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Florida Constitutional Carry Thwarted By Florida Sheriffs, Suppressors, Remington, And More · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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All right, five minutes after the hour. It is the third and final
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hour of the Morning Show with Preston Scott. We are back with you.
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We planned to take Monday off and all I could say at the beginning of
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this program is sorry for what you heard. Didn't count on that being aired
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yesterday. I knew what was coming yesterday was not a plan day off though,
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just had a little family emergency and spent some time in the er on
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Monday night, not me personally, but with a loved one, and so
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that was just families first. And so the show just couldn't happen on Tuesday
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because I was unable to properly prepare for the show on Monday night. But
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we're back with you. Grant Allen over there in Studio one A. I'm
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here in Studio one B, and I am joined by Yes co founder of
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co host of Talent Outdoors, co founder of the Talent Training Group and Telling
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Range. He is Charlie Strickland. Hello, my friend, how are you?
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I am doing fantastic? How weird is it being back in this studio
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having moved your your production facility and Telling Outdoors to the to the Tactical Outfitters
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look it's always refreshing to come back here and know that that everything works right.
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It's not something that I put together. Poul Grant comes in and produces
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a show and we spend probably what ten minutes a day looking at everything trying
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to figure out if it's gonna work right or not. All right, everything's
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in order. This I checked it, double triple check. Yeah, okay,
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how does it sound funny? I don't get it. It's uh,
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you doesn't have hard to say it to you. Oh. By the way,
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Grant, I recorded some radio ads for Dothan Market. Uh, so
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when you come in on Friday, you may want to double check everything.
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Yeah, I don't know that. That's a that's a warning shot. I
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went in there and I'm like, okay, which button is a Grant push?
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Yeah? It looks good, but you've been there. It's uh,
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we've got couches in there, so we can you know, we have people
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come in and just sit back and spectate. Studio audience. Oh yeah,
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yeah, it's uh, it's it's I'll tell you what did you hear the
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Lama story? You gotta listen to two shows ago. You gotta hear the
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Lama story. I did not hear the lamas. Yeah, I gotta hear,
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yeah, gotta listen to episode to forty I mean three forty three.
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I think it was okay, three forty three, look at you, Yeah,
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three forty four. That's a lot of shows for a weekly show.
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Was here a three forty three? Three forty four? But that is the
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uh turn. It's awesome. It was so funny because we were just we
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mentioned something to do with a lama, and Fred is sitting there. He
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goes, that was my lama. And Fred introduced Fred to our audience.
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And I'm sorry that you have to do this. Fred Conrad local Fred Kanmaer
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read Esquire a local defense attorney. Super funny. Uh uh Fred, Fred,
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if you're listening, I'm not gonna embarrass you too much. The you
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know, Fred plays an your version of Coca cola spiced. Maybe he's a
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little spicy taste, definitely an acquired taste, very competent, very good attorney.
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Uh does good work. Also has a warped sense of humor and is
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and there is an acquired taste. And sometimes he's not Bible belt friendly and
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some of his off the air stories. But that's that's Fred. Anybody that
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knows him. He's the guy that shows up on Halloween every year wearing a
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costume in the court room. So there you go. I'm trying to think
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the last one was was it a penguin or a I thought it was a
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pickle this year. It was a pickle this year. Yeah, he looked
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like a plankton and SpongeBob because he's so little and was green anyway. So
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but no, he apparently you just got to listen to the episode it is.
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It is super, super funny, and that's been I've been told that's
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our funniest show ever. Oh boy, Yeah, you gotta listen to that
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on your next road trip. So that's that's a show that's going to have
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some outakes for me. Maybe maybe I don't know, maybe not on your
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show, on our show. Yeah, okay, Charlie and j D's Greatest
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Hits. It could be on the Greatest Hits album that we started. Huh,
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could be. There's no singing. Just remember that idea came here,
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just a whole segment. Yeah on nothing. Well I wouldn't say we,
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but you sure did. Well. You at any point in time, you
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could have asked me a question or turned this in a productive direction. But
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no, you just let us do what we do on a talle an outdoor
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show and just run our mouths with no purpose projecting his shortcoming on me.
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All right, that's you enabled me. He's been hanging out of with the
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protesters downtown. It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott on news Radio one hundred
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point seven Double UFLA or on NewsRadio doubled UFLA. Panama City dot Com back
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with Charlie Strickland hear on the radio program, and I told him there were
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a handful of things I wanted to talk about. I've gotten emails, I've
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gotten texts, I've gotten I've gotten people from my church reaching out because they
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know that we have a security team at our church where I think pretty well
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prepared for whatever. And Congress, there's a bill that's been introduced. Of
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course, it came from the illiberals that would suggest that if you were training
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at talent range, like you guys do that, any of that training where
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you're instructing somebody to do anything other than shooting at paper targets, would be
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considered military or we're a military preparation and training and would be ruled illegal.
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And would have to be stopped. And so the fear is that security teams
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and anybody doing active training against active shooters or preparing for just self defense purposes,
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that the government's going to come after it and stop it. We know
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you currently cannot in like all fifty states, you cannot have a private militia
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and conduct organized training. So you're not. We don't when we've always been
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careful when people come to us for training that you know, we're teaching people
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self defense, we're teaching people response to active shooter. We're teaching we're teaching
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it the correct way. We're teaching you and your buddy or or your family
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that's your house, or you and your family, or defending your home.
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And so any of our team type training is typically family oriented or business oriented
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or something. It's not militia training because that's not allowed. You're not allowed
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to have a private mala. It has to be organized, I mean,
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which is why we have the Florida Guard, we have the Florida National Guard.
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We have those things. The governors put together the Florida the reinstituted that
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you know, you currently you can go do whatever type of training you want.
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You just have to be careful that it's not perceived or viewed as unit
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or militia type training. Right. But that said, home defense, business,
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community defense, as far as response to active shooter or terrorist threats,
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things like that, that's okay. So passing the law that would prohibit the
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public from getting any type of training that could be what is is. First
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off, I don't think it would pass the House because you know, this
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is clearly a violation of our Second Amendment rights. And there are even a
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few Democrats that agree with those. Yeah, so I don't think it's going
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to pass. But the but certainly they have that in their brains. That
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and that's the fear of the liberal left, the anti gunners, the ant
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the people that are concerned because we have all the guns and we threaten to
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use them if there ever needed to be a true insurrection that you know,
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if there were ever a fight, obviously the people with the guns are going
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to win the fight, and they want to you know, they don't want
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guns. So that pretty much puts all the power in the hands of the
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right if the government were to fall apart. So you know, how do
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they go about that? Go back? They want to go after let's write
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some laws because that's going to make a difference, Like they've got nothing else
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to do. I just got a letter from my account it this week where
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the IRS is now flush with new, better paid, higher educated agents that
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will be conducting a plethora of they don't use that word, but I don't
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know how they phrased it, of new letter type audits where they'll send you
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a letter and demand information from your business so they can do more audits.
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And you know, the account is offering a service where you know, they
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pays a littlection for money, and well it's like insurance. If you get
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it for a flat fee, you we'll take care of everything, kind of
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like a a retainer. Yeah, well then they're on retainer anyway. But
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in this case they're anticipating a lot more audits because the federal government wants to
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get all of our money, yep, and don't want to let anything go.
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And you know, so it's big government, which is what conservatives and
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a writer against. That's how they want to control us. I'm not concerned
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about that passing, but it is concerning that that's a new route that they're
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trying, like Mexico suing the gun industry now and looking like that might go
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through back with Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training Group, co host of Talent
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Outdoors with JD. Johnson, and we're talking personal defense and all of the
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things that extend from there. I mentioned that there's actually been a pleasant surprise
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in all things government with gun because that doesn't happen. We don't say those
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words very often, that something's actually good that's going on. But you were
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telling me that suppressor turnaround times. It was promised that it was going to
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get better, and you're seeing yet, Well, you know, there's always
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some glitches, and if you are doing trusts the time, it's a little
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longer because establishment of the trust in the background checks and all that. Right,
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But if you are buying a suppressor silencer as an individual right now,
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which there's some advantages and disadvantages, the advantages that your turnaround time is pretty
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short. I'm seeing I get all the emails for the approvals that go through
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us right now on the E file, and I am regularly seeing right now
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the last two or three days, I'm seeing return foreign fours coming back,
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tax stamps coming back from Thanksgiving. Today, I saw one from November thirtieth,
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so you've got December January and two three weeks in February. So what's
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that? A twelve week, ten weeks, four and fours eight and two
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mores ten. I was ten weeks and so a ten week turnaround yesterday and
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I sent ford email straight to j D and Manna and I said, hey,
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look at this guy got two form fours to two stack tax stamps back
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in six days, six days, six days. Yeah. I mean sometimes
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wait by trying to buy a gun fills like they have to wait that long.
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But that's and the person that got the six days isn't like a law
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enforcement off. Just some dude you know, came in and bought, brought
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two cans and six days later. But he did him as an individual instead
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of a trust. Sure. Now the advantage of doing it as a trust
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is that, Okay, so I have a tax stamp and I have a
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silencer, and I'm doing something with it, and you say, hey,
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Charlie, let me Can I borrow that? Yeah, you can stand next
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to me, but you cannot take it hunting. I cannot loan it to
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you because I owned as an individual. Even if I have it in a
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trust, I can't loan it to you, but I can put you on
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my trust. Depending on what kind of trust it is, I can name
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you to my trust as a trustee and then you can have it. And
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so like, if you have a trust, then you members of your family.
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Can you know people that you put on it? When you pass away,
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all those things stay in the trust and then whoever the trustees are can
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maintain those. If it's an individual, they whoever inherit it says to go
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back through the entire process again and get another tax stamp. And if someone
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has a suppressor individually, can they convert it to a trust. Yeah,
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it's there's a process. Okay, you can't you can't get it. You
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can do an NFA trust, put all your stuff on there, and there's
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ways to do that. Certainly they can call and ask anybody who's a Class
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three dealer can pretty much walk you through there. We use silence a shop,
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you know with the kiosk and all that. Yeah, they do a
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lot of that for you, so we don't have to do the complicated work.
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But it's just encouraging that you know something is actually working to make things
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of that not a hindrance. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a big thing.
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It's a big market for Oh, yes, bouncers. I mean,
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we've got like two vaults full of them waiting on tax stamps. But now
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they're turnaround faster. That makes it. The faster the turnaround is on the
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paperwork, the more they sell. And I'm shooting more pleasant, yeah,
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I mean, and honestly, you know, I'm I'm you know, I
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digress. Well, let me ask you another question, because you know,
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you've been in law enforcement your whole life, You've been around it. Now
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you're back in law enforcement as well. Can you explain why the Florida Sheriff's
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Association is so adamantly opposed to full open carry inside Florida when every metric,
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every study shows that, in fact, crime goes down when it's enacted,
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and there are not ridiculous wild wild West abuses. Well, and listen,
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I'm in Georgia and Alabama all the time, and they have open carry.
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I never see people caring open I mean almost never. It's just that it
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frees you up to do that if you so choose, But people just are
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socially more understanding of the nuances and what it means, so people just don't
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do it. I mean, I'm in Dothing twice a week at our gun
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range, and I just don't I mean I go into town, I just
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don't see it. So it's not like the big fear is everybody's going to
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run around doing it. And they don't even consider that constitutional carry up there
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because they can't carry it in certain places. And that's more constitutional carrier than
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Florida has because we don't have it as far as how now. And Marion
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Hammer will tell you that back in the day when we had open carry,
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before we had concealed carry, the Share Association, Police Chief Association, all
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those people, law enforcement in general opposed concealed carry because they said, we
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want to be able to see the gun. So somebody's got a gun,
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we want to see the gun. We want to know that there's a gun
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when we pull up on seeing our officers. It's an officer safety issue and
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we don't want people care and concealed And they fought it, and then the
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legislature passed it, and then they repealed open carry behind the scenes. And
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now that they're trying to go and free up open cary, law enforcement as
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a general rule of saying, we don't want open guns because our officers will
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see them and it will distract them from doing their job. And I,
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you know, I just don't understand that way of thinking. It's a change,
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and I think they're afraid that people there'll be more guns out there.
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I just don't see that happening. And there's some nuances about well can I
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ask them if they have a can I ask them to see their license.
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There's a lot of questions as to how that would work. Welcome to m
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a D Radio Network. It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Picking up
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on our conversation with Charlie Strickland of the Talent Training Group and Talent Outdoors.
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If I were to I just want to drag this a couple of minutes longer.
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The Sheriff's Association fighting full constitutional carry, meaning open carry here in Florida.
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Charlie, if I were to say to you, well, okay,
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the evidence says crime goes down, evidence says it's not the wild wild West.
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In all these states that have it, it's just it's not true.
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So I'm going to be only five states that don't allow it. So I'm
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going to say to you, then, well then it's got to be that
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for somehow, some way, the majority of the sheriffs in the Florida Sheriff
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Association have to be illiberal Democrats, and we know that's not the case.
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It's not the case. It's not the case. Most of the sheriff's in
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the state of Florida are conservatives. They lean conservative on issues across the board.
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I don't understand. I get it because I'm a cop. I've been
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a cop my whole career. I've trained cops. I've worked for bosses that,
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while they were conservative, this this type of stuff concerned them. And
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one of the big concerns is, Okay, can my officers my officers show
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up And I heard this and time and time again. I don't want my
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officers to be distracted when they show up on a scene. Somebody's got a
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gun. They're focused on the gun. They're focused on that situation, that
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dynamic, instead of dealing with the problem at hand, and it can be
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dangerous. Well, you know, I've always been at the attitude. If
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I show up on a scene and somebody's got a holstered gun on and they're
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not waving it around and do anything stupid, They're on my side at that
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point in time. Yeah, they're yeah, can they pull it if they
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don't agree with me? If it's concealed, they can do the same thing.
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And I didn't know there was a gun, you know. So it's
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more but the dynamic changing if you look at the so is his training,
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his training, It is the level of maturity of the generation that's being hired
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in the law enforcement today. That people that have never been in a fight,
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people who have never been in confrontations, people that you know, are
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educated but not experienced in the ways of the world, and they haven't been
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exposed to I mean, you take a person who's led a sheltered life and
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went and got a college degree, never lived in a neighborhood highly populated by
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members of the minority community who might they might not know how to get along
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with, and all of a sudden, you thrust them into a basin street
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project here in town and you tell them to go work this out between these
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people. And you have no idea how the culture works, and I have
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no idea how to deal with conflict in that culture, and you know,
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they thrust you into it. And then all of a sudden, you add
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the dynamic that somebody's got a gun on their waiste and they're legally carrying it,
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and then you don't know whether you can challenge them or take it away
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from You're not allowed to take it away from it's the right to have it.
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You can't disarm everybody on the scene because you have no right to do
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that. And it adds a lot of complicating factors in there for law enforcement.
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But don't forget, sheriffs that our job is to protect and defend the
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constitution and the citizens of our community, no matter how complicated it is.
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And so while I love the shaff Association, I love the Sheriffs of State,
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I don't agree on this point and I'm never going to agree on this
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point because I feel like it is a constitutional right to carry firearms in whatever
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method we need to. All Right, it's a right we have. It
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is the right we have that it's being restrict allowed, it's being restricted.
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It's coming, it's going to happen. It's get on board, I mean,
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you know, start to be part of the solution, not part of
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the problem. And through politics and manipulation of politicians, you know, they've
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managed to keep this from happening. And while I there, again, I
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love my sheriffs. I love the sheriff that I that keeps me on his
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reserves. I provide training for him and his staff. I love doing it,
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awesome guy. But the Shriff's Association choosing to do this, or the
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Police Chiefs Association, or anybody else that might oppose it, I am in
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disagreement. I'm not in no disrespectful way, but hey, I just I
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think it's wrong. But there's a lot of public that it's scarce. Hope
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and carry scares people, and it's it's because they don't understand it, and
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they're afraid that they're going to be at the Chick fil A and look next
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to them or somebody would have opened nineteen eleven while their kids are playing.
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Yeah, yeah, that could happen. So what you go to any place
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where conservatives tend together and there's guns all over all over the place because you
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don't see them. Yeah, you know, every Sunday morning, go anywhere
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I go, I promise you somebody's hearing a gun. I would think so
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at least one. Charlie's trickling with me this morning in the Morning Show final
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segment. Here time flies when you're having fun. Oh so he's dragging out
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from me here. I don't know what. Okay, I'm playing you know,
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you know what? You know what? Next time I just talk to
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JD, you will actually certainly will. Charlie is strickling with us now.
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Once a month he and JD tag off and on and Charlie takes the third
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Wednesday of the month JD. The first I mentioned New York, of course,
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is earlier in the program. I talked about just hemorrhaging businesses and the
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ruling against Donald Trump's not going to help. People are just going to continue
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to pull money. I think the number is one trillion dollars has been pulled
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from New York in the last year or so. Good heading to Florida and
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Texas. Among the businesses that have left, and it's really hurt the Mohawk
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Valley up there is Remington. Remington is relocating to Georgia. First of all,
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does that have any impact on the industry itself, Well, Remington's been
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troubled for some time. They've been bankrupt and bought out and swapped and traded
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around. Like a lot of gun industries, a lot of gun manufacturers have
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been over time. There's been lawsuits that have heard them, and there's a
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lot of stuff going on with them. But I've been to the factory an
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alien. I'm a Remington armorer. I've been up there, learned to work
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on their rifles, work on their shotguns. Pavilion are devastating, so in
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Ilian it is all about Remington. That factory has been there for generations,
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I mean generations, And you go to the factory line. We got a
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tour and you're talking to somebody who's a machinist and they're working where their father
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worked, where their grandfather worked, in the same place, the same table
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as doing the same job. It's a generational business and it's so integrated in
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that community. They're basically destroying that community by moving. But they are moving
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because financially and legally and with all the regulations and stuff that are going on
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up there and the tax implications and all that, they got to go.
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And I'm sure a bunch of those people are probably moving too. But it's
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I mean, it's devastating for the area and they can't help it because that
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area wouldn't vote that way, but New York has and the population center controls
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it. I mean, it's no different than you know, a lot of
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South Florida people control what happens throughout Florida, and Florida is a divided not
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that I mean, we are definitely where we need to be as a state,
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don't get me wrong. But if you think that Jackson County, Holmes
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County, Washington County of Scambia, those types of counties up here control you
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don't. We don't control the state. The state's controlled by people from somewhere
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else. Luckily we're all more or less on the same page. So but
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I mean, just think about it. There it is you know, a
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lot more people in Miami than there are in Tylahassee. Is it, overall,
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broadly speaking, a good thing that Remington packed up and left. I
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think so, not for the employees of Remington, but for the and their
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unions and stuff up there too. And I think it's good for Remington.
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I think it's good for the industry because when you see a powerhouse in the
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industry, go, you know what, we don't like your laws. We're
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leaving me. There's a message. Truthfully, Charlie, you and I know
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that Remington has been in and out of bankruptcy and kind of been bought up
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and moved it. Most people hear Remington, they hear Winchester, they hear
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brands that are iconic in an industry, and they just go, Wow,
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they're moving. You know, Colt Cult anacon to cult, Pythons Cult is
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owned by c Z. You know that's cult. It's not owned by Colt.
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There's no cults anymore. They just put Colt on the things they're making,
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on some of the same machinery and some of the same people. But
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it's not owned by Colt anymore. As you've got an old cold, it's
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worth something because it's a real cult. You know, they're making some good
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stuff now. So the the industry is being swapped and traded and moved around
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off. I'm just like anything else, you know, banks, credit unions,
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car manufacturers, I mean, who makes Chrysler nowadays, or Dides.
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I mean, I don't know who owns it anymore. You know. It's
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but I like seeing things. I like seeing organizations pack up and leave the
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elon musks of the word. You know what, I'm going to get out
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of here and go to Texas or something or was it Jeff Bezos or somebody,
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you know, I'm I'm packing up, going to Florida. Yep,
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he saved six hundred million dollars. I believe it was in Texas, from
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the state of Washington to the free state of Florida. Yes, I mean
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we don't have our all of our constitutional Second Amendment rights here, yeah,
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but we are certainly the free state of Florida. I'd rather live here than
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most places here Texas. I kind of like Alabama too, but you know,
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it's a whatever. Good to see you, good see great thanks here,
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Thanks for coming in. Charlie Strickland with us this morning on the Morning Show.