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Natalie Smearman- Paranormal Investigations, Big Foot, and Hat Man · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings are going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: I'll take one.
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  Speaker 4: Going to welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. I
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  Speaker 4: got a bunch of us here and we're going to
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  Speaker 4: be talking about paranormal investigations Bigfoot and hat Man or
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  Speaker 4: some stuff like that. But before we get into the guest, uh,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to introduce the other rejects and we got
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  Speaker 4: Brooke from Dark Florida with us. What is going on? Brooke?
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  Speaker 4: How are you.
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  Speaker 3: Hi?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be back,
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  Speaker 2: and especially with this lovely guest who I do know personally.
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  Speaker 2: Her stories tonight are going to be great. So this
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  Speaker 2: is one that you want to make sure you listen
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  Speaker 2: to all the way to the end. But in the meantime,
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  Speaker 2: you can find me on Instagram at dark Foot of
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  Speaker 2: Podcasts and wherever you year podcasts at dark Foot of
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  Speaker 2: Podcasts and Natalie. We'll also be speaking at an event
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  Speaker 2: that I'm going to be speaking at, Charlie's Beyond Belief
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  Speaker 2: Xpo October eighteenth and Fort Myers, Florida. The Occult Rejects
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  Speaker 2: will also be there, so come hang out, get weird
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  Speaker 2: with us. It's going to be a good one definitely
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  Speaker 2: for having me.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, No, thank you, Broke. I appreciate it, and
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  Speaker 4: thank you for getting this guest on. That's what's up?
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  Speaker 4: And we got Tim joining us. What is going on? Sir?
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  Speaker 4: It's great to have you here.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Nick. Happy to be here. I heard Bigfoot,
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  Speaker 3: so hey, I'm ready for this. Yeah, Tim Constantine. My
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  Speaker 3: show is sixth Sensory Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, and Patreon,
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  Speaker 3: and it's great to be back on the Cult Rejects again.
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  Speaker 3: Hello to all, and I'm ready for this. Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Hell Yeah, thank you sir, appreciate you joining us. And
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  Speaker 4: we got Sarah going on what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: How are you hi?
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  Speaker 3: I'm Sarah.
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  Speaker 5: I am the co host STU Universe Unveiled and public
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  Speaker 5: relations for the Institute for Natural Philosophy Public and I'm
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  Speaker 5: excited to uh learn about some some paranormal stuff today
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  Speaker 5: and looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on again.
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  Speaker 4: Oh of course, no, thank you for joining us with
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  Speaker 4: the public relations. Is that a new one.
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  Speaker 3: I've always been I've always too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like.
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  Speaker 3: Right now too. I literally just realized like what, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Was that first and then and then we started the podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Oh nice.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So did I have a deal with you prior
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  Speaker 6: in the past, because I remember Ricardo. Yeah, Ricardo had
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  Speaker 6: set me up with somebody one time to help worth
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  Speaker 6: work on the website.
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  Speaker 4: I'm wondering if it was I forget sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, and how he got Headless Giant? What's
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  Speaker 4: going on? Heitlas? Are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Everybody?
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  Speaker 7: You can find me on Twitter and on YouTube, also
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  Speaker 7: on Instagram. If you have any paranormal stories, I read
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  Speaker 7: them on Saturday or on Thursday nights, so send them
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  Speaker 7: to the Headless Giant at a podcast at gmail dot
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  Speaker 7: com and I will read those for you. And the trialogues.
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  Speaker 7: I fell asleep yesterday, but we will get more trialogues done.
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  Speaker 3: I know you.
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  Speaker 7: Guys like it, so we'll get that done. It's coming soon.
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  Speaker 7: So that's where you can find me. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, thank you. And if you send it any
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  Speaker 4: you sending any stories, put in your address, I'll send
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  Speaker 4: you some free stickers. Make it worth it? All? Right,
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  Speaker 4: there we go, and we got tyrone. What is going on? So?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up everybody? Hey, I'm glad to be here.
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  Speaker 8: I love these stories paranormal cryptids, you know, especially Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 8: I love the story about that, so I'm excited to
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  Speaker 8: get this started. Everything you can find about me is
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  Speaker 8: on my website rebirthattheword dot com, my best selling book
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  Speaker 8: on Amazon, and Journey through the Origins of History can
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  Speaker 8: be found on Amazon.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much. I appreciate it. And finally to
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  Speaker 4: the guests, we have Natalie Schmierman from Relic Films. What
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  Speaker 4: is going on, Onalie? How are you paye?
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  Speaker 1: How y'all doing? I am so happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. As with everybody else, you can
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  Speaker 1: find me on Facebook and Instagram under Natalie Smearman, and
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  Speaker 1: you can also I work with Relic Films. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to be launching a talk show on Channel twelve TV
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  Speaker 1: network called Beyond the Ordinary, and I co host a
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  Speaker 1: podcast called Paranormal among Us every Tuesday night. And I
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  Speaker 1: also will be filming with Enigma nine one one. So
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be doing a lot of paranormal, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Bigfoot, a lot of dog Man. We've got
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of I'm hoping to catch a rake, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 4: Nice, Nice, We need broadcasting scenes here for this rake
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  Speaker 4: very upset, but uh, all right, so all right we
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  Speaker 4: guide you into I guess you bring is up to
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  Speaker 4: what got you into even paranormal investigations? Bigfoot and happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So my paranormal experience started very very early,
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  Speaker 1: around the age of three. Started with at my grandparents' house.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I saw my great grandmother who had passed
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  Speaker 1: away many many years prior to me even being born.
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  Speaker 1: I ran to her, and nobody else saw her but me.
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  Speaker 1: Throughout the years, I always had, you know, feelings of
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  Speaker 1: when spirit was around me, whether it be a good
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  Speaker 1: spirit or a negative spirit. I've always had that in
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  Speaker 1: or around me, hearing things, certain voices to kind of
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  Speaker 1: steer me away from things like don't do that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And so that was my upbringing. And then when I
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  Speaker 1: was about thirteen years old, I was going through a
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  Speaker 1: really really hard time and I was laying in bed.
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  Speaker 1: It was the middle of the night, and and I
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  Speaker 1: woke up and my great grandmother was standing at the
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  Speaker 1: foot of my bed, all a white figure, beautiful white figure, glowing.
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  Speaker 1: You saw the little bun on the top of her
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  Speaker 1: head and her little house dress and just cute as
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  Speaker 1: a button. And she was looking at me, just has
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  Speaker 1: a smile and just like it's okay, You're not alone,
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  Speaker 1: And that was phenomenal. I knew at that point that
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  Speaker 1: there was something far, far beyond what I had ever
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  Speaker 1: known to be in the physical world. There was a
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  Speaker 1: spiritual world beyond that, which was really cool. And throughout
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  Speaker 1: my life, I've had various experiences with the paranormal, whether
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  Speaker 1: it be spirits manifesting themselves, spirits touching me hat Man,
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  Speaker 1: which was not a good experience. I have had dealings
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  Speaker 1: with shadow people, again not a good experience, but I've
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  Speaker 1: learned from those experiences. So and then that all got
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  Speaker 1: me into learning more about the cryptid world, because when
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  Speaker 1: you're in the paranormal field long enough, you realize that
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  Speaker 1: there is a bridge from the paranormal over to the
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  Speaker 1: cryptied world. And so then you've got you know, your orbs,
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  Speaker 1: your your Bigfoot, your dog man, You've got the rakes,
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  Speaker 1: and then you've got beyond that, the aliens. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm dabbling into everything because it's very much all connected.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think it is. Actually I think it's
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  Speaker 4: all connected to your cult sciences as well.
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  Speaker 1: So it's incredible and there are so many levels to
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  Speaker 1: it and layers and people, you know, like us going
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  Speaker 1: out and investigating and bringing forth truth and information to
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  Speaker 1: folks via a podcast or a talk show or a
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  Speaker 1: conference or just talking amongst one another and just really
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  Speaker 1: supporting one another. So it's such a cool, cool vibe.
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  Speaker 4: Nice. Sorry, I'm laughing at that, And we kind of
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  Speaker 4: just glanced over the whole rake thing. I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: get back to the rake, I promise, but I did
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  Speaker 4: want to ask you, and I just be honest because
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  Speaker 4: it's of my own ignorance. It was mentioned a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: I think recently on the show What's the deal of
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  Speaker 4: the story with hat Man? I actually don't know much
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  Speaker 4: about this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll tell you my story and then i'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you beyond that what I have learned. So, my son,
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  Speaker 1: who again very much like me, started seeing spirits at
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  Speaker 1: a very young age. His mind have always been mostly good,
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  Speaker 1: some negativity, but nothing ever that lasted well. He came
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  Speaker 1: to me when he was about eight nine years old, going, Mom,
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  Speaker 1: there's a dark figure in my room watching me. He
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  Speaker 1: has this hat on, this dark hat, and he has
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  Speaker 1: no face, and I'm going And I had known from
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  Speaker 1: studying what that was, and I'm like, okay, we have
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of this. So I started to sage
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  Speaker 1: bless the house, like you're not welcome here. And every
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  Speaker 1: time I did that, he stayed away for a few
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  Speaker 1: months and he would always come back and he would
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  Speaker 1: watch my son. My son was the only one that
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  Speaker 1: could see him, and he wouldn't come around my daughter.
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  Speaker 1: He wouldn't come around me. It was only around my
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  Speaker 1: son when when either I was downstairs, as soon as
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  Speaker 1: I would walk upstairs, he would disappear. So my son
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  Speaker 1: was like, mom, he came back around again. He's watching me.
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  Speaker 1: He's watching me. He was in the bathroom, he was
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  Speaker 1: in my bedroom, he was out, you know, following me.
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  Speaker 1: So every time we went through this like sage Palo Santo, pray,
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  Speaker 1: anointing the house, just you're not welcome here. But I
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  Speaker 1: was always like, just stern, but this is how it is. Well,
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  Speaker 1: then one day my son came home from school going, mom,
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  Speaker 1: the hat man followed me to school and was at
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  Speaker 1: school watching me and from the hallway.
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  Speaker 4: Now I that was.
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  Speaker 1: Like the straw. That was it. I said, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: So that weekend they my kids went to go with
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  Speaker 1: their dad and I had the house alone, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: we're done. I saged the house, I blessed the house,
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  Speaker 1: and I went upstairs and in his room, I had
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  Speaker 1: the biggest come to Jesus. I said, you ever show
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  Speaker 1: your face in this house to my son or anybody
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  Speaker 1: in my family, I will drag you to the depths
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  Speaker 1: of hell for eternity, and you will fear me for eternity.
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  Speaker 1: And he never came back.
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  Speaker 4: Oh shit.
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  Speaker 1: I had to lay down the law. I had to
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  Speaker 1: put it on the line, and I had to just
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  Speaker 1: confront him and saying enough and so just setting little
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  Speaker 1: boundaries was not enough, or just asking him to leave,
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  Speaker 1: because he kept coming back, and he kept pressing the
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  Speaker 1: issue and just going a little bit further and a
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  Speaker 1: little bit further. Well, what I have learned is that
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  Speaker 1: the hat Man and shadow figures are very much the same.
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  Speaker 5: Thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very much the same. They are not good energy.
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  Speaker 1: They're very bad, bad energy. I'm not saying they are
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  Speaker 1: demonic by any means. I don't believe that they are demonic.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it is a negative, toxic energy that is
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  Speaker 1: earth bound and will attach to certain humans uh people
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  Speaker 1: in the physical world to draw on their energy. And
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  Speaker 1: you're absolutely right hat Man lives in the woods too,
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  Speaker 1: because hat Man can be found anywhere, just like a
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  Speaker 1: shadow figure can be found anywhere where a negative entity
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  Speaker 1: will reside.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think hat Man trolls Bigfoot?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure of it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure the woods. You wonder if they fuck with
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  Speaker 4: each other? Do they know about each other?
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm sure that they do because you
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  Speaker 1: when you're out in the woods and you have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of paranormal and cryptid activity, that is pure energy
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  Speaker 1: and what we have seen, and there are multiple multiple
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  Speaker 1: reports out there that you see an orb and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden a bigfoot appears, or a bigfoot
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  Speaker 1: will walk and then all of a sudden the trails end.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they'll there have been reports they go and
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  Speaker 1: they form into an orb a ball of energy. They're
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  Speaker 1: able to transform themselves into energy and manifest themselves into
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  Speaker 1: this energy and can go through a portal or go
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  Speaker 1: into the next realm and travel beyond this. So that
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  Speaker 1: is pure energy. And then you hear of an I
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  Speaker 1: have personally witnessed on multiple occasions being out in the
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  Speaker 1: woods in a very very heavily energized area where there
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  Speaker 1: are orbs, or you're hearing whoops and knocks of a
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  Speaker 1: creature that is cryptic, and so this cryptid is putting
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  Speaker 1: off a lot of energy, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you look at your battery and it was at one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent and it goes to zero. And the orbs
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  Speaker 1: are so cool. I mean, we have witnessed those so
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  Speaker 1: many times around areas where Bigfoot has been spotted or
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  Speaker 1: dog Man has been bought it and we'll go in
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  Speaker 1: and listen and then all of a sudden, these orbs
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  Speaker 1: pop up. And the last time I experienced that, which
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  Speaker 1: was so cool, we were out every day for a
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  Speaker 1: full week, out investigating. Every single day we saw orbs
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  Speaker 1: that was unheard of, none of us have ever experienced it,
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  Speaker 1: and it was such. We had the same experience where
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  Speaker 1: we would go out middle of the night, we'd get
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  Speaker 1: this feeling of being watched, we get this feeling of dread,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, we would just sit
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  Speaker 1: still and nothing would show up on the therm. Whether
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  Speaker 1: it's like a figure that all of a sudden we
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  Speaker 1: would see on the path on each side of us
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  Speaker 1: were like reddish orange orbs, and then in front of
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  Speaker 1: us and above were like these whitish black, blue orbs
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  Speaker 1: and green orbs, and they would just appear and you
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  Speaker 1: could tell that they were looking at us and just
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  Speaker 1: kind of observing. And then the red and orange ones
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  Speaker 1: would just stay off in the distance almost like we're
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  Speaker 1: watching out. We're like the lookout, so to speak. And
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  Speaker 1: these other orbs were just observing, like what are you.
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  Speaker 4: That's interesting? Evenly those colors stuck in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just you know, they were and there
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  Speaker 1: was a group of us. We're all seeing the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: we're all documenting the same thing, and it was just
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  Speaker 1: like this is crazy. Well then after a couple days
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  Speaker 1: of this, we're like, let's start doing some experiments. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if we're going to keep seeing these, let's let's see
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  Speaker 1: what what triggers them. So we found out that if
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  Speaker 1: we stay quiet, they go away. If we're laughing and
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  Speaker 1: having fun and singing and dancing and being positive and
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  Speaker 1: projecting this positive energy, here they come in. They're coming
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  Speaker 1: in closer. One came as close as about four feet
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  Speaker 1: right in front of me.
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  Speaker 4: It's just watched certain chances to actually make it start
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  Speaker 4: to come, like like certain mantras maybe over and over
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  Speaker 4: again would actually make them start to appear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was just really I think they understand that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, our energy, knowing that we weren't a threat,
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  Speaker 1: we were there to observe, We were being very, very respectful.
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  Speaker 1: One time, during one of the seeing these orbs, we
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  Speaker 1: started hearing disembodied voices behind us in the woods. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we couldn't understand it, but it was it was a
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  Speaker 1: male voice behind us and there was nothing there. So
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  Speaker 1: that was really cool too.
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  Speaker 2: Well. I'm a firm believer, like you said, that these
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  Speaker 2: things are kind of connected, and it's so interesting how
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  Speaker 2: these worlds really do blend together. But with your hat
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  Speaker 2: man An experience and with the shadow people, I think
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  Speaker 2: you took the right approach because so often in these
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  Speaker 2: situations they can kind of go one of three ways
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  Speaker 2: sort of. And I think you have to take dominion
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  Speaker 2: over your home, you have to take authority over your
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  Speaker 2: property and over your family. And I think to Sarah's point,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if we talked to I think it
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  Speaker 2: was pre show. She said she just went on a
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  Speaker 2: paranormal investigation and someone asked her she got scared, and
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  Speaker 2: she said no, And that's actually really good because when
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  Speaker 2: you get scared and you have fear, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: actually kind of feeds them and makes them stronger. So
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  Speaker 2: I think your approach to it is just totally badass
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  Speaker 2: that you just want to know that's.
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  Speaker 1: It, You're out of here. I was here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were ready to get down.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you, And you're right. It does.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about your approach. If you're afraid, they know it,
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  Speaker 1: they can feel it. And then with I even had
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  Speaker 1: an experience a nine year stint with a shadow figure
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  Speaker 1: in the house. And you know, I lived in a
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  Speaker 1: very paranormal neighborhood, and ninety percent of the homes in
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  Speaker 1: the neighborhood had activity of some sort, nothing bad, just
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  Speaker 1: something moving or you know, they heard something or there
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  Speaker 1: was a knock, nothing bad. But with my circumstance, we
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  Speaker 1: had that too. But when we moved in, I had
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  Speaker 1: we had my husband and I had just gotten married.
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  Speaker 1: We're divorced now, just gotten married. We had a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of boxes that were in storage. We started unpacking boxes.
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  Speaker 1: I saw a box. I was like, ooh, what's that
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  Speaker 1: opened it up and it looked like a little plastic bracelet.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's adorable. I said, what's this. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he had been in the army for twenty years and
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  Speaker 1: retired green beret, and he goes, oh, that was a
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  Speaker 1: souvenir off my first kill. I'm like what, I'm like what, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you brought this into this house. And his
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  Speaker 1: first kill was in Afghanistan and it was it was
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  Speaker 1: a violent, violent battle, and he brought it, took it
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  Speaker 1: off of the body and brought it to the house.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going so I'm saging, I'm praying. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: here we go again. So a few months went by,
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  Speaker 1: nothing happened. I'm like, okay, we'll be okay. And then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here comes this little shadow figure
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  Speaker 1: peeking around the corners. And he stayed in one whole
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  Speaker 1: area right by the garage where he kept this thing,
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  Speaker 1: this bracelet, and he would he was very small, very small,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and he would just peek around and peek back around,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no. So I realized it was
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: attached to this bracelet. I asked my husband at the time,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, get rid of it, and I said, bury
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it to a stirring and he's like, no, I'm not there,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: You're no. I'm like, and I knew, no matter what
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: was going to happen, he was going to keep that bracelet.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: So I said, I saged, prayed, anointed, and I made
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a whole list of rules because I'm like, here's this
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: entity who died in a violent, violent way, whose bracelet,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: which was something sacred to them, is now being housed
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: in America, being held by the man that killed him.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be there. I don't want him there.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So now we've got to set something up, Like what
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: are we going to do? So I saged, I anointed,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I prayed, I sat down. I said, listen, you don't
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: want to be here. I don't want you here. But
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: here are the rules. I laid down the law and
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I said, you crossed this line. And I did something
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: very similar to that man. I said, I will drag
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you to the depths of hell for eternity, and I
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: said you will die there screaming in He followed those rules.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: He followed those rules. He would peek around. I'm like,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you can peak. I don't care peak, just don't don't.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Don't cross this line. And he never did until the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: marriage started going into the toilet and once the dynamic,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the energy between me and my husband at the time,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: went negative, all of a sudden, he started getting a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: little taller. And now, all of a sudden, he went
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: from a little shadow figure to a shadow figure about
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: my height. And then one night I woke up in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the middle of the night and it was standing over
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: me watching me sleep. Oh fuck, I mean, I you
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: can imagine. I lost it. I was screaming, I mean
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: foul language. I mean, it was bad. It was so bad.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And so my daughter came running and I'm like, and
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell her at the time what
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: was going on. She's a young teenager, and she's like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: are you okay?
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: Are you okay?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm like just a dream, just a dream,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm white as a ghost sweating. Next day,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, you clearly crossed the line. I'm now
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: it's on. So it hid from me for a good
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: couple months. It was like I crossed the line. I'm
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: hide and I'm not going to do anything. And it
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: didn't do a thing. Then the marriage went really, really bad.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I moved upstairs. It never went upstairs. It stayed downstairs
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: in the master bedroom with my soon to be ex
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: husband who was very negative and very angry. So my
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: son one night went to the bathroom downstairs near the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: master bedroom. My son came out of the bathroom, looked
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: in the master bedroom and this figure started growling at him,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and he came upstairs. He's like, mom, he goes, there's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: something down there. It's starting to growl at me. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: was like, there, we go across the line again, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: then we had right after that, we left and we
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: went on my kids and I went on vacation for
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: a week, came back during the day, my kids walked in,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: went upstairs. I walked in the house. The shadow figure
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: was standing there in broad daylight in the master bedroom,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: way taller than me, And I said, is this how
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you want to start this off? And I bowed up
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: against him and he disappeared. And then right after that,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: within a few days, my ex moved all of his
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: stuff out and he moved out and the shadow figure
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: was gone. So now he's residing somewhere else. I don't
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: know where, but it was gone. After my ex took
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: all that stuff out, the shadow figure were left.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: So you've gotten rid of a couple of these at
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: this point, right and it's like I'm thinking about this
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: concept that I've heard before about like in a nutshell,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: that like we have dominion over this realm humans do
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: if we take action, yeah, if we claim if we
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: claim dominion. But I'm thinking like back to your first
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: story with the hat man, and it's like there seems
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: to be something that they're responding to, right, like like
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: greater Kiya Solomon, like he knew how to contain them
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: and like cage them and use them or banish them,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: right right, what do you think that is?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So I think if you're able to hold over them
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and have this presence, don't be scared. To Sarah's point,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: don't be scared. You cannot be scared. You've got to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: say this. These are the rules, and here's what you're
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: gonna do, and know it and mean it and bow
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: up against them, go up against them, go straight for him,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: don't run, don't cower, don't back down, don't run away,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: go straight at him, and by God, you'll be able
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to control your environment and them and very much if
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you know, like for instance, this bracelet, my husband at
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the time hid it from me. I couldn't find it
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: or I would have taken that bracelet and had some
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: sort of ceremony to bury it or do some sort
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: of ritual to release that energy, but I could never
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: find it. If you know, I'm sorry, country, yeah right,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: send it back to Afghanistan's lowerd you know. And so
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you know, if I had that, and to your point,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: if you were able to control it or harness it,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you could know that there is an energy attached to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: an object, and then you can control that object. So
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: then you're able to know, I've got this object, I'm
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: gonna put it an energy around it, I'm gonna do
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: something with it and control it. But very much, I mean,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: knowing I had, I felt sorry for it, to be honest,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: because you know, you die in away fighting, then you're taken.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Your soul was taken with this, this this relic that
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: is precious to you in a religious sense, and now
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you're being housed in a country, a foreign country that
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you're not familiar with, being held by somebody that killed you. Yeah,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that's got to be.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: It was attached to the bracelet, right, absolutely, Like the
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: bracelet was like a portal in its own mind. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: like houses can do that too, They can take on
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: much the the they can act like a portal, right,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: and you have oh yeah, And that's what they say
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: about like some of these bigger, well more well known rituals,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: like like Crowley and like Locknow and all that. It's
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: like he started something that he didn't finish. Or is
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: it more so that he just didn't close the portal
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: or banish the spirit?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: You know, that's a good question, and I am very
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: much there are portals out there, there's energies that open
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the portal and close the portals. And in my belief,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and this is just a belief, is not fact, I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: believe if you're going to open something, you better close
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: it because if you don't close it, you don't know
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: what you're opening yourself up to. It's very much like
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: a Oigi board. If you don't know how to handle
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a Wigi board correctly and properly and know what you're doing,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: don't use it. Because you're opening up a portal for anything.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It's like opening up your front door and just saying
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: come on in and not knowing who you're letting in
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: or what you're letting in. So you really need to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: be mindful about the energy that you put out and
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: what you're doing to open that up and inviting in.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I agree with that, and I mean, like, that's crazy
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: that you said Wuigi board, because as you're telling your
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: stories today, I'm thinking about some of mine. And I
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: won't regal everybody with that. But we I lived in
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: a haunted house and there was shadow figures there, right.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: But what it was was when we moved in that house,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the previous owners took everything out except one thing. They
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: left a Wigi board in the closet upstairs and I
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: found it and my mom got rid of it. But
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: we had shadow people and it's like who opened the
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: portal before we moved in?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Right, right right, and you've got to close it? Did
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you live at a unduring house?
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: It's what it's. It's the same stuff that Natalie is
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: talking about. Shadow shadow people who get who either grow
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and were diminished in size depending on how scared you are.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Essentially, yeah, and the negativity anger will feed them as well, anger, hostility,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: toxic behavior, it feeds, it feeds them. And the more
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: positive you are, the more you go around and project
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: positive energy, the more positive energy is going to be
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: projected out in your surroundings, and the less likely these
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: shadow figures are hat men or negative entities will gain
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that energy. So I try to, you know, sage once
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: a week and really put out that positive energy to
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: ensure that within our walls is a lot of positive
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: things and no negative energy is allowed in.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what Krypton Interest was talking about on
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: the show, because I was on that show and she
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: was saying, like out in the field, and she she
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: like repeated this a couple of times. She made sure
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: to like drive this point, like in the field, this
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: phenomenon feeds off of your energy. Oh yeah, and that's
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: how you get results. Like if you go in there
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: with high vibes, essentially you're going to make some sort
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: of contact.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: H That's why we meditate. So when I'm out there
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: with Relic and we go filming, we meditate before we
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: ever go out. We meditate, We pray, we get ourselves
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: into a higher vibration, and then we enter wherever that
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: we're going in the best possible mindset, mind, body, and spirit,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: so whatever, and we go out there with a very
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: open mind. We don't go out there going I'm going
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to hunt this. No, we go out there whatever is there,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: we'd love to see you, We would love to experience you,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: whatever you may be, and we go out there and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: then we see some crazy stuff. I mean, we went
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: out with way way out in the middle of the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: forest and we were all sitting there and we didn't
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: have a fire, no flashlights. We just wanted to see
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: what happens. And we're sitting there and then all of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a sudden, the metal knocks start, metal on metal, bam,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: bam bam. And then we're like, okay, here we go.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And then a couple of minutes later, the metal knocks
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: get closer and it's like bam bam. We're like, okay,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: we're just going to sit here and act nonchalant. And
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: then right beyond the forest line were two more knocks
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: bam bam, and we're just looking and then the orbs
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: showed up. And then all of a sudden, I don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: know if anybody's familiar with the old flashes of the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: cameras that would blind you, that's what happened in the forest.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Went like light just shot and it blinded us and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it was like whoa. And then the orbs. There were
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: more orbs, and then they would move, they started moving
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: around us, and they then they just disappeared and then
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: we heard something in the distance, like kind of walking,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: but we didn't see anything, nothing on the therm, nothing
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on with our cameras on the night vision. So we're like, okay,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: let's walk back. Well, it was going parallel to us
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: as we're walking, and then we get to an area
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and there's something in the tree line across the way
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that was started growling at us, and so we couldn't
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: see a thing. It was so thick. That tree line
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: was so thick, and we stood there for the longest time.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But a lot of people in that area witness these
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: metal knocks, metal doors slamming. You're in the middle of
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the woods, there's nothing around you, and all of a
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: sudden you hear a metal door slam, and so this
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: happens more often than what you think. I started talking
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to some folks in and around that area. They're like, yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the metal knocks, the metal doors, what is that? And
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: so people seem to think because you start getting orbs
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: or crawlers after this, or you see a cryptid, they
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: feel that those are portals opening and closing. Boom boom.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: So those are the portals opening and closing, and that's
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: how they get around. That's how they go from one
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: place to another. Again, you could see footsteps walking in
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the snow or in the dirt, and then all of
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: a sudden, they stop and they don't go anywhere. Why
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: is that? Well, do they transform into an orb and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: go off? Do they open a portal and go through it?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I've had several people personally witness portals opening up and
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: them seeing another realm beyond this and it was nighttime
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: where they were, and through the door of the portal
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: it was daytime. So these things you just have to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: go out and experience it. And we're going out more
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and more often. We have a ton of stuff lined
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: up in the future. I'm so excited about that. But yeah,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: we're ready to go, and our goal is to make
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: some contact and see a portal and seeing how we
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: can experience those portals.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: While we're on the topic of portals, I know that
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you work really closely with Adam Day these of relic films,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and that could be a great person to talk to someday.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I heard his story of his sort of portal activity.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: He had these beings almost like the Hopkinsville goblins.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Come through and.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: We're attacking, trying to attack him in a camp mate
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: at night. And I really believe from what I've heard
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: from talking to people and the more that I learn,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I do believe when you have these areas of high
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: strangeness with things like a bigfoot orbs, crawlers, rake, whatever
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: you want to call them, I really believe that that
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: means that's indicative of a portal location and then lo
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and behold you'll find a piece of property. And even
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: here in Florida, in North Florida, you have a property
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: which I like to call like the Skinwalker Ranch of
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Florida where they have seen Reke's crawling out of portals
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: there and they have been long history of documented bigfoot
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: sighting and their property, among other really strange things.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: So I really do believe there's a correlation there.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, And there's a lot of areas like North Florida.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: There's also one on a ranch in Texas that has
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: portals and these rakes and cryptids coming out of these portals,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and it's happening a lot, and I think a lot
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: of people right now because they're very well aware of it,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and no, let's go out, let's investigate, let's see what
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: we can find where most people if you notice if
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you go anywhere people are on their phones, they're only
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: looking at their phone. They're not looking up at the sky.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Is there something moving up there? Is there something in
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the tree line. They have earbuds in, they're not going
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to be hearing what's in the distance. So you have
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to be really mindful of you know, there are things
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: out there. Put your phone down, take your earbuds out,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and just go out there and just be listen in
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: sit in the in the wilderness, and just absorb everything
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: around you, and then you're going to cease and witness
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and experience some really cool stuff.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: So, like when I first started podcasting, I'll be honest
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: with everybody, I had a pretty open mind. But like
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I thought that Giants was nothing, Portals was nothing. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: didn't think the Smithsonian was up to anything, shysty anything.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Now I do, right, Yeah, And like, but especially with
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: the Portals thing, now that I've looked into it, I'm like, Wow,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: there's something here, and it's like, in my opinion, this
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: is a way that supernatural entities walk between worlds.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: That's absolutely That's where I'm.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: At with it. That's my opinion, right. But I think
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: that this country is like a place where the spirit
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: world at one time was immensely accessible, and I think
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: it still is. It's just that back then they had
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: traditions of how to deal with it properly, and a
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: lot of those traditions have been long us. The Native
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: American's new Black elknow Geronimo, who was said to use portals,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: he knew. But it's good to see like people coming
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: back together getting over their grievances across like the boards,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: like Oh, I'm not just gonna be a bigfoot person.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna I'm gonna dip my toe into the
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: paranormal world and I'm gonna talk to you fo people too,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna check out some of these occult manuscripts
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: to see what they want to say. And we just
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: all all just come together and let's let's figure some
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: stuff out. Yeah, because this was known. This this is
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: stuff that was known how to approach at one time.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: It's you know, you look back centuries and you will
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: see drawings in caves and on rocks from indigenous tribes.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those the.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: First mythologies, the first stories.
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: I was I'm so glad you went down that road
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: because I believe inky do from the Sumerians was the Bigfoot,
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: And I was just waiting for you to go ahead
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: and cross that line that I can talk about it,
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: because he was described as as such. He was a
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: wild man, described as living with among the animals and
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: so on and so forth, and they had to send
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: a female to kind of teach him human ways, just
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: to bring him, you know here into like the city
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: lifelike and stuff like that to civilization.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, you know so.
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: And he had hair as tresses and that can be
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: described as so many different things. So yeah, yeah, you
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: know those pictograss yet they definitely it, does it really?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: And I mean you can go back into history. You
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: can look at the Bible and how many times does
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the Bible talk about giants multiple multiple times? Yeah, And
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: there have been archaeological digs within the United States digging
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: up bones of giants, but we don't talk a lot
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: about that. So it's really, you know, we we need
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to talk more, and we need to come together as
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: a group and support one another and share information because
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: this is all within us. And I mean what Brooke
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: experiences out in the field and what I experience out
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: in the field, and we had talked about this. She
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: may experience something I may experience something very very similar
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: in two completely different areas. We can come together and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: going that's evidence there's something more to that which is
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: really cool.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: No, absolutely, yeah, I agree.
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: That's why I always said, Like on my website that
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: I mentioned earlier, one of the first things I put
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: on there was like, if we all take the puzzle pieces,
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: if we all take our individual puzzle pieces and bring
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: them together, there's no idea of what kind of picture
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: we may see.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: You know, we have to work together to be able
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: to see the bigger picture of it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: And I'm like me personally, I like to go back
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: to the origins of religion and history and mythologies and
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: stuff like that, because they talk about the basic stories
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: of what we're talking about now, and they depict these
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: individuals as as such like and he do had horns,
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: he had bull like legs, but on the upper torso
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: he had like, you know, human arms, and sometimes he
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: had like a human face with horns.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: And sometimes it was just depicted different ways.
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: But that was letting him know that he was not
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: as a human of what we see as of today. Anatomically,
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: you know that we have to go back to where
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: they you know, they had like the head, like different
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: species of humans and stuff, and we don't know what
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: they really looked like. We just can go off of
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: what some minor bone skins and stuff like that. But
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: there is definitely stories out there that there was some
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: kind of bigfoot individual out there that was with the animals.
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: So it's obvious that it's been told for since since
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: the beginning of writing.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: It was in the stories, right, That's what amazes me.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also throughout the whole world we all have
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it, a lot different
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: countries have different versions of bigfoot. They just call it
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: a little something different. And they're a little to be shorter,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: they could be taller, they could be bigger, they could
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: you know, do different things, and it's all related and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: so there's something to this. We can't just dismiss it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: We have to say what more is there to learn
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and to study? And that's why I love you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: forums and groups like this where we can have a
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: voice and we can reach additional people and say, you
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: know what, just because you're old or you're young, or
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: you're a male or a female, or wherever country you
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: live in, go out there and explore, you know, find
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: out what's out there. You know, let us know what
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you see, which is really cool and like even here
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: in Florida, and Brook will tell you there's plenty of
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: activity here in Florida.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I was in Okalla a couple of months ago. It
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: was about one thirty in the morning, and I think
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: it's funny. And Brooke, I'm sure you know exactly where
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: this is. There is an Indian mounds and right across
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the river is a little tiny postage stamp of land
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: owned by the government. Why we don't know because the
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: big range, the military range, is way south of there.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: But if you go to these Indian Mounds and you
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: walk down to the river, you can't cross the river
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: because it's infested with alligators, but you can stand there.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: And as soon as we walk down, you hear two knocks,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: a woop coming from the right, a whoop coming from
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the left, and a scream, and it was just like
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: it was like human alert, human alert, there's humans. Everybody
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: there's humans. Be quiet. And so we stood there for
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the longest time and we knew that they were there.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Nothing was showing up on the therm. Of course, we
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: can't cross because of the alligators and because we would
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: be trespassing. But why was that tiny little postage stamp
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: of land owned by the government and we're not allowed
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: to be on it and we don't know what's on it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's got to be a nesting area,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: some sort of protected area for them.
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: Well, Florida is supposed to be like the third highest
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: Bigfoot sightings.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: It is, And it's interesting that she says that because
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I do research in that area that you're talking about.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Shout out.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: She's in the chat right now, Kathy with Bigfoot World.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: She lives in O'calla, So we do go out there
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: a lot, and we research in the National Forest. And
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: so the mounds that you're talking about, that's one of
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: the few locations that I have gotten a feeling like
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I need to leave here. So I have been there
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: several times, some during the day. My nighttime encounters have
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: been a little bit more not great. There's like an
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: energy that shifts when you come into this area. It's
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: kind of hard to get to if you don't know
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: where it's at, which we kind of like it that
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: way for a reason. And all of a sudden, I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: just kind of get this feeling, and I'm like, man,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be the only one in the
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: car that's like like a chicken doesn't want to get out,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm getting this feeling and like if I get
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: out of the car, at least something really bad is
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: going to happen. Like this really intense dread just came
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: over me. And I finally said something. You know, I'm
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: with friends and I'm just like, I don't think I
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: want to be here tonight, guys, and they're like really,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: because I'm feeling the same way, and I was like really,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And these are people who are not sensitive. A couple
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: of them are not sensitive people, you know, to energies
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: and things, and they're saying, you know, my reader's going off.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: So it was like, okay. We decided to leave, and
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: it was like literally when we crossed back onto the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: main highway, it was like an instant relief wash over us.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: And then what's happened a couple of times I've been there,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: and then I was there during the daytime not long ago,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: and we decided to ride some of the roads around there,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: and we stopped to get out to look at what
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: we thought might have been a possible structure, and something
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: came and hit the car right like hit a car,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: and we were like, what the heck that I get out?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: There's nothing around the car, like no tree, limbs, nothing,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, that's weird. And it's sounded like
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: a bullet like it hit the glass or something. So
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like looking to see and we had to kind
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: of come go down and come back, and when we
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: came back through the same area, we got something else
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: thrown at us and it hit the car. So that
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: area that you're talking about is a very active area,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and I've got some creepy things have happened there.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Isn't that funny?
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Are there mounds there? Did you? I hear you say mounds?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, there are?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I pulled this thing up. I thought you
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: said that, and I was I don't know a whole
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: lot about this, but this is another instance of this.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I think it's called stubs earthwork, and I was going
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: to do some digging in this for a show. But
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: like it's basically in Ohio and it had a serpent
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: mountain there at one point, and it's it's called stubs earthwork,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: but it was known as the Bigfoot earthwork by locals. Okay,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: because all these rumors, it says, unholy rumors began when
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: this earthwork was first discovered of large cryptis who were
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: witnessed at the site, and thus it was known as
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: the Bigfoot earthwork until archaeologists from Ohio History Connection changed
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: the name to Stubbs Earthwork. So the the academics come
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: in and they changed the name, but they built instead
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: of preserving the site, they put a high school on
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: top of it. Like what's called It's called the Little
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Miami High School. So I guarantee you that schools haunted.
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, Miamiami High School.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah, they put it on top of the
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: cerface if I can google earth that real quick. So
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Little Miami it's you know, it's lost history because it
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: doesn't fit the paradigm. Of course it doesn't all that
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: all that stuff, right, But what what peak my interest
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: here is that there was big Foot scene at an
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: association with mounts. Essentially.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool, really cool.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I mean that's just one. Like people come on my
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: show all the time and talk about cryptids of various
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: types showing up around mounts, all these like frog Man,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: all this stuff. There's always a mountain way.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Right, yep, you see a lot of that. And I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: know Florida has a lot of indigenous tribes still here.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: We have the Seminal Indian tribes. We have the Mikasuki
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Indian tribes and a few others and they're quite prominent.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And like the neighborhood I used to live in, we
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: believe that it was built on unmarked graves of Seminal
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Indians and that's why it was so paranormal. And there
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: was such paranormal and hey, Marian and it was we
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: had activity all throughout the neighborhood. It was nothing bad,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: but we had a lot of activity, almost as if
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: it was a portal. And you know know and Greg,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: my boss, is in the chat saying Bigfoot eight his homework,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: So that's good.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I know, like my daughter, because I always
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: taught my kids, you know, there's a spirit world and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: there's you know, things that you have to be respectful of.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: And it's okay that you know most of the time,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: it's they're not harming you, they're just curious. Well, we
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: would see various spirits come through the house, just as
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: like passing through just saying hello. And I think because
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: the kids and I were always laughing and having fun,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, that's a nice house. Well, every
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: once in a while we would have the spirit of
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: a child come through. And one time there was a
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: little boy that would hang out in my daughter's room
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: at night for a couple of hours and he would
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: just sit there and just be very kind and sweet,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and then he would just disappeared. And that happened like
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: for a few days and then he just moved on.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: But she was like, oh, here he is again, so
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: you know, and then you have the paranormal activity out
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: in the field as well, very much. And again it
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: goes along with the crypti the cryptid sightings. It's really cool.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: And then we're going to be I don't know, Brooke,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: are you gonna if you're going to be in the
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Everglades the first part of October. Not sure if you're
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: going to do that or not, but that's a hot
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: spot as well. For the skunk ape.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I won't be at that one, but I'll definitely see
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: you in Fort Myers.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, see you in Fort Myers. But yeah, the skunkcapes.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a skunk ape, but I did have
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: a really cool experience down in the Everglades. Because I
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: always say, when you're doing an investigation, whatever you're investigating,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: really understand what you're seeing and don't make assumption. Really
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: understand because I mean, you can go into what's considered
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: a haunted house and there's bad energy in this one room,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and then you could realize it's bad wiring in the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: ceiling causing effects to happen and even affect your mind
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: if this old wiring is bad. So really understand what
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: you're doing. So I decided to go and camp in
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: the Everglades by myself. I don't recommend that, but I
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: did it. I had bear spray with me, I had
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: a knife, I was ready. So the first night I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: was there and I wanted to make myself look harmless
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: and vulnerable to see what I would bring in. So
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I was laying in the tent and about one o'clock,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning, I hear a loud chirp,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: as like a bird would chirp, and I'm like, that's unusual,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: that's not normal. And then a couple minutes later, I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: hear very large footsteps right beside my tent and I'm
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: just laying there. I mean, it's like right there, and
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: then I heard what sounded like a small child just
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: saying something, but I couldn't understand what it was saying.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: And then I slowly sat up and realized it was
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: a Florida panther. Male Florida panthers, when they're in heat,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: make these sounds. And I just so happened to work
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: with a doctor who runs a wild light, a wildcat refuge,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: and I texted him the next morning and he goes, oh, yeah,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: he goes, My Florida panther, My male Florida panther will
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: chirp like a bird and make these weird sounds when
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: he's in heat. And he's like, You're like, what is that?
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: And he's like, it's a two hundred pound Florida panther
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, it's all cougar and a tent
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: and was like, hey girl, So that's that was my
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: That was my experiod. So encrypt are paranormal. But that
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: goes to show a lot of people would say, oh
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: that that that's a skunk gate. That's a skunk gate. No,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: you have to understand what the local wildlife, the birds,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: everything I think you really.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Got nick with that one.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you. I try, I try, but yeah,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I mean it's I've had a lot of really cool experiences,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of great experiences. And next weekend we're going
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: to be going to an asylum in Missouri, and we
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: have a plan, which I will if you'd like, I
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: can report back on what the results of this was.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: But we're going to be going into an asylum. And
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I was asked to where a god's helmet in the asylum,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: in this one specific room where I They want me
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: to sit in this bathtub and put on a god's
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: helmet and they're gonna leave me alone. And I said,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: as long as as we're filming, I want it filmed.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I want it filmed from different angles to catch everything.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: And so I'm going to be doing that, so we'll
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: see what happens. And this asylum has not only paranormal activity,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: but on the grounds there has been multiple witnesses of
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot and dog man on the on the property. So
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I want to go in the asylum and then go
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: out and do an investigation in the woods.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: That's great, that's awesome. Jealous with the god mask, I
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: really want to use one of those things.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can't. I'm excited. I definitely want to
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: use it and see how, uh what kind of experience
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I have. I know Greg of Relic Films had he
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: had an experience paranormal Paul he put it on, he
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: had his own separate experience. Everybody has a completely different experience,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: and I'd love to see what kind of experience I
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: have under a very paranormal I guess area where a
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: lot of negative things have happened.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: So are you are you blinded when you wear that
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: helmet or what?
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they're going to
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: do to me. I want to go in somewhat naive
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: because I don't want to really do any research on
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: it as to what they did or how they did it,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: because I want to have my own experience. And that's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: what I like to do a lot of times is
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: walk into someplace completely cold. And the last time I
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: was in Tennessee, which Greg likes to do this to me.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: He'llp like play little tricks on me or put you know,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: set me up for like little experiences and not tell
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: me what's going on. Then all of a sudden boom,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: it happens. We went into this place in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: the Knife Works. The Knife It's some big knife places
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: that has a place in the basement for relics and
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: old things that have been found in the area, whether
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: it be bones, whether it be artifacts from wars, whether
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: it be jewelry, whatever it is. You can go through
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: there in minerals and pretty stuff. Well, I'm very sensitive
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: to spirit, super sensitive and to energies. And he didn't
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: tell me, of course, and he just all of a sudden,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: just disappeared. Couldn't find him. So I was like, Okay,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to do my own thing and walk around.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: And of course he disappeared on purpose to see what
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: kind of reaction I would get. While I'm starting to
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: walk around and like, I'm starting to feel energy, like
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: residual energy from and then I keep walking and I
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: get this residual energy and I'm like, okay, that's residual.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I get that. I take a turn and no, Lie,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I was hit. I my stomach went into a knot,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: my throat started to close. I felt heaviness on my chest.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I was gasping for air. It felt like something like
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: put pounds of weights on top of me, and I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: look and there were there was this case of helmets
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: and there was one with a bullet hole through it,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: and I'm going, oh my god. I had to step away,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm going, I mean, I had to catch my
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: breath because I couldn't breathe. And I was like, okay,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk back. Same thing happened, same exact thing,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what I need. I
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: need to talk to whatever is attached to here, whatever
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: entity is there. So my friend Cheryl was there too.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I said, listen, I don't want to think. I don't
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: want these people thinking I'm crazy. I'm gonna act like
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, but I'm gonna be talking into spirit.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: So I had my recorder. I walked up, turned the
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: recorder on, and I immediately started the whole thing over again,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: knots and everything, and I started talking to the spirit
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: and immediately I went from gasping for air, fighting for
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: air to even ask a question, to immediately it was gone.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: And so there was some sort of attachment to this
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: helmet with the bullet hole in it, and it was
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: still lingering around. Not realizing that I could feel it,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I could feel its presence there, and once I started
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: talking and I acknowledged it was there, it got scared
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: and was like whoa, what's going on? And it backed up.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: So then here comes Greg around the corner. Yeah you
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: felt that that. Uh yeah, there's an attachment there. He knew,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: he knew. He just wanted to see my reaction.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the thing where they give you headphones and
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: hook up some sort of a radio and it just
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: goes through all the different stations and like you hear words.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: What is that?
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: That's the Estus method.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, and you do that and a god helmet, Uh.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: No, you know you don't want to do that at
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: the same time. So the god helmet has like this
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: low magnetic waves that that affect that the temporal part
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: of your brain where the Estes method you want to
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: remove your site and you want to remove the sound.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: And then you put the earphones on and it's going
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: through radio stations and you pick up voices from the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: spear world. They will you can hear certain words, and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes you can hear it and sometimes you can't. Now
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: you can also do something similar with a ghost box
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: without the earphones, but everybody's hearing it, and we've done
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that before. And in fact, Greg and I went with
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: paranormal four one one too.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: I was going to ask you no, no, sorry, go ahead.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Actually okay.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: So we went to this abandoned church in Cade's Cove
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: and we had a ghost box there and I had,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: you know, we a paranormal four one one has a
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: lot of their own equipment and they have everything, all
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: the bells and whistles, they have it. So they had
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: this ghost box there and they set it down and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Greg and I had been there before, and I had
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: asked them. I said, Hi, you know, my name's Natalie.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I was here before. Do you remember me? And you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: hear over the ghost box? Yes, so they remembered me.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Then we started talking to him, asking them questions. They
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: were radio silent. They weren't talking. Now I felt a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: presence in the back of the church and they weren't talking.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: They were like radio silent. So we were like, okay,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: why don't we just leave them alone with the ghost
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: box going, We're going to go outside because there is
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: a graveyard in the back and we have equipment to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: look out there. So we start to go out. We
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: leave the church, we go around and all of a sudden,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: we hear two voices talking over the ghost box inside
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: the church, and we're like what, so we go back in.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: They shut up. We're like, they thought we left. They
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: started talking back and forth and realized we didn't leave.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: So we set up the recorders, we set up everything.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: We go back out and we hear them talking again.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: So we keep going and we're out there doing our investigation.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: And on one piece of equipment that they have that
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: you could see spirits as stick figures, and we saw
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: two little stick figures by these graves, and we realize
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: that those two graves were of children, and so their
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: spirits were there, and then we saw another one down
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: the way. Well, we started hearing something weird in the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: church and it sounded like loud footsteps, but it was
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: like it just kept going and going and going. We're like, okay,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: we're going to leave that go and we're going to
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: keep walking. So I walked ahead of everybody. It was dark.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: I had no flashlights, and it was very late at night.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: It was like eleven eleven thirty at night, so it
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: was pitch black. And I'm going along and there's a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: chain and I'm holding onto the chain because I can't
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: see a thing, and I hear it from the graveyard. Hey,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and I turn and I'm like hello, and they said something.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: I couldn't hear what they said, and I'm hoping that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: they picked it up with the recorder. And then we
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: didn't hear anything else. So we walked back in the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: church and this noise is still happening. We get back
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: in there and walk up. Now, this ghost box is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: a box. It has a battery pack attached. The ghost
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: box has a wire connecting it hooked in to the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: battery pack. The hook the little plug was unplugged and
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: the battery was pushed away and my backpack was knocked
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: onto the ground. And so afterwards we listened to the
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: recording and there was a woman talking and she had
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: a very stern voice. It was like this, you know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: no nonsense woman. She's like, I'm basically I'm not having this.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: It was like we're done. And so she unplugged the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: box and knocked over my stuff and that's all she wrote.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: We didn't get anything else for the rest of the night.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: So I reached out to this guy, probably about a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: year ago now, and I won't say his name because
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: I think he's kind of done. He pulled out of
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: the whole his whole investigation. But he was investigating a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: swamp I think up in Massachusetts or something, and there
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: was bigfoot activity and but this guy was getting all
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: these crazy results, and he was getting all these recordings,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: and he was getting all these messages come through, and
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: something about a witch in the area. Basically like this,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: this activity in the swamp was just off the charts,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: and I was trying to get him on my show,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: and he's like, you know, if I come back and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: start doing this again, I'll come on your show. But
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: right now, I'm done. And basically something about the work
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: following him home and it just got too heavy. So
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: he had a cool plug and I don't think that
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: he's doing it anymore at all.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you have to be careful. You have to
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: be very mindful. So when you walk in some place, yes,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: you can bring something home with you, but if you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: set the intention and tell them you're not, you're not
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: allowed coming home with me at all. You're not allowed.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: You have to stay where you're at. You can sage,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: you can bless wherever you're at. And then there are
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: still times where you can bring something home with you
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: and then you'd have to get a professional to come
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: in and remove it.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: I like that, Paulo Santa stuff sounds nice to it.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, it really does. And you could also
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I got to have the oil and I have it
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: in a diffuser as well, so it's it's so it
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: smells so pretty.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: To add sometimes and stuff like that. Rosemary, yes, yes, rosemary.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Sometimes if if I go out, I will take a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: bath in pink EPs and salts, rosemary and lemon, and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: so it will cleanse the body, cleanse, cleanse the soul.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Something I wanted to ask earlier. Kind I got a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: little bit of it, but I mean, I guess we're
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: still talking about portals in the sense when you had
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: said paranormal for one one b I was thinking missing
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: for one one. I wanted to ask you about that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: type of stuff. Where do you think like sometimes those well, one,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: I think those places since they're all parks, you know,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: something up with that to begin with. But do you
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: think it's possible that maybe like these sightings of these
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: people disappearing is to to portals possibly, you.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Know that That's a great question. I think a lot
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: of the disappearances are can be many different things. It
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: could be foul play, it could be it could be encryptid,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: it could be a wild animal, it could be a portal,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: it could be a lot of different things. I think
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: that every case is a little different. But I also
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: think that in these parks, there's a lot of cave systems,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: there is a lot of paranormal activity, and I think
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunity. And so I love the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: fact that you just asked that question. Because Relic Films
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: we just filmed in March about missing persons and we
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: have we have a documentary being released in January called
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: The Vanished and it's about two missing person cases.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: I'll definitely check that out too.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that sounds awesome.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool. It's a dark documentary. I'm not
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. It's quite dark, so you know it's but
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: it's so cool. It was so much fun and so interesting.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: And this is a real phenomenon as well. And because
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: I just talked to somebody about this the other day,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: who knows about this stretch of trail in a national
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: park where thirty people have gone missing within a year.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: They're not talking about it. There is radio silence. But
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: if you know people who work in the park, or
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: you live in the area, or you frequent the area,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: you know about these thirty people who just poof vanished.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, and it's just like that.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Are you're about to say which park or which state?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: I don't remember. I'll message you after, Okay, I'll have
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: to ask him which park it was.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: We need to go down that trail, Yes, we do.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: We all do. We all need to go together.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, high rope, Yeah, tire rope.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: I like that. That's actually a good idea.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: We all rope together and we all go down the trail.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: There is There was a missing person's report that I
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: thought was so interesting in Maine where this woman was
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: hiking and she was hiking part of the Appalachian Trail
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: and she was calling her husband periodically. She made friends
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: along the way. Everybody was walking this trail. It was fine. Well,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: she didn't make it to her next destination, and there
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: were people that passed her along the trail, and she
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: was an older woman, and there was no trace of her.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: There was no struggle, there was no blood, there was
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: no nothing. They took the whole trail from where she was.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: They knew she was, they took the path, there was nothing.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: It was as if she vanished in thin air, never
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: to be found again. It was very bizarre, and things
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: like this happened, and it's like, well, what happened to them?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Did they see a portal and going oh, that's cool
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: and go in it and never come back out? Like
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: where does this portal go to?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what the FBI guy on the documentary that
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: I watched, the Missing Floral one documentary DESUSA, the ex
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: FBI guy, he said that they were the FBI knew
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: about the portals and were studying them, and he said
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: on tape that the intermensional instances were using the portals
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: right and coming through and snatching people apparently right off
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: the trail.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: And you know that's the government knows so much that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: they are not sharing. I mean, look at the whole
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: report of UFOs. How long have we been saying UFOs
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: and they're like, well, you're crazy, you're crazy, And all
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, the government's like, here's all the UFOs.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: We've known about this for decades, We've had a whole
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: team on it. How many times are they you know,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: did they say no, no, no, it's nothing, and then
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, yeah, it really is something. How
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: many other files do they have open about all the cryptids? Oh,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I did not become a missing person for a while,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Greg was just that was just me in my room sleeping.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: So I wonder how many of those missing persons the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Eisenhower Agreement allegedly could be responsible for, and for those
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: who might not be familiar with that. Allegedly, after Roswell happened,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: President Eisenhower, with the help of Valiant Thor, struck up
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: an agreement with these interdimensional beings or aliens that they
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: could abduct a certain amount of Americans every year and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: do whatever they want, and they were given a set
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: of there you go exactly, okay. So I wonder how
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: many of these disappearances could potentially be related to that
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: because they've been allowed a quota.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I mean there. I'm sure the government knows where, because
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: just like that little patch of land in Florida that's
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: owned by the government for whatever reason, there are patches
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: of land all over the United States owned by the government,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: and there have been reports of bigfoot nests or there's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: reports of strange activity. Now, all of a sudden, the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: government owns it, and you're not a lot allowed going
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: on to it. They have reports and they've done studies,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: and they have so much information and they are not
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: releasing it, just like they released the UFOs. At some
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: point in time in the future, they are going to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: release these files and we're going to be like, you know,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: we told you, y'all. Yeah, I knew it, I knew it.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: You know that that Eisenhower treaty thing sounds absolutely bonkers nuts,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: but there was a very real incident associated with that
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: that you know, lends some sort of crediens possibly to it,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: because if anybody looks up the nineteen fifty two Washington,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: DC UFO fly over that really happened. I don't know
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: what it was, but something strange flew over the White
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: House multiple something strange, And so I just want to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: sprinkle that in there, because you know, did President Eisenhower
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: make contact with they were that was and work something out, just.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Saying yeah, there's the presidents know, the government knows. Other
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: countries they know as well, but they're just keeping it
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: under wraps because I think if we all knew the truth,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: we would be shocked as to everything that is happening.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: In this world that we know nothing about.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: I think the reason they keep a lot of it
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: hidden is because, well, it's probably their own shit. And
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: then if you understood how it worked, you'd be like, wait,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: that's possible.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know time travel, shifting timelines, you know, going
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: into portals ending up somewhere else, and you know understanding
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: what these scriptids are and the abilities that they have.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've heard of bigfoots cloaking and looking at
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: their hair and how the makeup of their hair is
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: and how they can camouflage very very well and you
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: won't be able to see them.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that earlier, actually,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: about what you thought about all this, like does the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: government know about bigfoot and everything? Because I mean I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: had a really interesting conversation with a ex Green Beret
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: once here in Nashville. It's just it was like back
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: when I used to drink. I used to go out
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: and drink with this guy. He had all these crazy
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: stories and like he's one of these bearded dudes that
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: still disappears for a couple of months and goes over
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: to the Middle East and does who knows what, yeah,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: and gets paid big time for it. So he had
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: all these crazy stories. But apparently there's a hierarchy. There's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: a system in the government that goes up through the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: bureau I'm trying to remember, like parks the fishing game
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: answer to the Bureau of Land Management or like that,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: and then it goes up to the what did he say,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: the State Department, and like just a couple of people
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: in the State Department handle all the big footcases and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: they kept and the couple people at the top they've
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: been in government for forty years. That's how they keep
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: it locked down. Yeah, these guys just they die in
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: office essentially, well they're not in office, but they die
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: in that position, and the secrets go with them, and
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: they get somebody else who's been in for thirty years
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: who they can trust secrets.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it goes beyond a TS clearance, So it
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: goes beyond top secret clearance, whatever that is above that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: is what they have because they can't have just everybody
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: knowing this information because then it's going to get leaked.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: So they want to keep it very very tight and
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: they're not telling anybody, and they'll release it one day,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure of it, and then we're going to find
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: out so much more. But right now, I mean, look
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: at all the UFO sightings that there are and people
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: are coming out. It's because it's more acceptable. You know,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: people didn't want to share it when it wasn't acceptable.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Now it is. And just like the Bigfoot sightings or
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: you know, people go out in the woods and they
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: see something and they're like, oh no, I didn't see that.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that, and they didn't want to tell
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: anybody because they're embarrassed or they're to get made fun of.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: You know, we need to understand that this is a creature.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: People have seen it. There's been multiple multiple sightings each
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: year all throughout the world. You know, we just have
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: to really understand and study it and again share information.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: And I think to your point, I don't think we'll
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: ever have the day where they do a massive dump.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: What I think it is is kind of like you
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: know how they talk about when you boil a frog,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: how you have to turn the water up slowly because
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: if you put a frog into a boiling pot, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to jump out. I think if they were to
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  Speaker 2: truly release everything that they have, it would be mass
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  Speaker 2: chaos on a worldwide scale. Absolutely, what you're doing are
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  Speaker 2: these little drips and these drops, and I really think that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I was just watching the game the other
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  Speaker 2: day and there was a Bigfoot Verizon commercial.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have seen that.
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  Speaker 2: One, but there's literally a Verizon cell phone commercial saying
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: like you can use your iPhone to bigfoot, like edited
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  Speaker 2: themself out of the photo, see wouldn't be seen. And
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  Speaker 2: they're pushing it more and more mainstream. And I think
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  Speaker 2: it is that soft disclosure because if they let it
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  Speaker 2: all out all at once, it would be massive chaos.
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  Speaker 2: I think that they're doing these very intentional and strategic
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  Speaker 2: drops of information.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so exactly, because if we did
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  Speaker 1: hear everything all at once, I think there would be chaos.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it would be it would be so bad
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  Speaker 1: and nobody could handle it. It's like we've been what
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  Speaker 1: what's happening in that mountain, what's happening in the sea,
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  Speaker 1: who's living under the you know, what's what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot more to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because those even those little like if you're on
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  Speaker 3: the highway and you're on a road trip and you
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: drive by those little state patrol stations like the state
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  Speaker 3: patrol officers have a pamphlet of what to do and
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  Speaker 3: who to call if somebody has a big foot inside
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  Speaker 3: or a UFO incident. Yeah, and it's I think it
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  Speaker 3: goes back to this hierarchy that this guy was telling
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  Speaker 3: me about. And now that I'm thinking about it, it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't It was not the state Department. I think he
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  Speaker 3: said it went up to Homeland is who it was.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because somebody took a picture and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: that it's been passed around. It's a bigfoot and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a sign and I believe a park in Utah
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  Speaker 1: and it says, you know, bigfoot lifts here. Don't feed
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  Speaker 1: the bigfoot, and it's all the instructions of what not
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  Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, it's like here's your just understand this.
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  Speaker 1: Stay on the path, don't go off the path.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. This guy right here who does the missing
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  Speaker 3: for one one, David Plas.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, David.
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  Speaker 3: This is his big foot book called the Hookah Project,
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  Speaker 3: and he goes through a bunch on all these states
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  Speaker 3: that have laws that deal with bigfoot. Yeah, we're so
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  Speaker 3: up in Washington, Oregon and like in those areas where
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: it's just kind of known that it's a thing, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but there's there's all these instances in here where state
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  Speaker 3: government acknowledges the existence of this creature.
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  Speaker 1: Well, something really cool. Anybody that loves cruises. In September
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six, David Palates is going to partner
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: up with gather Up Events and they're going to do
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  Speaker 1: an Alaska cruise. So you can go on a cruise
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  Speaker 1: to Alaska, do the whole Bigfoot thing and do the
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  Speaker 1: Missing for One one piece as well, and like spend
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: a whole week on a cruise with David Plautus and
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  Speaker 1: several other speakers. So it's a it's a cool event.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you get to learn so much more and
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  Speaker 1: have one on one time with him, which is such
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  Speaker 1: a cool experience.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking for my book Tim. I got him
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  Speaker 2: to signed at the Gatlinburg Bigfoot Conference. I flew it
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: there and he signed my copy of Hooper Project. Excellent
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  Speaker 2: book for anybody who's interested in the stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that you have that book. That's that's all.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great place.
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  Speaker 8: Since y'all, since y'all plug it in books, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 8: go ahead and plug in my book Journey through the
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  Speaker 8: Origins of History on page uh, page two d and
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  Speaker 8: twenty one. That's where I actually talk about you know,
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  Speaker 8: over the.
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  Speaker 4: Last that's great books.
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  Speaker 8: I had to throw my source in it too.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: I actually talk about Bigfoot and ink you Do being
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: wanting the same like I was saying earlier, because of
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 8: the simple fact of the mythologies that depictions and so
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  Speaker 8: on and so forth.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are these old men theological.
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  Speaker 8: Stories that talk about this so obvious is it's obviously
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  Speaker 8: big So I just wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: Throw that out there.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Saying, that's so cool. Yeah, read up. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great books out there.
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  Speaker 8: And that's and that's actually how I found out about
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  Speaker 8: it was that I was reading so many different books
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 8: about bigfoot, and then somebody mentioned in one of their
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: books about inky Dude being a possible bigfoot. So I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: looked more into it, and I was like, oh, wow,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 8: that's that's actually pretty interesting because they show the different
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: depictions of Inky Do as possibly.
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  Speaker 3: Of what would be a bigfoot, and the horns.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 8: A lot of people look at horns as something being evil,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 8: but that was being what Tim.
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  Speaker 3: Would say, like a hierarchy.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 8: That's where you would represent a king or a god
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 8: or so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 3: Most of us had the same thing.
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  Speaker 8: He was actually the first one that was depicted with horns.
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  Speaker 1: So cool, U goes, what do you think humans were created? Oh? Greg?
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  Speaker 1: Working with him is so so such fun.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: Did uh? Anybody think go ahead to him?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Just as dumb, so that we don't need. I was
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: just thinking about, there's somebody showed me this thing. It's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: a it's an old old painting or the ceiling of
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: a chap or something. It's got big foot in it. Somebody,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: somebody in the chap probably know about it. I forget
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  Speaker 3: which painting it was, so I don't want to say
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: it was interesting. It's like.
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  Speaker 1: You have to look that up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think you're crazy to Yeah. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 4: recently too and I was like, yo, what the fuck
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: is that too? It looks like a Harry Purson. Anybody
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  Speaker 4: have any other questions before we start the wrap it up? No,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: one thing? Go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: When you're on a paranormal investigation, what other kinds of
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: technology do you use? And is there one that's like
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: your favorite or you know, does it vary case by
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: case or.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you it varies case by case. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: I you know, the technology is great, but it can
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: also glitch. What I like to do is I like
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: to use my own sense, and I like to walk
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: in and just feel the whole room because I can
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: feel the presence. I can feel when they're near me,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: and I can feel if they're good or they're bad.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: And so that's what I start out with. And then
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: I'll go to a recorder and start asking questions, because
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: you know, you want to make sure that you can
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: kind of first show them respect to their to their
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: space and thank them for allowing you to be there,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: and then say I'd love to understand a little bit
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: more about you, and then use a recorder. I think
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: that's my favorite. With the ghost box and the Estes method,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: you may get other voices in that from radio signals
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: that may be a little jumbled up a little bit,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: so you may not be getting one hundred percent of
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: what they're saying. A lot of times you can go
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: and get an app on your phone.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: And you can use that, and that is I wondered, Yeah,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: I wondered if there was anything to that.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, legit they I have experience with them, and my
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: friend uses them. But I also had another individual and
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: he actually tested He ran it at his house all
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: day long for hours. Nothing ever came through. He was
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: expecting to get something, you know, like if it's just
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: like a random word generator or something. And he tested
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: it a few times at home, didn't get anything.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Brought it out. We used it.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: In an investigation and we were having dialogue in the
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: cemetery and he's like, it's never done this before. We
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: were having like intelligent conversations, so they're legit.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I mean I think it's a great
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: way to communicate or to understand who you're talking with.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: So again, just whatever method that you use, test it out,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: because there are things that will glitch.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: I would think it's more useful, like in conjunction with
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: other technology too, so that you could gotcha.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense. And the one really cool thing that
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: happened to me I was in Massachusetts. I was living
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: in Boston and it was a very haunted area and
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: we had so much activity up there. And one day
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting and watching TV and I felt a hand
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: rest right on my arm and nobody was there, and
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going oh nope. I'm like, okay, all right, you're there.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: I can hear you, I can feel you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's the rule.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: You can move things around in the background and make
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: all the noise. You won't, but if you touch me,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: I'm out.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah that hand, I felt the fingers, I felt everything.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh okay, yep, nope.
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  Speaker 4: So Natalie, for people that might make it down to
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: Fort Myers, what what would you possibly be talking about?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, yep, I'm going to be talking about portals.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking about their relation to the
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: cryptid world, to the paranormal world and everything in between.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about the reasoning behind portals
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: and the science behind it as well as the theories
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: behind it.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. Look forward to hearing it. That's great, awesome.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: So yeah, if anybody is in the area, what is
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: that the eighteenth again? Correct? Yes, Charlie's Beyond Belief. We
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: got Brooke and Natalie both speaking there, so come check
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: it out. And it's cheapest hell too, I think, yeah,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: it is all right, So before we wrap it up,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: I'll let everybody plug their shows again real quick, one
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: more time. Brooke go ahead, let everybody know what they
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: can find your amazing show.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you again for having me. This is an
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: awesome conversation. I love love this stuff, so thank you.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram and everywhere else at
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Darkforded podcast. You can find me wherever you get your podcasts.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: This is great.
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  Speaker 4: Listen No, thank you for coming on, and thank you
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: for suggesting the guest. It was great Tim, Thank you bro.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this was fun. Yeah, thanks Nalie and to all
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: the other REDEXX. Thanks again Nick for having me and
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah sixth Century Podcast YouTube, Spotify, Apple, Instagram, Patreon, come
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• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: Thank you, appreciate you joining us. So, Sarah, what's up?
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  Speaker 5: I definitely enjoyed this. This was so informative. It's fun
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: to just kind of, you know, shoot the ship with
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: other people that are into this and just bounce ideas
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: off of each other, like that's that's what it's all about. Yeah,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: but you can find me at the Universe Unveiled podcast.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: You can visit our website for the Institute for Natural
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: Philosophy dot org, and you can view our magazine there.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: Universe Unveiled puts out a new episode every other Wednesday
• 1:28:37
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• 1:28:39
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• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: Those you got a great public relations to the poment tyro.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead. Let everybody know what they.
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  Speaker 3: Can It is awesome.
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  Speaker 8: I definitely loved this discussion, enjoyed what you had to share.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: Like I said, it is Bigfoot is a big thing
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 8: for me. I'm actually in Georgia, so we get you know,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 8: somewhat of some stories about it whatnot. Everything like I said,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: you can find on me is on my website Rebirth
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: at theWord dot com, and I talk.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: A little bit about you know, Bigfoot.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 8: In a relationship in Somemerians and mythology and so on
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: and so forth in my book Journey through the Origins
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: of History, which can be bought on Amazon.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: I appreciated Nick.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: Of course, of course I appreciate you coming on. And Natalie, finally,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: please let everybody know where they can find all your stuff.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, you can find me on Facebook and Instagram under
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Natalie Smearman. You can find me on Channel twelve TV network,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: you can find me at Relic Films, and you can
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: also find me well. I'll be with Greg on Beyond
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: the Ordinary, being released in November and you can see
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: the documentary The Vanished being released in January, and then
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: you can also see me upcoming in Enigma nine to
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: one one.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: Awesome, thank you so much for coming on the way.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: You told the stories that everything was a great time,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: you know, your experiences for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Yah, yeah, yeah, definitely great so much.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: Definitely definitely if you ever have any more stuff to
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: come back on, you're always welcome. So definitely awesome. I
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: will all right, and uh, thank you everybody in the chat.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: That's what's up. There was a lot of people here,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: you know, from old channels, and I appreciate everybody commenting
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: and adding stuff, and everybody's sticking around for the whole show.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: That's what's up. Uh So until the next one, everybody
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: be well later