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The AfterMath · United We Scan

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  Now, here are the hosts of The United rescan podcast.
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  Welcome back. We are at episode 15.
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  I want to start off with thanking all the new listeners
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  and subscribers. Those both on Facebook and our
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  podcast platforms. We definitely appreciate you.
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  I thank you. Your input is always welcome.
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  I think tonight we went ahead and decided early on that we are
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  titling. This episode at the aftermath
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  after probably a good majority. 30 of people received their 4241
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  Asia yesterday. I know quite a few offices,
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  probably won't get them till tomorrow and management comes
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  back in and it's definitely been a mixed amongst the social
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  media. I have seen definitely more
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  towards the negative than the positive.
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  But on that note tonight, we've got Bill and Josh and James with
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  us again and Josh. How you doing?
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  How did you fare out? Art Birdwell I gained two
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  standard hours but I was already a 48, so I didn't gain any
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  money. I just I gained more time that
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  they can cut for me. When they finally do cuts.
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  In my office, talk from the chatter, I heard two people went
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  down three hours. The other ones I've talked to
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  pretty much stayed the same. Another one went down one hour.
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  so, I hear ya my office. I'm going to say it was kind of
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  mixed. My Ox wrote didn't really change
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  my standard hours, had a minimal change went from 16, .19 to 15
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  .58. So I'm still a 16-hour Ochsner
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  out. Are 43 kpov Route, 93 Miles. 478
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  boxes to take a three-hour cut down to a 4, R TK, he's not
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  happy. Trust me, our 48k us of what 47
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  K. So, she was fine with that.
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  I think she had said it had just recently gone back down to a
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  47k. So she stayed the same are two
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  42k routes. Both went to forty five.
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  K's And our 40. We had to 42 J routes one, went
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  to a 45 J and the other a 44h. Now that one was the pad at her
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  out. So I knew that was going to go
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  back down to an H, it's because it didn't have any business
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  being a j and outside of that. That's how my office fared Bill.
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  Did you get any news? well, I don't know about news
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  because, you know, even though it was my day off being the
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  local Steward, my phone blew up and I'm telling you, We don't
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  get paid enough, you little shit words.
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  I know the normal day normal day, my thumb doesn't go below a
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  50 percent charge. Yeah, me using it, from whatever
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  reason, you know, phone or music or sports with a.
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  But I'll tell you what, it started at 7:30 in the morning,
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  and it didn't stop until 8:00 10:00 last night, that and then
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  in between that and watching a grandson overnight Friday night,
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  And Saturday by time 9:00 came came.
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  I didn't even need a glass of Crown Royal to go to sleep
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  because people were pissed. Then that's just being mild
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  about it. The ones that lost were the ones
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  that, you know, made the comments.
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  Oh, I don't give a fuck about that or I don't even and, and
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  the other ones were, you know, didn't pay attention.
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  And they said, see this many mail survey was was bogus.
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  And I said, it's not the mini mail survey.
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  It's the two years before, when I've been telling you to do
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  everything on the scans, the pay To enter the information.
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  It's the year-long preceding. This is what your evaluation
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  was. So if you didn't do what I've
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  been telling you for two years that's on you. well, I didn't
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  know and folks if I had enough hair to pull out, I would but I
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  don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that.
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  I have witnesses to say Bill's been up there at every moment.
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  Telling you what you need to do and you didn't pay attention.
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  It's your paycheck and you just screwed yourselves.
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  And the mini ramp. Yeah.
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  It's I had to explain to the one carrier that went from a.j. to
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  an H. The difference.
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  She's like so I lose my DACA day because she was working six days
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  a week and I was like, yes, you don't get to take a Deca
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  anymore, on that one day, because now you have to work six
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  days a week. I said, but you went from a 42
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  to a 44. So I had to get out the, the pay
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  table and show. Or yeah.
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  Yeah. And of course, my one POV wrote
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  that drop three hours and Yeah, I yeah.
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  And I know where a lot of that came from.
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  It's just trying to get them the carriers to understand the
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  difference in. The standards.
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  I mean when you're going from 2 minutes, a box on an out, route
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  to one point two minutes a box that's an hour-and-a-half cut on
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  that route right then. And there we're open that right
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  off the bat was like 95 minutes because I was I said how many
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  box I was doing the math with him tonight?
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  As I was as he was reading me is 42 41 M and I'm going through
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  the wrecks comparison, 42, 41, M, and trying to explain to him
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  what these are and And I said, in your drive speed.
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  I said, yeah, that's where your loss was.
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  Was that that has him at 68% coverage?
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  so, Unfortunately, it's not a heavy route.
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  It never has been it. Probably never will be.
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  And unfortunately, it's at this point unless there are some
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  discrepancies that we can find when I have the stuff in hand
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  looking at it with my eyeballs. Then you know I don't know where
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  we'll go from there. It's definitely been
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  interesting. James, how did you make out?
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  So, it's going to be quite interesting for me tomorrow.
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  Yes, and I'm already not looking forward to going into work
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  tomorrow. I'm the heaviest day of the week
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  and having everybody complaining about them losing hours in this
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  and that. The other thing in my office,
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  one route went up two hours. And that was our littlest.
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  Ox route went up two hours. We knew it was going to go up,
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  no matter what kind of count we had, just because of the mail
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  volume, it had ever since they formed it, but now it's finally
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  official that is gone up to Towers the other Ox route went
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  down. Five hours.
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  Whoa. Went from a 39 to a 34.
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  And my route stayed the same. I'm still a 42k on mine.
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  So five day work week in my office of the remaining nine
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  routes in my office. I think it was if I recall one
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  of them went to an h / McKay. Four of them went to AJ from,
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  okay, including ones that were almost 48k.
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  And just like you guys have been saying, I had one guy tell me
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  straight up to my face when I told them you got to start doing
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  these games because it's your money.
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  He said they told me I had to do the six cans, that's all I'm
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  paid for. So, that's all I'm doing.
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  Well, they The Roosters come into wrote The Roosters.
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  Come into home, know if, unfortunately, the thing and the
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  one that went to an H route is the one.
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  I feel the worst for Back when this first started, I actually
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  put on my own training. I borrowed the fire department's
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  conference room and put on a training there for anybody that
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  wanted to attend. It was off the books, no
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  management approval, no Union approval.
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  And I wanted our carriers to know about it.
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  I had three regular carriers and one sub show up out of nine
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  regular carriers. and at the time, Seven Subs, So, I had 16
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  people that could have gotten this training at even before it
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  went live. And only four of them showed up.
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  Well, the 18 route is one of the carriers that showed up to my
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  training. She always asked questions, you
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  always ask how she should input stuff, but her route is in a
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  subdivision. They replace the mailboxes in
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  the subdivision and 90% of her package is now fit in their
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  mailboxes. And that's one of the big things
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  that cost her a lot of time because she no longer gets the
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  distance from the mailbox to the park point and from the park
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  Point walking Line to the door. Those distances, add up big
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  time. You know, my route being a 42 K
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  is number one, a miracle that I did not get cut because I
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  figured I would I didn't expect to go up.
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  I didn't expect to stay the same.
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  I expected to go down like everybody else, but to be told,
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  I'm staying the same and I'm not doing any extra scans.
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  Need to be need to pad my route or anything like that.
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  I was completely. As with all my scans and somehow
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  I was able to stay a 42. Now, I don't know why everybody
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  else is going down in my office. When I know some of the routes
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  should stay up with the volumes that they have and some of the
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  routes should go down with the volumes they had.
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  The one that said Jay route, one of the message, a route got cut
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  from a 48 with a massive cut. He should probably be an H route
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  now. But he only went down to a.j.
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  and I'm thinking that there's so much variability here with his
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  route and the aux route that went down because that's where
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  his boxes went to that. I'm thinking that because of
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  this last year and the routes only being cotton within the
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  last three months that there's Is your volume still sitting on
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  that route from the 52 weeks that hasn't been taken off?
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  And the same on the ox route. There's residual of lower amount
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  still on there and that's why it got cut.
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  Unfortunately, we don't have the numbers to back it up.
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  We don't have the paperwork to back it up.
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  And there's a lot of questions on these papers that I'm going
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  to have to answer on Monday that I'm going to have to say.
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  I can't answer them because I don't have the information and
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  nobody can get it for me. And that's the worst feeling in
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  the world is that I can't get the information.
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  I'm fine with saying, I don't know, but I could find out when
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  I have to say, I don't know, and I can't find out.
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  That's what upsets me in the steward.
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  I don't know about you, guys. How do you feel about that?
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  Well, alright not her fault either.
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  Well, I'll blame the Dr. Then I can't then their fault.
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  They've done their job happened. They they've been completely
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  transparent. They were fully trained
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  professional. Yeah.
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  And efficient large the Gill giving us the information when
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  we needed what we needed and don't forget.
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  They also took the time to train us all on it too.
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  Yes. They even paid us to go to
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  training member. Yes.
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  Yeah I think I can do remember that.
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  I think I was drunk that day. And I know, I know in Michigan,
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  specifically. I mean, we had a couple
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  different trainings but even the national office put on a
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  steward, Zoom Q&A for us. So yes, they did.
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  So that is with the Union. The problem with the Union on
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  that, is that they gave it to union members.
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  Only there wasn't anything for the non-union members.
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  It was done through paying members.
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  So they could get that information and the only way to
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  get that information is either through a third party or through
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  management management is not going to give you the completely
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  right? Answer on that.
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  They're going to tell you whatever's best for management.
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  Like not counting accounting album through the mini mail
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  survey Man's me even though you're right answers when they
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  don't let it right answers. Yes.
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  Oh exactly. So there was properly.
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  I mean it goes honestly, I think anybody to blame on anything
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  when it comes to the training in general, and not having the
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  information lay solely on the postal, outlay solely on postal
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  headquarters, Yes, because they were told in Arabic for a stone
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  that they were required to, to train the carrier's on this and
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  they completely failed in that portion of the arbitration.
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  The union has stated multiple times through all these
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  trainings that were not supposed to put this on, but nobody else
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  is doing it. It's more likely that trainer is
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  a union member, but it's the post office is paid by the post
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  office to do the training. The man that was for management,
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  The Strain the carrier's? Yes.
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  All right. Well, I can tell you in at least
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  in North Carolina. The avrs all went to offices and
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  conducted the Rex training because they knew management was
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  a, you know, on top of it. So oh, I'm the one that did it.
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  Of course, I started to study office.
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  So I was already somewhat familiar with everything and it
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  was just getting re familiarized with the changes that they added
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  scans and the scans, I don't want her dead from when I had
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  first started, right? And so I kind of took over, not
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  fully the training, but jointly with Management in my office,
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  And you know I made sure everybody had all the handouts.
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  I print out one copy management would print copies for everybody
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  including the 99 page Rex comprehensive guide.
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  She made sure every carrier in my office had a copy of that.
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  Well that's a good on her guide is I I printed off?
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  Yeah I got it off. One copy, she took it, she took
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  the copy that I printed off and brought in and ran copies for
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  every carrier in the office. So there should have been one in
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  every case and then she had one for herself as well.
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  That way she could see what was going on.
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  Yeah. See I am in my office.
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  About that halfway through we got into having to do the
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  mapping. When they first opened up the
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  mapping, I turned around and I said, I'll be I'll be the
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  facilitator as the Union steward.
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  I'll be the facilitator, you know.
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  Somebody has to be a facilitator.
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  Not just management. I didn't trust management.
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  No offense to my management. I have great management, but I
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  have to make sure the carrier's, get it right?
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  And so I offered to be the facilitator, I learned
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  everything I could. About it.
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  I learned out the whole 99 page manual.
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  Everything I was working with management and eventually it got
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  to the point where my postmaster turn around.
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  So if you have any questions on this stuff, ask James because
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  James is gone through all this stuff, James knows.
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  All these things I asked him about it.
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  He knows what he's doing. Even our OJ, I doesn't know as
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  much about this system as I do in this.
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  In this situation. It's not a knock on her.
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  She has a lot of work to do with it.
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  Okay. I Why is it is?
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  And you know that to Kristen isn't OJ.
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  I that there's a lot that I know GI has to do on top of you being
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  a steward, know that other stuff.
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  But yeah I hold those three of those hats in my office.
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  Yeah. Well you know exactly how hard
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  it is to cross between all three of those as it is and our
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  office. I mean a lot of the people were
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  just doing the bare minimum that they could.
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  Good. And then also on the other side
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  of it, there's another part that a lot of people did not realize
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  actually affects this and didn't notice it and that was early.
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  Work working off, the clock has affected your Rex score and it
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  doesn't matter how you do it or what you do.
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  If you go in early and you are not clocked in, you are not
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  affecting your Rec score. If you are clocked in and
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  working, you are affecting your Rec score.
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  And here's another side to that, a lot of management is telling
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  people not to punch in until your start time, and that is a
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  falsity, a lot of people who are being forced to punch in late
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  and being late is a discipline arable offense, being less than
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  5 minutes. Early is legal under the Postal
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  operations manual. You have a five minute leeway
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  and you can punch in early. I'm looking for carriers and
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  other officers that are being told this, because I'm looking
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  at filing a class action against postal management for putting
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  this out there, because it's a violation of the postal
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  operations manual. So, I'm working on that right
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  now because it's not, right? And you should be able to punch
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  in a little bit early on the clock instead of punching it in
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  exactly 8:00 or whatever your start time is or even a minute
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  or two after. It's not right?
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  And it shouldn't be happening. I guess someone grieved about
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  people, work coming in early and working.
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  So, the 204 B now won't even let her some work on floor.
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  I'll go to my come in and go to my case and take my coat off,
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  just like because it's still not touching anything.
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  To stay a while. Yeah, so yeah.
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  Our start time is 8:30 and they posted something be a Saturday
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  or Friday. Saying, start times will be
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  eight, am starting on the 8th so they didn't tell us that was
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  always City. They just said, start times will
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  be 8 a.m. So, I will be there at 8:00 a.m.
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  on Saturday and that's Management's discretion.
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  Well, The postmaster put out, we were the last one.
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  My station was the last one, any all in the Charlotte Post Office
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  to go to eat 30, which was almost a year.
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  After the Postmaster said, H star X will be 8:30 because they
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  kept not changing our 42 40s. So, every time I gave him like
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  that first Saturday, they said it's going to affect Saturday.
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  8:30, I show up at 8:30, Saturday, and it's still.
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  So 7:30, so I would continue coming in at 7:30, So, and
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  that's, and we got to talk about all these other carriers that
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  are being affected by this. And what the union is doing for
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  them, he's a union is doing what they're supposed to.
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  When it comes to this, they have filed a step Four Agreements on
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  this, which is the highest grievance they can file and that
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  is too. Force the Postal Service to
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  release the numbers. Because they haven't whole time
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  and an unfair labor charge. I'll get to that.
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  And the reason why they're filing that right now is because
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  they've had step for us for this before but they're doing it at
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  every instance that they can legally do.
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  So when they first announced they were going to do them in
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  email. Survey they filed a step for for
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  now releasing the numbers when they finish them in email survey
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  in announced that the route That are going down routes are going
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  up and so on and so forth, they filed another one for it.
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  Now they've also filed a labor charge for this very thing and
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  they've also filed for a moratorium for 60 days on the
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  route evaluations until the Postal Service can release the
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  numbers. Now whether the Information and
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  verify it so that way, yeah, it won't go into effect until they
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  get an answer from the post office.
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  So the post office drags it, drags its feet and holds off
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  until the X-Men email survey, it'll be 60 days after the next
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  mini mail survey, if they release the numbers just as the
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  mini mail survey starts, 60 days from that point.
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  And therein lies the problem because of the fact that, as of
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  September that the union was saying that there was no
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  transparency from the post office on the numbers.
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  They were given an additional six months to provide that
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  transparency and here we are to let you know, seven months
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  later. There's still no transparency.
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  And we're looking down the barrel of a gun for to that
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  almost 70%. Of 70% of the royal craft is
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  looking down the barrel of a gun.
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  Basically. Yeah when you have carriers
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  taking three to twenty thousand dollars, three thousand and
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  twenty thousand dollars a year, pay cuts.
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  I mean come on people. When you have yeah I'm gonna
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  walk away. It's dropping H routes.
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  Yes, yes, I mean what's going to go from 40 46 to 48, dropping
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  down to 40. Mmm.
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  What's going to happen there? Before these formula offices?
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  That had all these K ropes, that are no J&H roaches, and what's
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  going to happen to these pts because contractually a PT f is
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  supposed to be a scientist at least two 25k routes.
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  And now, if you don't have K, right Leon fear off yeah, to 25k
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  routes per string for a PTF. And now While the key routes are
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  gone, what's going to happen and in there isn't there isn't even
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  a provision in the contract. For if the offices drop all
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  their queiroz for pts, there is no there is no recourse for
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  them. The only thing they would have
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  is if there's other formula offices within 50 miles that
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  they can bid on or District bid, they can even go for a national
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  bit and move out of state or something for a PT F position,
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  so within 50 miles of their office, basically.
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  That they can bid in how many, how many are we going to
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  actually lose in that situation on the PTF side?
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  Not to mention the RCA side of these offices that had 1K route
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  or had their own K, route on a Saturday and a k route on a
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  Monday that they were running and then whatever they covered
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  throughout the week. Now, if you have J routes in the
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  offices will be working two routes, every pay period instead
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  of one on a Saturday and then what happens to their Monday.
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  If there's no K routes to work a Monday.
• 26:28
  Well, now, they're only working Saturday and maybe Amazon
• 26:30
  Sunday, if they have an Amazon Sunday, we like a my office, 28
• 26:37
  roads mean. Yes and yes.
• 26:46
  At this point in time are entitled to a leave replacement
• 26:50
  actually even in how many leaper place is the only going to work
• 26:53
  on here. Yeah, I when I first transferred
• 26:56
  into my office, I transferred in on an 8th route, the carrier at
• 27:00
  the time was out on owcp. She came back three weeks in
• 27:04
  after I transferred in over the first time ever, in my life, I
• 27:09
  had to pay checks that were zero.
• 27:13
  You know I love that so but an intro I know how that goes.
• 27:19
  Yeah, then we're looking at we're going to lose Subs.
• 27:22
  That were working three days a week and making, okay, money to
• 27:27
  subset of working one day a week now, which is, of course, only
• 27:30
  guarantee on teh routes one day a week.
• 27:34
  JWoww's one day, every two weeks HR us, you're only guaranteed to
• 27:38
  work with the carrier's off. And we're going to lose those
• 27:42
  subs because going to go off and work at McDonald's or Walmart or
• 27:46
  someplace else where they make a dollar or two an hour less, but
• 27:50
  they'll get more hours and then you have the regulars who are
• 27:55
  used to working five days a week doing six hours a day, going to
• 28:00
  six days a week, working five hours a day.
• 28:05
  We're getting paid 5 hours a day.
• 28:08
  And they're going to not be happy, they're going to quit.
• 28:11
  What are we going to do the subsequent?
• 28:12
  We are going to quit first before the regular do then the
• 28:15
  regulars are going to quit. There's no substance fill those
• 28:17
  positions. Now we've got even more route,
• 28:18
  sitting empty. You've already have.
• 28:23
  Ribbon new trying to get rid of the table one employees because
• 28:27
  we make too much. The thing is is that the
• 28:30
  employee the ones that they're going to push out is going to be
• 28:32
  the table too. It's gonna be the table to
• 28:36
  table. Canada.
• 28:36
  More likely to quit. Yes, Yeah, it's table.
• 28:43
  Two is going to walk out and then table ones are going to be
• 28:45
  Alice left. You're going to have carriers
• 28:47
  that were on table one, that our work until they're 80 years old.
• 28:50
  Because they can't retire because they don't want to leave
• 28:52
  their route abandoned because they have too much pride in
• 28:54
  their job, to leave the route abandoned, they're going to die
• 28:57
  in the in their postal truck. From old age out there on the
• 29:02
  route mics not on with us at the moment.
• 29:05
  I'm not sure if he's going to jump in or not but he just made
• 29:08
  an announcement and I want to put this out for everybody
• 29:10
  that's in the mid states. Conference region.
• 29:14
  If you are still interested in registering in attending mid
• 29:17
  states in Wichita, Kansas the first weekend of May the you can
• 29:22
  still register, they are going to keep the PO Box open until
• 29:27
  May 1st. So I'm just going to put that up
• 29:29
  for you guys. Anybody that still interested in
• 29:33
  registering to attend mid states, you have until May 1st.
• 29:38
  I'm going to say the last day of April to be safe.
• 29:42
  You get that mailed in. The PO Box will stay open until
• 29:44
  the first of me. Alright, go ahead.
• 29:49
  Sorry about that. I just want to put that out
• 29:51
  there because I know I'm definitely looking forward to
• 29:54
  going now. Because I think now that
• 29:56
  evaluations of come out, it's going to be quite interesting at
• 30:02
  mid states. And what you were saying
• 30:06
  earlier, you know, but a bit ago about h four outs entitled,
• 30:09
  you're having a sub. Yeah.
• 30:12
  And all the subs that are now on each routes that were Jays are
• 30:15
  caves are not going to be happy because now they're only work in
• 30:18
  that one week a year. If there's no other work in the
• 30:21
  office, it's not right there. We're people were looking for,
• 30:30
  that's exactly the ideal job. They were looking for was one
• 30:34
  day a week or less sort of become a sub for the Pope's
• 30:40
  office to get that where you had to cover the station.
• 30:46
  You could still go to whatever job that, you know, if they had
• 30:48
  another job, they could still go to that without having to worry.
• 30:52
  Yeah, they separate, you know, it was difficult, it was getting
• 30:55
  that foot in the door when this used to be quiet.
• 30:58
  I mean, this just be quite the coveted job and I remember, you
• 31:01
  know, it's only been, just over eight years for me, but I, you
• 31:05
  know, I all the time if people want who did, you know, to get
• 31:08
  in there? How did, how did, you know?
• 31:10
  It was one of those things you used to be weightless, mile long
• 31:13
  to get into the post office. Now we can't get help to save
• 31:16
  our lives. We've got regular carriers, who
• 31:19
  are getting so fed up now that our if they haven't already will
• 31:23
  probably be leaving sooner than they had anticipated to start
• 31:27
  with. We already have droughts in some
• 31:30
  areas that are already full time routes that are going up to be
• 31:34
  hired off the street because it's bounce back and forth
• 31:38
  between local and District bidding and nobody's taking
• 31:41
  them. I think right there should
• 31:44
  prompt a resolution to a lot of national bidding.
• 31:50
  Or how about 15? PT F positions in our area and
• 31:55
  only seven were filled. But that goes back to
• 32:00
  management, not doing everything they can to hire people.
• 32:03
  Either. My office is put in for a sub
• 32:06
  for the last two years with district and they'll post it for
• 32:11
  three days every two or three months.
• 32:15
  And for those three days it's, you know, I I go out and I put
• 32:19
  it on all the local social media pages.
• 32:20
  When I find out, it's put up but to get people in the door and
• 32:24
  stuff like that. Given him three days to apply is
• 32:28
  not working. You need to keep them open and
• 32:30
  they're not doing that. Now the other side of this is
• 32:33
  with this these new evaluations you've got carriers.
• 32:36
  I know carriers that have actually gone out and when they
• 32:40
  saw their evaluation, they threw their badge and their keys on
• 32:43
  the desk and walk out the door, if their office And guess what?
• 32:46
  That's a resignation. Yeah that's in a voluntary
• 32:51
  resignation and your Steward is not going to be having an easy
• 32:57
  time of getting your job back. When you just voluntarily
• 33:00
  resigned in your anger towards your numbers that you got in
• 33:04
  through your badge and your keys on the desk, you abandoned your
• 33:08
  job and you voluntarily resigned.
• 33:11
  Yeah, out of haste. I know because I put our R&D are
• 33:15
  put an email blast out about that is, you know, It, I get
• 33:22
  weird, I get the anger in the animosity.
• 33:27
  I mean, these are, this is, this is everybody's livelihood and I
• 33:31
  completely understand that, you know, yes, I'm still in RCA, I
• 33:36
  am the next one to go regular. I will be regular as either just
• 33:42
  before the next mini mail survey or as the new evaluations take
• 33:46
  effect for the many mail survey it's going to fall in right in
• 33:49
  that. That right in that timeframe is
• 33:51
  that route that I am looking at taking still going to be a 45k
• 33:55
  in October? I don't know. but it's You know,
• 34:01
  I get this, this is people's livelihoods, this is, this is
• 34:04
  their money. This is what we, you know, house
• 34:09
  payments, car payments, kids colleges, you know, all that
• 34:14
  stuff. It's our life living paycheck to
• 34:17
  paycheck. Yeah.
• 34:18
  If you're living paycheck to paycheck, you're going to have
• 34:20
  to decide what bills you pay with each paycheck and what
• 34:24
  foods you eat for that next two weeks, because you're going to
• 34:28
  have to decide what's most important.
• 34:31
  When your bills come up because you're sitting there and talking
• 34:34
  about, you know, people who lost to to 13 thousand dollars a year
• 34:40
  and that could be their car payments.
• 34:43
  That could be their their utility bills.
• 34:45
  That could be the food, they put in their fridge, that could be
• 34:49
  the clothes on their kids back. I could be there more in the
• 34:51
  post office, just thank ya, just cost them all.
• 34:54
  I mean, yeah, our kids college tuition.
• 34:57
  I mean, it could be, could be their own College.
• 35:00
  Tuition. I mean, it's It you know, as I
• 35:06
  understand they're trying to push off the table once, but the
• 35:10
  ones that are actually going to affect our the table to stable
• 35:12
  to is already making 8,500 to fifteen thousand dollars a year,
• 35:17
  less than table ones. Those are the ones that are
• 35:20
  going to walk out the door. Uh-huh, and folks, let me put
• 35:26
  this in there. The most drastic thing that I've
• 35:32
  seen in my office and, and, and I've heard from other offices.
• 35:37
  Is the lack of involvement between a regular carrier and
• 35:42
  their sub when they're training them and you don't understand.
• 35:49
  I am a sub, a very good stuff that I trained and I put the
• 35:52
  time the effort I'm available. When I'm off, I'm available in
• 35:56
  the evenings, like I said, yesterday was my dropped day?
• 36:00
  My phone started at 7:30 in the morning.
• 36:02
  It didn't stop till 8:00 at night.
• 36:05
  What you put into the job and that includes training your sub
• 36:09
  correctly, is what you get back out of it.
• 36:13
  And my sub would call me up and say, well, I have this box
• 36:16
  holder is it addressed? Yes.
• 36:18
  Okay it's not a box holder that, you know does it say wsh on
• 36:23
  there? No.
• 36:24
  Okay. Then you can put it under the
• 36:25
  WSS, but what if it has wsh you're not allowed to put them
• 36:29
  in which I believe to be unfair, but it's another discussion.
• 36:35
  But if you don't put the effort into training your sub right,
• 36:39
  guess what? You're going to get screwed and
• 36:42
  the subs going to get screwed. I actually had a conversation
• 36:47
  with a couple of friends of mine that are adrs and they both said
• 36:53
  they can't authorize it on the union side but they said it's
• 36:58
  carrier discretion on the wsh and the rule of thumb would be
• 37:02
  80% coverage is what they said would be 80% of your active
• 37:06
  boxes for coverage to put it as a WSS but that is not coming
• 37:10
  from the union and that's why I'm not naming who they are.
• 37:13
  That I've talked to It is a suggestion to carriers if they
• 37:17
  wish to add a little bit of numbers to it that it won't
• 37:21
  affect it. But if you're putting WSS and
• 37:24
  every single day or putting two or three or four of them in
• 37:28
  every single day, it's going to throw a red flag.
• 37:31
  But if this one every couple of weeks, they're not going to say
• 37:34
  anything, it's going to be looked over.
• 37:38
  Well, that that would be Be the steward of mine that the Union's
• 37:46
  Towing on that. And somebody I'm not going to
• 37:51
  mention Myself by name suggested that if you're if you're getting
• 37:56
  eow sh and it's covering 60 to 70% of your route one day and
• 38:03
  then two days later, you get another one's covering 60, 70 %
• 38:06
  of your route. You've now created a WSS Because
• 38:11
  you now have a hundred fifty percent of your route covered.
• 38:14
  And if your finger slipped on that on that entry, you know, I
• 38:19
  would understand but I can't condone that.
• 38:22
  Exactly. It's carrier discretion on all
• 38:25
  of these scans, we can't tell you, whether you should or
• 38:29
  shouldn't put them in but you should think about what what
• 38:32
  would you think it'd be worth on your route when you actually
• 38:36
  look at? It's the same as with the
• 38:39
  letters versus Flats when we did them in email survey, you know
• 38:42
  when in doubt, if you think it's too big to be a letter, then
• 38:46
  it's a flat. You don't have to think about.
• 38:48
  You don't have to use a ruler or any of that stuff.
• 38:51
  But some carriers still use a ruler.
• 38:53
  They want to be as honest as possible, and that's perfectly
• 38:56
  fine. But again, it's carrier
• 38:59
  discretion on all of this stuff. You know, how many times do we
• 39:09
  don't know what I had when I was in there.
• 39:11
  It just went off. Exactly.
• 39:16
  The scanners aren't accurate. So we don't have to be accurate
• 39:19
  either but doesn't seem that the wsh was created to actually
• 39:25
  robbed us. Because when I get a wshh my
• 39:31
  address is of 639 addresses and it seems like a legal way for
• 39:37
  them to the rhombus. And it should be counted with
• 39:41
  your bundled Flats. It should be counted with your
• 39:45
  bundle flag. Notice I said, should not, it
• 39:47
  would should be counted. Well we don't know that.
• 39:50
  Then again we have the numbers. Exactly.
• 39:55
  It all goes back to. We don't have the numbers and
• 39:58
  then also the Ws. Huh.
• 39:59
  Splat technically should be counted for your route from the
• 40:05
  shipper but again, it's not because we don't have the
• 40:09
  numbers. Hours, everything you think?
• 40:13
  It would be counted unless you have an actual number on it like
• 40:16
  an end of run report which even before the started you could get
• 40:20
  your DPS numbers in an end of run report.
• 40:22
  That's not a problem that's a number.
• 40:24
  You can actually look up but you're bundled Flats.
• 40:28
  Your raw's that you get in your nlm mail, all that stuff is not
• 40:34
  counted in our eyes because we don't have the numbers.
• 40:39
  So if you have a question about whether it's counted or not,
• 40:43
  Default to it hasn't been counted.
• 40:46
  Will be lmm or bundle or free video.
• 40:53
  Dispatch tubs in the morning will show up on the end of Rome
• 40:56
  report. Okay.
• 41:03
  Yeah, carrier routed. Tubs will the clerk routed?
• 41:05
  Tubs will not The nfb nlm male will show up to but in the mini
• 41:13
  mail survey that the training from that I got from the union
• 41:19
  and management said that if the clerk's put the nlm in the hot
• 41:25
  case, then you counted as raw they nlm comes in your DPS.
• 41:30
  It's not supposed to be counted but if it's in your DPS
• 41:33
  technically it's a DPS error So should be counted as a DPS
• 41:38
  error. So either way you should have
• 41:40
  gotten a raw count for the nlm mail and anything else.
• 41:44
  You felt needed to be, counted should have been counted back on
• 41:48
  them in email survey. A lot of things that should have
• 42:04
  been included events. That carriers were never told
• 42:11
  that that was should have been a miscellaneous Time Event.
• 42:13
  So therefore, they're not getting that credit.
• 42:15
  Now, yeah, it's there's a lot of mistakes.
• 42:24
  There's a lot of mistakes that happen with this last mini mail
• 42:26
  survey and the 4241, A's and 4241 M's.
• 42:31
  And the union did put out an email about it or notification
• 42:35
  about it to everybody that they are taped step, foreing it.
• 42:40
  But if you feel like the numbers are wrong, on your 4241, a or
• 42:44
  your 42 for u1m that you should grieve it, and then it will be
• 42:49
  held at Step 2 until the step four is solved.
• 42:52
  And the national level and you should grieve it.
• 42:54
  If you feel like you're being wrong on your paperwork, now
• 42:58
  granted that puts a lot of work on a stewards.
• 43:01
  But that's what were there for. That's our job.
• 43:05
  We're there to help you, whether you are a dues-paying member or
• 43:09
  a nun, dues-paying member, our job is the same for you.
• 43:14
  Just like this podcast, we are here for everybody in the craft.
• 43:21
  Well, now there's a couple of my office on that.
• 43:29
  We'll do our best, no matter what I solve that problem and
• 43:32
  got decertified. Trust me, you're certifiable.
• 43:46
  Yeah, I almost want to call it. The Royal Apocalypse at this
• 43:51
  point in time. It I just I mean my office
• 43:57
  didn't get hit quite like some of these other offices.
• 44:01
  And I feel for those carriers I really do.
• 44:05
  I it's almost to the point. I just don't know what to say
• 44:08
  anymore because it's The loss, it hurts it, you know, it
• 44:14
  doesn't. It's not directly affecting me,
• 44:18
  but but it still hurts because, you know, we're all in this
• 44:22
  together. We're one big, huge role, care
• 44:25
  family. And what's affecting 66 percent
• 44:30
  of our carriers is affecting all of us in one way or another.
• 44:37
  Now granted I'm happy. I'm happy for the 33%.
• 44:42
  I'm happy for the 33% getting the money they deserve.
• 44:45
  But I also feel terrible for the 66 percent that are losing so
• 44:50
  much out of this, whether it be the loss in pay or being a loss
• 44:54
  in days off, because I know how much the days off means just to
• 45:00
  me alone, let alone to somebody else who may have kids or may
• 45:04
  have started. Ting family, or maybe parents
• 45:08
  that are getting up there in age that they have to take care of
• 45:12
  and stuff like that. You know, I know what those days
• 45:14
  off means and that hurts them too.
• 45:18
  And I don't like seeing this but I hope that as a group, we can
• 45:23
  come together and find some kind of positive resolution to this
• 45:27
  that benefits all rural carriers.
• 45:30
  All together. And that's, you know, I feel for
• 45:35
  everyone to in 2018. I went into the count as a 47k,
• 45:42
  I came out as a 41k and I if I remember correctly, I was 2
• 45:48
  minutes into 41. So the initial numbers showed
• 45:52
  40K, So I know, I know and I felt wherever you know, most of
• 46:00
  these people are now it sucks. How many of them are going to
• 46:09
  have to go out and do boober, or ubereats or Lyft, or any of
• 46:15
  those other jobs just to make up this loss of Revenue?
• 46:20
  Although, it would be cool to ride in an Uber that has a
• 46:22
  right-hand Drive. Actually, I like food deliveries
• 46:35
  because of the fact that you can get out on the curb side.
• 46:38
  It's safer for you. Yeah.
• 46:40
  The big, the big joke going around and I did post that Meme
• 46:43
  on the Facebook pages. Only fans though.
• 46:47
  I think there's quite a few people as we now know.
• 46:51
  I what's that? Oh no babe.
• 46:55
  They pay me to keep my clothes on exactly.
• 47:02
  Me too. It's okay.
• 47:09
  Yeah, I just like I said I have no words anymore for it.
• 47:13
  I am just it hurts. It really, really hurts.
• 47:18
  And I'm not one that's directly affected by big eat.
• 47:22
  The big huge changes, but it still it hurts.
• 47:26
  I really do you are affected because you're the sub in your
• 47:29
  office that covers all the routes and so that pay actually
• 47:32
  affects you to do. It does don't get me wrong.
• 47:35
  But, you know, like I said, my office not getting hit as hard
• 47:39
  as some of these offices. We've seen, it's just Like my
• 47:45
  one carrier that went from a K2, an H.
• 47:47
  Yeah. Yeah, II.
• 47:51
  Know someone that that happened? Coincidentally it was a 40 42
• 47:56
  44. So they got lucky I gave up
• 48:00
  there two days off For the same amount of money.
• 48:17
  Exactly. I mean, wrap your head around
• 48:39
  that, folks. I mean, I lost twelve thousand
• 48:42
  dollars, I lost 16, I lost 8300, I wrap your head around.
• 48:47
  The fact that you lost that much time on a route.
• 48:53
  What did you do or not do and earn?
• 48:56
  And you know what did your supper or you know whoever was
• 48:59
  kind people didn't switch the scanners over people who didn't
• 49:02
  bother entering the WSS or entering the UB be absorbed or
• 49:08
  any of those things or all the times around here and the times
• 49:14
  are opposite in the southern, couldn't do it.
• 49:16
  The subs didn't do the scans on the routes because they were
• 49:18
  splitting it and so they didn't do the full scan set for the
• 49:21
  route and that's another Thing that affects it is.
• 49:24
  If you have sons that do splitting a route, one of the,
• 49:29
  one of the neither of those subs are going to be clogged down
• 49:31
  there out, cuz they probably were doing an ox route or
• 49:33
  something else on top of that. And if they also don't change
• 49:37
  the scanner over to that route, you're not going to get the
• 49:40
  package credits for that route. They're good.
• 49:41
  They're going to put the credit on that Ox route that they were
• 49:44
  running. And then you have carriers who
• 49:48
  were not inputting any of this information whatsoever until the
• 49:52
  Last month month and a half. So you only have a month and a
• 49:56
  half worth of scanner inputs, that are now divided over 12
• 50:01
  months. You have your mini mail survey
• 50:04
  and stuff like that. That doesn't really affect your
• 50:07
  out that much 4%. I mean, yeah, you were gain
• 50:10
  maybe at most 10, 15 minutes if you had a lot of mail.
• 50:15
  But you really have to look hard at all.
• 50:17
  The different things that come out of this, the Driveline
• 50:21
  Matrix changes. Aged a lot like Christian said,
• 50:25
  she had that 93 mile route, that's an en el route.
• 50:29
  That route was getting two minutes per mailbox and now that
• 50:34
  routes getting one point two minutes per mailbox on top of
• 50:39
  the 9.6 mom minutes per mile because of the distance between
• 50:45
  boxes probably up to maybe 12 minutes a mile.
• 50:50
  But yeah. Come on now.
• 51:03
  Is I see where that losses but I'm also finding out that the
• 51:08
  the former regular on that route retired last summer.
• 51:11
  Last July she did the six mandatory scans and said screw
• 51:15
  the rest, you know, I retire and I don't care.
• 51:19
  Yeah, her foot out the door, she don't care.
• 51:21
  What happens next career. and then when the new regular, took
• 51:30
  it over so that whole first half of the year, Wasn't getting a
• 51:36
  credited, like, it was supposed to because it was only getting
• 51:39
  done when I was running the route when she wasn't there.
• 51:43
  Yeah. And then you have the routes
• 51:44
  that are getting the mileage off the LTM which may or may not be
• 51:50
  accurate. And if the mileage is incorrect
• 51:53
  on your 4241, you need to turn around and you need to grieve
• 51:57
  that because as it stands our mileage is not based on the LTM
• 52:02
  it is still based on a certified.
• 52:04
  Oh damn. Amateur, any manager tells you.
• 52:07
  It's not based on a certified. Odometer is lying through their
• 52:10
  teeth because our contract still requires a certified odometer to
• 52:14
  measure the mileage of the route.
• 52:18
  Exactly. And that's what I try to tell
• 52:22
  him because the that was another thing too is under the Rex
• 52:27
  mapping. See here's the thing.
• 52:29
  When I came out of that route it was an idea.
• 52:31
  It was 98 mile route, regular had a remeasurement done Just
• 52:38
  before covid. And it went down to 93 miles.
• 52:43
  So we automatically lost an hour.
• 52:46
  They're losing five miles at 12 minutes a mile so that dropped
• 52:53
  it down to a 41. Maybe 42 at the time, it went
• 52:59
  down to 41 and he was telling me when I was talking to the
• 53:04
  regular that has it today. That you know, Anna doing the
• 53:11
  Rex mapping the wild. The Rex may, I think has it at
• 53:13
  91 .83 miles and that's the amount of mileage on the 4241 a
• 53:20
  And he's like, I set my odometer, he goes I have the two
• 53:24
  trips. I said.
• 53:25
  Yeah, just like you know I do. I my Jeep, it goes like, lots of
• 53:29
  one, go. He goes with the other one.
• 53:31
  I keep it going because then he takes a difference from going.
• 53:34
  His going up, the driveways and down.
• 53:39
  And he goes, if just running the flat route, he goes, I subtract
• 53:43
  the mileage out of the driveways he goes, it's at 95 miles.
• 53:48
  I said, ask for a remeasurement with a calibrated vehicle.
• 53:53
  He does. But the, you know, they're
• 53:54
  trying to argue that it's all done in the GPS.
• 53:56
  I said, ask for a remeasurement, there is no language that says
• 53:59
  you cannot ask for a realist measurement, still Mr. Not
• 54:07
  allowing you to get a remeasurement with a certified
• 54:09
  odometer, you can actually agree that because it is a contractual
• 54:13
  dispute. Correct.
• 54:16
  So much. How was your night?
• 54:21
  Well, my daughter has a new ride now we're here.
• 54:28
  Hello he got a 2020 Mazda CX-5. Nice nice.
• 54:38
  Which is she does in she's a CNA.
• 54:44
  She does in home. The in-home care.
• 54:47
  Okay, so that's good. So so she needs something
• 54:52
  reliable something with a lot of space to carry her supplies
• 54:55
  around did so Yeah fairly fuel-efficient.
• 55:00
  So yeah it's up moderately high so she has a good field of
• 55:06
  vision. Yes that's yeah.
• 55:11
  And this herb her roommates boyfriend works at a car dealer
• 55:16
  ship and he went with her to test-drive it.
• 55:20
  Look it over and the seller. I'd help the sellers like a car
• 55:26
  flipper instead of A home flipper.
• 55:29
  He flips cars. So he was really well organised
• 55:33
  and he had a Carfax already run and just he was really, really
• 55:40
  well prepared for us. So I was little, she found him
• 55:44
  on Facebook of all places and I was like, well, you know, I was
• 55:47
  little I was a little wary of that at first, but they went
• 55:53
  without talk to him and he was a nice guy.
• 55:56
  And like I said, really well-organized and everything
• 56:00
  was really about bored. So So yeah, that's how I spent
• 56:07
  my afternoon and early part of the evening.
• 56:09
  So how did your route and office feared with yesterday's?
• 56:20
  Okay. Personally, my route went, I
• 56:24
  went up about 30 Standard time. I went up about 30 minutes that
• 56:28
  put, so I went up from a 45k to a 46k.
• 56:33
  Congratulations. Thank you.
• 56:36
  My route are my office was kind of a mixed bag.
• 56:41
  We had some, we had some big losers, we had some big Gators
• 56:47
  and then we had some in the middle.
• 56:51
  We had. We had to K routes one gal and
• 56:59
  she's been out with an injury and so just the topic you were
• 57:04
  talking about before her routes been being run by RCA's and
• 57:08
  being split since about December and she went from a she want
• 57:13
  from a 47k to a 42 H? Yeah.
• 57:22
  Let me meet her. Yeah.
• 57:24
  There's another regular and I know it used to be my sub of
• 57:27
  record route and Chic when I ran it was I think it was a 46k and
• 57:31
  it may have been about that and she went to an 8th route as
• 57:35
  well. So that we had another another
• 57:41
  couple of K routes that went to J's And then we had a couple of
• 57:48
  a couple of ladies lost like three or four hours but are
• 57:52
  still still K routes. And one lady, one of the ladies
• 57:57
  is like well yeah, I lost for hours but I got so much growth
• 58:00
  on my route. I'm not not really, really
• 58:05
  worried about it and then I catching the end of the last
• 58:10
  conversation, I'm going to say bring your lawn chairs and
• 58:14
  popcorn on Monday because one of the The carriers who is off on
• 58:17
  Saturday, is going to come in more Monday to find, he was cut
• 58:21
  from a 47 to a 40K. That said, and I don't know this
• 58:28
  for sure, but he told me he works.
• 58:30
  He works two cases down for me and I believe he told our case
• 58:36
  neighbor that he wasn't going to do any of the wreck stuff.
• 58:41
  So I put that firmly, If he if he took that cut and that's
• 58:45
  firmly it on him and I don't have a lot of sympathy for him.
• 58:49
  None at all. Well, I'm going to say this 30%
• 58:54
  of your evaluation is the scans you put into your scanner.
• 58:59
  Yeah. But we percent of it.
• 59:02
  Forty percent of it is the computerized stuff that gets put
• 59:06
  into it, then you have the DPM and the LTM that's on top of
• 59:15
  that, that reaches you up to the last six percent, which 2% of
• 59:19
  that is your office measurements and 4% of that, is your main
• 59:22
  email survey and so and I will tell you for the I'm not trying
• 59:30
  to Pat myself on the back or blow my own horn.
• 59:32
  But I was diligent, once they said, hey, you know, you need to
• 59:36
  start doing these scans. I was I was diligent about doing
• 59:40
  them. And that's the thing is, I know
• 59:45
  some carriers that were doing them diligently and still lost
• 59:47
  big. Yeah and I'm sure that that is
• 59:50
  part. Yeah and I'm sure I'm sure
• 59:52
  that's out there. I'm sure there's I'm sure you
• 59:54
  guys have been over this and I don't want to backtrack too much
• 59:56
  but there are a couple things like my my 4241 a my route is on
• 1:00:03
  the my for okay. My 4003, my route measurement is
• 1:00:09
  16 miles the LT on my 4241. A it says I'm almost 17 So, so
• 1:00:19
  they're obviously entering the data from from the, from the
• 1:00:23
  LTM. Yes.
• 1:00:26
  Do you go over? And then my my box Factor, my
• 1:00:31
  coverage Factor was 92%. I don't know.
• 1:00:34
  Did you guys go over that? I don't want to know.
• 1:00:37
  Yeah, right. We haven't gotten that far.
• 1:00:41
  And then the whole thing about zero, I kept, I've been asking
• 1:00:45
  since yesterday is, is the volume factors that still a
• 1:00:50
  thing under x. I I don't know our Rex, I don't
• 1:00:53
  know, we haven't got enough. Solid answer on that.
• 1:00:56
  But what I have seen, is that the Box factor is an adjustment
• 1:01:01
  slot in the wreck stuff, at least, from what I've read in
• 1:01:04
  different things, including the 99 page manual.
• 1:01:07
  Supposed to be an adjustment that if you change significantly
• 1:01:11
  on your route that when the next mini mail survey comes out and
• 1:01:15
  your next 40 to 41 comes out, that'll be in the adjustment
• 1:01:18
  section until you hit your next mini mail.
• 1:01:21
  Survey, six months later. That's at least what I'm getting
• 1:01:25
  from. What I've read, but I must
• 1:01:27
  hundred percent under certain on, okay?
• 1:01:30
  So, yeah. And I, I've looked at my 4241,
• 1:01:37
  a, I printed out the, I printed out the cheat sheet from the for
• 1:01:41
  the, well, what, what, what goes into each of the blocks on the
• 1:01:45
  4241? A, I was wondering and I didn't,
• 1:01:48
  I didn't go to lunch because I've been kind of busy with
• 1:01:51
  stuff today. If there's a comparable Guide to
• 1:01:57
  the 42 41, m, He does anyone know?
• 1:02:02
  And the 99 page manual? There is the 4231 M comparison
• 1:02:09
  and it has, you know what you would have and then the
• 1:02:11
  breakdown of the new one with explanations.
• 1:02:13
  Yeah, I was kind of going over it with the carrier in my office
• 1:02:17
  today as he's reading me as 4241 him numbers and I'm kind of
• 1:02:22
  trying to follow along in the comparison guy and explaining
• 1:02:25
  what they were. So yeah.
• 1:02:27
  Okay it is in there so I need I obviously Need to dig out my
• 1:02:32
  need to dig out my Rex manual again.
• 1:02:34
  It's on a shelf here somewhere. I saw it the other day I need to
• 1:02:38
  dust it off. So another one that we got to
• 1:02:42
  talk about is all the zeros that you see on your 4240 ones.
• 1:02:48
  I have a carrier that sent me their 4241.
• 1:02:50
  I haven't seen mine yet, I haven't been in the office.
• 1:02:53
  When I went in this morning, the 204 B was told not to give them
• 1:02:57
  to the carriers that morning and then Then interesting.
• 1:03:01
  And then he was told around noon to give them out.
• 1:03:06
  When the carrier's got back, and he called me and said, hey, I
• 1:03:10
  just got told I should give them out at in this this afternoon
• 1:03:13
  everybody gets back and I told him straight up.
• 1:03:17
  I said, tell them, please Don't Kill the Messenger.
• 1:03:20
  Yeah, talk with Denise and James on Monday about it but don't
• 1:03:26
  kill me. I'm just giving you what they've
• 1:03:28
  told me to give you. We know this poor guy, this poor
• 1:03:33
  guy, he's a great guy, he's a great tool for be for us and I
• 1:03:37
  really feel bad that he had to be the messenger in this
• 1:03:40
  situation. Our 2004, be gentle, log in to
• 1:03:44
  the computer on Saturday, and he had an email stating that his
• 1:03:49
  detail had ended, and he lost access to everything.
• 1:04:00
  He had stated that the Postmaster said that she'd
• 1:04:03
  rather he, you know, wait until Monday to give them Chris,
• 1:04:07
  everybody's hovered around the desk.
• 1:04:09
  I look at him and said, you know, the postmasters login,
• 1:04:12
  right? He looks at me Smiles, he goes,
• 1:04:14
  yep. I said get to prison buddy,
• 1:04:29
  but she printed out the 4241 atoms without being asked and
• 1:04:34
  gave those out to everyone as well.
• 1:04:36
  I, I told everybody, I told her when they come into the office
• 1:04:41
  as well, I may just Tim's going to give me his to go over
• 1:04:51
  tomorrow. I don't think anybody else is
• 1:04:55
  really complaining much. Obviously, the other three
• 1:04:59
  routes went up. Three hours.
• 1:05:02
  The one stayed the same and the other one went back down to an
• 1:05:05
  H, but it shouldn't never been in ja.
• 1:05:07
  Anyways, it's always been an age.
• 1:05:10
  So otherwise I probably would put a request for information
• 1:05:14
  and just to get a hold of of all of them.
• 1:05:17
  So I could go over them with a fine-tooth comb, but I don't
• 1:05:20
  think they made nessus, made nests may be necessary.
• 1:05:25
  Gosh, I can't even talk to me. Well, we found Tim's numbers
• 1:05:28
  work out and if you see issues, then you can request them.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah, exactly. You know, it's I just and
• 1:05:36
  that's, that's the key word, where there's errors, you need
• 1:05:39
  to grieve it wherever you see errors, okay.
• 1:05:42
  Like, one of my carrier sent me their 4241.
• 1:05:45
  A, a and I saw there was Zero for walk distances.
• 1:05:50
  For what they walk and that is your Park point to Door delivery
• 1:05:54
  times. So this tells me that one or two
• 1:05:59
  things happen either, they weren't delivering to the door
• 1:06:04
  with packages or the system didn't record.
• 1:06:07
  It, are they working the way it's supposed to?
• 1:06:15
  That to there's all different kinds of possibilities with that
• 1:06:18
  or but now we've got a kind of incorrectly, I don't know.
• 1:06:24
  No, it was math correctly because I was there when they
• 1:06:26
  Master. Okay.
• 1:06:27
  Yeah the animatic facility is the facilitator.
• 1:06:30
  Yeah me too. Same with like traffic control
• 1:06:35
  points. If you sat there and put in your
• 1:06:37
  traffic control points in that says zero, you need to grieve
• 1:06:40
  that because you have to have traffic control points in there.
• 1:06:45
  For those of us that have, let's just go over all these different
• 1:06:48
  slots on the 4241. Do people actually know what
• 1:06:52
  they're about, okay? You guys okay with that?
• 1:06:57
  Yeah, somebody had put the cheat sheet, I think I put it in our
• 1:07:08
  chat. If not I can put it in our chat.
• 1:07:12
  Anyway I mean give me a second. So starting starting in the top
• 1:07:19
  left will go across each row and I'll explain a little bit about
• 1:07:23
  each section here. So the first slot is random
• 1:07:27
  letters, this is based on the end of run report that the
• 1:07:33
  management gets. So the carrier routed letters,
• 1:07:36
  like the nlm and things like that, as well as your mini mail,
• 1:07:41
  survey raw letters that you counted are listed here.
• 1:07:47
  Next to that is your carrier out of flats and you're raw flash,
• 1:07:52
  that you counted in the mini mail survey.
• 1:07:55
  Next to that is your W SS letters that you input on your
• 1:07:59
  scanner. So each time you input that WSS.
• 1:08:04
  It gave you coverage for every box and then divide it by the
• 1:08:10
  number of days prior to that. So if you had one every week,
• 1:08:15
  you have 52 weeks of WSS coverage but that's also divided
• 1:08:22
  by 6. The same with the WSS Flats box,
• 1:08:26
  holder letter box, holder Flats, DPS letters.
• 1:08:31
  Is your DPS counter from the system from the end of run.
• 1:08:37
  Same with DPS Flats. If you had the FSS, that would
• 1:08:42
  have been there but everybody lost F SS at the beginning of
• 1:08:46
  the day. And January first.
• 1:08:51
  I do not know what see our flag star to somebody else carry
• 1:08:55
  around it, okay? Okay, so carry around.
• 1:09:01
  So I'm assuming that's the bundled Flats.
• 1:09:03
  No. That would be the one or tops,
• 1:09:12
  okay. Pull down.
• 1:09:15
  Is the time they believe it should take you to pull down
• 1:09:19
  your case? Okay, it's a average that was
• 1:09:24
  included in the mini mail in the 99 page, manual, based on your
• 1:09:28
  volume and your bundling system. Parcels.
• 1:09:36
  That is the number of parcels that you scan that are scan to
• 1:09:41
  your route. So, whatever the clerks scan at
• 1:09:45
  the office is put under Parcels here.
• 1:09:49
  Same with accountable mail, signature item.
• 1:09:54
  Carrier pick up forms when you scan them when you do the
• 1:09:57
  pickups, that will be listed there.
• 1:10:01
  Okay. Yeah.
• 1:10:03
  Go ahead. No, no, I was going to say,
• 1:10:05
  maybe you should hold my questions to the ends.
• 1:10:06
  He can get through this, okay? See, see, odie's and Customs.
• 1:10:13
  Do if you have cash on delivery or somebody has to pay the
• 1:10:18
  Customs toll for something, that would be posted there postage
• 1:10:22
  due is the next one, same thing. If somebody owes you cash and
• 1:10:27
  you go and pick up that cash, you would hit the postage due
• 1:10:30
  and that would show up there. Markups.
• 1:10:34
  That is standard based on mail volume and average of your
• 1:10:39
  markups from your mini mail survey.
• 1:10:43
  Powers labels from the mini mail survey.
• 1:10:46
  Office walk time for the distances that you were measured
• 1:10:50
  for. Load time.
• 1:10:53
  This was a big one. This was your start load vehicle
• 1:10:57
  to end load vehicle average for the year.
• 1:11:01
  All the times would be added up and then divide it by the number
• 1:11:05
  of days daily activities. That was your miscellaneous
• 1:11:14
  daily activities that you would do.
• 1:11:19
  Route length, it says LTM mapping.
• 1:11:22
  It's going to be the LTM mapping.
• 1:11:24
  If it doesn't match your official mileage that you had
• 1:11:28
  before, ask for a remeasurement with a certified odometer,
• 1:11:35
  Regular boxes from the DPM mapping.
• 1:11:38
  Technically, it's from your edit book.
• 1:11:41
  Now from the DPM mapping Centralized boxes also edit
• 1:11:47
  book, but they say DPM mapping total boxes is total boxes
• 1:11:53
  collection compartments. The numbers that you put in on
• 1:11:57
  the mapping program for collection compartments, will go
• 1:12:02
  here. Daily dis mounts comes from your
• 1:12:06
  edit book. Staley Dismount distance should
• 1:12:10
  have been measured with your measuring stick or whatever
• 1:12:14
  measuring wheel, whatever you use to get your distance to all
• 1:12:17
  your disc mounts. The reserve plot is open for
• 1:12:21
  whatever they want to add to this.
• 1:12:25
  Blue box collection is or how many blue boxes you have on your
• 1:12:28
  route. Service center unit.
• 1:12:32
  So if you have an Intermediate Unit that you go to, that's
• 1:12:35
  where that would go, that be the lock pouch.
• 1:12:40
  I believe. So the parent-child routes were
• 1:12:45
  you have to go to go to an intermediate office for?
• 1:12:52
  Yeah, or like up I saw one of those those offices here in
• 1:12:55
  Michigan where the rural carrier goes in, does the PO Boxes and
• 1:13:03
  then turns around and clerks the window for two hours.
• 1:13:10
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:13:14
  Then you have drive. That is your time from your
• 1:13:21
  mapping, both your make, your map, your mailbox mapping and
• 1:13:29
  your LTM. That is the time.
• 1:13:32
  It takes you to drive your route using the drive.
• 1:13:34
  Matrix no longer the 12 minutes per mile but multiple different
• 1:13:39
  versions of it but it is now Service.
• 1:13:48
  I am not sure what that one is. Do you guys know?
• 1:13:52
  I don't know. It just says it's from TPM and
• 1:13:54
  LP I'm mapping, so I'm not sure what that is.
• 1:13:58
  Maybe it's the distance to your gas station.
• 1:14:05
  I'm not sure, I know feeling. I know fuel is different, but
• 1:14:09
  that's yeah, that's that's based on a hundred miles but I think
• 1:14:12
  that might be your your distance to your gas station.
• 1:14:17
  Is what I'm thinking walk that is the distance from your Park
• 1:14:24
  point to the front door that you placed on the map as from your
• 1:14:31
  to pinpoints that you put on the map in a straight line.
• 1:14:35
  TCP is traffic control, Point fuel.
• 1:14:39
  That is for Only government vehicles.
• 1:14:45
  If you're in a POV this should be zero if it's anything else.
• 1:14:48
  It's wrong. But the government vehicles, it
• 1:14:52
  is based on 100 miles. So, for instance, on my route,
• 1:14:57
  it's 28 miles. I could get to feelings a week.
• 1:15:01
  So I would get 2 times the fueling on here versus somebody
• 1:15:05
  who has a 93 mile route would get a fueling every single day.
• 1:15:11
  volume Factor here is says yearly average volume So that
• 1:15:19
  is, if you guys have any numbers in your volume Factor.
• 1:15:23
  No, they've all zeros, okay? But we'll have to look into that
• 1:15:28
  because I'm like, I said, it could be that when you adjust
• 1:15:32
  your role, like, lose a few box, use lose a few boxes, add a few
• 1:15:36
  boxes or add a neighborhood or something like that.
• 1:15:38
  Is what I was reading drive speed.
• 1:15:42
  This is your average speed on the route based on the speed
• 1:15:47
  Matrix. X.
• 1:15:51
  Route coverage. This is your mail fact volume on
• 1:15:56
  your route. How many boxes on average you
• 1:16:00
  service a day? USPS vehicle used it will be a
• 1:16:07
  yes or a no. POV will be no government
• 1:16:12
  vehicle. Be yes.
• 1:16:15
  Verify mail, that is your fingering of the DPS, your stuff
• 1:16:23
  like that. Reload, does anybody know that
• 1:16:28
  one? When we would move mail,
• 1:16:39
  especially in POV routes when you'd have to stop and get out
• 1:16:44
  and physically move the mail to continue on, that's your reload.
• 1:16:49
  Okay? There was actually the reload
• 1:16:52
  now, is already a calculated average based on your mail
• 1:16:57
  volume. Yeah, which okay, yeah, which
• 1:17:00
  is, which is a lie because Mort Times not.
• 1:17:04
  You have to move trays of Spurs. More than you do the mail?
• 1:17:08
  Yeah, yeah. It was an average and I don't
• 1:17:11
  want time to test study offices. I actually remember because we
• 1:17:14
  had a start reload and reload feature and I know that they
• 1:17:19
  were collecting that data from those 4,000 test drugs at the
• 1:17:22
  time. And that's where the initially
• 1:17:24
  came up with an average to work with everything else.
• 1:17:27
  But yeah, that's the reload is having to the mail too.
• 1:17:34
  Where you have it when you deliver serviceable?
• 1:17:38
  Yes. To move it to her serviceable.
• 1:17:40
  Okay, the next one is registered and certified accepted.
• 1:17:46
  So for some people they have law firms.
• 1:17:49
  That send out certified. Nice.
• 1:17:52
  You scan all of them in that you accepted them.
• 1:17:55
  That's where that goes. If you don't pick up any
• 1:17:56
  registered or certified out on your route, this would be a
• 1:18:00
  zero. Money order applications.
• 1:18:07
  We are a post office on Wheels. Some people actually have money
• 1:18:10
  order applications and their and their trucks.
• 1:18:13
  So if you do those that would be perfect pair.
• 1:18:19
  Contact rural reach, this is a big one.
• 1:18:23
  They just came out with the instruction to do more rural
• 1:18:28
  reach and get more customers to send stuff through the postal
• 1:18:31
  service. If you sit there and you talk
• 1:18:33
  with your customer about sending things through the mail, whether
• 1:18:37
  it be Parcels, or it be first-class letters or you get
• 1:18:40
  them to do, eddm, or if you sit there and have a small
• 1:18:43
  conversation with one of your customers about how their day is
• 1:18:46
  going, reaching out to that. We're making sure they're okay,
• 1:18:49
  that's a real Reach customer. Put it in the scanner.
• 1:18:52
  You need to use that. As a big one, we don't get an
• 1:18:55
  automatic credit for it anymore. That's five minutes.
• 1:19:00
  Yeah, one where you discuss informed delivery?
• 1:19:04
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:19:05
  All right. Yes.
• 1:19:07
  And and then the next one stand up stock the automatic credit we
• 1:19:15
  had until our Rex. Come Al's stamp stock.
• 1:19:19
  We're allowed to carry stamp stock with us.
• 1:19:22
  A lot of postmasters don't want us to but you can actually ask
• 1:19:26
  the carry staff stock on your route.
• 1:19:28
  And if you do a stamp stock sale on your route, you in, put it in
• 1:19:32
  your car, in your scanner. Of course, some of us carry
• 1:19:35
  stamps in our back pockets. If somebody puts 63 cents in the
• 1:19:38
  mailbox, take that stamp out of your pocket, stick it on the
• 1:19:41
  envelope stamps and ship it. Stale. activity scans that is
• 1:19:51
  every skin you put in scanner, you get a credit for Hmm.
• 1:19:56
  And you get a Time factor for putting that bats can in Parcels
• 1:20:03
  this this is your parcel. This is for Parcels out on the
• 1:20:11
  route. The first one was the parcels
• 1:20:13
  that were routed to your route. This one is the ones you scan
• 1:20:18
  out on your route including unscanned parcel.
• 1:20:23
  Account mail signature item. If you deliver a certified
• 1:20:27
  registered or anything else that requires a signature, that's
• 1:20:31
  where that will show up. Carrier pick up items.
• 1:20:36
  This is your carrier pickup or your prepaid.
• 1:20:40
  Except in septums, That goes in that slot there.
• 1:20:45
  So if you have packages, they want you to do a minimum of five
• 1:20:49
  but I guarantee you every single customer.
• 1:20:51
  You have out there. Would want you to scan every
• 1:20:54
  parcel they give you so they can track it all the way through.
• 1:20:57
  From the time. You pick it up the time.
• 1:20:59
  It's delivered give that customer that benefit of seeing
• 1:21:04
  that, you picked it up and sent it off.
• 1:21:06
  Because if they have a parcel that the guy is calling and
• 1:21:09
  saying I never got this parcel and you didn't scan it to Up.
• 1:21:13
  They're going to say, well I never shipped this.
• 1:21:15
  We're going to have to send another one, but if you scan it
• 1:21:17
  with a picked up, they can track where it went and see where it
• 1:21:20
  ended up. So no fee odie's custom to do.
• 1:21:29
  Again, this is the same as the one up above, but this is when
• 1:21:32
  you deliver them versus receiving them on your route.
• 1:21:38
  Postage due again. Same thing in the office versus
• 1:21:43
  on the route and express deviation.
• 1:21:47
  If you have to leave your route in the middle of it to go back
• 1:21:50
  to the office, to get an Express, you start.
• 1:21:53
  Your deviation from the moment you decide to leave your route,
• 1:21:57
  just before you pull off from them, they all box.
• 1:21:59
  You hit start deviation and you don't hit in deviation until you
• 1:22:04
  return to that exact mailbox. And that time will be recorded
• 1:22:09
  right there. That also if it's I'm going to
• 1:22:11
  say since Express is now are six pm guarantee time.
• 1:22:18
  I and I most of us are usually, you know, we'll have them
• 1:22:22
  deliver its if it's it like something that's off at the end
• 1:22:25
  of the route. It's Christmastime you know
• 1:22:28
  you're not going to get to that spot by 6:00 and you have to
• 1:22:31
  deviate to go get that Express delivered by six.
• 1:22:35
  That's also when you would use that start.
• 1:22:37
  In deviation from the time you met.
• 1:22:40
  Leave that spot on your route. Go deliver it until you get back
• 1:22:44
  is also the start and end of deviation for the express.
• 1:22:47
  Yep. And if if you go and pick up the
• 1:22:50
  Express at the office and it's further down on your route from
• 1:22:54
  where you left it. Go right back to where you left
• 1:22:57
  off from your route in deviation continue around and deliver that
• 1:23:01
  Express. If it's before it, go deliver
• 1:23:04
  it. Then come back to that spot.
• 1:23:05
  That's the only way it works. Now, the last ones are the final
• 1:23:10
  numbers on your route. That show your standards.
• 1:23:14
  It shows your office, time, your street time, and your total, and
• 1:23:20
  the total is what they base your evaluation on now questions.
• 1:23:25
  I want to go back to the WSS letters and flats.
• 1:23:30
  Uh-huh. Explain again because you didn't
• 1:23:33
  so well, how the numbers are factored.
• 1:23:37
  The WSS letters and WSS Flats. You get a full coverage for the
• 1:23:44
  day, but you have to remember that's through a 365-day window
• 1:23:51
  - Sunday's 301 meaning. Exactly.
• 1:23:56
  So you take that one day and / 301.
• 1:24:00
  If you have 665 boxes, good that gives you two letters for the
• 1:24:06
  year Or to flash for the year. If you have one every week,
• 1:24:15
  guess what? That's now a hundred and four
• 1:24:18
  letters at the letter, volume the s that they give you four
• 1:24:24
  letters for the year. So that's not a big number, but
• 1:24:30
  it does make a difference. Especially if you, if you get
• 1:24:34
  them every week or you get them every three days or you have
• 1:24:37
  ones that come in every other week.
• 1:24:39
  Or once a month, they all add up because I was like, yeah.
• 1:24:43
  Because I was thinking because I'm assuming the same goes for
• 1:24:47
  the Box holder letters and flats.
• 1:24:49
  Yes, same exact thing because because, yeah, because we've got
• 1:24:53
  my office, we have a grocery store.
• 1:24:57
  Store ad that comes in every week.
• 1:25:01
  And so it's a box holder. It's a box holder flat every
• 1:25:04
  week. And so, you get, so, you get how
• 1:25:09
  many boxes do you have 845? Okay.
• 1:25:13
  Divide 845 by 301, and that's how many you get for each day on
• 1:25:24
  your average for the year, okay? It's almost 3:00.
• 1:25:27
  Okay, and then you go, you also have to figure that three times
• 1:25:33
  52 And that's your, that's your volume factor.
• 1:25:38
  For just valve to the Box holder that comes every week.
• 1:25:44
  I know it's it's convoluted and complicated and math is one of
• 1:25:48
  my strong suits and it confuses the crap out of me.
• 1:25:54
  Remember, this system was this was devised by Engineers so
• 1:25:57
  these are smart people who put this together.
• 1:25:59
  They haven't / Engineers input from managers who haven't
• 1:26:11
  carried mail and a long time and unions.
• 1:26:14
  Union management that hasn't carried in a long time.
• 1:26:17
  Yeah. So, and I say that with all due
• 1:26:22
  respect my brother, my brother is an engineer.
• 1:26:24
  So I have I have I have a lot of friends who are engineers and I
• 1:26:30
  have friends who work on on jet engines and cars and things like
• 1:26:37
  that. And I can tell you, you get them
• 1:26:40
  into a room and start talking about something other than
• 1:26:42
  engineering and they look like a fish out of water.
• 1:26:44
  Yeah, I always said when I always joke with my brother and
• 1:26:48
  snow you can do you can do Earth without numbers, but you can't
• 1:26:52
  balance a checkbook. Yeah.
• 1:26:55
  Yep. Exactly Exactly.
• 1:26:58
  But if it is, it's a compound convoluted calculation.
• 1:27:04
  That after you actually understand how all the numbers
• 1:27:08
  go together, make a lot more sense.
• 1:27:12
  So next question. Yeah, thanks.
• 1:27:17
  Yeah, no problem. I guess, I guess, why are we
• 1:27:20
  getting a keystroke? Okay, for on the office time for
• 1:27:24
  Carrier, pick up forms and it says, because activity activity
• 1:27:29
  keystroke. Oh, because you're not a just
• 1:27:32
  happy that they copied it from the delivery side.
• 1:27:35
  But it's actually, it's actually counting it in both, those
• 1:27:39
  slots, when you hit that key stroke.
• 1:27:41
  So, when you go out, Onto the field and you Scandal sheet.
• 1:27:44
  It's giving you a credit for it out on the street but it's also
• 1:27:47
  giving you a credit from you getting it and putting it where
• 1:27:50
  it's close to the goal, okay? You to take it out to the
• 1:27:52
  street, okay? So for example, so on mine, I'm
• 1:27:58
  looking at my 4241 right now so for carry a pick up items on
• 1:28:02
  Street time I've got four minutes for Carrier pickups but
• 1:28:05
  in my office time for Carrier pick up forms.
• 1:28:07
  I have a zero Okay, so you get more time on the street than you
• 1:28:15
  do in the office. Okay.
• 1:28:18
  I just and it's probably that way because I don't I don't get
• 1:28:23
  a lot of I have I have two or three customers who send stuff
• 1:28:30
  out on a non regular basis. Let's put it that way.
• 1:28:35
  Yeah. You know it's not like it's not
• 1:28:37
  like the girl in my office is service is the UPS Store and
• 1:28:42
  we'll come back with more Parcels than she came back.
• 1:28:44
  Then she went out with, you know, especially at Christmas
• 1:28:48
  Yeah, and that's the other thing is like me.
• 1:28:50
  I have customers that they don't put in a pickup form, they just
• 1:28:54
  stick a flag up and leave a note in their mailbox, to get the
• 1:28:57
  package at the front door or wherever they put it.
• 1:28:59
  So I don't get Carrie. I don't get pickup request for
• 1:29:02
  that but I still get the credit for the parcels.
• 1:29:04
  Yeah. Yeah, I noticed they notified
• 1:29:07
  you that there's a pickup. Yes.
• 1:29:11
  So you should get carrier pick up.
• 1:29:13
  You don't get the Manifest credit.
• 1:29:15
  Yes, but I still get the carrier pickup.
• 1:29:18
  I get the carrier pick up and I also do a door miscellaneous
• 1:29:21
  game. Are you glad we did?
• 1:29:30
  Because to get the credit to the door for that day and I was told
• 1:29:35
  that trip to door is two or more.
• 1:29:38
  So if you hear through for deliveries yeah I would have
• 1:29:42
  told the truth or is your room? But if you do a pick up, this is
• 1:29:49
  what I was told. But all I would say in, at least
• 1:29:56
  in my district my addr has told us when it comes to the carrier
• 1:30:01
  pickups, little more than five pieces and I agree with you
• 1:30:05
  100%. It is customer service to scan
• 1:30:07
  them but it is at management approval to scan more, if the
• 1:30:16
  customer wants them done, then the customers should quit in A
• 1:30:23
  written request stating that they want one or, you know, the
• 1:30:28
  reasoning that they want or need them scan on a daily basis or
• 1:30:32
  that were off them. And management gives the
• 1:30:36
  approval to do it. Yeah, that's the other side of
• 1:30:43
  this. You get all these different
• 1:30:44
  managers and Union people that give different answers to
• 1:30:48
  everything that's going on. But I'm looking at this from the
• 1:30:52
  aspect of what credits can I do honestly and back up with some
• 1:31:00
  kind of fact as to why I'm doing them.
• 1:31:04
  And I'm going to an according to the sheet on the, on the quick
• 1:31:09
  reference guide. The trip to door, says two or
• 1:31:13
  more for parcel delivery. When you have to go to the door
• 1:31:19
  multiple times for Parcels, you use trip to door the door,
• 1:31:23
  miscellaneous is for any trips to the door.
• 1:31:26
  You have to do. So, if you're doing a carrier
• 1:31:30
  pick up, that would be a door miscellaneous.
• 1:31:32
  You were told if it's old male, you're supposed to do a door
• 1:31:36
  miscellaneous, but now they've changed that over curly
• 1:31:38
  unscanned parcel when you have more than eight letters.
• 1:31:44
  Well, it's always been eight or more.
• 1:31:49
  Yeah. And but at the beginning it was
• 1:31:52
  to add or miscellaneous because that's basically like a parcel
• 1:31:55
  regret it if anyone has former. Yeah and now it's an unscanned
• 1:32:04
  parcel. Just period to period.
• 1:32:08
  If it's over eight pieces, it's a nun.
• 1:32:10
  Scan parcel, period. Okay, and you can say to door as
• 1:32:15
  your location. So yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:32:18
  So, so one of my in frequent customers, doesn't leave me a
• 1:32:23
  note, doesn't put in a carrier pickup request or the to the
• 1:32:27
  computer. I'll just open up her CV.
• 1:32:29
  You and she'll have a bunch of small Parcels outgoing.
• 1:32:36
  Where they at inner mail slot in the mail slot?
• 1:32:40
  Yeah, it's still there and it's still a pickup but it's just
• 1:32:44
  your standard carrier. Pick up, right there at the
• 1:32:47
  mailbox is, are you doing? Should I still be doing carrier
• 1:32:50
  pick up? Or should I be doing prepaid
• 1:32:52
  acceptance under carrier Place cup?
• 1:32:54
  The Just no man. It just just is there the the
• 1:32:59
  fill and the Manifest. Yeah, no one technically.
• 1:33:06
  Over your pickup, qualifier when collecting them out of the box
• 1:33:11
  or what not is, if it's over two pounds or it's a priority, that
• 1:33:16
  would be the carrier pick up option.
• 1:33:20
  Qualifier. No.
• 1:33:22
  All right, how many of us carry a scale in our mail in our mail
• 1:33:25
  truck? Well, I will tell you is for
• 1:33:28
  the, for the customer. I'm thinking about none of them
• 1:33:30
  are over two pounds. Yeah.
• 1:33:31
  And I think they all go first class.
• 1:33:34
  So, I've not our job to weigh them, that's the clerk's job
• 1:33:40
  well and at this point, you know, honestly I'm going to say
• 1:33:44
  what works best for you. Yep.
• 1:33:47
  Another act like you can do a courier pick up.
• 1:33:49
  You can do prepaid acceptance. Yep, it just fit the other the
• 1:33:53
  other thing too. And Because people throw this
• 1:33:58
  word around manifest. Okay, there's the gosh, I can't
• 1:34:06
  remember the form the form. You a printout from the
• 1:34:09
  computer, that the computer generated, carrier pick up form.
• 1:34:13
  Okay, carrier pickup request? Yeah.
• 1:34:16
  Because because we have within our office, we have, we have
• 1:34:21
  businesses that send out parcels and they, you know, do the do
• 1:34:28
  the thing where they put them all on one form.
• 1:34:32
  Mhm. To manifest.
• 1:34:35
  That's the Manifest. Yeah, it is.
• 1:34:38
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:34:39
  Because people are people are conflating calling the carrier
• 1:34:43
  pickup request to manifest and they do two different things and
• 1:34:48
  Scandal equal number Okay, they're not the complaint
• 1:34:52
  number, they're not the same form number and they do
• 1:34:55
  different things because if you scanned, the you scan the, the
• 1:35:00
  carrier pickup request that does not.
• 1:35:05
  Put the put on tracking numbers in the system, doesn't put the
• 1:35:08
  tracking numbers into the system, scanning the Manifest
• 1:35:12
  where you may have, you know, 20 50 100 Parcels on one-on-one
• 1:35:18
  manifest, you scan that all those parcel numbers, all those
• 1:35:21
  tracking numbers, get put in the system.
• 1:35:24
  All those tracking numbers are considered picked up, right?
• 1:35:27
  And they and they go and they go and they're in the system.
• 1:35:31
  So I want to be, I want to start clarifying, what we're carrier
• 1:35:37
  pickup is different from a manifest, yes, correct way it
• 1:35:42
  works the way it works in the way to tell the difference.
• 1:35:45
  It carrier pickup request comes from management, it gets handed
• 1:35:50
  to you. After case the pickup manifest
• 1:35:55
  is printed by the shipper by the customer.
• 1:35:58
  Yep. Yep.
• 1:36:00
  I whoever shipping It and with placed with the packages and we
• 1:36:05
  scan it with Ethel, where we pick it up and we leave the
• 1:36:08
  Manifest with the customer, right?
• 1:36:12
  Yep. The package is go with us the
• 1:36:14
  Manifest days with the customer. The carrier pickup request comes
• 1:36:18
  back with us to the office. Circular table visible because
• 1:36:33
  all that's doing is once you scan that when you pick it up,
• 1:36:36
  it's closing out that pickup order by the management and in
• 1:36:40
  the system. Yeah, it's recognizing that,
• 1:36:42
  yes, I picked it up or no, there was nothing to pick up because
• 1:36:46
  we have businesses that I just have the standing orders that
• 1:36:49
  come every day and some days, they may not have anything.
• 1:36:51
  So you know, you're at least acknowledging that you did the
• 1:36:56
  attempt on that pickup notice, whether it was a yes or no and
• 1:36:59
  it's closing out that order for the day when you scan it, And
• 1:37:05
  then yes, that if your question manifest, the carrier on the
• 1:37:09
  customer side, should have everything connected.
• 1:37:12
  That's, yeah. So you know, like I said with on
• 1:37:16
  the one route, we've got the carrier that has the pickup
• 1:37:19
  automatic request unless he's on vacation and as males on hold
• 1:37:24
  and we don't have step. Obviously, we don't get the
• 1:37:26
  pickup request but we get the pickup request daily, we go
• 1:37:29
  there. He usually has asked and she or
• 1:37:34
  Us to print out what I do is I okay how many packages do I have
• 1:37:38
  eyeverify? I put in the number and then
• 1:37:42
  I'll scan I'll pick up five of them scan them and then after I
• 1:37:46
  do that then I'll go ahead and scan as a his manifest in that
• 1:37:51
  way, everything is logged. And then I'm done with that one.
• 1:37:55
  So Hey, do we have any other questions on the 4241?
• 1:38:07
  Let me think I want. I'm wondering what that service
• 1:38:11
  is because I got over 1,000 minutes in there for service.
• 1:38:18
  Wow, I don't know. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:38:23
  I don't know what I'm doing but I'm Gonna Keep there was a, I
• 1:38:37
  got to figure out. We need to find out what that is
• 1:38:40
  because I need to keep doing that, but I will.
• 1:38:43
  But what the in the wrecks in the wrecks manual, there was a
• 1:38:47
  Maybe it was another wreck spaniel.
• 1:38:49
  It was in the Q&A. They gave a thing where you
• 1:38:53
  could do a rough determination of what your drive time would be
• 1:38:59
  using the drive speed Matrix and Iran.
• 1:39:03
  That and and I just redid the numbers here and I was and that
• 1:39:08
  rough guy they gave you is I'll tell you is pretty darn close to
• 1:39:11
  what I came to. What I'm getting Credit in here
• 1:39:15
  and it's like I said my drive time.
• 1:39:17
  Went up like based on the old compared the old system went up.
• 1:39:22
  Almost two hours. Yeah.
• 1:39:25
  And that's that's the key is the smaller.
• 1:39:27
  The smaller. The distance on the route for
• 1:39:29
  mailboxes. The greater the dry time Matrix.
• 1:39:34
  Yeah. If your boxes are all really
• 1:39:37
  close together. Your boxes are really close
• 1:39:40
  together. You're getting almost 20 minutes
• 1:39:42
  a mile. Yeah.
• 1:39:43
  If your boxes are really, really far apart, you're only getting
• 1:39:46
  nine minutes. Am I?
• 1:39:46
  Well, 95% of my route is CB use Oh yeah.
• 1:39:52
  I got 40. So it is a 44.
• 1:39:55
  I got 44 curb boxes and let's see. 13.
• 1:40:03
  Let's see about 10 of them. Let's see 4713.
• 1:40:11
  About about about 20, about half of them are three or four on a
• 1:40:18
  post and then the rest are individual, you know, driveway
• 1:40:23
  to driveway. Yeah, so so yeah.
• 1:40:30
  No, that was a really great explanation of everything on
• 1:40:35
  here, appreciate that, that's really good.
• 1:40:40
  Any other questions anybody? It's a lot to take in.
• 1:40:50
  It's a lot to take in, but yeah, it's important.
• 1:40:57
  Yeah. Who did I just blow?
• 1:41:10
  Everybody's mind so much that we don't can't talk about anything
• 1:41:12
  else anymore. Like, whoa.
• 1:41:17
  Well, let me, let me lick got to let that marinate a little bit.
• 1:41:22
  I think he's in bills, quiet. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:33
  I think he fell asleep. Listening to me.
• 1:41:35
  Talk. Yeah.
• 1:41:37
  I turn my hearing aid off. I do have one in front of me and
• 1:41:52
  I was like, oh okay. I'm going to go double-check
• 1:41:55
  that when I get back to the office tomorrow.
• 1:41:57
  Yep. Yeah, when you get going, you
• 1:42:01
  get back to your 4241. A then 4241 Elms if you have
• 1:42:05
  discrepancies. Highlight them.
• 1:42:08
  Yeah. Highlight them.
• 1:42:10
  Take them to management and be like these are incorrect and
• 1:42:13
  then turn around. And if they don't want to fix
• 1:42:16
  them grieve, it will hold it a step too, until till the
• 1:42:21
  national gets their stuff for Saul.
• 1:42:23
  Hey, I'm not not a question per se.
• 1:42:27
  Well, I guess it is for blue color.
• 1:42:29
  Section boxes. like I said, one of the one of the one of the
• 1:42:37
  other carriers in my office services at UPS Store on her
• 1:42:40
  route, And she takes, you know, she takes a tub of mail and they
• 1:42:46
  have a mail collection. They collect male outgoing mail.
• 1:42:54
  Okay, got a tub. Yeah, right.
• 1:42:56
  They've got a, they Right. But that it's in a cabinet and
• 1:43:00
  she has to open the cabinet swap the tub out, and then it's got a
• 1:43:04
  barcode. She has to scan to say that she
• 1:43:06
  picked it up. That's what exactly a bluebird.
• 1:43:10
  That's what I yeah that's what I said.
• 1:43:12
  So that's as we were kicking her out.
• 1:43:16
  I said you should get a blue box credit for that.
• 1:43:19
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:43:20
  If you have a if you have a blue box inside of it yeah you got to
• 1:43:23
  have that credit. Yeah.
• 1:43:24
  That she's got in fact, you know I mean there's days where you
• 1:43:29
  have to go back and you know because they've got that report
• 1:43:32
  that because management gets that report that says, hey have
• 1:43:37
  all the blue Have they been collected too early or whatever?
• 1:43:42
  And you know when I was in RCA oh I forgot to put it in my cart
• 1:43:46
  was back when I was in re, CA wasn't that long ago but yeah I
• 1:44:00
  had to go back to the UPS store and just run in and scan that so
• 1:44:04
  it clears the report. So I'll tell you that if that if
• 1:44:06
  she's not getting credit for that, You probably should
• 1:44:09
  finally either see if management will correct it or file a
• 1:44:13
  grievance on that because she took a pill away because she
• 1:44:17
  took a big hit and you know, every every like Gaulle said,
• 1:44:21
  every little bit helps. Yes, and everything, everything
• 1:44:25
  you want to grieve about the very first step you have to do
• 1:44:30
  is talk to a man commits per step, one discussion.
• 1:44:33
  Yep. You have to click on Yes, and
• 1:44:38
  then it then when management says I can't fix that, then you
• 1:44:41
  can file the grievance and you do not advise me that that's not
• 1:44:48
  the way first, you have to file an RFI before you can file a
• 1:44:52
  grievance and I said, excuse me. No, I says what what I can file,
• 1:44:58
  a grievance in our heart. What information am I
• 1:45:02
  requesting? If I haven't seen the grievance
• 1:45:04
  yet, Not my problem. Okay, yeah, it's white.
• 1:45:13
  He says, what you call me? I said that's white and I walked
• 1:45:18
  away, he come over because you can't, you can't talk to me like
• 1:45:22
  that on the floor. I said, when your dad stupid,
• 1:45:25
  I'll do worse, I'll just turn around.
• 1:45:30
  And I've done that, I've done that to a supervisor and I put
• 1:45:33
  him in his place. And when he, when he questioned
• 1:45:36
  me, He actually took me back for an II and he just basically
• 1:45:40
  berated me in the office about it.
• 1:45:42
  He said, I want to have a an official discussion about this
• 1:45:46
  and when he got done berating me I said, can I talk?
• 1:45:48
  I said, no, we're done. I turn around as I was walking
• 1:45:51
  out the doors and then I don't consider this an official
• 1:45:53
  discussion because we really didn't discuss anything to
• 1:45:58
  remember. You're equal to R equals with
• 1:46:05
  that man was management at that time.
• 1:46:08
  So if they want to be assholes to you you can toss it right
• 1:46:12
  back. Get right back.
• 1:46:13
  Shit that they can do to you about it.
• 1:46:17
  Yeah, and also and walk out while they're yelling at you and
• 1:46:23
  say sorry. I'm not going to subject myself
• 1:46:27
  to a hostile work environment. Here's your the other side of it
• 1:46:32
  is also also on that side too, as a steward, you want to take
• 1:46:38
  that manager out of their office, do not.
• 1:46:42
  Let them have their discussions in the with you in their office
• 1:46:46
  because They still will feel like they have the power over
• 1:46:49
  you when they're sitting at their desk and you're on the
• 1:46:52
  other side of it. Take them out, put them in a
• 1:46:55
  conference room. I don't care if you take them
• 1:46:57
  out onto the back, doc of the post office into the break room
• 1:47:01
  into the bathroom long. As you're the same sex, I'll be
• 1:47:06
  going into the opposite. Sexes bathroom.
• 1:47:17
  I did not say what I did. I said as the opposite sex, I
• 1:47:20
  didn't say if you identify as the opposite effect of what?
• 1:47:24
  What you were born? As that's different story.
• 1:47:27
  So if you identify as a female, then you shouldn't be going in
• 1:47:31
  the male bathroom to have a discussion with the other male
• 1:47:34
  supervisor when you shouldn't also be taking the male
• 1:47:38
  supervisor into the female bathroom.
• 1:47:40
  Well, if you'd been advised, the female, should you be working in
• 1:47:44
  the mail room? but anyways, continuing
• 1:48:03
  continuing with this discussion of the Fallout of the Ralph We
• 1:48:13
  got to stay on track here. We're getting up there in time.
• 1:48:18
  So is there anything you guys want to tell carriers?
• 1:48:25
  About this to help them in this situation.
• 1:48:29
  Bill, you first. No, I don't want to go first
• 1:48:49
  within a framework of where they expected to be.
• 1:48:53
  So they're kind of happy, you know, they were nervous about
• 1:48:57
  this whole situation. I think that Basically, if you
• 1:49:04
  haven't been doing the wreck scans all this time for the past
• 1:49:09
  and especially my office for the past five years, this is what's
• 1:49:13
  coming back to bite you in the ass.
• 1:49:16
  Look at your numbers. Ask questions.
• 1:49:18
  If you have a local Steward, you know, quite question them.
• 1:49:21
  Take direction from them again. Go to your supervisor, discuss
• 1:49:25
  it before you go filing, a grievance or crying to the
• 1:49:28
  Stuart know what you're talking about, folks.
• 1:49:33
  And check every every little nook and cranny for anything
• 1:49:37
  that's missing or anything that seems ask you.
• 1:49:40
  This is one of those situations where you have an opportunity to
• 1:49:44
  correct this before it goes into effect.
• 1:49:48
  And again, when the the LTM comes available for us, to make
• 1:49:55
  adjustments, make sure you're getting your dis Mouse.
• 1:49:58
  Make sure you're getting your CD use as as far as the collection
• 1:50:03
  compartments and their parcel lockers everything that you
• 1:50:07
  didn't pay attention to, you better start paying attention to
• 1:50:13
  because folks that I'm telling you it, when I see some of these
• 1:50:17
  comments about the money's people are missing effort, you
• 1:50:21
  know, my heart breaks warm. Absolutely.
• 1:50:24
  If you didn't do your job, then, you know, it's on you it's not
• 1:50:28
  on anybody else but yourself So folks you know, if it doesn't go
• 1:50:35
  in the scanner it doesn't go on your wallet.
• 1:50:37
  I've said that a hundred times of my office I'll preach it
• 1:50:41
  until the day I retire and you know I can only hold your hands
• 1:50:46
  so far at some point you have to step up for yourself.
• 1:50:49
  Yeah. Just echoing, it's been my
• 1:51:00
  philosophy and I've said it, in social media posts before and
• 1:51:07
  that is that no one should care more about your paycheck, then
• 1:51:10
  you can, this is you caring about your paycheck.
• 1:51:16
  I also want to say that this is not the time and believe me, I'm
• 1:51:19
  seeing the just all kinds of, I'm getting out of the Union.
• 1:51:22
  This, all the Union's fault. How could the union a group of
• 1:51:25
  agreed to this? Folks, this is not the time to
• 1:51:31
  jump ship. Now this this is when you
• 1:51:34
  really, really need to understand that a union is every
• 1:51:37
  member, it's not that it's not the national board, it's not,
• 1:51:41
  it's not just the national board, it's not just your
• 1:51:44
  Steward. If you are paying dues then you
• 1:51:48
  are the union and you need to, we need to stand strong and
• 1:51:52
  stand for each other. So I know I one of the social
• 1:51:59
  media groups, ladies said, hey don't don't be attacking other
• 1:52:02
  carriers when they're posting on here.
• 1:52:04
  You know, while can't hit, you know, we need to stick together
• 1:52:09
  the first Postmaster, General of the United States.
• 1:52:11
  Benjamin Franklin said it best, you know.
• 1:52:14
  We must all hang together or we will surely hang separately.
• 1:52:17
  So There you go. That's that's awesome there.
• 1:52:22
  Mike. Yeah it's this has been a this
• 1:52:27
  is the wake-up call and again this is not the Union's fault.
• 1:52:32
  Rex was put in place via arbitration in 2012.
• 1:52:37
  Yes, that was Thirty thirteen, eleven eleven, eleven years ago,
• 1:52:42
  by bunch of math. And yes, this This was handed to
• 1:52:51
  us via arbitration 11 years ago. Is it perfect?
• 1:52:55
  Not at all. Is it does a still to be
• 1:52:59
  tweaked? Definitely.
• 1:53:03
  This is, I mean, but this is just the first initial wake-up
• 1:53:08
  call. It is now it's not a two to four
• 1:53:11
  week. Count into February first part
• 1:53:16
  of March, that determines your evaluations for the year.
• 1:53:21
  This is something that your evaluation is going to be what
• 1:53:25
  you put into it. Literally, what you put into
• 1:53:29
  that scanner is go it's going to affect a good portion of your
• 1:53:33
  evaluations. Yes the Box count or the drop it
• 1:53:39
  from two minutes to one point, two minutes sucks for some
• 1:53:43
  rotes. The drive speed Matrix for those
• 1:53:46
  higher Mi routes with less boxes Yes, it sucks.
• 1:53:53
  Unfortunately, I hate to say it is what it is on those ends but
• 1:53:58
  unless you all of a sudden and those really rural areas get a
• 1:54:03
  massive build somewhere in more boxes, it's going to hurt for a
• 1:54:07
  little bit. It really is and it's hard to
• 1:54:10
  deal with for a lot of us October you know with those when
• 1:54:17
  we have the next mini mail survey at the end of September
• 1:54:20
  And no evaluations and October. Are we going to know where we're
• 1:54:23
  at, again? Maybe not.
• 1:54:26
  I know volumes are dropping. Even more Parcels.
• 1:54:29
  I know in my area, you know, we had those couple of years with
• 1:54:33
  covid, with Amazon and, and now, all of a sudden, we have
• 1:54:37
  contractors, delivering Amazon in our area, and our Parcels
• 1:54:41
  have started to dwindle again. Those last couple months, so
• 1:54:45
  it's going to be up in the air, unfortunately.
• 1:54:49
  Again, but definitely go over your 4241.
• 1:54:53
  A's go over your 4241 Em's. You know, I would say, hey, take
• 1:55:00
  a poem, go over with a fine-tooth comb.
• 1:55:02
  No, don't take a poem that's an into shift Duty.
• 1:55:05
  Get paid for that. Get paid for that and you know
• 1:55:15
  Josh is out you got a little bit of a coughing throat issue.
• 1:55:19
  So he went Ahead and departed with us this evening.
• 1:55:22
  So we'll skip over him and yeah, stewards definitely be prepared
• 1:55:28
  for Lots of questions, lots of upsets.
• 1:55:36
  And basically, I mean, it's going to be hard on us.
• 1:55:39
  I mean, maybe not, so not all of us, but we're all going to be
• 1:55:45
  handling something or another in our offices.
• 1:55:48
  I know that let me disagree with their young lady about.
• 1:55:53
  It's not the Union's fault. It is the Union's fault.
• 1:55:56
  I mean, you know, you had all this time during covid that a
• 1:56:00
  lot of work could be done, that never got done.
• 1:56:02
  Yes, no, I don't agree with that.
• 1:56:04
  Yeah, yeah, we had, we had them come out and say, four years.
• 1:56:09
  We've known about their your computer systems yet.
• 1:56:13
  Nothing was done about it. Okay, we've had years where we
• 1:56:17
  haven't had the transparency that we should have.
• 1:56:20
  What, what did the Union do about it?
• 1:56:23
  They just kept buying excuses from the post office.
• 1:56:26
  Like I said before, at the National Convention, if I was,
• 1:56:30
  you know, the president of this Union during covid, I'd have
• 1:56:33
  been down there every damn day. With a mask on, on the door and
• 1:56:40
  saying, yo, what the hell's going on?
• 1:56:43
  No, but they did and sat on their asses.
• 1:56:52
  And that's the Union's fault. I do.
• 1:56:56
  It's on both side, management management and Union, it's on
• 1:57:00
  both sides. This whole thing could have been
• 1:57:02
  solved three years ago we could have had account in 2019.
• 1:57:07
  We could have had a count in 2020.
• 1:57:09
  Everything they should have stalled, everything until
• 1:57:12
  everything became transparent, readily available and verifiable
• 1:57:17
  within 48 Hours of any numbers being put up.
• 1:57:20
  Yeah, I mean the whole time, you know, their toe know, there'll
• 1:57:24
  be a dead. A base of the website and you'll
• 1:57:26
  be able to log into it and check your numbers and blah blah blah.
• 1:57:29
  And then they finally just came to us all.
• 1:57:32
  Not that long ago saying yeah that's not even going to be
• 1:57:34
  feasible. No, wait, it's been 11 years. 11
• 1:57:39
  years in the making And folks, please don't forget her past
• 1:57:45
  five years, you've been working your ass off the living Amazon,
• 1:57:49
  and you've gotten no renew murmuration out of it
• 1:57:51
  whatsoever. That's the other side of it.
• 1:57:55
  Yeah, that we've all worked our butts off through covid and all
• 1:57:58
  that stuff. And we have absolutely nothing
• 1:58:00
  to show for it. Especially the subs, subs were
• 1:58:05
  the unsung heroes through covid and they have absolutely nothing
• 1:58:09
  to show for it either and now they're getting read out of
• 1:58:12
  route times and management gets a three percent raise and didn't
• 1:58:17
  even have to wait for it. Yeah, we have it takes 11
• 1:58:21
  months, to get our back pay. But man, talk about that next
• 1:58:26
  week but management gets a three percent raise.
• 1:58:31
  And then we turn around and get shit on with these evaluations
• 1:58:38
  because they can't get their shit together.
• 1:58:41
  To make this system work that they had 11 years now to, you
• 1:58:46
  know, and initially when that arbitration came out and with
• 1:58:50
  the engineers they wanted it in place in 2015.
• 1:58:54
  Yep. So we're already 8 years past
• 1:58:57
  when it was supposed to be in place.
• 1:59:00
  Eight years eight, you're supposed to figure it out now
• 1:59:06
  and you're still going to pass the blame off on all the postal
• 1:59:10
  reorganization. Ation and all those initial
• 1:59:12
  people are now replaced with people that didn't know what was
• 1:59:15
  going on and eight years. People eat years since this was
• 1:59:21
  initially supposed to be in place.
• 1:59:24
  Remember if it would have benefited the post office, it
• 1:59:27
  would have been in place in 2015.
• 1:59:29
  Yep, yes. And now if it had benefited now,
• 1:59:33
  it actually benefits the post office for them to put it out
• 1:59:36
  now and that's why I felt rude. Yep, so we're hitting up on two
• 1:59:45
  hours here guys. So we're going to wrap it up for
• 1:59:48
  tonight resolutions again had to take a back seat, we will get to
• 1:59:54
  those. I promise we're way more
• 1:59:58
  important and we still have time before we Put them up to our
• 2:00:01
  counties to go to State Convention or to whether it be
• 2:00:11
  next week. I don't know yet.
• 2:00:13
  We'll see what's going on because I can't quite see what
• 2:00:15
  new comes out. Yeah, he's from though.
• 2:00:19
  So either will either going to start on the next week or
• 2:00:22
  definitely the week after we may just be a whole episode
• 2:00:26
  dedicated or as resolutions. We're getting there though.
• 2:00:28
  Well, we'll have fun, we'll have to do a special episode in the
• 2:00:31
  middle of the week. We could do that to you to do
• 2:00:35
  that. We can do that.
• 2:00:37
  Yeah, we may think about that as things go on.
• 2:00:40
  Let's get through this week, definitely.
• 2:00:42
  For sure. Yeah.
• 2:00:45
  Not this week, not this week please.
• 2:00:50
  Yeah, but that do guys, we're gonna wrap it up for tonight.
• 2:00:55
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• 2:00:59
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• 2:01:16
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  You and find the information that you're looking for and put
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  you in the right direction, is anybody else have anything else
• 2:02:16
  tonight? All right, I have one thing go
• 2:02:20
  ahead. Mike, if anyone is interested in
• 2:02:28
  attending the mid states conference.
• 2:02:30
  In May the post office box for registrations will remain open
• 2:02:37
  until May 1st and they will accept registrations until May
• 2:02:41
  1st. If I saw your message, I did
• 2:02:44
  announce that but thank you for okay that again I wasn't wasn't
• 2:02:49
  sure if you're going to put that out, that's okay.
• 2:02:52
  We want it's a good exotic women then where is that?
• 2:02:55
  Because I have 68 days of annual, leave the burn up.
• 2:02:59
  Wichita, he is in went to the Drury Plaza Hotel in Wichita,
• 2:03:04
  Kansas and nobody wants to go to Wichita Kansas.
• 2:03:07
  Come on, man. Jeez.
• 2:03:09
  Well good, even. Even if you don't go to the
• 2:03:11
  conference, you can at least Chase tornadoes.
• 2:03:13
  Rose. No, they'll chase me.
• 2:03:38
  It's in a registration. But I'm going to be there
• 2:03:41
  because I'm not buying any food at this point.
• 2:03:42
  So I'm just going to register. Anyway.
• 2:03:45
  Okay. So again, excited myself, my
• 2:03:48
  definitely James should be there.
• 2:03:52
  Well, I'll be there, you know, want to have conversations with
• 2:03:54
  us when we're outside of the Ring of more Roar that goes on
• 2:04:00
  inside the conference Hall. I think this myth States might
• 2:04:04
  be a little interesting. What do you think, Mike?
• 2:04:08
  That's why I was hope that's what I think about National
• 2:04:10
  Convention to but we'll see, maybe a little more content, the
• 2:04:14
  more concentrated group Yes, and I'm just going to put it out
• 2:04:18
  there for National with this whole thing with Rex going into
• 2:04:22
  a fight and we've talked about the engineers I did here.
• 2:04:28
  From Ronnie on. I think it was one of the zoom
• 2:04:33
  Stewart things quite possibly. It does sound like dr.
• 2:04:37
  Ken Miracle will be at National just putting it out there folks.
• 2:04:42
  So anyways, I'm that know I am. Well I'm hoping that you guys
• 2:04:51
  are going to have a metal detector look for Pitchfork and
• 2:04:55
  a bomb-sniffing, dog for the Torches.
• 2:05:00
  But I hope that people can be civil and respectful about this
• 2:05:05
  because, again, it's only 30% of the Union's fault and 70%
• 2:05:09
  Management's fault. I like those numbers the other
• 2:05:13
  30% and 70% because that's what they're giving us and cuts and
• 2:05:17
  cuts and raises on routes. So, it sounds good to me to
• 2:05:21
  blame like that. But remember, like everybody's
• 2:05:25
  been saying these scans are your life.
• 2:05:28
  Now, every scan you do puts pennies in your pocket, on your
• 2:05:32
  paycheck, and it may not be a lot.
• 2:05:35
  But remember, if you take a penny a day and double it every
• 2:05:40
  single day, You'll have more than a million dollars by the
• 2:05:43
  end of the year. Now, you're not going to get a
• 2:05:45
  million dollars on your route, only anybody will, but you can
• 2:05:50
  benefit Yourself by finding those scans that you're missing.
• 2:05:55
  Finding those parts that you can add to your route that aren't
• 2:06:00
  padding it. But our money you're leaving on
• 2:06:03
  the table. And the nobody wants to leave
• 2:06:07
  money on the table for the post office to pick back up and you
• 2:06:10
  could go do your skin. That's right at that line or
• 2:06:14
  those couple minutes will give you that extra hour.
• 2:06:18
  First exactly. Yes.
• 2:06:19
  Bill Folks, we are going to wrap it up tonight and we'll be back
• 2:06:27
  next week. Yeah.
• 2:06:30
  Yeah, I hope everybody has a decent week.
• 2:06:34
  Stay safe out there II, get the anger and the animosity and the
• 2:06:39
  haste. But let's try and be civilized
• 2:06:43
  adults, the best we can and we would come.
• 2:06:46
  We would tell you what topic we're talking about next week.
• 2:06:49
  But with the People changes of what's been going on.
• 2:06:53
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• 2:07:14
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