Latest / Tea Time w/Amie & Bev / Episode #312: Energy Mistakes of Massage Therapists
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to tea time with Amy and bev Welcome.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, welcome kind of conversation. Huh do you have
- 0:12Speaker 2: the AI companion on I do? I think, yeah, son, Okay, sorry,
- 0:20Speaker 2: it didn't show as it was going, So.
- 0:24Speaker 1: We do that. So I have the notes, so when
- 0:26Speaker 1: I go back and create the post, then I have
- 0:30Speaker 1: the information. So thanks. I recently had a conversation with
- 0:38Speaker 1: a massage therapist and one of HER's she's practiced massage,
- 0:45Speaker 1: this massage in another state and recently moved here and
- 0:53Speaker 1: we were having a conversation and she's she's working on
- 0:59Speaker 1: her confident but one of the things she said was
- 1:05Speaker 1: I'm scared of giving people my negative energy. I was like, oh, girl,
- 1:16Speaker 1: so if you gave me a massage, you'd be scared
- 1:18Speaker 1: to give me your negative energy. And she's like yes,
- 1:20Speaker 1: And I said, okay, Well, first of all, it's your responsibility,
- 1:26Speaker 1: but not your responsibility. So the responsibility really relies on
- 1:29Speaker 1: me to maintain my energy. So majority of the population
- 1:37Speaker 1: isn't aware of that majority of the population or is
- 1:40Speaker 1: just open willy nilly, and everybody's absorbing each other's energy,
- 1:45Speaker 1: and so yes, is it possible that yes you can.
- 1:49Speaker 1: And I explained to her my experience when I first
- 1:53Speaker 1: started doing energy work and absorbing the sensations that people
- 2:00Speaker 1: were experiencing in their own body with pain. And I said,
- 2:05Speaker 1: so there's a difference between absorbing energy and observing energy,
- 2:11Speaker 1: and I had to learn those those two things, I said.
- 2:15Speaker 1: But absorbing energy is I'm not maintaining my energy and
- 2:20Speaker 1: I'm just open to it, so I said. And the
- 2:23Speaker 1: flip side of that is you absorbing other people's energy
- 2:27Speaker 1: as the massage therapist and learning to maintain your energy.
- 2:32Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a kind of like a
- 2:35Speaker 1: barrier between the two of you, he said. And on
- 2:39Speaker 1: the other side of that, though, is in doing energy work.
- 2:43Speaker 1: So energy work, as far as what I do, is
- 2:45Speaker 1: like reiki and even massage therapy, said, you can utilize
- 2:50Speaker 1: that information. So if you are feeling the energy of
- 2:54Speaker 1: your clients, then you can use that energy or the
- 2:58Speaker 1: messages that you're receiving in your body as guidance as
- 3:03Speaker 1: to how to work on your client. So it was
- 3:07Speaker 1: an interesting conversation, and of course I told her I'm
- 3:10Speaker 1: a reiki master and I can teach her about all
- 3:12Speaker 1: that and be reiki certified and it would help her
- 3:15Speaker 1: in in the space of being a massage therapist. But
- 3:20Speaker 1: I also noticed that, so one uh, I asked her,
- 3:25Speaker 1: you know, I asked her, what other what do you
- 3:29Speaker 1: learn in massage school when you went to school about energy?
- 3:35Speaker 1: And she's like, well, they just tell us too, you know,
- 3:38Speaker 1: before we step into somebody's to touch somebody, just take
- 3:41Speaker 1: a deep breath and then put our hands on them
- 3:45Speaker 1: and just take a breath and then start the massage.
- 3:51Speaker 1: And it's like, so you really you don't learn about
- 3:55Speaker 1: energy massage school and she said no, so I know
- 3:59Speaker 1: you have your massage therapist. So speaking to people who
- 4:05Speaker 1: do energy work and or massage from your perspective and
- 4:10Speaker 1: what you've learned, what could you share as far as
- 4:13Speaker 1: that goes, you know.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Just like as far as being grounded, being grounded before
- 4:19Speaker 2: you put your hands onto someone else, honestly, And it's
- 4:23Speaker 2: just kind of like a for me going through massage school,
- 4:26Speaker 2: I have changed so much and it's been I don't know,
- 4:29Speaker 2: twelve fifteen years, I don't even know how many years now,
- 4:33Speaker 2: but I felt the same way when you talked about her.
- 4:35Speaker 2: That's how it felt like for me in the beginning too.
- 4:37Speaker 2: And when I was going through massage school, we did
- 4:40Speaker 2: do a lot of modalities that could be construed as
- 4:43Speaker 2: more energy stuff because I feel like cranial sacral reflexology,
- 4:47Speaker 2: a lot of that kind of goes that direction. But
- 4:49Speaker 2: did we sit and really talk about the energy?
- 4:52Speaker 1: No?
- 4:53Speaker 2: And then how we didn't sit and talk about how
- 4:56Speaker 2: empathic we can be and we can go in and
- 4:58Speaker 2: pick up all that stuff like you were just saying,
- 5:00Speaker 2: we don't have to absorb it. But when you so,
- 5:03Speaker 2: it's like a learning journey for her to go on
- 5:05Speaker 2: to kind of figure out what works best for her.
- 5:08Speaker 2: But for a lot of stuff, it is taking that breath.
- 5:10Speaker 2: It is making sure that you're grounded it from the
- 5:13Speaker 2: perspective I'm att right now, it's not even clearing your
- 5:18Speaker 2: energy when that person leaves. I've had different ways of
- 5:20Speaker 2: clear and energy. I've had one instructor tell me to
- 5:24Speaker 2: you go into their bathroom or into a sink or whatever,
- 5:27Speaker 2: and you bring the water all the way up your hands,
- 5:28Speaker 2: and you're washing it all the way down your hands.
- 5:30Speaker 2: You're not keeping it. I had another one teach us.
- 5:33Speaker 2: It was called the Corona break, where you've kind of
- 5:35Speaker 2: cut the energy, And for me, it's like I always
- 5:37Speaker 2: leave a massage now, I always leave a massage, and
- 5:41Speaker 2: like your energy stays with you and my energy stays
- 5:43Speaker 2: with me. Period. So then because I was bringing that home,
- 5:48Speaker 2: I was bringing that energy home to everybody else. And
- 5:50Speaker 2: so she's talking about feeling, you know, worried about bringing
- 5:53Speaker 2: her negative energy. Well, we can look at that as
- 5:56Speaker 2: far as an alignment goes as well, it's like, why
- 5:59Speaker 2: are these certain people coming into your experience right now?
- 6:01Speaker 2: Because it's for us to learn and grow while we're
- 6:03Speaker 2: having hands on that person. And it's also learning to
- 6:06Speaker 2: not take on all that other stuff because I've done
- 6:10Speaker 2: it to the point where I could not even do
- 6:11Speaker 2: in the massage. I could look at someone from across
- 6:13Speaker 2: the gas station, someone has a dry look on their face,
- 6:16Speaker 2: and then I got felt horrible sick after that. My
- 6:18Speaker 2: stomach hurts so bad that I just went home and
- 6:21Speaker 2: that was it. And so I know that I was
- 6:23Speaker 2: picking up on other people's stuff, but recognizing and we
- 6:25Speaker 2: don't have to do that. Our early training was to
- 6:29Speaker 2: tune into all the environment around us so we can
- 6:31Speaker 2: keep ourselves safe. Right, And then you kind of pull back,
- 6:36Speaker 2: You just kind of learned the quote it was easier
- 6:39Speaker 2: for me to be in a quiet space or away
- 6:42Speaker 2: from everybody else, or to be drinking to be able
- 6:44Speaker 2: to handle everybody else. So I wasn't taken on everything.
- 6:48Speaker 2: So it's really just taking the time to be grounded
- 6:50Speaker 2: that she's going to have to find and anyone in
- 6:53Speaker 2: that kind of space. It's like really looking into what
- 6:56Speaker 2: does it mean energetically to pick up on something like that,
- 6:58Speaker 2: go exploring, like make it be fun, and then also
- 7:03Speaker 2: be aware of the words her words immediately to you
- 7:06Speaker 2: where she was afraid fear, and that she's gonna give negativity,
- 7:10Speaker 2: that she's already claiming this negative energy instead of claiming
- 7:13Speaker 2: it or changing it or saying, hey, I'm in the
- 7:15Speaker 2: middle of it. Transitioning from positive to a negative or
- 7:18Speaker 2: negative to a positive. There's just so many different ways.
- 7:22Speaker 2: So it's like it's just there's so much different things
- 7:24Speaker 2: in that moment with this person. Yeah, and the confidence
- 7:30Speaker 2: level too, and that's time. That just takes time For me.
- 7:35Speaker 2: That just took time. That took time because I was
- 7:37Speaker 2: so worried that I was gonna I was so much
- 7:39Speaker 2: in a fear that I was gonna mess it up.
- 7:42Speaker 2: I'm doing a massage for God's sakes, but I felt
- 7:44Speaker 2: like I wasn't. I was gonna mess it up. I
- 7:45Speaker 2: would put too much time into each person. And I
- 7:48Speaker 2: say too much because a lot of times my appointments
- 7:52Speaker 2: were running over into the next appointment, even though I
- 7:54Speaker 2: would give a half an hour space in between clients
- 7:57Speaker 2: or even fifteen minutes, and that didn't seem to be
- 8:00Speaker 2: long enough because I would feel if the person wasn't
- 8:03Speaker 2: feeling one hundred percent before they left me, I didn't
- 8:05Speaker 2: feel good with them leaving, and then I sit and
- 8:07Speaker 2: worry about it the whole time, just all the stuff
- 8:10Speaker 2: that was a waste. It was it was being in
- 8:12Speaker 2: that whole fear. When you break it down and look
- 8:14Speaker 2: at it from you know, further away, it was just
- 8:16Speaker 2: basically a fear I was going to do something wrong,
- 8:19Speaker 2: somebody was going to judge me I didn't do it
- 8:21Speaker 2: good enough. On the bottom line is there's a million
- 8:24Speaker 2: freaking therapists out there, and someone's going to align with
- 8:27Speaker 2: you and someone's not. And that's just the bottom line.
- 8:31Speaker 2: That's just going out and taking those tools and I
- 8:34Speaker 2: like to I just like to explore anymore with it.
- 8:37Speaker 2: It's easy, but we lead into all that stuff and
- 8:39Speaker 2: it's like I've had experiences recently they're letting me know
- 8:43Speaker 2: that that door is probably more to closing just because
- 8:49Speaker 2: I read the messages and stuff like that. But that's
- 8:51Speaker 2: kind of on a we'll go off on that if
- 8:54Speaker 2: it arises.
- 8:58Speaker 1: So and of course, like you said, with confidence that
- 9:01Speaker 1: is just comes with practice. I know when I first
- 9:05Speaker 1: started doing energy work, before I was certified in reiki,
- 9:09Speaker 1: that I was scared just do an energy work and
- 9:14Speaker 1: it was I wasn't manipulating muscles or anything. My hands
- 9:21Speaker 1: literally are just above the person or on the person.
- 9:25Speaker 1: But again that energy exchange. What if I say something
- 9:29Speaker 1: that's not correct? What if they take action on something
- 9:35Speaker 1: I said and it turns out that it was wrong.
- 9:40Speaker 1: So there was it was a whole confidence level in
- 9:42Speaker 1: me for that as well. And I was doing energy
- 9:45Speaker 1: work and again over time, so in the beginnings, I
- 9:51Speaker 1: would I just decided I would ask what they experienced,
- 9:56Speaker 1: and through what they would say to me, then would
- 10:01Speaker 1: confirm validate what I was either thinking or feeling in
- 10:06Speaker 1: my body. And so once I started realizing, yeah, this
- 10:10Speaker 1: is this is like real stuff and the things that
- 10:14Speaker 1: I'm feeling in my body is exactly what they're experiencing.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Then I got to where I would say ask them
- 10:22Speaker 1: the questions, are you feeling this pain in your back?
- 10:25Speaker 1: Or are you feeling this discomfort in your knee? Or
- 10:28Speaker 1: and then they would an answer yes or no, and
- 10:32Speaker 1: I would say ninety eight percent of the time the
- 10:34Speaker 1: answer was yes. So then that felt confidence in what
- 10:37Speaker 1: I was doing. And so then I started utilizing Louise
- 10:42Speaker 1: Hayes teachings of how the whatever the physical body sensations,
- 10:48Speaker 1: the discomfort is attached to some emotional experience, and so
- 10:53Speaker 1: I would start asking, you know those questions, have you
- 10:57Speaker 1: experienced you know whatever was connected to that? So the
- 11:02Speaker 1: back is connected to support. Are you struggling and having
- 11:06Speaker 1: feeling like you have support or need support and you're
- 11:09Speaker 1: not get like starting to be inquisitive like a like
- 11:13Speaker 1: a detective, and they would start answering yes to those
- 11:18Speaker 1: questions majority of the time. And so it just keep
- 11:22Speaker 1: building that confidence. And similar to I would imagine as
- 11:26Speaker 1: a massage therapist that just practicing on tuning into the
- 11:32Speaker 1: body more to understand they might have a knee pain,
- 11:36Speaker 1: but it could be coming from their back. I mean,
- 11:39Speaker 1: these are things. Even chiropractors have to. Even a foot
- 11:44Speaker 1: issue could be something in the hip. So opening up
- 11:49Speaker 1: that intuitive the piece of intuition of listening to the
- 11:53Speaker 1: guidance that the body is giving the massage therapist or
- 11:58Speaker 1: the energy worker.
- 12:00Speaker 2: It's funny you say some of that stuff. And sometimes
- 12:02Speaker 2: I'll be doing a massage on somebody and I might
- 12:05Speaker 2: be going down the spine and I might have my
- 12:08Speaker 2: middle finger like not touching the body. I'm just doing whatever,
- 12:11Speaker 2: and then my body will automatically touch a certain spot
- 12:15Speaker 2: and I know that that's letting me know there's something
- 12:18Speaker 2: going on there. But it's not something that I had
- 12:21Speaker 2: always known, and it wasn't something that I paid attention
- 12:23Speaker 2: to until you start really listening. Like even for me,
- 12:27Speaker 2: I like working on people that have issues or whatever
- 12:30Speaker 2: because I can always go right to the space and
- 12:33Speaker 2: I can feel the muscle to It's one you're a therapist.
- 12:38Speaker 2: It's having faith in knowing what you're feeling too, because
- 12:41Speaker 2: right fit mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, all of it. But
- 12:47Speaker 2: I'll feel it and then it's like I'll work on
- 12:49Speaker 2: that area and sometimes and I think it probably happens
- 12:51Speaker 2: to everybody, but something will pop up in the mind
- 12:54Speaker 2: and they'll let you know, and that's when you can
- 12:56Speaker 2: ask a question instead of saying, hey, I'm feeling this,
- 13:00Speaker 2: but I do I'll do that sometimes too. Gosh, I
- 13:02Speaker 2: just walked in. You just walked in, and I'm filling
- 13:04Speaker 2: this down here? Are you having any stuff going on
- 13:06Speaker 2: down here? So it's really just it keeps you in
- 13:11Speaker 2: the now because you're more connected, You're being more aware
- 13:13Speaker 2: of everything that's going on. And I also recognizing we're
- 13:17Speaker 2: like a metronome and so if we're going to vibrate
- 13:20Speaker 2: higher before she goes in there. Even like when I
- 13:22Speaker 2: learned reiki, it was really making sure that you were
- 13:26Speaker 2: nice and grounded and you were centered, and then you
- 13:28Speaker 2: had intention, whatever your intention was. And I would even
- 13:31Speaker 2: have back in the day, I would have clients even
- 13:34Speaker 2: set their intention. Hey, putting my hands on you, set
- 13:36Speaker 2: your intention right now? What do you want to receive
- 13:38Speaker 2: from this? Because it takes the power out of our hands,
- 13:42Speaker 2: so to speak, and it helps to guide both people honestly,
- 13:46Speaker 2: but it puts power back into the person's hands as
- 13:48Speaker 2: well instead of us being so responsible for it. And
- 13:52Speaker 2: then she can spend more time on noticing the things
- 13:55Speaker 2: is is she keep being drawn to her hip or
- 13:59Speaker 2: when she's talking to one that's standing across from her
- 14:01Speaker 2: and she's rubbing her own Hipperton. Just there's so many
- 14:04Speaker 2: details that you can watch for. There's so much, but
- 14:07Speaker 2: it's just an awareness thing and it's it's just like
- 14:11Speaker 2: a great training ground. Really, she's going to open up
- 14:14Speaker 2: so much, it's gonna be awesome. Yeah, she does have.
- 14:16Speaker 1: An amazing energy about her, soothing energy about her. And
- 14:23Speaker 1: the other thing I would add to that is that
- 14:26Speaker 1: if you're if you're doing energy work or massage therapy,
- 14:31Speaker 1: that if you are so busy in your head worried
- 14:35Speaker 1: about your energy to their energy or am I doing
- 14:39Speaker 1: a good enough job or just questioning yourself or I
- 14:43Speaker 1: hope I'm I hope they they're relaxed, Like your busyness
- 14:48Speaker 1: in your head keeps you from receiving the information that's
- 14:52Speaker 1: actually going to help you be a really good energy
- 14:54Speaker 1: worker or massage therapist, and just relax into the process
- 15:03Speaker 1: and you breathe through it.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you start recognizing, Oh, I feel like
- 15:09Speaker 2: I'm all up in my head. Wait, this isn't me.
- 15:12Speaker 2: I wasn't like that a minute ago. So it's like
- 15:14Speaker 2: your helper. She's learning how to fine tune or be
- 15:17Speaker 2: an awareness of what her energy is so that when
- 15:19Speaker 2: someone else comes in, you automatically recognize what's not yours,
- 15:24Speaker 2: so then you can help the other person.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, and that was one of the things in
- 15:33Speaker 1: the beginning as well. It's one of the things I
- 15:35Speaker 1: started doing for myself, was.
- 15:38Speaker 2: Just breathe with them.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just focus on your breath. I had to
- 15:43Speaker 1: tell myself just focus on your breath and breathe and focus.
- 15:49Speaker 1: So in reiki we use reyki symbols, so focus on
- 15:51Speaker 1: your breath and focus on the symbol and then I would,
- 15:55Speaker 1: you know, maybe breathe and just repeat the word for
- 15:59Speaker 1: the symbol, or just repeat reiki or you know, and
- 16:06Speaker 1: that helped me be even more present. You know, maybe
- 16:11Speaker 1: it's breathe and just focus on the pressure, or breathe
- 16:15Speaker 1: and focus on the the texture of the skin, or
- 16:18Speaker 1: you know, breathe and just focus on how your hands
- 16:22Speaker 1: feel as it's as it's massaging. But giving yourself a
- 16:29Speaker 1: focal point so that your head is not willy nilly
- 16:33Speaker 1: thinking about all the things that you think you're doing
- 16:35Speaker 1: wrong or what you need to do when you get
- 16:38Speaker 1: done with that massage, because we do that too.
- 16:42Speaker 2: And it's probably not even in that space the whole time,
- 16:45Speaker 2: so it's recognized giving giving more energy to Hey, I
- 16:48Speaker 2: noticed that that kind of all shut off when I
- 16:50Speaker 2: was working on this person because you're in the now.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Right now, you're in that breath and it's an awesome
- 16:55Speaker 2: thing because if the breath is so huge, right, if
- 16:57Speaker 2: we were in a group, we would probably have a
- 17:00Speaker 2: group of people taking a deep breath at the same
- 17:02Speaker 2: time and releasing it at the same time because we
- 17:04Speaker 2: all kind of connect with each other that way. And
- 17:07Speaker 2: so she could always start out every single sauce that way,
- 17:10Speaker 2: just have the person breathing with her, and then then
- 17:13Speaker 2: you're now into an alignment and it's more into a
- 17:16Speaker 2: piece for both people. It's taking both people into that
- 17:19Speaker 2: alignment instead of that, you know, feeling the resistance or
- 17:22Speaker 2: feeling cut off from our connection our alignment. Yeah, the source.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Very cool. Well, and every massage syrapis is different I've had,
- 17:34Speaker 1: and even chiropractors are different. I've had both both massage
- 17:39Speaker 1: syrapis and chiropractors who do the exact same thing every
- 17:44Speaker 1: single time. And I'm just after a few times thinking,
- 17:51Speaker 1: especially for a chip, I'm like, I have other bones
- 17:53Speaker 1: in my body, or why are we just doing the
- 17:55Speaker 1: same routine crack, Yeah, And then I thought about that
- 18:00Speaker 1: for a massage therapist too. This is years ago. It's like,
- 18:04Speaker 1: why would a massage therapist have the same routine massage?
- 18:09Speaker 1: The only thing I came up with correct me if
- 18:11Speaker 1: I'm wrong. The only thing I came up with was timing.
- 18:14Speaker 1: When they have the same routine, they know how long
- 18:16Speaker 1: it takes them, and then they'll be able to get
- 18:19Speaker 1: done in the time frame that they've allotted.
- 18:23Speaker 2: And some people like that structure. There's a Russian massage
- 18:26Speaker 2: that it's very time like you spend a certain amount
- 18:28Speaker 2: of minutes on each limb or each part of the body,
- 18:31Speaker 2: and it's very structured like that, which is not me
- 18:33Speaker 2: because I'm more of a I like to go with
- 18:35Speaker 2: the flow of it, and because the body tells you
- 18:38Speaker 2: what it needs and you can listen to what the
- 18:40Speaker 2: client says. You had mentioned before about these we call
- 18:44Speaker 2: them phantom pains around here. My heel has been killing
- 18:47Speaker 2: me for my right heel right for a while, and
- 18:51Speaker 2: it comes and goes. It's my low back. It was
- 18:54Speaker 2: my low back, So it's like and then it's like
- 18:57Speaker 2: we look at the Louise Hayes or we look at
- 18:59Speaker 2: our Sagal book or any of the other things and
- 19:02Speaker 2: find that it's you know, it's not being supported, not
- 19:05Speaker 2: feeling supported, and it's like for me, it was for
- 19:08Speaker 2: me not supporting myself. So as recognizing all these things,
- 19:11Speaker 2: it's just an awesome thing. And I've also realized it's not.
- 19:16Speaker 2: I am not the god over each person. Each person
- 19:20Speaker 2: has their own internal guidance in their own experiences, and
- 19:25Speaker 2: they can come into my space and I can help them,
- 19:28Speaker 2: but I can only help them to the point that
- 19:29Speaker 2: they allow that help to come into So that goes
- 19:32Speaker 2: back with the confidence saying that doesn't have anything to
- 19:34Speaker 2: do with me. I'll certainly try to help someone feel better,
- 19:37Speaker 2: but I also know if they're not feeling better by
- 19:40Speaker 2: the time I'm done, I'm also paying attention to the
- 19:43Speaker 2: words they're using. I'm paying attention to the energy space
- 19:46Speaker 2: they're in right now, because then that goes back to
- 19:49Speaker 2: the same thing that might be me, like, hey, maybe
- 19:53Speaker 2: you should go get a notebook and a piece of
- 19:55Speaker 2: paper and start writing down, like sit and feel that
- 19:57Speaker 2: pain and then start writing down whatever comes into your mind.
- 20:00Speaker 2: Like there's so many there's other ways of us handing,
- 20:03Speaker 2: handing out more tools. We've talked about before, getting more
- 20:07Speaker 2: toys for the toy box, more tools for the tool built. Right,
- 20:09Speaker 2: it's all, it's all the same thing. It's just gathering
- 20:12Speaker 2: more information for us, and then it helps to share
- 20:16Speaker 2: it with others as soon as it popped in. And
- 20:18Speaker 2: that's having trust and confidence and the information that's coming
- 20:21Speaker 2: to you and just sharing it. And if it's wrong,
- 20:24Speaker 2: or or if you said something that they don't seem
- 20:26Speaker 2: to align with because maybe your words didn't match with
- 20:29Speaker 2: what their definitions align with, it's okay, it's okay. I
- 20:35Speaker 2: heard recently we talked about confidence and stuff. Suzanne Geeseman
- 20:38Speaker 2: said that she had done this reading on this person
- 20:41Speaker 2: and the whole time it was all yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 20:43Speaker 2: and she's because she does readings, she's very connected and
- 20:49Speaker 2: she gets done and the guy says, all that was
- 20:51Speaker 2: all that was wrong because I said, I said yes,
- 20:54Speaker 2: just to basically checking you out. And she said it
- 20:57Speaker 2: was really hard for her to say that, to tell
- 21:00Speaker 2: us this stuff. It was really hard for her to
- 21:02Speaker 2: deal with that, because you know, she kept getting all
- 21:04Speaker 2: these yeses, but it stopped her to make her pay attention,
- 21:07Speaker 2: to start asking a little bit more questions and recognize
- 21:10Speaker 2: how we're tuned in or if we're not tuned in not.
- 21:13Speaker 2: So it's like it's it's all of us have these
- 21:15Speaker 2: experiences and they're going to make us really question things,
- 21:18Speaker 2: probably to the core. But I think that's awesome because
- 21:22Speaker 2: we're also dealing with other people's energies.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Well, and it teaches you to to listen and notice
- 21:30Speaker 1: the different energies, notice what's yours and what's not yours.
- 21:35Speaker 1: And that's why I mentioned that take your own inventory mentally, physically, spiritually,
- 21:41Speaker 1: and emotionally, so that if you feel like you know,
- 21:47Speaker 1: you step into your client's energy and then all of
- 21:50Speaker 1: a sudden, you feel something in your body and you're
- 21:52Speaker 1: just like, hold on, I was fine just a second ago,
- 21:56Speaker 1: until I start touching them and then for the validation
- 22:01Speaker 1: is oh, are you feeling discomfort in your elbow or whatever?
- 22:06Speaker 1: And they say yes immediately. Well, after I got used
- 22:13Speaker 1: to to, or got more confident in knowing that I
- 22:17Speaker 1: was feeling their physical sensations, I would use it as
- 22:21Speaker 1: a tool to guide me into where to work on
- 22:24Speaker 1: the body and immediately tell my guides and angels this
- 22:29Speaker 1: is not mine and you can take it now because
- 22:32Speaker 1: I don't want it. I don't want to keep it.
- 22:34Speaker 1: It's just like you were saying earlier, you can keep
- 22:36Speaker 1: your energy and I'm taking my energy with me. So yes,
- 22:41Speaker 1: you can lean on your spiritual guidance. So again, God,
- 22:47Speaker 1: divine source, angels, guides, disease, loved ones, whoever that is
- 22:52Speaker 1: for you, and let them know, or even your internal spirit,
- 22:59Speaker 1: the sensation is not mine. Please release it now. And
- 23:03Speaker 1: it's a to me, it's an internal request. I don't
- 23:06Speaker 1: need to say it out loud because my clients don't
- 23:09Speaker 1: need excuse me, don't need to know I'm having these
- 23:12Speaker 1: conversations and distract them because now that's probably going to
- 23:16Speaker 1: open up some other conversation while you're trying to do
- 23:19Speaker 1: energy work. So so yeah, just to say this is
- 23:24Speaker 1: a mind so take it out of my body please.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Yeah. And I noticed a lot of times when you
- 23:31Speaker 2: just say the things out loud to the other person
- 23:33Speaker 2: about whatever you're noticing, it usually just it just goes away.
- 23:38Speaker 1: For me.
- 23:38Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I've noticed, is that the pain
- 23:40Speaker 2: and stuff goes away. And if I don't say anything,
- 23:43Speaker 2: that's like it kind of lingers with me a little
- 23:45Speaker 2: bit longer then I could. I could definitely say that,
- 23:47Speaker 2: but yeah, I've recognized that that's actually actually happened a
- 23:50Speaker 2: few times.
- 23:52Speaker 1: And you can ask for the guidance to maneuver around
- 23:57Speaker 1: that area too, Like you don't have to have all
- 24:01Speaker 1: the solutions. You can ask for Okay, what would be
- 24:04Speaker 1: the best way to massage this area or what would
- 24:06Speaker 1: be maybe what's an affirmation I could internally repeat as
- 24:12Speaker 1: I'm sending energy to that space. Yeah, so we can
- 24:17Speaker 1: ask our divine guidance as to how to move through
- 24:22Speaker 1: this session or experience sensation.
- 24:31Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll even say, either to my higher self or
- 24:34Speaker 2: to the Council of Light, Okay, we're going in. I
- 24:37Speaker 2: don't know what this person needs or you know what's
- 24:39Speaker 2: the best right, what's what's for the greatest good for
- 24:43Speaker 2: this person, for both I mean for everybody involved. So
- 24:46Speaker 2: and then just letting it be whatever it is, and
- 24:49Speaker 2: then not questioning it because it's out of my hands,
- 24:51Speaker 2: right because I'm not claiming I'm not claiming that I'm
- 24:53Speaker 2: the only one doing the massage. I've got I've got
- 24:56Speaker 2: help so if the help didn't do the job, rights, Hey.
- 25:01Speaker 1: I've done similar, help me guide help guide me through
- 25:04Speaker 1: this energy session.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Es.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to go back to what you
- 25:11Speaker 1: were saying about their words, because as we've talked to
- 25:18Speaker 1: you about many, many, many of times that even though
- 25:21Speaker 1: people are are wanting the relief from the discomforts and
- 25:26Speaker 1: they're trying all you know, modalities that they can think of,
- 25:31Speaker 1: that when you listen to what they are saying, what
- 25:34Speaker 1: their actual words are and the energy behind those words,
- 25:39Speaker 1: you will know if they are being authentic about their healing,
- 25:47Speaker 1: because what their words and their energy is saying are
- 25:52Speaker 1: two different things a lot of times, and if they're,
- 25:55Speaker 1: if they're continuously just spewing out saying things in a
- 26:00Speaker 1: negative way, then you know they're not interested in doing
- 26:08Speaker 1: the work.
- 26:09Speaker 2: And it's not personal. It's not personal where they're.
- 26:12Speaker 1: At, and it's much easier to blame somebody else for
- 26:16Speaker 1: their discomfort than it is for them to take responsibility
- 26:19Speaker 1: for their healing. So don't yeah, don't take it personal.
- 26:23Speaker 1: It's just where they are with themselves at the moment.
- 26:26Speaker 1: You can plant seeds for positive outcomes or a different path.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Plant seeds it doesn't mean they're going to do it,
- 26:39Speaker 1: doesn't mean they want to do it. And sometimes they
- 26:43Speaker 1: do and they'll come back and they're they're wanting more information.
- 26:47Speaker 1: So it's dependent upon each client.
- 26:52Speaker 2: It really is. And it is listening. It's listening on
- 26:55Speaker 2: all levels, it really is. I've had people, you know,
- 26:59Speaker 2: come in for one thing and then they say, oh, well, yeah,
- 27:01Speaker 2: I've got that too, Oh we can work on that.
- 27:03Speaker 2: Oh no, that that's been like that forever, it's gonna
- 27:06Speaker 2: it'll so they claim that they bring it there, it's there,
- 27:11Speaker 2: it's their story, and it's like, it's not for me
- 27:12Speaker 2: to rewrite their story. It's for me to write my story.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Right, And some people just want to stay in their suffering.
- 27:19Speaker 1: They want the relief in the moment, they want the
- 27:21Speaker 1: magic pill in the moment, hoping that it's going to
- 27:24Speaker 1: cure all, but they really want to stay in their suffering.
- 27:28Speaker 2: So yeah, and then when that happens, also asking yourself, why,
- 27:32Speaker 2: how how come this person's in my space right now?
- 27:35Speaker 2: What am I to learn from this? What is my understanding?
- 27:38Speaker 2: Or maybe it's just a Some people like to call
- 27:41Speaker 2: them chess to see where you're at right now with
- 27:43Speaker 2: this stuff?
- 27:44Speaker 1: So yeah, ever experiences has got some lesson in it.
- 27:49Speaker 1: We choose to choose to embrace that. I don't always
- 27:54Speaker 1: embrace it either. I'm just like, no, I just can't.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's guess what. That's okay, Yeah, because it'll
- 28:03Speaker 2: come back around.
- 28:04Speaker 1: It's okay, it'll come back around.
- 28:06Speaker 2: It's right, it's right.
- 28:07Speaker 1: I'm not missing out anything.
- 28:09Speaker 2: No, no, And that's the truth too, also knowing that
- 28:13Speaker 2: we're never missing out on anything that's meant for us. Ever,
- 28:16Speaker 2: it's not possible, it's not.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Yeah. And so even this massage therapist, everything she's experiencing
- 28:24Speaker 1: right now is a benefit for her growth and to
- 28:29Speaker 1: become even even a more advanced therapist, yes, yes, better therapists,
- 28:39Speaker 1: more in tune therapist. Like everything she's experiencing now is
- 28:43Speaker 1: she's asking the questions or has these fears and people
- 28:45Speaker 1: are showing up to help guide her. Then she again
- 28:49Speaker 1: I planted seeds. What she does with it her on her.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I did what I could do in that moment, and
- 28:57Speaker 1: so what she does with the information from that point
- 28:59Speaker 1: forward is up to her. And then if I come
- 29:01Speaker 1: back and have the same conversation, I will know she
- 29:08Speaker 1: she didn't choose to do anything different, and again that's
- 29:11Speaker 1: on her, that's her journey, that's not on me. So
- 29:14Speaker 1: maybe that conversation was just a reminder for me about
- 29:17Speaker 1: my energy and maintaining my energy, which was right at
- 29:22Speaker 1: the time when I was sharing in the last video
- 29:26Speaker 1: of taking that breath after being on Blast for three
- 29:29Speaker 1: months and I wasn't maintaining my energy. Maybe that conversation
- 29:34Speaker 1: was just for me as a reminder for myself, and
- 29:36Speaker 1: I needed to say it out loud. So there is
- 29:40Speaker 1: something in every conversation for both parties to learn from.
- 29:47Speaker 2: One hundred percent agree.
- 29:49Speaker 1: So all right, friends, take what resonates and implement what
- 29:55Speaker 1: you can and do and be better within yourself.
- 29:58Speaker 2: So you just keep showing up to do and be.
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- 30:05Speaker 1: and sometimes they need the guidance too, so be resourceful.
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- 30:27Speaker 1: access us. AMYMBEV community. Any other final words before we sign.
- 30:32Speaker 2: Off, when you're feeling things, hearing things sometimes and it
- 30:37Speaker 2: just feels kind of off, ask is this mine? And
- 30:41Speaker 2: a lot of times when you just ask that question,
- 30:43Speaker 2: it just goes away or you might even see where
- 30:45Speaker 2: it's associated with it. Then it gives you an opportunity
- 30:47Speaker 2: to say a blessing or whatever to that person.
- 30:51Speaker 1: Prayer is powerful.
- 30:53Speaker 2: It is powerful.
- 30:55Speaker 1: H right, friends, thanks for hanging out with us, teach
- 30:57Speaker 1: time with Amien Bev. We'll see you next time.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Bye,