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Trump's Favorite Conspiracy Theories · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: favorite conspiracy theories, and I don't know, seems like he's
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  Speaker 2: How have you been since we recorded last You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's been Usen highs Ubin Low's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, you know, we've been living together. I make
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  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, and I have not changed my clothes like
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  Speaker 2: I mean very little light, very yeah, it's it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of if the it's a closet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was gonna sae like a
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  Speaker 2: like a like a cave or it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like an above ground dungeon. Yeah, there you go. That's
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  Speaker 1: what that was the word I was looking for this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is coming out a week
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  Speaker 1: after the episode we just recorded about Jeffrey Epstein or
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  Speaker 1: two weeks ago, but at some point in the not
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  Speaker 1: so distant past, you know what is time exactly. I've
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  Speaker 1: heard it was a flat circle. I have heard that
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  Speaker 1: on several pots.
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  Speaker 2: No one's ever been able to tell you what that means,
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  Speaker 2: but I've heard it.
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  Speaker 1: No one has any idea except I did. I did
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  Speaker 1: say that to someone once and they like explained it.
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  Speaker 1: But after I listened back to their explanation, I was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not telling me anything. Sounds good, though, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds great. Uh, but on that episode we talked about
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and great guy, fantastic dude. Who the fuck
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  Speaker 1: knows what's happening with the Jeffrey Epstein case? Oh man, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: by the time this comes out, my god, imagine he
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  Speaker 1: could be fucking president right now for all I fucking know.
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  Speaker 2: No, it turns out he's actually Jesus. Yeah, he's come
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  Speaker 2: back into the second.
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  Speaker 1: He was actually rescuing all those girls gez from the
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  Speaker 1: Clinton's Clinton body count. Yeah, hashtag Clinton body count. So
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  Speaker 1: who knows what's going on with Jeffrey Epstein right now?
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  Speaker 1: But we did mention on that episode that Trump had
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  Speaker 1: been pushing an Epstein conspiracy thing. He wighed in, he
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  Speaker 1: did have something to say. It's usually so laconic, which
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  Speaker 1: before we really launch in to this episode, which we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about the twenty three conspiracy theories
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  Speaker 1: that Trump has elevated, according to the Washington Post. This
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  Speaker 1: is from a Washington Post article The Top twenty the Top,
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  Speaker 1: And I've mentioned this before on I think on the
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  Speaker 1: three hundredth episode of the Main Unpopular Opinion podcast. But
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  Speaker 1: to me, one of Obama's biggest failings as a president
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  Speaker 1: is his decision to be the Twitter president as opposed
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  Speaker 1: to being the president who recognized, oh, this is bad,
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  Speaker 1: no government officials on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, it's amazing that that isn't the rule.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that would have been. Like Obama was at
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  Speaker 1: a fork in the road, yeah, when he became president,
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  Speaker 1: and he followed the wrong path, Yes, which was to
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  Speaker 1: embrace the idea of a president spreading his message via
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  Speaker 1: social media. Yeah, which, in retrospect, we should have outlawed
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  Speaker 1: the idea of a president being aunt.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, it's it seems like it is going to have
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  Speaker 2: disastrous consequences, or it seems like maybe it has already.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, also true. And so Trump that's a thing
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  Speaker 1: he does regularly is uses Twitter to elevate conspiracy theories,
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  Speaker 1: right wing talking points, all the things you don't want
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  Speaker 1: a president dabbling in, whatsoever. Yep. And the Washington Post.
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  Speaker 1: When Jeffrey Epstein died, the Washington Post put out an
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  Speaker 1: article about Trump pushing the conspiracy theory that Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was killed by the Clintons, or at the behest of
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  Speaker 1: the Clintons, which probably.
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  Speaker 2: Not I yeah, I mean, yeah, we talked about this
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  Speaker 2: in the last episode. It's like, of, I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem like the most likely theory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they also in that same article where they
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  Speaker 1: called out Trump over this, they list twenty two other
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories that Trump has given credence to on his
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  Speaker 1: Twitter or in other ways like in public whatever. So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go through them, Yeah, yay, And we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: see if we land on any that we maybe find credible,
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  Speaker 1: because there's gotta be on a list of twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: There's got to be something in there. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: would think, like what if he's like, what if like
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  Speaker 1: nineteen is aliens are real? Oh, there we go, common ground,
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  Speaker 1: We found it. But I feel like it's not.
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  Speaker 2: No, I feel like it's not that the fatal problem
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  Speaker 2: is that he is stupid. That is a big problem,
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  Speaker 2: and so anything that he believes is also going to
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  Speaker 2: be really stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't even know that it's so much
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  Speaker 1: that he's stupid. He is to some extent, he's definitely ignorant. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he's I think he's malleable, also true, gullible,
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  Speaker 1: extremely I think he sees something and if it sounds
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  Speaker 1: about right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it fits his agrees his worldview, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Think that's probably where a lot of this comes from.
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  Speaker 1: So should we dive right in? I'm ready. The Number
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  Speaker 1: one is Clinton's might be involved in Epstein's death. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I talked about it. Is that going to be
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  Speaker 1: the most reasonable one? We'll see? Yeah? Uh. Number two
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  Speaker 1: the Clintons might have been involved in Vince Foster's death.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever looked into the death of Vince Foster?
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  Speaker 2: Not super in depth, but I will say it is
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  Speaker 2: the first conspiracy theory that I remember hearing and thinking
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  Speaker 2: that it was stupid. I think it's the first one
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  Speaker 2: where I was like, this is probably fake, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even remember, like it might be the first
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  Speaker 2: conspiracy theory period that I had ever heard, because yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it came up a lot in the nineties.
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  Speaker 1: And the the thing about Vince Foster, there is a long,
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  Speaker 1: long line of really shady suicides that were probably government murders. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and his is the least convincing, yep, Like, there are
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  Speaker 1: so many others, Like I've talked. We talked about Terry
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  Speaker 1: Yeeky on one of the first episodes of this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He was one of the first first responders on the
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  Speaker 1: scene at Oklahoma City. Oh word, and his suicide like
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  Speaker 1: he was bound and had rope burns on his neck,
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  Speaker 1: in ligature marks on his wrist and was shot in
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  Speaker 1: the head at a forty five degree angle like he
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  Speaker 1: was murdered. Maybe maybe he was a trick shooter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like he had a series of it's just a shame YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: didn't it sist exactly?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was trying to start a trend, right, but
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  Speaker 2: he was just a little too soon, and that's what happened,
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  Speaker 2: way too early.
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  Speaker 1: But Vin Foster's isn't that weird? He just committed suicide
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  Speaker 1: at a time when you could see him committing suicide, right, Like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: he had knowledge of whatever was going on with the Clintons.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe at the time, ye who knows. He also was
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  Speaker 1: he was going down for that scandal that he was
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  Speaker 1: involved in, right, So it's just as likely he could
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  Speaker 1: have been saving himself from prison exactly, and if he was,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how loyal he was to the Clintons. There
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  Speaker 1: are those crazy people out there who will be like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to fucking take the Clintons sound with me,
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  Speaker 1: I'd kill myself first, And it's like really for Bill
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  Speaker 1: Clinton Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there ye people who believe a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. There are probably people who think that Bud
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  Speaker 2: Dwyer's death was was a murder.
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  Speaker 1: What how that's that's the joke. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would just be funny. Oh yeah, And I
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  Speaker 2: just wanted to talk about budwire. I always I always like,
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  Speaker 2: have you seen the documentary? Uh no, I haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: a documentary. I've just seen the video heartbreaking. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it seems like a very sad story, but
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  Speaker 2: also it's a politician killing himself a TV. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible. But he was like the one politician
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  Speaker 1: that probably didn't deserve yet, like he was absolutely framed
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  Speaker 1: for the shit he was accused of and it just
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  Speaker 1: ruined his life. Yeah, and it's that documentary is hard
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  Speaker 1: to watch. Great now I feel bad about using him
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  Speaker 1: as a joke all the time. Well, I bet. At
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  Speaker 1: the same time, don't kill yourself on TV if you
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  Speaker 1: don't what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's like, yeah, don't look it up because
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  Speaker 2: it's a I don't want to tell people to look
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  Speaker 2: up a snuff video, but it's fucking nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, sorry, uh so, yeah, the Vince Foster thing.
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  Speaker 1: Go back and listen to our episode about shady suicides.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about Vince Foster there. It's not that yeah shady.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like a suicide and it really, legitimately is
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  Speaker 1: one of the instances of this where I've looked in
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  Speaker 1: to it and been like, oh right, I don't think so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which is rare, and it's not because I fucking care
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  Speaker 1: about Bill Clinton, no give a fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he goes down for the Epstein thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and Healy might, we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. Well,
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  Speaker 1: to be fair to Trump, he did not spread this.
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  Speaker 1: He created it? Yet did Trump create this?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it is him talking about it is my
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  Speaker 2: first understand like hearing about it, and then I'm and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's the same for most people who have
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  Speaker 2: heard of it. He was the main proponent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I just don't remember Trump being the
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  Speaker 1: one pushing it when it first surfaced, which was like
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  Speaker 1: mid two thousands, because well not mid two thousands. Obama
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even president then like late mid yeah, or maybe
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  Speaker 1: even into like twenty ten or so like around when
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  Speaker 1: he was first running for president, because I remember at
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  Speaker 1: one point his campaign put out a T shirt with
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  Speaker 1: his birth certificate oh on it, which I thought was
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  Speaker 1: really funny.
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  Speaker 2: I remember it being talked about in two thousand and
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  Speaker 2: eight when he was Yeah, definitely, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Just I don't remember Trump being tied to it then,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe he was. Yeah, yeah, but I know, but
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  Speaker 1: he definitely spread it, Yeah, he definitely as it carried on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he became one of the main people spreading it. And
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  Speaker 1: we've seen his birth certificate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's he was. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's just so nakedly racist, that's all it is. It
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  Speaker 2: really is like there's That's how it is with so
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  Speaker 2: many of his conspiracy theories and and the widespread white
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  Speaker 2: wing conspiracy theories that go around, like they're just like,
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  Speaker 2: it's you gotta dismiss him because they're just so nakedly
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  Speaker 2: like bigoted. Yeah, either racist or anti Semitic.
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  Speaker 1: Number four, This is a fun one. Oh yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is good. This is good. No, you know what, this
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  Speaker 1: is his best one. Ted Cruz's father may have been
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  Speaker 1: an involved in the Kennedy assassination.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what makes this one really good is that
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  Speaker 2: Ted Cruz still kisses Trump's ass all the time. Now, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was like he would like say this shit, he
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  Speaker 2: would call his wife ugly and like say this shit
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  Speaker 2: to his face in debates, and now he's still all
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  Speaker 2: over him.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. It's suck. I mean it sucks for the country. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it sucks for the country. It makes you almost feel
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  Speaker 1: bad for Ted Cruz.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: The thing about this though, is I do think there
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  Speaker 1: is some evidence that Ted Cruz's dad was at least
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  Speaker 1: had knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald. I think this is,
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  Speaker 1: against all odds, one of Trump's conspiracy theories that's most
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  Speaker 1: based in something that actually happened. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's like, you know, the the Kennedy is just
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  Speaker 2: a whole fucking not a tangled knot of theories and
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  Speaker 2: who knows what is actually true.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen there's a documentary on Netflix called
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  Speaker 1: The Smoking Gun. I haven't watched it, though it is
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  Speaker 1: I think the most compelling jfk assassination theory, and the
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  Speaker 1: theory is that Lee Harvey Oswald was the only shooter,
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  Speaker 1: and he did shoot John F. Kennedy once and that
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  Speaker 1: the second bullet that hit John F. Kennedy was accidentally
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  Speaker 1: fired by the Secret Service. I have heard about this theory,
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  Speaker 1: and the guy who came up with that theory is
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  Speaker 1: the same ballistics expert who proved that Lee Harvey Oswald
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  Speaker 1: could have fired those three shots.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's been proven by pretty much any military marksman.
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  Speaker 1: Hanes No, well, no, CBS did a recreation of it,
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  Speaker 1: and there were something like eighteen different people who tried it,
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  Speaker 1: and one guy was able to get those three shots off.
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  Speaker 1: And when he got him off, he was like, Lee
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  Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald didn't fire all three shots. He was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the fucking best and I could barely do it.
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  Speaker 1: And he spent the next thirty years of his life
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  Speaker 1: looking into just the ballistics evidence from the JFK shooting,
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  Speaker 1: and he came up with a really compelling theory that
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  Speaker 1: what happened. There's a famous picture of one of the
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  Speaker 1: cars behind JFK pulling off and you see a Secret
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  Speaker 1: Service agent holding a rifle. And his theory is that
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  Speaker 1: the Secret Service agent heard Lee Harvey Oswald shooting and
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  Speaker 1: stood up to start looking around to see where he
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  Speaker 1: needed to shoot. Yeah, and when he stood up, the
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  Speaker 1: car accelerated and he had sell back and accidentally fired
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  Speaker 1: a shot that fucking hit John F. Kennedy in the head.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing about that conspiracy, it makes everyone, right,
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  Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald really was the only assassin there, but
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  Speaker 1: the government was involved did cover it up, just not
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  Speaker 1: in the nefarious, crazy ways that we've been accustomed to.
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  Speaker 2: Hearing, right, Yeah, that and that does make sense. And
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  Speaker 2: I had and I had heard that that theory about
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  Speaker 2: the secret service agent, and yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: It's I think it's the most compelling.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, I think the other one that i've
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  Speaker 2: you know, I again, it's this whole thing about I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to like take culpability away from people who
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  Speaker 2: might deserve to like have agency over their actions, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like it kind of takes away from the evil that
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  Speaker 2: people do. But there's also compelling evidence that Oswald might
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  Speaker 2: have at least had influence by like the KGB and
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  Speaker 2: that sort of thing, right, nothing like nothing so nefarious
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  Speaker 2: as like plotting missions and second gunmen and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Just like this is the guy who was obviously very
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  Speaker 2: sympathetic with.
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  Speaker 1: The Soviet cause, married a Russia, had a.
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  Speaker 2: Russian wife, and who was friends with someone who who
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  Speaker 2: is very likely was a KGP agent, So like you
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  Speaker 2: know who knows, But that's the whole other thing. And
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  Speaker 2: like whether it would have been funny though if Ted
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  Speaker 2: Cruse's dad was that secret service.
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  Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, that would be amazing.
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  Speaker 2: That would be the best possible outcome of all of this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like that's the secret is Like it turns out that
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  Speaker 2: was his dad was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I brought this up. I feel like these are
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  Speaker 1: sort of sister podcasts, And I brought this up on
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  Speaker 1: the Pretty Scary Podcast on a recent episode, so I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I should bring it up on the Conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: podcast too. The thing that strikes me as weird about
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories compared to true crime, which are two very
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  Speaker 1: big genres right now for podcast TV shows. Whatever absolutely
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  Speaker 1: is in any true crime show at some point a
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  Speaker 1: thing you're gonna hear is I don't believe in coincidences.
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  Speaker 1: Like Scott Peterson is a good example. All the evidence
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  Speaker 1: against Scott Peterson is circumstantial, and there are a couple
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  Speaker 1: witnesses who, if their version of events is true, he's innocent. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And all it comes down to is did these people
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  Speaker 1: really see Lacy Peterson walking her dog when they say
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  Speaker 1: they did, because if they did, Scott Peterson didn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: And people will go, why'd he buy a boat? Why
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: was he out fishing that day? I don't know, because
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: he was a dude who liked to fish. Why did
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: he buy a secret boat? Because his pregnant wife would
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: probably be like, why are you buying a boat where
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking pregnant. I mean, no, one's saying that he's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: not an asshole. And what you'll hear in instances like
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that is there's no such thing as coincidences. Like, it's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: no coincidence she was found in the water and he
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: just bought a boat, and it's like, yeah, it could be.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: But then cut to conspiracy theories. Yeah, And I think
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: a good mishmash of true crime and conspiracy theory is
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: there's a guy out there named Edward Wayne Edwards who
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: is a confirmed serial killer. I mean that a serial
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: killer name. Yeah, and his kid makes a good case
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: for him being the Zodiac killer, damn and the Atlanta
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: child murderer. Wow. And the weird thing speaking of there's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: no such thing as coincidence is very tight in Jimmy
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Hoffa's inner circle. When Jimmy Hoffa went missing. And the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: thing about Edward Wayne Edwards is he was a serial
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: killer of opportunity. He would see someone not only did
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: he want to murder, but he wanted to frame people
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and he wanted to kill in a way that made
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: it look like someone else did it. And one of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the suggestions in this documentary is there's a really famous
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: fight that everyone knows happened between Jimmy Hoffa and this
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: other guy. And what they suggest in this documentary is
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Edward Wayne Edwards saw that and was like, if I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: fucking kill Haffa, they're gonna think this guy did it,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and that maybe he killed Jimmy Hoffa. So there is
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: there no such thing as coincidence? Or is that a coincidence?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: True crime fans truly was not expecting Jimmy Hoffa to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: come into that story. People more of an open mind.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Imagine finding out for certain that the Zodiac Killer killed
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Hoffa.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: That's a movie that sounds like a fucking movie. It
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: would be great and that I encourage people to watch
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that it's on Investigation Discovery, and uh, it ends with
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the person making the documentary. He has Edward Wayne Edwards DNA. Yeah,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and the San Francisco PD has the Zodiac Killers DNA.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: That's a thing we know from history, right, Yeah. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: he sends this DNA to the San Francisco PD and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: is like, will you check it? We see if it matches,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: uh huh, And they refuse. They refuse to and it
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: ends with him like cut to six months later and
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: he's like still waiting. They won't they won't compare it
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and see if it's him.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's incredible. I now want Jake Jillenhall to return.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Is Robert gray Smith and like I want him Jake
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Chillenhall hunting Jim Yeah, to test the DNA. It's gonna
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: be this whole investigated thing. He's gonna go and like
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: dig into Jimmy Hoffa's murder, Like just make a whole
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Zodiac universe I have.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh my god, that's so fucking like I had
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: not heard that before.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. That's really incredible.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: If that documentary had only involved the Zodiac Killer, the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Atlanta child murders in Jimmy Hoffa, I'd be sold if
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: this guy gets in. At one point, he claims this
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: guy killed John Benet Ramsey. He claims he killed Teresa Halbach,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: which is the making a murderer case. Oh right, yeah,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and a weird thing of okay, okay, wait a minute.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: But the weird thing about that there is this one
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: news clip where they're in the in the courtroom and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it fucking looks like he's standing in the hallway and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it would be another thing where he would be like,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: if I fucking kill someone on his property, they're just
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: gonna think he did it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: So this guy is like he's the best, that's like
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: supernatural level CEO tiler.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: That's a little much.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, we we can't have him be responsible how much
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: this here's round. No one thought it was weird that
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: this guy's moving around every five fucking years.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Here's what he did. He would move from town to town,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and his kids said this. What he would do is
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: find a place that needed renovating and talk the owner
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: into letting him live there for free while he renovated
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: right place. Yeah, so this guy never had fucking apartment rentals,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like he just kind of lived like he moved his family.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Around and his and his kids say that they were
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: living in all of these places. Is as soos exactness?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and he was one of the big details
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in the Zodiac. It's insane.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: What's the name of this documentary. I don't usually watch
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff, but like I might, Actually.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Everyone should watch this one. That's wild.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I'm legitimately shocked. Like I've been totally off balance ever
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: since you said Jimmy Hoffa, I've just been like spiraling.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: It's called it was him, the many murders of Ed
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Edwards and it's nuts.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. And the thing about the thing about
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the Zodiac Killer is we know the Zodiac Killer was
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: in this one particular prison. Yeah that was known for,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: uh the leatherwork that they did, right, Yeah, this guy
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: was in that prison at that exact time, and one
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: of the only things he left his kid was all
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: this like leather work. And so the idea is that
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he like he saw that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: What was the main suspects named Robert Allen? Uh you
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, the Zodiac guy. I can't
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: remember his name. I like, I yeah, he was the
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: guy who was the creepy guy in the movie.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So like the idea is that he like
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: saw and like knew this.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Creepy guy and was like but if I killed some people,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: they would just think it was this guy, if they
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: ever thought it was anyone. Yeah, did And have they
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: pinned actual like, have they had evidence to pin actual
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: murders on him?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yes. His daughter ended up turning him in because there
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was this cold case in Wisconsin, in rural Wisconsin where
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: making a murderer happen. Yes, And there was this cold
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: case and his daughter ends up seeing a television report
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: about it and it's like we were living right by that,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: yeah when that happened. And in the report she found
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: out that they had the hiller's DNA, So she went
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to this reporter and was like, you can test mine
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and if it like, it's gonna be sort of a
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: match if it's my dad. And that's how they fucking
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: caught him. His daughter was just like, yeah, that was
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: probably him.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: So they just so they had to just been like,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: our dad is a fucking psychopath.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They They described one instance where there was a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: kid that was I think had like beat up one
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of the kids when they were at school, like one
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: of his kids, and he came home one day and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was like, that kid's not gonna be a problem anymore.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And that kid was fucking murdered. Holy sh and they
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: think he probably murdered that kid, so its like he
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: was a good dad, Oh my god. And yeah, it's a.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: This is like, this is so off of what we
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: were but like, this is crazy. This is the craziest
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: they I've heard today.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: It really is. I encourage it. Yeah, we went way
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: off course, but it's still a conspiracy. Yeah, no, it definitely.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I mean people are gonna I mean, I'm definitely really
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: fascinated by this, and it's it's I think it's it
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: still ties into what we're talking about because the the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: original point I was on was the idea that there's
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: no such thing as a coincidence or everything's a coincidence.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Watched this documentary. What if he killed Kennedy? What if
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: he killed Jeffrey Epstein? He don't know, I don't know
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: what prison this guy's I think he died in prison,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: he allegedly, Yeah, what if? Yeah, who knows?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: What if he killed himself like they killed himself? Yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I now I'm just gonna say that this guy he
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: killed Vince Foster.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: He killed Vince Foster's Clinton's people are gonna suspect these Clintons.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I think It goes without saying that he killed Martin
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Luther King Junior and Malcolm X. He killed Seth Rich,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Seth Rich.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: He was the guy who broke into the apartment. Yeah.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah. He broke into Watergate, Yeah, Watergate hotel. True.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: He wasn't even he didn't get even though the Democratic
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Office was in there.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: He was just like looking around. He used chemical weapons
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: in North Korea, Yep, he was the guy.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: He had weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, right, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: that was him all right.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Back to Trump's silly conspiracy theories. Joe Scarborough involved in
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: his intern's death. I don't know anything about this. I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: had never heard of this one though. This is Trump's tweet.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: So now that Matt lower is gone, when will the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: fake news practitioners at NBC be terminating the contract of
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Phil Griffin? And will they terminate low ratings Joe Scarborough
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: based on the quote unsolved mystery that took place in
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Florida's year years ago, investigate This is just boomer conservative nonsense,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: and this is a reference to whispers that then Florida
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Congressman Scarborough had been involved in his intern's death. The
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Washington Post notes it is not an unsolved mystery, authorities
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: determined she lost consciousness from an abnormal heart rhythm and collapsed,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: striking her head. Sin. Yeah, people do die that way. Yeah,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that is a thing that happens.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this just it. It just sounds like
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: boomer nonsense. Yeah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, No one else gives a shit about Phil Griffin
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and Joe Scarborough.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no one else cares. Yeah, and why the fuck
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: would Joe Scarborough murder his intern? Yeah, it was his motivation, Yeah,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Gary Condit didn't even murder Chandra Levy, And I was
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: sure that was gonna be a thing. Number six late
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Scalia may have been.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Murdered if only Yeah, why would I don't understand. It's
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: so stupid for him to promote anything like this.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the thing he's talking about with the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: pillow on the face. Uh, it was weird that Scalia
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: died with a pillow on his face. But who fucking
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: knows how it happens. He could have been fucking flopping around,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and it felt like.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: It seems like if he was killed then something would
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: have happened. Yeah, something good would.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Have been, some benefits like it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Probably he probably like what they I want to make
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: sure the Scalia was twenty sixteen, right, Yeah, yeah, and
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: so they definitely would not have like Merrick Grland would
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: have been our Supreme Court justice if he if they
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: went to the trouble of murdering antonin Scalia, then we
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: would not have. Obama's the most ineffectual fucking president. He
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: does let shit happen. And the idea that he would
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: go to all the trouble of murdering a Supreme Court justice,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming it would be Obama who's.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Murdering him, like I'm guessing.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the idea that he would go to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that trouble and then not get his like chosen justice
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: onto the court is laughable. Yeah, it's again, it's insane.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: It's because conservatives are stupid, and that is.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: It, I feel like an important aspect of any conspiracy theory.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah did it, que bona do anything? Who benefits what happened? Yeah? Uh?
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Number seven, The deep state is trying to undermine or
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: oust him. He is the deep state. Yeah, and it
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: depends on what you mean by deep state. There was
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: they do bring up that New York Times op ed
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: where someone allegedly one of his staffers said, we are
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: trying to undermine the president. Sure, I mean because he's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: a fucking president that everyone hates. Yeah, and he's doing
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: bad things.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I think that's the key thing is if people are
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: trying to undermine him, it's just because they are conscious
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: citizens who are doing anything in their power to mitigate
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the damage being done by this person.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. Like he if he's referring to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: like intelligence agencies or things of the like, I want that, Yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Like I want if Trump is the crisis that he
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: seems to be. Yeah, I hope there are people within
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: intelligence who are like, how do we fucking fix that?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I mean we were like ideally they should be at
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: least somewhat what's the word, not like aggressive, but like
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: skeptical and like yeah, like that's why they don't, you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: get state Like they're not assigned to presidents like people
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: working in intelligence, and that those sorts of jobs are
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: go from administration to administration. And that's you know, as
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: we talked about last episode, that's like presumably the benefit
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of having that system is that you don't have people
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: who are loyal to one political party or the other.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: He probably just means that they didn't vote for him
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and they're not going to vote for him. I feel
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: like that's all he thinks about, and he considers that
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: undermining and not he thinks that. I think he believes
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: that every single government employee has to vote for him.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he definitely wants it that way. Like
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: he's definitely the type who wants some degree of loyalty
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to be embedded in the idea of getting a government
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: just yes, yeah, and that's antithetic to what those jobs
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, whether it comes to that or not,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: we'll see.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, that's the only, like, the
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: only thing I can say positively about Comy is he
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: like he fired him because he didn't want to take
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: a one didn't want to claim loyalty take it loyalty oath.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's good. You shouldn't do that, that's not proper.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: But you also could have held off on the Clinton.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it didn't have to happen two days before.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I am not looking to praise Comy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is not my intention. I'm just saying that
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: one instance, he was in the rights.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Finally, Wan Olivia agrees with vaccines can cause auts
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just fact. This is just just
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: solid science.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just common sense when you really think
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: about it. Why would you put a thing in your
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: body to make you not have that thing?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: A thousand YouTube videos aren't all gonna lie, no, obviously not,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: like the algorithm is pure, right, Yeah, this is so
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: fucking it's just I mean, do we even have like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: what give you to say about it's vaccines cause autism?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the arguments. You know why they're bad.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: You know why vaccines are good.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: We need it, We need vaccines or we haven't even
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: had measles recently.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the whole reason we have vaccines. It's called
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: her community. Fucking look it up. It's just it's just science.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: It's just fact.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh Number nine. Fuck this motherfuck Oh.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: He's the fucking worst, one of the worst people on
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the planet.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: The death toll from Hurricane Maria was inflated. Fuck fuck.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: The death toll from Hurricane Maria was suppressed. Yes, for
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: almost a fucking year. Yeah, like for the longest time,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we were told it was like sixty nine people niceactly,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: which that would have been nice, but it was it
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: was like nine to eleven it was nine to eleven numbers.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. It still hasn't recovered. It's still it's a nightmare.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: There's so many fucking political scam now to go along
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely ridiculous. If if I were Puerto Rican I
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: would want nothing.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: To do with this country.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: We have, we have been every all of our government's
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: actions towards Puerto Rico since that hurricane have been fucking reprehensible,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: like absolutely unconscionable.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: It makes me sick. I hate it. Yeah, it's pretty
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: fucking horrifying, and just another to fucking say that there's
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a conspiracy to make him look bad about the it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: all about He's such a fucking narcissist. He makes everything
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: about him. It's just disgusting.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I hate him. I mean, I you know, a fucking
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: bold like claim I hate Donald Trump, but I fucking
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: hate him.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: He's a terrible person. This was that, and what you
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: just said was his exact words, because this was a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: two part tweet, and the second part, after saying that
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the numbers were inflated, was this was done by the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Democrat in order to make me look as bad as
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: possible when I was successfully raising billions of dollars to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: help rebuild Puerto Rico. I lie, lie, lie lie. If
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a person died for any reason, like old age, just
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: add them onto the list. Fuck you, bad politics. I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: love Puerto Rico. Fuck you. And like the the death
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: toll obviously rose after the hurricane. Hurricanes don't work that way.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: It's like nuclear weapons don't work that way. They kill
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: some people immediately, and then there's after effects that lowly
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: kill people.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, yeah, all you would have to do
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: is look at a picture of Puerto Rico after the hurricane,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and you would know that people are dying in there.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: It's absolute hell on earth, like after a hurricane with
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: no assistance and no aid and nothing.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: That's how any Like, the only way that any Americans.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: He has ever recovered from hurricanes is because the federal
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: government stepped in and provided aid and provided utilities and
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you know, helped evacuate and helped get people the supplies
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: that they need and clear out the streets and fixed
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: buildings and all of that. And none of that was
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: done with Puerto Rico for purely racist, jingoistic reasons.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like gutless pieces of shit, all of them. Yeah,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it's another one of those things
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: where like I feel like we're being tested as a country,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and like this administration wants to know what we're willing
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to put up with before we really fucking take to
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the streets exactly, And it seems like we're willing to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: put up with almost anything.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And when people do take to the streets, it's either
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: in a very orderly and good like protests that serves
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the government interest, or it's like a few people.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, with Puerto Rico, like if people died in
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the aftermath, which they obviously did, a big part of
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that was because of our response or our laps absolutely response,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: which that's a huge fucking scandal. Yes, And the thing
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: is this country is so big, yeah, Like it's hard
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to organize a the kind of mass protests you see
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: in a place like France or Hong Kong, where the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: whole country can be like, we're coming.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Out that Puerto Rico thing, like the hurricane in Puerto
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Rico that was during that terrible hurricane season where also
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: there was also a devastating hurricane that hit Galveston, I'm
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: pretty sure, and the response to like it's just night
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and day the responses when you see how the government
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: responded to Galveston and Puerto Rico when they should have
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: responded equally or at least with comparable measures right when, like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: and especially considering Puerto Rico's size, it's so small that
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: the entire thing can just be completely devastated by a
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: storm like that.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nowhere to go. It's just an island. Yeah.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: So it's not like I mean, you know, Texas is Texas.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: If you can go away, you can leak right easily.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: It's just it's just absolutely horrible.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh so fuck that. Fuck that. Yes, that's ridiculous. Uh.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Speaking of ridiculous, Muslims are attempting to install sharia law
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: in the United States. No, they're not. No, they're not. No,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: they're not You're you're the president. Yeah, duh. It would
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: come to your desk at some point. Jesus Christ.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Also, for one thing, tree law isn't really that big
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of a deal. It's mostly just a moral code. It's
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: just a phrase that people use that conservatives use and
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: racists use to smear Muslims.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: It's not even technically a strictly defined thing. It's got
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: a series of rules that could apply and could be considered.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Suree a law, right guideline, that's all it is. Yeah,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and it's only ever used as a racist cudgel.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Uh And along those same lines, thousands of
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Muslims celebrated in the streets in nine to eleven. Here's
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: a thing a few might have but so fucking what. Yeah,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: it's a country. Yeah, supposedly you're you're kind of allowed
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to do that. But also this is just again, this
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: is one of those things. It's just nakedly racist. Right,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: there's just nothing like it's like, that's it, that's all
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: it is. He's a racist, And that was something that
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: was big and among racists after nine to eleven. I
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: saw that so many times. Yeah, all right, I feel
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: like we have landed on one that isn't the craziest suggestion.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is at least not the most unethical thing
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: that I've ever he and it's it's it's an example
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: of this argument that probably doesn't come from a racist place,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: even though it was talking about Ted Cruz. Definitely, Ted
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Cruz wasn't eligible to be president because he was born
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: in Canada. And the thing is, he was born in
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Canada to an American citizen. And the thing is it's
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: never been tested in court. Right.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Legal experts agree that it satisfies the Constitution's requirement for citizenship.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: But we just he has a double passport.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like he was, he spent I would believe,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: the majority of his life in the United States.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah. Also, yeah, it's it's so it's it's
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: one that someone could take to court and sure find out.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's there's there's definitely wiggle room there.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: That's something that the Constitution doesn't really take into account,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: the idea of double passports and that sort of thing.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: He also claimed the same thing about Marco Rubio, which
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't h he was born in the United States. Yeah,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: he's that's just pretty sure that and that's a that's
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: another case of someone who now is just such a
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Trump supporter.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Yep, it's totally he it's just pure like sick of fancy.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Uh number four Yeah, I think it sounds about right.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Uh man I neat, we are so many of them. Well,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: we had that big detour about Edwards, uh number fourteen.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Three to five million illegal votes in the twenty sixteen election,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: but none for Trump. This is he fucking started a
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: commission to look into this issue, and that commission, by
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: some fucking miracle, actually admitted that they didn't find anything,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: and he still carries on with this fucking argument.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: It was like, like this whole conspiracy theory was almost
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: his first act as president, right, was to start this
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: like narcissistic conspiracy theory.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was hinting at it before he got elected. Yeah,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that if he didn't win, he was maybe gonna contest
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the results. Yeah, And I do think that's what this
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: argument is building up to.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: What I speaking of conspiracy theories and Trump, I like
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: this is mine, Okay. I think the Russia thing is
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: he did, like use information from Russia. Uh, he just
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: wanted to get to the final He wanted to get
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: to election night and then lose so that he could
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: coast off of having lost and contesting the vote and
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: being a pain and just doing all this stuff. I
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: think that was his end goal, and he did not
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: expect to become president.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: The one thing, like when Trump got elected, we heard
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: all this stuff about he didn't want to be president,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the things along those lines. I think the one, the
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: one that rings true to me is neither he nor
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Russia thought he was gonna win. I don't think so.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I think he didn't.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: He didn't want to be president, but he also didn't
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: want to lose, right.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's just who he is, right, And I
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: think Russia thought they were doing what Russia does and
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: just sewing discord and getting Because there was a comedian
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was, so I'm sorry, but
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: he had a joke about Trump in the run up
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: to the election where he was like, Trump is like,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: if five of your friends are trying to figure out
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: what to eat for dinner, three of your friends vote pizza,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: two of your friends vote to eat you. He goes,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: even if pizza wins, there's still a huge problem. And
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: that was Trump. Like even if Trump lost, like him
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: getting that close was gonna be a problem.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: He had success, like his campaign had successfully like created
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: the like strengthened the massive divisions that were already in
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: place in our country and further divided them, and like
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: created this large gap between left and right that that
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: we're dealing with, and firmly cemented the right as being
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: openly and outwardly racist. And I like I said it
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: at the time, like even if Hillary Clinton won, we
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: were still going to be dealing with a lot of
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: the cultural things that we've been dealing with for the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: last few years.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. But yeah, so yeah, that's just
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: my I.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Think the I think it's literally just that he didn't
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: want to win, but he also really didn't want to lose.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that fucked him. I think the closer he got,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I think I think up to I do think he
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: didn't think he was gonna win.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I absolutely don't think he was gonna win. I don't
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: think he thought he was gonna win.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: He was like yeah, so yeah, uh Number fifteen Obama
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: wire tapped Trump Tower. Here's the thing. I hope so
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: sure like that we have sixteen fucking intelligence agencies, but
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: also I hope one of them wire tapped Trump Tower
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: during the fucking twenty sixteen election. Yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: If so, they weren't doing their non job, like the yeah,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: the supposed job.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah uh yeah.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I mean this is just stupid, Like he wouldn't know
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: about it for one thing, if it happened, because how's
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: he gonna know.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Right, And it's the the thing like this Washington Post
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: article mentions there's no evidence that Trump Tower was wire tapped. Well,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: there wouldn't be is Well, that's not how wire tapping
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: is supposed to work exactly.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Is Is this the most insecure that any president has
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: ever started, like from day one? Just absolute projecting total insecurity? Yeah,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I think so, more than anything else. That's the five
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I've always gotten from him.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's insecurity but also kind of a victim.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Come absolutely those go hand in hand. Yeah yeah, uh
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Number sixteen, global warming is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese. Okay, buddy,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: that shock.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Jesse Ventura believes the same thing, but about al Gore,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: like he's Oaks perpetrated by the Chinese. No, He's got
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: an episode of his conspiracy show where he talks about
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: how global warming is just a way for who named
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: for people like every I love everyone on this network
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: as a Jess venture impression, Yeah, I've never tried it
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: out before. It was not bad, and his that whole
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: episode is about how al Gore is going to make
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: all this money off of global warming and how it's
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: really just a hoax and sure, yeah I bet al
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Gore's rolling. Jesse Venturer knows how to straddle a line.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: That guy, he's a card, he has a character. The
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: thing that keeps Esse Venture of fun is that he
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: never tried to run for president. Yeah. Our last episode
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: on Pops was called Jesse Ventura for President because oh yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: someone suggested it. I mean, hey, it's not outside the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: row of possibility. It could happen. Number seventeen, a man
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: who charged the stage at a Trump rally had Islamic
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: state ties. Fuck you, I mean, no US government agency
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: has ever tied this person, yeah, to Isis or Islamic State.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: He's just racist. And apparently Chuck Todd pushed Trump on this,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: which is shocking because Chuck Todd doesn't push Trump on anything.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: And uh, Trump kind of walked back what he said,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: but not really. He said he was playing Arabic music,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: he was dragging the flag along the ground, and he
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: had internet chatter with Isis and about ISIS. So I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: don't know if he was or not.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, okay, what everbody, Oh my god, it's just
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: what we just got president.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: He also added, what do I know about it? All
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I know is what's on the internet. That is potentially
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the most terrifying thing he has said as president.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Oh my god, I mean it, He says that
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: often it's not just the Internet.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: He also is like, I just hear it on the news. Yeah,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: it's like you're the president. Yeah, people come to you
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: every morning and tell you everything. You're supposed to be
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: the one who doesn't just get it from the internet. Yeah. Ah,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: that is fucking horrifying. All I know is what's on
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the internet. Man, We're doomed. Yep. Well, speaking of number eighteen,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: the white genocide of South African, I did someone actually
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: canceled the Patreon over this, and I know they canceled
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: their subscription over it because in their exit survey it said,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not supporting a racist because I did an episode
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: about South Africa and what's happening there, and no, white
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: farmers are not being murdered for their land. And it's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: a situation where the land in question was stolen under
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: apartime and their argument is now, well, we stole it
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: so long ago, it's ours now.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: That's how rich people white like, that's how white people
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: have land in South Africa.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: That is how it happens. And for the longest time,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the government, the government has had all these programs in
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: place where they're like, look, we'll buy it back. You
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: can still have some of your land. You just can't
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: have all the land you stole in the sixties or whatever. Exactly,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: not even that long ago. It happened in the fucking
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: fifteen hundred. It wasn't a Dutch colony. Beetles were on
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the radio when you stole this land, and like, there
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: have been all these programs to allow them to sell
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: it back, and no one has wanted to sell it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: And now they're getting to the point where they're like, look,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: we might have to take it if you don't want
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: to make things right. It's not yours. Yeah, you got
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: it through incredibly fucked up means. Guys, how about chill?
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Why are you drawing so much attention to your genocidal past?
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: That seems weird? It really does.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Oh man, you know what genocide means, right, Like that's
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: what you guys did. Yeah, like this is this is payment.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: It was brutal.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: You're lucky that you're Honestly, if they were killing the
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: white farmers, I still wouldn't really not be on their side.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't like I prefer that that not how things get.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Obviously, am glad that people aren't being murdered, right, Like
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: if they have every right to.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Honestly, it's a war.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: You're colonists, Yeah, who came to this continent and enslaved
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the people, murdered them, and destroyed their cold, replaced it
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: with your own, then said you were there already and
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: that you.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Were originally there.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: And now you're still trying to claim even after you
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: were deposed, you're still trying to claim that it's your shit.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: No, man, that's not how that works. Yeah, you gotta
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: give that shit up. Yeah, that's how wars end. So
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: you give up the land you claimed.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: And anyone who says white genocide is a fucking racist. Yeah, sorry, guys,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: uh number nineteen. It might not be his voice on
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the Access Hollywood tape.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Like we need just to ask Billy Bush he was there,
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: we'd ask the woman who was in the room as well.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Now, if Billy Bush dies in prison, then we're gonna
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: have some fucking questions be wild. But until then, someone
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: just pulled Billy Bush aside and go, hey, was that
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Trump on that tape? And he'll go, yeah, yeah, it
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: was a good Billy Bush a press thank you? Yeah,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: uh sure was so get the fuck out of here.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: That was you on that tape. But I feel like
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: this is where we're headed with deep fakes.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, like oh absolutely that Just like if people
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: were on the fence about whether or not they should
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: use deep fakes, that whole incident just convinced them like,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: oh we can. We can just say whatever we want
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: and people believe it, like as long as we make
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: it kind of sound good. And that's why you see
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: that Tom Cruise video. Bill Hayter Tom Cruise video that
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: was terrifying.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are there's there's a few out there, like
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I I like, there's one. There's one where they put Trump.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Uh they it's Alec bald when doing his Trump yeah impersonation.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: But the video is Trump at a rally and it
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: looks so fucking real.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I like in the ones that I'd seen in the
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: past were very good, but we're it was still possible
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: to see the seams, but like that was just young
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise sitting in that fucking chair.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It moved, he moved like him.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: He looked like it, like he had the same micro
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: facial expressions like like the like his weird like smile
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: and shit like it was. That's if you haven't seen
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: that video, that Bill Hayter, Tom Cruise, like, I don't
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: this channel, does this YouTube channel?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Does them? Like? Which stop? Yeah? No, I know, but
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: like and like it's just insane. It blows my mind
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: that we know so much about deep fakes now, which
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: that's the thing I know a lot because it's the
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: thing I look into. But the fact that we know
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: those are coming down the pike and we're also so
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: many of us are using face app, Yeah, and just
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: giving all of our photos to some shady stop using
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Russian government. Oh really, stopped using app? Like that's what
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: shit like that. That's how deep fakes work. They only
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: look a couple of pictures, thousands, like they can it
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: can be only a couple. But the more the merrier,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: like how machine learning works, the more pictures they have
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: of you, especially older pictures, like like, we are entering
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: an age where there's gonna be videos out there of
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: people doing really bad things and we're gonna have no idea.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: And it's the most terrifying thing about deep fakes is
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how educated people are about deep fakes,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: because first of all, knowing that they exist is already
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: on the step to planting the seeds of misinformation, Like
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: just having that doubt in the back of your mind
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: is enough. And even if you know that they exist,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: that does there's still it's gonna get harder and harder
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: to verify whether it's the case. So even if you're
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: looking for a deep fake, that's just going to lead
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: you to mistrusting actual video, which.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Is right, that's the goal, that's the goal is. It
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter the videos.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think the videos themselves are going to be
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: anything that people are really like caring about too much. Yeah,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: on the whole, it's just going to be enough misinformation.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: And we're already experiencing that with just regular misinformation with
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: bots and propaganda. Yeah, and like white supremacist online recruiting
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: in these things, Like it's just gonna get worse.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Immerse it. Yeah, it's it's gonna get so much worse.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what we do about it. It's
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's nothing. I don't think
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: there's an answer.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: That's the scariest part. I don't think there's anything to
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: be done. Yeah, except like unless we all decided to
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: log off of the Internet forever.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: That is kind of what we need. But like or
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: at least social media. But how are we ever gonna
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: do that?
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: You know, like that's never You're never gonna get one
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: hundred percent of the people on the planet to do that, Yeah,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: to do anything.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. I've been saying for a long time
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: that I think if the p tape is real, that's
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be the defense when it comes is that it's like, absolutely,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: it'll come out after deep fakes are well known enough
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: that Trump can just literally get in front of his
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: rally audience and go deep fake. Yeah, oh I can.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I've definitely thought about him saying the word Steve fake.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Ever again, Uh, the only reason he didn't say it
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: for the Excess Hollywood tape is it it wasn't really
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: a popularized.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Term at the time. Yeah, and there's no well there's
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: sort of video, but but I mean, it's not just
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: to ask Billy Bush, Like I've heard Billy Bush as
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: a willing collaborator in.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: The FU you heard the vocal deep fakes because those
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: are terrifying too. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's really
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: really scary scary stuff.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Bad World Number twenty. General Pershing executed Muslim terrorists with
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: blood tipped bullets.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: This is uh, you know what, I that might be true. Yeah,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: this might be the least crazy one. Right, the American
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: military has done some depraved shit.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's the thing is this has been
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: a long running story, yeah or myth, I guess they
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: call it. And Washington Post points out that it's not
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: there's no evidence of it. But now there's no evidence
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: of a lot of shit.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people didn't even think that
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: there were atrocities going on in Rack until fucking Avu
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Grabe came out.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they say this is a baseless anti Muslim
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: story that has circulated for years on the internet. Is
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: who's General Pershing?
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Is he not an American general? I could be totally wrong,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: but I definitely could see Americans doing that shit. That
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem like also it's anti Muslim in the sense
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: that it feels like he's saying that too.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a senior United States Army officer, So
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I thought.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Like, it doesn't seem like he's saying that is a
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: bad thing about General Pershing, Right, he's saying it is
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: like check out what this badass did. Yeah, he shot
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: fifty Muslims with pig's blood bullets.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get the how is this an anti
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Muslim story? This sounds like an anti it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Is anti Muslim in that it. Oh yeah, he is
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: praising racism against Muslims. Yeah, but like it's also I mean,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: if you look at it as a rational feeling human being,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: then you see it as an anti military.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Still, right, Yeah, and it might be Yeah, it's weird.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: To just totally write it off as anti Muslim.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: It might be baseless. There might not be evidence.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: This also happened a long time ago, so, like, you know,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: who knows what evidence is out there? And the military,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard, they've got this whole
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: brotherhood thing, but they don't like to talk about what
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: happens in the military, right, so, and especially not what
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: they're superior officers get up to. And he was a general, right,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: which is a pretty superior officer.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're probably not gonna tell he probably did it.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: That honestly might be the most plausible theory. Yeah, I
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: have no reason to believe that that is. How is
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: that impossible?
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: But where did they get the pigs blood? Oh? You
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: know what, good point. It's hard to find pigs. Well,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: it's not hard to find pigs, but if you're in
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: a region that's that anti pork. But pigs still exists,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I hope. But are they growing them and breeding them there?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be that hard. It's just
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: gonna thirty faral hogs.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Show might be thirty to fIF Maybe that's the faral hogs.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe John Jay Pershing killed the faral hogs.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Could be don't get me started on the Farrell hogs.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I mean that guy had a decent point. If you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: look into the faral hog issue in Arkansas. Oh my god,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: they have a faral hog Eradication task Force. Yeah, it
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't It doesn't mean he needs an ar fist. He's
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: not a very good gun control He could try a face.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I think first the problem.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Is the gun control aspect. And yeah, how about the fence, buddy, Yeah,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: how about the wall? You like walls so much?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: But it also would have been a decent avenue to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: like have a discussion with someone like that. And uh no,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: but it was. It was extremely funny. It was sure,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: just the freezing of it. Uh speaking of funny, when
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: farms caused cancer, that's number twenty one which Yeah, I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: did a whole episode on this. We know why this happened,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: and this is because Trump had a dispute when he
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: was building his golf course in Scotland. They put some
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: wind farms offshore where you could still see them from
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: his golf course. He's hated wind farms ever since, and
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: he has been very like the number of times he's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: tweeted about wind farms will blow your fucking mind. Yeah,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: it's definitely what is And I think that that's kind
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: of the fun.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Like the weird thing about Trump talking about conspiracy theories
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: is a lot of the time, like with this one.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: When he talks about a conspiracy theory, there is a conspiracy.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: It's him conspiring to bring down whatever he's talking about, right,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: like he does he wants to discredit windmills, and so
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: he's talking about how windmills give people cancer, which is
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, different or the NFL, which refused to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: have him as an owner before he was he's resident.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: He doesn't give a shit about patriots.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: He lost a lawsuit, a very famous lawsuit to the NFL. Well,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: he won, but the judge awarded him a dollar in damages. Yeah,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: so he basically lost. He's the pettiest human being alive. Uh.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: And he also goes on ti raids about how many
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: birds wind farms kill, like he cares and the hole kills. Yeah,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: definitely more birds, like like Department of Agriculture guy, probably
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: kills more birds. Yeah, wind farts like like. The danger
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: of asbestos is a con pushed by the mafia. What
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: one of the greatest cons is asbestos? Trump told New
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: York Magazine in nineteen ninety two. There's nothing wrong except
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: the mob has a strong lobby in Albany because they
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: have the dumps and control the truck. Sure, buddy. Meanwhile,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the World Health Organization says one hundred thousand people die
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: annually from asbestos.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: He was sure pissed about having to pay for is
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: BESTUS removal from his properties?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Probably yeah, well that's almost certainly what it would be.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: And like Johnson and jo Johnson lawsuit, that's happening. Now,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: have you heard about that? I haven't. It turns out
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: talcum is mined right next to asbestos, and since the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: seventies women have been applying asbestos laced talcum powder to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: their couters for decades and decades and decades and now
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: like we've recently found out it's been causing cancer this
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: whole fucking time because it contains asbestos. And it's this huge,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: huge lawsuit that's just not getting that much attention. Like
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: all they've the damages, it's like billions in damages Johnson
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: and Johnson has had to pay. And it's because apparently
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: talcum and asbestos are mined right next to each other.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, and it's been it's been giving people like, uh, yes,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: cervical cervical cancer. Well, but this mafia thing is stupid. Yeah,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: but at least the Saudi Prince does co own Fox News.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: That's number twenty three? Uh is that that doesn't seem true?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, not to my knowledge, he's not.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Uh he owned the guy he was tweeting about, Prince A. L.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Walid bin Tallal was not a Fox News co owner.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: He owned a small share of twenty first century Fox
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: through his investment company. Sure that is not the same thing.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Nope, not at all, not even Uh And I wonder
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: what was going on that day, Yeah, that Trump was
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: mad enough at Fox News to tweet that.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when did that? When did that come out. It doesn't.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: That's the one where it doesn't really give a date.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: M was that before or after presidency? Because he's like
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: he's all on the Saudi Arabia.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Train right now twenty fourteen. Yeah, it looks like it.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, he wasn't running for president,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: so he probably didn't give a shit what Fox News said.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: He's just yelling at the.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: TV like an angry boomer ow Trump and now he
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: only does that about things that affect him. Uh yeah,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know this doesn't seem true. I mean
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: there's lots of things like that's the thing. There's lots
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: of things you could fucking smear the Saudis with. They're
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: not good. It's a bad government. They're a very bad government,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: like it does one y and like. But we support
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: them nonetheless.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Of course they're our.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Best friends, even though they did nine to eleven.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, a majority of the hijackers were Saudis. Yeah, that's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: another thing I always point people to when they just
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: kind of discredit the idea of conspiracy theories. Oh yeah,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I always yeah, the same because the for a long time,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: the nine to eleven report, there were those twenty six
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: redacted pages and people are like, you know, what's in
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: there proof that Saudi Arabia was involved in nine to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: eleven And people are like, okay, whatever, and then they
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: unredacted those pages and Yep, that's exactly what he's in there. Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: And also like even like at its most basic level,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the nine to eleven is a perfect example of a conspiracy.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: It's a bunch of people who got together and made
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: a plan to do to do a thing, and they
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: did it, and that is the conspiracy they did it.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Like even with without larger machinations, it's like, that's still
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: a conspiracy.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we had one, like one or
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: two on the list that I think the general person.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I think General Pershing definitely uh desecrated those Muslim people's bodies.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: That seems absolutely within the realm of what a what
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: a US military.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Olivia believes vaccines cause autists.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Obviously, I mean we all know, and obviously being autistic
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: is way worse than dying easels.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think we can all agree on that. Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's just kind of the General Pershing thing
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: is the only one and we we we.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Also Dad was like in the neighborhood Cruise's dad was
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Ed Edwards the Zodiac.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Oh ship, Jimmy Hoffa what if ted ed ed Words?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Oh no, putting that new soundboard to use. Uh so
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: that's our episode. Trump's a fucking maniac. He's a terrible person,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: and I feel coming from someone who believes a fair
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: share of conspiracy theories, Yeah, well that's our episode. Good times,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: awesome times. Just what a great world in country that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: we like, fun, fun time. The past two episodes that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: we've recorded have been been along couple of weeks. Feels good,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: feels like we're headed for something special.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, definitely, we're definitely heading for something real special. Man,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't fucking say that. They'll think that we're talking about.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Fucking mass shooting it. Yeah, I mean the country feels
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: like it's headed in a bat. Nope, I don't listen.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Everything's fine, America's great. You made it, And I'm gonna
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: say everything sucks. Yeah, it's the worst.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: We're probably not gonna make it for very long.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we probably won't even I don't know what we're
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: worried about. We wanted to think we got country by
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the time this coms, we yet twenty years Max on
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: the planet as a species.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you read the Atlantic piece about the anthroposcene
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: era and the folly of mankind? No, it's basically just like,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: there's this thing called the nthroposyn era. It's where it's
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: where humans live. It's our time, but like that's nothing
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: in geologic time. And oh yeah, it's like a blink
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: of an eye. And the whole article is just like
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: enforcing it's just like, yeah, no, none of this matters.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Calling it nanthroposy is selfish and self involved. Yeah, so yeah,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: it's all great. Everything's good, everything great.
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• 1:09:29
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• 1:09:32
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• 1:09:38
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• 1:09:40
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• 1:09:43
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• 1:09:47
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