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- 0:16Speaker 2: Jamie McKay is with us host of the Country Jamie
- 0:18Speaker 2: Good Evening.
- 0:20Speaker 3: God a Ryan.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Now, beef prices heading record highers in the US just
- 0:24Speaker 2: in time for the barbecue season over there.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Americans, I think burgers, hamburgers all year round.
- 0:32Speaker 3: That's what they want our beef for. But unbelievable prices
- 0:36Speaker 3: in the US at the moment, Ryan, bodeswell for American
- 0:40Speaker 3: consumers to continue to pay the base tariff rate of
- 0:44Speaker 3: ten percent. That is, of course, if the base tariff
- 0:47Speaker 3: rate stays at ten percent, that's another story for another day.
- 0:50Speaker 3: But my US correspondent, a guy from Lexington, Kentucky, was
- 0:54Speaker 3: on the show today. They had one thousand pounds stairs
- 0:57Speaker 3: we'll just over one thousand pounds in imperial measurements, and
- 1:01Speaker 3: they sold for over three thousand US per head. That's
- 1:04Speaker 3: over five thousand New Zealand dollars per cattle beast. Now,
- 1:09Speaker 3: I did some maths on this one. Those thousand and
- 1:12Speaker 3: thirty eight pounds equate to four hundred and seventy two kilos,
- 1:16Speaker 3: which equates to six dollars thirty eight are kilogram US dollars.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Convert that to New Zealand dollars at a sixty cent
- 1:24Speaker 3: exchange rate, you've got ten dollars sixty three and that
- 1:26Speaker 3: is running round in the paddock that's on the hoof.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Ryan.
- 1:30Speaker 3: By the time you process that animal and get the
- 1:34Speaker 3: yield at sixty percent I sixty percent meat, forty percent
- 1:39Speaker 3: the rest is thrown away. That equates to seventeen dollars
- 1:42Speaker 3: seventy per kilogram in New Zealand money. Currently, New Zealand
- 1:46Speaker 3: farmers are being paid eight to eight dollars fifty a
- 1:49Speaker 3: kilogram for beef, so they're paying enormous prices for beef
- 1:53Speaker 3: in the US at the moment.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it too, Jamie Beef and Lamb
- 1:57Speaker 2: here and the Meat Industry Association pointing out some potential
- 2:01Speaker 2: loopholes on the government's plan for a ban on farm
- 2:05Speaker 2: to forestry conversions. What's happening with this, Yeah.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Well, they're saying they need to tighten some of these
- 2:10Speaker 3: loopholes because there's too many people sneaking through. And I'm
- 2:14Speaker 3: with them on this. When I think we're almost shutting
- 2:16Speaker 3: the stable door after the horse has bolted because the
- 2:18Speaker 3: government made the announcement on the fourth of December last year.
- 2:21Speaker 3: Down in Southland, there's been heaps of conversions happening, some
- 2:25Speaker 3: going through the back door since then. So what they're
- 2:28Speaker 3: saying is they want the government to extend the proposed
- 2:31Speaker 3: mauratorium on whole farm conversions blanket planting of farms to
- 2:36Speaker 3: all land classes, not just classes one to five. Otherwise,
- 2:41Speaker 3: they're saying it's just going to have a too big
- 2:44Speaker 3: an effect on the pastoral industry in this country. They're
- 2:47Speaker 3: also saying, and this is another one, New Zealand's the
- 2:49Speaker 3: only country in the world ryan aside from Kazakhstan, that
- 2:54Speaker 3: places no restrictions on the use of forestry offsets. We're
- 2:58Speaker 3: allowed hundred percent offsetting here for exalting plantings to go
- 3:03Speaker 3: into the ets. No other country but Kazakhstan does that.
- 3:07Speaker 3: And they're throwing some numbers out there just for good measure.
- 3:09Speaker 3: They're saying since twenty seventeen, and the forestry people will
- 3:12Speaker 3: probably argue against these, but they're saying since twenty seventeen,
- 3:16Speaker 3: three hundred thousand hectares of whole sheep and beef farms
- 3:20Speaker 3: have been sold to forestry interest, some of it, to
- 3:23Speaker 3: be fair, is into production forestry. They're estimating a further
- 3:27Speaker 3: fifty thousand hectares is going to go before these new
- 3:30Speaker 3: rules take effect later this year. They're saying this could
- 3:33Speaker 3: lead to a million hectares lost by the year twenty fifty.
- 3:38Speaker 3: They're saying these land use changes could reduce livestock numbers
- 3:41Speaker 3: by two and a half million stock units and shrinth
- 3:44Speaker 3: the sheep and beef sectors grassland base by up to
- 3:48Speaker 3: twenty percent. So they're not good numbers. Yes, the problem continues.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Hey, what about fed farmers because we've spoken before about
- 3:56Speaker 2: groundswell right behind pulling out of the Paris Agreement, but
- 4:00Speaker 2: fed farmers not lobbying the government to do that.
- 4:03Speaker 3: No, well fed farmers has gone into bat with other
- 4:06Speaker 3: industry good bodies like dairy and z and BEF and
- 4:08Speaker 3: LAMB on this one. President Wayne Langford is a fairly
- 4:12Speaker 3: solid sort of thinker, to my way of thinking, said
- 4:15Speaker 3: he sat in rooms with dairy company leaders who say
- 4:18Speaker 3: that it could shave as much as three dollars off
- 4:21Speaker 3: the dairy price a kilogram of milk solids, So why
- 4:24Speaker 3: would we even be talking about it? On contrast, that
- 4:28Speaker 3: Groundswell co leader Bryce Lawrence. I was going to say,
- 4:31Speaker 3: he's a rugby referee. Hello Bryce, if you're listening, Bryce
- 4:35Speaker 3: mackenzie isn't surprised. He said Federated Farmers normally take a
- 4:39Speaker 3: more conservative line than they do and they could be
- 4:42Speaker 3: working strategically with the government. He says, though, Federated Farmers
- 4:46Speaker 3: had better be careful because they're a subscription paying organization.
- 4:51Speaker 3: If they don't do what their members want, they mightn't
- 4:53Speaker 3: get those subscriptions. He says he should I say the
- 4:59Speaker 3: Kate Kate Ackland from Beef and Land, New Zealand says
- 5:02Speaker 3: we would join a small group of countries outside the
- 5:04Speaker 3: agreement if we got out of Paris, Libya, Yemen, ran
- 5:08Speaker 3: Eritrea and South Sudan. She did neglect, however, to mention
- 5:12Speaker 3: the elephant or the orange elephant in the room the US.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Yeah, a good point too, Jamie. Thank you for that,
- 5:18Speaker 2: Jamie McKay, Host of the Country Here on News Talks Big.
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