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397. Astros Wake Up & Snakes Alive · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes it.
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All starts. Right now, welcome back to the
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Three O Take presented by C Keek.
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This is episode 397 and I'll be your host, Kyle Corn.
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And I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Nate. Good morning everyone.
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Happy. Happy Saturday.
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This has got to be. Got to be our first Saturday
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episode. I was thinking first, maybe
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second. Ever.
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Yeah. Yeah, I like it.
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Having coffee. Yeah.
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Cup of cup of Morning Joe over there.
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Well, it's almost lunchtime here, but Morning Joe for you.
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It's pretty neat. Hey, can we can we can we clap
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it up? Let's clap it up.
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Let's clap it up. We got some competitive
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baseball. For once, I almost forgot what
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it was like to watch a competitive baseball game.
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I forgot what it was like to have my my blood pressure
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affected by whatever it was that I was watching.
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We hadn't. We hadn't seen that up until
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about two days ago. I'm here for it.
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Before we get into it, I need I I have.
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I have a cell. Oh, OK.
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I'm excited about these games, don't get me wrong.
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But I I do have a cell. Here's my cell.
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I don't. Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
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I'm selling the MLB rulebook. OK, we have seen, we have seen,
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we've been told on a on A tag play, the laces of a glove are
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not considered part of the glove in this post season.
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We have seen the laces of a glove qualify as a catcher's
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interference, and now we're seeing batting gloves in a back
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pocket be considered part of a base runner.
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Where do we draw the line? Help me with this math.
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Yeah, this math ain't math. And I honestly can't tell you
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because I probably could have held my own in this conversation
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about this rule pre oven MIT introduction.
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But once they introduced that, I I just, I don't know like what's
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considered the core of the rule anymore and what's considered
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like. It's very great accessory.
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I don't understand it. It's very Gray, that Bang, Bang
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play. Where Simeon got doubled off at
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first base. I don't get it.
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I don't get it. How do the batting gloves in a
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back pocket qualify? There's so much Gray area.
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I don't. I don't see how it's fair.
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It's a little bit of like a it was a little bit of like a it's
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a pivotal moment for that to happen.
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So and then I mean the catcher's interference we had a couple
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weeks ago definitely a pivotal moment.
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I just it and I'm not blaming the umpires.
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I'm blaming the rule book. I'm blaming that like we need to
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make adjustments when these rules were written.
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I don't even think anyone was using batting gloves, so there's
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nothing to stick out of the back pocket.
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I think the umpires lately have just been going with what?
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What? Helps the vibes.
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Yeah, like, what do we what do we think will really get the
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people going right now? Yeah, do we want to count the
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batting gloves right now or do we not want to count the betting
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gloves? We want this double provocative.
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Yeah. Gets people going.
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I don't know. That's a good sell though.
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I appreciate it. I I hadn't really considered
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that given everything else that had taken place.
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But I think if you if you look at it though, you think you're
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right. Series of events don't add up to
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me. Math ain't mathen what?
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What else isn't? Mathen is the fact that no home
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team has won a game in this ALCS and it's very, very 2019 World
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Series esque, very circa 2019. Yeah.
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Which is why I'm not worried for the Rangers like all these.
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Like, I I see Rangers fans saying while the series is over
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and Phillies fans alike, just to kind of bring them into the
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conversation. I have Philly fans tweeting at
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me being like series is over. I got no faith.
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What are we talking about? Like, sure, Yeah.
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If you're the Rangers looking at them, you would have liked to
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have at least won a game at home.
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But Houston is the the the Stroh's are cheeks at home.
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So you at least that have you. You at least have that working
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for you. I mean, I'm not going to wish
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injury on somebody, but if you're the Rangers, you kind of
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hope that Altuve stubs his toe getting off the plane.
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I don't. I don't know how to manage that.
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I I mean, hate the guy all you want, but this is it's getting
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out of control. I'm so tired of it.
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I've yet to figure out how a guy of his stature does what he
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does. He gets grounded so well as a
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hitter. He's got such a good base.
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And that's it, man. Like, that's what the young
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hitters If you ever are undersized and you got somebody
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to watch and and you want to add pop, oh, it all starts with the
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base. He's not doing anything else
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that's super special. He just got a really strong
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base. Yes, he dives really hard, but
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man can he get grounded. It's nuts.
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It's it's, I'm, I'm over it. I'm kind of, I'm kind of tired
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of it. But you got to respect it, dude.
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You got to respect it. You guys really good at
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baseball, and he does it in crazy moments.
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I saw Pedro, which I'm like Pedro's been been known to say,
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some erratic things at times, but I saw he said that he thinks
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Altuve will go down as the best second baseman of all time.
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I'll be honest, I haven't even really checked the numbers, but
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even with as good as he's been, that seems a little much.
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No? Or I mean is that within reach?
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Definitely recency bias in that comment.
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I think with the postseason opportunities, it's inflated.
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I would. I would assume if we looked at
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numbers we wouldn't be overly impressed.
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As far as, like, the best ever? Sure.
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Probably a Hall of Famer. But yeah, the the, the
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postseason numbers really kind of bolster that up.
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No, I mean I'll give him the Hall of Famer.
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I don't, I don't, like I said, haven't even checked the
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numbers. But I I feel like I can safely
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say that he's a Hall of Famer. But it's the greatest of all
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time. Conversation is what gives me a
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little bit of pause. But.
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The tough thing is that, like I, for so long in our game, like
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the second baseman, was just a defensive specialist.
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You know what I mean? He was like the right fielder of
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the infield, just a guy that. Right.
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Could play baseball, but you needed you needed to stick him
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somewhere. 49.3 Career WAR little over 2000 hits.
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A little over 200 home runs. He is hitting over 300 in his
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career. Yeah, that's a Hall of Famer.
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We'll get to. We'll get to the big Altuve
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moment. Talking about a Hall of Famer
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potentially is not pitched like a Hall of Famer as of late in
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the postseason. Max Scherzer going back to game
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three, the Rangers drop game three eight to five.
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This was the beginning of the Astros three-game run in
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Arlington. We talked about last episode.
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We said this. You want to talk about pivotal
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moment? I I don't think game three was
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the game to play with house money.
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If you're the Rangers, you needed to get that third win
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under your belt before you went to Scherzer.
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That's my opinion and that's not hindsight.
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We were talking about that before he even took the took the
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mound because. Everyone knew, like we said, if
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you're the Rangers, this is your opportunity to get back in the
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series. Like you could not ask for a
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better match up in my opinion. And people might think, well,
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that sounds odd because we're talking about Max Scherzer.
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Yeah, we're talking about Max Scherzer, who has not had the
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greatest track record as of late with arm health down the
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stretch, especially coming off of the IL not too long ago.
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And we said this is the opportunity if you're the Astros
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get back into it and what do they do?
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Jump on them right away. And then from that point
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forward, the Rangers, really, I mean the they said the What was
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it? The home team hadn't held the
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lead until late what? Yesterday?
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I think game five makes sense. The game, honestly.
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The games all run. Run.
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They all blend together. Yeah, it's like 1 big game for
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me, but I get what you're saying.
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But that's just what I don't think that was the move.
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We gave, we gave so much credit to Bochi 4.
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I'm not ready to. I'm not ready to turn on him,
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but no. But this was extremely
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predictable his his last three postseason starts, he's given up
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14 runs, six home runs and his and each start, respectively 4
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and a third, four and 2/3 and four Indians pitch.
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You die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become
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the villain. He's the villain.
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It's there. OK, I want to get your take on
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this. I threw out the idea.
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I said if he goes out there and just flops, like I said, if he
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gets like, you know, gives up two or three.
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Like, not not vintage Scherzer, but he at least gives you enough
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to keep you in the game. We entertain the idea of him
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returning for another start should they advance, whatever
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the situation may be. Given what we saw in Game 3,
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should the Rangers find a way to advance to the World Series?
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Is Max Scherzer getting the ball for you?
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He has to, He has to this. The tough thing is that this
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bullpen is so freaking taxed. It was already, yeah, a fairly
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average bullpen coming in. They've over performed, they've
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done fairly well, minus yesterday, but you don't have
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enough options. I would say, I mean because now,
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now if if the Rangers do win it, it has to go seven.
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I would say that you it's got to be like an early in the series
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start. It can't be a pivotal moment.
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It can't be a pivotal game. It's got to be early enough to
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where, like you have the ability to recover from whatever he
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does. I would my I mean, if I were
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calling the shots here, I would say the opposite.
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I would say save it for late and not give him a start.
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Let him come out for like a piggyback.
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Roll I mean, I think late in the series.
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Yeah, ideally it should be. What did they do?
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They piggybacked Dane Dunning off of Heaney, right?
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Yes, because Heaney got the start in game.
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And how quick that was A quick four, wasn't it?
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Yeah, he only went 2/3. Give up three runs.
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I don't love that Dane Dunning also gave up three runs.
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But Dane Dunning ate ate some time, didn't he?
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Didn't he eat some innings two and 2/3?
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Dang, I thought that was better. Yeah, ideally, I would like to
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get a full start out of one of those guys and then slide
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Scherzer in for the piggyback off of one of those names.
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It's just tough, man. Like I The way you saw Heaney
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carve up the Orioles, you thought there was maybe some
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magic there. Yeah, no magic.
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No magic, yeah. But Scherzer is officially
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cooked. I mean it.
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I think there's got to be some serious, serious retirement
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discussions. Yeah, I I don't see him.
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If it were up to me, which it's obviously not, I don't.
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I wouldn't give him the ball for a start.
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I would. I would give him a out of the
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pen roll, piggyback roll, something like that to at least
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get Scherzer in there to eat up a few in.
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Which sounds crazy 'cause we're talking about Max Scherzer, we
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shouldn't be talking about having him eat up Indians.
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But based on what he's shown us, that's that's really all.
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At this point, that's all you can really hope for.
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You can't even rely on that. That's what you would hope for.
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He's a He's still got like, what, two years?
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Oh no, he's a free agent answer this year, right?
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Oh, no, no, no. One more year.
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One more year. Yeah, 2024, yeah.
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I wonder if the Rangers are willing to eat some of that.
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Why not? Little reunion here in Arizona
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Can't let it come full circle. You know I love those.
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I love the final goodbye tour with the original team.
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Why not Madison Bumgarner reincarnated just with the the
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angry old guy like. Just one year, kind of washed.
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Kind of washed yelling at the clouds.
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Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's nothing else.
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Nowhere else I could see it happening.
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Props to Jose Abreu having quite the series.
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A Freaking. Nuke.
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What's he got four in this series or four in the
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postseason? Four in the postseason.
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I think he's having. He's having himself quite a
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month after a rather, can we say pedestrian year or am I thinking
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of last year? Was it last year?
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That last year was not great. This year is better, but still
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not like Jose Abreu 23718 palms not.
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Not the Jose Abreu they hope to sign.
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I'll call it pedestrian. But he plays every day.
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He's a vet, he's a gamer, and he's doing well in this
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postseason, so a lot of that stuff can get corrected.
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Alvarez, Jordan Alvarez and Jose Bray, the first team mates in
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postseason history with at least 4 homers and 10 ribbies in their
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team's first eight playoff games.
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They're, I mean, along with Altuve, they're driving this
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offense right now, yeah. What was that?
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Was that Wednesday? Thursday.
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Bases loaded, Jordan takes it all the way to the track for a
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SAC fly and the Rangers are like, oh, deep breath and then
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next thing you knew that was game.
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Four, yeah. That's when they put up 10 on
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the on Rangers, yeah. Next thing you knew Jose Brayu 3
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run bomb, which if you're if you're mathing with us, that
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pretty much counts as a Grand Slam anyway.
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So them them being back-to-back and and what's great is that
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like it's forcing the Rangers to to throw to your dawn, it's
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forcing them no longer can you just work around obviously not
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situation space loaded, but in general no longer you able to
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just kind of work around your dawn because you have a pushover
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behind them. Jose Abreu is providing juice.
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I'm impressed. I'm surprised.
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I'm impressed. Yeah, he's he's one of those
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guys that going into the playoffs that it's not a guy
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that you're banking on providing you this level of production,
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but when you get it, you need it.
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You see what you see, how it how it affects the team and how it.
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And and I think I just, I don't think Kyle Tucker has done
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anything. I haven't heard his name at all.
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Yeah, not much of not much A note I I think you would have
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coming into it on paper. You would have thought that he
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would be doing what Abreu's doing, giving you that that
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jolt. Yeah, but they're making it
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work, man. Yeah, I just, I just don't know
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how you drop 3 at home. I get the whole like no home
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team is is doing well in this series but like to go up to to.
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Yeah, to do what you what you should have done given the way
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the Astros been playing at home and taking taking the 1st 2IN in
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Houston if you just take one at home.
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You're still ahead. It's.
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You remove that advantage. You've lost the advantage,
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clearly. I mean, we were talking about
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these series potentially being sweeps with the way that the
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Phillies and Rangers jumped out to those leads.
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And it wasn't just like it wasn't just a by happenstance
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scenario. Like it was very convincing
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where it's like, OK, it seems as though the the Astros have
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reached the end of their Rd. It seems like the D backs were
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well overmatched coming in into this series after the first two
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games, and here we are. Both series slipped on their.
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Heads. Now we're bawling.
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Now we're bawling. Should we talk about Mr. Adolis?
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What? What's?
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Oh yeah, Game. Game five.
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Haven't even got the game five. Look, nobody, and I mean nobody.
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Unless you're an absolute idiot, which I don't know.
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Brian a brave. I don't want to sit here and say
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he is. I don't want to say anybody is
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an idiot, especially if I don't know him.
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Brian Abreu. I have to.
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I have to imagine he's not throwing intentionally.
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Who in the right mind is putting a second guy on in?
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What the was that the 8th, 7th. It was late.
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Who's putting on a a second guy on base late in the game, in a
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postseason game? I think that's because of the
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way he responded after hitting a home run.
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That's why he got tossed. Yeah, that's why Dusty was
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losing it. Yeah, the comment that the
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comment, well, First off what do you, what did you think of the
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the home run celebration was it I mean based on what we've seen
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the last few years and like these big moments, I think it
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was just right there in the middle of all those others.
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I don't think it was any worse any.
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No. Yeah, the whole place.
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No worse Slam. I was locked in on the dugout,
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like, was not staring down any particular one.
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Like any one particular member of the other team.
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He's locked in on his guys. That's a big moment too.
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And is it like I'm just? Off of Verlander, I'm just so
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tired and even, Verlander said. After that, he's like, I had no
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problem with that. Like it's a big moment.
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He's like, I I get it, which I'm like, OK, I got to tip my cap to
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that. Like he at least understands the
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magnitude of the situation, but like.
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It's been beef all year, though. We got to we got to remember
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that it it just it's been built up.
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The Tollies had done this before in the regular season and
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there's been responses in the regular season, I guess.
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The the tough moment, the Obviously.
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We all know the result of of the Altuve home run and and things
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like that, which we'll get to in a SEC.
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But I I think the the Martin Maldonado quote, but he's he's
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100% right. Like if you're a doll, he's
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right there and you wear that, you got it.
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You just got to be like OK, like whatever.
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That's the only response they get, if it is on purpose, if
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that is planned. That's the only response they
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can have. You hit a three run bomb, right?
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Yeah. And you get nailed if you let
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that. If you shrug that off, you got
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you got two guys on now and the Astros, if that is planned.
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The Astros, like you're you're doing that to get a response.
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You're doing that to send a message if it is planned.
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Oh boy, phone's going nuts. You're doing that to try and get
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juiced up in some way. So it's like, why give that to
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them? Why provide that again if
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Planned Nate, Do the Houston Astros win the game if Fidelis
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Garcia doesn't respond? I'd love, I'd love to say no.
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I'd love to say no. We'll never know.
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But there's something about I love the catcher beef, by the
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way. I love when they when the
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catcher is involved in this stuff more than the pitcher.
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Yeah, he was. He was getting close to Adolis,
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was getting close to getting his hands on him.
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He was like tossing the UMP around a little bit.
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I'm like my guy, Let's cool it. All right?
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Do you. We're gonna need you for the
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rest of the series. That man is built like a
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freaking running back dude. Adolis Garcia is a He's built.
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He's like a linebacker playing outfield.
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It's insane. The guy's jacked.
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Props to the umpire for stepping in.
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Yeah, the real MVP of the of the night.
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My goodness. Like, you have to think as an
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umpire there's like a level of or like a degree of
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invincibility because you're like these.
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These guys would have to come absolutely unhinged for anything
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to happen to me. And the odds of that happening
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are slim to none. But also like you're you're
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you're essentially staring down the barrel of an Adolis Garcia
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gun, which I don't know if I'm exactly.
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I'm not thrilled about that. I'm not billed for that.
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I'm not billed for that. I'm not where he's essentially
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just seeing red. I'm not.
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I'm not. Yeah, not billed for that.
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And then as we mentioned the Jose Altuve home run, I mean
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talk about turning the tables when he made contact.
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I I don't even know what I. Thought it looked like a lot of
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label. It looked like he didn't really
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catch the barrel. And I was like, especially
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watching Evan Turner like or Evan Evan Carter like work his
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way back to the track. I was like, I think we're OK.
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I think we're OK. I think we're OK, not OK.
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It's it's one of those scenarios where you have all of the
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ingredients laid out for just a storybook moment, but you're
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just like it just it doesn't happen here, right?
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Like, the odds are just stacked against him that the odds of
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something like this happening aren't great.
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It's Leclerc who's been good. Leclerc.
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Yeah, it makes it makes too much sense for this to not happen.
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But it's Jose Altuve and this seems to be what he does.
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He's now got. I think I saw the second most
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postseason home runs in baseball behind Manny Ramirez.
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And like I was telling you, I just don't get.
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I don't get how a guy with his, with his stature does what he
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does. I'm going to be 100% honest with
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our listeners right now. We had the game on at the
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office. I thought it was good to leave.
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I thought I was OK. So I missed it.
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Was there no, just kind of slide that in there?
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Yeah, so was there. So I missed it.
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Yeah. Anyway.
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Was there any point? That the camera like panned into
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the bullpen or the dugout, Wherever Chapman was, I don't
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recall seeing. Chapman show a Chapman reaction
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to that. I didn't recall seeing Chapman,
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but I saw the. Coolest thing.
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Like APTSD, You know, like curled up in a ball on the floor
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of the dugout kind of moment, yeah.
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You see Chapman with like, his army helmet on.
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You get explosions, like going off in the background.
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He's just like. Frozen teams like.
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Erotis, it's not you. You're not out there.
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You still haven't had your moment yet, Erotis.
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Get back. Come back to us, buddy.
28:31
No, but I saw the coolest thing, which I'm sure it happens more
28:36
than more than this particular instance.
28:39
But when they pant, when they showed the reaction, the Houston
28:42
dugout dude, they were all like packed, like sardines at the end
28:46
of the dugout, trying to like see over each other to see if
28:50
the ball made it into the scans. It wasn't just like, they're all
28:54
they all stayed in their spots and they're all just watching it
28:56
and they're like, Oh yeah, let's go.
28:57
Like, they immediately everybody was up, down, packed down the
29:02
the far end of the dugout. It was pretty cool, pretty cool.
29:06
But you're going to have to figure out a way to manage this,
29:12
to contain what Jose Altuve's doing, because I don't care what
29:16
the Astros do at home or how they've been playing at home as
29:20
of late. Yeah, that doesn't matter for
29:22
Jose Altuve. Apparently, like he, he is going
29:25
to have a significant role I would imagine, or an impact in
29:31
however many games are are still to be played, whether that's
29:34
one, whether that's two. He will have his moment.
29:38
Also, I mean, I I'm a sucker. I'm a sucker for sick defensive
29:45
plays. And we've we're talking about a
29:48
guy who is really good defensively, has gone through
29:51
stages of having yips. He made a play Thursday had to
30:00
be Thursday, ball up the middle, jump, throw gets him at 1st.
30:06
And I don't know man, there's just like when things are going
30:09
out two days away things are going.
30:11
When all things are working that way, it's watch out, watch out.
30:19
Game changer. Let's switch gears here.
30:23
I'm sure there's more we could get into, but we need to for the
30:26
second time, let's move on to the NLCSAA stint of games that
30:38
started off rather weird when this thing shifted to Arizona.
30:44
All of a sudden you you start seeing these reports of Philly's
30:47
fans buying tickets in bulk. And I thought, right off the bat
30:53
that's a bogus report because nobody has.
30:56
There aren't enough people to purchase that many tickets for
31:01
this to warrant a report. But it wasn't until I saw how
31:06
little they were going for that I said, oh, I could do that if I
31:10
wanted to. The tickets were going for $9.
31:14
Yeah dude, for Game 3. Talk about ye who have little
31:18
faith, bro. What are we doing?
31:22
Who chose that? And again, you got people in the
31:27
comments talking about, Did you forget that people have to work?
31:34
Let let's just have a quick a little heart to heart.
31:37
Here I think it's ball break these people for a lot of these
31:40
kids. So even even aside from that,
31:46
what do you want Major League Baseball to do?
31:49
Because I saw people talking about how I I saw how you got
31:53
people talking about, well, you're just catering to the East
31:56
Coast. It's not that you're catering to
31:57
the East Coast. You're catering to the rest of
31:59
the country. Like, OK, so the game has to
32:03
start a little bit earlier, and that sucks for the people out
32:05
West. But, like, the reality of it is
32:07
the rest of the country's day is 2-3 hours ahead of you.
32:12
So, like, I mean, just think of it as like a compromise.
32:16
Games like this, you have to start a little early.
32:18
But for the rest of the year, anybody out here that wants to
32:20
watch a game out there doesn't start out here.
32:24
It doesn't start till 10:00 PM and that's a 7:00 game out
32:27
there. That's beside the point.
32:32
It's the playoffs and it's this is this carries even more weight
32:37
than the conversation we had a week or two ago about the wild
32:40
card and Tampa and all that. That was the Wild Card.
32:44
I could maybe even slightly understand that.
32:46
I still think because it's the playoffs, it shouldn't matter.
32:49
But this is the NLCS. What are we doing?
32:52
Why is this conversation still being had?
32:54
Like take off from work? You have have a conversation
32:58
with your boss. You have this thing called PTO.
33:01
Or at least you should like take a day.
33:04
We had conversations in my office.
33:08
Get the get the whole. Yeah, get the whole office up.
33:12
Say, you know what, Hey, let's just, let's just chalk up today
33:14
as an L Let's go catch a game. Let's go catch a ball game.
33:18
Have a couple D back dogs. Like, I don't know, but stop
33:22
trying to tell me. Like, we have to work.
33:26
You're the one telling me all the time because you're out
33:29
there. Nobody works out there.
33:30
You said everybody just you're either golfing vacation mode.
33:36
So like. Especially working from home.
33:38
You're just like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to head
33:39
home. You don't know the office in the
33:42
morning. You're like, all right, I'm
33:43
going to head home around lunch. So answer a couple emails.
33:49
Spare me. Yeah, spare me the whole.
33:50
We got a work thing. That's that's insane.
33:53
Credit to them though. They packed it out.
33:55
I don't know what transpired from that's what that's what
33:59
transpired. A dub.
34:01
No, I'm talking about from between that report coming out
34:04
and game time. Be like, I don't know if D backs
34:07
fans like, Oh well, there's a game today, let's go.
34:09
You think there, Do you think there's a guy that's just like
34:13
looking at the numbers and he's like, let's set it at $9 and
34:22
then all of a sudden they get a win and he's like.
34:26
Let's go up to 121 dollars like. Is there one guy that's just
34:31
like, looking at it, he's like pricing it, You know, you ever
34:36
see that storage Wars show where they're like, yeah.
34:40
They buy a storage unit and they're like, I'll I'll give you
34:42
$800.00 for that. I don't know.
34:48
Yeah I don't understand what's what's going on here but I I
34:51
suggested to USA you should go to the to game five tonight and
34:54
then you're like, yeah. I think the prices went up and I
34:56
checked and I I think it was like 135.
34:58
So we've gone in two days we've gone from $9 to like 130 a 140.
35:03
So I guess that's what a that's what a couple dubs will do for
35:07
you. But credit to the snakes man
35:09
snakes alive. How about it?
35:13
Totally flipping the script. Good.
35:16
Baseball, I will say for Thursday's game, Man, forget
35:25
what day it is sometimes Thursday's game.
35:28
That was the two, one ball game, right?
35:32
Yeah, Yep. 2 to one. That was the.
35:39
What was that? That was Marte.
35:40
Yeah. Marte.
35:41
Single in the in the night. For such a well.
35:46
Play defensive game really like things kind of started to
35:50
unravel a little bit with errors and and strange plays and for
36:00
the I think Bryce scored on that pass ball and then you just see
36:07
like just strange stuff. It's it's weird for a game to
36:12
just totally flip and you see a couple errors and a couple like.
36:16
Whether it's not errors or like mental mistakes or whatever,
36:19
completely flipped the game. But overall, I mean, I don't.
36:24
That Diamondbacks game didn't need to be a walk off.
36:26
I think that was their game. I mean, the gift, the only run
36:31
the Phillies got was a gift. I think that was with two outs
36:34
too, wasn't it? One or two outs?
36:39
Yeah, I think no, I think you're right.
36:42
I think it was 2 outs, yeah. I don't know the the take away I
36:49
had from that game and game four honestly, was that Kimbrel in
36:55
the postseason is not like we have to figure out and quick a
37:03
different leverage point for him to come into the game.
37:07
Because it's not, it's not working and it's not like this.
37:12
This shouldn't come as a surprise.
37:14
Like he has a history of this. We've seen this before and I
37:23
don't know if it just means going to out, excuse me, going
37:28
to Alvarado when you would typically go to Kimbrel, then
37:33
that opens up, it's like, OK, well then who goes And when
37:35
Alvarado was supposed to go in, I don't know, but camera's got
37:41
to figure it out, dude. Like it's it's a heart attack
37:43
every time he comes out to pitch.
37:45
Yeah, four. I think I saw 4IN runs in the
37:49
last inning total that he's thrown.
37:56
Yeah, yeah, he gave up three in game four.
37:59
Yeah 'cause he gave up the the game time Homer to Alec Thomas,
38:06
which talk about coming unglued. Dude that.
38:08
Pace me up, the fact that I'm in the pool too, in the pool.
38:12
Dude, dude, it's exciting. I got You want to talk about
38:20
getting gassed up? When I saw them rock, when I saw
38:23
them walk out in the black unis, I was like, oh, OK, we're tying
38:28
this baby up. We are tying this series up.
38:32
And sure enough, they did. How about that?
38:35
Insane. Series of plays that happened.
38:41
Ball up the line at third. Boom.
38:43
Throws it home. Was it who what?
38:46
No. It was the other way around.
38:47
It was it was it was AD backs on defense.
38:51
Ball up the line at 3rd, throws it home, gets bobbled.
38:55
Another run comes around and scores.
38:57
Gabby Moreno. Then like turns and hoses.
38:59
Boom at that second. Just a just a Oh yeah, the two
39:05
run, the two run ground out to to third, yeah.
39:09
Wild. What a wild series of events
39:13
there. But yeah, Alex.
39:16
Alex Thomas, Man, that was pinch hit, right?
39:24
Did I see? Biggest moment in his career,
39:27
for sure. Like the new number one moment
39:31
in his career. That's gotta be.
39:35
I wouldn't have slept that night.
39:37
I wouldn't have slept last night at all.
39:42
I gotta, I gotta confirm. I think that was.
39:45
I think that was a pinch hit. Pinch hit.
39:49
AB. Yeah, Huge moment, dude.
39:53
And have you noticed that him and Corbin Carroll have like
39:59
similar approaches at the plate? Super similar.
40:05
He wouldn't have running the ball down in the outfield.
40:07
I'm like, right? Speaking of running long lost.
40:12
Brothers, can I can I give some love to the base cams?
40:19
Because I don't know if you saw it, but there was the was it
40:22
game? It may have been game.
40:25
Three. Was that game three where you
40:31
saw Alec Thomas rounding third on just a dead Sprint home?
40:37
Did you see that? I don't think so.
40:39
Was flying, flying. It was like the now I'm talking
40:45
about like the camera in the base.
40:47
Oh no, I didn't see that. Insane dude.
40:51
If you if you need some perspective on how on how fast
40:54
that that kid is, my goodness, yeah, couple.
40:59
Yeah, just some. That was a pin shit for nice.
41:02
Yeah, I want to give some love to P Fat, for sure.
41:08
Yes, dude. Like, talk about showing up and
41:13
like, really letting everybody know how to pronounce it because
41:18
it's fought and being like, I'm here, I'm the guy.
41:24
Five and two thirds 9 K's didn't like how he got pulled to be
41:29
honest with you, but my man diced, diced, had crazy good
41:36
tempo on the mound. Just was in really good rhythm.
41:40
Like that. Was fun to watch.
41:44
Yeah, and not only did they pull him.
41:47
Well again not not take anything away from the FOT conversation
41:52
guy dice but you mentioned getting pulled they pulled him
41:57
for that the the Salfronk guy or Salt I I don't know he is not
42:04
had a great couple of games he is he's walked he walked two he
42:09
had he he threw 1/3 of an inning walked two when when he came in
42:14
for for P FOT and then. Last night came in and walked
42:21
three through 1/3 of an inning. And you can tell the
42:26
inexperiences there, because if you were watching his body
42:29
length, which was all over the place, I'm like, dude, if you're
42:32
trying to win this game right now, you're going to have to set
42:34
that aside and like go pout about it in the tunnel.
42:37
Because I didn't like the didn't like the pull at all.
42:42
I don't like that guy either. And then my other name I'm going
42:46
to give love for I I I have to be in the majority of baseball
42:53
fans that really didn't fully understand the Dalton Var show
42:58
trade. There was a lot of hype around
43:01
that name and when they traded him, I was like, I don't
43:05
understand. Gabrielle Moreno is real, real,
43:15
and I mean like has probably established himself as a top
43:19
five catcher in baseball. Wow.
43:23
Yeah. I'm When you're throwing
43:28
freaking 100 mile an hour bowling balls underneath his
43:31
hands from Jose Alvarado and he's pulling that pitch and
43:35
going to left center gap, that is insane.
43:45
That dude is real, real. So I got to give mad respect to
43:52
him and he needs to be a household name when it comes to
43:56
catchers. This dude is going to be very
43:59
good. He's only going to get better.
44:04
Like the Diamondbacks have them at gym.
44:11
Unless they turn around and ship him out, too, they better not.
44:14
I don't think they're doing anything, man.
44:16
I was trying to tell some, like, people in the office yesterday
44:18
that aren't really like baseball fans, just, you know, they're
44:21
excited about the Diamondbacks. They don't really know.
44:24
And they're like, is this real? And I'm like, oh, yeah, this
44:27
team's real. They're going to add.
44:28
They're going to get better. But this team is real.
44:31
They're going to be back. This wasn't that fluky Giants
44:35
thing we saw. This is a Diamondbacks team
44:38
that's young, They're put together, they're playing good
44:41
ball. They needed some additions.
44:43
No matter how this season goes, no matter how the rest of this
44:46
series and and World Series go, they got to add.
44:50
But they're going to be going to be here for real.
44:58
The Phillies need to start hitting, man.
44:59
They need to start swinging it. I'm going to put up five in Game
45:05
4. I'm not two of those on some
45:08
goofy play. Yeah, I need, I need barrels.
45:14
I need them to, I need them to show up.
45:17
I need some barrels. So that's that's as dope as it's
45:25
been here and Chase. It's it's not as much for me as
45:31
them needing to hit is them. Needing to capitalize on these
45:36
leverage situations when they're on the other side of the ball
45:39
because you can't just bank on this offense.
45:43
Putting up 10 every night because they're not going to.
45:46
So you're gonna need. To me it comes down to a guy
45:49
like Kimbrel. Like, going back to what I was
45:50
saying, if if this is gonna be one of your two, three arms,
45:57
which it has been for a while now, you need to have and and
46:03
I'm not. This isn't ground breaking
46:05
obviously, but like if you're going to insert him into the
46:09
game, it has to be in a situation to where it's not
46:12
going to cost you. Potentially this at this point,
46:15
potentially the series now because we're now we're up, now
46:19
we're tied up to two. If you If he comes in in game
46:23
five in any capacity and blows it, that very well could be the
46:28
series for the Phillies. It's true, It's very true.
46:35
But I mean, this was on a bullpen day, so I think the only
46:40
guy left in the pen at that moment was Lorenzen after
46:46
Alvarado came in, right? I think Lorenzen was the only
46:49
one left. So it's just one of those days,
46:52
man. We're like that.
46:54
That's where you need offensive stuff.
46:57
I'm not letting Kimbrough off the hook, but.
47:00
Lorenzen say that again. I think he was the only one
47:03
left, wasn't he? Oh, to not come in Game 4, yeah.
47:07
Yeah, they went through, I mean, Sanchez started.
47:11
You got Hoffman, Strom, Dominguez, Soto, Kirk Green,
47:15
Kimbrel and Alvarado, Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, it's it's tough.
47:22
But I mean, the Phillies are the Phillies.
47:27
They they I've. I've don't think I've ever seen
47:30
a team be able to snatch momentum back as quick.
47:39
Phillies are capable of that. For their sake, though, I'm just
47:42
not thrilled about the fact that they still have one left to go
47:46
tonight in Chase. Because that's a Who's the
47:50
starters tonight? That's a pivotal game.
47:59
Who do we got? Oh, Wheeler.
48:02
Gallon. Oh, my damn.
48:05
I wish I should have gone. I should have gone for sure.
48:08
You. Can still go, dude.
48:09
Just just leave work. Just bail on work.
48:13
I'd love to, man. Yeah.
48:19
Like I said I'm not I'm not thrilled that they still have
48:21
one to go in an environment that seemingly has has picked up
48:25
steam just in 48 hours. Like I I'm I'm thinking that now
48:30
that they've knotted the series up at 2:00.
48:34
I think Chase, you're going to, you're going to see, especially
48:37
given that it's not coming back here like this is it for.
48:42
Chase for this series. So they are going to, those are
48:44
going to show. They are going to be letting
48:46
them have it. Did you see the?
48:48
The guy signed the Snakes Alive sign that they reproduce for all
48:52
the fans last night. That was what's I I picked that
48:55
out live. I remember I was like, really,
48:57
dude, like, you just went to a word doc and then it went viral.
49:02
It's like, oh, I love it. I don't know what it is about
49:06
that ballpark and having just like Microsoft Word design works
49:12
done because that was where the Great Britain jersey made its
49:15
debut back in March. And you got this.
49:18
I don't know. Maybe that's maybe that's the
49:20
move. I wonder what's the It's
49:23
starting to cool down here. Like next week.
49:29
Next week's All 80s now. I'll still be 100 today.
49:33
So I was gonna say if the roof is open tonight, I'd be sick,
49:36
but probably better if it's closed.
49:38
More noise. Yeah, that's.
49:42
That's something that I have not understood.
49:44
I don't care like how nice it is outside if it's the postseason.
49:47
Shouldn't all of these parks that have roofs, shouldn't they
49:53
just be closed all the time, which I guess is three of the
49:57
four parks that we're dealing with here.
49:59
Like, shouldn't they just be closed every night?
50:02
Why? Why would you take away that
50:05
element of of home field advantage?
50:07
I don't know no say. Doesn't make any sense, right?
50:15
Like it. What do you got tonight though?
50:17
How you going? I hate to say it, I think the D
50:26
backs get it done. I still have Philly taking this
50:30
series because that of all the hills that I'm going to die on
50:34
with this series, it's that the, the, the one that I will die on
50:39
the most would be. Philly winning at home, that's
50:44
just a given. Yeah.
50:46
So I say I say Arizona goes up 3, two, but I say Philly takes
50:51
it in seven. I go the opposite.
50:54
I in Zack Wheeler, I believe Gallon.
51:00
See, I think Philly's hitters kind of smell a little blood in
51:03
the water with Gallon. Last time out wasn't great.
51:08
I think Wheeler is going to step up and be like, All right,
51:11
Bullpen is taxed. I'm giving you.
51:13
I'm giving you A7 strong. Give me 7 strong tonight from
51:17
Wheeler. Phillies take it.
51:20
And then they win the first one back home.
51:23
Phillies in six. I don't know, dude.
51:31
I feel like I I hate I I really don't want to admit it, but I
51:35
feel like if we're being honest. That's an offense that can just
51:39
immediately take the vibes out of the crowd.
51:41
That's true. But like you have to you have to
51:44
think that there is a little, there's a little bit of shell
51:49
shock going on right now. I don't think after going up two
51:52
O the wave in the in the fashion that they did.
51:55
I don't think they saw this series going 22 through 4:00.
52:01
I really don't, dude. I think that there's a lot of
52:03
dudes in there with a very low heartbeat.
52:05
That's just low, low heart rate. That's just very chill, very
52:09
calm, cool, collected. I want to believe you.
52:12
I I want to be on that page, but I Philly's come out with a big
52:16
old right in the first couple innings and takes the crowd out
52:21
of it. Who?
52:26
Who do you see being The X Factor in Game 5 for Philly's D
52:30
backs? Who do you see being the MVP of
52:36
this game? Well, based on what you said, it
52:40
sounds like it'll be Wheeler. If you see Wheeler just taking
52:42
the ball, it probably is, yeah, probably is Wheeler.
52:45
I I don't think the offense is going to do a ton of damage
52:49
against Gallon. It's not what I'm saying.
52:50
It's probably going to be like a couple home runs or a home run
52:54
with a dude or two on, and then that's kind of like the offense
52:59
for the night. But I mean, line up wise, like,
53:05
pick whoever you want. You know, someone's going to get
53:08
them. But yeah, I think Wheeler is
53:10
like, you're going to see an ace tonight, dude.
53:12
You're going to see an ace. That's like, my bullpen needs
53:15
this. I'm.
53:19
I'm going minimum, 7 minimum. OK All right.
53:23
Give me ACG. How sick would that be?
53:26
OK. Yeah.
53:28
I mean, if there's guys going to do it for like it'd be Wheeler.
53:33
All right. So you see it going six.
53:35
What about the other series? Because the last, the next time
53:37
that you guys hear from us, the series will be over.
53:39
So what do you got the the other series going?
53:45
You think Houston's just going to do it right away?
53:47
Right. Right away.
53:48
Yeah, right away. Yeah, right away.
53:52
Game 6 First team in history. Fall Down O2 at home.
53:59
What did we say last episode? Oh, and 21.
54:01
Oh, and 21. So it'll be one and 21, and you
54:05
talk about the the group of guys who've been covering this game,
54:10
they've been mentioning it over and over again, reminding every
54:13
Yankee fan history, Jeter and Poppy on the coverage, some
54:20
other guy that still manages to get a spray tan.
54:25
What's that about? Why is a rod getting spray?
54:28
Tans, fellas, they're already dark.
54:30
Fellas, they're already dark. Stop.
54:33
Enough. Enough.
54:35
That's my favorite when he whenever he wants to make a
54:37
point. Anytime he wants to make a
54:39
point. Fellas, fellas.
54:41
Pure fellas. Yeah.
54:44
Yeah, Houston does it right away.
54:46
Right away. The This is a choke job.
54:50
This is an absolute choke job from the Rangers.
54:55
Choke job. I agree with you right away.
54:58
Game six. So I got Philly Z backs 17.
55:02
I got Houston cleaning things up right away in game six.
55:07
Like I said, next time you hear from us, this series will be
55:09
over. We'll be previewing the World
55:11
Series very well. Sounds like both of us have
55:18
Philly, Philly and Houston. Let's run it back, 2022.
55:22
Run it back. Love you guys.
55:25
Have a good weekend. Enjoy baseball.
55:27
Don't go chasing curveballs. Love.
55:29
You all, and as always, looking forward to talking more baseball
55:31
with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.