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5-07-26 Hour 1 - Biggest Avs concern?/Time remaining in Nuggets window?/Sick of Russini & Vrabel, Rox bad again · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardi and Kane on demand.
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  Speaker 3: This Mile High team and the Avalanche, they're bigger, stronger,
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  Speaker 3: tougher and burying you.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's just what they are coming into the
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  Speaker 3: Stanley Cup playoffs. Everybody that knew hockey, which is obviously
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  Speaker 3: not who will you are claiming to be the super
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  Speaker 3: duper hockey experts, but everybody that is deemed hockey experts go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's just tic tac toe right there in
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  Speaker 3: the playoff. That's against a very good Minnesota Wild team.
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  Speaker 3: There's basically playing with him pointing with it. That's goal.
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  Speaker 3: That's goal. Everybody's goal. Mckennon's killing people and also scoring goals.
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  Speaker 3: This team coming into the playoffs is being talked about
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  Speaker 3: his baby being one of the best in the history
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  Speaker 3: of hockey. This Avalanche team is rude. This Avalanche team
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  Speaker 3: is strong, and this Avalanche team will actually go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: And back a bunch of rough right in the head
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 3: It is a Avalanche ans run kind of like an
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  Speaker 3: Avalanche happening in the NHL playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: They're rude. I mean, I guess so you a punch
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  Speaker 5: of ref in the face the linesman.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, that's obviously Pat McAfee talking about ds.
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  Speaker 3: Kellen people and also scoring goals.
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  Speaker 6: I uh, I gotta tell you. I asked this question.
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  Speaker 6: I just threw it out in the appetizer because I
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  Speaker 6: wanted to see what the response was. And I think
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  Speaker 6: I knew the answers were coming my way. I don't
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  Speaker 6: agree with them, but I knew what was coming. And
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  Speaker 6: I'll do this again. Do you mind if we start
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  Speaker 6: the show with a strap pole?
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  Speaker 7: Straw pole? I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know to dub vic what.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that we didn't even get
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity to answer you.
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  Speaker 4: You just hit the straw pole thing.
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  Speaker 2: What if Fick and I both said no, no, no
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  Speaker 2: straw poles to start the show.
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  Speaker 5: I'm in control of the buttons.
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  Speaker 4: I reckon.
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  Speaker 5: You are sorry.
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  Speaker 6: I play god on this pot. Okay, when I ask
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  Speaker 6: you something, it's.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go Yeah, let's just go along with it. Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that sounds good.
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  Speaker 4: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 6: Here's the shop poll. You've entered the postseason six games in.
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  Speaker 6: You've won all six, You've done so in a multitude
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  Speaker 6: of different ways. What is your biggest concern with the
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  Speaker 6: Avs right now? And you can't say injuries?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, complacency?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just but but I'm not. I'm not, but but
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  Speaker 2: you're you're making me come up with something.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that's what.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm forcing an answer, and you can't say injuries.
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  Speaker 6: Biggest concern for the Avs right now is blank overconfidence.
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  Speaker 6: Those are the two that came in repeatedly, and those
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  Speaker 6: are the ones I was expecting and look to come
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  Speaker 6: up with an answer. I suppose that's the one. But
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  Speaker 6: even then, I don't have any concern of that. I
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  Speaker 6: don't either because I saw Nathan McKinnon's face last year
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  Speaker 6: when they got bounced by Dallas. I know that there
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  Speaker 6: is never going to be complacency with this team. They're
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  Speaker 6: gonna have that attitude that Kobe had, and that that
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  Speaker 6: postgame pressure when they're up three to one or whatever
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  Speaker 6: it was in the postseason, they go, Kobe, why aren't
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  Speaker 6: you smiling? Job's not finished? What's there to smile about?
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  Speaker 6: Like I I really feel like the Avs even have
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  Speaker 6: that aspect, the mental So.
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  Speaker 2: You're you're making us come up with an answer, even
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  Speaker 2: though we don't believe the We don't believe it's a thing.
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  Speaker 4: But the point is, what's the point?
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  Speaker 5: They're kind of doing everything. Yes, I mean they're doing
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  Speaker 5: everything right now.
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  Speaker 2: There will be no complacency. Listen, the puck bounce is weird.
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  Speaker 2: Other teams are gonna win games, you know. Other teams
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  Speaker 2: are are very desirous of winning as well. I'm here
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  Speaker 2: to tell you there will be no complacency, there will
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  Speaker 2: be no overconfidence.
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  Speaker 4: This team is built different. This team is angry. They're
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  Speaker 4: built they're built to win.
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  Speaker 1: There's only one other team, Carolina on the other side
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  Speaker 1: of the bracket.
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  Speaker 7: The Abs in.
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  Speaker 1: Carolina never lost in the Stanley Cup playoffs, never lost.
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  Speaker 7: Every game's been a win.
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  Speaker 6: Is it the concern that Carolina has the dude who
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  Speaker 6: does one hundred and fifty thousand songs and we don't.
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  Speaker 7: That could be a concern?
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 5: Is that a concern?
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  Speaker 1: When it's all said and done, and if those two
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  Speaker 1: teams do meet in the final points, we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to remedy that. That's going to have to be remedied.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, can we take.
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  Speaker 5: The same beat and make a song out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Why not we could take it, steal the whole damn
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  Speaker 1: thing and start a war with the Carolina. Makes some
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  Speaker 1: noise for your Carolina Hurricane.
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  Speaker 5: Wait a minute, we might have to do it.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, if that is a Stanley Cup final matchup,
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  Speaker 6: we might have to do a bat If the four of.
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  Speaker 1: Us can harmonize, and we'll meet Nelly on this, because
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  Speaker 1: he's the best musician of the lot, and Nelly, maybe
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  Speaker 1: you'll have to direct it, act, do all of it.
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  Speaker 1: If the four of us can harmonize properly and pull
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  Speaker 1: this off, we'll take the exact word, change him up
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  Speaker 1: and take the song.
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  Speaker 6: For our Okay, let's just try and harmonize one hundred
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  Speaker 6: and fifty thousand.
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  Speaker 5: Leave it up, Leave it up in Nelly. Let's try
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  Speaker 5: and harmonize me. All right, Let's see what it sounds.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not part of this, Yes.
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  Speaker 8: If you have one hundred and fifty thousand, Nope, Why
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  Speaker 8: is this beneath you?
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  Speaker 1: You're the biggest fool on this show, and somehow this
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  Speaker 1: is beneath you. You know what?
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  Speaker 2: That kind of pisses meiss It's not beneath me. It
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  Speaker 2: is not beneath me, Nelly, it's a dog.
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  Speaker 9: Moser's trying to get me to play that hype song.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not allowed to play.
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  Speaker 7: No dog now I'm doing your souf.
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  Speaker 5: Don't you dare, Nelly, don't you dare?
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  Speaker 10: You know?
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  Speaker 1: This is what angers me about Moser. He engages in
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  Speaker 1: the most tomfoolery and left field stuff than anybody. We
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  Speaker 1: already have a song the one time already we want
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  Speaker 1: to have fun, the one time we want to do
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  Speaker 1: something fun. You want to take your ball and go home.
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  Speaker 5: You're a jo and they gotta go to your bedroom
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  Speaker 5: two minutes for being bad.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just san mos. I have been banned from playing
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  Speaker 9: that song.
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  Speaker 1: You're not doing your dumb dumb that song rules. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: my apologies to Kyle Keith, you Connor, who else did
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  Speaker 1: that song? Riiker my my humble pa. I love you
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  Speaker 1: guys like brothers. You guys are the best. It's dumb.
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  Speaker 2: So hypothetically, if these two teams should meet sometime in
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  Speaker 2: a month, then we have to let you guys are
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  Speaker 2: beating me up over a hypothetical.
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  Speaker 5: What do you mean can you sink no lower?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if if they happen to get there, and if
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  Speaker 2: they beat the Carolina Hurricanes if they went too, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: don't beat me up over a hypothetically.
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  Speaker 6: I'm beating you up because you refuse to participate in
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  Speaker 6: the fun that.
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  Speaker 2: I have sang that song every time it's come on.
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  Speaker 2: But we have a song. It's already done, it's already
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  Speaker 2: been recorded professionally.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe your TV song. It could be your TV song now.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to do that on the TV side,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, knock yourselves out. You can country yourself to death.
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  Speaker 7: This will be our song.
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  Speaker 5: Come again, we are sung yourselves.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we will engage in fun.
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  Speaker 1: See if you played both of those songs side by side,
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  Speaker 1: your song would get killed.
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  Speaker 5: You ever committed country song before to yourself?
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  Speaker 6: Cancy that I have Texas says you might have to
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  Speaker 6: change it to two hundred and fifty thousand given the
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  Speaker 6: cost of living.
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  Speaker 5: I actually kind of like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, versus the Carolinas. I'm sure you can get a
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  Speaker 1: nice house to the Carolinas for half the christ.
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  Speaker 6: Here's what's clear about game three, and God, I hate
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  Speaker 6: this weight. I just want this game happen tonight. But whatever,
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  Speaker 6: you are going to get the haymaker of all haymakers
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  Speaker 6: from Minnesota on Saturday, totally, like there is no question.
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  Speaker 6: We already know it's difficult enough. How many teams have
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  Speaker 6: come back from down three in the postseason?
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  Speaker 5: Has it ever happened?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: How many times? When's the last one?
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  Speaker 4: Not very often.
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  Speaker 2: The La Kings did it in twenty fourteen on their
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  Speaker 2: way to a Stanley Cup championship.
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  Speaker 6: You know how difficult that's going to be to start with,
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  Speaker 6: and then to do it against this team is even
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  Speaker 6: more difficult. The issue that they have and this is
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  Speaker 6: a massive problem the Avs. If they do anything well
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  Speaker 6: and they've done this for eight nine years now, a
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  Speaker 6: score and they'll they'll put goals on you. And Minnesota
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  Speaker 6: is leaking confidence in one their goaltending because they don't
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  Speaker 6: know who the hell to play now in two. There's
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  Speaker 6: another aspect to this I want to get to a
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  Speaker 6: little bit later. But in their blue line, you weren't
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  Speaker 6: playing two guys on your blue line half the game
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  Speaker 6: repeatedly now six essentially what six games in our own
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  Speaker 6: when he was this averaging thirty minutes a game in
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  Speaker 6: the pot season.
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  Speaker 5: If you have confidence in your other dudes and they don't,
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  Speaker 5: they don't.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Yeah, they they certainly are gonna throw out
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  Speaker 2: their top pair as much as they possibly can because
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  Speaker 2: they're young and they're really, really good.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know how long so is Kel McCarry. He
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  Speaker 6: doesn't play thirty minutes a night, agreed.
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  Speaker 2: If this wasn't VIC, if this wasn't every other night thing,
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  Speaker 2: I'd have even more trupidation if I was the coach
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  Speaker 2: of the Minnesota while to throw those guys out there
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  Speaker 2: for thirty minutes a night, Well, they're getting three days off,
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  Speaker 2: and these guys just want to go, go go. My
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  Speaker 2: point is that the hitting is not going to stop
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  Speaker 2: from the avalanche side. So Saturday night, they're gonna they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be chasing Quinn Hughes around, they gonna be laying
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  Speaker 2: licks on him, and that's gonna continue and continue and
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  Speaker 2: continue and contin and it doesn't get fun.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't get more fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like he goes, oh you know what, I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait until Valdachushkin four checks my face off. I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait until Parker Kelly lines me up. Oh you
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  Speaker 2: know what, I cannot wait until Nathan McKinnon blows me off.
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  Speaker 4: A puck again.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't say that he's like God, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: anybody's like that. It's like, are we really doing this
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  Speaker 2: a night after night after night? Are these guys on
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  Speaker 2: my bacon all the time?
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  Speaker 1: I think the biggest question of the series, and it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing we've arrived at this crossroads at the third game.
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  Speaker 7: It's only the third game in.
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  Speaker 1: But the biggest question is who did the wild start
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  Speaker 1: and goal? He said, where do they go? That's a
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  Speaker 1: bad place to be, you know, when you have to
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  Speaker 1: suddenly address that, And I'm sure it's right down the
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  Speaker 1: middle for some of them. If you were running that team,
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  Speaker 1: what would you do?
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  Speaker 2: Most well, I would probably go back to Volstead, That's
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  Speaker 2: probably what I would do. But eight of them, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but he actually I thought he looked better than Gustafson did.
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  Speaker 4: Gustafson did not look good.
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  Speaker 2: He looked like a guy that had three weeks off
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  Speaker 2: and not a lot of shots on him. My bigger question, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's a big question. One of the other big questions
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  Speaker 2: is what style of hockey are they going to try
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  Speaker 2: to employ because neither has worked mm hmm. Now they
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  Speaker 2: haven't tried to quote trap yet, but their offensive game
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  Speaker 2: plan was just get it out of the zone. Chip
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  Speaker 2: it off the boards and chase in game two. Game
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  Speaker 2: one was let's let's get in a run agum with
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  Speaker 2: these guys, and neither one works. They they're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: beat it either one of those. So what do they
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  Speaker 2: try to employ for game three? I they're probably pulling
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  Speaker 2: their hair out a little bit trying to come up
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  Speaker 2: with a game plan that could actually work and win.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I guess you. You open the show prep
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  Speaker 1: by asking what could what could happen in this series
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  Speaker 1: that could sway you, that could really make it? What's
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  Speaker 1: a concerned series? And I think I think I know
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  Speaker 1: what it is. The Avs cannot take the bait, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They may come back with
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  Speaker 1: some form of physicality that will want they'll want you
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  Speaker 1: to take the bait, and something can happen in a
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  Speaker 1: game that can cause a lot of unrest and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden the game is lost.
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  Speaker 6: Because of it, like trying to go to you into
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  Speaker 6: getting in the penalty box sort of.
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  Speaker 7: Take the bait.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Who is the greatest bait taker of all time?
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  Speaker 5: Bait taker?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, every every damn to Walmarty Fife, Charlie the Tuna,
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  Speaker 2: every damn time that tuna put his mouth on that hook,
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  Speaker 2: every commercial, they fooled him every time.
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  Speaker 5: I don't blame him.
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  Speaker 6: It looked awesome, though, every time it looked awesome from
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  Speaker 6: his perspective.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you that. That's how That's how Bill Parcells.
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  Speaker 2: Got the nickname the Tuna. Yeah, is because he used Charlie.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not Charlie Tuna here, I'm not. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna just.
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  Speaker 4: Take the bait.
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  Speaker 7: There you go. You know, then you're right, Vic.
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  Speaker 4: You cannot take the bait because they're going to try to.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure the Felino, the Scalari brothers, Scilary what are
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  Speaker 2: the names? Nelly helped me out again, Scilari brothers from
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  Speaker 2: Ghostbusters too.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever, Yeah, I did, I did. I've heard people say that,
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  Speaker 5: and I don't know what they're referencing.
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  Speaker 1: Your brain is in a lot of different places when
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  Speaker 1: the just behind but he's hiding behind his desk, he's
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  Speaker 1: it's the Scilary brothers, like the two.
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  Speaker 4: Brothers come back from the dead and haunt him because
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  Speaker 4: he sent the chair.
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  Speaker 1: Have to do something to squeeze that brain in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit because you're so the.
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  Speaker 2: Felino brothers, I'm sure are gonna try to run the Abs.
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  Speaker 2: McCarron's gonna try to run the Abs. That's probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: be their game plan. Don't take that bait. Just play
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  Speaker 2: your game. You know who else tried to, uh try
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  Speaker 2: to bait the Avs into doing something they didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to do. The La Kings And what did DJ Smith say?
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  Speaker 2: He said they never ever cracked ever. Yeah, He's like,
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  Speaker 2: we tried every tactic. We tried to blow him up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they hit, they laid fifty hits a game
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  Speaker 2: and get out of it. They stayed disciplined and they
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  Speaker 2: did their thing.
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  Speaker 4: VIC.
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  Speaker 1: Do you anticipate Well, we talked to coach about it yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: You're up to nothing. If Manson is not ready, you
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  Speaker 1: you sort of milk that as long as you can, right,
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to throw him in there if he's
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  Speaker 1: not ready. So we'll know if he's ready when he plays.
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  Speaker 1: And if he doesn't play, it's just a longer term
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  Speaker 1: injury than we all assumed exactly, But there's no reason
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  Speaker 1: to risk it. So they may have to risk it.
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  Speaker 1: That's a different story for the Wild though. They've got
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  Speaker 1: a couple injured players that perhaps may need more days,
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  Speaker 1: but they're like, hey, we're at the point and overturn
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  Speaker 1: yet and eck get in there whether you whether you're
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  Speaker 1: ready or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if they do come back, vic, are they going
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  Speaker 2: to be at one hundred percent? That's a big question.
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  Speaker 2: And if I'm the avalanche and Eric sexts on the ice,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I do?
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  Speaker 5: You test it?
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  Speaker 4: You're damn right you do. By the way, Derek West
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  Speaker 4: just texted us Charlie Brown's the biggest bait taker ball time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean she pulled that damn football every time.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I do after she well, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: start kicking her hands. That's what happens. You're gonna pull
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: that football again, sister.
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  Speaker 5: It is funny to me because we've all done.
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  Speaker 6: We've all held the football for somebody else to kick,
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  Speaker 6: and you have one thought, is he gonna rip my
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  Speaker 6: finger apart when he kicks this ball? Can I trust
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  Speaker 6: this human being to not hit my finger?
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  Speaker 5: Pro kickers will.
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  Speaker 4: Kick the ball.
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  Speaker 2: If you're talking about youth or high school football, they're
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  Speaker 2: good at kick.
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  Speaker 4: I've had my hand kick. It's not fun.
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  Speaker 6: I wonder Herbstreet when he does that every week on
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  Speaker 6: college game day for the giant check that they give out, right,
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  Speaker 6: how many times he just had that finger oubliterated by
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  Speaker 6: some college kid.
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  Speaker 1: My brother got me on one of those yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: it was very, very embarrassing. He had me do this
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: thing that's social media trend. Hey, get up against the wall.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Can you do a one handed push up against the wall?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I can't do it, so I said, of course I can't,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: So went up and did it.
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: And he pulled my hand out and I hit my
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: face off it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: It was very dangerous.
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: Wait, so this is not the brother who's dying of
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: the shingles vaccine.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: This is young brother. Okay, gotcha? Three oh three, five, four,
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: nine to two.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: One my brother's in bed with shingles. The other one's
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: pulling pranks. What a wonderful family.
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: When we returned, there was some audio from yesterday, and
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: we always say.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Like this is if there's nothing else.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: An actual theme of this show is self awareness is
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: a beautiful thing. This guy has none of it. We'll
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: get to it next. You talk too much, Hey, let
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: it ride. Here's an example of kind of what I
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: was discussing. There's a guy and I just there's such
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: a lack of self awareness. And I watched this happen
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: last night. Draymond Green is filling in for Shack on
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: inside the NBA. Everybody else is the normal cast. It's Ernie,
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: it's it's Kenny, it's Chuck. And they start talking about
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Golden State and Barkley makes a valid point, and what
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: bothers me is Draymond goes after as if he's Shack,
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: the way that Shaq talks to Barkley about like.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: Oh you got no rings and I was better than
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: you and that sort of thing. Right, I want you
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: to hear this from from Draymond.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Listen, sports are for young people.
• 17:15
  Speaker 10: You hope to have a great, long career, but sports
• 17:20
  Speaker 10: nobody wins.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: When they're thirty seven, thirty eight.
• 17:22
  Speaker 10: That you said what you said, I didn't want to
• 17:24
  Speaker 10: hear if he believes what you're talking. Yeah, I mean,
• 17:29
  Speaker 10: I think the goal is just to not look like
• 17:31
  Speaker 10: you in the Houston Rockets uniform. Yeah, as ultimulated goal
• 17:34
  Speaker 10: for us, Like we don't want.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: To what does that look like?
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Did you see it? I'm just asking I saw it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: So that's the beginning.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: That's that's not only out of turn and that that
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: is awkward to say that to a Hall of Famer
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: on his show when you're an invited guest. Remember he's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: an invited guest of filling. Yeah, that is so off putting.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I would have stopped right there. I would have just
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: stopped right there and said, that's just uncalled for to
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: say that.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: It's also funny to me that Barkley's numbers in these
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: awful years that he's talking about are better eighteen and twelve,
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: better than any year that he had in his NBA career.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: So that's that's number one.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: This guy Brett for a long time though he's he's
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: thought he's better than he is.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: Well, that's my issue with Draymond and it continues from there.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: They talk about, you know, what is the goal for
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Golden State moving forward?
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: We're always going to try to compete. When you win championships,
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: the goal will always be to try to reach that level.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Can we get back to that level?
• 18:44
  Speaker 10: Listen to your point, Jimmy's going to miss a lot
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: of next year, Moses is going to miss a lot
• 18:51
  Speaker 10: of next year. That's seventy million dollars, seventy five million
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: dollars of what one hundred and sixty million dollar pay roll,
• 18:58
  Speaker 10: so it's going to be tough, but make no mistake
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: about it, the goal will always be to compete at
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: a championship standard level.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: So that part, there's one more clip I want to
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: get to in a bit, But that part specifically got
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: me thinking about the Nuggets.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: And we've known.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: For years the golden state, their run if they kept
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: that team together was pretty much over. It's four straight
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: years of being in the plane. You weren't competing for
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: championships anymore. So you can say the goal is always
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: to compete for a championship. But it's one of those
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: situations where I think they've recognized their window closed too late.
• 19:35
  Speaker 10: And.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Are the Nuggets on the verge of that, Like, are
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: they at the question is this, do they have a
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: couple of years left or they already passed that window
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: of this iteration of the team and needing to move
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: on before they get to this golden state.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I find Joker's only thirty one years old. He's only
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: thirty one. It's not about just him, understood, But I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: saying that is your main piece. Yeah, and while that
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: is still young enough, your window is still going to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: be open. Now you better get getting Vic to get
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: guys around him that can stay healthy and or play.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: There is a press conference tomorrow.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: That we will carry live on Altitude Television starting at
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: eleven a m. The press conference will feature Josh Cronki,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Ben Tenzer, John Wallace. They'll come up first at eleven,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: then at eleven thirty it'll be head coach David Adelman.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of questions to be asked. I would love
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to hear. If you have any questions that you want asked,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: let us know. But I'm sure a lot of questions
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: will go through the fire because there's a lot to ask.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I'm very interested to hear what the triumvirate when you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: begin that press conference, what they have to say about
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the roster. And I have a feeling. I have a
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: feeling that they're going to sort of stamp out the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: fire a little bit.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: It's not as bad as it looks.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, all trades are on the table,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: everything's on the table.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Well, let me ask you this is kind of.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: I think the main thrust of what this offseason is
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: going to be and in talking about has this window
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: for this version of the Nuggets closed and do they
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: need to reform and start anew And I think it
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: all revolves around Jamal because, first of all, Jamal is
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: the greatest asset that you have. If you want to
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: make major changes within the organization, it can start with
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: a Jamal trade, correct, because that's somebody that people would
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: be interested in, that would take and they would give
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: up things to get him. But the question is this.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: The New England Patriots were very famous for letting good
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: players go a year or two before they knew they
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: were about to fall off. They did that with Vince Wilfrick,
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: they did it with Richard Seymour. They did it with
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: a bunch of guys on that roster. What's the extent
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: of you think the Jamal in Joker sort of two
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: man pairing within this roster, having them being your top
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: two guys. Is that something you can continue or could
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: you offload Jamal? He might have a couple of really
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: good years elsewhere, but it could benefit you in the
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: long run.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: What is it?
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Well, these are these are harsh things to say.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Well, to me, it's very obvious, and it's so obvious
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that there's really no other discussion to be had. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the obvious answer is this. Listen to me, There's only
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: one player on this roster who makes heavy money that
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: is currently tradeable for the value of that contract, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that is Jamal. Yep, that's it. So there's no other
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: discussion to be had here. There's no let's go let's
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: say how about this or how about that. You're not
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: going to get the same return on other players.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: As you would Jamal Murray.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent correct.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: That being said, these decisions are difficult because he's still
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: in his twenties. He just became an All Star. You've
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: won a championship with him. He's been a nugget from
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: day one of his career. He and Joker have had
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: wonderful runs together in wonderful chemistry for an awfully long time.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But the question is can you get to where you
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: need to be as an organ? These are the hard
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: questions being I'm sure being asked inside, can you get
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to where you need to be again with him and
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that contract?
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Here's like, I think that's valid, Moje. Here's my concern
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: when it comes to Jamal. Jamal for years never an
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: All Star, didn't get the accolades. He was a source
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: of frustration at times, by Nuggets the Nuggets fan base
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: because he would be inconc assistant in the regular season.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: But what happened if Jamal was healthy and ready to
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: go in the postseason, he was otherworldly. He was one
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: of the best players in the playoffs every year that
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: he was healthy for the postseason, and for now three
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: straight years, Jamal hasn't been He's hit big shots. We
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: all remember the shots that he hit against the Lakers
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: to close out games, stuff like that, but those would
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: be games in which he's five of eighteen from the floor.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: And I think this Jamal question is only arising because
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: of his recent postseason.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Statistics. I think that's what it's from.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: My question, we would have taken the opposite, like if
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: you could take the opposite vic of Jamal's inconsistent during
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: the regular season and not an All Star, but during
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: the postseason he blossoms into this All NBA player. It's
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: been kind of the opposite, especially this last year.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: My question, and I know it's not going to be
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: answered because it's hard to answer this question, is how
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: active can you be on the trade market with great
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: players when you know that the trade market they see
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that you have to make trades you lose all leverage.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: How difficult is it to make trades when the leverage
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: is lost? Do you know what I mean by that?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, But at the same time, you don't have to
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: do anything. Well, if somebody doesn't come up with a
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: deal for you that you like.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: No, No, you have to do something, Brett.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: No, you've got to do something right with You have
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: to take a hand with Jamal specifically, you don't have
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: to do anything. If you don't come up with a
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: package that you like, then you keep him because he's good.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't trade the other contracts, Brett.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'll start this whole thing over again.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: You have to trade him.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: He's the only value you have for the money.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: I All I'm telling you is this, I'm not trading
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Jamal Murray for fifty cents on the dollar when he's not.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't say you did. I said he's the only value.
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: He's the only person who will get value backed.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: But at this rate that I'm totally in agreement with you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: But what you said was what does that look like
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: if the market knows you're trying to trade somebody. That's
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: a different thing, because that implies that you're gonna get
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: less valuable for him.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, let me let me chime
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: in here, Vic, even at fifty million dollars, Jamal Murray
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: is a desirable player, a guy in his twenties who's
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: an All Star that's very desirous.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: You will have at.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Least one GM who will jump the shark to get him. So, yeah,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: they may know you quote have to trade him or
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: you want to trade him, they also want him, so
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: they're gonna poney up a little bit.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: It's not gonna be fifty cents on the dollar.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that some of the greatest combos
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in the history of basketball have been traded at some
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: point or another. We just saw Golden State. Whoever has
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: imagined that Clay and Curry would be.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Set apart, it happened.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Eventually, It happens, right, They produced championships, they produced a dynasty.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: It happens. And when it happens is almost as if
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: important is anything, it's time and if they can do it, great,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: If they can't and they run it back, I'm just trying.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I'm struggling to figure out how you're going to run
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it back with the necessary pieces around them that says Drade,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: trade Jamal, You guys are crazy for who a pick.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: You do not trade Jamal Murray for a pick. You
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: do not trade him for picks. You trade him for player. Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: you have to get value in return. Nobody, nobody, he's
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: saying fifty cents on the dollar. The reason he's the
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: trade bait is because he's going to elicit talent back.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: You get talent back.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: And also, I would want picks, not so much to
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: take the pick and use it on a player in
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: the draft, but to use it as assets to trade
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: for later, because you don't have those right now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: The other question that I have in my pocket, and
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: this is another question that's impossible to answer because the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: people who did this are no longer there is do
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you wish you would have been less liberal with your
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: assets in years past? They've completely lost all assets draft
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: picks with which to trade. They they're gone. They just
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: dealt them out seconds first. All gone. And the answer
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: would be, well, championship window. You gotta do that stuff
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: when you're in a championship window. A lot of it
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: didn't work. Those assets are gone. So not only is
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: it hard to make trades, but you can't even attach
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: assets to those trades because you don't have many. You
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: have a first round pick this year, and I have
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a sneakyat suspicion they will not make that pick. It's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: going to be gone somewhere.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Ye. You also have another one. The next one you
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: have after this year is twenty thirty one. But what
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: are those rules about. You can't trade to do an
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: executive pick?
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: Oh, you just it doesn't matter the years. You can't
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: trade first round picks in successive years.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't do it, moj I'm not sure they
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: can trade thirty one because they traded thirty two.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty two has already gone to Brooklyneah correct, So
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you gotta you can't.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: You gotta.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: They're gonna make You're gonna make a pick that year.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: The issue is, and this is what's weird, like looking
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: back at how did those assets go away? The worst
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: one by far, You traded three second rounders just to
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: offload Reggie Jackson.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: That's tough. Listen.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: There are good trades and there are bad trades, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: there are trades in history. When you look back on
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the I would contend to you the greatest trade in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Nuggets history produced a championship. And that's the trade of
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony. Yeah, when the entire NBA world knew that
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you had to trade him, and they did. And I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: remember going to that Messi u Jerie press conference when
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he looked at us and said, we got killed. We
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: got killed. In hindsight, you did not get killed. Not
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: only did you produce a winning team, You've got Jamal
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Murray in that trade. You got the pick for Jamal
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Murray in that trade that led to a championship. That
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: trade provided the fruits of the next seven years, that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: one deal. So sometimes it's hard to assess. You got
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to wait a few years. Yeah, the Reggie Jackson trade,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you're exactly right. You gave away picks that would have
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: been very you know, had they kept. You know, it's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: ironic about that. Think about it for a second. How
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: many number twos did they have to unload to unload
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson? How many three? Do you know what it
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: took to get io dissum nu from Chicago? Go back
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: and look at what it took Minnesota to get io
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Dissumnu from Chicago, and you'll you'll pound your forehead on
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the table because if those second round picks were available
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: to you, you could have had him on your.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: Roster for the postseason.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Iod Soon MoU and Julian Phillips to Minnesota. UH Chicago
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: got Rob Dillingham Miller in four second rounders.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Who's who are they?
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: I have no id?
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: Who's the second round pick?
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Was four second rounders to acquire as soon? Who's that?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to him? Was a guy that they
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: picked in the first round that never worked out for them.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: He was a backup point guard and just didn't didn't
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: bring it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: Never heard of him.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he played a lot for them last year.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Didn't watch them.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: The point is trades, Trades have to be measured down
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the road sometimes, and for the Nuggets, the next few
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: moves they make are going to be very difficult because
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: not only do they have to look for the future,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: they have to look for the that.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: The present, which is why I contend.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: And when I say this, I don't mean this in
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: a oh woe is me It's gonna be awful here.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I mean this in a championship window. The Nuggets are
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: going to be good next year, no matter who stays,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: who goes, They're gonna be good because they have Nicolea
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Jokicic on the roster and they're gonna be worth your time.
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: But I do believe the.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Championship window may have to pause for one season before
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you re engage.
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: The following season.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Might be there.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean by that?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you I know what you know
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: what you mean? I mean, I think this could still
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: be a fifty win basketball team. The question is, can
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: you get by san Antonio and Okase with what you're
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: gonna have with a fifty win teams?
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: You see san Antonio last night?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Did they beat the snut at a mini They.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Played some serious defense last night.
• 32:30
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  Speaker 6: playing and Mosa just showed me something, I have something
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  Speaker 6: to admit.
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  Speaker 5: I need to admit something to everybody.
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  Speaker 7: I think.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't. I can't anymore.
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  Speaker 6: It's not that I could, I just physically cannot conju
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  Speaker 6: a single more bleep to give about this Racini and
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  Speaker 6: vrable thing.
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  Speaker 5: I can't do anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, it's it's so funny you say that.
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  Speaker 1: When the latest came out, I said a simple tweet. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: enough already the piling on that's happening.
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  Speaker 7: We get it, we get it.
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  Speaker 1: He did a scummy thing. He ruined his family. She
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  Speaker 1: did something that's repulsive.
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  Speaker 7: They both did.
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  Speaker 1: Happens every day in this country, happens every day in
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: this world. Happens to different people walking around, happens to
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: someone listening right now, happen to you. But my god,
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  Speaker 1: how many different angles and stories and this and that
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  Speaker 1: it's over.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's weird, VIC is at my wife.
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  Speaker 6: She's obsessed with these awful junk food TV shows, like
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: like Real Housewives and stuff like that. And this is
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: like the most real housewifey thing that the sports community
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  Speaker 6: has produced. And I'm watching, like fifty year old men,
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  Speaker 6: did you see the latest thing? I'm like, I don't care,
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  Speaker 6: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly, they're liars, they're adulterers, they cheated on their families,
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  Speaker 1: they cheat.
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  Speaker 6: Rabel's a cheater. What Rabel did is scumbag stuff. Clearly,
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  Speaker 6: Now most this isn't me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not getting on you for this.
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  Speaker 4: This is just I completely agree.
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  Speaker 5: I see this.
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  Speaker 6: I completely every day it's TMZ is coming out with
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: did you see that? They rode a boat together?
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I, what, what more do you want.
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  Speaker 1: Me to do here? Someone responded to me by I said, Vick,
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  Speaker 1: you're a journalist. Why don't you go out there and
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  Speaker 1: do some journalism?
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  Speaker 6: This is This has been the most in depthly covered
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: story in sports in years. I have never seen people
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  Speaker 6: go to the depths of research and investigation.
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  Speaker 5: On something that ultimately affects two people in their families.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times people get into this because they
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: want to feel better about themselves.
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  Speaker 5: Probably so probably.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, insecurity is a big reason they want to feel
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  Speaker 1: better about their situation. So let's just pick at this
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  Speaker 1: one forever. I mean, this lady's been obliterated. What she
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: did was wrong and obviously, but my god, how many
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: different people are gonna just enough?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, come on, and I'm gonna be going on.
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  Speaker 6: I admit when this first came out, I was kind
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: of like, WHOA, this is pretty not I I was
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: reading stuff about it's been so long.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm just like I.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, we understand, and I also understand.
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  Speaker 6: Vrabel's not getting fired and he's not resigning, and that's
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  Speaker 6: not happening, and now it.
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  Speaker 4: Just feels like it's over.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, uh Texas says.
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  Speaker 6: The only update that people want to know is a
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: Racini son like even that to me, I'm like, I
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  Speaker 6: don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. It doesn't affect me, it doesn't affect
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: And you're right, nothing's gonna happen to Vrabel because that
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  Speaker 1: entire New England outfit has had stuff like this happened,
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  Speaker 1: the entire franchise. You think they care, You think they're
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: gonna act upon this because you care. We're gonna look
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: at Mike Verbel differently now, right, the same Mike Rabel
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  Speaker 1: who after they lost the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 7: Remember how we all praised him.
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  Speaker 1: He sat there at the tunnel, Patty in, every player
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  Speaker 1: on the back here. Don't worry, guys, we'll be back here.
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  Speaker 7: Remember all the love he got.
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  Speaker 1: You're never gonna look at him the same again.
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  Speaker 7: Correct? Correct, that's the penance he will pay you.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Wanta do you want to pivot?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: I got I got some some just last thing, sure,
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Brett test is Brett.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Pablo Torre says, Hello, I know more about this story
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  Speaker 6: than I know about the aspiration. I've read a lot
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  Speaker 6: about the aspiration stuff in La go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I I'm not how to say this, but do you
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  Speaker 2: realize our local baseball team is tied for last in
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the bigs.
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  Speaker 5: You've had a rough go the last time, all right,
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: w I.
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  Speaker 2: Just I know that you haven't done your minute lately.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not gloating. I'm not gloating about it.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that.
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  Speaker 4: They've still got a lot of work to do.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Well, here's what thank God for the crap.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Hopeless San Francisco Giants tied for last place.
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  Speaker 7: Here's what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: And this is why I tried to explain this to
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  Speaker 1: Brett when he first moved to this city. And I tried,
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  Speaker 1: I tried, I tried my darnedness to explain this, and
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't hit home and no one. Every time
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I bring this up, people look at me like, oh,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that's just an excuse. It's not an excuse.
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  Speaker 7: It's actual science.
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  Speaker 1: When this pitching staff goes on the road and achieves
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: things and the era looks better, They look better, and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: then they have to come back home because it's the
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  Speaker 1: only pitching staff in the majors that have to do this,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: that have to return to altitude every other week. No
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: other staff has to do that, only this staff. Eventually
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: it weighs on your staff. Eventually, the arms go wayward,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Eventually fatigue sets in. Eventually they get just torched via
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a seasons. This is the thing that I've been trying
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  Speaker 1: to lay out for you. A lot of it is
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: just where you pitch. You will never and they caught
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  Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle one year, two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 1: second half of that season at the lowest ram baseball.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only time it's ever happened ever in the
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  Speaker 1: history of the Colorado Rockies. It's impossible, impossible, given where
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  Speaker 1: they pitch, to be consistent in that area.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not arguing any of that stuff. Now, it's a
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  Speaker 6: little early in the season for you know, this to
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  Speaker 6: wear on the pitching staff already. I think it's been
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  Speaker 6: a combination of a couple of things, and.
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  Speaker 1: It works both ways.
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  Speaker 7: Two hitters have to adjust.
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  Speaker 6: They've also i mean mets aside. These last couple of games,
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  Speaker 6: they played against two of the best teams in baseball
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  Speaker 6: the last two series. I mean, the way the Braves
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  Speaker 6: and the Reds are playing, they're two of the top
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  Speaker 6: teams in the sport.
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  Speaker 5: And you aren't that good yet. So that's part of it.
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  Speaker 6: Now the Mets, this one's weird because you have the
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  Speaker 6: game postpone. Your play in thirty degree weather last night.
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  Speaker 6: It's if you've ever played baseball in thirty degree temperatures,
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  Speaker 6: it's one of the most awful things I think you
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  Speaker 6: can do. You can't feel that the tips of your
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  Speaker 6: fingers when you try and throw a ball, you get
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  Speaker 6: a round ball.
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  Speaker 5: At a third you throw it to the first off
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  Speaker 5: the end of the.
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  Speaker 6: And if you feel that for two straight, your whole
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: body is like, so yeah, this is And I've said
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  Speaker 6: this before, the Rockies are gonna have these parts of
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  Speaker 6: the year where they just they're gonna stink because they
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: aren't that good yet. But uh, the pitching staff, without
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  Speaker 6: a doubt. The last the six game losing streak they're on,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, they've given up a bunch around. It's been six, eight, nine, eleven,
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  Speaker 6: four and ten. Last night, I will say this, they
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  Speaker 6: got to win today. Today is going to be you know,
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  Speaker 6: seventy degrees. It's gonna be a one to ten game
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  Speaker 6: against the Mets. The Mets stink. You shouldn't get swept
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  Speaker 6: by them. You got to pull one out here, Brett.
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  Speaker 6: You know, the same thing happens to the Rockies hitters too.
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  Speaker 6: You realize that you're sure an altitude the ball's not breaking.
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  Speaker 6: You could dial in the ball, and then all of
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  Speaker 6: a sudden, the next day you're playing in San Diego.
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  Speaker 6: What the hell that thing broke like three feet That
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  Speaker 6: didn't happen at altitude. You got to readjust it happens
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  Speaker 6: throughout the.
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  Speaker 5: Course of the year.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's science. It's literally science.
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  Speaker 5: No I understand that.
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  Speaker 6: But there's gonna be you know, the Rockies are not
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  Speaker 6: as bad as they were last year. They're gonna have,
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  Speaker 6: you know, another stretch or they win four out of
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  Speaker 6: five or something. That's gonna happen. But they're gonna have
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  Speaker 6: more of these than.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: They are the four out of five stretches.
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  Speaker 6: And this is just I, like I said, you play
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  Speaker 6: back to back series against the Reds in the Braves,
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  Speaker 6: who are two of the best teams in baseball. You're
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: gonna get beat up and the Mets series is just
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  Speaker 6: weird with the weather they've had to deal with during
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: this so we'll see today. I think is a big
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  Speaker 6: game though, to make sure you don't get swept again,
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  Speaker 6: especially by a Mets team who's not very good.
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  Speaker 5: Go out, get dub and try and bounce back.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: This is the getaway.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: So you're you're heading back east for six three games
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  Speaker 2: set in Philly, a three games set in Pittsboy, I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you what for.
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  Speaker 5: Being this early in the season. You know, they're thirty
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  Speaker 5: seven games in.
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  Speaker 6: The encouraging thing because this has been a problem over
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  Speaker 6: the last few years. The Rockies haven't been hitting for
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  Speaker 6: average very much because they've struck out a lot, and
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: they've really cut down on the k's. You guys seen
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: Troy Johnston's hitting three twenty four, Tyler Freeman's hitting two
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  Speaker 6: ninety two, Rumfield who homered again last night two seventy two,
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Mickey Moniacs hitting three twenty seven, Donald Rumsel. They got
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: guys who are hitting the ball pretty well. It's just
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  Speaker 6: they're having trouble doing the combination of they get a
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: good pitching night, they can't get the run support. They
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: get the run support one night, they can't get the
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: pitching sport, so.
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  Speaker 2: Leaving leaving guys on Yeah, it's either you're leaving everybody
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: on base, you're not gett anybody on base.
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: But again, the Rocks just aren't very good yet and
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: they're gonna have these stretches where this happens.
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  Speaker 5: But yes, three oh three five O four nine two five. Uh,
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: we'll get back to the abs in.
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  Speaker 7: Just a bit.
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  Speaker 5: Because I got a question about Quinn Hughes.
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  Speaker 2: Really that, yeah, because is the one that I can answer.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Is it just some sort of rhetorical Brett Kane question
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: or Vick Lombardy question to the win?
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: That's not so much a question more than a comment.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: But I think you're gonna agree with me, so we'll
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: get that up. We'll get to that in just a
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: couple of minutes. Speaking of baseball, Nellie, can you set
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: up this? You have this Pete Fairbanks being interviewed by
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: Jeff Passon what we got here?
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  Speaker 9: I think the clip just speaks for itself. Why don't
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: you let a roll.
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  Speaker 11: Pete Fairbanks closer for the Miami Marlins. You have been
• 42:28
  Speaker 11: dry humped many many times in your life. Can you
• 42:31
  Speaker 11: please tell us what dry humping in baseball.
• 42:35
  Speaker 12: Is the dry hemp is win. As a reliever, they
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: call down and say, hey, in most cases it's tied,
• 42:40
  Speaker 12: her ahead, so and so is in the game. You
• 42:42
  Speaker 12: start warm enough. Obviously there's degrees of it. The worst
• 42:45
  Speaker 12: dry humps are the ones to which you then have
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: to fire it off and be as warm as you
• 42:50
  Speaker 12: would be to go in a game with no guarantee
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: that you go in a game, and if you then
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: say your team does not score the run, you sit
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: back down and you have been dry humped.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like that phrasing at all. I don't like
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: that at all.
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  Speaker 6: Ye know, if you remember, Pete Fairbanks is a very
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: famous person on this show in particular. Now he go
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: ahead and look in the archives. Just look up Pete
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: Fairbanks and you'll find a very very famous clip of
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: one Vic Lombardi discussing this.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: It's it's really an old timers what it is.
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  Speaker 9: At one Emoji in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 5: It's one of my favorites, oh.
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  Speaker 4: Two years ago at one Emosi Award. I love it, Vic.
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: So if you guys missed it, that man Pete Fairbanks
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: talking about that term. This is what Vic had to
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: say about him once.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: Then you got the opposing reliever, black Torch, crying about
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: the ball.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Here, I say the Rockets played a little bit better.
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: I called him black Torch.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I know his name.
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: I didn't realize there was that sensitive to a picture.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: I didn't realize when when black Horse, what's his name?
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: Black House? I think it's Fairbanks, Fairbanks.
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  Speaker 13: I'm not even close. It's one of my favorite, like Georch,
• 44:02
  Speaker 13: black Horse, fair Bank, Marty with the most public I
• 44:08
  Speaker 13: think it's Fairbanks.
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: And then Fairbanks himself also had this banger, which was
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: another EMOJI nominated clip.
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  Speaker 3: No, I thought it generally sucked.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a specific suck.
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: I thought it was like an all encompassing type of suck.
• 44:23
  Speaker 12: So you know, we're gonna try and rectify that. But
• 44:25
  Speaker 12: for I now, I'm gonna be pretty best about it.
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  Speaker 6: Don't worry.
• 44:28
  Speaker 11: Do you kind of go from here?
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: Is it looking at tape?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Is it going through mechanics?
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Where do you kind of go from here?
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: You tell me I've tried that. You got an answer,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: I'd love to hear. An all encompassing suck is a
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: pretty good term too. Could use that for a whole
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: bunch of different things.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, I do want to get to the
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: abs and most A comment about Quinn Hughes.
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: Yes, can he.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: Would stand doing this every night. I'll explain next