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Kyler Murray to the Vikings, Dak Prescott’s Wedding Drama & Massive NFL Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume.
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Speaker 2: What is going on by people? Happy Fugazi Friday. I
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Speaker 2: am currently in Los Angeles and I had recorded the
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Speaker 2: majority of the mail bag yesterday. I was gonna do
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Speaker 2: a big mail bag, but I knew you never know
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Speaker 2: around this time of year, a trade assigning and what
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Speaker 2: happens get to my hotel. Kyler Murray is the starting
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Speaker 2: quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings JJ McCarthy career over in Minnesota.
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Speaker 2: So I said, okay, this is why I brought my microphone.
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Speaker 2: Let's do a little intro to the pod, a little
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Speaker 2: reaction to the story. We also have a Fugazi today
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Speaker 2: that revolves around an NFL quarterback that I wanted to
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Speaker 2: hit on. And then we'll dive into the mailbag at
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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those
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Speaker 2: da get your questions answered here on the show. That
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Speaker 2: will That will do it for this Friday. So again
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Speaker 2: we'll react to the Kyler news, We'll do a little
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Speaker 2: Fugazi and then we'll just fire into the mailbag. And
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Speaker 2: you guys know the Drill three and Out podcast. If
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Speaker 2: you listen on Collins, make sure you subscribe all the
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Speaker 2: videos on Netflix and let's just dive into the Vikings.
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Speaker 2: I think big picture eye, I think it's fair to
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Speaker 2: say they were pretty desperate, because I've been saying for
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Speaker 2: a while. I was like, I don't know, man, you're
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Speaker 2: telling me they're gonna sign Kyler Murray, Kevin O'Connell. They're
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Speaker 2: gonna lose their GM. He's not stake his career, but
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Speaker 2: last year was a disaster and now have potential back
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Speaker 2: to back seasons. Go from JJ McCarthy and then go
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Speaker 2: to Kyler Murray and the answer was clearly yeah. And
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Speaker 2: to me, like, I don't see it. I don't think
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Speaker 2: this is gonna work. I'm going to bet against the
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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings in twenty twenty six. But I also understand
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Speaker 2: where he's coming from. What were his other options. I
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Speaker 2: guess he could have got Derek Carr out of retirement,
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Speaker 2: but he has to trade for that player. You know,
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Speaker 2: he's not gonna trade a second round pick for Mac Jones.
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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers aren't giving him away. So he
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Speaker 2: gets Kyler Murray for basically nothing because the Arizona Cardinals
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Speaker 2: are paying all this money, and I think he is
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Speaker 2: hoping to strike oil. He gets the guy that we
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Speaker 2: saw years ago that first half of the season with
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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury, because he has a pretty consistent theme in
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Speaker 2: the NFL of guy gets injured, he's not a consistent player.
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Speaker 2: And this is a team because of some of their
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Speaker 2: core guys and because of some of the talent, because
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Speaker 2: of the coach they have that has high expectation. They
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Speaker 2: got Brian Floris, they got one of the best defensive
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Speaker 2: coordinators in the league. And this all gets back to
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Speaker 2: making a disastrous decision when it came to JJ McCarthy
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Speaker 2: and the ripple effects of Obviously they let Sam donoald
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Speaker 2: walk and going all in on JJ, and it blew
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Speaker 2: up in their face. So they have to go with
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Speaker 2: this situation, which again I'm just not buying. I don't
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Speaker 2: believe in it. I don't think it's going to work.
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Speaker 2: I saw there was a report his agent part of
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Speaker 2: the negotiation was they're not allowed to franchise them at
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Speaker 2: the end of the year. I'm pretty confident the Minnesota
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Speaker 2: Vikings aren't going to be in the business of franchise
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Speaker 2: tagging Kyler Murray in the spring of twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: But I guess they just didn't have any other options.
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Speaker 2: They couldn't roll out JJ McCarthy, whose career I would
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Speaker 2: say unofficially ended today with the Minnesota Vikings. You know,
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Speaker 2: and we have seen recent memory or some recent examples
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Speaker 2: of guys drafted really high that do not make it
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Speaker 2: the year three right, Trey Lance wasn't even on the team.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson's last year was beat out by Daniel Jones
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Speaker 2: with ease their careers end for their teams now. Anthony
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Speaker 2: Richardson played on the team throughout last year, but obviously
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Speaker 2: he's not gonna be on the team anymore now. And
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Speaker 2: I think this goes to the influx of money, the
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Speaker 2: pressure Now in the NFL, there has never been a
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Speaker 2: shorter clock on a player. You just don't get a
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Speaker 2: lot of time. And JJ McCarthy was drafted on a
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Speaker 2: team that is just good, that had expectations of not
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Speaker 2: just making the playoffs, but like winning playoff games, and
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Speaker 2: he showed last year like, we don't have time. This
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Speaker 2: isn't the UFL, this isn't college. We can't just develop
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Speaker 2: you year after year while you figure it out, and
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Speaker 2: we lose games, not in division with the up and
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Speaker 2: coming Chicago Bears, who are going to be really good
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Speaker 2: next year. I mean, the Lions have a well established
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Speaker 2: quarterback and some well established players. They're not going anywhere
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Speaker 2: in the Green Bay Packers resume as a franchise speaks
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Speaker 2: for itself. So our quarterback could sink our franchise, which
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Speaker 2: is essentially did last year. So I think this move
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Speaker 2: out of desperation. They get them for nothing, hoping that
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Speaker 2: their coach, who clearly is a big part of this,
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Speaker 2: can strike, you know, like he did a couple of
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Speaker 2: years ago with Sam Darnold. I don't necessarily see that.
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Speaker 2: I don't see a career resurgence like Sammy Sam through
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Speaker 2: thirty five touchdowns, they won fourteen games. I do not
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Speaker 2: envision that now. The guy we saw years ago, the
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Speaker 2: young version of Kyler, there was no arguing his talent,
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Speaker 2: the speed, the arm strength is pretty pretty accurate. But
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Speaker 2: as time has gone by, he's been banged up, can't
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Speaker 2: see anything, doesn't feel like he quite moves the same.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not buying this. I don't think it's necessarily
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Speaker 2: gonna work. I wouldn't say at all, like I don't
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Speaker 2: think they're gonna be a disaster like two or three wins.
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Speaker 2: But I think it's just gonna be a bumpy, up
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Speaker 2: and down year, and I don't envision them as a
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Speaker 2: playoff team with a quarterback room. Now, who knows of
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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is a lot to be on the team.
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Speaker 2: You know, the GM's been fired, they're gonna have a
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Speaker 2: new GM. Who knows what Kevin O'Connell thinks of him now?
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Speaker 2: You know he made that bold proclamation a couple of
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Speaker 2: years ago that players don't let down organizations. Organizations letdown players.
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Speaker 2: There's definitely some truth to that, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield,
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Speaker 2: but there's just some times like this is really hard.
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Speaker 2: It is extremely difficult to just make the NFL right
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Speaker 2: as just some random special team third string defense back.
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Speaker 2: It is borderline impossible to be a quarterback in the
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Speaker 2: NFL and be good. And I think JJ McCarthy's proven
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Speaker 2: like he's more like most guys get drafted, can't play.
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Speaker 2: He's not a starter, and there is so much to
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Speaker 2: work on. They tried to, you know, change his mechanics
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Speaker 2: last year, and it's just like that, they just don't
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Speaker 2: have time for that. And maybe a team, maybe you'd
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Speaker 2: be able to trade him to a team that has
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Speaker 2: nothing going for it, like the Arizona Cardinals, right, and
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Speaker 2: just see if they can work. You know, they're not
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Speaker 2: even they don't even have a chance to win. So
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Speaker 2: I do think there would be something like, hey, we'll
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Speaker 2: trade you like a six round pick for just the
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Speaker 2: opportunity to work with this guy. And I definitely think
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Speaker 2: that's on the table. We have so many moving parts.
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Speaker 2: I think the negative momentum around JJ something that's hard
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Speaker 2: to shake. You know, Sam couldn't shake it, and it's
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Speaker 2: why he was out of New York, right, And Baker
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Speaker 2: couldn't shake it. It's why he was out of Cleveland. So
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Speaker 2: sometimes that negative tsunami of it's not even a narrative,
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Speaker 2: it's just what everyone's seeing, right, can't play and you
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Speaker 2: sometimes need a new opportunity. Sam took it, and I
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Speaker 2: think JJ needs that because it's not gonna work in Minnesota.
7:24
Speaker 2: They're bringing Kyler Murray to replace you, Like, let's let's
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Speaker 2: just be real, it's over and listen. If he does
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Speaker 2: make it work, it would be a crowning achievement for
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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell. It really would. And they just lost Naylor, obviously,
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Speaker 2: they still got Jefferson, they got Addison, they reworked the
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Speaker 2: running back Steel Jones. So we'll see. I mean last
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Speaker 2: year their offensive line that was banged up. It was bad.
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Speaker 2: They just they went from a team two years ago
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Speaker 2: that looked like a juggernaut to just way off. So
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Speaker 2: you got a lot of question marks coming into season,
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Speaker 2: and now it's like Kyler save us, Kyler save us.
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Speaker 2: That's not really what it felt like with Sam Donald, right,
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Speaker 2: You know that there was part of resurrecting your career
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Speaker 2: can also be how you enter, right, Like I remember
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Speaker 2: when Alex Smith resurrected his career with Jim Harbaugh. The
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Speaker 2: expectations were really low when Sam Donald became the starter
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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. After you know, he was
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Speaker 2: gonna be the start of no matter what. But JJ
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Speaker 2: hurt his knee in training camp. There weren't high expectations, right,
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Speaker 2: Not that there are high expectations for Kyler, but he's
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Speaker 2: entering a team with high expectations, like we should make
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. If we don't, we don't view ourselves like
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Speaker 2: some crappy franchise. So I just think this thing's going
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Speaker 2: to be weird. And to me, the big winners today
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Speaker 2: or the other three teams in the division, because I
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Speaker 2: think this show's Minnesota's they're just out of whack. And
8:56
Speaker 2: to me, if it does go bad, they're definitely in
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Speaker 2: the quarterback mix. You know, in twenty twenty seven, which
9:01
Speaker 2: by all accounts, I struggled to do this like it's
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Speaker 2: gonna be a great quarterback draft. Say that all the time.
9:05
Speaker 2: Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. You never know. You know,
9:08
Speaker 2: Garrett Nessmeyer was supposed to be the number one overall pick,
9:11
Speaker 2: then it gets injured. Now he's gonna go in like
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Speaker 2: the third round. So things change dramatically fast at the
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Speaker 2: quarterback position from an evaluation standpoint in college. And and yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think JJ McCarthy is a great example of a
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Speaker 2: guy that played on a team that was an NFL team.
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Speaker 2: Basically every starter around him offensive defensive line, tight ends,
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Speaker 2: running backs, linebackers, dbat they're all pros. His coach, a
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Speaker 2: high end pro coach like Jim Harbought, is one of
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Speaker 2: the best coaches in the NFL. His defensive coordinators were
9:47
Speaker 2: Jesse Mintor and Mike McDonald. Maybe Mike was when he
9:51
Speaker 2: was a starting, but definitely Mentor those couple of years.
9:54
Speaker 2: Last I checked. Jesse Mencher is a head coach in
9:56
Speaker 2: the NFL, like it doesn't get it. That's like Saban
9:58
Speaker 2: like using an NFL player, your head coach is an
10:03
Speaker 2: NFL coach, a guy that's been to a Super Bowl
10:05
Speaker 2: and we'll probably get to another one. Oh and his
10:07
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator is gonna be a head coach immediately once
10:12
Speaker 2: they come back to the NFL. Like that, it doesn't
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Speaker 2: get much better in that. So I think when we
10:17
Speaker 2: look back, it's like JJ led a pretty easy life
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Speaker 2: that this wasn't you know, an average team, him running
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Speaker 2: around playing for as an underdogging games like they were.
10:27
Speaker 2: I mean for two years they were easily one of
10:29
Speaker 2: the best teams in the country. Obviously they won the
10:31
Speaker 2: National Championship, but they probably should have won it the
10:33
Speaker 2: year before or at least been to the National Championship
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Speaker 2: when they lost to TCU. So yeah, I just this
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Speaker 2: is the draft you just never know. I say this
10:43
Speaker 2: all the time, we always do this. There is no
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Speaker 2: such thing as a high floor player. They do not exist.
10:50
Speaker 2: There are high ceiling guys because of physical attributes and stuff,
10:54
Speaker 2: but there is no such thing as a floor because
10:57
Speaker 2: any player cannot work out for whatever reason. And JJ
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Speaker 2: worked out I think for or didn't work out so
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Speaker 2: far early in his career, and I would bet against
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Speaker 2: it working out moving forward because it's not really the
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Speaker 2: way the league works. It's just it's hard, man, it's
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Speaker 2: really really difficult. And you saw a guy last year
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Speaker 2: that was completely overwhelmed and was an NFL caliber, not
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Speaker 2: a guy that you drafts really high and you know,
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Speaker 2: make your starting quarterback for your franchise. And I think
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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell proved the day that like, just this ain't
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Speaker 2: gonna work. Let's let's try. Kyler Murray shows you where
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Speaker 2: they're at. Before we dive into the mailback, I do
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Speaker 2: want to hit on one fugazi, and this involves an
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Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. Now I'm not gonna speculate on what went down,
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Speaker 2: but Dak Prescott was scheduled to get married in the middle,
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Speaker 2: I think early April, and with his fiance, they had
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Speaker 2: a couple of kids. By all accounts, they were happy.
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Speaker 2: Turns out they're not, and the wedding is off. Now
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Speaker 2: they're a room flying, We got prenups, infidelities, who knows,
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Speaker 2: not my business. Don't even care because the biggest fugazi
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Speaker 2: is I got married last year. Actually it was just
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Speaker 2: my anniversary. And we got married in Nashville, and the
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Speaker 2: majority of those people that were coming to my wedding
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Speaker 2: were from California. So when I say, hey, can you
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Speaker 2: do you want to come? And we didn't have a
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Speaker 2: big wedding, it was like sixty people. Kept it small.
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Speaker 2: But we were asking a lot, right to get a
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Speaker 2: plane flight, you, your wife, you, you're whoever. I mean
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Speaker 2: these most couples, but mothers, cousins, you name it, to
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Speaker 2: fly out, get a hotel room from multiple nights. And
12:45
Speaker 2: this isn't a wedding where you can just hop in
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Speaker 2: your car and drive thirty minutes to go do so
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Speaker 2: whenever you have a destination wedding. And I'm sure many
12:52
Speaker 2: people listening or watching this have been to one in
12:55
Speaker 2: Mexico have been to one wherever. Right, it is somewhat
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Speaker 2: of a chore and not everyone just has unlimited resources
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Speaker 2: of like, oh, no problem, I'll get a hotel room,
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Speaker 2: I'll buy a flight. Like it's asking a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: And Dak Prescott, who is gonna retire with made like
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Speaker 2: seven hundred million dollars. When it's all said and done,
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Speaker 2: it's like, let's get married at Lake Cuomo. In Italy,
13:18
Speaker 2: which sounds incredible. I mean, I bet that wedding would
13:21
Speaker 2: have been bad ass. But the email they sent after
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Speaker 2: the wedding got called off for whatever reason was basically
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Speaker 2: like apologizing and then ended with sorry for the inconvenience.
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Speaker 2: Here's what I know. If you are gonna have a
13:38
Speaker 2: destination wedding, you almost once you get to a certain point.
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Speaker 2: I'd argue within a couple months, especially something like Italy,
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Speaker 2: Like not everyone attending this wedding is probably Cede Lamb
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Speaker 2: or Jerry Jones, probably just some normal people who are
13:53
Speaker 2: family friends. Would imagine probably a little expensive to hop
13:57
Speaker 2: on a bird if you live in Texas, if you
13:59
Speaker 2: live in Florida, if you live in Arizona and fly
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Speaker 2: to Italy and also stay somewhere to just say sorry
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Speaker 2: for your inconvenience. Sorry, whatever I did to fuck this.
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Speaker 1: Up is now screwing you financially, Like I'm sorry if
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Speaker 1: you're going to get married in a different country, calling
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Speaker 1: it off a month before it shows you and listen,
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Speaker 1: clearly this was bad to get it called off. But
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Speaker 1: also when you're that rich, it's probably hard to fatho.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, sorry for your inconvenience, Sorry for your inconvenience.
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Speaker 1: Is like going to McDonald's and ordering four cheeseburgers and
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Speaker 1: only getting three, and then having to go back once
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Speaker 1: you get home to grab that other cheeseburger, and then
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Speaker 1: the person at the front goes, hey, sorry for your inconvenience.
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Speaker 1: Here's an extra cheeseburger that'll make it five and a
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Speaker 1: Sunday as well, Like that's an inconvenience right right when
14:55
Speaker 1: you get door dash and they forget the sauce, Like
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Speaker 1: that's an in convenience. Is not canceling an international wedding
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Speaker 1: a month before for the majority of people attending.
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Speaker 2: Be like ep, you guys figure it out. I mean,
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Speaker 2: so whatever happened and rumors are flying that had massive
15:16
Speaker 2: ramifications I'm sure on a lot of people because my
15:19
Speaker 2: guess is it wasn't a ten person wedding. So this
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Speaker 2: is something that's probably hard at this point in time
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Speaker 2: in Dak's life, who I'm a big fan of. He's
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Speaker 2: become I'm very impressed with the play, but he's always
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Speaker 2: been impressive off the field. Never judge, wanna ever speculate
15:36
Speaker 2: on how people are, because you never know. I've known
15:39
Speaker 2: ugly people who are finaglars. And I've known great looking
15:42
Speaker 2: people that wouldn't cheat on their wife for a billion dollars,
15:46
Speaker 2: So you just it's hard to judge anyone. I just
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Speaker 2: know that you can never ever call off a wedding
15:53
Speaker 2: that is in Italy when everyone coming to that wedding
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Speaker 2: is from the States a month before, and end the
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Speaker 2: email with canceling it with sorry for your inconvenience. That one,
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Speaker 2: Jones got hurt, and they imploded, and they missed the playoffs.
19:57
Speaker 2: And now they don't have first round picks, they don't
20:00
Speaker 2: have a quarterback, and so they have to sign Daniel Jones, which,
20:05
Speaker 2: like I said, whatever Daniel Jones's agent is making, he's underpaid.
20:10
Speaker 2: No one has done less in NFL history and made more.
20:14
Speaker 2: And to give a guy, even like you said, you
20:17
Speaker 2: know it's not technically a one hundred million dollar deal,
20:19
Speaker 2: but to give a guy to have to transition tag
20:24
Speaker 2: transition tech, who else was giving Daniel Jones thirty seven
20:27
Speaker 2: million dollars. If you offer Daniel Jones right now off
20:30
Speaker 2: of Achilles one year, twenty million dollars, where is his market?
20:35
Speaker 2: Who else is paying the guy? I'm sorry, I don't
20:38
Speaker 2: see that happening, especially and I get he's different age,
20:42
Speaker 2: but Cousins got that hundred million dollar contract off the
20:44
Speaker 2: Achilles and it was a disaster. I don't know who
20:47
Speaker 2: you're betting against, but the problem is he's so leveraged
20:51
Speaker 2: with the sauce trade he felt obligated to do the
20:56
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones contract and this has been back to back
20:58
Speaker 2: teams where Daniel Jones had him by the balls. Like
21:02
Speaker 2: I'd argue, you would have been better off franchise tagging
21:05
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce and just being like Daniel will negotiate whoever
21:10
Speaker 2: you're gonna negotiate against. But we're not that worried, right,
21:13
Speaker 2: this is you're a businessman, we're a businessman. So I
21:16
Speaker 2: just think it got away from and they got there
21:19
Speaker 2: back against the corner. Right. The number one thing you
21:21
Speaker 2: learn in life, I don't care if it's a hundred
21:24
Speaker 2: dollars deal or a hundred million dollar deal. You never
21:26
Speaker 2: want to do any sort of business out of desperation,
21:29
Speaker 2: Because when you do business deals out of desperation, I
21:33
Speaker 2: just think you tend to regret them. Whether that's buying
21:36
Speaker 2: a home, whether that's you know, buying a player, whether
21:40
Speaker 2: that's anytime that you know, whatever industry you're in, when
21:45
Speaker 2: you could make solid decisions and be willing to walk away,
21:48
Speaker 2: that's when you make your best decisions. And they were
21:50
Speaker 2: not only not willing to walk away, they like all
21:53
Speaker 2: their chips were in the middle of the table on
21:54
Speaker 2: this guy. And it started with the sauce trade that
21:57
Speaker 2: that threw everything off. What a disaster. I mean, I
22:02
Speaker 2: was texting someone today. The Titans have a long way
22:07
Speaker 2: to go, But what if with Brian Dayball and Sala
22:11
Speaker 2: they get Jeremiah Love. They're just competitive. Next year, the
22:15
Speaker 2: Texas are clearly going to be good. I would imagine
22:18
Speaker 2: the Jags are good again. I mean, there's a chance
22:21
Speaker 2: this team has to Daniel Jones coming off an Achilles.
22:24
Speaker 2: It's not out of the realm possibility. The culture lasts
22:26
Speaker 2: in this division. I don't know if I bet on that,
22:30
Speaker 2: but they're definitely a clear third question for the bag
22:36
Speaker 2: Are there any other extremely loyal Max Crosby types in
22:39
Speaker 2: the league. And do you think we're starting to move
22:44
Speaker 2: starting to move away from these divas demanding more money
22:47
Speaker 2: instead of taking more team friendly contracts. It's worth noting
22:51
Speaker 2: the three highest paid quarterbacks in the league, Jackson, Burrow,
22:54
Speaker 2: Prescott all missed the playoffs. Meanwhile Brady was taking team
22:58
Speaker 2: friendly discounts. I understand knowing you're worth as a player,
23:02
Speaker 2: but you know what boosh you're worth super Bowl rings? Uh.
23:09
Speaker 2: I do think there's just a balance, you know, when
23:12
Speaker 2: you want to milk the team, like Dak Prescott, he
23:16
Speaker 2: wants to milk every time the team for every dollar possible. Well,
23:20
Speaker 2: he's not good enough to make up that difference in
23:23
Speaker 2: the setup of the league. And it's like, Dak, the
23:25
Speaker 2: difference of you making sixty million dollars a year and
23:29
Speaker 2: let's say fifty million dollars a year changes your life
23:32
Speaker 2: zero And with what you make off the field, because
23:35
Speaker 2: you're the starting quarterback of the Cowboys easily not only
23:39
Speaker 2: makes up for it, but you're one of the more
23:41
Speaker 2: marketable guys in the league because you're that position. So
23:44
Speaker 2: like there are decisions that are made that have like
23:48
Speaker 2: we got to get every dollar possible, and then you
23:50
Speaker 2: bitch a million team's not good enough. And I understand
23:52
Speaker 2: if it's the difference, like this is my first big contract,
23:55
Speaker 2: totally get it. But there are some guys it's like man,
24:00
Speaker 2: and I think it's hard because they go, that's not
24:02
Speaker 2: my problem. I don't have any equity in this deal.
24:03
Speaker 2: I'm just an employee, So I mean, I see both
24:05
Speaker 2: sides from just a business standpoint. But once you get
24:09
Speaker 2: to the amount of money, once you start talking fifty
24:12
Speaker 2: sixty seventy million dollars, if someone goes, hey, man, I
24:17
Speaker 2: took a little bit less to try to facilitate keeping
24:19
Speaker 2: these three guys like I kind of understand it, especially
24:22
Speaker 2: if you're in a big, big market or a big
24:24
Speaker 2: time team, you parlay that into so much off the field,
24:29
Speaker 2: like you know, marketable you are as the starting quarterback.
24:32
Speaker 2: Like when I heard brock Perty didn't make anything in
24:34
Speaker 2: the first three years, like that actually wasn't true. After
24:37
Speaker 2: a while, he was making a ton off the field.
24:39
Speaker 2: You know why, because he's the starting quarterback for the
24:42
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. So Toyota and these brands paying him
24:45
Speaker 2: Ariot the boot brand, do you think they would have
24:47
Speaker 2: paid him if he was a starting quarterback for the
24:49
Speaker 2: years on the Cardinals or the you know, some of
24:52
Speaker 2: these other brands, the New York Jets. No fucking chance
24:56
Speaker 2: on God's Green Earth. So I never understand that, but
25:00
Speaker 2: it kind of is what it is. You don't get
25:03
Speaker 2: any credit for that as a team, You just don't.
25:06
Speaker 2: Brady's an outlier. I mean, in fairness, Peyton Manning. There
25:09
Speaker 2: were always stories when I was in the league that
25:11
Speaker 2: Pollion and Tom comm Didn't used to scream at him,
25:15
Speaker 2: like Pollion be like Tom, if we pay him this,
25:18
Speaker 2: we can't sign other guys. And Tom's response is we
25:22
Speaker 2: don't give a shit. We want every penny. Now. Peyton
25:25
Speaker 2: Manning's good enough to overcome losing some guys. Most of
25:28
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks are not. So I feel zero sympathy for
25:33
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Like you signed a contract with the Cincinnati Bengals.
25:37
Speaker 2: Who do you think you were getting in business with?
25:39
Speaker 2: Stafford's given some discounts last year and again this year,
25:43
Speaker 2: but he also benefits from it makes a ton off
25:45
Speaker 2: the field with sleep number gets to play for McVeigh,
25:48
Speaker 2: gets to win. He's already super rich, right, And I'm
25:53
Speaker 2: with you what you make as a multiple time super
25:56
Speaker 2: Bowl champion, you become marketable forever. So yeah, you don't
26:02
Speaker 2: make as much in the playoffs, but if you win
26:04
Speaker 2: a super Bowl or win a couple of Super Bowls.
26:06
Speaker 2: Patrick mahomes earning power doesn't end once he retires. Is
26:13
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott that marketable at forty nine years old and single?
26:18
Speaker 2: Not sure? Probably won't be single? Then I just saw
26:24
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk, So I guess my point is, I think
26:26
Speaker 2: a lot of guys are loyal, but the business and
26:28
Speaker 2: the numbers are so big. People get so emotional. There's
26:32
Speaker 2: a lot of variables. You got agents involved that you know,
26:35
Speaker 2: are putting ideas in your in your ear, you know.
26:38
Speaker 2: I think the video that went viral of the Bill
26:41
Speaker 2: Center saying like who took a team friendly discount? Said,
26:47
Speaker 2: I'm making thirteen million dollars a year. Could I have
26:49
Speaker 2: made sixteen? Sure? But I live pretty high on the
26:52
Speaker 2: hog for thirteen million dollars a year. I think the
26:54
Speaker 2: average person doesn't care that much, and it's not going
26:58
Speaker 2: to feel sympathy either way. This is an argument the
27:00
Speaker 2: media gets in a lot. I just think don't think
27:03
Speaker 2: most people care, especially the numbers in which are being
27:08
Speaker 2: thrown around for these players, right, Like let's say Tyler Linderbaum,
27:14
Speaker 2: who's making twenty seven million dollars a year, making ten
27:17
Speaker 2: million dollars more than the next high speed center. Once
27:21
Speaker 2: the Crosby deal went through, Let's say they couldn't keep
27:24
Speaker 2: them both, and Linderbaum said, hey, I'll give back. I
27:27
Speaker 2: got to give back three or four million dollars a
27:29
Speaker 2: year to keep to make Max on the team as
27:31
Speaker 2: well on the Raiders. Oh, it's a good gesture. But
27:35
Speaker 2: like gave back a couple million dollars after taxes, Like,
27:38
Speaker 2: what are we really talking again? That's it's not my money,
27:41
Speaker 2: and I always respect it's It's why I'm always understanding
27:47
Speaker 2: of the tax conversation with these large amounts of money.
27:50
Speaker 2: But I also think, like the difference of a two
27:54
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million dollar contract and a two hundred
27:57
Speaker 2: million dollar contract, when the dust settles, it doesn't change
28:00
Speaker 2: your life. Literally, one iota has zero impact. And if
28:03
Speaker 2: you're on certain teams the amount of money, like Dak
28:07
Speaker 2: Prescott makes so much more money off the field without
28:10
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl than Sam Darnold does on Seattle with
28:13
Speaker 2: the super Bowl because of the Brandy's on But I
28:17
Speaker 2: don't think players care, clearly, so I think the loyalty.
28:23
Speaker 2: I think the loyalty has changed. But nothing is bigger
28:25
Speaker 2: pet peeve of mine than it's like, this is a business. Yeah, no, shit,
28:29
Speaker 2: we didn't think this was a charity, you know, like
28:31
Speaker 2: when players say that, like, yeah, we know. We didn't
28:35
Speaker 2: think this was high school football. Guys. I just saw
28:38
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk was released and the Niners have to pay
28:41
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars in dead cap. Can you explain the
28:44
Speaker 2: hell the Niners have to pay a player that quit
28:45
Speaker 2: on the team because Kyle and John told him to
28:48
Speaker 2: not come back to practice. I thought Ayuk was clear
28:51
Speaker 2: to play but refused, which voided the contract. Sorry for rambling.
28:55
Speaker 2: I don't know all the details of the contract, but
28:59
Speaker 2: when you sign a com tract and give a signing bonus,
29:02
Speaker 2: which Brandon i Uk contract, God, my I need a
29:10
Speaker 2: new phone. So Brandon Ayuk's contract, he got a four year,
29:15
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty million dollar deal with a twenty
29:20
Speaker 2: three million dollar bonus. So he was paid twenty three
29:23
Speaker 2: million dollars at the start of that contract, and then
29:27
Speaker 2: that gets kind of amortized over the course of the deal.
29:32
Speaker 2: Most of the big cap hits on his deal. Were
29:35
Speaker 2: these fake years in twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine
29:40
Speaker 2: that they were never going to pay him on that contract? Right,
29:43
Speaker 2: they would have redone it after twenty five, twenty six,
29:45
Speaker 2: twenty seven, like once you got a twenty eight and
29:47
Speaker 2: twenty nine. But just because he quits doesn't mean that
29:53
Speaker 2: you still don't see the implications of the bonus money
29:56
Speaker 2: you gave him. So that cap number gets spread and
30:00
Speaker 2: the guaranteed numbers throughout the life of the contract. It's
30:03
Speaker 2: why Derek Carr is technically still under contract for the Saints.
30:07
Speaker 2: They gave him what like three years one hundred million.
30:09
Speaker 2: I forget his exact contract, but they gave him like
30:11
Speaker 2: seventy million dollars guaranteed. That number. Even if you retire
30:16
Speaker 2: like the number that you advertized, it still impacts your books. Remember,
30:20
Speaker 2: like Des Bryant and Tony Romo were not on the Cowboys.
30:24
Speaker 2: Tony was retired calling games, and they were still paying
30:26
Speaker 2: for it. So it's because of that, and he definitely
30:34
Speaker 2: like gave back some of the guaranteed money. But I
30:37
Speaker 2: think the way it impacts your cap with the signing
30:40
Speaker 2: still hurts you immediately. I mean look, there's no way
30:42
Speaker 2: around it. It's one of the worst contracts in the
30:46
Speaker 2: history league when you factor in like some of these quarterbacks,
30:51
Speaker 2: you know, Tuah Kyler felt like the team liked him.
30:53
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers were ready to get rid of them,
30:55
Speaker 2: and they wanted to get rid of them, but they
30:57
Speaker 2: kept getting cold feet to cost and style and couldn't
31:01
Speaker 2: pull the trigger and then sign them to this contract
31:03
Speaker 2: that they immediately regretted and then obviously got injured and
31:06
Speaker 2: then you just quit on the team and kind of
31:07
Speaker 2: lost his marbles. So it just this disaster all the
31:09
Speaker 2: way around, no way around it, complete disaster. I don't
31:13
Speaker 2: quite understand all the mechanisms of like the specific numbers.
31:17
Speaker 2: I just know when you give a guy a signing
31:20
Speaker 2: bonus of ten million or fifty million of whatever at
31:22
Speaker 2: the life of the contract, that hit your books way
31:25
Speaker 2: later because you always push it down. But you gotta
31:28
Speaker 2: pay for it, right. It'd be the equivalent of like, hey,
31:32
Speaker 2: you can go buy something we're twenty grand and put
31:34
Speaker 2: it on a credit card and you only have to
31:36
Speaker 2: pay five dollars for the next couple of years, but
31:43
Speaker 2: in two years you're gonna owe that entire amount of money,
31:46
Speaker 2: so it's either on you to push it back down
31:49
Speaker 2: or pay it. And that's where I think these contracts
31:52
Speaker 2: sometimes when you get in a position where a guy
31:54
Speaker 2: gets injured, a situation like Ayuk where you want to
31:58
Speaker 2: get out and cut. It's why the Eagle there are
32:03
Speaker 2: major cap ramifications for them to trade aj Brown. They
32:06
Speaker 2: just gave him a contract. So when you just give
32:08
Speaker 2: a guy a contract and you try to get out
32:11
Speaker 2: the thing with Max Crosby, they didn'tive him any bonus money,
32:14
Speaker 2: they didn't give him a signing bonus. They just gave
32:16
Speaker 2: him ninety million dollars and it was, you know, guaranteed,
32:20
Speaker 2: but it was like an NBA or a Major League
32:22
Speaker 2: Baseball contract. A lot of these guys like, yeah, I'll
32:26
Speaker 2: sign a contract, but I want I want a direct
32:29
Speaker 2: deposit now, Homie at like twenty seven million dollars, which
32:34
Speaker 2: has to be incredible. I just got my thirty million
32:38
Speaker 2: direct deposits. And that's where the tax States like hits
32:41
Speaker 2: a lot harder when you're in Dallas. I mean, you
32:43
Speaker 2: talk about dak to ching to ching to Cheing, big
32:48
Speaker 2: fan of the show. A couple of things, is it
32:52
Speaker 2: me or is the Daniel Jones contract insane, historically below
32:56
Speaker 2: average and coming off injuries. Second, why don't teams the
33:00
Speaker 2: number one pick just take the best quarterback and then
33:02
Speaker 2: trade them to the highest bidder after the draft rather
33:07
Speaker 2: than draft eight trades?
33:09
Speaker 1: Uh?
33:10
Speaker 2: Well, the second part because you if you're gonna trade
33:14
Speaker 2: the number one pick for you know, a quarterback and
33:17
Speaker 2: get several picks, like a first, a second, next year's one,
33:20
Speaker 2: you want to use those picks for yourself, like you
33:24
Speaker 2: want to make the pick. Right. So if I'm trading
33:27
Speaker 2: pick one, Let's say the Raiders want to trade for
33:29
Speaker 2: Dana Mendozo and they traded to a team for like
33:33
Speaker 2: the third pick, the thirty third pick and next year's
33:37
Speaker 2: one and next year three. Well, I want to pick
33:40
Speaker 2: the guy at three, and I want to pick the
33:41
Speaker 2: guy at thirty three. So that's the reason that doesn't happen.
33:45
Speaker 2: The Daniel Jones, I'm at a loss now, but I
33:49
Speaker 2: also get it. But it's just like he just he
33:52
Speaker 2: just fleeces people, man, he really does. He finds himself
33:55
Speaker 2: in positions and he takes advantage of it. Is it
33:58
Speaker 2: possible Crosby may have dodged a bullet? I feel like
34:02
Speaker 2: when anyone in the media, here's the Ravens. They immediately
34:05
Speaker 2: foam at the mouth and think twenty thirteen or prime Lamar.
34:10
Speaker 2: In reality, the Ravens have picked fourteen for a reason,
34:13
Speaker 2: and it feels like they're in a major rebuild. They
34:16
Speaker 2: have a young, unproven combo at head coach, offensive coordinator,
34:19
Speaker 2: lost their center, tight end, defensive players, Metabuki had a
34:24
Speaker 2: neck injury. Lamar looked like he lost his step last
34:27
Speaker 2: season in his contract situation is uncertain with only two
34:29
Speaker 2: years left. Henry's thirty two years old. It feels like
34:31
Speaker 2: a team with a lot of question marks. I do
34:33
Speaker 2: think that's fair. You know, likely had huge catches for Lamar,
34:38
Speaker 2: huge catches starting center. Whether we agree or disagree with
34:42
Speaker 2: the contract, there is no disputing like a full time
34:45
Speaker 2: starter on one of the best offenses, been a Pro
34:48
Speaker 2: Bowl level guy. Like that's a pretty big loss. And
34:51
Speaker 2: I think DaCosta said we've had a pretty good track
34:53
Speaker 2: record find at centers, Like, I hear you, buddy, But
34:57
Speaker 2: I think if you just ask yourself this, would you
35:01
Speaker 2: rather be on the Ravens or the Raiders. That's where
35:05
Speaker 2: I think the Lamar thing, or I mean the Max thing,
35:08
Speaker 2: Like I think any player would rather be on the
35:10
Speaker 2: Ravens next year. Now, big picture, like, maybe this isn't
35:13
Speaker 2: the Ravens that we used to know. I mean, they
35:16
Speaker 2: went eight to nine, they easily with a missfield could
35:18
Speaker 2: have been nine to eight, and who knows, maybe they
35:21
Speaker 2: win a playoff game. But I'm with you, there are
35:22
Speaker 2: some question marks. Lamar's health, their best defensive lineman neck injury,
35:28
Speaker 2: Hendrickson's coming off an injury, fourteenth pick, like, not every
35:32
Speaker 2: rookie can just hit the ground running, So the Ravens
35:35
Speaker 2: do have a lot of legitimate question marks. That division's
35:39
Speaker 2: wide open. I mean the Bengals defensively, who knows, Steelers
35:45
Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback? Browns with the Browns love the
35:49
Speaker 2: Pod just had jaw surgery, so had lots of ups
35:53
Speaker 2: and downs. Perfect way for me to start my day
35:56
Speaker 2: when you drop an episode. Congrats on Jack. My wife
36:00
Speaker 2: and I just started to go down the road of
36:01
Speaker 2: starting a family. Congratulations, buckle up. Question or I guess
36:07
Speaker 2: rumor I've heard being circulated around friends I have who
36:12
Speaker 2: I work around friends I have who work in the league.
36:17
Speaker 2: Rumor is that Ayuk didn't just not take his rehab
36:20
Speaker 2: for his ACL mcl m moniscus tear seriously, but he
36:23
Speaker 2: didn't really rehab at all. That's a rumor going around
36:26
Speaker 2: the internet which you might have seen as well, which
36:29
Speaker 2: would cause the need and never be the same and
36:31
Speaker 2: he potentially never play again. I know you have deep
36:34
Speaker 2: ties in the Niners. You know what's funny is like
36:37
Speaker 2: I have deep ties because I've been watching them my
36:38
Speaker 2: whole life. But I is not like Kyle calls me.
36:44
Speaker 2: I text John, he ain't texting me back. I like Parrague,
36:47
Speaker 2: but I am much more tied in. I follow their
36:51
Speaker 2: team closely, but I my inside information with the top boys.
36:56
Speaker 2: They ain't feeding it to me. Hell, they get mad
36:58
Speaker 2: at me and have people call me about things I say,
37:01
Speaker 2: so shit. It's like, I'm your supporter, guys, but I
37:05
Speaker 2: have no inside information on this beside what has been reported.
37:10
Speaker 2: Clearly just a sad disaster. Now, I said, the whole time,
37:14
Speaker 2: giving a guy seventy five million dollars, it was catching
37:16
Speaker 2: seventy five balls in an offense that's a run first
37:19
Speaker 2: throw to the tight end. I never made sense. I
37:23
Speaker 2: never understood it. I never understood letting Brandon Ayuk bend
37:27
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers over. I didn't get it. I
37:30
Speaker 2: still don't get it. And his agent is the same
37:34
Speaker 2: as John Lynch's agent. I just I'll never understand that one.
37:38
Speaker 2: I get the debo one. It didn't work out, but
37:41
Speaker 2: I totally understand. I've gotten all the deals Trent Williams, Bosa,
37:46
Speaker 2: Fred Warner, extending Kittle, even party. I never understood the
37:50
Speaker 2: Ayuk one. I'm on record saying like this is crazy.
37:53
Speaker 2: You're gonna pay them? Like Amen, Ross Saint Brown, what
37:55
Speaker 2: the fuck are we doing? And the answer was from
38:00
Speaker 2: Kyle wish we could have that one back. The biggest
38:06
Speaker 2: mistake they made is not trading him before the draft.
38:10
Speaker 2: They should have traded him before the draft. Instead, they
38:13
Speaker 2: let it go to training camp, and then when they
38:15
Speaker 2: would get trades, he wouldn't sign. If they traded him
38:18
Speaker 2: before the draft, he would have gone. It would have
38:21
Speaker 2: been fine. You could have got like a second and
38:22
Speaker 2: a third and just pivoted. But they just they were
38:27
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl mode and then they ended up
38:29
Speaker 2: going six to eleven. He got injured in just a nightmare.
38:32
Speaker 2: I trust John Schnyder to make the right choices on
38:34
Speaker 2: drafting and free agents, but I'm a bit worried after
38:37
Speaker 2: letting a good amount of key players leave. I knew
38:40
Speaker 2: that this would happen, but I thought we would at
38:42
Speaker 2: least keep Kobe Bryant after how well he has done
38:45
Speaker 2: the last few years. I know we need a running
38:48
Speaker 2: back into safety. Now that both Kenneth Walker and Kobe
38:51
Speaker 2: Bryant are gone, do you think they are just waiting
38:54
Speaker 2: for the draft to fill these holes. Kobe Bryant's a
38:59
Speaker 2: good player, but he got a lot of money. And
39:01
Speaker 2: if you're Seattle, you go. We got guys that we
39:05
Speaker 2: have to invest in. And to give a guy thirteen
39:07
Speaker 2: fourteen million dollars a year, it's a lot. And the
39:11
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker thing in November, no one would have thought
39:15
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker was going to get a big contract. He
39:18
Speaker 2: had one of the hottest stretches at the end of
39:20
Speaker 2: the year. There was no way the Seattle was going
39:25
Speaker 2: to match that contract. I'm still a little surprised the
39:29
Speaker 2: Chiefs gave him as much as they did, but they've
39:31
Speaker 2: clearly liked him since college, and I do wonder if
39:34
Speaker 2: they're going to go to a run heavy offense. But
39:38
Speaker 2: to me, if you had told me that they had
39:40
Speaker 2: let a star defensive lineman, a star wide receiver, something
39:45
Speaker 2: like that offensive lineman. They let a running back in
39:49
Speaker 2: a safety, Go, well, this draft's loaded with safeties and
39:52
Speaker 2: you can find running backs. I don't think it's that crazy.
39:56
Speaker 2: I really don't. I have a question regarding team success
40:00
Speaker 2: in the NFL. For my investment theory class, I have
40:04
Speaker 2: to build a ten plus factor model to accurately predict
40:09
Speaker 2: how much success a team has based on preseason odds.
40:13
Speaker 2: My question is what non obvious factors leads teams to
40:18
Speaker 2: continue to win games year after year. It's a good question.
40:24
Speaker 2: I would say the obvious ones, clearly if you have
40:26
Speaker 2: a bad year would be injuries, would be close game
40:31
Speaker 2: or turnover swings. Right. A couple of years ago, the
40:34
Speaker 2: Chiefs were excellent close games. Last year they were not.
40:37
Speaker 2: Turnover swings are big one strength of schedule. The forty
40:40
Speaker 2: nine ers benefited, the Patriots benefited this year from that.
40:43
Speaker 2: I would say non obvious ones would be guys having
40:48
Speaker 2: poor seasons. Right, Like, if you think a team is
40:51
Speaker 2: gonna win ten to eleven games and are one of
40:54
Speaker 2: the favorites to win their division or their conference, and
40:57
Speaker 2: then they have a couple players who have down years.
41:01
Speaker 2: And the other thing is usually good teams have higher
41:05
Speaker 2: paid players. If you have higher paid veterans who start
41:10
Speaker 2: turning the wrong way, that can be a problem. Right
41:13
Speaker 2: if you look at the ravens Lamar had a bad
41:16
Speaker 2: year because he was banged up, missing games like it
41:19
Speaker 2: was just it was just off and defensively they weren't
41:22
Speaker 2: that good. You can never factor in like Joe Burrow
41:26
Speaker 2: missed half the season, right or missed. I forget exactly
41:29
Speaker 2: how many games Pretty did too. Pretty misses seven eight games.
41:33
Speaker 2: If you would have told me at the beginning of
41:34
Speaker 2: the year, Pretty missed seven eight games. With forty nine
41:36
Speaker 2: ers can win like seven games. But I couldn't have
41:38
Speaker 2: factored in Mac Jones, the backup quarterback. And the other
41:42
Speaker 2: thing is you can it's hard to know, Like when
41:45
Speaker 2: you get new coordinators or first time coaches. You never know,
41:50
Speaker 2: like we all like Liam Cohen with Baker Mayfield, I
41:53
Speaker 2: never thought the Jags would look as good as they
41:54
Speaker 2: looked in his Italian defensive coordinator. They were just kicking
41:58
Speaker 2: ass and taking names. So you just you don't know.
42:03
Speaker 2: You don't know how a guy's gonna transition. So I
42:06
Speaker 2: don't know if that answers your question. You know there
42:10
Speaker 2: are things in a locker room, maybe because every year
42:14
Speaker 2: you have a percentage of turnover. Some teams it's low
42:18
Speaker 2: twenty some teams is like thirty forty percent. I would
42:21
Speaker 2: imagine the Raiders this year turnover is gonna be extremely high.
42:23
Speaker 2: The Raven's turnover is gonna be really high. Chiefs turnover
42:26
Speaker 2: on defense gonna be high. You just have natural turnover
42:30
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Well, if you insert new players, whether
42:34
Speaker 2: it be rookies, whether it be second year guys who
42:37
Speaker 2: were drafted the previous year as backups, or whether you
42:40
Speaker 2: sign guys from other teams, there's a chemistry aspect that
42:45
Speaker 2: you never know how it's gonna work, which to me
42:48
Speaker 2: is usually on the coaching staff to figure that out
42:54
Speaker 2: and create that and then build from that. But at
42:56
Speaker 2: the end of the day, the players have to get
42:58
Speaker 2: along and have to like each other, and have to
43:01
Speaker 2: have some natural on the field chemistry which naturally works
43:05
Speaker 2: its way to off the field chemistry. I'm a believer
43:08
Speaker 2: in you don't have to be best friends with everybody,
43:09
Speaker 2: but typically when you like people, you work better with them.
43:16
Speaker 2: I would say, I mean, we all have done business
43:19
Speaker 2: with people we hate. It's much more enjoyable to do
43:22
Speaker 2: business with people you like. So I don't know if
43:26
Speaker 2: that answers your question. I don't think there's a right
43:30
Speaker 2: or wrong answer. I mean teams study this every year,
43:33
Speaker 2: Like did the Chiefs? Why did the Chiefs take a
43:36
Speaker 2: huge step back last year? Will Mahomes didn't have a
43:38
Speaker 2: great year. Kelsey had a big time down year. Their
43:45
Speaker 2: offensive line issues. Right Simmons miss some games, The right
43:49
Speaker 2: tackle was an issue. Receivers were hit or miss defense.
43:54
Speaker 2: Carl Loftis wasn't as good. He had just been paid.
43:57
Speaker 2: It's not like their coaches got dumb overnight. Right, It's
44:00
Speaker 2: not like Mahomes forgot how to play. It's just like
44:02
Speaker 2: shit happens. It's hard. I think it's very, very difficult.
44:05
Speaker 2: That's so it's hard to quantify on a yearly basis.
44:23
Speaker 2: As an Eagles fan, the loss of Stoutland the offensive
44:26
Speaker 2: line coach concerns me. Can you go into how important
44:29
Speaker 2: an elite position group coaches not only for the preparation
44:33
Speaker 2: and game day, but with the draft coming up talent evaluation?
44:36
Speaker 2: Do these guys have more input than scouts, coordinators, head
44:39
Speaker 2: coaches regarding their position group side question. As a new
44:43
Speaker 2: dad and golfer myself, thoughts on bringing the baby kid
44:46
Speaker 2: to the golf course and push on the golf course
44:52
Speaker 2: in a push cart stroller good in theory, but as
44:55
Speaker 2: someone who is conscious of others and hates noise in
44:58
Speaker 2: the backswing, not sure I can get on board. To me,
45:01
Speaker 2: they have to be at a certain age where you
45:02
Speaker 2: can just kind of put them in the cart. I
45:04
Speaker 2: think the stroller, I don't know if I would do that.
45:08
Speaker 2: Maybe to the range, but you'd have to, like you said,
45:10
Speaker 2: you have to have an area in the range. What
45:11
Speaker 2: do you do when it starts crying, You gotta grab it.
45:14
Speaker 2: I'm not a big bring the baby to the golf
45:17
Speaker 2: course until they hit somewhat of a certain age till
45:20
Speaker 2: maybe they can start playing. Great question, though, from what
45:25
Speaker 2: I've heard, like it was time. Stoutland is at an
45:29
Speaker 2: incredible career. He's been one of the best offensive line
45:32
Speaker 2: coaches in the league. He will be an offensive line coach,
45:34
Speaker 2: I'm sure if he wants to keep coaching again. But
45:38
Speaker 2: there gets to a point for certain coaches, position coaches,
45:42
Speaker 2: like he kind of got to get along with the
45:44
Speaker 2: other coaches. You're not the boss. Right, you are, I
45:49
Speaker 2: don't want to say a worker bee, but in the hierarchy,
45:52
Speaker 2: like you ate the head hauncho. So like this year,
45:56
Speaker 2: I think there was some button heads and it's like,
45:59
Speaker 2: you're paid three point five million dollars and the offensive
46:02
Speaker 2: line was playing like shit. So I I'm not sure
46:08
Speaker 2: people in Philly were, like I think everyone was. It
46:12
Speaker 2: was time, incredible run ton of credit for what they've
46:16
Speaker 2: accomplished for Kelsey and Malatta and Lane Johnson, all these guys.
46:21
Speaker 2: But I from what I had heard, it was time.
46:25
Speaker 2: And some of that is like, you start making three
46:27
Speaker 2: point five million dollars the offensive line coach, you don't
46:30
Speaker 2: listen to anybody, and it's like you're a position coach.
46:33
Speaker 2: You ask your players to listen to other people. So,
46:36
Speaker 2: and I'm Stoutlin's not alone on this. A lot of
46:38
Speaker 2: coaches get like this. We've talked about this before. Eagles
46:41
Speaker 2: get so big with some of these position coaches because
46:44
Speaker 2: they make so much money. When you make seventy five
46:48
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, you kind of got to listen to the boss.
46:50
Speaker 2: You start making millions of dollars, it's like, oh, are
46:53
Speaker 2: you the CEO? No, are you the number two. No,
46:57
Speaker 2: I'm like the three or four. But I make so
47:00
Speaker 2: much and I'm gonna guarantee contract I can do whatever
47:03
Speaker 2: I want. I think it became a problem, so time
47:10
Speaker 2: will tell the new offensive line coach and the new
47:12
Speaker 2: staff like that. That to me is a question mark.
47:14
Speaker 2: But I don't have an issue with the divorce from
47:17
Speaker 2: what I know with stout one. Sometimes it's just time
47:20
Speaker 2: if you don't get along, And this happens all sorts
47:24
Speaker 2: of coaching staffs. Some of these position coaches start pushing back.
47:28
Speaker 2: Happens with coordinators, with head coaches. It's not you can't
47:32
Speaker 2: function like you gotta get a divorce. You have to separate.
47:37
Speaker 2: So I think that played a role. You're a new dad,
47:42
Speaker 2: so I thought you're a good one to ask my
47:45
Speaker 2: fiance's brother and wife. So your future brother in law
47:51
Speaker 2: had a child this year. Was her first niece or nephew,
47:56
Speaker 2: so she was understandably very excited. I am the youngest
48:01
Speaker 2: of a big family, so already had a few lost
48:04
Speaker 2: its luster a bit, what's fun to begin with. But
48:07
Speaker 2: her niece totally dominates her family's life and partially mine.
48:12
Speaker 2: Most of our conversations are about her FaceTime at least
48:17
Speaker 2: once a day. And when we see here, we're the
48:21
Speaker 2: ones tasked with diapers, feedings, bass et cetera. It feels
48:26
Speaker 2: like I'm raising a child that's not ours. Am I
48:31
Speaker 2: an ass for thinking this? Absolutely not. It can be
48:37
Speaker 2: really annoying when parents, young parents, all they talk with
48:42
Speaker 2: their friends about is their kid, Like that's just the
48:45
Speaker 2: only level of conversation. It's like, we're adults. Can we
48:48
Speaker 2: have some other conversations too, Like can we just be
48:50
Speaker 2: adults as well? Like there has to be some sort
48:52
Speaker 2: of balance. But it's also understandable when you have a child,
48:55
Speaker 2: especially for her. I mean, my wife's like living with Jack.
49:00
Speaker 2: I mean they spend every waking moment. She took her
49:03
Speaker 2: to the real estate office today to like everyone wanted
49:06
Speaker 2: to meet her, so she just they went at like lunchtime,
49:11
Speaker 2: and every time she would hand Jack off to someone else,
49:14
Speaker 2: he would freak like he is so connected to her
49:17
Speaker 2: now eight weeks into life, right, So their connection is
49:22
Speaker 2: the connection between the woman and the child and the
49:25
Speaker 2: father and the child early on is just way different.
49:29
Speaker 2: If someone if I had a friend or brother or
49:32
Speaker 2: sister came over to my house and I tasked them
49:36
Speaker 2: with changing the diapers and feeding. If you told me
49:42
Speaker 2: my brother or brother in law shoved me, screamed at me,
49:46
Speaker 2: or refuse to ever come over again, I would not
49:49
Speaker 2: blame them. That is fucking ridiculous. Now it's one thing
49:52
Speaker 2: like hey, could you help me grab that bottle or whatever,
49:55
Speaker 2: totally understandable. But if you come over and you just
49:58
Speaker 2: act as a babysitter, it's like, I ain't your mom,
50:02
Speaker 2: We ain't you ain't paying us. That's ridiculous to me,
50:06
Speaker 2: especially you. It's if your wife or fiance wants to
50:09
Speaker 2: do it and doesn't mind. But if they say, hey,
50:13
Speaker 2: could you go change the diaper? Like that's a no,
50:17
Speaker 2: That's a no for me, Doug, Like that's that seems outrageous.
50:22
Speaker 2: And they are. They are pushing the envelope on this one.
50:25
Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I think that this is a
50:31
Speaker 2: a boundary cross for sure. Now here's the thing. If
50:36
Speaker 2: you don't establish some boundaries or ground rules, people will
50:42
Speaker 2: take advantage of you. Whether it be when it comes
50:46
Speaker 2: to babysitting and that type stuff, whether it comes to work,
50:50
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. And these it's it's
50:54
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier in professional settings when you're kind
50:57
Speaker 2: of less emotionally tied, you could be a little more aggressive, right,
51:02
Speaker 2: it's a little more cutthroat in the private sector. With family,
51:06
Speaker 2: it can be delicate because what are you gonna stand
51:08
Speaker 2: up and say, I'm never changing your baby's diaper ever again,
51:11
Speaker 2: don't ever ask me to do that like that. That
51:13
Speaker 2: might not go well. So you got to be kind
51:15
Speaker 2: of tactful with how you approach this. But there's gotta
51:19
Speaker 2: be some sort of like maybe you gotta tell your wife,
51:22
Speaker 2: maybe you know your fiance, like we got to get
51:25
Speaker 2: this back, like this is kind of gotten egregious. Maybe
51:28
Speaker 2: you work through the parents, but then you got to
51:32
Speaker 2: balance it where you don't feel like you're gossiping about them.
51:35
Speaker 2: I don't know, you're in a tough situation. I do
51:37
Speaker 2: know this, though, you got to plug the hole before
51:40
Speaker 2: that before that leak gets way worse. So you got
51:43
Speaker 2: to be very careful. This thing could take on a
51:46
Speaker 2: life of its own. I don't have a great answer
51:49
Speaker 2: for you, though no one's ever asked me, and I'm
51:53
Speaker 2: the last guy in my life to have a baby.
51:56
Speaker 2: I guess I got one more buddy who probably have
51:58
Speaker 2: a baby here soon. But brothers, cousins, friends. Like most
52:04
Speaker 2: everyone I know has a little kid. I've never ever
52:06
Speaker 2: gone to someone's house with a baby and changed someone
52:10
Speaker 2: else's diaper. The first diaper I've ever changed was my
52:13
Speaker 2: own son's, and I do think for the most part,
52:17
Speaker 2: for a guy, that should be the case unless something
52:21
Speaker 2: situation like you know, a tragedy happens or something you
52:26
Speaker 2: take over someone else's child totally. But I in a
52:28
Speaker 2: situation like that, that that that to me feels egregious.
52:32
Speaker 2: That does I just moved my whole family out to
52:37
Speaker 2: California from Kansas and started law school at Stanford. Jesus,
52:41
Speaker 2: we got a smart listener. Your pod has been great
52:44
Speaker 2: to football, and I love to hear your Chiefs take
52:46
Speaker 2: since you know Beach and Andy. My question, I keep
52:49
Speaker 2: seeing pundit's discounting the Chiefs as if they were not
52:52
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl over and over. I trust the
52:54
Speaker 2: team to get back, but something has seemed off with
52:57
Speaker 2: their offense the last few years. What do you think
52:59
Speaker 2: needs to change? Well, Mahomes wasn't good last year. Running
53:04
Speaker 2: the ball has been a problem. So easiest way to
53:06
Speaker 2: get Mahomes back on track take a little pressure off
53:09
Speaker 2: them run the football. Get Kenneth Walker, be very fascinated.
53:15
Speaker 2: Improve the offensive line. You draft Simmons last year, you
53:18
Speaker 2: already got a couple good interior offensive linemen. You draft
53:21
Speaker 2: to right tackle at nine, and boom, you got a
53:24
Speaker 2: good offensive line. That's simple. So and what do you
53:28
Speaker 2: do with a good up run the ball? You still
53:30
Speaker 2: got Kelsey or she Rice if he doesn't get suspended
53:33
Speaker 2: for life, and you know Worthy is an interesting player.
53:38
Speaker 2: You could draft a weapon in the second round, whether
53:42
Speaker 2: that's a tight end, whether that's a wide receiver. I
53:46
Speaker 2: think you use it on a skill guy in the
53:47
Speaker 2: second round. But you just lost a ton of dudes
53:51
Speaker 2: on defense as well, so she's have some holes. There's
53:55
Speaker 2: no way around that. I would feel pretty confident that
53:59
Speaker 2: it at least maybe twenty six won't be a Super
54:03
Speaker 2: Bowl year, but like you should be a playoff team
54:05
Speaker 2: if I'm home Sealthie. With Shane Lowry's meltdown, you mentioned
54:09
Speaker 2: the viewers love to see golfer struggle and choke, and
54:12
Speaker 2: I agree. I always love watching the US Open when
54:15
Speaker 2: guys are making bogies and scoring around even part. But
54:19
Speaker 2: why is this in other sports? We don't root for
54:22
Speaker 2: guys to choke or suck unless they're playing against your team.
54:26
Speaker 2: We'd never say we enjoy watching Mahomes throw picks or
54:30
Speaker 2: see KD misshots. I think this is pretty simple because
54:36
Speaker 2: when you watch football or you watch baseball, you watch basketball,
54:41
Speaker 2: you want to see greatness. Right, It's cool to watch
54:44
Speaker 2: a guy just drain Steph Curry draining threes, or guy
54:48
Speaker 2: hit home runs or sweet plays on a football field.
54:54
Speaker 2: Most of us after high school are not playing any
54:56
Speaker 2: of those sports, so it's like you kind of dream
54:59
Speaker 2: like what would be like to play to be sweet.
55:02
Speaker 2: A lot of people that watch golf play golf and
55:06
Speaker 2: suck at golf. So the most relatable thing when you're
55:10
Speaker 2: watching the best players or the random guy on the
55:14
Speaker 2: PGA tour do is to hit a crappy shot, pump
55:18
Speaker 2: one ob hit one in the water. You know why,
55:21
Speaker 2: because whether you're a five handicap or whether you're a
55:23
Speaker 2: twenty handicap, if I say, hey, this hole's for one
55:26
Speaker 2: hundred bucks, we have all or this holes for five bucks.
55:30
Speaker 2: Hit one behind a tree, hit one in a bush,
55:32
Speaker 2: hit one in the water, it actually is like, damn,
55:35
Speaker 2: can't believe he did that, because you know you can
55:37
Speaker 2: do that. When I see Aaron Judge or Bryce Harper
55:41
Speaker 2: hit one four hundred and fifty feet, none of us
55:43
Speaker 2: are doing that. When I see Saquon bust a seventy
55:48
Speaker 2: yard run, you know, twenty five miles an hour, like
55:51
Speaker 2: I've never seen that before, and that's no one's doing that, right,
55:56
Speaker 2: Or when you watch Lebron or Kevin Durant or whoever,
55:59
Speaker 2: it's like, never seen anyone that could do that. We're
56:02
Speaker 2: in golf. I've seen guys that get in the water.
56:05
Speaker 2: I'd literally hit in the water. I just think it's
56:06
Speaker 2: a relatable. Golf's the one sport that people can play
56:11
Speaker 2: in their sixties seventies. We could argue whether it's activity
56:15
Speaker 2: that you can play well in your seventies if you're
56:19
Speaker 2: in decent health. No one's playing tackle football, like if
56:24
Speaker 2: you don't play in high school or college past twenty one.
56:29
Speaker 2: You know, even people that play like beer league softball,
56:32
Speaker 2: it's a lot different than like fast pitch baseball, even
56:36
Speaker 2: like a run at the gym, it's a lot different
56:39
Speaker 2: than playing organized high school or college basketball. So playing
56:43
Speaker 2: golf's playing golf. Like Shane Lowry melting down at what
56:50
Speaker 2: was that the cognizant a couple of weeks ago. Is
56:53
Speaker 2: he would hit the same shot you would if you're
56:55
Speaker 2: standing there one hundred and eighty yard part three. We've
56:58
Speaker 2: all played one hundred and eighty yard part three. So
57:00
Speaker 2: the one thing I say about golf that's different than
57:02
Speaker 2: my relationship with football is like, I'm never gonna play
57:06
Speaker 2: a football game on Lambeufield, right, I'm never going to
57:10
Speaker 2: play a pickup game at MSG. But I've played Olympic Club,
57:16
Speaker 2: I've played TBC Scottsdale like I've played or I've walked
57:21
Speaker 2: you know, Pebble Beach and iron A Mick and you
57:24
Speaker 2: know some of these courses. I've played LACC where the
57:27
Speaker 2: head of US Open. I can do the things the
57:29
Speaker 2: pros do. And that's what makes I think golf just
57:31
Speaker 2: this unique connection to people that play it, that also
57:35
Speaker 2: watch the pros play. Then I never played in the NFL.
57:39
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like to you know, have
57:42
Speaker 2: a broken you know, toe and try to block Miles Garrett.
57:47
Speaker 2: But I like watching it. I enjoy it. I respect
57:50
Speaker 2: the shit out of it. Question with the McDuffie trade,
57:55
Speaker 2: do you still think Chris Jones is traded? I know
57:57
Speaker 2: you were saying that at the start of the offseason,
57:59
Speaker 2: but now I don't anymore. I mean, at this point
58:02
Speaker 2: in time, I would guess he's just on the team,
58:05
Speaker 2: and I guess I underestimated their emotional connection. I obviously
58:10
Speaker 2: with Mahomes like he's their quarterback, but Chris Jones, Travis Kelcey,
58:14
Speaker 2: I think they are much more connected and vested with
58:17
Speaker 2: those guys than the average team is with an aging veteran,
58:22
Speaker 2: so that they there's a connection that Andy has with
58:25
Speaker 2: those guys. That is something that I underestimated because I
58:29
Speaker 2: would have bet he was traded, And not only is
58:31
Speaker 2: he not traded, he's probably gonna be He's clearly gonna
58:33
Speaker 2: be on the team next year, and they'd probably say
58:35
Speaker 2: we need him on the team, which kind of understand
58:39
Speaker 2: for the mail back, specifically Fugazi Friday. On a scale
58:43
Speaker 2: of one to ten, how Fugazi was bam out of
58:46
Speaker 2: bios eight three point game against the Wizards, Well, he
58:51
Speaker 2: shot forty three free throw attempts. What do you make
58:53
Speaker 2: thirty eight of them? I googled it today. It's the
58:56
Speaker 2: most free throw attempts ever in a game. He shot
58:58
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty percent from the field, and he
59:00
Speaker 2: shot under thirty percent from three, so blow league averages
59:03
Speaker 2: on both. I don't I didn't do a deep dive
59:07
Speaker 2: into Kobe's game against the Raptors, who I could be wrong.
59:13
Speaker 2: I don't think we're good that year, and they were
59:16
Speaker 2: up twenty and he stayed in the game. I never
59:18
Speaker 2: have a problem with the guy staying in a game
59:20
Speaker 2: when he has a lot of points. I was was
59:23
Speaker 2: I there? No, I don't think I was watching home.
59:28
Speaker 2: I won so many Warriors games, saw so many moments.
59:31
Speaker 2: I think I was watching in Memoryville. When Clay had
59:33
Speaker 2: the thirty seven quarter, I thought Steve Kurs should let
59:36
Speaker 2: him play the whole game and get like seventy points.
59:38
Speaker 2: But he didn't because they were up a ton. They
59:41
Speaker 2: were back then, they were blowing everybody out and maybe
59:45
Speaker 2: the game wasn't Sacramento. I don't even remember, but the
59:48
Speaker 2: thirty seven point quarters, Clay's had more important moments like
59:53
Speaker 2: this game six against OKC. But that is the craziest
59:57
Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen, probably any player do. I mean,
1:00:00
Speaker 2: it was absurd. He couldn't miss, and I'm all for
1:00:04
Speaker 2: just like, let it, just let it play out whatever,
1:00:08
Speaker 2: But when you are not making that many shots and
1:00:10
Speaker 2: getting fouled at the rate. Then I googled last night
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Speaker 2: because I was on the group text for three and out,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, how many points this guy average? Twenty? So
1:00:18
Speaker 2: I googled it. He averages eighteen point like five. So
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Speaker 2: it's not like Bam is Kobe or Wilt like a
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Speaker 2: guy that you know is a thirty thirty five point
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Speaker 2: a game scorer. It's not that it's not his game. Really,
1:00:30
Speaker 2: So when I saw the ticker com, I went, this
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Speaker 2: is this fake? I honestly had the same reaction when
1:00:36
Speaker 2: I saw Bam scored eighty three. Then when I saw
1:00:39
Speaker 2: the the Ravens did takebacks, I didn't believe it. I
1:00:44
Speaker 2: thought it was fake. And then once you see the numbers,
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Speaker 2: you're like, what what now? I also don't want to
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Speaker 2: sound like a hater. You score eighty three, you score
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Speaker 2: eighty three. I just think we've seen some scoring games,
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Speaker 2: you know, the sixty pointers over the years. Obviously Kobe's one.
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Speaker 2: I just felt like I don't know something. Kobe, Wilt,
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Speaker 2: and Bam Autebio are on the same list. How many
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Speaker 2: did Kobe score his last game? Oh, he scored fifty
1:01:18
Speaker 2: so Kobe's last game, which is one of the cooler
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Speaker 2: games I've ever watched. And I'm a Laker hater. I
1:01:25
Speaker 2: mainly I hated Kobe, and then I liked him a
1:01:28
Speaker 2: lot once he retired. But in that game, Kobe had
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Speaker 2: fifty point, No, he had sixty points. He went in
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Speaker 2: twenty two of fifty and six of twenty one from
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Speaker 2: three point, but he he only took twelve free throws.
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Speaker 2: Like to shoot forty three free throws, That to me
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Speaker 2: is I haven't watched any of the game, honestly, I
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Speaker 2: haven't even watched the highlights. But when you tell me
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Speaker 2: he shot forty three free throws, that to me is
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Speaker 2: a pretty big that's a pretty big fugazi. And I
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Speaker 2: get it. You're playing a team that doesn't want to win.
1:02:08
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go to this box scorer. So he
1:02:12
Speaker 2: was twenty of forty three, So that's that's whatever. You're
1:02:17
Speaker 2: gunning seven to twenty two from three, which isn't great,
1:02:22
Speaker 2: but you shoot seven three, you make seven threes, you
1:02:24
Speaker 2: score twenty points. The thirty six to forty three free
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Speaker 2: throws like that is fucking absurd. There was no one
1:02:32
Speaker 2: in this game, like, none of the Wizards had more
1:02:34
Speaker 2: than eight. What would you say is a lot of
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Speaker 2: free throws in the game for a player to take,
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Speaker 2: like fourteen, eighteen, forty three. How's that even possible? How
1:02:45
Speaker 2: many guys fouled out on the Wizards. Doesn't look like
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Speaker 2: anyone did forty three free throw attempts. To me, that's
1:02:54
Speaker 2: the fugazi like, you just you just can't have that
1:02:57
Speaker 2: many free throw attempts in us to take the game
1:03:00
Speaker 2: is like, okay, that's like an all time great game. Okay,
1:03:16
Speaker 2: we'll end on this. Bears fan here, I feel as
1:03:19
Speaker 2: the Packers are a tooling their teams this season. Wouldn't
1:03:23
Speaker 2: this open up an opportunity for the Bears to be
1:03:25
Speaker 2: all in? Specifically with Caleb's rookie deal, I feel like
1:03:29
Speaker 2: there's pressure for Chicago to take the next two years,
1:03:32
Speaker 2: you really take the next step into being a super
1:03:34
Speaker 2: Bowl team. I totally agree. I said this the other day.
1:03:37
Speaker 2: If Caleb gets a little bit better and they make
1:03:40
Speaker 2: an aggressive move or have a good draft, like, I
1:03:43
Speaker 2: don't see why they couldn't be the number one seed
1:03:46
Speaker 2: in the NFC or compete to be the number one
1:03:48
Speaker 2: seed in the NFC. I mean, this year they were
1:03:50
Speaker 2: technically the two seed, but I think we all agree
1:03:53
Speaker 2: it was a little smoke and mirrors is a two seed, right,
1:03:58
Speaker 2: They just have these magical moments. The defense was bad.
1:04:01
Speaker 2: I do think next year like they could be really
1:04:03
Speaker 2: good if they make a move or two to go
1:04:07
Speaker 2: into next year. Whether that's trade a draft pick for
1:04:10
Speaker 2: a player, still acquire a guy, I don't know, but
1:04:13
Speaker 2: they are. They got multiple picks at the end of
1:04:16
Speaker 2: the second round. Maybe they can move up in the
1:04:18
Speaker 2: first round package one of those picks to get hired
1:04:21
Speaker 2: to pick a better player. But I think this year
1:04:25
Speaker 2: they have a big time opportunity. Right. Seattle's still gonna
1:04:28
Speaker 2: be good, The Rams are gonna be favored. The forty
1:04:31
Speaker 2: nine ers have a bunch of injuries still, the Eagles
1:04:35
Speaker 2: got a lot going on. The South stinks, the Packers
1:04:39
Speaker 2: and the Lions, all these teams have a lot of
1:04:41
Speaker 2: question marks. The Vikings don't have a quarterback, so I
1:04:47
Speaker 2: think it's wide open for the I'm with you, I
1:04:50
Speaker 2: think there's a great opportunity. If you tell me, Caleb
1:04:53
Speaker 2: is way more accurate this year, they easily could be
1:04:56
Speaker 2: like a thirteen to fourteen, like legitimate, like this team
1:04:59
Speaker 2: can win the Super I think we all agree, like
1:05:01
Speaker 2: they weren't gonna win the Super Bowl last year with
1:05:02
Speaker 2: their defense, but if their defense is just solid and
1:05:05
Speaker 2: he gets like, doesn't just need the magical moments, but
1:05:08
Speaker 2: he can just be consistently good for quarters right and
1:05:11
Speaker 2: not just have like awful moments where he's like skipping
1:05:15
Speaker 2: balls or airmailing balls. They could be dumb with their coach.
1:05:21
Speaker 2: I'm pretty high on the Bears coming in next year.
1:05:23
Speaker 2: But also like, that's what's fascinating about pro sports is
1:05:26
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna be high on them. Everyone's gonna be blowing them,
1:05:30
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna annoint them, Like how do they respond? And
1:05:34
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to watch And I'm that was as fun
1:05:38
Speaker 2: as I had watching football. Watching their team play last year.
1:05:40
Speaker 2: It was from an entertainment standpoint, and I got no
1:05:43
Speaker 2: dog in the fight. Just watching them play it was
1:05:46
Speaker 2: a joy. It was fun to watch Bears football. I
1:05:50
Speaker 2: love big cities that love football. Their home games were awesome,
1:05:54
Speaker 2: Their Packer games were incredible. That Rams game was just
1:05:59
Speaker 2: theater it was. It was thoroughly enjoyable. If I'm a
1:06:02
Speaker 2: Bears fan, I'm with you. I think, like, hey, hey, poles.
1:06:06
Speaker 2: If the opportunity strikes, let's put the chips in the
1:06:09
Speaker 2: middle of the table and let's go for broke. Here
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Speaker 2: the volume m HM