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25W: Bobby's Reaction to UFC Fighters Son Going Viral for Violent Beatdown + CBS Sports Reporter Brandon Marcello on Texas-Ohio State + Top 10 Hardest Positions in All of Sports · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Bite, everybody's here. We got a
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  Speaker 1: Now, there is no Eddie for this part. We recorded
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  Speaker 1: a part earlier, but Eddie.
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  Speaker 2: Had to leave.
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  Speaker 1: We record this out of order sometimes, especially when we
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  Speaker 1: have an interview. Eddie got sick, so you'll hear Eddie later.
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  Speaker 1: But then after we recorded this, Eddie got sick going home.
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  Speaker 1: I will start and I'm I'm sad edd He's not here.
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  Speaker 1: But Rampage Jackson's son, Mike, did you watch this? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So let me give everybody the the what happened? So,
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  Speaker 1: Rampage Jackson is a UFC fighter way famous ten years ago,
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  Speaker 1: still famous, but like Way fighter famous ten years ago.
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  Speaker 1: His son is now twenty two, twenty three around that age,
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  Speaker 1: and his son is a streamer. I think his name's
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  Speaker 1: like Raja Raja, right, Raja r Ajh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rajah Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: So he went to like a local wrestling promotion and
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  Speaker 1: he's out there talking to the wrestlers beforehand. One of
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  Speaker 1: the guys, who's obviously a wrestler and there are cameras everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: thinks that he's one of the he looks like one
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  Speaker 1: of the wrestlers. He's a big dude, and he takes
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  Speaker 1: a can the can is empty, and does a wrestler
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  Speaker 1: move on him and hits him in the hit with
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  Speaker 1: the can, except there was nothing in the can, and
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  Speaker 1: he did the thing where he like over it and
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  Speaker 1: took the most of the blow within his hand to
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  Speaker 1: look like it.
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  Speaker 2: Am I making sense there? Yeah? It was a fake can.
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  Speaker 1: Hit well, so Rajah Jackson is like, all right, let's fight.
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  Speaker 1: Then like really wants to fight the dude, so they're
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  Speaker 1: trying to split them up. Then you see the clip
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  Speaker 1: of them talking about it and the wrestler we'll call
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  Speaker 1: him the wrestler in Raja. The wrestler is like, my bad, dude.
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  Speaker 1: All these cameras were around. I thought this was like
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  Speaker 1: part of the show. Sorry about that, and they shake hands.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're like all good, all good. So it
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  Speaker 1: went from being a misunderstanding and the misunderstanding I could
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  Speaker 1: have understood Rajah Jackson getting upset, although he is.
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  Speaker 2: He's a big streamer, so he's got cameras all around.
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  Speaker 1: I get why both had a misunderstanding, but I got
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  Speaker 1: it he didn't he's gonna hit in the head with the can.
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  Speaker 1: But he also didn't really get hit in the head
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  Speaker 1: with the can. It was a fake empty can. They
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  Speaker 1: were doing a work. Then there's a big apology, sorry, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: all good.
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  Speaker 2: Hugged it out.
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  Speaker 1: Then in the ring they had it set up a
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  Speaker 1: roja was gonna come in and attack the wrestler. The
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  Speaker 1: wrestler I didn't know him. His name is Psycho Stu.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like just a regional thing, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think kind of kind of fat guy and like
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  Speaker 1: not like John Cena.
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  Speaker 6: Normal big dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Roja Jackson runs in the ring, jumps on
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  Speaker 1: him and just starts to He picks him up first
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  Speaker 1: of all, and slams him like UFC fighter hard and
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  Speaker 1: starts to punch him in the face over and over
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  Speaker 1: again with all of his might, like and so even
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  Speaker 1: the people in the ring don't know it's fake at first.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody runs in, It's like, I don't know what's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do here, And then finally they realized it and
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  Speaker 1: they piled him off.
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  Speaker 2: But the dude, apparently the wrestler was unresponsive.
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  Speaker 7: I mean he wasn't moving in the ring, he was
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  Speaker 7: just laying there.
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  Speaker 1: He got punched so many times as hard as this
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  Speaker 1: kid could punch him in the face. So then you
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  Speaker 1: see the footage of him like people calling him like
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  Speaker 1: you can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, no, you can't. Just it looked to me
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  Speaker 2: like Rajah Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: People were talking crapped him in his chain and he
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  Speaker 1: had to go prove to a streamers that he's about that.
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  Speaker 1: I think his chat talked him into being rage filled
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  Speaker 1: because they apologized.
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  Speaker 2: They had the whole hug it out moment. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: even gone to the story because I know you hit
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  Speaker 2: me an official story on it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you just hear everybody in the crowd
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  Speaker 7: like realize that it's not a bit, and everybody just
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  Speaker 7: starts screaming yep. And then it take us like five
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  Speaker 7: or six people to like a pin him down.
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  Speaker 2: You watched the punching, Yeah, it was hard to look at.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you were hitting like a lifeless body.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was, his punching a lifeless body.
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  Speaker 1: It started outside of the building before the event. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna read the news story now because I just gave
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  Speaker 1: you my interpretation of it all.
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  Speaker 2: Raja got into a confrontation with Psycho Stu.
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  Speaker 1: Stu hit him in the head with aluminum can Stu
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  Speaker 1: thought Roja was a wrestler and since there was a
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  Speaker 1: camera on him, he figured they should put on a show.
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  Speaker 2: But Raja didn't take it that way. He was pissed.
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  Speaker 1: The other wrestlers explained to Roger that Stu was just
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  Speaker 1: doing wrestling stuff and not really trying to start anything.
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  Speaker 2: They shook hands.
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  Speaker 1: They decided to turn it into a work by having
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  Speaker 1: Raja attack him in the ring.
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  Speaker 2: Later, things got interesting.
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  Speaker 1: One the wrestlers took Raja's side and said, hey, Stu
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  Speaker 1: is an idiot for hitting you with a can. He
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  Speaker 1: told Raja he should give Stu a receipt, which is
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  Speaker 1: a code. And this happens in wrestling where you actually
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  Speaker 1: like hit somebody once to go, hey, don't do things
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  Speaker 1: that are kind of against the integrity of wrestling. You
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  Speaker 1: hear a lot of the eighties and nineties guys talk
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  Speaker 1: about giving receipts. And you see him on his phone
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  Speaker 1: reading the chat and he's like, no, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go in and beat the crap out of him. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna like the chow was firing him up. And then
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  Speaker 1: someone also filled him on the streets after the attack,
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  Speaker 1: and he said he was tired of people playing with them.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's running down the street screaming.
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  Speaker 1: Oh goly LAPD's investigating if he doesn't get charged. He
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  Speaker 1: was beating a lifeless body and Psycho Stu, it's crazy
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  Speaker 1: to call somebody that just psycho Stu thought it was
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  Speaker 1: going to happen, but he thought it was gonna happen
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  Speaker 1: in a different way, so it made himself vulnerable to
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  Speaker 1: be picked up and slammed. He had no way to
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  Speaker 1: defend himself because he was allowing that to happen to him,
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  Speaker 1: to which he thought it was fake. He slams them
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  Speaker 1: so hard as head hits and.
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  Speaker 2: Then it's just punch punch. Oh my god, it's awful.
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  Speaker 2: It is awful.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of wrestling, John Cenas retirement date is happening. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be on Saturday Night's main event in December, his
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  Speaker 1: final match December thirteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Is this gonna be like cowboy rides away or no, like.
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  Speaker 1: He's not gonna go Well, it's not that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: go away. He goes away, but every once in a
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  Speaker 1: while he comes back.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's wrestling. The Rock still comes back from
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  Speaker 7: time to time. So I think it's him retiring from
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  Speaker 7: being in the ring as far as like in a match,
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  Speaker 7: but I think he'll come back.
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  Speaker 1: The other fight, and we talk about this with Brandon Marcelo,
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  Speaker 1: was the fight after the Kansas State football game and
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  Speaker 1: you see Avery Johnson's dad fighting somebody. Avery Johnson's the
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  Speaker 1: Kansas State quarterback. Kansas State got beat. It was a
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  Speaker 1: close game, two good teams in Ireland. I watched the
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  Speaker 1: whole game. It was Kansas State and Iowa State all
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  Speaker 1: rooting for Kansas State because I bet Kansas State and
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  Speaker 1: you see they're like, Avery Johnson's dad's in a fight.
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  Speaker 2: Turns out he was beating up his son. The other brother.
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  Speaker 8: Is everybody okay exactly.
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  Speaker 2: They've all They've released the joint statement since then. But
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy because you just go, somebody must have talked crap
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  Speaker 1: to Avery Johnson's dad and he's like, I've got a
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  Speaker 1: couple of.
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  Speaker 2: Beers, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: But turns out it was the dad and the sun
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  Speaker 1: his other Avery Johnson's brother.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy. Uh so, yeah, that's what's up. Football was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I lost like seven hundred dollars in the first game
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  Speaker 1: because I bet Kansas State minus three and then I
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: bet them plus two and a half.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: Once they went down.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: They ended up losing by three, so I lost both
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: both of those bets. Then I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: screw this, I'm going all on in Kansas because I
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: know coach Leipold's little bet and so I.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: Bet Kansas heavy and they ran. It was awesome.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: Kurt Warner's son is the present State quarterback. Though lost
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: the game they were supposed to lose. I think the
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: spread was like thirteen. I bet Kansas minus thirteen. They
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: easily covered, but I made all my money back plus.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: But I was about to go heavy in the whole
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: Week one, heavy in the begins already, Yes, heavy in
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: the whole.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: Do we want to go to Brandon? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's go over my chat with I'm not
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: calling the best in the business when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: reporting and talking college football, Brandon Marcelo. Brandon is one
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: of the guys who never says, hey, what do you
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: what are you going to talk about?
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: So I can be ready.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: He's just like, let's go, Brandon will be joining us
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  Speaker 1: a bunch. You can follow Brandon at Brandon Marslo on Instagram,
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: at b Marcelo on Twitter, and then read his articles
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: at cbssports dot com. Here he is, Brandon Marcello. Before
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: we get to a bit of week zero in Week one,
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: what is the what's the what's the new job you
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: have here?
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: Brandon? You on the sideline you're gonna be doing for
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: reporting or what?
• 9:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna be doing a little bit of everything.
• 9:39
  Speaker 5: This year, I'm going to be on the sideline doing
• 9:42
  Speaker 5: some reporting for CBS Sports Network during this season. I've
• 9:46
  Speaker 5: got one game on the book so far, and in
• 9:49
  Speaker 5: addition to my other duties for CBS Sports dot Com
• 9:52
  Speaker 5: writing and then also on TV for CBS Sports HQ
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  Speaker 5: and our new podcast we launch College College Football Insiders.
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  Speaker 5: So very very busy times, but exciting because it's football season.
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: I saw your jacket. That's gonna be pretty cool. We
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: got the old CBS jacket, the logo.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's official.
• 10:09
  Speaker 5: I was not expecting that. I totally like flipped my mind, like,
• 10:12
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, we still do that. And they asked for
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: my address, and when I got it, I my heart
• 10:18
  Speaker 5: was just it's an absolute dream. I don't even know
• 10:20
  Speaker 5: how to describe it. It was just it's insane. It's incredible.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: And I was so happy for you when I saw that,
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: because that's like a thing like when they send you,
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: they send you the actual jacket with their own mind.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: They're paying for that, And anytime anybody pays for anything,
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: it means they're investing in you. They've promoted you into
• 10:35
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• 10:36
  Speaker 2: I felt proud for it. Not proud of you, but
• 10:38
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• 10:40
  Speaker 6: Thanks.
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Bobby. I appreciate it, man, and listen, I've been
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: doing this soul for a while and just you just
• 10:46
  Speaker 5: got to keep working hard. At some point, you know,
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: you'll start getting opportunities. So I really appreciate it.
• 10:50
  Speaker 6: Bobby.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit a week zero.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: I saw the article you wrote about Abrad Johnson at
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: Kansas State. Did you happen to know that his dad
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: and brother were also beefing with each other?
• 10:59
  Speaker 5: I had no idea until I saw the video and
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: then the statement they released after the game. You know,
• 11:05
  Speaker 5: tippers flair among families, I guess, especially competitive families, and
• 11:09
  Speaker 5: I was but I was shocked. I mean it was
• 11:11
  Speaker 5: a legit street fight, like in the in the water,
• 11:14
  Speaker 5: in the rain street. Hey, that's the day and age
• 11:18
  Speaker 5: we live in. You better be aware that everybody's got
• 11:21
  Speaker 5: a camera, obviously, and if you're gonna do something publicly,
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be caught on film.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: And it did not.
• 11:26
  Speaker 5: I mean it was out within like an hour like
• 11:28
  Speaker 5: after the game, that it was out there already. You
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: just gotta keep yourself I mean, save that for the
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: hotel room. Go back to the hotel room and do
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: your fight if you have to.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: I saw the clip at first, and it said Avery
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: Johnson's dad gets into fight and it looked like he
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: was pounding somebody over a mud puddle or like a
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: concrete puddle.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: Right, it was one of those. And then later it.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Came out that that was Avery Johnson's brother, so also
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: his son, right, so all that, like, do we have
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: any idea why they fought?
• 11:55
  Speaker 5: No clue, no idea. I mean, obviously it was a drama,
• 12:00
  Speaker 5: had a game and heartbreaking loss the way they lost
• 12:02
  Speaker 5: it because Kansas State, you know, went four on fourth
• 12:04
  Speaker 5: down late, didn't get it. Iowa State got the ball
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: back and was able to go score to win the game.
• 12:11
  Speaker 5: I'm sure there was Listen, there's always sibling rivalries too,
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: you know. You know, I would love to have been
• 12:19
  Speaker 5: a fly in the stands to hear what they were
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: saying while everything was happening there at the end of
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: I thought there were a couple of pretty fun Week
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: zero games. I thought that was a pretty good game
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: because I watched I watched two full games. I watched
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: the Iowa State Kansas State game, which I'll say I don't.
• 12:36
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: I don't mind the.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: Games overseas, like I feel like they could be annoying
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: for the players. And why are colleges going over? I
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: get NFL going over, you're trying to stretch the brand,
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: but college is a little weird. But in Ireland, where
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: it rains a lot playing in it's not even a dome,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Like everything just fell off about that.
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand why they do either. And in fact,
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of coaches out there that have told me, like,
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: we will go overseas, Like if they tell me it's
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: up to me, I will say, no, absolutely not. And
• 13:05
  Speaker 5: you saw it on display Saturday. I mean the yard
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  Speaker 5: markers were barely even visible on the field. Even repainted
• 13:11
  Speaker 5: them at halftime and they're still not visible. The field
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: was just an absolute mess. And plus just the travel
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: for it. You know, Kansas State didn't actually lead to
• 13:20
  Speaker 5: a little bit later for game week than you usually do.
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: A lot of NFL teams have started doing that a
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  Speaker 5: little bit because they just want to get there, get
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: one day rest and then get in and get out.
• 13:32
  Speaker 5: And I don't know what the best way to do
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: that is, but to go six time zones away to
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: go play one game, especially season opener, I don't know,
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: unless there's a lot of money into that. In the future,
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: I think we're gonna see less games like that. And Bobby,
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: I mean you've seen this, like there's been less and
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: less neutral site games early in the year. We're gonna
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: have a few this year, but we're moving further and
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: further away from that too. And the reason why is
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: because these athletic directors want to bring games on campus
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: so they can sell tickets, sell concessions, and then also
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: get some better revenue from that, because as we've seen nowadays,
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: is the revenue sharing you with the players. You've got
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: to get every every ounce you can out of those
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  Speaker 5: fans with their tickets.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: I'll go one more game from this past weekend and
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: I watched the Kansas p Fresno State game. It feels
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: like both Kansas programs, and I know Kansas State lost,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: but definitely that program is in an upward trajectory. Same
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: with Kansas. They have a new stadium. They looked fast.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: The quarterback that we saw play Arkansas real close a
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, he looked awesome.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: He was healthy.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: He's his sixty year playing, So like Kansas really looked
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: fast yesterday.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Kansas.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna be really good this year. They're going
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: to be right in the thick of things, especially if
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: Jayaln Daniels, the quarterback, as you mentioned in stay healthy
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: because his issue the reason why he's playing in six years,
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: because he's had injuries over and over and over again.
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: They've mostly had to deal with his back. And if
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: you have a back injury, even back spasms, I mean,
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: that is so difficult to get rid of and even
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: be able to play one hundred percent even when you
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: are able to on the field. That's going to be
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: key for them. Can Jalen Daniels stay healthy. And at
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: your point about Kansas and Kansas State, but both being
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: good at the same time. That's kind of been the
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: case off and off of better part of the last
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: four years. A little bit down year obviously with Kansas
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: last year because of the injury of Jalen Daniels, but
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: both programs led by former FCS head coaches who won
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: championships on the FCS level, and again it just shows
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: you that if you're a championship type coach. That translates
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: to no matter what level, really and Kansas and Kansas
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: State did a smart thing and just said, hey, these
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: guys win titles, they know how to build rosters. Bring
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: them over here, and let's do that here. And the
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: more remarkable job of rebuilding has been done by Lancelipold
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: at Kansas, because that place was absolutely in the dumps
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: in the Big Twelve. Then all of a sudden a
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: few years back, they beat Texas on the road in
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: a high scoring, really exciting game. And now they're on
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: the rise, and they've got a three hundred and fifty
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: million dollars stadium to boot. They've got things really rolling
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: there in Lawrence.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I think coach, I wouldn't say a friend, but almost friend.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Where we text, I like coach like paul a lot,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: and so I text him yesterday. I waited till way
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: after the game, and I said, this is typical coach
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: to speak back, but I said, hey, you guys look
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: really fast, because I thought they did. They looked really fast.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I said, solid week one, stadium looks great. Hope you're good,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: and he sent the text back, Thanks, Bobby, appreciate the text.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Proud of the team, but plenty to clean up, so
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: you know, classic coach speak, the stadium turned out.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Great, come up here for a game.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I really like him and I like that he's been
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: able to go because he turned Buffalo around two, right,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and those are terrible blue colors, and it's harder to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: turn around a blue team than any other team. I
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: have a theory, and so you know I'm rooting for
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: both those Kansas teams. It's the Fresno State coach. Also
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a coach that came from the same pedigree and then
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: went to USC for a year and now it's coaching
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: for Fresno State. And I think you're seeing those guys
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: that come from those building those winning programs. If you'll
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: give them some time, they also can build at the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Division one level as well, right.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, I mean look at Kaylin de Bort Alabama.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: I mean he came from like the Naia level and
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: then moved his way up Division III level, actually moved
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: his way up and then landed at Washington and took
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: them to the National Championship Game. Then obviously now coaching Alabama,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: which some would argue is the top job in America.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: But he's never really been in a job where he's
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: facing the Mets pressure, and last year was their first
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: non ten win season and since two thousand and seven,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: so like now all the pressure's like, well, you better
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: win ten, eleven, twelve games getting the playoff this year,
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: or you're the worst coach ever. But you know, the
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: guy just simply wins. He wins like ninety percent of
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: his games, which is almost unheard of these days.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Texas and Ohio State we're starting off.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't You couldn't bang bigger to start
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: off the season.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Which team is more loaded with stars?
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: That's a great question. I think Ohio State by the
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: end of the year will be. You know, when you
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: think Ohio State, all you think of is Jeremiah Smith
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Caleb downs there on the back end at safety. But
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: they've got other players on that ross that aren't quite
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: proven yet that I think are going to end up
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: being superstars, like maybe a James Peoples at running back.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: The thing with Ohio State though, like a lot of
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: teams these days, but the thing with Ohio State is
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: they lose practically everybody on defense, and they lose a
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: lot of guys on offense as well, including the quarterback
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Will Howard. But you got Jeremiah Smith, so everybody just
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: kind of says, well, Ohio State's a top three, top
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: four team this year. I think early in the year here,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Ohio State might struggle a little bit because they're gonna
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: be trying to find their identity with all these new pieces,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: even though they're very talented and they've been backups most
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: of their careers there, Whereas with Texas, I think you'll
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: notice more names you like. Of course Arch Maining, we
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: know him. But with Texas, the thing for them is
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: that they're really talent along the defensive front, and they've
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: got some really great players there. It's just that no
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: one considers alignment a household name. So guys like Colin
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Simmons and those got type of guys. They're phenomenal, some
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: of the best players you'll see on a football field
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: in week one, but no one goes out and puts
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: posters on their walls of defensive linemen. But Ohio State.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Ohio State's gonna have the bigger names, I think by
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: the end of the year. But Texas might right now
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: just simply have the most proven superstar types that are
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: maybe not flashy at the skill positions. Other than Arch maining, you're.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: A well connected guy.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Do you think they actually just figured out who their
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback is at Ohio State or they've known and
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: just didn't want to say it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: They've had an inkling since the spring. But the thing
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: with coaches is is they legitimately pretty much try to
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: do a bank slate blank slate when they go into
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: preseason camp and they try to make sure it's an
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: even competition, to give them every opportunity to prove themselves
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: or for that matter, kind of crumble under the pressure.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: And there was a moment there in preseason camp where
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: leacoln Keynolts was able to show something. But it was
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: very clear from the teammates and some of the assistant
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: coaches there that Julian Sane was the more talented guy
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: higher upside ready to take over. Lincoln was more of
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: that veteran type, someone you knew probably wouldn't make a mistake,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: but it's not going to be as flashy with his arm,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: and you know, they just needed to push Julian through
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: these few weeks of preseason camp and see that he
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: can handle all the pressure and everything, and he proved himself.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Clemson for a second, because I wonder
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: if the pendulum is swinging back in a positive way
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: with with Zabo, because it's he doesn't want to go
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and take his out of the portal. He doesn't want
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to do all these new a we'll call him new age,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: but everybody's doing him now. But then you see last
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: year he had basically the least amount of kids leave.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So the culture that he's been building at times, which
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: was zagging while everybody else zigged, it's either going to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: pay off big time this season, right, or he's going
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to have to change. I don't know how he manages
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and builds a team. Would you say that's accurate?
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Possibly? I will say, like, I think he's evolving a
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: little bit, like this past year was the first time
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: he took multiple kids out of the transfer portal. But
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: you're right, absolutely correct in saying that he has not
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: been a guy who's leaned onto the portal. In fact,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: the only portal guys they were end up getting a
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: few the last few years were former walk ons, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: guys that even had played it previously he was bringing back.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: But the difference with Clemson is that he's brought in
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: four and five star kids and they've stayed, they're not leaving,
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: they're not transferring out where. That's happening everywhere else in America,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: and as you mentioned, that's straight up culture. And in
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: this era where I mean most rosters are turning over
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: at least thirty thirty five guys at the very least,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: it's not happening at Clemson. So I think a lot
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: of us assume, based off of the way they finished
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: last year and everybody returning back, that they've got an
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: edge on everybody else on the schedule, and for that matter,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: everybody else in college football because they all know each other,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: they've been in the same system for several years. You
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: don't get that in college football anymore. And they should
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: be one of the top three or four teams in
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: the country this season. And the reason why a lot
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: of pick people picked them to win the national championship.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Penn State at two. How much of that is Drewler.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of that is not necessarily him.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of it is just everybody else
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: that returns around him. And I think the upgrades they've
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: made a receiver through the transfer portal. They've got a
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: guy like Trevor Pinn from Syracuse, who is like eleven
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: hundred twelve hundred yard guy. Remember Penn State, And one
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: thing that's probably been holding them back is just the
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: passing game. They can't throw the ball down the field consistently,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: and Drew Aller has not been very consistent, especially on
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: intermedia and short throws, which is amazing. He'll hit deep throws,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: but like the intermediate stuff, the stuff you need those
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: little chunk plays to keep the ball moving. He has
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: struggled a little bit. But I think the reason why
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Penn State is ranked as high as they are, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I put him number two in my rankings too, is
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: that it's because they returned so much much like Ohio
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: State last year, where they went all in and went
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: to the transfer portal, got the top players they could,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: and then kept everybody that could have once the NFL
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: on campus, guys like Nick Dawkins at center, who's incredibly underrated.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: They are stacked at Penn State this year, and not
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: just on the field, but also on the sideline. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: mean they would hire Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator fresh
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: off winning a national championship at Ohio State, made him
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: the highest paid coordinator in the country. So Penn State
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: is I mean, if they don't have to tell you,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: they're showing you they're all in on this year. They're
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: pushing in the middle of the table that this is
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: the year they've got to win the championship.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: We saw the SEC say we're going to play nine
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: conference games, plus you have to play a game against
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a powerful school, and which is some teams are gonna
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: hapen to do some some restructuring now because you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: looking at twenty six twenty seven, maybe there aren't enough
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: P four games outside of the conference, especially when you
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: have to substitute another conference games.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So the SEC like they're in.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a homer, but shouldn't there be four guaranteed spots
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to the SEC now that we're going nine plus one
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: P four game.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: That's what the Big ten's arguing. But I think because
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: of the SEC now deciding to do this nine game schedule,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: it's actually going to put more pressure on the Big
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Ten to get on board with the other conferences by
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: not doing the four aqs and the CFP doing a
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: sixteen team format, but doing so with the five highest
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: ranked conference champions and eleven at larges. What's been so
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: fascinating about this whole playoff debate is that the Big
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Ten and SEC at the like director were on the
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: same page with the four AQ idea for months because
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: they were a meeting together. Remember they had two big,
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: kind of hushhot secret of meetings in Nashville and then
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: also in New Orleans, and they're all on the same page.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: But then the moment they got away from each other.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: The SEC coaches are like, we like the more at
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: largest because we believe if there's more at large spots,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: the SEC can get six to seven, maybe even eight
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: teams into the playoff, Whereas with the Big Ten, it's
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: a very strong conference at the top. It might be
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: better than anybody else, but they don't have the one
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: through sixteen and one through eighteen depth that the SEC has.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: So if you go back and look at the averages
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: and everything, and I've tried to crunch the math on this,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: the SEC is practically going to be ahead of them
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: every step of the way if it's a five plus eleven,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: which means more money for the SEC and less money
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: for the Big Ten and the Big Ten a lot
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: of ways they want to do this four AQ thing
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: because one, of course, you get four teams in every year,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: even if you probably don't have a fourth team that
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: deserves to be in. So that's money. But also it
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: allows them to create playoff play in games on their
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: conference championship weekend, which is an additional two games in
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: addition to the conference championship game that they can sell
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: to their TV partners. In addition to giving hope to
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: other Big Ten teams that are ranked lower, say as
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: low as number eight, that hey, all we got to
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: do now is win one game and we get a
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: playoff spot. That's exciting. That's exciting for fans, it certainly is.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: But in the end, the more important thing is is
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: that they get the money. And the SEC is kind
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: of fine with how way everything is right now, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: the other conferences don't want to see the Big Ten
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: and SEC have committed spots. Because I do this comparison
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: whenever I hear this, you know, it would be like
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: ten years ago the ACC right after they broke the
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: record for most teams in the NLA Men's Basketball Tournament, saying, hey,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: with the new contract with the men's tournament, we want
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: eight automatic bids every year. The SEC you get three
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: because based off this rolling average, the last five years,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: the SEC has been by far the worst conference in basketball.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: Well fast forward ten years later, if we were under
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: that format, guess what, The SEC just broke the record
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: for most teams ever in the Insult Men's Basketball Tournament.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: No one thought that was possible ten years ago. So
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: if they decided to do a contract much like the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: college football playoff this year, can you imagine with the
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: outroar we'd be having right now? Football basketball are different.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: I understand that, But if you were to do this
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: AQ scenario, you're going to have conferences go absolutely down
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: the tubes at times year year, three, year seven, something
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: like that, and you're going to go this league deserves
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: maybe one or two teams in. They definitely don't deserve four,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: and their number eight team definitely doesn't deserve a chance
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: by just winning one game in a play in game
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: to get in. So I very much understand that argument
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: that we're hearing across college football right now.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Do you think that conference championship games are short lived
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: now because they need that spot that weekend?
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: It depends on who you talk to. The SEC doesn't
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: want the championship game to go away. The SEC championship game,
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: I think the other conferences would maybe be okay with
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: it going away and just going by the regular season
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: standings and say, you know, Clemson finished No. One in
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: the ACC, so you're your champion, and then the number
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: one and number two teams in the standings sit at home,
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: and then you do two play in games. I don't
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: really know what the answer is going to be there,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: I pers but personally, I don't want to see conference
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: championship games go away. I just don't. I think they're exciting.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: You don't quite ever know what's going to happen. It
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: has changed the playoff field. In fact, on championship weekend,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: I can remember Michigan State pullowing an upset in the
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Big Ten championship to pave the way for Auburn and
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: the SEC to get in and back in twenty fourteen.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: We just can't. I don't think you can get rid
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: of those championship games.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: One other question that you're not going to have the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: answer to because nobody does. But I've seen you tweet
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: about it, and I have had thoughts as well as
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the SEC says, hey, we're gonna have nine games in conference,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but every team's going to play three specific same teams
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: every year, and they said they laid out what they
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: were basing it on, like geography, I think was a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: bit rivalries, and then also they wanted it to be fair,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like balance, and who knows what balance means? The same
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: thing you just talked about with putting teams into a tournament.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: That's what balance is, because you don't know who's going
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to be great in five years or who's not.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: But when do we know? And then I don't know.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just so selfish and thinking about Arkansas that we're
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: going to get every absolute worst team we could possibly get.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Somehow We're going to play teams Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State not.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Even in the SEC. Like when are we going to know?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And then what do you I don't know, who do
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you think Arkansas plays?
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: I think that by November, I'm just guesstimating based off
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: things I've heard. Probably even build mid season, they're gonna
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: have a good idea of what the three permanent rivals
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: are going to be. I don't know if the see
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: we'll just go ahead announce that, but it will be
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: based off some formula rolling winning average, whether it's for
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: the past five years, the past ten years previously when
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: they're discussing going to nine games. A few years back,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: it was gonna be a ten year rolling average. Who
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: should Arkansas play? I mean, obviously Texas you got to
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: put on there. You've got to probably keep one of
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: the quote unquote trophy games, which is Missouri and LSU.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: I would be inclined to believe that it'll end up
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: being Miszou because LSU is going to want to have
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: a more of a permanent rivalry game against obviously Old
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: miss with a Magnolia ball, and then also Texas A
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: and M, which has been a big ratings grab for
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: the SEC here of late. And who that third opponent
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: would be for Arkansas depends on who you kind of
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: really talk to, but it probably might end up being
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Old miss You know, we'll see. But what they try
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: to do is if you have a big rivalry game
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: and they're a top tier team, they try to give
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: you a team in the middle and then team near
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: the bottom. They try to make it all average out
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: to where your average schedule strength judged by those sixteen
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: team ranking is about number eight. Right some programs, I'm
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: not gonna be able to have that satisfaction because like Texas,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: I mean their three rivals are Arkansas, Texas and Texas,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: A and M and you know, excuse me, and Texas
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: is oh you excuse me? You know O you and
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: A and M is always probably gonna be in the
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: top half of the conference. So that makes it difficult
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: for them. Alabama for that matter, heck, Georgia, Georgia's permanent
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: rivals being Florida and Auburn. I've had some of Auburn
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: fans going, we want their three permanent rivals to be
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: what it used to be back in the early nineties,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: which was Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. But goodness gracious, that's
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: supremely difficult, just based off of what you are accustomed
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: to seeing with them. But the good news is, I
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: don't think the three permanent rivalry thing is a big
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: deal because you're gonna have six other teams on the
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: schedule every year, and you're gonna play every team in
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: the in the conference. Based off of that, like every
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: every two four years in a four year old in average,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: you're gonna play every team in the SEC. So you're
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: just gonna have some seasons they're gonna be more difficult
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: than others, and you're gonna have some that are that
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: are easier, and it's not necessarily because of those three
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: permanent rivals. It can depend on how those teams rotate
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: on the six and six.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I have a worst case scenario that Tennessee gets Kentucky
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and Vanderbilt, both, which they probably should.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: That sucks. They shouldn't get those two teams. Nobody should
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: get those two teams together.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: I don't think they'll get Kentucky. I think they'll get
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Vandy just because of the quote unquote in state stuff.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: But I don't think they'll get Kentucky. I think Kentucky's
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: gonna get matched up a lot potentially with the three
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: just base offers. Also on previous scheduling things South Carolina
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Mississippi State, for example, because Kentucky does not have a
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: rival in the SEC, their only rival out of the
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: courses in the ACC and Louisville. I don't think there's
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: going to be a schedule where you look at and go,
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, their three rivals are so easy. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: think it's gona the opposite. You're gonna look at two
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: or three teams go wow, those are supremely difficult, whereas
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: everybody else is going to be pretty comparable.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: All right, final question, my assumption is, and you may
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: not have, but my assumption is you watched any given
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Saturday or on Netflix the SEC show.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: No, you did it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: So here's what I thought.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I thought, Either you're like me where I avoid all
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: music when I'm not working in music, like I avoid
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: all music. And I didn't watch it at all for
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: weeks because I didn't want to like teams I.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Don't like like mine was all.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to watch a coach or a team
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: or a fan base I can't stand and find myself
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: pulling for them. And I decided I wasn't gonna watch it,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be involved in it. My father in law,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: massive ou fan, was over and we would get one
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: on a vacation to like East Tennessee, and we're like, well,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: what do we do?
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And we turned it on.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: It was great.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't plan to watch it. Yeah, I loved it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to love it. I wanted to not
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: like it and not watch it. After the first episode,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I came away, since you this is not your opinion.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I came on liking Brian Kelly way less than I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: already liked him, and I didn't like him much to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: begin with. Have you spend any time around him?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And is he just cold?
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: He's cold. He is a cold guy. It is what
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: it is. Everybody's different, but he's definitely a cold guy.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: I don't watched the documentary, but he's just he tries
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: to turn it on and even then it's like trying
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: to start a start an old car in the winter,
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: cold in the morning. It's just this chuck. You're like, dude,
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: that's not you. But that's good to hear. It's good.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: I just I've been one. I'm so busy, I say,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: I'm so abu I can't watch it. I'm actually watching
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys one right now on Netflix. I'm really
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: enjoying that. And I just I didn't want to do
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: the SEC one because I thought I wasn't it produced
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: by the SEC. So like whenever I see someone that
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: like they have a big stake in it and they're
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: like they can edit things in and are out or whatever,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: So I'm always hesitant to look into that stuff, especially
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: like because all these schools have these amazing like in
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: house video productions. Now they do their own documentaries, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: I don't watch them all because they're they're gonna cut
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: stuff out that might be controversial, but I guess the
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: sec one they leave some stuff in they do.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you who I would like to play for.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: By the way, I wish I could just play, like
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I alwish I was good enough to play.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: But by watching this, who I want to play for.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Number one is freaking Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. Like if
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you put a wall up and he goes go, I'm
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: running through it. And I already felt like I really
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: liked him anyway, because I got a chance to know
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: him when I was touring. He came out and did
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: a show with me, Like I like him as a person,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: but watching him and his interactions and how he works
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: with that team, his vein pops out in his head
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: like that dude is intense.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I remember I was at a coaches convention. He
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: was giving a big speech in front of all the coaches,
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: and he had a slide show up and he was
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: showing pictures of a certain NFL team that used their
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: facilities at Vanderbilt during the playoffs to practice, and they
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: pretty much wrecked Vanderbilt's locker room. Didn't clean up after
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: themselves or whatever, and he showed the pictures of it
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: and what the way Clark Lee reacted to it and
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: telling the players about how he goes see this, they
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: don't even respect you, and no one respects you. No
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: one respects Vanderbilt. You know what we you going to
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: do about it? And obviously I'm surmising and putting everything
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: together there, but the way he put it across showing
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: that picture is phenomenal. I mean, this guy is the
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: ultimate I want to say motivated. He's also the ultimate
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: like tactician and building things. He's a type of guy
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: like if I had a new company and he met
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: handling millions of dollars and everything. He's someone that I
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: would not be reluctant to hire to lead that.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was awesome.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I think my favorite coach, just like as a person
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: is probably Shane Beemer because he's aught again. Have been
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: able to spend some time with him, been very fortunate.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I love him as a dude and then watch him him.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Shane Biemer.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's authentic. I'm exactly exactly the same way. I've
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: spent a couple of days around him. I went down
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: and over there in Colombia and then spent an entire
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: day with him, followed him everywhere. I was standing outside
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: the bathroom even I was following him waiting for him
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: to come out. I mean, he's fantastic. And then you
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: know the stories you hear from him about growing up
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: around his dad and wanting to be a coach because
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: his father. And then you see him on the field
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: during games he's got his son with him just so
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: he makes sure his son can enjoy the big moments
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: with him, just like he did with his dad. I mean,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: it's all genuine. He's not like trying to get on
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: camera or anything. The guy when the camera's off, he'll
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: sit there and talk to you forever. It doesn't matter
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: who you are. I saw him doing it at a
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: practice once, talking to someone that was just they're visiting
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: with some family member, asking about on what they do.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, there are a lot of people like that
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: in this world, but not a lot of them that
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: are you know, head coaches or people that have fifty
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: thousand people tugging them different ways every day.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: And then the last one that I have interest in
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: now and then we can wrap this is Jeff Leby
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Atsissippi State, which I didn't know much about him other
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: than my family's from Oklahoma. He went to Oklahoma, came
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma and was a coordinator before also has
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: bounced around a bit and his growth, but went to
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Like, I like the dude from watching this,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: but I don't know enough about him. What are your
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: thoughts on him?
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: I don't know anything about him either, Yeah, I don't.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I haven't spent any time around him. He was at
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Ou for not very long. Actually, he's more or less
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: and he's from that Art Brill's tree with Kendall Briles
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: is where at Baylor. The first I ever heard his
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: name come up was actually with some type of actually
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: some sideline scandal. He was at someone else's game on
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: the sideline and they're like, you can't be here, are
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: you scouting? It's the rules. It was almost like a
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: mini Michigan thing or whatever. And he got a little
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: hot water over that. You know, that Brill Circle, especially
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: just with coaching, just coaching, like their offense and the
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: raid they do things like no one like there's like
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: maybe eight people on earth who actually know what that
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: playbook looks like because it keeps such a tight circle,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Like you don't see them at coaching clinics, going here's
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: my playbook, guys, here's some good things that we're on.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Here's some ideas. They don't do that. They're very secretive
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: about that stuff, and I don't know. Maybe that's why
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I haven't really got to know him. But he's only
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: been there for a year and a half.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So we'll see, all right, Brandon Marcelo follow him on
• 37:52
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• 37:57
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• 37:58
  Speaker 1: now that you're a superstar. It's like, can we get
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Brandon to come on the show? So we knew you
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: in we knew you in Brandon.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Well, no, I appreciate, Bobby, I'm not a superstar. Just
• 38:08
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• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, you're great at it. There is Brandon Marcelo. Brandon,
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  Speaker 1: Have this list of the top ten hardest positions in sports. Okay,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: so they factor in all sports major sports, football, baseball, basketball, soccer, hockey, golf.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I guess golf doesn't have positions.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: No, you're just a player.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what I have here is the top ten
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: hardest positions in sports. Kevin and Eddie, we'll take turns,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and the higher up the list, and more points you get. Okay, Kevin,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: quarterback quarterback comes in. So here's what we'll do. The
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: person with the least amount of points wins. It'll be
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: like golf.
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: Because number one gets the lowest money points.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Right, I got it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you say?
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: Quarterback?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Quarterback comes in at number six, So Kevin with six points?
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna go goalie.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Goalie in soccer at number three, good one, Eddie with
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: three points, okay, Kevin, corner.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: Back tough position, Yes, it is.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: It is tough. Hard's the hardest I know, because you're
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: having a judge and guess what another supreme athletes.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Doing in front of you, and you're kind of running backwards.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: He's got the advantage.
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: It's especially these days and the rules and stuff.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: And also when people are like, oh, you play cornerback
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and somebody else here's it and thinks you're a quarterback
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: and to be like, no corner it's also like a
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: slight Yeah, cornerback at number five, tough list. So we
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: have goalkeeper, socker quarterback in cornerback five and six. Aie.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with the picture in baseball.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Picture makes the list. Picture comes in at number eight,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: so it's even right now. Eleven to Eleven's go.
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: Hey, now I'm gonna say goalie in hockey number two.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: Wow, the job big one.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Five still up on the board, Eddie.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with the big man position in basketball,
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: the center. It's a lot to cover that paint. Man,
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: It's tough.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Bobby's you know, you look left.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: You look right. Oh no, I I get the rebound.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Didn't make the didn't make the list. So that's one strike.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: H three xes though you lose, Kevin over to you.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go catcher baseball, catcher number one. Maybe that's so.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Hard about catcher, Dude, you got to call the game.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: You gotta always be.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: They got it down, they got little ear things. Now, little.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Kevin, I don't know that you can be beat ye
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: at this point, maybe anybody you have. So we have
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: catcher at one the hardest positions in sports, the hockey
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: goalie at two, the goalkeeper in soccer at three, cornerback
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: at five, quarterback at six, pitcher at eight, first baseman.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: That's the easiest position in the end, coming at the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: best hitter who can't really play in film. Okay, correct,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: two strikes, Kevin. I'm gonna go point guard number nine.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Point right, there you go. It's the easiest, Eddie. One more, Oh,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I got it. Go ahead.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: When I said center, I meant the center in football.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: God's brutal, dude. You start looking down and then you
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: gotta look up.
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: Bro.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: It's a good one, actually, though incorrect, Eddie, you've been eliminated.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: There are one, two, three things left. Kevin, you've already
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: won the game. But let's se how when you can
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: get into the three left? You haven't missed anything. So catcher, goalie, goalie,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: corner of quarterback, pitcher, point guard. I don't really know
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: any somebody said picture.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I said picture, Yeah.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Easy, buddy, one of the two you got?
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take a shot here in soccer
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: and just say.
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: Midfielder, what's so hard about that?
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: I don't even know. I just know it's position.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: They do not run NonStop, NonStop.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: No, it didn't make it okay. You should have two
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: strikes to play with.
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: Centerfielder.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: No, I think I know it. If you're out, if
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: he's not out, he's got one. More so the Brandon,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: The hardest one is four. There's four, seven and ten left.
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: Let's keep baseball here. Let's say third baseman.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: No, it's gonna go around the diamond.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, didn't you did win though graduation?
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: I think I lost.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: It felt like a win.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: You only get two, That's what I'm saying. Like it
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: wasn't really much of a match, Brandon, What.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think I was gonna say? Third baseman? No, shortstop, okay,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: short stop, short stopper, third basement, No, you can't do
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: or or.
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: No, the same position basically somewhere in the middlefield or something.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, you have two left, you have seven and ten?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Uh ten is probably not something I would have ever
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: guessed in a million years. It is from hockey, though,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: oh the enforcer, the defender, and I don't know that
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I would have ever even guessed that was a position,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: because I know we have skaters, we have stickers, golders,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: that's it, and fighters.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: Four positions pretty much.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not a big hockey guy. There's one position left.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: It's number seven one one position in sports. It's a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: football position.
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: Anybody guess safety, kicker.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Anything, mister Brandon, defensive end all wrong, or even the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: kickers all wrong, even the kicker, you can't believe it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: High pressure position, running back mm hmmy the punter.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Now, you can all take turns till somebody gets it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Left tackle correct, That's that's what I meant.
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: Why Why is that harder than the right tackle?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: You gotta protect the quarterbacks blind side.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: Maybe he's a if he's a lefty, no, what if if?
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: It's okay, right tackle, But generally speaking, you got Dylan
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: Gabriel back there.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's why that position is so important.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: I learned something today. What did you learn that that
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: the right tackle is very important.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: There's this whole article about what happens to your body
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: if you don't go to sleep, which I find fascinating
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: because I have this unhealthy relationship with sleep. And so
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: here we go. This doctor, doctor Michael Gardner, has laid
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: out what can happen to your body after a prolong
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: lack of sleep twenty four hours. I think we've probably
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: all done that. Yeah, as a kid and even occasionally
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: as an adult, either you party or you work, and
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, I can't go to sleep, might as
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: well stay awake twenty four hours. Cognitive impairment and reduced
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: reaction time can set in, similar to having a blood
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: alcohol level of point zero one. So point zero eight
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: is what you get busted for the UIDWI. But a
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: question for you guys. If you go to Vegas and
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: let's say you stay out till two or three four
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and you have a six o'clock flight,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: do you try to get a couple of hours sleep
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: or do you just roll it and Stay up.
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: Kevin, Stay up, especially in Vegas, because because what's the
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: point at that point, Like you have stuff to do?
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: If you're in like some random city somewhere else and
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: you're like, well do I just sit here in the
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: hotel room? I have nothing to do? But in Vegas
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: you can sell the tables, you can go to a club,
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: you can do all kinds of stuff in Vegas to
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: keep you up.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, Eddie, what would you do?
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: Stay up? I've been burned too many times where like
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm just gonna take a two hour nap
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: and I and I missed my flight.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Yep, Oh, I don't think I don't want drink myself.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I've never missed a flight, dude.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: It's it's the worst feeling of like just two hours.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: It's never. You're never. If you are drinking all night
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: and you go to bed at three, you're not just
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: gonna get two hours of sleep. You're gonna get ten.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's no surprise. Then I get a couple
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of hours.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: Sleep because you weren't drinking.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm just like I got a couple hours.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I'm as well get a couple and then I can sleep.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Also on the plane. M hm, So I would always
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: get that couple of hours. If I can get it,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: what do you do? I'd probably stay up. But I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: haven't been to Vegas in a while, so I usually
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: i'd be in bed by nine. Not part of the equation.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, stay up.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: I did this in Toronto once, where I went to
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: bed at three in the morning, had to get up
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: a finer National traveler.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: No, I believe, You'll never believe what I do.
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: Go ahead, And I woke up still like wasted, felt
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: like I didn't even drink or sleep in a minute.
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: And I threw up five times on the plane rightt home.
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: It was the worst flight of my life. So that's
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: also why I probably would stay up.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: You threw up five five times? Is that common? If
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you're throwing up, it's a lot. I thought it was
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: just once if you like throw it.
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: Because I mean, if you're that hungover and you're that sick.
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: It was like my fourth day of drinking straight.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Too, so it all factor that'll do. But you are
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you okay?
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: No?
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: You ever heard of Hair of the Dog?
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so like in many ways, yeah, so.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: Hair of the Dog drinking is just like you know
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: what I feel like terrible, But I'm just gonna keep
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: drinking so I don't have a hangover. Yeah, and you
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: keep doing that, like I been saying four days in
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: a row, dude, that you do that, it bites you
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: in the butt.
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: And then your body just detoss it detoxes itself like
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: it wants to get everything out of you. So just
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: throws it all up for you.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Hmm. Hair of the dog can be used in a
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: bunch of ways, but I feel.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've only used in that drinking. Hey boy, screw it,
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: ha ha.
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what's another way?
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: Actually, I don't know.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Really, it's if anything's happening. Uh, let's see. Let me
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: that's my sister. Oh see what she says, because I've
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: often said use that, which mean just do more of it.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: If you're hurting from not doing it anymore, just do
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: more of it to kind of raise your back, get
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: you back in.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: Okay, you can do that working out then, I guess right.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: So for so well, now for soreness, it's like I'm
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: super sore. Let me get a little hair of the dog,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: get back in and do it. Do some squats, kind
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: of get into a little bit. That's a good example.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I couldn't really think of one after I said, I
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: so that screwed. I would do this secon story anyway.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Thirty six to forty eight hours of no sleep? Anyone
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: ever been that long without sleep? Have you ever done
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: two full days?
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: No?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think I have either. No, never two full days.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Physical and cognitive performance continues to slump. You might even
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: experience micro sleeps, which means you don't mean to fall asleep,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: and you're not physically falling asleep, except there are these
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: brief periods where you don't even realize you're asleep. I
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: think Casey has that right now. Whoa seventy two hours
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Hallucinizations can escalate to extreme paranoia, and long term complications
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: could be on the horizon. Whoa horizon three days of
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: not sleeping you It would be fun to hallucinate if
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: you could somehow snap out of them, meaning, okay, I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: will do this to myself. I'll hallucinate LSD like something
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: like a drug like that which I don't know. Do
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you ever do that while youre in Toronto?
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: N in Toronto?
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Okay? Where it's like that would be interesting. It's fun
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: to try if for some reason you can just like
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: shock yourself and get out of it immediately once to
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: start it did not feel safe, but it feels like
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: those when you hallucinate. You really have no control when
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: you're gonna.
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: Get back no way. Yeah, in that like when sailors
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: say they saw mermaids.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: That's just because they've been out.
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, never they were lost at sea, Yeah, freaking
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: out or in the desert.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the mirage. No, no, ninety six hours or more.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Your memory could start resembling that if someone who has
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Alzheimer's and your perception reality could be distorted into something
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: resembling psychosis. And then I think you just.
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: Die if you were if you were lost in like
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: in the desert. Do you think you would sleep?
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Ever lost?
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: You may not ever get found. You think you're gonna die?
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: Would you sleep?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Probably? Because because I think, are you asking would my
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: body allow me to or what I want to know?
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: Would you want to Yes?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Because I would need to recharge in order to keep going.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: You have a limited time of being able to go
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: until your body needs sleep. And sure I may never
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna need that recharge in order to keep trying.
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd be like it's the best part, Like I'm
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: just gonna sleep, man, They're not gonna find me anyway.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: It's the best part.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna fall asleep.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Is there any other good favorite part about being lost
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: in the desert.
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: I love sleep so much. They would be like, I'm
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: just gonna sleep, like they're not gonna find me anyway.
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: And if I die, I die.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the case. They it'd
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: be hard to sleep if you think you might die. Also,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: in the desert, what may come and get you. There's
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: not a lot of like organic matter out there. You know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: we'll wear wolves.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: Those are real side sidewinder snakes well.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And also if I'm having looten to hallucinations, hallucinations, yeah,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the were wolves. Now, yes, Mike. What was the story
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: about the guy who live streamed and he died? Do
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you ever see that?
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: It was like I can ask my assistant, but he
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: like live streamed so long just stay awake and ended
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: up dying on the live stream. I'm pretty sure unless
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: that's urban legend. Sometimes I've been caught up urban legend.
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: Sure, people talk.
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: I think if the urban legend was correc because Heartlet
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: gave out.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: What's the story of the person who stayed up a
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: long time, as in didn't sleep and he was on
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: a live stream and died.
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so that story actually kind of a cautionary tale
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: that's been teared around a lot. The person you might
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: be thinking of is tied to a sort of internet legend.
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: There have been a few different stories, but probably the
• 53:13
  Speaker 9: most known one is about a guy who tried to
• 53:14
  Speaker 9: break a record for staying awake and was live streaming
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: it and then he ended up passing away from what
• 53:20
  Speaker 9: was essentially sleep deprivation and strain it put on his
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: heart and body. It's a bit of an urban myth
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: in some wheres because there are a few versions of
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: the story floating around, but the core idea is going
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: with how it's sleep for extreme lengths of time, it
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: is really dangerous, and it's one of those stories that
• 53:34
  Speaker 9: kind of circulates as a warning. So it's definitely a
• 53:37
  Speaker 9: bit of a dark tail.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: What do you think or what has been the urban
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: legend on the amount of hours he stayed awake?
• 53:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so the legend usually goes that he stayed awake
• 53:46
  Speaker 9: for something like eleven days straight, so around two hundred
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: and sixty to two hundred and seventy hours, which is
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: kind of the classic number that floats around.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: It's actually a.
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: Number that's kind of based on a real record attempt
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: by someone named Randy Gardner back in the nineteen sixties
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: who actually did a wood for a love is as
• 54:01
  Speaker 9: part of a science experiment. But in the urban legend
• 54:04
  Speaker 9: version it's more dramatic and it ends tragically because he
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: was live streaming and never select and then passed away.
• 54:10
  Speaker 9: But yeah, the number that usually gets thrown around is
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: about eleveed A's what you do is.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: You have a twin nice switching out. You switch them.
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: Out how on the live stream, like I'm gonna go
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: to the restroom real quick.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: You fall down, and then all of a sudden they
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: come out. They come out of the floor.
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: Sorry I swiped.
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: I got twins.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: One's a boy and one's a girl.
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: We'll never know.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Dress them the same. Keep those babies up for days.
• 54:39
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for this week, Eddie, get better, Eddie.
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  Speaker 1: He should be better by it later on this week,
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• 56:29
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• 56:36
  Speaker 1: because that is where the Hyundai plant is make the cars.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna go down shooting content for Hunday.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: But if he's sick, because Amy's been sick for two
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: weeks and she's finally back tomorrow Tuesday. In the show Brandon,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: we have to call you in, call you from the
• 56:52
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• 56:56
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• 56:59
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• 57:00
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• 57:00
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• 57:03
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