doesn't
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matter the only way i'm gonna root for
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the bears is of tyson's plane so i
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get it it's your team for me it's
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just about seeing tyson play so
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I know.
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And in the CrossFit space,
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which is most of the people that I
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follow or follow me on social media are
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DMing me.
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And I love that they're interested in my
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interests.
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But like today,
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I just I don't care about Tyson.
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I will care about Tyson on Tuesday when
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they start to prep for next week.
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But today I just don't.
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And everybody's like, well,
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he's only out two to four weeks.
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Nobody knows that.
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Nobody follows the bears as much as I
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follow the bears.
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And they do not know where this is
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going.
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Yeah, it's a hamstring.
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It's not an Achilles.
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It's not a knee, which was first thought.
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But if it is, if it is,
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it's a hamstring,
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it can be a severe hamstring tear that
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could require surgery.
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We don't know any of that till they
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get the MRI tomorrow.
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So anyway, Tyson is a fun story.
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But besides that he is a backup and
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that you hope he can get you to
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five hundred while Caleb is out.
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I think so.
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I think the Tyson is like Jared Goff
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and I'm probably not giving Jared Goff
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enough credit.
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Tyson is more mobile than Jared Goff.
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Yeah.
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And Goff is more accurate thrower than
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Tyson.
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But Ben Johnson did amazing things with
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Jared Goff.
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And, like,
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there is the potential that Tyson could do
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amazing things in this offense because he
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is super smart.
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And Ben Johnson raves about how much he,
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like –
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just is a sponge to the offense and
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the as much film study as he does
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and all of that stuff and that's that's
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great today i just i'm pissed that caleb's
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out because caleb can do things no other
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quarterbacks can do maybe josh allen and
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that's and you've got to be sitting there
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going i'm a lions fan and it just
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makes it easier for us when we play
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yeah
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So I get it.
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There are two sides to every coin.
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Right.
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But literally in my lifetime,
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and I saw someone say Jim McMahon was
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special.
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I think Jim McMahon was special.
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He got hurt so much in the short
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time he was in the NFL.
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I don't know.
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He was on a special team.
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The eighty five Bears were one of the
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greatest you ever saw.
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But I don't know if it was offense
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that won them that Super Bowl.
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So I don't know.
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I love Jim McMahon.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I'm just I'm in a bummer mood today.
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It was not a great weekend of sports
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for me as well.
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Yeah, at least Penn State won yesterday.
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And then my wife and daughter were here
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in Montana.
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My daughter is a Patriots fan.
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My wife is a Steelers fan.
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So my daughter was just rubbing it in
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that the Patriots just put the paddle to
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the, I don't know.
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The podcast I always watch,
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they call it paddle to ass when like
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you're, and that's what it was.
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Yes.
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So, yeah.
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And then I'm probably going to lose my
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bet to Meg,
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so I'm probably going to end up wearing
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a Packers jersey on the air in a
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week or two.
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My fantasy team is trash.
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I've got a zero shot.
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Well, I lost Caleb.
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I lost DJ Moore, Saquon Barkley.
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All three of them went out with injury
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today or on Thursday night,
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giving me not many points.
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You kind of need hamstrings in football.
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Kind of.
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Kind of.
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So anyway,
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you have been rearranging your gym and it
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looks like... No,
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I haven't been rearranging my gym.
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I haven't done anything.
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I'm just trying to reset the damn robot
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vacuum.
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It's ridiculous.
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it like will not map the front part
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of our gym.
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Like if there's just this,
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this by square foot area that it just,
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it just will not find it's wide open
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space and it just will not map it.
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And I am getting so frustrated.
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Yeah.
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We had a robot vacuum for a little
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while and Walter just wouldn't let it be.
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And so we had to,
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we had to bag that.
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it could be so helpful if i could
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get it to run consistently i just i
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always have to run it and be there
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and like move it and i want to
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set the zones and like run it overnight
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and i just i've been trying to like
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i reset it to remap the floor to
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try to get that and put in like
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you know virtual walls and where not to
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go and stuff and i just it won't
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it doesn't even have the
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floor like i can't even put in virtual
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walls not even doesn't even have the whole
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floor it's crazy uh tessa you're the one
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that always hears noise i don't know what
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you're hearing because i don't hear it at
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all and i'm not eating anything it might
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be you're like off your shirt with it
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it might be the mic bouncing yeah yeah
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i can hold it for now
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So yeah, we're on the road.
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I don't have an extra screen.
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I don't have,
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so like pulling up stuff is going to
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be really hard tonight.
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So yeah,
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fake Siobhan doesn't hear anything either.
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Maybe Tessa just has like bionic woman
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ears.
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Now Carolyn's fan on her computer,
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I definitely hear.
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That was, yes, we heard that.
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um so yeah see it's been it's been
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a fun weekend so far we got here
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on wednesday to great falls montana um and
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we had an earthquake uh we had a
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guy fart at a table in front of
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us at a restaurant oh my gosh like
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loud oh like full bore i talked about
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it on thursday thursday no i don't know
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yeah thursday show um
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yeah it was it was i heard it
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once and i was like i thought it
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was someone moving their chair right and
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then i saw the guy lift a cheek
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and then i heard it again and he
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just kept talking like nothing had ever
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happened in the table in front of us
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and then my daughter and wife lost their
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in the middle of dinner they could not
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stop laughing and he had no clue they
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were laughing
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Well, his back was to us.
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So we were out on like a patio
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and it was picnic table seating.
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So like he was at the picnic table
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in front of us.
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Um, but yeah, it was wild, wild.
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That's crazy.
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And then Friday night we went down to
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that's a place called Craig, Montana,
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populationally, like, and, uh,
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it's a lake.
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And then Corey's company owns a
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restaurant.
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They bought this restaurant out there and,
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uh,
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And it's like an old saloon,
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but they've made it into this restaurant
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where you come in and you sit down.
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And for that night,
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they have a menu and you don't really
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order.
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You just sit down and this is what
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is served to you.
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And it was really cool and really,
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really nice.
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But all of the food that got served
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is stuff Julie would never eat.
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Oh, boy.
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And we kind of forced her to eat
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and she actually enjoyed it.
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that's one way to try new things so
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we had lamb chop lollipops to start and
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they were grilled with a chimichurri sauce
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i swear to god i if they had
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a ladle for that chimichurri sauce i would
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have like just gobbled it up and um
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and then it then they had tuna yellowfin
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tuna tacos
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With a Spanish rice and this corn on
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the cob that had like a crema on
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it with seasonings.
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It was so, so nice and so good.
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That's awesome.
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The nicest part is that Corey's employee
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discount applies at the restaurant.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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That's great.
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So yeah, Katie, I'm with you.
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You give me a good and chimichurri seems
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to be it's so fresh with like the
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greenery in it.
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And it's so good.
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So good.
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And then we've just kind of chilled out
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and just spent time together the last
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couple of days.
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Corey cooked us some meals and it's been
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really nice.
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And she's getting to be a really good
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cook and she's all into like growing her
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own vegetables and making sourdough and
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all that stuff.
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So like, yeah.
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So we had a lot of like fresh
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food that she has grown and yeah,
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it was all, it's been awesome.
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How's the weather there?
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Uh, it's really, I, it's up and down.
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Like right now it's probably.
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And so yesterday was.
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And rainy.
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Gotcha.
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So kind of Michigan.
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And then at night it gets like down
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in the forties.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So like colder than Ohio.
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But it's like every day is different,
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which is like Ohio right now, too.
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Once you get into fall,
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like it's very unpredictable.
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Yeah, it's only been like six weeks here.
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This week, like sixty two.
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Most of the week.
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Yeah, I mean,
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I'm ready for some cooler temperatures.
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When we left Ohio, it was like ninety.
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It is too late in the year to
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be ninety.
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Wow.
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We did not have that.
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Definitely did not get that warm here.
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And it's been raining for like three days
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straight.
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Uh-oh.
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Did I lose you again?
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You got a little robotic.
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It's okay.
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Okay.
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You're good.
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Hotel Wi-Fi, you just never know.
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Anything else we want to talk about?
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I haven't watched any shows except for
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Lanterns.
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Caught up on Lanterns.
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I finished Reacher and that's it.
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I have not.
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I have not.
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We've been too busy just doing other stuff
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to watch TV.
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KDL.
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It's still in the nineties in the
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Carolinas.
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We are overcooked over here.
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I'm jealous.
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Cows and CrossFit has tornado warnings.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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I had an earthquake this week.
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I experienced my first little rumble.
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Was it scary?
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Honestly,
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I didn't even really know what it was.
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Okay.
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Because it was only a four point oh.
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Okay.
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So the building shook,
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but I didn't know why until Corey said,
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oh, yeah,
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we had an earthquake this morning.
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I was like, okay.
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Now I know what it was.
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So let's get into it.
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There's supposed to be a major
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announcement on tomorrow's Week in Review
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with Dave Castro.
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Okay.
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According to Boz on his episode with the
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Glinton Things.
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And I'm bringing this up is...
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Yeah, Meredith.
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Four point O is cute,
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coming from a native Southern Californian.
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Yeah.
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I've heard it's not even really an
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earthquake unless it hits five.
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Fair.
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So anyway, major announcement tomorrow,
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Dave Castro's Week in Review.
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And I bring this up because I sent
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you a thing where I saw that Legends
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had posted the dates for a semifinal
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already.
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And I found that pretty peculiar because
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just some people I'm talking to,
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some people know what's going on and some
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people don't.
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And it just seems very, very,
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I don't know what to say.
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I hate the way CrossFit's doing stuff
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right now.
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Right.
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Why do some people know some things and
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some don't?
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Yeah.
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Like,
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why do these people get to know and
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these people have to wait?
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It doesn't make any sense to me.
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I agree.
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Jody, glad to have you.
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It's also upsetting to me that Legends has
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another full semifinal.
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That's the thing.
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You would think out of anyone that would
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be last to know or maybe wait to
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see who all is willing to participate in
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the season as hosts,
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you would think Legends would be towards
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the bottom.
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It just didn't go well last year.
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Others went better.
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There's places to put your money first.
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or put your crossfit in your crossfit my
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question to you is is it because um
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it's in del mar and crossfit wants to
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hold on to that location to be a
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part of the season very possible and i'm
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and i'm not i'm honestly not trying to
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just dog on bob and joe i'm really
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not
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I just don't think,
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I think if you want to run your
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own competition, they're fine.
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Oh yeah.
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But to be a part of the CrossFit
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game season,
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I don't think they take input well.
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I agree.
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And I, and I've heard this in,
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in from several different people at
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different times, different years, even.
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that when input is given,
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it's not always taken.
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I think that only matters to like people
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who like the masters who actually care
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that things are run well.
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And it's not, I wouldn't say fair,
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but like a reasonably represented event.
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And so like, but in CrossFit's mind,
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They're perfect for semifinals.
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Like,
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they got Dalen and James to the games,
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and it was a cool location.
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Like, they don't care.
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Did Dave watch the programming and, like,
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judge it?
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No.
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Did the two of the top fittest people
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make it?
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Yeah.
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In their mind, it went fine.
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Nobody's, like, the problem is there's no,
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like,
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What do they call it?
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The Wolf's Den, the Tate.
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There's no go into the conference room and
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sit down and hash it out, right?
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Like debrief.
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Yeah, there's no debrief for these,
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and there's no figuring out what can we
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change for next year.
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And then CrossFit's mind,
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it went just fine.
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Somebody was willing to throw some money
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at an event,
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and it got two people there, so.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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It's fine, I guess.
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Not optimal, but fine, sort of.
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That's a different take than you said
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here, Grant.
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I think they are a dumpster fire.
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We think they're a dumpster fire,
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but it's fine.
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In CrossFit's mind, it's fine.
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They probably don't even want to
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collaborate.
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They probably don't want to debrief.
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They don't want to go back and figure
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out what they can fix because that's just
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more work on CrossFit's part.
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Yeah, I don't, unfortunately, I just,
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I think,
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I think CrossFit has like wiped their
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hands up this middle part.
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I think in twenty, twenty four,
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when they stopped running the semifinals,
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the more hands off the better for them.
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Yeah.
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In CrossFit mind.
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Yeah.
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Whether that's good,
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whether that is truly good or not better
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or not, that's up for debate,
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but it crosses fine.
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The more hands off the better.
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Yes, I totally agree.
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That's how they feel.
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They don't want me in power.
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They don't want,
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they don't want to spend time, hours,
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energy.
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Definitely don't want to spend money in
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that area.
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Right.
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Money or resources.
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Correct.
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Right.
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So whatever gets them off the hook from,
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for those things, the most, um,
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is what the is the path they are
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going to choose unfortunately and and so
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because of this is our thoughts and and
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it has been our thoughts for a while
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seeing them get the dates first just
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seemed like and i don't know if others
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have got the dates already or not but
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they're the only ones that
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And again,
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it's just like CrossFit has made no
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announcement,
24:42
but Legends is just going to go about
24:44
it on their own,
24:45
and they're going to post it anyway.
24:50
Screw an announcement.
24:51
We're just going to put it on our
24:52
Instagram.
24:55
Yeah, it's a little strange.
24:57
I mean, it's in what, April?
24:59
It's an early one,
25:00
so do they need to have dates fairly
25:04
soon?
25:05
Yes.
25:06
But it should be...
25:08
But if you know about it and CrossFit
25:10
hasn't made the announcement and all of
25:12
your venues in place and all the stuff
25:14
is in place,
25:15
why do you need to announce it before
25:17
CrossFit?
25:17
Good question.
25:24
It's just a perfect example of the way
25:27
the semifinal season is run.
25:30
Yes.
25:30
Completely agree.
25:40
I did hear, though,
25:42
that the Masters online semifinals is
25:45
going to happen at the end of the
25:47
semifinal season, like the Elites.
25:50
So they think they're going to still try
25:51
to go this in-person route?
25:55
I think so.
26:02
I like it.
26:05
I like it for a couple of reasons.
26:08
One,
26:10
all the people that aren't at your and
26:13
Carolyn's level that got an opportunity to
26:15
go and participate in what they deem to
26:18
be a big event was huge for them.
26:26
And you need something to retain people
26:30
other than elite athletes to the CrossFit
26:32
game season,
26:33
or you're going to have no money.
26:37
I'm sick of them relying on the Masters
26:40
community to support the sport, though.
26:44
And I wish the Masters would...
26:48
If Legends is going to host their event
26:51
off-season, I think that... Again,
26:54
I've said this.
26:55
It's a great off-season comp.
26:57
It's a great feeder comp.
26:59
And the Masters should participate in
27:01
things like that.
27:03
That's where they should get the
27:04
experience.
27:06
I don't think throwing them into the
27:09
semifinals just to bump up numbers,
27:12
just to bring in down to five hundred
27:14
place just to get money is is the
27:16
right call.
27:16
But.
27:23
And hear me out.
27:25
So someone like Shelly Young,
27:26
who went to semifinals last year,
27:29
would not have had that opportunity in the
27:30
past.
27:31
Probably wouldn't even have the
27:33
opportunity to go to Legends because of
27:35
the qualifier for them.
27:36
But who knows?
27:37
They don't pay anything out anymore.
27:39
So the less and less people are doing
27:40
it.
27:41
I don't know.
27:42
But she got to do it.
27:44
It was fairly close to her home.
27:46
She got to have an experience that was
27:49
huge for her.
27:53
And it's okay to make some money.
27:57
We're just bumping up the elite season.
27:59
That's all we do.
28:02
Nothing is provided for us.
28:04
Well,
28:04
I'm not looking at it as a whole.
28:06
I'm just looking at it as you asked
28:08
about,
28:08
are they doing the in-person semis for
28:10
Masters?
28:11
I think that's a good idea.
28:13
Do I think that the way they did
28:15
it in the season and the way it
28:16
played out was right?
28:18
Absolutely not.
28:22
But in isolation,
28:24
I think that an in-person semi for Masters
28:26
can be a good thing.
28:30
But not at the expense of dumbing down
28:34
the games to be a local gym comp.
28:39
Like,
28:40
it sucks that Magic City was a better
28:43
competition for Masters athletes than the
28:46
actual games were.
28:52
And that can't happen, in my opinion.
28:56
It probably will again,
28:58
but that can't happen.
29:03
Yeah,
29:04
I'm curious to hear what Dave has to
29:07
say.
29:08
I have very low expectations that it's
29:12
going to be anything groundbreaking or...
29:18
new or exciting.
29:19
I think it's going to be a very
29:21
basic announcement with some dates.
29:26
I don't know.
29:27
I have zero expectations for the season
29:30
this year.
29:32
I guess we'll see what they do if
29:33
they separate the Masters completely.
29:35
Are they going back to their own weekend
29:37
and own venue?
29:42
I'd rather have that than what we saw
29:43
last year.
29:45
Correct.
29:47
You don't bring them together to keep them
29:50
separate.
29:51
Either keep them separate or bring them
29:53
together.
29:56
Because being there as a spectator,
30:00
it was definitely two separate events.
30:02
And all it did was point out to
30:04
the age group athletes that they were
30:07
different.
30:09
And that they were off over in this
30:10
corner and doing their thing.
30:13
And nobody from CrossFit gave two shits
30:15
about them.
30:15
Yep.
30:17
Yeah,
30:17
you were allowed to come in for the
30:19
opening ceremonies.
30:20
They didn't even say who won the events.
30:22
Right.
30:23
They didn't play a single highlight of
30:24
what happened from the Masters
30:27
competition.
30:28
Not one time.
30:35
Yeah.
30:36
I'll be watching YouTube during the day
30:38
and lately like.
30:40
Twenty seventeen twenty eighteen twenty
30:42
nineteen.
30:43
Games events have been coming on and.
30:46
surprisingly and i like i don't pick this
30:48
stuff just randomly whatever comes in um
30:50
i've been seeing a ton of teens and
30:54
like i've just watched hayley adams do run
30:59
rope climb something else um workout that
31:04
she won i've just been seeing a ton
31:07
of the teens i saw the one in
31:08
the
31:10
in the age group stadium there, you know,
31:12
at Madison,
31:13
that was that back barn basically.
31:16
Um, it's just, you're,
31:18
you're watching it and you're like, man,
31:21
those were the days.
31:22
Like there's more people in the stands
31:25
watching those events.
31:28
Then there,
31:29
then there were like some of the like
31:33
individual games,
31:34
like definitely more than are at semi,
31:37
like semifinals and, um,
31:40
WFP and lots of events.
31:43
Some of the early individual games events
31:47
had about the same amount,
31:49
even from this year,
31:50
had about the same amount of people in
31:51
the stands at these events.
31:55
That's why those were the heydays.
31:58
Everyone was there.
31:59
They just were there,
32:00
so they watched other stuff.
32:03
You caught people's eyes to these teens
32:06
and these masters.
32:08
That was the beauty of the festival
32:10
ticket.
32:10
Yes.
32:14
Without the festival ticket,
32:15
you don't get that experience anymore.
32:20
It was a ninety to ninety nine dollar
32:22
ticket for the weekend.
32:24
You didn't get into the arena,
32:26
but everything outdoors was open to you.
32:28
That meant vendor village.
32:31
That meant the beer garden.
32:32
That meant all the food vendors and the
32:36
age group athletes and the outdoor events
32:39
for the elite athletes.
32:42
All of that.
32:43
And there were activations.
32:45
There were things that you could do.
32:47
Hell, by the end of Madison,
32:50
Mayhem ran a full weekend long activation
32:53
in the campground.
32:54
Proven was running one in a barn.
32:59
They were everywhere.
33:04
I want to address two things that came
33:05
up.
33:05
CrossFit-ish.
33:07
Why aren't teens with masters anymore?
33:11
Well, this is something I want to explain,
33:14
and it's more on the back end.
33:18
When you have underage individuals,
33:20
the insurances are different.
33:23
The requirements for holding the
33:25
competition are different.
33:28
And so as that was explained to me,
33:32
it makes more sense to me to hand
33:34
all that stuff to Pitt,
33:37
who know how to deal with that,
33:40
Now in Madison, they found a way, right?
33:43
And it's probably because they could have
33:45
a separate locker room for them.
33:47
They could have separate areas for the
33:49
teens to warm up where they weren't with
33:53
the elite athletes.
33:57
But that was explained to me very recently
34:00
that the legality and the insurance issues
34:04
with teen athletes is very high.
34:09
They did it just fine in Columbus.
34:14
It wasn't just fine, though.
34:15
Like,
34:15
they had to shut down the warm-up area
34:18
that coaches weren't even allowed in there
34:20
because of the teens.
34:23
Well,
34:23
coaches weren't allowed in the warm-up
34:25
area for the Masters this year.
34:28
See,
34:33
I wasn't in the warm-up area at all
34:34
this year.
34:35
Yeah,
34:35
there was no coaches allowed on the floor.
34:39
In Birmingham,
34:41
there was a fence that the coaches could
34:44
stand around.
34:45
They couldn't be where the weights and
34:47
stuff were,
34:48
but at least it was where you could
34:50
yell over.
34:52
That was very, very,
34:53
very limited in Columbus.
34:58
I mean, that's how it was in Columbus.
35:00
The thing is, there was two floors,
35:02
two warm-up floors.
35:04
So same idea.
35:06
I, they just like, and, and I mean,
35:09
maybe that's the option there is create a
35:14
second floor, but yeah, they usually,
35:16
they never really let the coaches in on
35:17
the floor.
35:18
You have to stand around behind a
35:19
barricade, but keeping them separate.
35:25
I don't know.
35:26
It worked.
35:26
I think there's a little bit of a
35:28
collaboration issue.
35:30
I think there's a collaboration issue on
35:32
top of that as well.
35:37
um because we we started this conversation
35:40
about joe and bob not taking input right
35:44
and if you're partnering with someone and
35:46
you're not allowed to give input do you
35:49
want to keep yeah i mean it's not
35:54
just their event if you put them together
35:59
then you need to collab with somebody
36:04
And that not taking input,
36:06
I did not get from the pit.
36:08
So please don't read that in to there.
36:11
But I've heard it several different times
36:13
from several different people.
36:18
And to Ken,
36:19
about you saying the Vikings dominated the
36:21
Bears today,
36:22
nine to three is not what I would
36:24
call a dominating victory.
36:26
I will give you the win.
36:28
They won.
36:29
They played better at times,
36:33
but not dominating.
36:37
But a win is a win.
36:43
I mean, that's a great point, too.
36:46
Cross finish.
36:47
They were with adaptive this year.
36:48
They're all adults.
36:49
So what's the difference?
36:53
It can be done.
36:54
Been done.
36:55
Been done plenty of times.
36:57
Got to have the right the right people
36:59
putting it together.
37:06
Ed missed you this morning.
37:07
I don't know what that means, but...
37:09
A live call, programming call.
37:12
I was on.
37:13
I just wasn't chatting.
37:16
You not chatting?
37:18
It was too early.
37:22
It was before noon?
37:24
Yes.
37:24
It was before ten.
37:25
That's the problem.
37:32
CrossFit also announced a partnership
37:35
with...
37:35
recently with ATHX, A-T-H-X.
37:41
Yeah.
37:44
So it seems like what's funny is when
37:49
I made up the thumbnail for this and
37:50
I made up the notes for this,
37:53
I was thinking like they've partnered with
37:55
Xenon and they've partnered with ATHX now
38:00
as a way to, in my opinion,
38:02
compete with High Rocks.
38:04
right?
38:04
Give a CrossFit option of the one day
38:07
event.
38:08
Ethics is even more, um, one day-ish.
38:14
It's only three events where Xenom is ten
38:18
and it's a full weekend.
38:20
Um, this is just one endurance workout,
38:24
one weightlifting workout,
38:26
one CrossFit workout.
38:31
And, uh,
38:33
And so I find it interesting that these
38:35
partnerships are now starting to pop up.
38:38
But then after I put this in the
38:40
notes, I saw a clip from,
38:44
I think his name's Walsh.
38:45
He wrote the Glass book that's coming out
38:49
in the next week or so.
38:50
Okay.
38:52
It's the book about Greg Glassman.
38:54
Okay.
38:55
And he was on Be Friendly Fitness.
38:58
And the clip said that CrossFit is so
39:02
toxic right now.
39:03
And I'm paraphrasing.
39:04
Paraphrasing.
39:05
Because I'm doing this from memory because
39:07
I can't pull up clips right now.
39:10
That CrossFit is so toxic that Xenom
39:13
doesn't even mention the partnership
39:15
anymore.
39:20
And I was like.
39:22
Was this the clip on Jenny's?
39:25
Yeah, she clipped it too.
39:27
It's Kayla Marsh, isn't it?
39:29
Kayla Marsh.
39:30
That's it.
39:30
Yep.
39:31
Okay.
39:31
Yeah.
39:34
It's really hard to do the show with
39:35
one screen.
39:36
I'm just telling you.
39:40
I did see that.
39:40
I heard that.
39:41
Yeah.
39:42
They're better off not basically
39:44
associating.
39:44
It almost hurts the image.
39:47
Yeah.
39:50
Yeah.
39:53
Katie L says, anymore,
39:54
we've had exactly two Xenoms.
39:57
It's with the next dude.
39:58
Come on.
39:59
You know better than that.
40:01
And two,
40:02
Miami's coming up in the coming weeks.
40:05
So that'll be three.
40:06
And I have it from a very good
40:08
source that next year is going to be
40:10
a lot bigger than this year.
40:16
Several weeks.
40:17
It's like mid-December, right?
40:19
Like two months away.
40:21
know like i'm on vacation it's like three
40:24
months away i think okay we have never
40:31
ever claimed to be professional ever we're
40:36
just people chatting every sunday night
40:39
because we love this stuff um
40:45
So yeah,
40:46
like I wanted to get your take on
40:47
that.
40:49
One, the developing another partnership.
40:52
I think that's good.
40:55
Yeah.
40:55
Developing.
40:56
I, I like that.
40:58
They, well,
40:59
that they need to be branching out and
41:01
they need to be collabing with people and
41:03
bringing.
41:06
It sucks.
41:07
I feel like these are still very CrossFit
41:09
centric events.
41:12
I don't know that you're going to bring
41:13
in anyone new with any of this stuff.
41:15
Like,
41:16
Especially Xenom,
41:17
I think it's just geared for the
41:23
competitive gym goer that maybe can't make
41:26
the semifinals.
41:27
And that's a fairly small population.
41:29
It's an expensive event.
41:31
You have to really want to compete and
41:33
not quite be able to make it somewhere
41:35
else.
41:40
Yeah,
41:41
and I don't know enough about the ethics
41:45
to know.
41:48
I know Emily Rolfe did one.
41:49
I talked to her at length about how
41:51
it was.
41:52
And I got the impression she wasn't –
41:58
she was kind of underwhelmed.
42:00
But you're talking about an athlete who's
42:02
been to the games and been to WFP
42:05
and been to Wadapalooza,
42:07
like –
42:08
So I don't know from like a Jimmy's
42:10
and Joe's kind of thing.
42:12
Is it, is it a fun,
42:15
fun event or not?
42:16
I would totally do an ethics.
42:19
If there was one close,
42:22
easy to get to,
42:23
I'm certainly not flying or driving.
42:26
To try to go do an ethics.
42:29
If there's one close,
42:31
I would totally do it.
42:31
Um,
42:34
They were smart to do one the week
42:36
after Waterpalooza when people hadn't left
42:39
yet.
42:40
Yeah.
42:43
So their timing was really good on that.
42:46
I just, I don't know.
42:48
It'd be cool to see if they are
42:49
doing one after SoCal,
42:51
like all the people there and like throw
42:54
one up that weekend or the Monday after
42:57
or something.
42:57
Yeah.
43:01
I just don't know how you get somebody
43:05
to try it and love it and want
43:08
to go do this same event.
43:10
Did you see Hayley Adams' post about her
43:13
High Rocks race?
43:14
No.
43:16
Oh, she's all in.
43:21
She said it was awesome.
43:23
She actually wants to train for one and
43:26
she will be good at it.
43:27
Yeah, that's all the stuff she's good at.
43:32
that's huge for high rocks.
43:34
We like, we need the opposite to happen.
43:36
Well, they need some good news.
43:43
Oh, go check her post.
43:45
She's like super,
43:47
she's super hype about it.
43:50
What I, what I was saying,
43:51
I probably cut out is that, um,
43:55
they need some good news.
43:56
Yeah.
43:58
Because the rumor is the Dallas High
44:01
Rocks, people are selling their tickets.
44:04
Really?
44:05
They're like boycotting over the shit
44:07
show?
44:08
Yep.
44:09
Wow.
44:10
I'm shocked.
44:12
Yeah.
44:13
Again, that's rumor.
44:15
I don't know anybody at High Rocks or
44:17
a ticket exchange to know.
44:20
I just heard that rumor through the
44:23
circles.
44:29
Maybe it might not be huge for high
44:31
racks,
44:31
but they just keep getting people hype.
44:36
Who do we get to come do something
44:37
and then sit there and hype it up
44:40
and post on their social media that they
44:42
did this.
44:42
They've caught the bug.
44:43
They love it.
44:44
Like other than Tyson,
44:45
a couple of years ago,
44:46
talking about CrossFit,
44:48
we get no social media around.
44:50
Like we get Tom Holland saying he did
44:52
the, now it's the Spider-Man workout.
44:53
We don't even get media around people
44:56
doing CrossFit and saying,
44:58
this is freaking awesome.
44:59
I'm all in.
45:04
That's my pet peeve.
45:05
Like there have been ample opportunities
45:09
to capitalize.
45:11
I said this earlier this week,
45:13
like the winners of the Titan games were
45:16
two CrossFitters and not a mention was
45:19
named.
45:20
And I said,
45:21
and everybody's coming at me like,
45:23
what's that?
45:24
Cause they can't say CrossFit.
45:26
Then say, Hey,
45:29
There was this competition on NBC where
45:31
they weren't allowed to say our name,
45:33
but our people won it.
45:36
You can twist that into some form of
45:39
marketing.
45:41
Don't just give up.
45:44
Overcome the hurdle.
45:46
Stop telling people they can't use the
45:48
name.
45:49
When you send two CrossFit athletes to
45:51
a...
45:52
syndicated TV show,
45:54
like tell them to say CrossFit.
45:57
Don't tell them they're going to get in
45:58
trouble for using the word CrossFit.
46:01
Tell the world that you do CrossFit.
46:04
Danny was on American Gladiators.
46:08
She was the best gladiator by far.
46:11
She did have CrossFit in her bio.
46:14
And have you seen anything from CrossFit
46:16
about Danny Spiegel being on American
46:18
Gladiator?
46:21
No.
46:23
No.
46:24
Physical, one hundred.
46:26
All the winners are CrossFitters.
46:29
Right.
46:33
I did see they maybe have gotten, like,
46:36
it'll be written that they are a
46:38
CrossFitter.
46:39
I have seen maybe CrossFit relaxed on that
46:43
a little bit.
46:45
But don't just relax.
46:47
Get off your ass and use it.
46:49
Yep.
46:54
Yeah, this is...
46:58
I know he's kind of saying it as
47:00
a joke, but this is so damn true.
47:03
They are more worried about keeping the
47:05
base than going out and bringing people
47:07
from the outside in.
47:14
Everything is go back to the roots,
47:15
go back to the roots,
47:16
go back to the roots.
47:21
Okay, Best Buy, or not Best Buy, but
47:25
Blockbuster,
47:28
wither up and die then because Netflix
47:32
kicked your ass because you didn't develop
47:36
and change.
47:42
It's just, it's so frustrating to me.
47:46
And everybody's like, well,
47:47
when Dave's answer was,
47:49
we reached out to Tom Holland's people and
47:53
we couldn't get through.
47:56
It's on social media.
47:57
You didn't even share him saying it.
48:03
Because he said, I do CrossFit.
48:05
I do this workout called Cindy.
48:09
And CrossFit didn't even grab that and
48:12
share it.
48:13
Right.
48:14
Right.
48:14
Like we needed to grab it.
48:16
We needed to blast it.
48:18
and make it go viral that it's CrossFit
48:20
rather than it just getting shared and
48:25
then it's viral that it's the Spider-Man
48:26
workout.
48:26
It's gone the wrong way.
48:32
He put it out there.
48:33
It was public information.
48:35
You can use that to show that people
48:39
are doing this.
48:42
You want to get in a spandex Spider-Man
48:44
outfit?
48:45
What gets you there?
48:45
CrossFit.
48:56
But I'm going to be real.
48:57
Even I tried to get a hold of
48:58
Tom Holland at least thirty seven times.
49:01
And that's why you have a restraining
49:03
order.
49:10
Dave needs to tell his operatives to feed
49:11
him info on the world outside of CrossFit.
49:14
They've got the critics locked down pretty
49:16
well.
49:17
I think the most frustrating thing was
49:19
Patrick Wilson for me,
49:21
who is on the show Cape Fear,
49:22
who did CrossFit on an episode of Cape
49:25
Fear.
49:28
And his technique was impeccable.
49:32
Oh.
49:33
And CrossFit did nothing about it.
49:36
And he went and did a High Rocks.
49:39
And before the weekend was over,
49:41
High Rocks had shared a whole reel of
49:45
him doing all the different elements of
49:47
High Rocks.
49:49
And Patrick Wilson collaborated with them.
49:53
Patrick Wilson and his eight hundred
49:55
thousand followers collaborated.
49:59
Now,
49:59
now I want to go do High Rocks.
50:01
That's the thing.
50:01
Hayley Adams has a lot of followers.
50:05
That's the thing.
50:08
That's what I'm telling you.
50:10
It's all out there and they just let
50:12
it all go by him.
50:19
Let's, let's send out people to,
50:21
to remake a behind the scenes that Hiller
50:23
already did.
50:26
Let's go send people out to do a
50:28
behind the scenes of a video that the
50:30
boys interrupted already did.
50:40
Well,
50:40
Tyson Bajan is now the starting
50:42
quarterback of the Chicago Bears.
50:43
He's not a backup anymore.
50:46
How fast do you think CrossFit will get
50:48
anything out about that?
50:54
That should be shared all the next two
50:56
weeks.
50:57
At least all week.
50:59
You know he's going to be playing on
51:00
Saturday, Sunday.
51:01
When are they playing?
51:01
Sunday?
51:03
Monday night.
51:05
Monday night football.
51:07
What about that opportunity?
51:09
Yeah,
51:10
they need to be sharing that all week.
51:11
That clip needs to be shared all week.
51:19
Can we?
51:19
Yeah, I saw you had what?
51:21
I don't know,
51:22
seven hundred cards or something
51:23
ridiculous.
51:25
Oh, he has more than seven hundred.
51:27
Oh,
51:27
he has seven hundred Tyson Beijing cards.
51:29
Yes.
51:37
Hiller will probably be at that game
51:39
somehow in the back.
51:40
It is in Soldier Field,
51:42
so it's in Chicago.
51:51
Well, Scott,
51:52
if you don't like how they run the
51:53
media,
51:53
I hear there is a job position open.
51:55
They haven't posted it.
51:58
Really?
51:58
They have not posted the CMO position.
52:04
They posted the CFO position.
52:08
But not the CMO.
52:10
They must have somebody in mind.
52:16
It's not happening, I don't believe.
52:19
Yeah,
52:19
because we don't need anything running
52:22
media, anybody running media.
52:25
No CMO, got it.
52:27
Well, that's brilliant.
52:31
That's what I feel like.
52:32
It might already be filled.
52:35
I don't think it's already filled.
52:37
I think they're going to contract people.
52:40
Yes.
52:41
But who,
52:42
who in the hell is going to pick
52:44
who to contract and who the hell is
52:46
going to make sure that they touch on
52:48
all these things that none of them watch
52:51
because their heads are so far up their
52:53
ass.
52:53
Bruce.
53:02
I don't know.
53:05
Who knows?
53:08
What's the difference, Grant?
53:10
What is the difference between head of
53:11
media and CMO?
53:16
It's semantics.
53:17
A C?
53:20
One says marketing and one says media.
53:23
No C-suite.
53:31
I'm just...
53:32
I would think it'd be the pay.
53:35
It's your company.
53:37
You're a private company.
53:38
It doesn't matter what the title says.
53:40
You can pay it whatever you want to
53:41
pay it.
53:47
Correct.
53:48
You set the price.
53:49
It's your damn company.
53:55
Well,
53:55
I think they've set the price too high
53:56
for most of their management roles.
54:03
Again, it's their company.
54:06
They can do a twenty five percent pay
54:08
cut across the board if they felt that
54:09
was necessary.
54:14
But apparently they don't know what the
54:15
hell they're doing.
54:22
It's this like.
54:26
Anybody with a basic,
54:28
basic business degree would know that's
54:30
just that's just dumb.
54:35
Yeah.
54:36
Let's not invest in media or marketing.
54:42
That's, that's a way to succeed.
54:46
It's been really working well for them.
54:53
Yeah.
54:53
I don't talk to Vicki about anything on
54:55
her job.
54:59
But in her position,
55:02
the position titles do mean more money or
55:04
less money.
55:06
And that's the crux of the problem.
55:12
Oh, they're getting ads on the shows.
55:18
I can't stand when that happens when I'm
55:19
watching live.
55:21
That has been happening so much lately.
55:26
YouTube has changed everything.
55:30
It shouldn't happen live.
55:32
I don't get to control any of that.
55:36
I don't understand it.
55:39
It's been happening to me a lot lately.
55:42
I pay for the premium because I can't
55:44
stand the ads.
55:45
I'm about to.
55:47
They're pushing me to that point.
55:50
I'm stubborn.
55:52
I literally watch YouTube more than any
55:54
other streaming service.
55:57
Me too.
55:58
That's all I'm ever on.
55:59
So to me,
56:00
I will pay the twelve ninety five to
56:02
not have ads.
56:03
I already pay for YouTube TV like that's
56:06
like I feel like if I have YouTube
56:08
TV,
56:09
I should have free free YouTube premium.
56:12
How is that not coincided?
56:14
It's like I already pay eighty five
56:15
dollars a month.
56:18
Yeah, that'd be great.
56:21
There's a comment box.
56:22
You can just drop that in.
56:29
Ed's offering to split the cost with you.
56:34
Can we watch on two devices at the
56:38
same time?
56:41
Probably not something we should discuss
56:43
on the air.
56:46
I'm sure they're going to flag it.
56:54
YouTube TV is not cheap.
56:55
It's ridiculous.
56:58
Yeah.
56:59
I got rid of all my streaming services.
57:00
I know.
57:07
And I'm hoping to help you out too
57:08
in the near future.
57:13
Um,
57:13
so what a Palooza SoCal is this coming
57:15
weekend.
57:16
Yeah.
57:17
The teams have been announced.
57:18
Does it start Friday?
57:21
I think it's Friday through Sunday.
57:23
Okay.
57:26
Um,
57:29
The first question I'm going to ask is
57:30
who you think is going to win?
57:34
I think OutKast is going to win.
57:40
I don't know.
57:41
Proven on paper, but I just think,
57:47
I don't know.
57:48
I'm going to side with OutKast.
57:53
I'm going to side with Proven.
57:54
Okay.
57:56
And the reason I'm going to do that
57:57
was another question on our rundown.
57:59
And that is Ariel was on with Alex
58:04
Kazan the other night on Girls Unfiltered.
58:09
And she said that she was captain because
58:12
DB and Ellie don't get along.
58:15
So neither one of them could have been
58:17
a captain before.
58:20
And so she just was the logical choice.
58:23
And again, I'm paraphrasing.
58:25
I can't pull up clips.
58:27
So my question is, does,
58:30
if they do not,
58:31
we know they had a bike accident incident
58:34
at the games that DB was not happy
58:37
with how it went.
58:41
So does it matter in a team competition
58:45
that if the,
58:45
do the players need to get along?
58:50
Um, no, it could,
58:57
it could provide them a little more fire.
58:59
Like it totally depends on the event,
59:02
like the specific workout.
59:03
If there's,
59:07
if there's some synchronization that must
59:10
happen and they start,
59:11
something goes off and they start
59:12
bickering, I can see shit falling apart.
59:15
But there is also lots of workouts that
59:18
are like male, female, or like,
59:20
waterfall or and i i can see that
59:23
like that wanting to run each other down
59:25
and almost like making it more like not
59:32
only are you trying to be this team
59:34
next year you're also trying to like do
59:36
better than ellie if you're danielle so
59:37
like for the right workout it could be
59:40
okay that's crazy though that makes me
59:44
slightly nervous for their team
59:48
And so my other question to this,
59:50
so you're taking outcasts,
59:51
I'm taking proven and we'll check back
59:55
next week to see how this goes.
59:56
Okay.
59:58
The other piece I wanted to bring up
1:00:01
it one,
1:00:01
the winner gets a hundred and twenty
1:00:03
thousand dollars this year.
1:00:05
Yeah.
1:00:06
So that's twenty grand a person.
1:00:08
That's like what six that the games.
1:00:11
Yeah.
1:00:13
Yeah.
1:00:14
I mean,
1:00:15
I'm being probably a tiny bit facetious,
1:00:17
but... No, it really is.
1:00:24
My first question to you is,
1:00:26
if I'm the out... No,
1:00:27
I'm going to ask the other one first.
1:00:30
Are we getting too many events in the
1:00:32
fall and making it too crowded?
1:00:36
Because they went to four teams,
1:00:37
we now notice people who are not electing
1:00:41
to go.
1:00:45
So Brute didn't get to bring their best
1:00:47
female because she had too much else going
1:00:49
on.
1:00:55
Apparently,
1:00:56
a couple of the Mayhem guys turned it
1:00:58
down as well.
1:01:03
And that's why they couldn't,
1:01:03
Mayhem couldn't,
1:01:05
Mayhem couldn't get a field together
1:01:07
because too many people didn't want to do
1:01:09
it?
1:01:10
Or was Mayhem going to be,
1:01:12
like a couple people would have been on
1:01:13
the outcasts?
1:01:15
A couple people are going to be on
1:01:16
Outcasts.
1:01:17
So Mayhem was never going to be able
1:01:19
to create a team.
1:01:20
Correct.
1:01:20
Gotcha.
1:01:22
And then Alex Kazan revealed that she was
1:01:24
offered the position on the Outcasts that
1:01:27
ended up going to Ariel.
1:01:34
Oh.
1:01:35
Did Alex turn it down?
1:01:37
She did.
1:01:40
Because she wants to win Rogue.
1:01:44
I see.
1:01:49
I that's my biggest issue.
1:01:51
Yes.
1:01:51
I think we're too crowded.
1:01:52
I think,
1:01:53
I think rogue is too close to this.
1:02:01
And WFP,
1:02:01
we have a WFP before and after all
1:02:04
this.
1:02:08
And like I heard Alex say that she
1:02:11
got,
1:02:11
had some FOMO to do the combine at
1:02:14
Indianapolis.
1:02:16
but she just needed some time away.
1:02:20
And Ariel said that she actually had to
1:02:23
like really reset her mindset at WFP
1:02:28
because of doing the games.
1:02:30
And then that so close after,
1:02:35
like she said,
1:02:35
she was just mad at everything when she
1:02:37
got there and she had to like reset
1:02:39
and just focus on having fun and enjoying
1:02:43
the moment.
1:02:46
And I think we're getting so crowded that
1:02:51
we're losing.
1:02:52
And someone said,
1:02:54
how can Brute not be favored?
1:02:56
Any team competition,
1:02:57
it's all about the women.
1:03:00
The gap between the best women and down
1:03:04
the line is much greater than the gap
1:03:07
between the top men.
1:03:11
And that is evident at the games.
1:03:18
So that's why Brute has the top three
1:03:20
men for sure.
1:03:24
For sure.
1:03:25
Yes.
1:03:25
But now they,
1:03:27
and this is no knock on the people
1:03:29
they have, but it's not Amy Kringle,
1:03:33
right?
1:03:33
It's Emma Lawson.
1:03:34
It's Jamie Chevry.
1:03:36
And who's the third?
1:03:41
Eileen Weir's.
1:03:43
Emma's going to crush.
1:03:45
Emma was, would be who you would pick,
1:03:46
but.
1:03:50
heavy, in my opinion.
1:03:52
The weekend is heavy,
1:03:53
and that doesn't suit Eileen Weir as well.
1:03:59
Not when you're going up against people
1:04:00
like Hannah Black and Olivia Kerstetter.
1:04:06
Even people like Annika Greer are strong.
1:04:10
They're small, but they're strong.
1:04:12
Yeah.
1:04:14
I mean,
1:04:15
Annika is like the Colton of the female
1:04:18
division.
1:04:20
like Kyra.
1:04:22
Yeah.
1:04:25
So yeah, I just, I wanted your opinion.
1:04:31
Like, I think we're just getting too much.
1:04:33
Totally agree.
1:04:35
And something's going to break some.
1:04:39
And honestly,
1:04:40
you and I have been to a,
1:04:41
I've been to Waterpalooza in Florida.
1:04:44
I've been to WFP.
1:04:46
I've been to CrossFit stuff.
1:04:51
I I've been to rogue.
1:04:54
Rogue is never gonna die.
1:04:59
Heck no.
1:04:59
They just bringing rogue is just
1:05:06
different,
1:05:06
especially cause they bring the strong men
1:05:07
there.
1:05:09
It's that's good for rogue.
1:05:12
Cause it brings in other viewership for
1:05:14
one.
1:05:16
Yeah.
1:05:17
they and they have a ridiculous amount of
1:05:20
money for price first like people want to
1:05:22
go to that yeah and they cover and
1:05:25
they cover the expenses like it's better
1:05:27
than the games and wfp is the same
1:05:30
way they have a ridiculous amount of money
1:05:32
from top to bottom and the top twenty
1:05:37
are guaranteed money the next year like if
1:05:42
you're looking at this from a financial
1:05:44
standpoint
1:05:47
Like,
1:05:47
Rogue and WFP are where the money is.
1:05:50
You have to win the games to win
1:05:52
money.
1:05:53
Right.
1:05:55
You better be damn sure you can podium
1:05:57
at the games.
1:05:58
And that's a tough ask.
1:06:02
You might think you're third.
1:06:04
Like, shoe in for third and get fourth.
1:06:07
And it's not really a great payday.
1:06:09
Like,
1:06:09
you might have been better off trying to
1:06:11
win WFP.
1:06:11
Yeah, it's...
1:06:18
it's going to be interesting to see how
1:06:19
this develops over the next few years,
1:06:21
because someone said here, I can't,
1:06:24
I don't know who it was that athletes
1:06:26
are going to, Oh,
1:06:27
clock clock cutter said some athletes are
1:06:30
going to break.
1:06:31
Athletes are going to either break or
1:06:33
they're going to make a choice.
1:06:37
Yeah.
1:06:42
And I think,
1:06:43
I think we'll start to see a choice
1:06:44
made.
1:06:45
I mean,
1:06:45
we did see a choice made by the
1:06:48
likes of Galen and Jason, and, you know,
1:06:54
they opted not to do WFP.
1:06:55
And that's fine.
1:06:57
Honestly, like,
1:06:59
I'd rather see those guys that have
1:07:03
established sponsorships and money not
1:07:06
take these spots and get people that need
1:07:09
the exposure and the feet they're
1:07:13
travel budget covered to get to these,
1:07:16
to even have a shot to get some
1:07:17
money.
1:07:18
Like,
1:07:19
I'd rather see these emerging names get a
1:07:21
shot.
1:07:23
What I find funny is, you know,
1:07:24
people are saying Dallin, Jason,
1:07:26
Justin didn't even finish the first WFP
1:07:28
season.
1:07:29
James Sprague did.
1:07:31
And look what that monster has done over
1:07:33
the last year.
1:07:35
I know.
1:07:40
It is...
1:07:42
some will follow the money tessa you're
1:07:44
right you're right and they should what i
1:07:49
watched at wfp was a high quality run
1:07:53
event against top competition especially
1:07:56
if you're in those last heats the amount
1:08:01
of experience and um with good competition
1:08:05
that you get and the money you can
1:08:08
earn
1:08:10
If you're not a top five athlete,
1:08:14
you're better off to go to the WFP.
1:08:16
Yep.
1:08:18
And if you're James Sprague,
1:08:19
you just do both and win them both.
1:08:26
Yeah.
1:08:26
Yeah, I just,
1:08:31
I was really impressed by the WFP and
1:08:33
I know I sound like I'm just
1:08:36
I hate the term glazing,
1:08:38
but I feel like that's what I'm doing,
1:08:40
but I really had a good experience there.
1:08:49
I can certainly see the appeal as an
1:08:50
athlete.
1:08:51
Yeah, I see it too.
1:08:59
And and maybe it's you just getting the
1:09:01
experience you need and the money to
1:09:04
financially support yourself until you can
1:09:06
go to the games.
1:09:11
Clock Sprague is doing Rogue and he's
1:09:15
doing Waterpalooza.
1:09:17
He finally got his invite.
1:09:18
He had to take it.
1:09:19
Probably the one he didn't want to accept
1:09:21
it.
1:09:21
He's like, well.
1:09:24
Here's the crazy thing to me is how
1:09:26
does Ellie get an invite?
1:09:29
It is, it is interesting.
1:09:32
And to get one before Ariel was that
1:09:38
you think it was something Justin?
1:09:40
Yes.
1:09:46
I don't love that either that,
1:09:49
or it's an Adam thing.
1:09:50
And all three of his athletes got invited.
1:09:55
If it's that,
1:09:56
I'm actually better with it than if it's
1:09:58
a Justin thing.
1:10:00
Well,
1:10:00
he needs to fix that rift between Ellie
1:10:04
and Danielle.
1:10:05
Yeah, I don't know.
1:10:11
And I love Ellie Turner.
1:10:12
I've had great experiences with her in the
1:10:13
past,
1:10:14
and I love sitting down and talking with
1:10:17
her.
1:10:18
But if I'm looking for an all-star team
1:10:21
to take to SoCal,
1:10:23
she is not one of my top choices.
1:10:29
She is.
1:10:30
I think she's a pretty decent choice for
1:10:33
team.
1:10:36
You just never know with her back.
1:10:38
Cause she's got some home run hitters.
1:10:41
I know.
1:10:43
It, I wonder what this format,
1:10:45
like you can pick where you put people,
1:10:48
like maybe they can avoid some of that.
1:10:50
I totally go through all the events again
1:10:54
and like really put her where I think
1:10:55
she needs to go.
1:10:57
But this is probably the bet,
1:11:01
the better format for her.
1:11:06
Sure.
1:11:08
But if I have an outcast team with
1:11:11
Alex Kazan and Ariel and Daniel Brandon,
1:11:15
I like their chances a lot more.
1:11:20
Now, Alex turned it down,
1:11:23
so we don't have that option anyway.
1:11:26
But thanks, Yvonne.
1:11:31
I think Ellie is a very attractive.
1:11:33
I will say that.
1:11:34
I'm not going to answer the way you
1:11:35
want me to.
1:11:37
Respectfully smash.
1:11:42
But yeah, I think she,
1:11:44
I got to meet her at her first
1:11:45
games and interview her for morning chalk
1:11:47
up.
1:11:48
And it was a very delightful experience
1:11:50
and she was awesome to talk to.
1:11:53
And she was in a bad situation cause
1:11:54
it was right after COVID and she couldn't
1:11:56
get back to Australia.
1:12:00
Yeah.
1:12:02
So, um,
1:12:06
So the last thing I think I wanted
1:12:08
to talk about,
1:12:08
and then we can get off,
1:12:10
and then I can go meet my wife
1:12:12
and daughter at the pool, is Wayne O'Hara,
1:12:18
pot for PEDs.
1:12:20
I have not watched all of this interview.
1:12:23
So full disclosure there.
1:12:26
You cannot watch it.
1:12:27
Well, listen.
1:12:28
Yes,
1:12:28
I haven't listened to the whole thing.
1:12:31
Nor have I even finished Hiller's full
1:12:35
video on it.
1:12:35
I'm only like twenty minutes for Hiller's
1:12:37
video.
1:12:39
So I've watched all of Hiller's.
1:12:42
I listened to enough of the interview with
1:12:44
Wayne that I'd shut it off.
1:12:46
And I'd made the statement earlier this
1:12:48
week that if you pop for PEDs,
1:12:50
I don't want to hear from you.
1:12:52
I've heard all the excuses.
1:12:54
None of them hold water.
1:12:56
I don't give a shit.
1:12:57
Go to your corner, make your appeal,
1:12:59
do whatever you want to do.
1:13:01
But I don't want to hear from you
1:13:02
until you're coming back four years later.
1:13:07
I changed my mind.
1:13:09
You can only come out and talk is
1:13:12
if you do the interview with Hiller.
1:13:13
Okay.
1:13:16
Because he can call bullshit so fast.
1:13:19
I don't know enough about this stuff to
1:13:22
know what bullshit I'm being thrown and
1:13:27
have the ability to sift through it.
1:13:32
Where Hiller knows this stuff like the
1:13:34
back of his hand.
1:13:36
Right.
1:13:36
So if you pop four PEDs and you
1:13:39
have a legit excuse as to why you
1:13:42
did,
1:13:44
then you call Hiller
1:13:46
and say you want to do an interview
1:13:47
with him.
1:13:48
And if you can get through that test,
1:13:51
then I'll listen.
1:13:52
Okay.
1:13:55
But other than that, shut the hell up.
1:14:01
Because to say I didn't know is bullshit.
1:14:07
Yeah.
1:14:10
Well,
1:14:11
what I caught of Hiller recapping it was
1:14:14
like,
1:14:16
The dude was like, what,
1:14:18
nine hundred a thousand or something like
1:14:20
that.
1:14:22
Yeah.
1:14:22
Like, yeah,
1:14:23
you're straight up like blasting it at
1:14:25
this point.
1:14:25
You're better than you're better than
1:14:28
really anyone.
1:14:29
A twenty year old like nobody's really
1:14:31
going to have that number.
1:14:32
So and there's no way you didn't notice
1:14:36
significant.
1:14:38
Benefit from it right away.
1:14:43
Yes,
1:14:44
I wish Hiller would have been speaking to
1:14:46
him when he was saying these things so
1:14:47
he could be like, yeah, false.
1:14:51
Well, he said like,
1:14:52
nine hundred was the high end of normal.
1:14:54
And Hiller goes, I don't know what...
1:14:56
He said every doctor has a different range
1:14:57
for normal,
1:14:58
so to say what's normal is very hard
1:15:00
to do.
1:15:01
But in any of these ranges,
1:15:03
nine hundred is not normal.
1:15:06
Right.
1:15:09
And...
1:15:12
And so, yeah,
1:15:13
like that's what I appreciate.
1:15:14
Cause when,
1:15:15
when Hiller does the breakdown and he has
1:15:18
all this knowledge about what these things
1:15:21
should be, he knows what hormones or what,
1:15:24
all of that stuff.
1:15:25
And I just, I just, I,
1:15:30
and I'm so sick of the excuses.
1:15:33
Yeah.
1:15:35
I'm with John George.
1:15:36
Everybody knows it's in the rules.
1:15:38
If you're competing in CrossFit, you know,
1:15:40
you can't take performance enhancing.
1:15:43
So what is this that I'm hearing that
1:15:46
there is a TRT, like, waiver?
1:15:52
It's not a TRT waiver.
1:15:54
It's a therapeutic exemption.
1:15:56
Yeah.
1:15:58
So those are in a lot of sports.
1:16:00
This I know a little bit about.
1:16:02
Like,
1:16:02
if you are an asthmatic and you can
1:16:05
get your albuterol covered under
1:16:08
therapeutic exemption...
1:16:12
then so you can use your inhaler if
1:16:14
you can't breathe.
1:16:15
Correct.
1:16:18
Now,
1:16:21
I don't know what criteria to get TRT
1:16:24
included in your exemption is.
1:16:27
But Wayne said on this thing, and again,
1:16:30
it's coming from Wayne,
1:16:32
that CrossFit told him an example was that
1:16:37
if you had testicular cancer,
1:16:40
and a doctor said you should get TRT
1:16:43
to get testosterone back into your system,
1:16:47
that that might be approved.
1:16:51
But again,
1:16:51
that's Wayne's saying what CrossFit said.
1:16:55
Okay.
1:16:59
So I don't know if there are people...
1:17:04
Hiller kind of led you to believe that
1:17:07
he now believes that several people have
1:17:09
this.
1:17:10
Wow.
1:17:11
And nobody will tell you,
1:17:13
but I didn't make that leap.
1:17:18
I always thought that TRT was not a...
1:17:24
You couldn't get a therapeutic exemption
1:17:26
for TRT.
1:17:33
Well, again,
1:17:35
if we're leading people to believe that
1:17:38
some people are on...
1:17:45
levels that are i guess exemption waiver
1:17:50
like this this is the problem if you
1:17:52
go down this path and people start to
1:17:54
think like yeah well everyone's on it
1:17:56
because they have a waiver and so like
1:17:58
i gotta get at least like five six
1:18:00
hundred levels so that i'm like in the
1:18:03
that's the problem well i can't imagine
1:18:06
anybody getting a therapeutic exemption to
1:18:08
get over nine hundred
1:18:10
No, you wouldn't.
1:18:11
That's why he got caught.
1:18:13
But like,
1:18:13
if he would have kept it at six
1:18:14
hundred, would he have been fine?
1:18:16
That's what that's where I'm like,
1:18:18
curious what the heck's going on.
1:18:20
So, again,
1:18:21
this is where Hiller's expertise is way
1:18:23
better than mine from people I have talked
1:18:26
to that are athletes.
1:18:27
And again, all of this is suspect.
1:18:31
You can basically ride the line and as
1:18:33
long as it doesn't get too high,
1:18:34
you're not going to get dinged.
1:18:38
Right.
1:18:39
Yeah.
1:18:40
But this was nine fifty.
1:18:42
This got this would have got dinged with
1:18:44
or without a therapeutic exemption.
1:18:46
Right.
1:18:52
So.
1:18:54
I don't know.
1:18:56
Do I think people are taking it in
1:18:58
at least low doses to try to up
1:19:00
it a little?
1:19:01
I bet they are.
1:19:02
That's sad.
1:19:08
But I don't know.
1:19:12
I've come to the realization in the sports
1:19:15
world that I watch outside of CrossFit
1:19:18
that a lot of people use and the
1:19:21
people I least suspect it or probably pop
1:19:24
positive for it at some point.
1:19:28
It just happens.
1:19:29
In the NFL,
1:19:30
they announce it and it's not even a
1:19:31
blip on the radar anymore.
1:19:35
Like, okay,
1:19:36
sit out your four games and come back.
1:19:38
We'll see you.
1:19:41
Like, it is such a non-thing.
1:19:47
So that boggles my mind.
1:19:53
But in Olympic sports or like CrossFit or
1:19:56
things like that,
1:19:58
I think that it is way more prevalent
1:20:01
now.
1:20:02
And it is much more than a blip.
1:20:07
If you win a medal at the Olympics
1:20:09
and you test positive,
1:20:10
it's going to make more than a blip.
1:20:20
I bet fifty percent of age groups at
1:20:23
the games are using.
1:20:29
That's sad to even think
1:20:32
possible but if you're missing a testicle
1:20:38
I'm okay with it I'm pretty sure they
1:20:40
won't be lining up to hack off a
1:20:41
testy I've seen people do some crazy shit
1:20:46
Larry so there won't be a Clydesdale
1:20:55
biomex code anytime soon we'll take a
1:20:58
biomex yeah
1:21:01
If you are doing it for quality of
1:21:02
life, more power to you.
1:21:07
If you need peptides to make you feel
1:21:09
better, go get peptides.
1:21:12
That's what they're made for.
1:21:14
But the problem is if you want to
1:21:16
compete, you cannot use them.
1:21:19
That is the rule.
1:21:22
And I think it was even said to
1:21:23
Wayne, like,
1:21:25
do you have to make the choice?
1:21:26
Do you want a better quality of life?
1:21:28
Or do you want to compete in this
1:21:30
sport?
1:21:31
And he said he didn't see any effect
1:21:33
from the TRT,
1:21:35
which is complete and utter bullshit.
1:21:39
If you didn't feel anything,
1:21:40
why were you taking it?
1:21:42
Right.
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Because if I'm
1:21:51
If I'm taking heart medicine and my AFib
1:21:54
comes back every time I take it,
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why would I keep taking it?
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Um, and it's very nice and very sweet,
1:22:57
but, um, but if you're an athlete,
1:23:01
like Jamie's not going to give you what
1:23:03
she used of the peptides because she's
1:23:06
competing and we want her to win in
1:23:08
a fair and equitable manner.
1:23:11
I can take all the peptides.
1:23:13
I'll take them all.
1:23:20
so with that yeah we'll have them school
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you yeah all right guys i'm gonna get
1:23:29
out of here actually i'm losing all of
1:23:31
my sunlight and uh we will talk to
1:23:36
you all next time my daughter is in
1:23:38
the chat she's like come swim uh we'll
1:23:44
see everybody i there will be no show
1:23:46
tomorrow i'm heading to glacier national
1:23:48
park
1:23:49
with the family.
1:23:51
And then we'll be back on Tuesday for
1:23:54
a lunch show.
1:23:56
And with that,
1:23:56
we'll see everybody next time on Sunday,
1:24:00
Sunday, Sunday night, CrossFit talk.