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S6 E23 Buried Alive The Michelina Lewandowski Case Part 1 · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to True Crime and One Time. I'm Terry and
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  Speaker 1: I'm Mama. Tonight we are uncorking the truth one of
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  Speaker 1: the darkest crimes and breaking it down together with you.
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  Speaker 1: So let's take a sip and dive in. Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: beautiful lady.
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  Speaker 2: How are you good? Are you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean? I would say it seems like I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen you in forever, but I saw you today when
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  Speaker 2: But you look different, But I look a little bit
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  Speaker 2: all the humidity we've had. But yes, hie the same here.
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  Speaker 1: I made the decision for the graduation in Houston this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly, well, Hello, every Hello lady and Gray.
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  Speaker 2: Buckle up for another crazy case with Terry and Lama.
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  Speaker 2: This is a wild one that we'll be covering tonight,
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  Speaker 2: which we'll talk about.
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  Speaker 1: This one is a nightmare for me.
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  Speaker 2: thank you lady, and Gray per saying we've both looked.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you later, I know.
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  Speaker 1: we're covering tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Sure? So tonight we will be covering the case of
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  Speaker 2: quite frankly, a terrifying case of Michelina Lundowscot, the woman
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  Speaker 2: who survived after her fiance buried her alive in a
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  Speaker 2: remote woodland grave like ooh no, thank you, and what
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  Speaker 2: began as a controlling relationship soon spiraled into a calculated
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  Speaker 2: murder plot involving tape a box and a shallow grave.
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  Speaker 2: But against all impossible odds, Michelina crawled her way back
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  Speaker 2: to the surface and lived to tell the story. And
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  Speaker 2: it is quite a story, indeed. But before we get
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  Speaker 2: into that, what are you drinking tonight, Terry?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Tonight, I decided to go classic and I'm having
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  Speaker 1: a slightly dirty tito smartini made by my wonderful double
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  Speaker 1: h Well.
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  Speaker 2: I love that for you. I am drinking still winking out.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same kind I had last week. Budge elbow
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  Speaker 2: Feet has been out of town. I had to save
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  Speaker 2: a bottle for tonight, so next week I'll have something different,
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  Speaker 2: but it is winking out. It's a mescato. It's on
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  Speaker 2: the much cheaper end, but it's quite delicious. I've enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: I've enjoyed it because I had four bottles of it.
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  Speaker 1: So question about moscato. Because reds in normal whites like
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  Speaker 1: seven yon blanc, you can leave them open and let
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  Speaker 1: them air out if they're cheaper, and by letting it
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  Speaker 1: air out, it matures it, so it tastes like a
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  Speaker 1: little bit pricier wine, like two butt chuck from Trader's Joe's.
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  Speaker 1: If you leave their red cap open for about four
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  Speaker 1: hours in drink it. I did a taste test once
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  Speaker 1: with people. It got picked to be a higher price wine.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody guessed it was the two butt chuck. So I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know if moscato, because it's so sweet, if it
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  Speaker 1: would be the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I guess maybe, but I don't know. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 2: usually like Savagnon blanc or peanut grazio is my preferred
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  Speaker 2: more than than reasoning mesconos. Well, no, Chardenay's at the end,
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  Speaker 2: I cannot do Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I call Shardnay the starter wine. It tastes like wood
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to eat wood. People. I did
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  Speaker 1: that as a child. I don't want to do it anymore.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of sharing. That's a lot of sharing.
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  Speaker 2: Well with that, uh, let's get into the story of
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  Speaker 2: Tonight's case, shall we.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to just warn you there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of triggers for me in this episode, because this episode
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  Speaker 1: crawls straight into one of my deepest, most visceral fears,
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  Speaker 1: the kind that sits in the back of your mind
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  Speaker 1: in whispers when the lights go out and you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to sleep. And I've said it before and I'll say
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  Speaker 1: it again. I want to be cremated, not for tradition,
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  Speaker 1: not for simplicity, but because the idea of being sealed
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  Speaker 1: inside a box and lowered into the earth, buried beneath
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  Speaker 1: layers of dirt with no way out. No yep, it's
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  Speaker 1: the kind of thought that grips my chest and doesn't
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  Speaker 1: let go. But for the woman in Tonight's story, this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a late night intrusive thought. It was reality.
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  Speaker 2: Those are also my greatest fears too. I don't like
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  Speaker 2: the idea at all. I hate it well, you guys.
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  Speaker 2: On Saturday in May twenty eighth, twenty and eleven, just
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  Speaker 2: before midnight, a man named Dan Broccoli and yes that
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  Speaker 2: is his real name, was driving along a quiet, desolate
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  Speaker 2: stretch of road near the Woodsoon Hall golf Club in Huddersville, England.
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  Speaker 2: The night was perfectly still. Then, without warning, a figure
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  Speaker 2: stumbled out from the tree line. She emerged from the
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  Speaker 2: pitch black woods and collapsed into the road directly and
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  Speaker 2: did Dan's path.
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  Speaker 1: Another fear of mine, somebody coming out of the woods
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  Speaker 1: like that and just collapsing. Yes, yeah, he's slaved on
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  Speaker 1: his breaks. The car jerked to a violent stop as
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  Speaker 1: adrenaline flooded his system. Before he could even wrap his
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  Speaker 1: head around what he was seeing, the woman rushed towards
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  Speaker 1: the passenger's side. She was frantics. Her hands were shaking
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  Speaker 1: uncontrollably as she clawed up the handle, begging him to
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  Speaker 1: unlock the door.
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  Speaker 2: Now, even in the dim glow of the dashboard, the
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  Speaker 2: sight of horror was haunting. She was disheveled, covered in
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  Speaker 2: the earth, and vibrating with a primal kind of terror.
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  Speaker 2: The moment she scrambled inside, she gasped out her name, Michelina,
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  Speaker 2: and then she told him the impossible. She told him
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  Speaker 2: she had just escaped from being buried alive.
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  Speaker 1: How horrific for her. But can you imagine him hearing that?
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  Speaker 2: Nope, because no, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: My brain wouldn't be able to wrap my head around
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  Speaker 1: it now. Mission Alina Luandowska's life didn't begin in the dirt.
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  Speaker 1: It started in Poland in nineteen eighty four, within the
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  Speaker 1: safety of a close knit family. She was the middle
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  Speaker 1: of three daughters, A woman described as warmth personified. She
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  Speaker 1: didn't demand the spotlight, but she hold it effortlessly with
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  Speaker 1: a kindness that felt rare. She looked like her mother,
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  Speaker 1: but more than that, she carried her mother's quiet strength.
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  Speaker 2: Our childhood was a predictable life of Polish tradition, stable, bright,
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  Speaker 2: and utterly normal. There was no foreshadowing, no dark clouds
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  Speaker 2: on the horizon to warn her that this peaceful beginning
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  Speaker 2: would end in a home in the woods.
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  Speaker 1: So once again I have to laugh, because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's our beautiful Lama, our beautiful Amos who
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  Speaker 1: puts the headings meeting the asshole.
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  Speaker 2: Would be me. It would be me. It's always me.
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  Speaker 1: At twenty one years old, Michelina walked into a local
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  Speaker 1: coffee shop and met nineteen year old Marson Carsprezek. It
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  Speaker 1: was one of those lightning strike moments. Their connection was immediate,
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  Speaker 1: the kind of electric spark that blinds you to everything
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  Speaker 1: else in the room. It kind of felt like destiny.
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  Speaker 1: But beneath the surface, Marson was a different creature entirely.
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  Speaker 2: He was an only child raised in a vacuum of intense,
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  Speaker 2: suffocating perfection. He was the son his mother orbited, a
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  Speaker 2: mama's boy in the most dangerous sense of the term.
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  Speaker 2: He grew up an environment where boundaries were non existent
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  Speaker 2: and accountability was a foreign concept, and as we see
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  Speaker 2: often in these cases, those childhood roots eventually grow into
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  Speaker 2: very twisted adult branches.
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  Speaker 1: That is not setting your child up for success. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to just go on the record and say that
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  Speaker 1: right now, boundaries are what kids need and they crave,
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  Speaker 1: even if they don't realize it exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of my little lam over here, I would also
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  Speaker 2: agree that mam alone does set boundaries. That's right. And
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  Speaker 2: accountability it's uh, it's not that hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's necessary. It's necessary now. When Michelina finally introduced him
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  Speaker 1: to her parents, the atmosphere was very cold. Some people
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  Speaker 1: carry a tell to their soul, and her parents felt
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  Speaker 1: at the moment he walked through the door, his ore
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  Speaker 1: was back. Is what that says, guys. Her mother saw
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  Speaker 1: the way he wouldn't hold eye contact and how he
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  Speaker 1: seemed to drift through conversations as if he was a
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  Speaker 1: ghost in his own life. Her father's reaction was even
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  Speaker 1: more visceral. He had a heavy gut feeling that this
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  Speaker 1: man was a predator in waiting. But Michelina was consumed
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  Speaker 1: by the flame. She was blind. I mean, ye, we've
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  Speaker 1: all been there.
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  Speaker 2: We've all been there, We've all been there.
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  Speaker 1: That's excited, And if you haven't, I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you, because we've all been there.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, when you're in that deep in a bright love,
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  Speaker 2: the warnings of others just sound like static. You don't
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  Speaker 2: want to hear it. They just don't know him that well.
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  Speaker 1: They just don't know him. They don't understand your connection.
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  Speaker 2: And she didn't see the monster her parents saw. She
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  Speaker 2: saw a future with him, and in choosing him, she
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  Speaker 2: unknowingly stepped onto the path that led straight to the
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  Speaker 2: woods in Huddersville.
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  Speaker 1: Their engagement came fast, barely a year into the relationship,
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  Speaker 1: shortly after the pair made the pivotal choice to abandon
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  Speaker 1: their life in Poland for the United Kingdom. It was
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  Speaker 1: the exact opposite of what her parents and I want okay,
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  Speaker 1: In fact, it was their worst fear.
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  Speaker 2: But Mischellina's parents were smart enough to know the stakes.
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  Speaker 2: They knew that if they pushed too hard or screamed
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  Speaker 2: too loud, they'd only succeed in driving her further into
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  Speaker 2: his arms. So they did the hardest thing a parent
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  Speaker 2: can do. They swallowed their instincts, buried their dread, and
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  Speaker 2: stood by her. They watched her leave, praying in the
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  Speaker 2: silence that their gut feeling were just a trick of
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  Speaker 2: the mind, and that's what you kind of have to do,
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  Speaker 2: though I.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I just get ready to tell you, just wait,
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  Speaker 1: little Lama is still young. The hardest thing is when
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  Speaker 1: they grow up and they leave the nest, letting them
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  Speaker 1: make their own mistakes, when you can see the writing
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  Speaker 1: all over the wall and you want so hard to
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  Speaker 1: prevent them from making the mistakes you've made.
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  Speaker 2: Hard basically hudbanging to that comment, and I like it's
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  Speaker 2: it's very hard, But they're right because if you are,
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  Speaker 2: if you do too much, you're just pushing them into
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  Speaker 2: even if it's your friend. I've had friendships that are
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: I know, okay, Katie forty six the hormones lie to you, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And I said, hormones Okay, guys, it's a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. It's very clever.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry that just I hope y'all didn't hear that. That
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  Speaker 1: was loud. My tummy growled because I haven't eaten yet,
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  Speaker 1: and it went rare. When Michelina landed in Northern England,
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't just exploring a new country. She was stepping
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  Speaker 1: into a trap. Marson's family had already been established there
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  Speaker 1: for years, meaning she wasn't building a life with him
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  Speaker 1: so much as she was being absorbed into his existing world.
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  Speaker 1: They moved into his parents' house, and they were under
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  Speaker 1: their roof and under their rolls. Their influence was constant,
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  Speaker 1: a suffocating presence that never allowed her room to breathe.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine a mama's boy and you move into
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  Speaker 1: the house? Is his significant other?
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  Speaker 2: No? I know? Thank you now. Marson took a job
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  Speaker 2: at a local meet, disappearing into the mechanical drone of
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  Speaker 2: the shift work, while Michelina, ever the fighter, was doing
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  Speaker 2: her very best to carve out her own space. She
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  Speaker 2: began working from home as a seamstress and painstakingly building
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  Speaker 2: her own income stitch by stitch. It was a small
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  Speaker 2: pocket of independence in an increasingly claustrophobic environment.
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  Speaker 1: To any outsider, they were just another young couple finding
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  Speaker 1: their footing in a new land. But the foundation was
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  Speaker 1: already beginning to crack. And then, two years after they arrived,
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  Speaker 1: the world shifted in a way that should have been
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  Speaker 1: a blessing, but instead it set the clock ticking on
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  Speaker 1: a tragedy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, in April two thousand and eight, their son was born.
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  Speaker 2: For a brief window, it felt like a fresh art,
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  Speaker 2: a reason to finally study the chao Us. And their
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  Speaker 2: relationship had always been a volatile roller coaster, but Michelina
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  Speaker 2: let herself hope that this was the turning point, that
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  Speaker 2: the shared gravity of parenthood would pull them together. But
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  Speaker 2: hope is a very fragile thing, and it doesn't always
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  Speaker 2: have the power to rewrite a dark reality, and so
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  Speaker 2: the instability grew heavier and the lows became harder to
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  Speaker 2: recover from. Like, if you're going to have a kid
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  Speaker 2: with somebody and your relationship is not good, it is
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  Speaker 2: not going to get better.
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  Speaker 1: At us to say I have had friends that back
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  Speaker 1: when we're younger, Like, no, we're just I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: try to get pregnant because it'll fix our marriage. We
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  Speaker 1: don't need marriage counseling. And I'm always like I've been there.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way kind of or it didn't
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  Speaker 1: work that way for me, Maybe it'll work that way
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  Speaker 1: way for you, because it doesn't fix things.
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  Speaker 2: Now in the first few years of raising a child,
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  Speaker 2: is how good your relationship is. It is stressful on
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  Speaker 2: every relationship in some way, you know, so if you're
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  Speaker 2: already having problems, it's it's not gonna rain things.
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  Speaker 1: Better agreed now. Not long after the birth, their engagement
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  Speaker 1: was officially called off. On paper, that should have been
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  Speaker 1: the end, a nice clean break, but real life, especially
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  Speaker 1: when toxic, rarely follows clean lines. Instead of a departure,
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  Speaker 1: they entered into a never ending, jagged circle. They would
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  Speaker 1: break up. They can get back together over and over.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've all been on that merry go round,
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  Speaker 1: or at least I have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I am for sure. It's a learning experience.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't you're young.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's something that a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately do go through. It's very relatable, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to do it because you've got a kid together.
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  Speaker 1: Because you've got a kid, you want them to have
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  Speaker 1: parents that are still together.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, guilt And it was a repetitive, exhausting loop,
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  Speaker 3: as if neither of them possessed the strength to fully leave,
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  Speaker 3: and neither had the peace to fully stay.
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  Speaker 2: And it is a pattern we see far too often.
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  Speaker 2: Emotions run white hots, and the history has a cool
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  Speaker 2: way of dragging people back into familiar spaces. Even when
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  Speaker 2: those spaces are poisonous.
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  Speaker 1: In their case, there was no distance to facilitate a break.
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  Speaker 1: They were still trapped under the same roof in his
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  Speaker 1: parents' house. Guys, that to me sounds as bad as
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  Speaker 1: being put in a hole and buried alive.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's basically like that. I mean a different country.
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  Speaker 1: She's in a different country. She doesn't have her own supports. This,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it just sounds like a lot. Every shared
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  Speaker 1: hallway and every morning routine forced them to orbit one another.
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  Speaker 1: There was no sanctuary, there was no clean exit, and Guys,
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  Speaker 1: there was no room for Michelina to rebuild herself independently.
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  Speaker 1: She was trapped.
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  Speaker 2: There was also the cold, hard reality that Mischelina lacks
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  Speaker 2: the financial means to take her son and start over
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  Speaker 2: in a foreign country. Like so many other women in
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  Speaker 2: abusive situations, she was physically tied to the very environment
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  Speaker 2: that was breaking her.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought of this. Do you think that's why
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to move there so he could have total
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  Speaker 1: control and isolate her.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was marsa about her or
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  Speaker 2: he just wanted mommy and daddy.
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  Speaker 1: And mommy and daddy and she didn't get mine, And.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he really saw her in that way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he planned on control. I mean I personally
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  Speaker 2: think he sees her as an object. But I think
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  Speaker 2: his reason for going back is because of Mommy and Daddy.
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  Speaker 1: So but it wasn't just the money. Michelina was still
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  Speaker 1: mourning the ghost of what she had hoped they could be.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Even in the wreckage, she clung to the idea they
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: would eventually find their way back to something whole. She
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: continued to wear her engagement ring, not out of habit,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: but as a silent, desperate promise to herself that she
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: wasn't done believing in them.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Now. While Michelina was holding on to the past, Marsin
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: was transforming into something else entirely. Marson's obsession with his
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: own image took a dark time when he became deeply
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: involved in bodybuilding. But it wasn't this healthy pursuit of fitness.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: It became a total consumption of his identity.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my comments to myself. The gym wasn't
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: just a place he visited a few times a week.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: It became a sanctuary, his church in his mirror, every
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: spare hour and every ounce of his energy were poured
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: into sculpting aversion of himself that felt powerful. Then he
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: went a step farther.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So to bypass the slow grind of discipline, Marson started
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: using steroids. Now, these substances are designed to hijack the body,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: forcing muscle growth and recovery far behind natural limit. And
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: not only do they rewrite your physique, they can also
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: rewrite your brain's chemistry.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: If you've never known someone who's done steroids, you can
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: see the change in them. You can they breed a
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: specific kind of mental instability where the line between frustration
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and explosive violence just simply disappears. Most people have heard
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: or know the term roid rage, but guys, it isn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: just a gym culture cliche.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: So while he was at the gym, chasing progress, chasing stairs,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and chasing his own ego, Misterlina was left in the
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: wreckage of their reality. She was the wine, carrying the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: crushing weight of their life, caring for their son around
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the clock, and she was alone. There was no balance,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: no partnership, and absolutely no relief for her.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Then there was the money steroids supplements in gym memberships. Guys,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: they're not cheap. Okay, financial resources that should have gone
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: toward their son in their future were being funneled into
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Marsion's narcissism. Every time they were in the same room,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it was always a fight of some kind.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Now, while his home life was going to shit, Marson
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: was thriving on the outside. He loved the validation of
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the mirror. He craved the looks, the comments, and the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: shallow admiration of strangers. That external warship fed an ego
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: that was already growing out of control. I'm sure it
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: didn't take.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Much, I suld say. I don't think it was a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: far stretch, don't Now, As he felt bigger in the world,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: his life at home begin to look smaller. Michelina, the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: domestic responsibilities, and even his own son begin to fill
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: ordinary boring. Of course, he thought she was boring most
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Selena was doing something far less glamorous and far more
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: more difficult. She was being a parent. And guys, that
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: isn't boring. That's responsibility. That is love in the most demanding,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: selfless form.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly, he didn't have it. So while she was at home, exhausted,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: holding the pieces of their life together with nothing but
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: grit and a sewing needle. Our son was out living
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: a completely different life, chasing a high that his family
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: could no longer give him. What it's What a hard
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: life for this guy.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Oh man, gosh, I mean, you've got mommy and daddy,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you know, to help, and then you've got the woman
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to take care care of the kid. He had his
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: cake and was eating it too. Let's just be honest,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Hi on tops, hello, now, let's just call it what
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it is. Marsen had become a monster in the making.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: He was being an absolute asshole. Guys, let's not you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: try to shy away from that. And he was starting
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to view the woman he once loved is nothing more
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: than an obstacle to the life he thought he deserved.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And I bet you that the steroids helped. Oh yeah,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: change that? Oh yeah, Okay, I have a question, dubs.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Am I the mama or am I the daddy? I'm
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: just asking are we talking about it his mom and daddy.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Because I want to be the daddy. Oh okay, all right,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: real quick. Well, instead of respecting Michelina's strength, Marsin set
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: out to the great heart, because of course he did.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: He began telling Michelina, she wasn't as attractive as she
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: used to be. You know, let us think in well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: she was doing the heavy lifting of raising his child.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: He had chose to chip away at her soul because
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: he is just such a great guy guy. No, instead,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: he would openly talk about how hot the women at
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the gym were, comparing the mother of his child to strangers,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: like she was a piece of equipment to be measured
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and discarded. Which is disgusting. It is disgusting that woman
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: brought a life into this world. Fuck yourself, Marcin.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: It's also disrespectful. I don't give a shit. You never
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: do that. I'm sorry you don't do that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: You know what she didn't have to do is take
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: steroids to change her body. No, sounds like somebody else
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: is really insecure to me.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I guess he may not know, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: roid rage is real, and so a shrinkage of your
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: little winker.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: It was unbelievably cruel, and still, despite the weight of
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it all, Michelina held on even in that exhausting loop
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of breaking up making up. She wanted it to work.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: She believed it could. But Marsa is already broadcasting his exit.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Of course he was. He changed his Facebook status to single,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: which it seems like a small action on the surface,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: but it's a public humiliation. Let's be let's be honest.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: You're basically going to the town square and being like,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I am single now to everyone that knows you.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: And or it's very passive aggressive too. Okay, I don't
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: normally do this, but Anthony, why do I care about
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: someone else's winker? I don't I care about the fact
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: he's an asshole and he is degrading the mother of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: his child and he deserves a smaller winker.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy sucks and that's what it is. Now.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: By him changing this Facebook it was a signal to
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the world and quite frankly, a slap in the face
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: to her that he had already detached, even while they
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: were still breathing the same air under the same roof.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Now, as the body building obsession deepened and the steroid
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: use escalated, the volatility inside the house reached a breaking point.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: The fights weren't just arguments anymore. They were increasingly becoming
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: unpredictable explosions. He was verbally abusive to Michelina, and he
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: threw things and we I need to say this clearly. Okay, guys,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I need everyone to understand you do not have to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: put your hands on someone.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: For it to be abuse.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, this was domestic violence, plain and simple. And if
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: anyone wants to argue that, come at me. Because you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: don't have to touch someone for it to be abuse.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: That's true. Now. By twenty eleven, after several years of
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: this behavior, something inside Michelina finally shifted. The hope was
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: still there, yes, but it was no longer strong enough
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: to carry the weight of his cruelty. The emotional toll
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: had reached its limit, and for the first time, she
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: began to seriously visualize and exit, and not just from
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the relationship, but from England entirely. She's a very big
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: thing to start thinking about.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: It is, and also if you don't know everyone, it's
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: also the most dangerous time when you're in a DV situation.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: It's good that you start thinking that, but it also
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: can be the most dangerous time.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: A plan.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she wanted to go home. She wanted to go
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: back to Poland, back to her sisters, her parents, back
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to a life that felt safe and steady. But Marson
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: had already written a different ending. He didn't want to
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: be with Michelina, but he had no intention of letting
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: her take their son. In his twisted reality, the role
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: of mother didn't belong to her anymore. He decided it
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: belonged to his mother.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. This guy, this guy is is trash. So,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: while Michelina was quietly planning a way out, imagining a
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: future where she could rebuild her life, while still secretly
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: hoping Marson might finally wake up and fight for them
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: instead of against her, Marson was rewriting the future with
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: her completely erased from the picture.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Even then, she wore her engagement ring, and she didn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: wear it because things were good. She wore it as
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: a silent plea. She thought that perhaps telling him she
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: was leaving would be the shock he needed to see
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: what he was about to lose. She thought it might
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: finally bring him back to her. She had no idea
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that he wasn't looking for a way to fix the relationship.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: He was actually looking for a way to make her disappear.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And now we arrive on May twenty eighth, two thousand
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: and eleven, a Saturday that at first glance looked like
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: any other, but this one came with a message that
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: changed everything. Marsen texted Michelina with something she hadn't heard
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: any long time, an apology. He said he was sorry
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: and that he wanted to make it up to her
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: by taking her shopping. Cool, I mean, I like, but.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a red flag when he hasn't done it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: In a while, because why why would you be doing this? Now?
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: What's you know? Done this? But they were rather simple words,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: but to Michelina they were everything that maybe hanging on
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: to hope for all of these years was finally going
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: to pay off.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: And guys, this just hit me and I have to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: say this. If anyone out there is thinking she was stupid,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to just tell y'all, don't she every woman
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: wants to believe that they can, you know, hold on
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: until things get better, okay, And she was really trying.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah please, I agreed, dope, adubs. Now this was the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: man who had stopped showing up, the man who had
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: pulled away piece by piece until there was almost nothing left,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and suddenly Harry was reaching back to her. It felt
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: like a sign that every time she chose hope over
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the cold, hard reality, she was being led to this
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: turning point.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Michelina wanted this day to matter, so she leaned into
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: it completely and was going to make sure it was special,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: which is a big deal for a mom, all right,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it is a very big deal. She got dressed up,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: she put on makeup, she was going to show of
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: as the woman he had first fallen for, and she
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: dropped their son off at his grandmother's house, ensuring they
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: would have uninterrupted time to reconnect.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: She was so giddy, and she just knew that this
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: was going to be the beginning of something new for them.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: But while Mischelina was upstairs getting ready, clutching that fragile hope, Marson,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the asshole that he is, was finalizing a very different
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: set of plans. I hate that she was up there
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: getting ready and he Oh my god, it just breaks
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: my heart does now.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Marson picked up the phone and called a friend named
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Patrick Boris. Patrick was only seventeen years old. Okay, Marson
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: was twenty five, So let that sit for a second.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Instead of reaching out to I don't know, appeer, someone
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: who might challenge him or understand the gravity of an
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: adult life, he called a fucking teenager.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be hout it. You have to ask yourself.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Why why pick a seventeen year old to help you?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Right, he probably doesn't even have friends, that's the answer.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Is most likely because it was someone easier to influence,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: someone easier to control, someone easier to pull into a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: shadow they aren't equipped to understand, and someone who won't
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: say no.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Now, when Mischelina finally walked out, dressed up
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and ready for her fresh start, she saw Patrick standing there,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: and it caught her off guard. Why would he be
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: here if this was supposed to be their time? It
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: didn't fit the picture she had painted for the day.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: But hope is a powerful silencer. It pushes doubt aside.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: It's done it a lot. I've had to do it
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: for me a lot, right, Yeah, But you know she
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: was too excited, too focused on the apology to let
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the confusion take any roots, and so she let it
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: go and walk forward anyway. Thank you k Dobbs for
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the super chat. All of us like to believe in
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: a princess story until it's not. That is so true,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Be honest, especially for like me growing up, you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: in a family that loved Disney and Mickey Mouse and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: all of that. You believe in those fairy tell stories.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I mean love love, I love love love, you know.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: But we've all kind of let things slide about people
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: before because we were like, no, no, no, whether it's
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: somebody like you're in love with or a friend or anyone, right,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: because you want to see the best of people, but
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you too.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: But when you have I have to say, as a mom,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: when you have a child with someone, you will do
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: everything you can to try to make that work. Portles
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hello, wanks, good to see you too.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: And guys, I just want to give a heads up
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to everybody. Sorry, Lama didn't put it in the chat.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: A storm just hit and it just started hailing outside.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Wh texted me that it was getting ready to hit
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and it just hit. So if I lose power connection,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: keep going without me.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Do you have a storm every Thursday night for this?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: It's springtime, honey, it is spring in the South.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I mean there's no tornadoes or anything. We're not gonna
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: get taken off to OZ, but the power might flicker
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, now, Marson greeted her with a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: calm smile. He acted as though everything was exactly as
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: it should be. Then he made a simple request, come
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: here for a second. I want to show you something
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: before we go.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Now, nothing about his voice felt urgent or dangerous to her,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: so she followed him, and that's when he pulled out
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: a stun gun three hundred thousand volts. He held it
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: up casually to her, almost like a toy, and he
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: told her he just wanted to demonstrate how it worked,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: that it would be something quick and something harmless. It's fine,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: it's just three hundred thousand volts of electricity. Who gots But.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I just saw my first taser or thing like this
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: last week. I had never seen one before, and I'm
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: going to just tell you it doesn't look painless.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Standing there with Marson and Patrick, it didn't register as
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: a weapon. It felt more like it was a joke,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: like they were just being immature and stupid, pulling some
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: kind of weird, pointless prank. Until Marson stepped towards her.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: And in an instant, the air in the room changed,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the smile no longer reached his eyes anymore, and Michelina,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: dressed for a date and filled with hope, realized too
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: late that the something new she had been waiting for
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: was about to be her worst nightmare.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Buffy, We're going to need to have more details around
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: how you know that they hurt very bad. Okay, if
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: we need to one day do a special learn about
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I need to know how you know. Okay, I need
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to know. Michelina tried to shove him back. That's when
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Marson drove this dun gun into the side of her
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: neck and pulled the trigger. Three hundred thousand volts surged
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: through her nervous system. In a heartbeat, The woman who
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: had been filled with hope collapsed. She laid on the floor.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Her body was paralyzed, unable to move or fight back.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: But for this asshole Marson, the initial shock wasn't enough.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: No, of course it wasn't, not for him. Instead, he
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: drove the stun gun into her helpless frame, again, sending
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: another wave of electricity through her. Then, with seventeen year
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: old Patrick watching and assisting, the quote work began. They
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: bound her hands and feet, wrapped heavy tape around her limbs,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: finishing with a strip across her mouth, a final seal
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: to endure that if she woke up, her screams would
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: never leave the room.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Oh every moment movement was cold and deliberate, and as
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: they worked, Marson's silence broke, he began to scream at her.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: He unleashed a torrent of pure, unadulterated rage, telling her
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: how much he hated her. He told her that he
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and their son would be better off without her, and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: that she was the weight dragging them down. I don't
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: like him. He is a piece of shit.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: He does not get better.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: No, but I mean.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: He hurled these words at an unconscious woman, perhaps hoping
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: that some part of her subconscious would feel the sting
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: of his resentment before she died. Once they were satisfied,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: she was a prisoner in her own skin, and they
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: left her there on the floor for the next six hours.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: When Michelina finally drifted back to consciousness, the world was
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: a blur of pain and confusion.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I probably think that's an understatement. Her mind frantically tried
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to bridge the gap between the date night and being
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: bound on the floor. The man she loved, the father
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: of her child.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: He couldn't have done this, and she told herself it
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: was a joke, a sick, cruel bodybuilding prank that had
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: gone too far. She waited for the punchline. She waited
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: for the laughter and the moment he would reach down
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: to untie her. But that minute turned into hours, and
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: the silence of the house became deafening because no one came.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I also think that says what kind of person she
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: is that she didn't instantly like you or me, Not
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: that we're bad people. We would instantly go to the
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: worst because of what we cover on a daily basis. Yeah,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: but she thought it was just a joke.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think she was pleased if it was
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: a joke. Now she don't like she was wrong about
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the worst.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now the truth Sully began to seep in like
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: ice water. This wasn't a game, and she wasn't going
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: to be rescued by the man who had shocked her.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: As she lay there, bound and discarded, a new thought,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: the most terrifying one yet to cold. She was going
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to die here.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And hours later, Marson finally returned, and he walked into
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the room as if nothing happened, as if he hadn't
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: spent the afternoon planning a murder. He even offered her
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: a sip of water and a bite of food. These tiny,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: ordinary gestures felt like they belonged to a whole different universe.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: The mind Mary ground. Her brain has got to be on.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's got to be just spending in the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: middle of a nightmare. Your mind will grab onto anything
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that feels human. Miss Selina clung to that water.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: She wanted to.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Believe that this was a sign of mercy, that if
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: he was feeding her, he couldn't possibly be planning to
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: cure her.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: But that threat of hope was a lie. It was
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: another part of the process. Marson wasn't tending to her
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: out of love. He was simply maintaining the cargo before
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the final transport, and it wouldn't be to the shopping mall. No,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: the only place Marson was taking her was into the woods.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Mars and then force her towards a large cardboard box. Now,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I want you to stop and think about the sheer
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: horror of that moment. Okay, you've been taste shocked, and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you're a grown woman, bound at the wrist and ankles,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and you're being shoved into a space mint for anything
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: other than a living person.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: She tried to scream, to beg to fight with what
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: little strings she had left, but the tape across her
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: mouth swallowed her voice, every plea for her life was
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: reduced to a muffled, desperate vibration that never left the box.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Even began to think about what she was thinking. Oh
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: my I can't I my heart, I'm just you know
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: right now. As he looked down at her, Marsen laughed,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't a nervous laugh. No, it was the
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: sound of a man who felt entirely in control. He
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: told her the truth that he had hated her for years.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Then he delivered the killing blow to her spirit, and
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: that was that she would never ever see their son again.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Have I said I hate this guy?
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it good at Marson.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: And Patrick moved swiftly, ceiling the box shut, winding layer
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: after a layer of heavy tape around it, until Michelina
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: was encased in total suffocating darkness. There was no light
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and there and the only air available was what could
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: see through the microscopic gaps in the cardboard.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for our podcast listeners, we do have pictures over
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: on our YouTube when we could when we record this,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: and that is the box that she was buried in.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm over and see if you want to add
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: visuals to.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: The hell. Yeah, it's a pretty large box, but yeah, yeah, yikes. Well,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: then they loaded her into the back of the car
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: like cargo, like a piece of furniture. They were finished
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: with and they climbed into the front seats, closed the
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: door and began to drive. They drove out of Huddersfield,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: leaving the safety of the street lights and the neighborhoods behind.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I will say, based on that picture, it's a beautiful neighborhood,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: that's true. They headed towards the isolation of a heavily
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: wooded area near the Woodsome Hall golf Club, a place
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: where the trees were thick enough to swallow sound and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the earth was soft enough to hide a secret.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: When they reached the spot they had scouted, the car
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: went sideland they dragged the box out and dropped it
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  Speaker 2: onto the damp forest floor. Inside Michelina was still alive
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: and conscious. She was forced to lie there in the
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: pitch black and her sentence, her senses heightened by terror,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: listening to the world outside her prison.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Then came the sound, the rhythmic, metallic thud of shovels
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: cutting into the earth. Each strike of the blade against
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the soil was a countdown. She listened as they dug
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: a shallow grave just feet away from her, the sound
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: of the dirt being tossed aside marking the exact dimensions
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: of her final resting place. She wasn't just going to die,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: She was being forced to listen to them build her grave.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Now. When the hole was ready, they tipped the box
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: head first into the pit. Michelina was forced into an
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: upside down position, disoriented and helpless, the blood rushing to
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: her head as she already battered. As her already battered
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: body was jammed into the earth, then came the sound
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: that would haunt her forever. It was the heavy, rhythmic
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: thump of dirt hitting the cardboard layer by layer. The
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: world above disappeared until the box was completely submerged.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And this is why I have a Martini tonight, because
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: that huts. To ensure she stayed there, they dragged a
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: massive fallen tree limb over the fresh grave, both to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: camouflage the stun and to act as a physical weight.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: They didn't leave a single thing to chance. Guys, they
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: had officially buried her alive.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Mm hm. Michelina was conscious of every second of it.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: She heard their muffled voices through the soil, heard the
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: finality of the shovel strikes and felt the crushing prussure
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: of the earth as it settled around her prison.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: The realization she was sealed beneath the earth and the
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: oxygen in that box was a ticking clock. Every shallow
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: breath she took brought her closer to the end. Hm
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: panic began to claw at her chest, a primal urge
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to scream and thrash that would only use up her
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: air faster.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: And that's horrific. Yeah, no, yeah, this is horrible because
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: in that suffocating darkness, her mind raced towards the inevitable.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: This is it. I'm going to die in this hole.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I would be thinking.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that right now, that if it happened to me.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: But then something shifted. She forced her mind to focus
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: on a single image, her son. She held on to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: him like an anchor in a storm. She commanded herself
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: to breathe slowly, to not waste a single molecule of oxygen.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: She told herself over and over, stay calm, stay alive,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and do not let go.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: When Michelina was fighting for air beneath the forest floor,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: life above ground continued with a sickening lack of remorse.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Marson and Patrick drove away from the woods, surprisingly, though
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: not with the friend energy of men who had just
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: committed a horror. They stopped at an ATM. They slid
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Michelina's bank card into the machine and withdrew five hundred
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: pounds I mean, guys, like it was a fucking pay
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: day for a job they considered well.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Done, which, thank goodness, they did a shit job.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Of Thank god, we find out.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Then they returned to the house, the very home Michelina
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: had meticulously cared for, and there, while she lay inches
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: beneath the dirt, struggling to keep her heart beating, they
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: sat down, picked up their controllers and started playing video games.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Wow, let's stand up, gentlemen.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I don't play video.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I mean it was a kid but still.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I know, but I don't play video games. But is
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: that the first thing you want to do after burying
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: somebody alive? You want to go play videos?
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Right? Right? Huh?
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Now? They celebrated her disappearance with the digital lights of
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: a TV screen, confident that their secret was buried deep
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: enough to never see the sun, but underground in the
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: weight of the suffocating silence. Michelina made a decision. She
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to die in that box.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Now. So if you are experiencing coerce of control, isolation,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: or domestic abuse, help is available at the National Domestic
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Violence Hotline by calling one eight hundred seven ninety nine
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: safe seventy two three three, or texting start to eight
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: eight seven eight eight.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Now, this brings us to the end of part one.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I think we all upbreak in some cocktails next time
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: on True Crime. One time we go beneath or Michelina
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: is in a race against the clock and the crushing
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: weight of the earth. But the escape is only half
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: the battle, and you don't want to miss the moment
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the dirt finally settles.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: That's right, so join us for the stunning conclusion as
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: we finish part two of Buried Alive the Michelina Luwandowska
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: find us wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: to the live recording of this episode and many more
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: on our YouTube channel True Crime and When Time and
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the second part is unbelievable.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: It is, and I have to say my heart just
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: breaks for her because I know people can go through
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: therapy and get past anything. How do you get past
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: being buried alive. Yeah, I mean, I've made it through
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: a lot, but I honestly don't know.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 56:00
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  Speaker 2: Oh nice. On top, ask when's the next part? Please?
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Just want to know? I want to know now next Thursday,
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• 57:11
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• 57:14
  Speaker 2: say before we sign off for today tonight?
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: You know I wasn't going to okay, but I have
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: something to say.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I was going to say that would be the first.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: This woman to go through all of that. And you know,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I researched all of this, and I had some trouble
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: with it when I was researching it, and I luckily
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: have a great double h But sitting here listening puts
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: me kind of back in the shoes of things I've
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: went through my life. The fact that she still had
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: all held on to hope tells you what kind of
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: person she is.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Well, she is much stronger than Marson was with all
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: of his fucking asteroids. Can be as strong as Michelina.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. She always believed that love could cure anything and
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: conquer anything.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: True true.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: So but guys, please be safe, especially with all the storms.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: If you're in the South, we're all getting rain this
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: weekend and it is a wild one out there. But
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: if you see something, say something, guys, your silence only
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: helps the perpetrators, and guys enjoy your wine time or
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: your cocktails.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, everyone, until next Thursday, please be safe, go forth
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: and be amazing. All right, bye friend you guys, hey,