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- 0:08Morning. We're back folks. Ten thirty four. John Lidkey here on AM
- 0:11eight hundred clw Are you claustrophobic? I get claustrophobic a little bit. The
- 0:18idea of being trapped in a small space without being able to get out,
- 0:22well, that's the whole point of being trapped disposed. Not something I like
- 0:26to think about too much. But right now, two NASA astronauts have no
- 0:30set date to return to Earth and are stuck waiting aboard the International Space Station
- 0:36due to several mechanical issue with Boeing's Starliner spacecraft. We're talking right now about
- 0:42the ISS, the International Space Station, because there's quite frankly a lot going
- 0:46on with it. In One person who always has his eyes up to the
- 0:50skies is Dan Sacks of the Canada Space Mining Corp. Hey Dan, how
- 0:55you doing very good? How about yourself? John? Doing really well?
- 1:00Thanks for joining me here, Probably better than these astronauts that are stuck up
- 1:03in the ISS. Is this like a concerning thing that they're up there?
- 1:08You know, I don't know that it's a concerning thing that they're up there.
- 1:11It's a concerning thing that Boeing wasn't able to iron out all all the
- 1:17kinks with with the star Liner, and and and some of the parts of
- 1:23that. Obviously, that's you know, a very long project ongoing where the
- 1:30philosophy was to take the time to take an approach which would be slow but
- 1:38steady, and ensure that they delivered a capability for NASA with something that was
- 1:46going to work right. And obviously there are a number of challenges these days
- 1:53with the way Boeing runs those programs. That's probably a long conversation, but
- 2:00but you know, you know, in terms of the astronauts being stuck up
- 2:04there, I mean, there's there's tons of opportunities to ensure that that's not
- 2:09necessarily a problem for them. I think they still have a reasonable window to
- 2:15get them out of there. There's opportunities for you know, either resupplying the
- 2:23spacecraft from from another mission, to send up a resupply, to send a
- 2:30rescue shuttle to bring them back. You know that those options are out there,
- 2:35so you know, this is not kind of catastrophic. I think that
- 2:38the greater question is, like, you know, after the billions of dollars
- 2:43that have been poured into two star Liner, I guess to end up at
- 2:46this point on its demonstration flight where you have a number of problems with the
- 2:53system, are are more indicative of you know, where does that leave this
- 2:59text? Right? You know? And and how how do we ensure that
- 3:04the next time, uh, this goes up it doesn't happen. And and
- 3:07if there's other other flights that are that are reliant on this technology, what
- 3:15is that going to do to them? And they're scheduling in terms of delays,
- 3:20additional costs, right, how long is it gonna take them before they
- 3:24can fly this thing again reliably and and prove that they've ironed out all those
- 3:30kinks? And you know, a lot of this comes down to like these
- 3:34differing philosophies of what are called kind of old space and new space right where
- 3:39you have Elon Musk approach, which gets uh, you know, heavily criticized
- 3:46for blowing up rocket after rocket, but the reason they blow up after rock,
- 3:51rocket after rocket is to learn from those mistakes quickly, to make changes
- 3:57quickly, to get that data and then to you improving upon a product.
- 4:00And you know, the results has been more rapid innovation at a lower cost.
- 4:08The old approach to let's design something once that never fails, seems to
- 4:13take a lot longer and cost a lot more money. And I think that's
- 4:17what you're seeing here. Well, I suppose it's better to have it happen
- 4:20while they can still get resupply and they're in orbit, rather than you know,
- 4:27deep space exploration getting trapped into a capsule that you can't leave. That'd
- 4:30be a problem. Oh for sure. Well, I want to assure you.
- 4:32I want to keep talking about the ISS here. We just found out
- 4:36about yesterday a Brampton company, MDA Space, has just been awarded a one
- 4:42billion dollar contract by the Canadian Space Agency to develop and deliver Canada ARM three,
- 4:48the robotic manipulator ARM is now going to be a component of the Gateway
- 4:53Space Station that will serve as a waste station for future missions. Obviously,
- 4:57the Canada ARM is a big deal of the ISS. Tell us a little
- 5:00bit about what the Gateway space Station is going to be, because as I
- 5:02understand it, the ISS's days are numbered. Yeah, the ISS's days are
- 5:10numbered, and I'm not sure that has to do with Gateway. Gateway is
- 5:15going to be a state space station that operates in lunar orbit. There's two
- 5:19things going on here. You have the iss kind of retiring, and it's
- 5:24reached the end of its what's called useful life. I mean it is.
- 5:29Having spoken to astronauts, it is creaky, it has problems, and it's
- 5:33been up there for a while, right, and so you're either going to
- 5:36have to completely rehab this thing, which is probably cost prohibitive, or deorbited
- 5:46or there have been some plans to reutilize it proposed by some parties. They
- 5:55have been rejected wholeheartedly by NASA and the international community, who has decided the
- 6:01better plan is to diorbit it, to let it burn up in the atmosphere,
- 6:08as well as bring parts of it back down to Earth. And so
- 6:13SpaceX want a contract to do that a couple of days ago, or I
- 6:17think yet two days ago. And so that's kind of the plan to retire
- 6:23the space Station twenty thirty and effectively dispose of it, and then gateways being
- 6:30built to orbit the Moon as an outpost there where astronauts can live up there
- 6:41while studying things down on the Moon and go back and forth to the Moon.
- 6:44It can act as a jumping off point to the Moon as well as
- 6:47deep spaces, and can be a refueling point for spacecraft to utilize space resources
- 6:56that have been mined like water and oxygen, hydrogen gin on the Moon to
- 7:00make rocket fuel, and then to refuel spacecraft at Gateway so they can go
- 7:05off to places like Mars with significantly less mass. And so that's kind of
- 7:12what Gateway will function that it'll be fairly autonomous, and Canada ARM three plays
- 7:16a fairly crucial role in that in that autonomy. Canada ARM two has some
- 7:25levels of AI and autonomy, but but canad ARM three will be able to
- 7:30be operated effectively autonomously. And so this is a big deal for Canada.
- 7:35You know what that means in in you know, taking things back to low
- 7:41Earth orbit. You know, it's uncertain. There's a number of companies buying
- 7:45to create the first space commercial space stations in low Earth orbit. You know,
- 7:53you've got three contracts that were given out by NASA, and I think
- 7:57there are upwards of about a six or seven parties buying to build future space
- 8:03stations in lower orbit. They all claim that they're going to be the first
- 8:07to do it. We'll see who is exciting to watch. It's you know,
- 8:11a different kind of space race, a commercial one, and and you've
- 8:15got you know, not all these parties are Americans, so and a lot
- 8:18of it involves in our national collaboration and and everything else. So we'll see.
- 8:24You know, it's it's an exciting time to be alive, as long
- 8:31as you're not watching US presidential debate. But you know, it's an exciting
- 8:35time to be alive. But uh, yeah, you could have a lot
- 8:39of and certainly we'll have a lot of commercial activity going on in lower orbit.
- 8:45And you know both you know, research labs, scientists, private astronauts
- 8:50from from multiple nations, industrial parks, manufacturing goods. You know, this
- 8:56is kind of what space looks like in lower orbit ten or fifteen years from
- 9:03now. And and that's a really exciting proposition. You know, now you've
- 9:09got in the tens of people living in space at the moment. You've got
- 9:16you know, between the ISS and then the Chinese have their own space station
- 9:20right now. They were kicked out of the ISS. But but and and
- 9:26what their own pathway. But you know, you could have easily ten times
- 9:30that figure. You know, you could have one hundred hundred, one hundred
- 9:35and fifty people in orbit, you know, in the next ten years,
- 9:39and and and that's really exciting, right, that's that's a bit of a
- 9:41game changer.