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NFL Free Agency - Episode 4 · Banter with the Boys

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You're listening to banter with the boys talking all things sports
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Get laced up. It's time for banter with the boys
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What's up everybody welcome back to banner with the boys
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We have had one heck of a week in the NFL with a lot of drama. We had free agency kickoff
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We have a lot to talk about today. Let's bring everybody in joined today by two fine gentlemen first, Mr. Smelty
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How you doing? How you feeling? I'm feeling pretty nice today Tyler pretty good
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Long week of work. I'm excited to wrap it up with a podcast. I can't lie
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I hear you there brother nothing better than talking some football on a Friday night putting back some BLs gotta love it
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And in front of me here Cole. How are you doing, sir? Doing good
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Couldn't stop checking my Instagram checking all of the NFL updates
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It just seems like so much has happened in such a short time. So happy to recap it here today
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Yeah, I couldn't agree. My phone was just non-stop going off and as a Packers fan
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You know, I was constantly refreshing some Twitter feeds looking for certain something here, but we got some clarification
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We'll get into later. But let's start off with these free agency and a little bit of trades too
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It's not just gonna recap free agency. We're gonna go over some of the things that we're gonna talk about today
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Some big moves that were made via trade as well some game-changing potential out there, but let's kick it off with you Smelty
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What do you have here? So I'm gonna go ahead and start it off with old James Bradbury resigning with the Eagles
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Obviously right now everybody knows who he is because of that penalty in the Super Bowl
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We're not gonna talk about that because that has been already talked about so many times by others
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So we just won't be talking about that
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But what people do tend to forget is that he was cut by the Giants the year before
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So he signed a one-year prove-it deal with Philly and I would go ahead and say that he absolutely proved it
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He was the fourth best
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Corner in the league as far as passer rating goes. He only led up a 54.7 passer rating
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I mean, that's almost nothing. So that's a great move by the Eagles to retain Bradbury
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So he signed a three-year deal 38 million with 20 mil guaranteed with the contract worth up to
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44 million with incentives. I
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Mean you have to resign that guy. I mean he's all pro right now
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Well, I'll talk about Darius Lane a second
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But at the moment they didn't know if Darius was gonna stay get traded released
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They had no idea what was going on
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And so when people asked Brad Bradbury kind of why he resigned he felt quote the Eagles were the best fit and it meant
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A lot to him that the team wanted him back so bad. He just said it felt good to be wanted this late in his career
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He's 29 years old and still looking to make plays. Yeah, the crazy thing about that
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It's you know, he was released by the Giants
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He had a bounce back year with Philadelphia now we finally getting the payday and in my opinion he deserves
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I don't think he was deserving of being cut by the Giants. They were kind of a wreck at that point and
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You know, it was a team-friendly deal at that. He's only the 14th highest paid corner in the league
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So that's you know, I in my opinion a really really good deal and the Eagles the Eagle the Eagles
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The Eagles have their number one and two corner lockdown for the next couple of years. I'm happy for Bradbury
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He I mean I thought he deserved to stay with the Giants even I did not think he should have been cut
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And I'm just happy to see him sign even longer and I'm just excited to see him here in the NFL in the future
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The other thing to note with the Giants as well is they're paying a Dory Jackson
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More than James Bradbury is being paid by Philadelphia with this deal who won that I think we all know the answer to that
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but as we look at the other side of
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The field from Bradbury you got Darius Slay and talk about a carousel with him, right?
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So March 10th Eagles grant Slay permission to seek a trade. I mean that threw me out like off balance almost
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I'm no Eagles fan
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I'm a Vikings fan. So rest in peace me but
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Like that was just crazy. I couldn't believe that they were possibly gonna trade this guy
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And I don't know just threw me off
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So then we moved to March 15th Eagles are now set to release Slay with a post June 1st
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designation therefore they get 17 and a half million cap rather than if they released him right away it would have been
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3.7 so definitely waiting till that June 1st and then literally that night
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Slay went ahead and tweeted at about 10 o'clock quote back like I never left run it back
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So he was back so I ended up signing a three-year deal
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Which is exactly what he wanted from the beginning at 42 million dollars that includes 23 million guaranteed
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Slay is 32 years old. Is that worth it at this point in Slay's career? What do you guys what do you guys think?
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I don't know. It's also kind of interesting when you talk about the guaranteed how close Bradbury really is that guarantee especially because I mean
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Arguably hasn't proved himself as much as Slay in the NFL
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So to get that guarantee if they they see who the real rising star is and who's probably gonna be there for the long term
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Yeah, most definitely. I think the only thing that that led them to that decision was Bradbury's three years younger
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You know, you don't often see 32 year old players, let alone cornerbacks
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I mean take quarterbacks out of the equation here because that's they're an anomaly in the whole contract situation as a whole
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But a 32 year old quarterback making that kind of money signing an extension
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Just goes to show how much actual work these guys put into their bodies nowadays and they can have the longevity that he just didn't
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Have even ten years ago, you know
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It wasn't that long ago where a cornerback shelf life was about ten years
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And then you're talking about moving them into the slaughter or hybrid safety role to prolong their career and you know guys are like Slayer
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Just proving that wrong
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It's really impressive, especially with cornerbacks like that. I mean
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32 now especially with like the talent we have coming out of college. It's a complete different beast, right?
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Now you got guys come out of college running four fours
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Like nothing 35 inch verticals. It's a different beast to be that old and still get signed and still show to be you know
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Earned a starting spot. It's pretty impressive. Well, and here's the deal. I mean, I'm not surprised he got some guaranteed money here
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I mean his first six games
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He only gave up a 31.8 passer rating and had three picks in the first six games of the season. I mean everybody
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Obviously knew who he was to begin with but that put him back on the map at 32 years old weren't two of those picks
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against the Vikings
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next question
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And then
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Literally moving on I don't want to talk about that, but he absolutely locked Justin Jefferson down
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I was actually gonna mark down those stats for me to bring up and then I decided against it as a Vikings fan and
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A JJ fan that we just don't need to talk about that anymore. He's obviously gonna raise his game up
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So yeah, we'll forget about it, but I will bring up
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Back to Darius Slay week seven through through the Super Bowl now including the Super Bowl. He gave up a
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114.1 passer rating
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Yeah, let that let that settle in for a second
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114.1 passer rating week seven through the Super Bowl
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So knowing what he's still capable of at his age at those first six games and seeing how he ended the season
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Would you have signed him to that three-year deal 42 million dollar extension with 23 million guaranteed?
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That's a tough ass that blows my mind that that's how he performed in
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You're not even the later half of the season that goes back to before the even halfway mark
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So that that kind of puts me in shock
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but at the end of the day, you know, even if I
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Don't know. I mean that's tough because even if Bradbury overtakes him
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That's a lot of money you're paying for a number two corner
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And I don't know I mean I'm asking this truly is does he travel with the number one or did they just split the field?
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Half and half without like literally pulling that up right now and from what I was reading earlier today
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I think they kind of split it a little bit. They kind of play matchups kind of see what's going on
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Because Slay locked down JJ and week two or whatever it was when they played the Vikings
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If they they played the Vikings today, I don't think they're putting slay on JJ
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I think Bradbury's getting that job. So I think with him coming back you can see that change next year
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I think maybe Bradbury will follow the number one
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I don't know because you can only imagine that Slay's speed might diminish just a little bit by next season
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But I have no idea
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Yeah, the interesting thing about that is there's a strategy that they're the Patriots have always used with their number one corner
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Whether it's Revis whether it's Gilmore that you take the number one corner
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You put them on the number two receiver
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You put your number two corner on the number one and then put a safety over top
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So you're giving them a double team automatically
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Where I could see that even kind of forming into that Eagles defense if Slay's production does keep kind of dropping off as is
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Where he just simply can't cover the number one and you know, and like you said, Cole you got receivers coming in
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You know the Garrett Willsons the Chris Olaves that are coming in just burners running four threes four fours and have the rut
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running ability of Salva
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Six seven year Devontae Adams, you know, they're not to Devontae Adams right now
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Don't get me wrong, but in terms of where Devontae was year one versus what these cats are year one
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Like that's that's a tough question to see if the money really is worth it
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Yeah, I mean without again watching like every second of tape right in front of me
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Slays kind of feeling like and not to again bring up my Vikings
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But he kind of reminds me like an Antoine Winfield kind of now
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He's kind of gonna be following that slack guy a little bit kind of plant
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Maybe almost nickel corner at this point to like I don't know. We'll see
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What they decide to do with them and at the moment you brought up this having the safety over the top of like say sleigh
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We don't know who they're playing at safety right now, which will you know, I'll touch on that in a little bit
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But at the moment we have no idea who's gonna be the safeties for the Eagles right now
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Yeah, and I was definitely gonna touch on that too. I mean just like with
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You don't have like the Dermott and James back there for you, right? You don't have those guys that can fly around the field
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So the split in the field kind of right now seems like the best move
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Especially with the big wide receivers. I don't know. I don't seem going into the slot though
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I see him being outside corner still just with help over help over top maybe but he's still so good in short routes and all that
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Well, one thing again not to bring up my Vikings, but Patrick Peterson kind I mean
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I think Daria Slay is still better than Patrick Peterson right now today for sure, but
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Like we're getting into that same situation
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Again at the beginning of the year. I don't I don't know if they're gonna be able to do that
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I think at the beginning of the year, I don't I don't have the numbers for Patrick P in front of me
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But I think again kind of like through the same
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Uh length of time that I was talking about Slay those first six weeks
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I think Patrick P killed it and then as the season progressed dude, he was just burnt toast
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I don't know. Maybe he'll get rejuvenated and with the Steelers now that he's there
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Um, but I feel like Slay's kind of going that direction
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I think the biggest thing with Slay you're gonna see probably next year is like Tyler was saying with the Patriots
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Having that safety over top and keeping him on press. Maybe a lot more and really locking in that first 12 to 15 yard range
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Yeah, I could definitely agree with that
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You know where he can still use his physicality and his brain behind it to be where he lacks up in the fit in the
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Athleticism he can make up with just his overall knowledge of the game
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You know, I I could very easily see the Darrell Rivas Richard Sherman in the later years with Slay where you know
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They weren't what they were in their prime
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But there's still a top 15 cornerback in the league, but you're not paying a 15
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Top 15 cornerback this kind of money
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So it kind of translates back to what you were saying smelty is
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You know if his level of production does drop off even a little bit where it puts him in that 10 to 15 10 to 20
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Range you're paying him way too much at that point. Yeah
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Do you guys know the tackles difference on these two corners between the uh, Slay and Bradbury?
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I don't but I can get that number for you here because that's that's a big deal too
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I mean that kind of would translate more into where we're seeing more on a press who we might be seeing more in number two
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Or who can you know disrupt that pass game and their run game and yeah
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I'm sorry
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I didn't mean to cut you off and not and not to bring this up because this is not the only thing that matters
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But you know how I mentioned that Slay had three picks in those first six games. He had none the rest of the season
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Zero. Yeah, if you look at the tackle stats there, so Slay did have more at 55, but Bradbury had 44
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So the difference isn't
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Astronomically difference same interceptions with both of them having three
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But uh, yeah that that much of a difference
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I don't know
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I don't know if that would play a deciding factor with it's so small of a gap there
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Which I mean I expect as a as a cornerback though 10 tackles is you know, that can be a substantial amount
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but
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Especially on corner two. I mean they're not you know, they're not all over the ball, right?
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I mean they're playing right now, especially with that low of tackles on a season. They're more so coverage guys, so you could easily see them
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Floating around on that. Yeah
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The other thing with that as well is how this Philadelphia defense is built is you're not relying on your corners to make those tackles
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They're front seven so good that if they're getting to the corners
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Then they're they're failing that run, you know 75 80 percent of the time because that's just not how the defense is built
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So, I mean that could play a factor in it as well because if you look at like Jalen Ramsey
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Interesting just to see what his tackle stats are when he's you know, almost undoubtedly the
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Most aggressive corner in the league, especially when it comes to tackling
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Um, yeah, I'll get that number for you here real quick. See it was 88 you look at 88 versus 55
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So that's where you're and again Jalen Ramsey an anomaly like no other corner is probably going to come close to that 88 number
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But yeah, that definitely goes to show just the difference in the overall defense. It's really impressive, especially with cornerbacks like that. I mean
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32 now, especially with like the talent we have coming out of college. It's a complete different beast, right?
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Now you got guys come out of college running four fours
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Like nothing 35 inch verticals. It's a different beast to be that old and still get signed and still show to be you know
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Earned a starting spot. It's pretty impressive
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I mean, yeah, Ramsey is definitely a difference maker two other big difference makers have got to be Tremaine Edmonds and Jordan Poirier
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Obviously, I'm a New York kid went to college in Buffalo
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Went to college in Buffalo huge Buffalo Bills guy losing Tremaine Edmonds huge hit went to the Bears signed a four-year
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72 million dollar contract 50 mil of that being guaranteed
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At the end of the day it sucks losing him, but I'm just happy that that guy got paid
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I think he deserves it and I think he's got to be a maybe a top five, you know backer in the nfl
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Might be a stretch there, but I think he's got such promise and such a bright future that he's got to be in that conversation
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Dang top five. I I really hope not because him coming to the nfc north. I'm already not a big fan of
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Um the one thing that i'm definitely not a big fan of but good for him is in his five seasons
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It looks like he's only missed six games
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So as a viking fan i'm like cool, so he's gonna play every game pretty much right?
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So and he's almost got a hundred tackles
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Let's see. He's got over a hundred tackles in two of those five and over 90 in in all of the seasons
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He's been in nfl. So I think i'm definitely not looking forward to a defensive playmaker in nfc north
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more smelty the bears had roquan smith got rid of him and replaced him with Tremaine Edmonds
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I thought we could get away with them. Just signing tj edwards and then going with the
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rookie they had last year from wisconsin his name is
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He's slipping my mind right now if i'm oh that's gonna bother me
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But nonetheless Tremaine Edmonds is a big signing. I mean he turns out to be the fourth highest paid inside linebacker now and uh
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Yeah, i'm not looking forward to seeing him jake sanborn jake sanborn. There you go
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Yeah, and he he had a decent year. He came on in the later half of the year
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So the bears are putting together some young talent at that linebacker position. I'm not looking forward to that
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Edmonds too. I mean i'm a bills fan. I've loved him. He's all over the field for us, but
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You got to think until last year matt milano wasn't really looked at as you know, one of the top
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Linebackers, I mean last two seasons. He's been the number one pass coverage linebacker in the nfl
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Does that play some sort of role on edmonds? I'm not trying to badmouth edmonds
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I love the guy. I love what he did for the bills, but does that play some sort of role?
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Does that take a lot off of Edmonds him being so dominant?
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Yeah, that's going to be interesting to see you know how that truly does affect your defense because I mean
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I don't see anybody on the roster right now that can slide into that spot and have half the production edmonds gave you
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You know because milano's gonna have to take on a bigger role and he just got paid too
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So that's the thing is like you wouldn't be able to afford both of them if you're gonna take one you being a bills fan
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I'll ask you this who would you rather have milano or edmonds? Yeah, definitely. I'm taking milano all day
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I'm a huge milano fan. I liked him for years. I thought he was underrated two years ago
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I'm happy you got his recognition last year, but more so what I was meaning with that statement
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How does that affect Edmonds going to another team?
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Do you still think he produces the same amount not having milano next to him?
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Yeah, no, I don't think so. I think he's gonna slot right in with the Bears right where Roquon kind of left off
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I think he's just gonna eat up all those tackles right up the middle for sure
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But also I mean we've seen a lot of great players go there and kind of decline. What about the Cleo Mack?
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You know you got Cleo Mack going there kind of going to die
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Yeah, I would wholeheartedly disagree with that statement if you were to look at Cleo Mack's numbers when he was on the Bears
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He was one of the most productive edge rushers in the league
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He didn't have the ultimate sack numbers, but his overall presence and what he did in the run game
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He was an absolute force on the Bears. It was I mean if you
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This memory will always stay in my head
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But I was at the in the the game between the Packers and the Bears at Lambeau to open up the season for the
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The NFL's hundredth season and Cleo Mack took over that game
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immediately
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As soon as Rodgers got hurt which was Cleo Mack getting him injured
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He got the ball from Hundley and took it back for a touchdown like he put the Bears up so much that
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Packers came back to win that game one of my fondest moments that I'll forever have as a sports fan
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Especially a Packers fan was at Lambeau just ripping my jersey off and running up down the stands swinging it around
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But nonetheless like Cleo Mack was an absolute force for the Bears. Yeah, you're right. I was thinking more so
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When he went to a more dominant or not maybe not a more dominant defense but thinking of the Chargers
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I'll see in the next team you want to that's where he kind of went to die
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Joey Bosa came in and definitely played a big role, but that's kind of where he went to die and I'm thinking with
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Edmonds going to a team like the Bears he thrived maybe just in the build system
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Yeah, and the one thing I would say to counteract that it's
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I definitely it's not on Matt Milano's level
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But that's where I think also signing TJ Edwards is going to help with that that voice
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Is going to help with that that void per se so it's not all on Edmonds
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Now don't get me wrong TJ Edwards is not even remotely close to the level of Matt Milano, especially in past coverage
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But you know, it's like he's gonna be the leader
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He's gonna be the heart of that defense, but it's not going to be all on him at that even inside backer position
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Uh, what was the length of contract again? Four years four years. Okay, that's
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What i'm least excited about I think because he's still 24 years old
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So now he's with the Bears for another four years
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I'm just not looking forward to it man. Like I don't know what else I can say about it other than like
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He's gonna be a young he's 6'5 250. I mean
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for me with Dalvin Cook staying at the moment anyway with the Vikings like
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Tremaine Edmonds is gonna eat him for lunch like seriously right up the middle. I don't i'm not looking forward to it
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Yeah, one thing I certainly am looking forward to is seeing him and AJ Dillon clash in the hole though
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Oh, that's gonna be a force for sure. I love AJ Dillon. I hate to say that as Vikings fan
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But gosh, he's a force that that one two punch with Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon
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That's one of the best in the league for sure. That's gonna help. Mr. Jordan. Love. Oh god
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We're gonna talk about all that later. Also, I mean Edmonds maybe i'm a little salty
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He left the bills but at the end of the day, I hope you know, this works out well for him
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I hope he keeps playing in the NFL. I think he's a great linebacker
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Another big take on this is Jordan Poyer staying with the Bills
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Was there a lot of other safety signing on other teams? Yes
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But he took kind of a pay cut. I mean 12.5 mil for two years seven mil guaranteed
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For Poyer and his level
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Seems like not enough for Poyer. He's been a freak since he started in the NFL
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And Bill's taking him on him in that high that one two punch there may not there may not be a better safety duo in the back
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I mean, they're just a dominant force
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Yeah, I would say that's a pretty good take you said two years 12.5. Yes. Yeah
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12.5 per year 12.5 total total. Oh, that's a steal for sure to me. That's a steal
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I mean because again, i'm kind of gonna bring this up again because it was similar with Tremaine Edmonds, but
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With Poyer's time with the Bills one two, three, four, five six years. Sorry. I had to count on my fingers there folks
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But in the six years he's been with the Bills he's missed
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only five games
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Again, another guy that stays on the field
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I mean if you can sign a guy for that cheap that's going to stay on the field and produce at his level
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And then like you said with Micah Hyde next to him
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I mean, that's nasty for sure. The Bills are definitely trying to return to the AFC Championship
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Yeah, his contract just is mind-boggling to me
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To put that more in perspective in terms of annual contract value. He's the 26th highest paid safety in the league
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Like so you're trying to tell me there's 25 people that are valued at a higher
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Performance or contract and Jordan Poyer?
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That's just astronomical and that truly goes to show how much people go to Buffalo and truly love playing in Buffalo
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And I would say I mean getting Poyer back being a Bills fan obviously huge everybody's thrilled
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I mean the game against the Patriots he catches that gleam game clenching interception
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He just constantly shows up for us last year Micah Hyde's out. He took a huge role
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deep and then
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We keep it going with him. I mean he even came out and said this is his home
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This is where he will play the rest of his career and as a Bills fan not be happier
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I mean, obviously he took a pay cut, but maybe he took that on purpose. We already saw
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um big players von Miller
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Stefan Diggs Josh Allen all already restructuring their contracts. I think the Bills are in it for this year
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I think they're looking to go to the Super Bowl this year. It just
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Pains me to hear that as a Packers fan that their players, you know want to stay retire a bill
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Just fucking pains me
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So Cole, I actually have a question for you. Um, since you're a Bills fan, what do you guys call yourselves Bills Mafia?
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Correct. Yeah, okay
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Uh, do you think that's a factor of Poyer? Do you think he just like loves playing in front of you guys? I mean
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I mean for me I see videos online all the time of Bills Mafia breaking tables and crap
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So like if they're that intense in the stands, too
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I mean that's got to be a factor. That's got to be fun. Being at Bills
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I've been at multiple Bills games. They're a rush even when it's minus 20
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You're still having fun with the whole group and the stadium is still packed especially the last couple seasons
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But the bigger thing too at Bills Mafia is it's not just playing in the stadium, right?
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I mean we looked at Josh Allen
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They donated all that money for the hospital to add an extra wing, right?
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Over and over again, we see this happening. They did the same thing with Tremaine Edmonds
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This is just this is why people love Bills Mafia is because they actually care for their players
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Me and Tyler joked around about this, but
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I mean if
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Fans could pay extra to keep people
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Then the Bills Mafia would be paying millions of dollars to keep people and sorry
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I misspoke earlier was Damar Hamlin I met big old number three
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Taking that big hit obviously was a huge hit and there was you know fans from both teams at the stadium
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But Damar Hamlin they blew up his charity. I think it reached what like over 12 mil
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It's just insane. It just doesn't make any sense. You know, their goal was like 100k stuff like that
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So that's why people love Bills Bills Mafia and love to stay there and they're diehard fans
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We went through a lot of tough years, you know, I mean we it was we had Tyrod Taylor
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You know just back there slinging it away for us. Hey, I love Tyrod those first couple years. Don't don't crap on him
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He was alright. He did alright for you. He took you to the playoffs, didn't he? First playoffs in 20 years?
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There you go. Don't crap on Tyrod. My Chargers coach
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What was it? Not coaching staff training staff stabbed him in the what the lung or whatever it was like two years ago
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That was ridiculous. Don't don't crap on Tyrod man. He took y'all to the playoffs. That's all I got
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Yeah, it's hard to crap on Tyrod when you had the likes of JP Lossman playing quarterback for the Bills
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It's tough too though. I mean like having Josh Allen his first couple years
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Not being able to really play that many games and then finally like showing out for us
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It's a fun time to be Bills fan right now
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But it was definitely tough for a long time and I think that's why a lot of players still stay around because it's diehard fans
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That will do anything for the team
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The next guy I want to talk about here is one of the most underrated free agent signings that I've seen so far that really
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Hasn't got as much press as I thought it would and that's Orlando Brown going to Cincinnati
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We all know the struggles of Cincinnati's offensive line over the course of the last two years
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You could argue it lost him a Super Bowl two years ago. They have made improvements
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You know, they went out and they got Alex Kappa. They got Laleh Collins
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But this is the biggest signing they have and in my opinion, it's not a pretty darn good deal
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It was a four-year deal. We're 64 million and only 31 of that is guaranteed
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So essentially it's a two-year 31 guaranteed deal or two-year 31 million dollar deal
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But the crazy thing to that about that to me, it's it's only the 10th highest contract for a left tackle
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Not even all the tackles but for a left tackle specifically in my opinion
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He he warrants a higher contract than 10th overall, but what a signing for the Bengals
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They really needed it. You know, the borough has that blindside protector now
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What are they gonna do with the right side? Are they gonna move Jonah Williams to the right side?
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He's come out and said he doesn't want to do that
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Granted I wouldn't either if there's a five to ten million dollar difference in the pay for them
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But they still also do have Laleh Collins sitting there
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So what they're gonna do there is up for discussion
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But if you look at it, the Bengals have a pretty solid offensive line
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The only real question mark is that left guard with Cordell Volson
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But outside of that, you know, you can make an argument
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They have a top seven top ten line in the league going into this year
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Yeah, and the interesting thing with Orlando Brown obviously probably underpaid
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But you know, Tyler, you're somebody who follows every free agent pickup and everything like that
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You know, I we're talking all the time about it and you didn't even know this one went through yet
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I brought this one up to you, which is kind of a shocker for me even and even with
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You know Orlando Brown, you can't say he's going to the Bengals to win his Super Bowl
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You know, he's taking a pay cut for what?
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There's no reason for him to be taking a pay cut at this stage right now
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Yeah, he's still very young
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I mean, you can you can argue that he's he's solidifying his future and still is going to be in Super Bowl contention
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Because the Bengals aren't going anywhere as long as number nine is behind center
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And you know, in his words, the prime of his career is this whole career
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Which you just I don't know
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I love Joe Burrow personally his whole swagger his demeanor
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And it's really, really good to see he finally has a solidified person to protect his blind side
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I mean, this Bengals offense is crazy as is now. We'll see what happens with T Higgins, but
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This is like I said in my opinion one of the most underrated signings in your right call that I didn't even know about it until a day afterwards
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Because it just didn't garner the press that I thought it would
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I will say you may say that he's not in it for the Super Bowls per se
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But he did tell Burrow quote I'm in this for Super Bowls
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That is what's most important to me. So I mean, we'll see he must believe that there's enough
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Left and I say left because Cincinnati has lost a couple big pieces on the field
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He has lost a couple big pieces on the other side of the ball this offseason
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But he must believe that there's enough left for the the Bengals to compete with the Chiefs for the AFC Championship
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Because right now it's those two and then obviously the Bills too. I mean, so I guess we'll just see what happens
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I think it's a great signing for the Bengals. Yeah, most definitely and even if he isn't, you know
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Going to get the Super Bowl. He got it last year. So he has one on the resume already
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So that might help with that decision as you were saying Cole like it certainly could yeah
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More so my point there too is like you almost think, you know, he's got a Super Bowl
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He's got a lot which you know most players that's the only thing they care about is getting that Super Bowl
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And like, you know, he's still the 10th
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10th paid
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You kind of think he might have went for more money, you know
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He might have went somewhere to get more money and yeah, I mean granted smell
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So you just brought that up that he's going there. He wants one another Super Bowl
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So that's I mean, that's intriguing
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If you're a Bengals fan you see him take a pay cut to come over and he still wants hungry for the Super Bowl
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Watch out for the Bengals this year. I mean, why did the Chiefs not resign?
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Could they just not afford him at that point?
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I mean if you're taking that much of a pay cut they must because I think he made 16 mil for the for the Chiefs last year
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So if you're taking that much of a pay cut, I mean they must not be able to
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Afford you. I mean you can't just lose a guy like that and he was already on a one-year deal with him
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Anyway, so I guess for him it absolutely worked out
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He not only won the Super Bowl but also secured
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I don't know if I would consider four years long term maybe for NFL. I'd say four years is a long-term contract at this point
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I mean he secured the bag playing one year and won the Super Bowl. I mean I'd be happy with that
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Yeah, it's uh
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You would think at one point of time four years wasn't a long deal in the NFL
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But you very rarely outside of the quarterback position see anything more than a four-year deal right now
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Especially with how the contracts are structured there any four-year deal is essentially a two-year deal if you look at the guarantees
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So it's like all that money is pretty much just front-loaded you get it up front
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And then we all know NFL contracts are kind of a myth right now with all these void years
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You can add on and restructure does the cap even really exist?
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That's a conversation for another time but to go back to your point about the Chiefs not being able to afford them
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One might think that however they signed it. Joanne Taylor to play
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Who's pretty much played right tackle his whole career to come in and play left tackle and gave him?
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Three and a half more million dollars per year than Orlando Brown got with Cincinnati
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So does that make sense to me? No, I would definitely take Orlando Brown over Joanne Taylor
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But the Chiefs could have afforded him because Orlando Brown's natural position is left tackle, right?
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So that's kind of sorry. I'll go for it. So so that's kind of up for debate, right?
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So when he was on the the Raven
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So he played he was projected to be a left tackle and coming out of the draft and going into the NFL
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But he was with the Ravens the Ravens already had Ronnie Stanley who was a solidified left tackle basically an all-pro
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So they kicked Brown to the right side then Stanley got hurt one year Brown kicked over to the left side and excelled
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You could argue played better than Stanley and the Ravens didn't want to pay him the left tackle salary to keep him and play right tackle
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So they traded him to the Chiefs to play and then the Chiefs played him as a left tackle
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See that's that's just crazy to me. I don't see why the Chiefs wouldn't lock this guy up long term if they have the money
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I mean, he's 26 years old
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6 8 3 40 I mean
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He obviously did a good job protecting my homes last year. I don't I don't understand
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I guess we'll just find out but so back to
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Saying how four-year could be considered a long-term contract
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I think we might as well consider that a long-term contract because the average length of a player's career in the in the NFL is
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only 3.3 years
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So, I mean if you're signing a four-year contract shoot, I guess that's a long term
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You're making money playing football for four years
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When other players don't even make it three, I guess
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Yeah, I mean it's a long term for sure four years
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Anybody you see send four years how they're saying about the cap hit and all that and how you can restructure
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But you're seeing so many guys just extending and you don't really see just get locked down for a long term like that that four-year
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Pinpoint but playing left tackle though, like it's crazy
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The price difference between like a right tackle and a left tackle isn't is insane
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and that's what like I coach at a local high school here and
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We have this freshman. That's just a stud already and he he plays left tackle
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It's like we're trying to make sure he folk like gets in the weight room. It does doing all the right stuff
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You know because it's like dude, that's your that's your money maker right there
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You know and Sandra Bullock would 100% agree
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I mean, I would love for Sandra Bullock to come in and 100% agree. That's totally cool with me
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Like you got her number. Yeah, I do actually speed dial
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All right. We're talking after this we gotta get her in to talk to this kid
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The next thing I want to talk about here is not necessarily one player in particular
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But a team as a whole and that's the Denver Broncos
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We all know they got Sean Payton in at the helm as the coach this year
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But they made some moves on really day one of free agency in that legal tampering period
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Peyton builds in the trenches
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He made that well known going out and signing Mike McGlinchey
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Ben Powers and Zach Allen on the first day of free agency
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Now McGlinchey and Powers are on the offensive line. Allen's on the defensive line
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But McGlinchey got a five-year 87 and a half million dollar deal with 52 and a half guaranteed
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Which is the sixth highest for a right tackle and Ben Powers signed a four-year 51 million dollar deal with just under 30
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Guaranteed which is the tenth highest contract for a guard. So all together the the broncos put together over just under
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140 million dollars in their offensive line day one of free agency
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That's them showing that hey, we know we had the struggles last year
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We led the league in sacks aloud
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We need to put keep brussell upright and that starts in the trenches and then you look at zach allen
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On the defensive side of the ball. He's one of the most underrated defensive linemen in the league in my opinion
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He's never really gotten his due now granted
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He hasn't had the extreme stat line to have that but I was happy to see him sign a three-year
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45 and a half million dollar deal with 32 and a half guaranteed
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Which surprising to me was the 11th highest contract for a defensive end
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I think that's right right about where it should be for his level of talent. If you look at the guys above him
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they definitely are deserving and
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Should get that but the Broncos spent some money
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They also signed some ojipy run and Alex Singleton which aren't gonna make as big of a difference as the other three there
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But p Ryan coming in is that third down back, you know, he spelled Joe Mixon very well last year
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He's had a pretty good career in Cincinnati
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So for him to come in and spell givante Williams and then with Williams injury history if he does go down
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we know p Ryan can carry the load from a running perspective and still give you that third down threat and
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Alex Singleton, you know, he just said he's a depth player on the defense
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He's gonna provide some stability at the linebacker position
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But I'm really interested to see what happens with this Bronco offense specifically as we all know
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They were last in scoring and had the 21st total offense
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So it was it was pretty abysmal to watch and I personally am a Russell Wilson fan
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So I'd like to see him do better and I think Sean Payton is the the best coach you could possibly put him with the
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have him
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Maximize his career and really he's going to show that with this this first week of free agency and p Ryan to you touched on him
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I think he was pretty underrated last year. I thought he was a great back and on top of that, I'm
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Entirely with you on the Russell Wilson. It was tragic to see him go there and just have a horrific season everybody saying he's overpaid
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He's a great quarterback. Just give him a line let him work and I really hope he has a great season this year
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So the thing about Russell Wilson that made him so good in Seattle was his escape ability. I think like his
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ability to make plays outside the pocket like similar to Aaron Rodgers
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I mean Rodgers can still do it but and I believe
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Wilson can still do it too
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And I think we're gonna see that next year, but when he got outside the pocket this year in Denver, it was horrendous dude like
35:51
Straight throwing picks or he's got guys wide open down the field instead
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He's taking a sack instead of even throwing the ball away
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I mean, so I'm a big Kirk Cousins fan and watching him in college at Michigan State
36:02
Battle Russell Wilson at Wisconsin. I always loved those battles and Russell was just nasty then continued it with Seattle
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And I think he will go back to it next year
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But one thing I can say about Denver that I would do if I were them
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I don't know if I would have that dude cushion Barry starting at center
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I think if I'm Denver right now, they don't have a first or second round
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I would absolutely try to trade up into the early second if not late first because you might be able to steal a late first
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From like the Chiefs or something, but I think you trade up and get then this might be biased
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But he's slated to go first or second round the center out of the University of Minnesota
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John Michael Schmitz and just see what happens with him. I mean he's a five maybe even a six-year starter in the Big Ten
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That's enough for me
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Yeah, the interesting thing with Denver this year is just that is the line gonna be able to give him enough time where he can
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Set in the pocket and find those throwing lanes that will open up in this Peyton offense
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But you're right as soon as he got outside the pocket last year
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he looks absolutely just flustered scared like he just didn't belong and
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Granted the offensive concepts weren't the best receivers weren't can open a lot
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But there was plenty of times when you have Jerry Judy who has the catching radius of maybe
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second to Deandre Hopkins and
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Just missing him by five ten yards like just not something you see out of Wilson
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And yeah, it's just gonna be interesting to see what happens this year. Yeah, missing him by five ten yards
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It's definitely not a just miss. I mean you're clearly missing that dude
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So and I think it's gonna be different if they can get him a clean pocket
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So here's what I'm trying to say
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I guess if it's a clean pocket and and then he has to escape out of the pocket and try to make a play himself
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Whether it's downfield or with his feet
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He's gonna have a better chance of making a play. Whereas if he's running for his life every single snap
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Of course, he's not gonna be good out of the pocket because he's already worried about having to leave
37:58
so if you do give him a good pocket and then he has to bounce it outside or something to
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Extend the play. I think he'll be much better this year. So I agree a hundred percent. They need a clean pocket right now
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Yeah, and that's that's the biggest thing is the Broncos had the most sacks allowed last year
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So the the offensive line play was just just pitiful
38:16
But at the end of the day that was also Russell where in years before he would throw the ball away
38:21
And he's just eating it and going down
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You know
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There was so many sacks that he was on the ground and they're just touching him
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That he just he he very rarely hit the receiver in stride outside the pocket
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He either went to the ground very rarely threw it away
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Missed the receiver by 10 15 yards or put it into a tight spot that got picked off
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It just wasn't the Russell Wilson. I'm accustomed to seeing and it was it was just weird. It was weird
38:44
That's funny that you say weird because that's literally what I was gonna say. I was gonna say it's just weird
38:48
Yeah, totally. He's not it's almost like he's not in the right headspace
38:53
to be out there and I mean
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every quarterback in NFL is probably a headcase in general, but
38:59
If you're good if you can control it, I mean cuz everything weighs on you, right?
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Like if you throw a pick up quarterback, you know had to have been if you get sacked and fumble
39:10
Oh, that's definitely your fault, you know, so I mean
39:13
everything there's a lot of pressure on quarterbacks and low-key kickers, but that's a whole nother conversation, but
39:19
so I think he just hopefully this offseason he was able to clear his headspace and come into the season with a clear mind and
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new head coach and
39:27
kind of a different direction
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Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. I really do
39:31
He needs to get whatever it was in Seattle that made him click needs to come back because even if you look at the second
39:37
Half of his last year in Seattle now that year you can throw an asterisk next to it next to it because he did
39:43
Have the thumb injury so he didn't have the throwing prowess that he couldn't he was limited
39:48
But you saw the same thing last year as you did that second half of the year was Seattle and that was with no injury
39:54
last year, he also
39:56
But when he was at his best he also had a ridiculous defense in Seattle, too and there's something to be said about that
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Of course like how are you not gonna go out on the field when it's you know time for the offense to come out with?
40:07
Just full of confidence knowing whatever you do
40:09
Yeah, you're probably fine on the on the defensive drive the next drive. So I mean, how do you just I mean, yeah
40:16
We'll see and to I mean, I think the Broncos have a very underrated defense
40:20
So I think their defense definitely excels
40:22
So it that's what's kind of tough because I mean Seattle you could definitely put some of it on the defense
40:27
And obviously you're not doing that but you know, also the Broncos had that defense for him
40:31
He needs to find the way to get the ball to receivers, right Patrick certain
40:36
2023 defensive player of the year AFC
40:39
That's not a stretch by any way shape or form
40:41
I just don't really see a cornerback winning it with these defensive edge linemen that we have that just to sack numbers
40:47
They're putting up sauce Gardner, but yeah, he got rookie of the year. He didn't get defense
40:50
Oh, you're right. You're right. Yeah, but the other thing with that Seattle team as well is every year
40:56
He was in Seattle besides maybe the last two or three even the last two or three. They had a balanced run game, right?
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So they had Marshawn Lynch he could
41:04
Obviously handle the rock and even last year with the Broncos now granted
41:08
Javante Williams got hurt and he is a productive back when he's in there, but it was just a staple of backs
41:13
Yeah, Latavious Murray Melvin Gordon Javante Williams
41:16
They had some I think his name was like Adler or something that ended up playing running back for him
41:21
So it's just it's they need to have more of that balance attack because if you look at the numbers
41:26
This surprised the crap out of me, but they were the 18th best passing team in the league last year 21st rushing
41:33
They just couldn't score. So that was their biggest issue
41:35
I mean for there to be a tracker of how many bathrooms Russell Wilson has in his house for his touchdowns on the year is
41:41
Absolutely just sterically funny, but at the end of the day, they just couldn't put the ball in the end zone
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Yeah, I mean, I think all of us can agree
41:48
We wish Russell the best this next year and we hopefully he can figure it out
41:52
And hopefully that team can figure it out cuz they have a bright future
41:54
I mean you you brought up Gardner you brought up certain
41:58
I mean another big talk we have to do is Ramsey and Waller obviously Ramsey being that other corner going to Miami
42:05
That's huge. That is huge for him to head up over there. And I don't know that like how much better does this make this defense?
42:12
How much better does do you think an addition like Jalen Ramsey makes this team? I think it's huge
42:17
I mean the thing about Ramsey is I think he's
42:21
Maybe not undoubtedly at this point the best cornerback in the league
42:25
I think that's up for debate at this point
42:27
But what all he does outside of just the cornerback position to affect the game on the defense side of the ball
42:32
We touched on his tackles earlier. He pops into the slot
42:35
He'll even play at the line of scrimmage covering up a tight end just what his Swiss Army knife
42:40
Mentality brings to that defense the Dolphins don't really have you know, they got rid of Byron Jones
42:45
So if you want to keep Ramsey at corner you have Ramsey and Xavier and Howard
42:49
Which is in my opinion the best one to in the league and really it's not close to be quite honest with you in my opinion
42:55
But the ability to move around the field and they have a young
42:59
Talented playmaker in Javan Holland at that safety spot where he's just only gonna learn from Ramsey
43:04
Where I think his career is gonna take the next step now, too
43:07
So I think it's a huge huge addition and Ramsey. I mean that's it's exciting
43:12
But also like if you're a Dolphins fan, it's even more exciting. You hate playing against that guy
43:17
He is just infuriating to play against having me on your team all the trash talk how aggressive he is
43:23
That's fun to be a Dolphins fan and have that addition and not only that just his overall leadership. He's a vocal leader
43:30
He puts the team on the back. He doesn't make excuses
43:32
You know, he's just he's an all-around team guy and just his overall just presence as long as it doesn't go like it did in
43:39
Jacksonville, but if he keeps that presence in that that mentality that he had in LA
43:44
I think he's just gonna excel back down in southern, Florida
43:47
So the other thing about the Jalen Ramsey deals like the details of the trade is kind of weird. So
43:52
LA only got a third round pick and some tight end named Hunter long
43:56
So if we look at that trade for Jalen Ramsey remind remind you
44:01
Compared to like Stefan Gilmore
44:03
I think that was just a fifth round pick right and Darius Slay was about to be released and now obviously we know he
44:09
Resigned a deal. What's the better play there if you're comparing those plays the Stefan Gilmore trade?
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Jalen Ramsey or
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Darius Slay staying with the Eagles. So Mike, I guess my question is who won did the Rams win this trade by what they got back
44:24
for Jalen Ramsey
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Did the Colts get enough for Stefan Gilmore or?
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Or
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Did um
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What was the other one? I was just mentioning slay slay or did the Eagles win being able to keep slay there?
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Yeah, I mean it in my opinion. It's the difference in talent between the three cornerbacks. We're speaking of right now
44:46
Ramsey's far and away the best one. He's still in the prime of his career. They got it was only a third rounder now
44:51
I want to know if the details have come out of if
44:54
LA has to keep any of that salary for this year because if it was just for a third rounder in some no-name tight end
44:59
Like that's who wouldn't take that deal, but I think they would what I wanted to kind of point on here is
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Jalen Ramsey going to the Rams kind of started the whole less need fuck them picks
45:12
Stigma and now look what he's doing. There's talks of Matt Stafford being traded away
45:17
Ramsey just got traded away for just a measly third rounder
45:21
So I think he's still kind of keeping that idea of fucked them picks because he only got a third rounder for you know
45:27
undoubtedly no questions asked a top five quarterback in the NFL and
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Yeah, in my opinion, it's it's it's the Dolphins all day with any of those three moves
45:36
And yeah, especially the Dolphins a hundred percent and as far as fitting a scheme and actually making the team a much bigger
45:45
Contender for the Super Bowl. It's the Dolphins all day there and on top of like on top of these crazy picks, right?
45:50
We're talking crazy picks. We're talking third rounders fifth rounders for great players
45:55
We got to bring up the last guy here is Darren Waller
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We already touched on a little bit earlier
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But just went for a third round pick to the Giants and I don't know if you guys saw but him and Daniel Jones
46:06
Dabbing up when they first met this is wild
46:09
These two hopefully they get a long better than they did the first time around because these two look like fifth graders
46:16
I've not seen that as a pretty good it you gotta give it a little gotta give it a watch if you haven't okay
46:20
It'll crack you up. It's the most like awkward interaction
46:24
Maybe outside of the Cardinals coach when he met Rondell Moore just going me room
46:30
That was just hysterical, but Daniel Jones is probably the whitest person you could possibly have in the history of the world
46:37
Then just that interaction was just hilarious
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Man, I mean his name is Daniel
46:42
Yeah, we look we look at it like this too. I mean we have Daniel Jones
46:48
Who had a big uplift of a season last year?
46:51
I think he put just performed a ton better last year than his previous year and
46:55
Now you got Darren Waller at tight end after just losing Evan Ingram
47:00
I think this is a huge upgrade not only for Daniel Jones as a quarterback, but also for this offense
47:06
100% and arguably it's an upgrade for Darren Waller
47:09
I mean he gets a chance to join a playoff team because again it hurts my soul that they beat the Vikings, but
47:17
That was a different Giants team. I think Saquon coming back on that franchise tag. He's motivated
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I think Daniel Jones on a fresh deal. He's motivated bringing Darren Waller. You give him a give him a target now
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I think that's interesting
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One small thing I wanted to bring up with Darren Waller not to bring like drama into it, right?
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But apparently like right before the trade apparently Josh McDaniel's head coach
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the Raiders and Darren Waller were not getting along because apparently
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McDaniel's like allegedly like put something out there about Darren Waller getting married to his WNBA
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Now wife, but yeah, so that that speculation was at the at the draft the combine
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McDaniel said that and they didn't want to go public with it
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Right neither one of them wanted it to be public and McDaniel's came out and said that but did you see Kelsey Plumb's?
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Response on Twitter to McDaniel's no, it was funny
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so they tweeted like it was like oh story of the day whatever it was like
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The reason Waller went to the the Giants had something to do with this and then Kelsey Plumb responded
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It was some of the lines of like this was all because he wasn't invited
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That's crazy wedding. I mean she was just throwing a jab
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It was all and like she was joking about it, but it was just funny that that's how she responded
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It was like she just took a jab at an NFL head coach
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And it's funny because McDaniel's was at Max Crosby's wedding allegedly
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So that's why it was kind of a big deal like oh, come on like blah blah blah
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So I think it just got blown out of proportion, but then like a day later
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Kind of after that service then Darren Waller got traded might not have been a day
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But it was quickly not not that long after that and he came out quote. It caught me off guard
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That's wild. I don't think it caught you off guard like you kind of figured you were probably leaving Vegas
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however, like
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He married a WNBA player that plays for Vegas
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So you kind of were like planning on rooting your life there probably re-signing, you know, whatever and now you're traded to the Giants, but
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One one more thing where what do you got? Oh, okay
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Oh one more thing I was gonna say is the Giants actually reworked Darren Waller's contracts today this morning
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So they create the Giants created seven point four mil in cap space just this morning
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So that's pretty freaking cool to be traded there and all of a sudden you're already down to make more space. I mean
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To me that's somebody that's trying to win
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Yeah, and everything you just kind of said there about him wanting to stay in Vegas
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Just exemplifies who Darren Waller is and what the the change in his life that he made since he's been with Raiders
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I've been a huge Darren Waller fan since like Madden three or four years ago when he was on the Ravens
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And he had like a 93 speed and there was one play that was broken in the game
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You could just score every time if you had a fast-eyed end
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But I've kind of followed his story since then and he's been on bussing with the boys a couple times and just talked about
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His sobriety and how we found you know his headspace back right again
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Gave up the drugs and alcohol and then completely turned his life around and that's when he started being productive in the NFL
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So I'm forever a Darren Waller fan. I mean he even has some pretty good. He's a music producer as well
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So he's a rapper he makes music and that's halfway decent as well wouldn't say it's as good as his football career
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He's definitely in the right profession
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But at the end of the day I mean to think that he got traded for a third-round pick too
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You know it was it's still it's a bag of balls for these high-profile players
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Yeah, this is a top three tight end arguably definitely when healthy yeah when that's just it when healthy the dudes got to stay on
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the field though, but that's funny that you mentioned the third round like
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Why are trades just not valued as high right now?
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You know like it just seems weird that we're getting like you said high-profile players
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And it feels like teams aren't giving up much unless a lot of these teams are keeping some of the salary
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Maybe that's part of it, but I don't know you guys both said healthy
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I mean we also have Saquon Barkley who has had his injury written. You know he's been injured all the time
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I mean, this is the bad news bears. This is the little Giants
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You know if they can figure it out they could be a real contender, but if not it's just another season for the Giants
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That's the thing it's the Giants this year. They've made some moves to add to this offensive talent
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They obviously resigned Daniel Jones franchise tagged Saquon
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They resigned Darius Slayton and Sterling Shepherd, and they brought in Paris Campbell
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You know they're making moves
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They're trying to show that they're they're trying to build this team around Daniel Jones
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And what better to bring in undoubtedly a top five tight end talent when healthy than Darren Waller
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And Brian Dayball is the most underrated coach
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I think he was so underrated at Buffalo as an offensive coordinator and to be honest
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I'm a Bills fan the only New York team
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But wherever Brian Dayball goes I will follow him
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I think that guy is amazing, and I love what he did for the Giants this year in that offense
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I was just gonna say I think signing resigning Daniel Jones was huge
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I mean why not take a chance on the guy? I mean he's brought your franchise back into the playoffs
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Yes, they were only at nine wins, but you still won your first playoff game
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So I I kind of like them taking that chance on Daniel Jones cuz I was kind of curious all offseason like are they gonna sign them?
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Kind of like the same with the Seahawks and Geno Smith like I was curious
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It was like are they gonna sign him or not and they decided to take a chance on him on a four-year deal
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And I think it's totally worth it. You might as well find out what he's got
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Yeah, I would wholeheartedly agree. I mean he's a he's a he's a top six pick
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So you have you've invested very high draft capital in the guy
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He hasn't really had a solid foundation behind him in the front office or coaching staff since he's been there
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He has one year under Brian Dayball, and he gets a 40 million dollar deal
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Like it's that it's just in my opinion
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He just needed the structure around him and he needed a coach that was truly bought into him
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And can find ways to maximize his potential. We always knew we had the running prowess
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No, he's not Lamar by any means
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But he has the running prowess and Dayball was able to come in and schematically just find avenues and ways that he can get the ball downfield a little bit
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And then still have that that read option type ability and then with Saquon doing what Saquon did this year that obviously helped kind of lighten the load
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But yeah, it's it's I'm a huge Brian Dayball fan as a whole
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But I think this is gonna be a huge move for the Giants
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Does Daniel Jones kind of feel a little bit like Eli Manning to you like same type of like how he carries himself type of deal
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And then even his play on the field or am I just like seeing blue with the Giants and like off base there?
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I think you got to make some sort of comparison
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I mean Eli, you know, he had they have each other's numbers when he made it to playoffs
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He was taking advice from Eli. He definitely has a mentorship play style
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I would argue it's it's different but I mean as far as like the headspace the way they approach the field they approach the game
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They read the game. I mean, it's like every quarterback, you know, when you have great quarterbacks followed Grapplo and Tom Brady, right?
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You're gonna keep a lot of that same mental. So I think in that case, yes. Yeah, I would agree with you there
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I mean different play styles
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I would say completely just because Daniel Jones is like Eli Manning never had a running prowess. Hey, whoa, whoa
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Eli had his moments though. He would he would take off sometimes
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I'm not saying he's you know speedster by any means but the difference there though
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Eli Manning has never once had a defense put a spy on him
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Fair enough. Yeah. No, I mean
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That actually cracks me up. Yeah, if a defense ever put a spy on Eli Manning that absolutely cracked me up
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Yeah, I mean a spy on Eli Manning just means Eli's going deep, right? I mean Eli's going deep. He's no Lamar Jackson
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But neither is Daniel Jones by me. Yeah, definitely different, but he'll catch you off guard. He'll take off and run and
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Ten twenty yards. I mean, he's a he'll at least get you a first down. You're not planning on it. He's Tom Brady, right?
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He's smart, you know understands football. He'll see when there's a huge hole opens up
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He'll run up and take those extra yards and not the same quarterbacks Tom Brady obviously, but like the whole running thing
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I mean if you're talking about running styles him and Tom Brady very similar in this fact that like oh
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No, where else to go might as well run up and get three yards. Are you meaning Daniel Jones or Eli right now?
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He's meaning Tom Brady. I mean Eli and Tom Brady as well. Okay. Okay
55:26
I thought you were comparing Daniel Jones and Tom Brady's running right now and I'm like nooooo
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Okay, good. Good. Okay, sweet. Yeah. Yeah, same page now. All I was saying there was
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Eli Manning Tom Brady the way they run is the same way. Yes, Eli may break off for 20
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So will Tom Brady but guess what? It's going two miles an hour and it's where there's nobody within 35 yards
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For sure. No, I got what you're saying. So I mean as far as it all goes definitely
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Could be a huge year for the Giants this year. Hopefully they shape up to something. I mean they have the coach they have the offense now
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They've had the defense you could argue. So we'll see what they do. They definitely have the defense. They were a top
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10 you could argue top five defense last year. Wing Martindale is just really really good at what he does
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All right fellas enough about the free agency and offseason news so far
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Let's talk a little bit about the best remaining free agents
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We're gonna take some time here and just pick out one player
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Maybe two players or a position group that we want our personal home favorite teams here to target
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I'm gonna kick this segment off and we all know the Packers are in desperate need of some receiving threats
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We have a really good tight end still on the market in Dalton Schultz
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And then a kind of a wide array of receivers available with the biggest one being OBJ, but let's be honest
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He's not coming to Green Bay, but I think someone like Dalton Schultz would be a good fit
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We don't have a solidified tight end on our team with Robert Tunian signing with the Bears
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I just think Dalton Schultz would give us some stability at the position bring some veteran leadership
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into our receiving room and give Jordan Love that target on third down in that seam where he can just find that big target across the middle
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So he doesn't have to look for those young weapons on the outside, but I would I would love a Dalton Schultz signing
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Even something a little bit less noticeable and Austin Hooper would come in and bring that veteran leadership and still give us that seam
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That third down target. He's just not gonna stretch the field as much as someone like Dalton Schultz
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Me myself being a Bills fan right now. It's kind of over the place
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Obviously, we lost Edmonds, but I think the biggest thing we haven't signed back Singletary yet
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A huge addition would be somebody like Zeke. Now Zeke is great. I don't think he's the biggest addition we can make
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Obviously, I think we can make some moves and go after like a Dalton Cook, but we'll see what happens
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I would be more than happy still with Zeke
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Yeah, so first off, Dalton's not going anywhere first off as far as I know right and I would love to have him here
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I love him and Madison being a one-two punch kind of similar to Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon in Green Bay
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And as far as Zeke goes, I think that would be an amazing signing for the Buffalo Bills
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He is second in red zone rushing touchdowns behind only Jamal Williams who had 14, Zeke had 12
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If you include receiving touchdowns for running backs and then receivers and then Travis Kelsey because no other tight end was close
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Zeke still comes out to be third overall in red zone touchdowns with only Eckler passing him up because Eckler had like five receiving touchdowns or something like that
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So I think that would be a good move for the Bills
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As far as my Vikings go, I'd love for them to sign OBJ. He would pair well with JJ, KJ, TJ, put OBJ in there
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I think that would go well. I don't see it happening, but I'd be cool with it
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I would love the Vikings to sign Gardner Johnson. Again, I don't think we have any room right now to make a move like that
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But Cameron Bynum is not it. Harrison Smith is getting older. Gardner Johnson is young. Lock him up. Again, probably not going to happen
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I see him going to Cincy or the Dolphins and the Dolphins are going all in
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I mean they're taking full advantage of Tua's rookie contract. You see them trade for Jalen Ramsey
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I do see Gardner Johnson signing there next week or sometime in the near future
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And then him teaming up with Jalen, Xavier Howard, Javon Holland
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I mean, God, I mean, watch out for the Dolphins for sure, but as far as my Vikings go
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Don't look for them to make any more moves as far as adding key names
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Well as a Packers fan smelty, I hope you don't get any of the guys you just noticed
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Your team is right where it needs to be for the Packers to take that NFC North crown
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That's why the Packers will finish last in the NFC North next season
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Doubt that, but that's for a conversation for another day
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But I had an absolute pleasure today, boys
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One thing to note is we are recording this episode on St. Patrick's Day
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It won't be released until next week, so if any of these players do get signed
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Obviously just take that with a grain of salt and we do apologize, we can't predict the future
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But I had an absolute pleasure today, boys, can't thank you guys enough for joining me
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And can't thank you all enough for listening to us here at home
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