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Angela isn’t allowed to summon Santa Claus · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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Well, did you guys survive the curse of Krampus
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in every town anywhere in Michigan all month?
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I somehow managed to escape it. Same here. I
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think, Ben, you're the only one that got lured
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into Krampus. I did Krampus briefly, but I survived.
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I did make an obligatory AI post of Krampus attacking
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us. I had to. But we are the only, I think, paranormal
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podcast that all we did to celebrate Krampus
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was a stupid AI post. And instead of a Christmas
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special, we're talking about Santa. Yeah. Because
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he's... Angela says he's real. Welcome to our
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podcast, where we take deep dives looking at
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various topics through a paranormal lens. So,
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you know, my nightly routine of scrolling through
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TikTok the other night, and there was this post
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I saw of these girls being like, I know what
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I saw. I believe in Santa. i know it wasn't my
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parents i know what i saw and i was looking at
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the comments sorry that sounds like the intro
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to a christmas song it does and i'm like what
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the heck is this lady talking about so i decided
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to look at the comments and i was like wow there's
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a bunch of people who actually like genuinely
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believe in santa that they think it's like an
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actual spirit or he's a real person or whatever
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because they're like yeah when i was a kid i
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heard the sleigh laying on the roof and i heard
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the the clickety clacks of the reindeer's feet
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and the bells of the sleigh and i'm like these
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people are nutso's but like i'm i'm for it actually
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they may not not might not be nutso's maybe they
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maybe it is real you never know but that's how
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this topic came to be And it's perfect because
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it's Christmas. So Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.
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And it's not Krampus. It's like we're we don't
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need to go to Krampus. We can just keep talking
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about Santa, but through a paranormal lens. Exactly.
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Merry Chrysler. I say that all the time with
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Ben around. He has no clue what I'm talking about.
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No. Have you never seen the vines? As a Jew,
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I didn't really watch Christmas vines. That's
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so fair. Yeah. I also never heard Santa Claus
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come in my house because he never gave me gifts.
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Yeah. But I have heard of many an egregore in
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my life. and this is giving egregore vibes is
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this kind of where you're going with this that
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so many people believe in santa that it's created
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some sort of entity that through the belief and
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it's real i didn't see anyone talking about that
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but that makes a lot of sense it makes sense
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i heard literally something on the radio today
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like chris kringle like came over from Was it,
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like, Polish tradition? And Kris Kringle means
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Christ Child and coming of Christ Child and,
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like, being at Christmas is about the coming
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of Jesus. I think that's what it is. Kris Kringle
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is, like, a representation for Santa. Kind of,
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but what I've been seeing is... It's just a bunch
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of combinations between, like, a mix of gods,
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spirits, and saints, and a bunch of different
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storytellings that all combined it into, like,
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what is now the modern Santa Claus. Yeah, Christmas
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and Santa Claus. I mean, I feel like that's most,
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a lot of major holidays. Yeah. Because, like,
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I mean, this is getting off the topic of... Santa
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and just going off like into the topic of holidays
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with specifically like Christmas and Easter and
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Halloween. I mean, they were all originally like
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holidays for in other cultures and religions.
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And then when Christianity started, like as England
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spread across the world and Europe spread. across
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the world and was spreading their religion and
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all that, they took on the practices of some
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of the local religions and Christianized them.
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It just kind of all got intertwined and mixed
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together. It's a hodgepodge of different cultures
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to create this one unified holiday that comes
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from many different things like the yule log
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and the christmas tree and saint nicholas and
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all these things are all different things in
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different cultures but have been taken and combined
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yeah like like um when europe became and was
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settling in america the dutch settlers um they
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would call santa claus and i don't know if i'm
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gonna be saying this right knowing you probably
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not Sinterloss? Sinterloss? Perklaws? Something
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like that. I'm totally butchering this name.
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I'm totally butchering this name. I'm sure if
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we saw it, if we saw it on the screen, we'd be
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like, oh, that thing. Yeah. But no, no, that
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was the name that the Dutch brung over to America.
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I mean, like, if you guys know what this... how
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to properly pronounce this name. Ignore how I'm
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saying it. Okay. Go ahead. Throwback to the exorcism
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episode. If Angela starts speaking fluent Dutch
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on the next podcast, we know she's possessed.
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Would that mean I'm possessed by Sinterklaas?
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She'd be possessed by the Christmas spirit. Yes.
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Okay. Krampus. No. Okay, okay. Reeling it in.
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Honestly, from what you've said so far, I think
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in my head, like, you have to, like, separate,
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like, Santa, like, coming down the chimney Santa,
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and, like, eating cookies Santa, like, the big
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guy. But, like, if you take that out of it, right?
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What's the difference between believing in Santa,
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like, the idea, and, like, a god? just as an
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example like if it started isn't someone you
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someone that people worship true but it started
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off yeah sorry go ahead oh no no you're good
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you're sorry i get i'm getting excited because
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i thought this was very interesting in the north
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world there was the spirit or god named odin
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which was a pagan god and He was, it was during,
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like, the Yule, which was the winter solstice
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festival. That's when he was pretty much more
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known for, like, I mean, that's, like, that's,
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like, a god to some people. Yeah. I mean, like,
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in Santa Claus, like, Odin had a big impact in
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what made the modern Santa Claus. Like, for example,
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he would also, like. Like the reindeers and the
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sleigh and stuff. Instead of the reindeers, he
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ride in an eight -legged horse. Which was one
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of Loki's children. And yeah, so yeah, I mean.
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Yeah. So the Bible or whatever, they took the
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eight -legged horse child and turned it into
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a reindeer. This isn't in the Bible. What? Sorry.
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Also, Santa's not in the Bible. Oh. So that only
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proves the point. Listen, I know shit about Santa.
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This is all just like, you guys are educating
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me. You also know shit about the Bible, it sounds
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like, too, which makes sense because you're not
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even Christian. Sounds like it. You guys are
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the edumacators this episode. But what's interesting,
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I know this is also very off -topic compared
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to what we're talking about, but when you say,
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like, the eight -legged horse that Odin rode,
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the, it's, theorize that it's not actually like
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eight -legged it was just depicted that way to
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show movement yeah so anyways just had to say
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that because i love that fact um people don't
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know that though yeah but anyways it's it's interesting
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because like it if the possibility that santa
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claus or like some of his depictions could have
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come from other cultures and he's saying like
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could have been based off of like gods in some
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sort and i'm like well nobody prays to santa
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or like worship santa but then you do encourage
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children to write wish lists to him yeah oh yeah
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that's what i was thinking the whole time it's
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like And you do leave cookies and milk for him.
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That's another thing that people did for Odin.
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The children would leave a lot of food and gifts
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for blessings from him and stuff like that. I
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feel like the others would be giving to the brave
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and generous. but would punish the bad. And that's
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just kind of like where also the naughty and
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nice came from too. Yeah. Another interesting
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thing is like, I think Odin, one of like the
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things that he was known for was like being all
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seeing. And so is Santa. Like he can, he sees
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you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're
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awake. Not all the eyes. Okay, I know like heaven
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and hell sometimes got like hung over your heads.
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Did Santa ever get hung over your heads? Yes,
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absolutely. It was like, hey, don't do that.
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Santa is watching you. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Bree,
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did you believe in Santa? Yeah, of course I did.
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My household tradition was to leave cookies and
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Coke and Oh, I got things to say about Coca -Cola,
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too. And carrots for the reindeer. And then we'd
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also make magic reindeer food, which was literally,
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I think, oatmeal and glitter. And we'd sprinkle
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it outside at night for the reindeer to eat,
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to gain their magic, to continue flying. Yeah,
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I think there was one year. We used to have a
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fireplace in our house. My parents actually took
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like one of my dad's big boots and like sprinkled
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powdered sugar around it or flour. So it looked
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like boot prints out of the fireplace. Oh, that
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reminds me. There's the for the fireplace and
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Santa coming down the fireplace that the legend
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of Hertha. which was a goddess who would appear
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in fireplaces to bring good luck to people um
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to people's houses because of the bad spirits
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who'd come down the chimney during the winter
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time frame and so as another thing two homeowners
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um back then would leave treats to like satisfy
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this god to protect the bad spirits from coming
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down but oh interesting it kind of just shows
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that all these little things combined to make
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into modern santa yeah oh the thing about saying
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how santa would come down the chimney some people
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say that santa is actually the devil too um what
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yeah did you ever hear of this i haven't i haven't
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heard of it but i can understand where some people
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may say that but i want to hear what you have
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to say before so i mean i don't know if i i mean
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it makes sense what people are saying but so
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it's like first of all you can't Spell Santa
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without Satan. My phone autocorrects Satan. When
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I type in Santa, it does Satan. Yeah. Autocorrect.
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Santa is actually just the devil in disguise.
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Like an anagram? Yes, they say that Santa is
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just an anagram of Satan. Yeah. Is it because,
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like, Santa and the idea of, like, he's almost,
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like, an idol of greed or, like, one? something
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like that the name nick or nicholas which is
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um saint nicholas but people believe believe
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so my mom literally just passed me a note um
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she's like i she was she was trying to tell me
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saint nicholas was an actual priest yes and he
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would leave coins on windowsills yeah yeah um
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and front doors at night you know the funny thing
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too is when I was researching him some people
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don't believe he was an actual person yes well
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that's the thing with saints is they are actual
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people yeah like Saint Teresa was an actual person
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that's like one of the most recent ordained saints
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in our time like they're actual people that the
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church recognized as being saints like messengers
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speakers for god um yeah and so saint nicholas
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is pretty like an actual recognized priest yeah
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that's that's what i believe too but i was just
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like when i was um kind of looking into his name
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a little bit more some people don't believe him
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because i think they get so i got something mixed
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up from like the 1960s and 1970s or something
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that kind of just they thought it was him them
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like confessing that it was like a fabrication
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but it was really just saying like he's not as
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important anymore or something like that i don't
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know i don't know exactly i don't can we can
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we just go back we were talking about a saint
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now and you guys you just dropped that santa
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is an anagram for satan and then just moved on
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in like two seconds but i'm still gonna talk
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about the name nick and nicholas though really
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quick okay well yes but then we're going back
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to this devil in disguise stuff okay But from
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the German and Scandinavian, the word or name
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or whatever, Nick or Nicholas, means dangerous,
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supernatural, supernatural creatures, goblins,
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mischievous. Okay, that's where you're going
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with it. And for the English and Northern European
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languages and folklores, people use the name
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Old Nick to use to call the devil. Oh, I had
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never heard that before. Yeah. I mean, in, in
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like, it would kind of make sense, like even
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without those explanations for some people to
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think of Santa as more of like a not so good,
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closer to Satan being. Because he is kind of
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representation of the trickster greed and temptation,
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like the things you want, but don't necessarily
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need. I don't know. Yeah. Kind of takes away
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the true meaning of Christmas, which is not the
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giving. It's not the receiving. It's the giving.
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It's not even really about Santa. No, it's not
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even really about Santa. It's not actually. It's
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not really. It's not actually about Santa. No.
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I mean, Santa really is something that was really.
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Oh my god, where did my brain go? Every episode
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starts with... It's gone! I'm watching it float
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across the ceiling. Every episode, okay? There's
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a trend here that we're going to leave in 2025.
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Angela, within the first minute, asks, what's
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the topic? So, anyone wanting to plan for New
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Year's? If you start any episode of our show
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at 11 .59 p .m., Angela will ask what's the topic
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right before the ball drops. That's guaranteed
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any episode. What's the topic? Woo! Happy New
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Year! Okay. Every episode. But then Angela knows
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what's going on within like five minutes. Then...
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You look so mad about this right now, Angela.
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I have a timer. Around the 20 -minute mark of
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every episode, Brianna makes some sort of comment
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about her brain. Sometimes, sometimes it's that
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he has a good brain and the brain is treating
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her well. Sometimes it's where did my brain go?
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Oh my God, I lost a brain cell. Some sort of
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brain comment is always around. It's usually
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that I've lost my mind. I have no idea what's
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going on anymore. I don't even remember what
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I was talking about and the fact that, okay.
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Is there like a hive mind between the two of
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you where like you guys, one of you has to like
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not know what the topic is and the other has
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to like. We share a brain cell and it just bounces
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back and forth. We do say stuff in sync together
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a lot. It creeps me out. For everyone listening,
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the two of them, Angela and Bree, they're like
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the shining fucking sisters. I feel bad swearing
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in the Christmas episode. Whatever. Fuck. The
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two of them say shit in unison all the time and
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it creeps me out. are our like signs the same
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or something uh no no no i don't think so we're
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very close like i think you're you're like right
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at the tail like tail end of being a virgo but
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you're not you're a libra i didn't know if something
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like that would influence us being oh no probably
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not no we're just on the same wavelength my guy
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Yeah, I think we are, honestly. So, I don't remember
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what I was talking about before my brain up and
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left. I think it was something about doubles
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and stuff and about what Christmas really is,
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but it's not anything to do with Santa. Oh, yeah,
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yeah, yeah. It's, um, because I was going to
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say that Santa kind of like valentine's day is
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something that's been more capitalized on within
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like society and big box offices to sell things
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for christmas i don't know that's all i was going
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with that oh like like santa is to like capitalize
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yeah and stuff into or yeah like it was this
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idea that like we've said has been a conglomeration
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of a whole bunch of different cultures religions
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uh different gods practices people saints that
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has become just this one big conglomerate that
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the society and um marketing decided was hey
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we can make money off of this yeah that's what
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coca -cola did yes so like yeah it did coca -cola
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when was this early 1900s when was coca -cola
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thing anyway i don't know one fact about coca
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-cola you all is that coca -cola was seen as
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a summer thing and not a winter like drink so
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like sales were really down for coca -cola so
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they're like what can we do to get people to
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buy some more of our coke During the winter.
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And they were like, oh, I know. Let's relate
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it to Christmas. And that's when Santa got the
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look of, you know... Drinking the glass Coke
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bottle. And wearing the red and white beard type
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of look. Which wasn't really a thing before Coca
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-Cola took it over. I didn't realize the red
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and white look. Huh? I said, I mean... santa
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didn't really have that look i mean he kind of
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did but didn't i think i think coca -cola is
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what really took them over to over the edge of
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yeah because i feel like traditionally like more
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like more traditionally people put uh santa like
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santa and more of like scandinavian yeah clothing
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um but yeah i don't know where the red and white
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theme came from but it would make sense if that
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was I think that's what it was. I think it's
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Coca -Cola is what gave him the Santa the red
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and white outfit, you know. And that's kind of
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what spread around the world to be the normal
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look of Santa now. I did look it up. It was 1930s.
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Okay. I don't think either any of us can speak
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to. Really how Santa was viewed before then,
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because I don't think any of us were celebrating
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Christmas in the 20s. Did we get any grandparents
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who lived before that time? Oh, what? No, my
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grandma was born in, like, 1936. Maybe she would
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know. That was post -Coke. That was post -Coke.
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That was post -Coke. That's 1930s, though. Like,
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maybe she had... That's still up in the Coke
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era. True. But when was it that Coca -Cola introduced
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the Santa Claus marketing for Coca -Cola? I guess
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these are very specific questions that we'd have
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to ask a marketing expert on. Or Google. No.
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Yeah. Anyways. Anyways. I don't know. Any other
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thoughts about Santa? I got a question. Just
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like a fun little question. What made you, Bree,
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to realize Santa wasn't real? What was your childhood
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moment where you were like, oh, he's not real?
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You know, I was getting older and like... there's
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at a point when every kid is like i feel like
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i'm too old to believe in santa anymore but what
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really sold me was like we were opening our stockings
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and um you know it was like all of us it was
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like me and my siblings and my grandparents were
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down at our house and we were all open our stockings
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because we we saved the stockings till the last
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part of the day when everyone's there and um
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We got done opening our stockings, and my grandpa
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was looking at some of the stuff that my brother
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had gotten his, and he picked up something. He's
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like, oh, where did you get this? Talking to
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my mom, asking her where she got this stuff from
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my brother's stocking. And then I'm like, yeah.
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And everyone's like, shush, shush, shush. And
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I'm like... You were like, you know, I already
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knew. It's all good. Yeah, yeah. But, you know,
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like, me and my brother would always, like, try
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to stay up late, and it would never work. And
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I remember there was one night my brother and
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I tried to stay up late, and of course we couldn't.
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And he had stayed up so late, and he had, like,
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been watching the fireplace because he could
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see the fireplace from his bedroom kind of thing.
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He fell asleep and he's like, I swear I only
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fell asleep for like three minutes. And then
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when I woke back up, there were presents everywhere
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and the stockings were filled. And I'm like,
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wow, that's so magical. So it's really crazy
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what my parents did growing up to make Christmas
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morning feel so magical sometimes. Because, yeah,
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there'd be gifts and stuff under the tree, but
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the stockings would be empty. and we'd wake up
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and everything would just be a million times
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more than what it was and yeah i felt so bad
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for my now i feel so bad from my parents because
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they probably would stay up until six seven 8
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a .m. and then we'd wake up and be like, oh my
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gosh, Santa came. They're too tired for this.
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Oh my gosh. Just five more minutes. Yeah, but
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what about you, Angela? I feel like you stopped
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believing, I think, last year I was there with
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you. I ruined it for you. I think. So, I mean,
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I kind of just casually learned like, oh, you
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know, got older. didn't believe in santa but
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there was one time i noticed that every time
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santa left his presence under the tree compared
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to my parents presence always had a different
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handwriting on the nose so who it's like for
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who the present belongs to and I realized I eventually
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made a connection that it was just my dad's handwriting
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and not my mom's handwriting and I was like this
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is suspicious and I don't like this so that's
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really what made me like uh oh And I found her
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secret stash of Santa Claus, of their, like,
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Santa's wrapping paper. Because there was the
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normal bin of what my parents would use. And
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there was always the wrapping paper that only
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Santa used. Yep, that you cannot, I could not
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find anywhere. But then I found it one time.
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And, yep. That's my story. We also, like, um,
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Christmas paper. like color code everyone's gifts
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like oh okay these ones are all for dustin or
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these are all for brianna or these are all for
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mom um more recently it's been like i bought
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this roll of wrapping paper i'm wrapping everyone's
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gifts in these ours ours is always just totally
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random like i think my mom switches every present
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that or whatever Or type of gift to a different
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type of wrapping paper. And I just, I don't know.
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It looked very chaotic under the tree. But I
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always liked it. Yeah, that sounds like fun.
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I just find this whole Santa thing very interesting.
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Because I still don't quite understand. Because
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Christmas is about. dang i can't talk is about
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jesus being boring yeah you guys you guys notice
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both of your brain farts this episode have been
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explaining what christmas is really about so
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how about i cue you in okay this as the person
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who doesn't celebrate yeah as as a person doesn't
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celebrate let me tell you christmas is truly
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about wait i kind of i lost it christ I lost
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it. Hold on. It's coming back. I thought you
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were saying Jesus Christ as, like, Jesus Christ
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Ben is making another joke. Oh, no. That I'm
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Jesus Christ? I'm actually, like, talking about,
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like, Jesus, you know? The one and only Jesus.
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But I just, like, I still find it very interesting
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because, like, if this is what it's really about...
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I just find it mind -blowing how all these, like,
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pagan and other type of, like, Odin and that
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type of thing came crawling into Christmas and
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how it's celebrated combined with... So here's
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the thing. Jesus wasn't actually born in December.
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No, yeah, I think he was, like... It was more
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summertime. Yeah. And... But in the Catholic
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calendar, it was kind of like too close to Easter,
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which is when Christ died on the cross. So to
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like separate it out, they put one at the beginning
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of the year, like at the different solstices.
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And when converting other people from their religions
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like paganism, which was viewed as demonic, to
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Christianity, it made more sense to take their
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holidays, the winter solstice, or Yule, or any
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of these other traditions that were going on
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in December, and saying, actually, hey, this
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happened. Jesus was born on this day. we should
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be celebrating jesus on this day and not this
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paganistic tradition but hey we'll take some
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of your traditions and add them in so it isn't
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confused about why would they do that if they
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view the paganism and stuff is evil and demonic
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and then like why would they i don't know i don't
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know it just doesn't make sense anyways i do
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have a question for you guys so this Something
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that's interesting to me is like I'm going to
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use the word spirit here, but like Santa and
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speaking Odin, you know, these other gods and
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more metaphysical sense like Santa is a being
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right as opposed to like a guy that comes on
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the chimney and gives you gifts. If Santa remained
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more metaphysical in the sense like he is a spirit,
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the spirit of Christmas as opposed to like a
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dude that comes in your house and gives you presents.
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Would you still believe in Santa, the spirit?
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Is it a physical... It's interesting to me that
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it changed so drastically from a metaphysical
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thing to this goofy Coca -Cola. Well, that's
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the thing. Santa himself is not... I don't know.
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He's not, like, celebrated as, like, a Christian
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deity. No. Right, that's why I used the word
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spirit. If it was more of a spiritual, like,
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a spirit. Like, the spirit of Christmas. Is there
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a spirit of Christmas? Do you guys feel and believe
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a spirit of Christmas? Wouldn't that just be
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Jesus? Sure. Call it Jesus. Or just the joy of
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the season. Call it the joy of the season embodying
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itself as what we call Santa. I don't know. Maybe.
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I don't know. Where are you getting at this?
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Are you saying we're going to come in about the
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whole Egregore type of thing? No. No, I don't.
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We can go that direction. I don't think it's
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necessary at this point. I mean, people know
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what Egregores are. We know what Egregores are.
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I'm just thinking like. it's interesting if santa
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remained a more metaphysical type of spiritual
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thing i don't know it might i mean it it is possible
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because like if you think about it like um i
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mean even getting on the technical side like
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supposedly santa visits every single child's
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house in one night which is physically impossible
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unless you are some sort of spiritual being.
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I was gonna say it's not impossible if you're
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some sort of unworldly thing, you know what I
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mean? So, if it is an entity, do you... I mean,
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do you guys believe in Santa, the entity? No.
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Okay, if you believe in, like, other gods, maybe
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like Odin or whatever, You could say you believe
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in Santa. Okay, do you know what my next question
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is going to be? What? If you can summon Odin,
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can you summon Santa? You know, that's what I
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was thinking. That's what I was thinking. But
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don't try to do that because you're going to
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misspell it and it's going to... gonna end up
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being satan and then it's it's just yeah you're
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gonna type you're gonna type it out on your phone
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you're gonna type it out on your phone the ritual
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to summon santa and it's gonna autocorrect and
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you just start reading and you're like i summon
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in the vehicles of everyone who's who's listening
34:14
to this podcast while driving to work on christmas
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