Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / EXCLUSIVE! Tesla board made Elon Musk post again Trump
Transcript
- 0:03Your ultimate authority for daily Elon Musk news.
- 0:06Exploring the world's biggest ideas with your host Will
- 0:09Walden. There's something new every day.
- 0:15Elon Musk is shifting his tone on Donald Trump after weeks of
- 0:19backlash triggered a rare internal warning from Tesla's
- 0:23board of directors. Public criticism surged
- 0:25following Musk's prominent role in Trump's second
- 0:28administration, and for the first time in years, Tesla's
- 0:31leadership told Musk directly that his political behavior was
- 0:34damaging the company. Multiple people familiar with
- 0:36that matter said the board told Musk he would need to walk back
- 0:40his statements about Trump and fast or risk losing his position
- 0:44at Tesla now. The shift began in late spring,
- 0:47shortly after Musk stood next to Trump at a White House press
- 0:50event and doubled down on the federal layoffs driven by Doge.
- 0:54The Department of Government Efficiency and Musk had
- 0:57personally overseen the cuts, defended them publicly and
- 1:00celebrated his success at the Oval Office.
- 1:03But inside Tesla, those moments created a different kind of
- 1:07panic. Key customers began cancelling
- 1:10orders. Sentiment on investor calls
- 1:13turned hostile. Tesla stock dipped sharply in
- 1:16the two weeks following Musk's highest profile political
- 1:19appearances. Board members took notice as
- 1:22well. Two directors, including one who
- 1:25has worked with Musk since Tesla's earliest years, warned
- 1:28that public association with Trump was becoming an
- 1:31existential threat to the brand. They argued that Musk's recent
- 1:35political comments were alienating core Tesla buyers,
- 1:38many of whom lean liberal or identify with climate activism.
- 1:42When director reportedly told him you can't sell clean energy
- 1:45cars while backing someone tearing up the EPA.
- 1:50Now Tesla's internal data team had already flagged concerning
- 1:53trends. Social media sentiment analysts
- 1:56showed Tesla's brand approval had dropped by double digits in
- 2:00key markets like California and New York.
- 2:02Suburban buyers wants a stable Tesla demographic.
- 2:05We're voicing concerns about Musk's comments on LGBTQ rights
- 2:10in his dismissive tone toward climate policy.
- 2:13Now Tesla's PR team, which Musk had famously dismantled,
- 2:16struggled to mount any kind of response.
- 2:19Privately, Elon Musk started softening his language.
- 2:23At a June meeting, he was asked about his role in Trump's second
- 2:27term, and for the first time, he didn't answer with his usual
- 2:30bravado. He said only that he believed in
- 2:34efficiency and wanted what was best for the country.
- 2:37He avoided using Trump's name entirely.
- 2:39The silence wasn't random. Sources close to the board say
- 2:43they told him that disassociating from Trump was
- 2:46non negotiable if he wanted to maintain his leadership
- 2:49position. The pressure came as Tesla faced
- 2:51other vulnerabilities. Its market global share had
- 2:55begun shrinking under intense competition from Chinese
- 2:59electric vehicle makers, and the company also remained under
- 3:03federal investigation for safety violations tied to Autopilot.
- 3:07Any appearance of political favoritism risked drawing
- 3:10unwanted attention to those cases, especially since Musk had
- 3:14helped dismantle the regulatory agencies meant to oversee them.
- 3:19That board members also raised concerns about brand consistency
- 3:22for years. Test the market itself as a
- 3:25clean tech leader, a climate first brand backed by
- 3:28innovation. Musk's political rhetoric was
- 3:30pulling the company into a completely different orbit.
- 3:34When Musk echoed Trump's anti trans talking points and used
- 3:37terms like woke mind virus, Tesla's legal and marketing
- 3:40teams received a wave of emails from longtime customers
- 3:44threatening to cancel orders. At the core of the board's
- 3:47concern was shareholder trust, though.
- 3:49After Musk's purchase of Twitter, Now X, many investors
- 3:52question whether he could balance Tesla's needs with his
- 3:55growing political ventures. The Trump alliance pushed those
- 3:58concerns over the edge. Major institutional investors
- 4:02warned that Musk's behavior was destabilizing the company's
- 4:04value. Some quietly began trimming
- 4:07their Tesla holdings. And the final breaking point
- 4:10came when Tesla's customer satisfaction rating dropped
- 4:13below 70% for the first time in the company's modern history.
- 4:17Internal polling attributed the decline directly to Musk's
- 4:20political activity and public persona.
- 4:24One director told colleagues that our product didn't get
- 4:27worse, our CEO did. And after the internal push,
- 4:32Musk began a slow retreat. He has not publicly apologized
- 4:35for his role in Trump's administration, but insiders say
- 4:38he issued a private statement to test the board members,
- 4:41acknowledging that he had let personal convictions interfere
- 4:44with company responsibilities. That message wasn't released
- 4:48publicly but was seen as the first step toward more visible
- 4:52damage control. And the Musk's recent tweets
- 4:55have also reflected this change. In early May, he posted praise
- 4:58for renewable energy initiatives in Europe, shared a photo of
- 5:01Tesla solar installation in Puerto Rico, and promoted an
- 5:05LGBTQ friendly hiring campaign at a Tesla plant in Nevada.
- 5:09Those posts are part of what some inside the company to
- 5:12describe as a coordinated effort to rebalance his image.
- 5:16Still, Tesla employees remain skeptical.
- 5:19Several said that unless Musk offers a direct public apology
- 5:23or makes a clean break from Trump, the damage may already be
- 5:26done. Others within the company fear
- 5:28that Musk's political ambitions will resurface after the
- 5:31immediate backlash fades. And at a June meeting, one
- 5:35director proposed setting up a formal political conduct clause
- 5:38in Musk's executive agreement, an unprecedented move at Tesla,
- 5:42and that proposal has not yet been approved.
- 5:45But its existence signals just how seriously the company now
- 5:48views the situation. And for Elon Musk, the tension
- 5:52between personal freedom and corporate leadership is becoming
- 5:55harder to manage. Built Tesla on the back of a
- 5:58progressive consumer base and that finds themselves at odds
- 6:02with much of his user base. That same community that built
- 6:07Tesla and made him so rich, they feel like he has turned his back
- 6:12on them. And now he's on a public
- 6:15campaign to wash away everything that he did with Donald Trump,
- 6:20all the negative things that he said about the community,
- 6:24everything he said about people. He's trying to wash that all
- 6:28away. That's what these people think.
- 6:30And it's public turn toward hard right politics alienated a
- 6:34segment of the market that I made Tesla one of the most
- 6:36admired brands in the entire world.
- 6:40Now, if Musk doesn't make a more explicit public correction, the
- 6:44company may face deeper problems.
- 6:47Now, we all know if you've been following this, that Elon Musk
- 6:52had broken ties with Trump on X, therefore he thinks that does
- 6:59the company well. I'm sure the shareholders found
- 7:02that good and people inside the company were impressed by that.
- 7:07But he also just said I may have taken things too far.
- 7:12He didn't say he disagreed or he's completely cutting ties
- 7:16with President Donald Trump. He's just said that he may have
- 7:19taken his actions a little bit too far, which if you know the
- 7:27policies in Tesla right now and what they're looking to put on
- 7:33his executive contract in the future.
- 7:36I think political leanings for Elon Musk or any CEO that may be
- 7:40replacing him, which isn't the case at this point, But anybody
- 7:43that may be replacing Elon Musk in the future, I think they
- 7:48should be held accountable for any political damage that they
- 7:52do to the brand. My own personal opinion, I think
- 7:56Elon Musk went wild for a little bit there on X and he's pulled
- 8:02back, He's apologized and for most of the people that used to
- 8:08support Elon Musk, they believe this is APR campaign.
- 8:11He doesn't really feel this way. Elon Musk is just posting these
- 8:16things on X. They even think the break from
- 8:18Donald Trump. Some people think the break from
- 8:20Donald Trump. Even internal people on the
- 8:22board think the break from Donald Trump or know that the
- 8:25break from Donald Trump is actually just APR stunt to
- 8:31convince just enough people from left-leaning policies, those
- 8:38kind of people to buy Teslas again.
- 8:41The stock is dipping, the sales are going away, and if you could
- 8:45get even a small margin of those people back by pretending to be
- 8:51done with Trump, because Trump, as was stated last week by
- 8:57Donald Trump on True Social and on X, that the easiest way to
- 9:01save money was to cut Elon Musk's contracts with Tesla and
- 9:06SpaceX and Neuralink and all of his companies.
- 9:10Donald Trump said that and then immediately Elon Musk blew up at
- 9:14him and said they're going to stop doing the Dragon
- 9:19spacecraft. That's the spacecraft that sends
- 9:22humans to the International Space Station into space.
- 9:25They're going to cut all of that funding and stop making new
- 9:30versions of the Dragon. They plan that anyway.
- 9:35Elon Musk in SpaceX has been planning that for years.
- 9:38They were going to decommission the older Dragon spacecrafts and
- 9:43just use the new versions. They can't get rid of the Dragon
- 9:48spacecraft. They have contracts with NASA,
- 9:49they have contracts with the government, they have private
- 9:52contracts that sends people to space.
- 9:54They can't decommission the whole thing right away, but they
- 9:58are planning to decommission the Dragon spacecraft when Starship
- 10:02comes fully online, when they can send people to space, to low
- 10:07Earth orbit and to the Moon and Mars, etcetera.
- 10:10With Starship, they're going to decommission that anyway.
- 10:14So the plan was there to decommission it.
- 10:16Elon Musk's didn't state a time frame.
- 10:19He said immediately, but who knows what crafts he was talking
- 10:23about. And this is because I have
- 10:26covered SpaceX for the last five years and know the insurance and
- 10:30outs of the company. And you know what they're what
- 10:32they're briefing briefings are and what has been talked about
- 10:35the Dragon spacecraft, the newer versions will stick around.
- 10:38The older versions decommissioned.
- 10:40So maybe Elon Musk was talking about that.
- 10:43And maybe this was what some people feel internally at Tesla.
- 10:49They feel that this was all smoke and mirrors to get Elon's
- 10:54companies back on track. Let me know what you think in
- 10:58the comments. If you have comments on your
- 11:00podcast platform, I'd greatly appreciate the community that
- 11:04we're building here and the family that we're building
- 11:07around these new stories. So please hit a hit the
- 11:09subscribe button or the follow button on your podcast platform
- 11:12right now on your app because that really helps us out too.
- 11:15That's all I'm going to ask for you.
- 11:17Just one second of your time to hit follow.
- 11:19I'm going to give you 5 more years of this podcast.
- 11:22I've already given you 5, I've given you 800 plus almost 900
- 11:26episodes now, something like that, almost 1000 episodes.
- 11:29We're coming up on 1000 soon. So I want to say thank you so
- 11:32much for being here today and take care of yourselves.
- 11:38Hey, thank you so much for listening today.
- 11:40I really do appreciate your support.
- 11:42If you could take a second and hit the subscribe or the follow
- 11:44button on whatever podcast platform that you're listening
- 11:47on right now, I greatly appreciate it.
- 11:49It helps out the show tremendously and you'll never
- 11:52miss an episode. And each episode is about 10
- 11:55minutes or less to get you caught up quickly.
- 11:58And please, if you want to support the show even more, go
- 12:01to patreon.com/stage Zero. And please take care of
- 12:06yourselves and each other. And I'll see you tomorrow.